Classical Composer Reacts to PINK FLOYD: WHEN THE TIGERS BROKE FREE | The Daily Doug | Ep. 687
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm commemorating Veterans' Day by listening to When the Tigers Broke Free by Pink Floyd. This personal and pointed song from Roger Waters tells the story of his father, Eric Fletcher Waters, who lost his life during the battle of Anzio in World War II. The song was written and recorded during The Wall sessions, and it was included in the movie version of The Wall. This profound little song is the perfect vehicle to get in the proper mindset to pay homage to our Veterans, and I thank all our Veterans for their service and sacrifice. Peace.
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I cry every single time. Hundreds and hundreds of listens. I’ve never hardened to this one.
The potency is severe
same here. I never hardened to it either.
As you noted, this song was added to later releases of 'The Final Cut', where it sits perfectly amid that album's narrative progression. It's a hugely under appreciated album in my opinion and I highly recommend you give it a listen. 'The Gunner's Dream' is a particular favourite of mine.
Final Cut was more like Roger’s first solo album. Rick was non existent. Very little contribution from other members.
The title track has always been my favorite.
Amazing lyricist.
Daddy issues, though and well, now he's... well, not on the right side of history this time, for sure.
@@christopherwhite7347Perhaps, but I enjoy the Final Cut but don't enjoy any of Roger's other work
@@christopherwhite7347there’s some fantastic guitar work by Gilmour too on the album.
Perhaps not as much as fans would have liked, but I’m not sure the album would have had the same impact with the “traditional” Floyd sound.
It's my favorite album of theirs, even though it all Roger and I get the feeling that he's impossible to work with.
An absolutely glaring omission from The Wall album, and probably the strongest moment in the whole movie.
The biggest omission is the full version of Empty Spaces that was used in the movie, and isn’t anywhere I have found.
@@christopherwhite7347 yes they have never released "The Wall OST" which is sad. That version of Empty Spaces is fantastic.
@@christopherwhite7347 th-cam.com/video/CLpR0oBOKWQ/w-d-xo.html
@@christopherwhite7347 Yes, where they go into the next section of "shall we buy some new guitars/drive more powerful cars" etc. I never liked the way Empty Spaces cut off and Young Lust began, once I heard some of the live versions of The Wall, where the full version was always played. Never understood why they would cut less than 2 minutes of music, when there was space left on the vinyl
Yeah.... all omissions pale in comparison to not having Hey You in the movie
Thank you to all the veterans. This song always makes me tear up. The pain and hurt are so visceral.
It gets me from the first note, the first seconds of that movie.
Whatever ones opinion of Roger, you cant deny his childhood was destroyed by war, and a lot of us can empathize with that. It happens too often.
And in this case it was it worth it... I sound like a terrible person but it helped create Pink Floyd. Made for one hell of a message to the world, our children, and boy it sounded good!
That rubber stamp line was brutal even when I head it as a teenager
@@Jay-iq5zu First heard this at a showing of The Wall film 17/07/1982. Made me cry then, and still does today. I now understand why I was so upset when I received a "rubber stamp" letter denying me access to something about 30 years ago.
It's more like" I hurt in such a way that I dedicated my whole life and my whole attitude to make sure no one anywhere in the world ios ever going to be hurt that way!"@@gregmoldovan5921
@@Jay-iq5zu Waters really spits the word.
Ohhh this is one few people have even heard. This came out as a 7" single, I actually own that.
I often play this on acoustic and sing, it's a perfect song for Remembrance Day.
"And my eyes still grow damp to remember his Majesty signed with his own.... rubber stamp" Brutal.
I saw it on the movie "Pink Floyd The Wall". It was hard to buy for a while.
I've always preferred the single version over the film one. I was disappointed when they released Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd and then the re-vamped The Final Cut because they used the film version. The single version is only available on CD on a promo for The Wall Live in Berlin '90. It's the drummers that make the single version more powerful for me. And like you I still have my gatefold single of it with a purchase receipt in it. 😀
I got it as a standard 45 rpm single, however with the triple-sleeve cover, back in the 80's. The B-side contains the choir version of "Bring the Boys Back Home".
Notice the duality of the lyric "...it came as I recall in the form of a scroll with gold leaf and all...." indicating the formality and at the same time the triviality of the communication with what Waters perceives to be the establishment`s obvious (in his eyes) attitudes. I just realized Waters intentionally placed scroll in rhyme with all and recall. He implies the official scroll was to him a trivial scrawl. The gold leaf was to him a gawdy dime store treatment to him of a symbol for his father's sacrifice. The weight of the lyric never occurred to me until I heard Doug read it.
@@sneakyfox4651 That's the one I have.
Thank you for not stopping this beautiful piece half way. The emotions it forces out are tangible.
i never know exactly how to commemorate veteran's day,but being part of the viewing audience of this video makes me feel like i have done so.
Doug,
You are so right about Roger's support of all veterans of war. I have a good friend who's son was killed in Desert storm. When Roger brought The Wall to San Diego, He invited my friend to come backstage before the concert with other loved ones of fallen Warriers. Roger talked to each one of them for a lot of time, never giving the impression that he didn't want to be there. Later in the concert, That I was at. Roger showed a picture of my friend's son in his uniform, I about lost my shit!!! it was so amazing.
Loved this track when I first heard it in the movie. And to all the veterans, thank you for your service.
Thank you Doug for doing this video. My dad fought in the entire Italian campaign, including Cassino and Anzio. Those battles were horrific. I am lucky, my dad survived the war. How terrible it is for a child to lose his or her father in a war (or any situation) and grow up without their father. Just goes to show how pointless and stupid wars are. I am reminded of a couple of antiwar songs. John Lennon's Give Peace a Chance and ELP's Farewell to Arms.
This has always been a favorite for me. What a powerful expression of grief, and the futility of war.
This song breaks me, every time.
Thanks for listening to this track Doug. I sure hope you take a dive into Roger Water's solo career. Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, Radio Kaos, Amused to Death are fantastic albums.
Radio KAOS is a fantastic record! I just started listening to his solo stuff and that record is an amazing experience!
I hate radio chaos.... pros and cons and amused are stellar albums though.
The story that is "The Pro's and Con's" puts amazing images in your head... you have to be a special person to create such mastery.
Interestingly, in Roger's solo concert film of The Wall there is a scene where he does, in fact, lay out the entire offensive that his father died in. It really does make the song that much more poignant.
I'm not sure why, but I have the sense that this song would be fantastic arranged for and played on bagpipes, along with the original Waters' vocals.
I bet that would sound awesome.
I'm always impressed with the economy of the lyrics for the song. It's like one of those three sentence short stories that can be devastating in their simplicity. The beginning and middle verse are all very prim and proper; they make the sacrifice of Roger's father sound noble and worthy. The final verse tells the truth; it was cold and dark, they were scared, the enemy broke through, and everyone was slaughtered. There was no glory just senseless death.
I hope to see your reaction to the film some day on Patreon.
It is such pity this song not widely available, great song, always moves me to tears
I highly encourage a listen to the entire album of The Final Cut. Especially the version that includes this song. It’s an incredible commentary on war, and still rings true 40 years later.
That album is nothing but trash.
I like it. Screw the haters.
I completely disagree. This album is great, but NOT with this song included. It wasn't on the original album. And it kills the awesome transition between the original two songs it was spliced in between on subsequent remastered versions.
This song should have remained as it originally was. Part of the movie The Wall and an obscure single.
I wish I had never seen The Wall, so I could experience seeing it for the first time again. Masterpiece
This whole album is so underrated two suns in the sunset is one of the best songs ever imo❤ this album makes me cry alot! I relate to roger so much
This song wasn't part of the original version of the very underrated and brilliant The Final Cut.
Heartbreaking, bitter, sarcastic, majestic, emotional......and wonderful in the context of the story. Should have been on the album but I daresay original vinyl time constraints.
It's so even-keeled all the way through until Waters practically spits out the word "daddy" (rather than "father"). That's why it hits me so hard.
I also thought about his line about the king's rubber stamp. And while I don't want to take away from Roger's righteous anger, I also had to think about the king -- who did not send those men to war, that was Churchill -- and what it would be like to sign so many scrolls. It would have been about 175 per day. Think about hand-signing 175 scrolls per day for six years.
But signing scrolls is nothing compared to being killed. Perfunctory condolences can be worse than none at all.
It's the LEAST they could do.
There're some amazing songs from The Final Cut like Gunner's dream, Fletcher memorial home and title track
The Gunner's Dream is another Remembrance Day song. I think it's one of Roger's best war songs.
I'd love to see Doug react to the whole album.
Fletcher Memorial Home is one of the great proposals for a new world government that I can really get behind.
The Final Cut is very overshadowed by Pink Floyds other albums
@@richardkeeler2347 it's really "Roger Waters presents... The Wall Part 2" and that's why it's not often regarded as a Pink Floyd album at all. It's great but lacking the other members' contributions.
Such a powerful, raw song! The climax is basically Roger's primal scream of pain and fury. Thank you for sharing this for Veteran's/Armistice Day. Now, go get a DVD of "The Wall" and strap in!
Thank you for evaluating this. This piece is one of the most poignant he ever did. Doug, you absolutely must experience 'The Wall'. As others have mentioned, 'The Final Cut' is a must - hear as well.
This is so harrowing. I love this song. It always makes me shivers.
Nearly 80 years on and the world is still full of hatred and killing. 😢
In the words of the great American song writer Tom Paxton, ‘Peace, peace will come and let it begin with me’ 🙏
Thanks for doing this Doug...I shed tears every time hearing this: I do not often hear this track. As a vet, this encapsulates what service to your country entails.
Veterans Day 🪖 🇺🇸 🙏 Nov 11 Thank you for serving our country!
The movie The Wall will be well worth your time. As movies go, there isn't much dialogue. But the music more than carries it, with the lyrics saying more than the actors could. There is some absolutely breathtaking animation, all hand drawn...pre CGI, that will blow your mind.
It's a remarkably affecting track which still gets me more often than not. I think The Final Cut was an apt album to eventually shoehorn it into as it fits better with the emotional theme of that work, some of them more similar such as "The Gunner's Dream" and some more subtle, "Paranoid Eyes" and "Southampton Dock".
I hate it on The Final Cut. It just doesn't belong. And it kills the transition between 'One of the few' and 'The hero's return' on the original album.
Southampton Dock, though... brilliant
@@rmyikzelf5604 Yeah, you're not wrong. On the odd occassion when I listen to the album I still expect the original trasition, adding it into the running order 20 years later makes it inevitable that it will disrupt the flow of an album you may have been listening to for all that time. I stand by my opinion that the track is of the same stuff as the others on the album and if it had been on there in the first place it may have sat better.
I have so much love for this song. Thanks for doing this one. Amaaaaaazing.
As a former RAF serviceman, I thank you for your commentary this very powerful song about the waste of human life that war brings! Although I don't always agree with some of Rodgers views and comments. he has every right to write and perform this piece of music as he has. Bless you Mr Waters and shame on the politicians!
Roger's voice here is so powerful and incredible, so overwhelming😮😢❤
Beautiful piece of art.
Thanks for this Doug!! Great reaction. I first heard this song when watching The Wall. Immediately felt it's impact, and was sad that it wasn't part of the album, but it completely fit the narrative of The Wall concept (especially knowing Roger's past - understood it was biographical). It truly is such a fitting piece for Remembrance Day!
Thank you to ALL the service members, present & past, living or passed. Your sacrifices are what's made our way of life possible - never lose sight of that!! Lest we forget.
The Pontardulais Male Voice Choir, conducted by Noel Davies who was my Primary school headmaster. Was a very musical school and I'm so grateful for that, as an ageing musician.
Thank you so much Doug. Great respect on this day.
One of my all time favorites songs, and well said Doug.
Listening to it, I had the images of the movie in my head, it crushed my heart. I cried at the "And that's how the high command took my Daddy, from me"... War is stupid. Although personal, we can all relate what it is or what it could be to grow without ever seen once your "Daddy"...
I was lucky to visit the premiere of the movie The Wall in Utrecht, Netherlands, and got the vinyl single with this song, with beautiful artwork.
Ive never heard this before. What a powerful song and so fitting for today. GOD bless all those who gave their lives, and those serving today for our freedom. Let it not be in vain. 🙏
I first watched The Wall in 87 and heard tigers early in my RAF career and it moved me but I didn't really feel it.
Now I did 23 years service and know some names carved in stone I cannot hear this and not sob uncontrollably.
Cheers for treating us on a Saturday, Doug!
Thanks for this Doug so poinient on this sad day and a brilliant track.
What a powerful message and performance. WOW.
Only one word: THANKS!
I just watched the movie for the first time in 20 years. Then i checked TH-cam and you posted this video. Whatva coincidence!!
Wow that was powerful. Attended a Remembrance Day ceremony here in Canada today. My father's father died in 1941 during WWII.
That’s how the high command took my daddy from me.
I was ready for it to go into Goodbye Blue Sky at the end.
The bitterness of this song is so poignant. And so on point.
P.S. Have you done _One of These Days_ ? I'd get a kick out of you reacting to that, I think.
I recommend you not pull up a lyric sheet for it, though, and be careful when reading in (try to avoid much info on the structure of the song). You'll understand why later.
Thank You Doug.........as a Veteran agains Thanks
Have absolutely always loved this tune, on The Wall movie and later, on The Final Cut.
Doug you will LOVE the final cut. It doesn't get much love, but I think it to be some of their best work.
Happy birthday Marine Corps
And blessings on Veterans Day. A lot of people have taken for granted what our service men have done for us for the last 100 years.
God bless our troops and God Bless America 🇺🇸
Thanks for commenting this beautiful song. Since I also lost my father when I was young (cancer, not war) this song stroke my to the merge of my bones and my eyes still grow damp when I watch this scene where Pink puts on the hat of his father and looks into the mirror, seeing both himself and his daddy.
But the film doesn't open with this song. At the very beginning when the cleaning lady of the hotel where Pink stays is working there is a song playing The little boy that Santa Claus forgot by Vera Lynn. Vera Lynn is mentioned later in the story and this song is about a little boy who doesn't have a father.
Absolutely love this piece. It’s very powerful. Equally powerful is The Final Cut album, which I really think you should listen to in its entirety. It’s best experienced that way.
Brilliant piece of music well done Roger
Tears. For the millionth time.
If you don't weep to this song you're an android.
Immediately, as soon as the first notes are played. It's crazy how powerful this song is.
Can't not cry when I hear this.
This is the most powerful PF song of many powerful songs.
Nice. Well Put.
Sir, one of the best reastions I have seen and heard. You have my respect. Just an Englishman, no one that matters.
Tremendously moving ❤
Not sure if this comment has been previously said. The deep drums in the beginning is to symbolise shelling (cannon shells?) in the distance. In the movie, you have the added sound of the shells moving though the air as they pass over Roger's dad in a bunker.
Not just me then. I used to love having this so loud, the shelling sound would make the double glazing shake. Not sure the neighbours appreciated it though.
Great vid today Doug, thanks. A lot of the information you gave us, I didn't know. Go and watch the film!!!
Beautiful Doug. Thanks so much. Love the channel as always. Try to do “The Gunner’s Dream” at some point too if you can, that’s a beauty/sad one also. Thanks again. 👍🏻
Sad, Cold and Powerful song!
"He's taken it personally." Excellent summary of The Wall.
Nobody quite does emotion and atmosphere like the Floyd.
The movie is worth your time.
That was deeper than I thought it would be.
Thanx so very much Doug for this very special reaction and analysis of "When The Tigers Broke Free" by Pink Floyd. Thanx also for your your poignant thoughts on Veterans Day (USA) and Remembrance Day(Canada) that I heartily agree with you on.
I urge you to watch "The Wall", the movie, at your earliest convenience as I think it is an amazing film by Alan Parker and will give you more insight into the music and Roger Waters and Pink Floyd. I ran the premiere of The Wall in Toronto back in August 1982. I will never forget how the first 5-10 minutes of the film changed an audiences demeanor so quickly and so completely.
As my good friend would remark, after we saw the press screening, : " I feel like someone flipped open my skull and fondled my brain?"
It is a powerful and magnificent film. I hope you enjoy it.
Very sad song on this very sad day,thank you.
Hey Doug, I sent you the single, so you had it in your collection. It will be interesting when you get around to reacting to "The Final Cut" in its entirety. Most folk who are Pink Floyd fans shy away from it because it is very personal and mostly about Roger's life but for me that's what makes it so special ... bring the box of tissues ...
Holy. Moly. Doug, you absolutely must do a reaction video for The Wall movie. Sober and enhanced ;)
Would love your reaction to a track from The Final Cut, The Gunners Dream is an incredible song, but Two Suns, The Fletcher Memorial Home and The Final Cut are superb... A much underrated album I think.
Two worthy contenders from The Wall I think, Mother and Nobody Home... I love these videos.. Thanks.
There was also something signed with some kind of stamp, in our country there was just a "funeral" for my great-grandfather's family, a typed letter came that he died with the stamp of the local military enlistment office...
Brilliant track.
"He's taken it personally" - understatement of the century.
It's a very emotive song and probably explains a lot about Roger. His muscial legacy and that of the band are secure.
Great reaction Doug! The Pogues “Waltzing Matilda” and “A Pair of Brown Eyes”, “The Foggy Dew” by Sinead O’Connor w/the Chieftans, and, The Fureys with Davey Arthur “The Green Fields of France” are all great songs to listen to on Veterans Day.
Tyvm indeed😢, you looked like hiding your tears, I couldnt
Anyone else noticed how the bass line sounds like artillery shells being fired? Best experienced pretty loud on speakers to get the resonant sound.
Remembrance Day in Canada and I believe the rest of the Commonwealth. I perform in a local concert band, playing string bass, here in my hometown of Sudbury, Ontario, Canada and we'll be performing a concert tomorrow with a variety of RAF marches, swing jazz pieces, arrangements of Lennon's "Imagine", Holst's Second Suite in F and "I Vow to Thee my Country", the theme from "Schindler's List", among other pieces. Music is a fantastic way to pay tribute to the veterans who fought for our freedoms. :)
I love the inclusion in the movie as part one and part two. The build up of the story line after part one and the child finding his fathers gun, uniform and letter from king george during part 2 of the song really makes a difference to how this song resonates.
Thank you so much for this one! Actually this is my favorite Pink Floyd song. The stark finality of the ending just kills me every time. My own father lost his dad in WWII so it really resonates with me imagining how that must have been. 🥲
his grandfather died in WWI in the tunnels under the trenches. His father's father. BTW: the Wall is all about war and the influence on Roger's life and that of 100's of millions of others who adore his music
Well no, the Wall is partially about that. That is one of many "Bricks" in Pink's wall
Happy New year Doug, here I am rewatching a bunch of your videos again! I invite you to listen to "Gunners Dream" another emotive and dense pink Floyd masterpiece. Would love to see you react to that one- incredible lyrics, vocal delivery and composition.
I shed a tear
I recommend The Fletcher Memorial Home. It’s the best song off The Final Cut
My father was there at Anzio with the US Amy 3rd Infantry Division. I asked him what it was like. His reply: "Loud."
I agree with a comment below... The Final Cut is an AMAZING album. and one of my all time favorites. and it's weird that I can't listen to this song without having it immidately followed by Good By Blue Sky.
I played (second) guitar in a stage production of The Wall at University (1989, maybe 1990), and this song was included by the two 3rd year students who put the show on. I'd not seen the film so when this song first came up during cast rehearsals (no guitar parts so I'd not heard it when we were going through band rehearsals) I was more than a little puzzled ("What the *** is this?!")
IIRC, there were some other additions from the movie, and some album parts omitted, so the show we did was an amalgamation of the album and the movie.
I never did get all the white cloud-effects dust from the wall collapsing scene off my old amplifier!
Fun times, even with such a serious subject.
I appreciate your take on this particular song, which as you mention was not on the original album.
I once read that Roger said, 'if it doesn't move you, its not worth listening to'. Which kind of encompasses all RW's lyrics and songs.
Please find one of my personal favourites of Roger's work (and not well known) on TH-cam its, 'Get Back To Radio' taken from the recordings of the album 'Radio Kaos but not on the main released album.
Poignant lyrics and sublime saxophone played by King Crimson's Mel Collins. Heart rending.
If you want something with a very similar tone, and Roger's anger. Check out The Fletcher Memorial Home, also on The Final Cut.
Movie is a must!
One of my favorite Floyd songs, but I think it's kinda understood that bring the boys back home is the 2nd chapter of this & together they make a movement.
When I was at college, a few bus loads of us were taken up to London' Royal Horticultural Hall to be the crowd in The Wall film.... A fascinating few days.