Here's EVERYTHING That Changed In The Latest Peacemaker Patch
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Ninjakilla praising the sky he doesn’t have to play Peacemaker anymore.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hope he goes back to Lui Kang.
Now he'll have to play Johnny
Nah, the Johnny nerf makes him almost even with Liu now @mrstudent9125
Ninjakilla should play ermac or some other high execution char i wanna see him in full flow
Chill beats to relax / discuss patch notes to
What song is that playing
@@Apollo3p Street FIghter EX2 Plus, Credits Theme
@@PNDKM hey thanks. You know I recognize most of the other ex+alpha music in the vid but not the credit theme
The way you say “it *is* a buff” for sub zero sounds so defeated 😭 felt
The sub zero one is nice. He gets a little more damage on coolest looking string
Nice changes to LM, she needed a gapless safe string, which goes nice with her current output dmg.
I need Johnny Cage from #1 to bottom tier Injustice Scorpion style
You'd consistently lose to him even then 😂😎
Dude is just admitting he sucks at the game lmao
Bro is constantly getting caged outta his mind 😂
He's such a cool character though. I need other characters brought up to him. He's what the others should be. His hype meter is so cool. I'm glad they made his defense weaker in this patch. Johnny's offense is really good, so he didn't need such powerful defensive tools. Buffs are what they should look toward. Rain is a prime example of what they should be doing. Peacemaker being trashed...good riddance. He's such a boring character to watch. Johnny at least isn't boring(except when every game in a tourney features him...)
@@friendboy10 Peacemaker has pretty cool looking stuff. Watch Max Dood's vid on him.
Im sorry I have to do it. The biggest nerf they gave peacemaker is making him visible to us.
Hurl your insults at me
I actually have a lot of love for this game i just cant keep playing against the same 10 characters online for an entire year every season, my man havik needs help
Some people only play 1, maybe 2
I play only one lol
@@frstack3006 (shouldve specified i meant facing the 10 same characters online)
The inconsistent combo scaling on subs 21 for airborne or grounded opponents leads me to believe that his 21 used to restand in development
But it took them THIS long to change?
@@edd4131 yes. Yes it did, sounds like nrs to me. They probably didn’t notice it until recently
I think at minimum for a Havik buff should make one of his plus frames actually jail or make his D4 jail into anything but D4
Or just make his 22 not whiff constantly is already a W
Facts. he has a lot of plus frames but no reliable button to enforce it. A great change would be making his b224 string not have a gap.
@@Skidmarks117 I used to think that but the point of B22 is to reinforce the mixup of throw and low, if you already have conditioned them to block one or the other that is good, on the same side if they are conditioned to armor just do raw 22 since it's safe, it adds an extra mind game that is really the only that Havik has in his kit since none of his plus frames are threatening
Don't get me wrong yes this would be AWESOME, but I don't think this change really does as much as you think it would
@@vnquoctru Tbh I straight up do no use 22 unless they are in the corner or in corner combos (excluding Movado single launch combos that leave opponent point blank) the second hit is the only problem imo just make the hit region a little more forgiving
Tbh I always thought the problem with Peacemaker was the PUSHBACK of Eagley not Torpedo lmao..literally forward 4,1,2 into Eagley has been hard to punish forever
yea because eagly isnt punishable😭
nvm its -15 not -5
@@thomas-ii9tz exactly it should be punishable with those numbers but he jumps so far back you can barely with shadow kick reversal (fastest reversal in game) its inconsistent, sometimes it can sometimes it cant
They just made it -15 eagly prepatch was only -4, so not punishable
It should be safe tbh they nerfed him too hard like all his strings are straight as besides 412 and they are trying to make it unsafe now nerf torpedo and anti gravity like they pretty much killed him his trash now
Seeing subzero wearing crimson / scarlet / maroon feels so jarring...
I was expecting any buffs for Scorpion. Disappointed with the newest update.
Peacemaker was playing Injustice fr
buff ideas, spread the word
Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. buff the amp hellfire move by removing the damage over time and making it function like how it does in mkx allowing him to combo after hitting it. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up
Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1 or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze.
Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion
Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar
Raiden: change raiden's b2 back to the mkx launcher but make it as slow as sub'z b2. give him back his vicinity blast move back with the same properties as mkx. Give him back his mkx amp lightning projectile back for combo extentions but have his regular fully charged move have the same proportys as the amp. he also needs to be buffed by making his amp electrocute special launch no matter how many bars he uses
liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe 2 or 3 more new attack strings to make up for his pressure and to make it less braindead. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the one we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
kung lao: nerf tf out of his wake up special by making it unsafe af on block. give him back his mkx or 9 spin back but have it have work the same as mk11 so he can use it more than two times in a combo. swap his dive kick now for a mix between his mkx or 9 dive kick. he needs his mkx tp, and his low hat back, but nerf his mix up buttion's he has now by making the overhead follow up slightly slower. give him his mk11 21212 attack string and his mkx 44 launcher attack string back. and also he needs his hat spin.
Nitara: buff her by making her command dash like homelander so for instance all of her normal attack strings that leaves her in the air cost no bar anymore to command dash and it cost no bar when she is in the air command dashing for combos but the next one after that does. and also make fer overhead that leaver her in the air slightly faster. she should also be able plus after hitting her bf2 special allowing her to cameo combo after it. lastly give her back her legacy projectile move back.
Reiko: give him his invasion boss special move, the one is like jades dead butterfly move from mk11 but it launches and he uses his spear(this is already in the game files btw). give this guy at least 1 more special move that involes his knife that's on his person but he never uses for some reason. he needs like 5 new normal attack stings involving his knife and his spear, maybe 2 of them be launchers.
smoke: give him his smoke cloud move back from mk9, along having it hit low but have the same start up as the one he got now. make his command dash special cancelable anywhere instead of just near yr opponent. also another command dash sending him backwards but the max distance is half screen but he can cancel it at any time during that animation too. and lastly make it easyer to do ground combos after his amp db 4 special.
Reptile: give him his acid pool amp special move back but make the amp the special and make the amp of that last longer along with his claw swipe move from mk x. give him 3 to 4 attack stings and have at least one be a launcher and at least 2 be for mixup followups. and lastly allow him to move after doing his forceball just a tad bit more almost like how mkx was but just not as broken
Li mei: 4 or 5 new attack strings, 2 a launchers 1 plus frame one, the rest strings into lows. she needs a new special that let's you command detonate her lantern with one fast motion, fast enuf to do it mid combo. change her base air overhead special hit reaction on airborne opponents, instead of a knockdown it leaves li mei grounded and the opponent in the air allowing for combos like how she could in 3d mk games. also give her back her overhead command special and the amp allow for ground combos. and lastly allow her to be able to combo with one amp projectile grounded and in the air.
y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
We are free of the peacemaker mirrors lets goooo
As an okay Kitana player, I hardly use Square Wave. I probably should use it more often. Also, Mavado buff in any capacity makes me a happy camper.
i will say using her 11 string with db2 amp with kitana to punish things is always a good and easy combo with decent damage
Dont care about the torpedo too much only because you can still utilize it in between stuns or staggers either from command grabs or just using the gun shots. My biggest gripe is probably the forcefield that is slower now. Helps against fellow zoners when fighting so that move just became irrelevant if you can use it in time😂
Anti gravity is still pretty good though thankfully they didnt get too liberal with the subtraction of damage on that.
Havik player here, yeah it’s cool that it’s safe now for sure. but it can still be punished since there’s a gap within it. not the buffs i was hoping for, out of all characters havik should of had the most tweaks on this list. cause ppl are still able to low poke our B22 mid which makes no sense cause ain’t a mid supposed to counter a low? and high ??
Agree. B22 reflects the issue with Havik. His main key tool is slow (stuffable), has a huge gap for either options and without Mavado, you are always at a disadvantage since the opponent gets more from making the right guess (meanwhile Peacemaker gets a full combo from his command grab). It should get the 1 frame buff and it should crushes low pokes since he literally jumps up. Idk who thought of buffing s4, it is prob one of the most useless normals in this game.
They should make his command grab an actual special move like what they did to Cryomancer Subzero in MKX. Even then he'd be mid tier at best.
@@vnquoctru exactly thank you !!! his command grab definitely should of been a special move. havik should be a brawler/grappler
The Reptile buffs are excellent, now both his Zoning (mid-range and long-range) and mixups have become much better. Overall amazing patch!
I think making the down back eagly punishable is kinda bad. Without it peacemaker doesn't have many options on the block string side of things, and his normals are not the best either
Waaaaaaaaaaa
Yeah they definitely over-nerfed him, maybe still viable tho
As a peacemaker main I 100% agree the only thing I can really do to try and keep my block pressure is ex force field, and against certain characters that doesn't even work
ALL THEY DID WAS NERF HIS PARRY?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
The game really is catered to 30 players and everyone else has to deal with it
So basically people don’t show up on line and spam everything out of control about peacemaker … AKA a lot more losses for people online lmao
That kinda defeats the purpose of mortal kombat.
IMHO Superman, Starfire, Deadshot and Pacemaker were staples of how fighting games should handle ranged characters.
@@kingol4801 I don’t have a prob with zoners, I just don’t like how some are handled. NRS tends to give zoners way too many tools and make them insanely powerful without giving the defensive tools a to counter them they should. Esp Peacemaket and Deadshot. Both have good range game which is perfectly fine, but both also have really good pressure tools up close that are completely safe. Range players should not be able to also bully you with pressure and be safe doing it, that’s just crazy lmao. Like the whole thing about zoners is you have to either halve a teleport or patiently work your way in which even though it’s annoying is part of playing against a zoner. But if I work my way in they should never then be able to bully me with safe pressure that goes good damage on top of that lol.
Great video! Thanks!
Khameleon is so dumb. Unlike the main fighters, no other kameo is on khameleon’s level. She literally has it all and her moves only cost half a bar with ridiculously fast cool down. She is the most brainless thing since pre nerfed cyrax. Like 95% of players I go against online use khameleon, she is so overused. She should have goro cooldown or full bar moves, preferably both. She gets double the amount of usage per round compared to other kameos and all her moves are actually good.
Some moves in the right direction. Still waiting for the Takeda patch.
Peacemaker and Johnny both deserved these nerfs and im glad they finally understood the real issues with both of them. People who say that characters should be just as broken as those 2 were do not understand how game balance works and should be disregarded lol, characters being just as broken doesn't make a game balanced it just makes it boring because it would STILL devolve into whose the best of the broken characters just like MK9 was
Funny you say that since MK9 is still fondly remembered. Making everyone broken is fun.
I throughly enjoyed mk9
Its fondly remembered because it was fun casually and with friends but lets not pretend the game had any competitive variety when 90% of it was Kabal, Cyrax, Kenshi, Freddy. @@MugdhaMahdiShams
Balance in fighting games is overrated
@@uratheboi1555 Cool, competitive players should just lab more to find counters instead of whining about every new character till by the end of the game's cycle every single character in the game is mid.
Li mei was main in season 1 but i think it might be time to pick her up again. Her buffs are actually huge
Ii hate how hard they nerfed peacemaker, giving me deadshot ptsd 😢 At least they didn't completely kill him like they did deadshot but I'm still upset about it
Eh, he’s still good.
Here to request Competitive History of *Liu Kang!*
Liu Kang is a drug addict.
That's going to be a long while
Good video
Loved omnivado but that 900 health hurt, especially when my main sparring partner plays shao 😂😂
Rain is sloooow that water trap I can’t ever compete without getting hit
Wouldnt a server side patch make offline tournaments be on the wrong patch?
lol but sub zero spending a bar of meter gets him far less damage
Just cause ice moves scale a lot
@@aq3x.1 but it’s like why when sindel scream she still gets 40 no bar scorpion spear still get high 30s no bar or any other capture state. It’s what they are capture states
@@Nonlifting_breezy i’m really not sure,,,it’s always been like that but i agree with you
@@aq3x.1 like it’s almost impossible to regularly freeze someone with him but in the past games I could just combo into normal ice ball. This game man
@@Nonlifting_breezythe way sub freezes in this game is the worst it’s ever been, they should have just let him combo off ice ball like he always has, don’t know what the purpose of giving him a new freeze move was
LEI MEI SIMPS, RISE ‼️‼️‼️
Good buffs for Li-Mains
🎇🥳🎇
That rain skin during the peacemaker bit is amazing
And it's from this season, the season of the Reptile!
I have a Green Rain/Sektor team and it's very cursed
What’s that background music
🟨🟥
So now it's Johnny Cage solo game lol.
Should I come Back to the game
Nice! Peacemaker was really op
Also can you explain how to consistently get rain god after b3 with rain???
I wish I could say there's a trick to it, but it's just hard. You just need to practise it a lot.
@@PNDKM thanks for the hard truth
Anyone have the song name?
*fewer frames
Hmm… 😢
Peace maker getting nerfed is the end of mighty unjust lmao
I think people forget Unjust can play almost every character 😂🤷♂️
Facts LMAO
@@SeanBjerkeyeah they are not as good as his PM tho
@@onomatopoeia7219i think it was more that the other characters weren’t as good as Peacemaker. He’s a pro, he’ll polish somebody up and I bet he’ll still be among the top players, result-wise.
Johnny Cage nerfs be like ”if he makes a mistake, he can actually be punished for it now 🤯” LMAO my man
First
Another character added to the list of over nerfed characters that are no longer viable. Don't at me with your complaints.
I'm glad my boi Reptile was buffed.
Except Peacemaker is still MORE then viable. He's just not brainless anymore so of course nobody competitively is gonna use him because he doesn't require less brainpower then most other characters lmao
@@uratheboi1555He also kept Johnny in check a bit. Nothing wrong with him potentially being Mid Tier, but Johnny’s likely the undisputed Top 1 with a bullet now, even with these nerfs to his defense. He also just had his health nerfed and Torpedo made into a High just a few days ago too. All that stuff adds up.
Havic would make a great drinking buddy.
I love hearing all the mains peacemaker. "Boo hoo its not fair". "They nerf him too much" lol. So your grand strategy of going back and put shield its now harder to pull off. How dumb can people be by saying that nerfing peacemaker will make the game boring, because that character screams excitement. Yeaaa, was a joy to watch peacemaker 20 times at final kombat. I hope to not see him so much at evo or the next tournament.
Hanzo the REAL Scorpion still has better forward 3 in MK11.
Reptile down players I feel are gonna be feasting now that his strings aren’t punishable anymore
He already had some amazing strings and normals, now he's got even more of them.
Makes me so sick how all these female fighters getting buffs yet Mileena was a DLC in 11 & low tier in this game. So much unsafe stuff for her no full screen projectile without using meter & up close she can be punished on every string.
What’s the music playing in the background?
Buff sub zero
Isn't the song playing in the background from Tekken?
No more peacemaker after peacemaker after peacemaker in tournaments praise the lord
Just in time for combo breaker lul
I know Sonicfox and Nicholas are punching the air right now after these Johnny nerfs
Sonic probably mad that scorpion got buffed now lol
nrs havent a clue
Johnnys a regular character just like the rest of the line up, boo hoo… haha! I love it! Peace Maker too, good times. Best patch ever!
You ok man? Boo hoo... haha seems a little unhinged
@@ZombieaidZyeah man, I’m super unhinged. I need help!
I've seen so many people talking about this patch as if it's the biggest thing that game has done and it kind of is. They gave Johnny the nerfs that johnny should've had since day 1 AND they nerfed peacemaker. They nerfed the 2 characters who were safe on EVERYTHING...
Being safe on everything is good for the game. It makes the character robust and punishes people for trying to fight them head-on.
WHO ARE NINJA AND THE TWINS GONNA USE AT THE NEXT BIG TOURNEY????
Johnny and probably Homelander lol
Ninja kung lao, the twins possibly rain and raiden
Liu should be fine now
These boys gonna be so mad their mains are coming back as female robots 😭
It's funny because he's still a good character he just can't do whatever he wants anymore. And people are still gonna drop him
Yes because he can't do whatever he wants it's mk..These guys only care about what's broken after something stops being broken they move on
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 that's any online game right now tbh. That's why I've been playing more solo games, no meta abuse there
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 Winning is fun. And not winning is not fun.
That is the issue with PvP games
Its crazy khameleon doesnt get touch
She didn’t need to get touched
She got touched in the last Hotfix with less Pushback on Ball Roll and a health reduction.
Does anyone play Pacemaker?
My grandpa does, hopefully his won't get nerfed!
Him and Johnny were basically the only 2 characters seen in Final Kombat. He's extremely popular
@@razor5477Not exactly. They were just the most used. General Shao, Shang Tsung, Rain, Sindel, Kitana, Raiden, & Liu Kang also saw Top 8 action, because all the Pros play multiple characters.
Totally agree with the johnny nerfs. I never understood why the best offensive character had the best defensive options as well.
Stryker as a kameo is boring in a sense i mean he had the guns that were used in combos in mk9 that would be really good
The most important thing is that the reward of a move should always match up to the risk the person using the move takes. Johnny's parry had too high a reward for very low risk in too many situations. I would prefer if they added more moves to the base roster and reduced on the power of Ambush Kameos or increase the cost of all ambush moves to both bars. (With moderately increased bar recharge.)
I disagree.
Having no risk and high reward is how the moves should feel in general.
Fighting games should be teaching morality. And that is, sometimes not fighting (inaction) is the best action in a situation.
Johnny was a good example of that. By choosing to fight him first, you are penalized.
You should only fight back when he messes up, not the other way around.
Li mei and Geras got mad buffs without needing it, Johny cage got a meaningless nerf, but sub zero and scorpion still can't get something decent. This is why the game has so little players remaining. Last nite Street fighter had 16k player on steam while mk has little over 1k. This is exactly why.
Are we still using steam numbers for mk like MK isn't mainly a console game? The fact you even said that johnny getting his busted parries and shadow kick nerfed was meaningless is even more hilarious then the spew about numbers. Heres why sf had that many last night btw, Bison LITERALLY JUST CAME OUT DAWG
JC nerfs were far from meaningless...
Li and Geras got buffs they desperately needed.
I disagree with Johnny and Peacemakers nerfs. Both of them are in dire need of buffs to the other aspects of their kit, so that they would not have to reply on the same thing over and over.
Also, Street Fighter? A fighting game without a block button is not a fighting game - it is eating sand game.
Same thing with shooter games that do not offer you invincibility options and parry to bullets.
Jesus can they stop nerfing Peacemaker poor dude is literally dead
This is typical NRS over correction. I swear, I wish people on that team would watch that balance video from the Killer Instinct team, their games would be better off for it.
As a blind player, force field was literally my ticket through all of the stupid survive challenges in invasions because it just nullified all of them, then they said no you have it too nice so now it only takes one hit, have fun.
You mean the only other character that was used in Final Kombat?
@@SirLightsOut99it takes three hits bro might wanna try pm/ sub zero for ice armor for those challenges tho
He needed nerfing wht r u on about
Would love to see a video from you guys on your thoughts on cyrax and sector being gender swapped in mk1
You losers ever gonna post a Homelander guide?
He released right as I was starting to get really busy with final kombat, plus he was SUPER buggy for a few weeks on launch.
Now the dust has settled and he's more where he should be, I can definitely make a homelander video :)
@@PNDKM Thanks, I appreciate it.
Go into practice mode genius