Building the Perfect Ice Type Gym Leader
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Gym Leaders are some of the most powerful trainers in the Pokémon world and are the main hurdles a trainer most overcome throughout their journey. But the reality is that many of them are underwhelming, even during their post-game fights. To showcase what a Gym Leader should truly be, today I'm continuing my series where I build a "perfect" gym leader for every type in the game! A team that's not only challenging, but one that represents the type better than their in-game teams could ever hope to. - เกม
Why are ICE gyms ALWAYS LATE when you have SO MANY COUNTERS makes you wanna make an early ice gym
It would be cool to have a region START with ice types instead of end
Because Ice is super effective against flying, ground and grass
Yes, with this you can also enjoy a earlier ice type
@@MerpMerpmerp-kq2xp totally
Is not a problem of strategy or designs or dificulty
Is their placement
Is soooo late that you found already 10 fighting types, 5 solid fire types and even could train steel types that take ages to train
Ice types could be more fun earlier since you can defeat early types plus help you against types like dragon or ground that make some trouble
I played a room hack where ice pokemon and hail were at the beginning. The first gym was ice and it was hard. It made ice types seem a lot better
Pokemon unbound did that and so much more
Every day I'm shocked that Ice doesn't resist Water
Yeah, the two types that absolutely should mutually resist each other.
I think Ice should be super effective against water but not resist water
I think scald should be super effective against ice too because it’s basically hot water
Well water does cause ice to melt...
Idk if you know this but water is usually warmer than ice…or it would be ice.
@@LucarioredLR Trying melting the snow or ice on your driveway with a pot of water and report back how much ice there is after
"Odds are Pokémon people will bring to this Gym wouldn't resist Ghost"
*shows a picture of Garganacl*
Still 2/3 😅
I'm glad some one said it cos I was going to
I came down here just to say that.
That Garganacl could have Sturdy, you never know
@@shinyarchen_39 but why run Sturdy when Purifying Salt is too good not to use as it gives garg an extra resistance and immunity to being statused
This type is LITERALLY the *coolest* type from all of them.
Haha very ICE pun! get it?
LOL
Choosing Crabominable over one of the only Ice types ever sent to Ubers is why Ice Gym Leaders get a bad reputation. 😂
Thats what i was thinking
yeah just ignore fast offensive mons like weavile or baxcalibur, time to throw in some crab people barely remember exists because like one trainer used it in its debut region, which also doesn’t allow you access to the area where it evolves until victory road which is when you’ll already have a fully established team
@@specs.weedle While I understand your complaint, that doesn't really hold up in analogy as it being a weak choice. I.E. Tyranitar. You can't get Larvitar in it's debut generation until you've literally beat all 16 gym leaders and the Johto League. Yet it was on a lot of teams.
@@specs.weedleother Ice-types have offensive stat spreads, Crabominable’s just offensive to look at
@@shinyarchen_39 imagine what alola mons would be like if the mon designers didn't fall for the "island time is a thing so let's make everything really slow" meme
The real perfect ice gym leader is the one that doesn't show up like 70 hours imto the game when you already have like 5 different counters in your team to them
this!! i wish gamefreak would make an ice type gym earlier in the game, like the 3rd of 4th gym in a region, so that there is still some challenge and you dont just spam a fire or fighting move with any of the fully evolved Pokemon on your team lol.
No Baxcalibur, Weavile, Frosmoth, or Cloyster is very surprising. Galarian Darm should have been in the team instead of an honorable mention.
Cloyster instead of Lapras?
@@shadycactus7896 will shell smash, cloyster becomes quite terrifying with icicle spear and rock blast thanks to skill link
@@rg6637 I could see the others being used on other teams, well except poor Frosmoth since Bug has already been done. G Darm not being in despite being pure Ice is a crime lol
@@nolongerapersonthere can be overlap
@@Pi-eipp I doubt it. You may be right, but since he's a content creator I feel like he's going to not use the same Pokémon twice.
Easily it’s a team of 6 dellibird
Future delobird or normal delibird?
@@elkinvargas6481 normal is the GOAT
(seriously I beat Professor Sada's Roaring Moon with it)
nah a single level 3 snom better
Nom nom the snom solos
Ice monotypes are somewhat decent nowadays, still in my opinion I'd say your team can still be improved.
Aurora Veil is an enabler for powerful offensive teams over more longer defensive playstyles. There is no better Pokemon than Baxcalibur for an Ice Monotype.
The role of taking any physical hits would be best suited for something like avalugg, it becomes unbeatable on the physical side under the snow, and provides meaningful support with rapid spin, which is crucial since stealth rocks are a death sentence for ice teams, and has the possibility to heal.
I'd say Weavile, Arctozolt, Arctovish, Cloyster are also honorable mentions.
I’d personally use Alolan Sandslash as a rapid spinner because of Slush Rush giving it a rather fast Rapid Spin, which also gives it a speed boost to sweep with while it gets pretty useful offensive moves in Ice Spinner/Triple Axel and Iron Head (to hit rock types), and Earthquake as coverage for fire types.
Sure it’s 4x weak to fire and fighting but it has teammates to help with that, but it importantly only takes neutral damage from steel and importantly rock moves, with its rock resistance making it take less damage from the rocks it’s meant to spin away.
It also gets Knock Off to hit fire types neutrally in case you want to swap out your steel STAB for something different (especially if you have earthquake to hit rock types super effectively), and it also has great synergy with Rapid Spin as it threatens spinblocking ghost types with a super effective 97BP dark move that removes their item.
Oh yeah it also gets Swords Dance if you need a setup sweeper, but that’d be better off for a set without Rapid Spin due to 4 moveslot syndrome. You’d probably be better off with a different setup sweeper like Weavile or especially Baxcalibur, but I’m not dismissing SD Snowslash as a viable option, especially in hail.
It also gets Spikes/Stealth Rock if you want to lean into the utility side.
Also getting rid of that Crabominable is a must lol, it should be replaced by Weavile
Ok let’s get this over with before someone else does “Hail yeah”
A fun thing about thick fat is that while it halves fire damage meaning Mamoswine takes 1x damage from fire moves, it is still considered a super effective hit which would trigger the weakness policy without taking extra damage
After all gym leaders are made you need a rom hack of your own game with all gym leaders you built them
So, I really like this "Creating hypothetical perfect Gym Leader teams for each type" series. And during the wait between the Bug-type video and this one, I got kinda bored and drafted up my own versions of teams for the remaining types (And made slightly modified versions of your teams; I swapped Smeargle for Bewear on the Normal-type team and Galvantula for Vikavolt on the Bug-type team). I'm a fairly causal Pokemon player, so I based my teams mainly around type coverage, some brief glances at competitive tierlists, and personal biases, so I've been excited to see how your teams differentiated from mine.
And shockingly, my Ice-type team was very similar to yours; I had Mammoswine, Froslass, Lapras (Though it was originally Cloyster), and Alolan Ninetails on my team as well. As for differences, I had Galarian Darmanitan in place of Crabominable. I enforced a "At least one monotype per team if there's room" rule onto myself when making the teams, and Galarian Darmanitan met that rule on technicality, with its Zen Mode providing a counter for Ice's resistance to... well, Ice. I would've used Crabominable, had I not already used it for my Fighting-type team; I had a strict "Each Pokemon can only be used once per team" rule and was going in the order Bulbapedia has the types listed, and since Ice is listed way later than fighting... you get the idea. As for Cetitan, I had Alolan Sandslash in place of it. This is mainly because I had a couple extra spots left and wanted to place in some personal favorites, hence Froslass and Alolan Sandlash were included. Plus, I wanted to avoid type-overlap, and since I already had Galarian Darmanitan as an Ice-monotype, I didn't want to include anymore Ice-monotypes. And to be honest... I kinda forgot Cetitan exists; It's one of the less memorable new Pokemon from Gen IX, to me.
I also decided to give each of my teams a Gym Leader, and for the Ice team, I went with Candice from Gen IV. I originally had Lorelei from Gen I (My actual favorite Ice-type trainer) in that spot, but it felt weird demoting an Elite Four member to trainer status. For my Normal and Bug teams, I picked Larry and Guzma (In my headcanon he becomes a Gym Leader somewhere after the events of Sun and Moon) respectively.
Can you tell me the members of your fire type team?
@@harrisontownsend910 It's not one of my favorite teams, since Fire isn't one of my favorite types and I already used some of my favorite Fire-types earlier (Volcarona, Chandelure, Delphox, and Talonflame). But...
-Arcanine
-Blaziken
-Turtonator
-Charizard
-Scovillain
-Celuredge
And Flannery is the Gym Leader.
I had an earlier version with Torkoal as the token monotype and either Camerupt or Coalossal in place of Charizard for type coverage. I ultimately swapped Torkaol for Arcanine since I like the latter a smidge more, and I realized having a x4 weakness to water in the form of Camerupt/Coalossal (Two Pokemon I don't really like) wasn't worth it, so I replaced that spot with a Fire-type I actually liked
I had a rule where for the three starter-type teams, I needed at least one starter on that team. Blaziken got priorty for being my favorite Fire-type starter. And Charizard isn't one of my favorite Fire-type starters (I'd say it's tied with Infernape for 4th/5th place), it is an insanely iconic Fire-type, so I felt he deserved a spot.
Turtonator and Scovillain aren't my favorite Fire types; They're mainly here for type coverage tbh. If I didn't care for type coverage that much, I think I would've included Incineroar and then either Armorouge, Salazzle, or Centiscorch in their place.
@DCT-tt8ib Thanks man. Blazikin is probably my favorite pokemon so I'm glad he got a spot. The fire type is probably one of my favorite types and I always go with the fire starter.
3:01, Mikey scare! 😂😂
Imagine picking the stupid yeti crab over the chad snowman with a built in Choice Band as an ability. SMH.
yeah this video felt like it was taking the "well there's a lot of defensive ice types" thing way too far
having good defensive stats isn't going to matter if you're weak to common offensive types while resistant to just your own type, and if you're really slow then the majority of mons will be able to get off an extra hit before you do anything anyways
and a lot of offensive ice types were just ignored, even though offense is one of the things ice is great at, and one of the things it's known for
@@specs.weedleA good ice team NEEDS a Weavile, end of discussion
@@shadycactus7896 if not baxcalibur
I feel like a truly elite gym leader would find a nice balance between the two analogies. Also great video I’m a new follower and have really enjoyed the content.
Focusing on the types traits/brand is the way to go. It’s what diversifies this series. Anyone can go look at base stat totals and pick 6 pokemon but finding pokemon that fit the “brand” of a type and represent it as a whole is what makes this series so good.
also idk if it is intentional yet- but i hope that you stray away from starters as most gym leaders don’t use them. just using regularly encountered pokemon that fit the branding of a type is such a cool and unique idea
The only reason I can presume as to why Game Freak sees Ice as a late-game type is because of it’s super effective against Dragons, another late-game type.
After this series of videos is over, you should totally do a "postgame rematch" or "elite 4" team, in which you actually do cross the line you set for the teams, such as the ace featuring a legendary/mythical pokemon. Having a mono ice team without articuno in it feels thematically lacking.
Frosmoth's a mon that adores the snow change so much, with veil and snow up it is living basically any unboosted hit that's not a crit and is getting that quiver off, which sets it up beautifully to sweep
proof: "0 SpA Charizard Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth with an ally's Aurora Veil: 114-135 (40.5 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO"
0 Atk Charizard Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Frosmoth in Snow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 224-266 (79.7 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I also know from my days at the ladder, Eiscue is not a threat if its face is ice, it's dying to any special hit and it is almost never moving first, and while Cetitan is a good choice for slush rush, Sandslash is better as the extra speed is unnecessary for you with the ability active due to the fact that Sandslash in snow is able to outspeed every pokemon that has a base speed stat of 178 or less (spoiler alert the only 2 pokemon that have a higher speed stat than that are Regieleki and Deoxys Speed) and the 170 hp stat from cetitan isn't really usable due to the fact that you're losing half of the stat by using belly drum, which you still have to be able to set up
on the other hand, Sandslash has SD, and a move that is able to hit all of ice's weaknesses, except fighting: iron head covers rock, earthquake covers steel, fire and rock, and then round up the moveset with the stab icrash and you're still probably likely to win against fighting types due to them not resisting your stabs/you can flinch them
my team would be Alolatales with the same moveset except Dark Pulse is Encore, Sandslash with the aforementioned moveset and either a Life Orb or a Chople Berry, Baxcalibur with Glaive Rush, Ddance, Ice Shard and Ice Spinner with a Life Orb, a Mamoswine with EQ, Icicle Crash Stone Edge and Knock Off with a Choice Scarf, Cryogonal with Heavy-Duty Boots, Rapid Spin, Freeze Dry, Snowscape and Recover and finally round things up with a Frosmoth with Quiver, Ice Beam, Bug Buzz and Tera Blast (tera ground) with a Weakness Policy
85 BP Ice Shard isn't real, it can't hurt you monkaS
I like the approach to weather in this video. Putting too many eggs into that basket would make the team very weak to any opponent with anti- weather tech.
Idk if anyone else have said this, but one common set for Froslass is Triple Axel, Poltergeist, Will'O'Wisp, Spikes with a wide lens(?) to boost accuracy. 99% accurate triple axels are a threat, and so is poltergeist. Having an 82.5% accurate will'o is also very dangerous for physical attackers. Imagine the gym leader switches into Froslass on your close combat, only to then burn you, or threaten a burn when you switch. The chance it can also deal a lot of damage with triple axel OR poltergeist makes it hard to predict. The added threat of spikes means you can't let it be either. Although, some sets usually run focus sash to guarantee one layer of spikes
I think that a type should focus more on their types traits, and I have an important reason for that. Gym Leaders are major obstacles yes, but they used to also be *Teachers*
Erica & Koga show you how useful status effects can be
Fantina shows you how important the Phys/Special Split can be
Candice shows you the power of weather & evasion boosts
Whitney teaches you what an annoying B*tch is.
Norman teaches you to choose when to play offensively & defensively.
The Striaton Trio show you the importance of Type Effectiveness
Korrina shows the value of Mega Evolution in her 1 on 1 duel
By making each team focus on the traits of the types, you can make each Gym Battle both a Challenging Milestone on a journey, but also a lesson for new players on how that types works & encourages the player to test it out. When a new play battles a Gym Leader, the Leader will sit them down, and tell them: “This is my type, here’s what it’s good at, here’s its weaknesses, and here’s how I worked around them. Why don’t you try experimenting with it yourself to see what you can do with it?”.
This might just be a me thing, but that sounds much more interesting to both play around with, make a team around, & fight against then just making a team of the 6 strongest Pokémon you can.
A bit confused about the Fantina bit, but yeah.
@@AnonEcho98Her team has mons that tank special moves, meaning you are forced to use physical moves if you want more effect. So pretty much, instead of using an alakazams shadow ball, use a Gyarados crunch
Ghost is actually super useful on this team beyond even what you said. This is because of good ol’ brick break, a fighting move that instantly breaks reflect, light screen, and of course, aurora fail, making the team far less tanky once ninetales goes down… but given Froslass is immune, this can be stopped in a way
I was so excited to watch this!!! Thanks!!
"The only pokemon people are gonna bring to this team dont resist ghost" Shows the ONLY PURE ROCK TYPE THAT CAN RESIST GHOST
I can’t believe D-man didn’t make it
Your abbreviation of Assault Vest has me loling 😂
Love the series! Can’t wait for the Dark Type Gym!
Man, two mono ice types when there are better slush rushers right there
yeah I think ignoring slush rush is something that irks me
there's some other options with Slush Rush, such as Alolan Sandslash (has great role compression and provides important hazard removal with rapid spin + knock off to maim spinblockers), Arctovish (admittedly the weakest of the 4 alternative slush rush options, but still has a decent typong), and Arctozolt (has typing for STAB boltbeam shenanigans, plus a signature move that becomes even better if the user is faster)
This video's editing feels satisfying and clean!
12:08 bro knew that he was doing with the name
Yess been waiting for this one
You should definitely make Froslass the lead and make it like Haydunn's Frostitute
I've binged this entire video series in one sitting and can't wait for the next one! Take my Sub!
Really loving this series. Getting back into Pokemon with more of a strategic mind as an adult has been so much fun and these vids are such a treat !
Great list. This is my favorite type. Glad you included frosslass, it is my personal favorite in the franchise. Looking forward to your Dark Gym.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a tournament with these gym leaders when you’re done! I’d love to see which monotype leader is superior
Ice and Psychic have always been my favorites.
Great video!
been waiting for this one B)
People may hate the **Crabb**, but honestly it's an extremely underrated Pokémon. I'd personally replace Cetitan with Zen!G!Dar instead of it being an alt for Crabominable, because I feel like it's too good a Pokémon to pass up, but Cetitan is a titan in its own right. Plus, Crabominable fits Ice's theming better of being an underdog powerhouse.
Epic vid man, i appreciate the work that went into it! it’d be cool to see the team as a whole at the end or maybe see you play a game with it on showdown
I swear I’ve had a conversation with my friend about how good Crabominable’s typing would be on a fast sweeper type pokemon, like imagine if there was a third member of the Weavile, sneasler family who was Ice Fighting type with their sort of statspread.
First of all, I think it’s quite fitting for you to cover ice first seeing as you have a husky! Second of all, it’s so refreshing to see creators making unique Pokémon videos in an era of nuzlocke over-saturation like you, ZenMode, Big Yellow, and others I am forgetting. Another knockout idea, I can’t wait for the rest of this series. Cheers to the coolest type in Pokémon 🧊
Em-bark with your dog cartoon sketch showing ! Nice pun there 😂
Great vid ;)
GOATS BACK
Aurora veil only lasts as long as the snow remains up, so light clay is useless if the screens automatically fall after 5 turns of snow vs the use of the Icy Rock.
14:43 I’m impressed that you managed to display the only mono rock type that resists ghost type moves while talking about how it doesn’t resist ghost lol
Let's make two assumptions about building a good mono type team, gym leader or just for lols
1) this format is intend as a Takes All Comers format, in that both you and your opponent are building one team to take on a host of other teams.
2) this is a set format, where you can switch pokemon at the sacrifice of a turn.
I think this team would really struggle against two strategies.
A) another weather based team.
B) an entry hazards team.
I'd say you definitely need a spinner for stealth rock, and might want to focus ninetales more on a defensive build. Especially for when you want to win the weather war.
Further, these pokemon are picked on a damage-out basis, and don't actually consider damage-in. I can't possibly imagine ever making a safe switch into a fire, steel, rock, or fighting type move. This means you really can't do much without sacrificing a 'mon...
Most teams are built on a couple sweepers, backed by a team that can keep them safe until you can clear out the biggest threat(s). Good stuff works, but if you can't protect your guys, you'll just get out manuevered.
i feel like the theorycrafting in this team just boils down to "well game freak has been trying to make ice types more defensive with aurora veil existing and the hail rework so that means the team should be focused entirely on setting hail and slow defensive mons"
oh yeah and on the subject of other weather teams countering it, well
the way you worded it implies other weather based teams and not specifically teams using other weathers
i'll assume it's intentional because of a certain hail abuser existing
Sandslash-Alola @ Expert Belt
Ability: Slush Rush
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brick Break
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance
@@specs.weedle yeah. This would struggle against another snow/hail team as well as any other weather team
I just got finished playing through This Gym of Mine as an Ice type leader and more than half of my team matches yours, which makes me feel very accomplished.
You didn’t take advantage of the freeze effect. Cool video! Note that you should look at the regi stats for a reference on what game freak wants for each type.
Cuz thats such an inconsistent status.
Step 1 on making an ice type gym: make it doubles for double blizzard spam. That freeze chance would happen at some point.
You are currently going in ascending order of my favorite types, I hope for poison next
personaly I like the Idea that a gym leader balences their team around 1 or 2 stratagies instead of just using a group of good pokemon as they like you said are there to show off the type and be among the better trainers you come across
Simply picking the best of the type isn't enough. I like the idea of the team taking advantage of what that type can do and what makes them special is fantastic.
7:19 There's mistake, ice shard is 40 base power and 100 accuracy
whoops! the best part is that I did it twice lol
@@shepskydad yeah xd
Best thing to watch when trying to cool down
Ice is my favorite Type, so It's nice to see videos on the ice type.
Early into competitive VGC, before the paradox Pokemon were legal, I built a team focused around cetitan slush rush. He was a menace. Tried using it after each new season and he's fallen off. Now I think about it, I should update the team and see if I can still use him.
As you were going through your picks, I went “So next it’s gonna be Froslass, right? One of the most iconic Ice Types?” only for you to bring out CRABOMINABLE of all Pokemon lmao. Great video, it’s fun to see what picks you would make for a gym!
TBH i think the focus on snow was a liiiiitle much just because ice mons were so bad without snow that it’s identity has become that of bulk + good physical attack rather than like setting up. I think water with rain is fine because it has actually good synergy but with ice just bc it’s there doesn’t mean it’s good.
New vid babyyyy!
I definitely prefer the way you’re doing it where each teams is focused on the strengths of its type as a whole, rather than the best Pokémon of its type.
7:22 ice shard shows what icicle crash is
"Between Freeze-dry and our theid move: Surf, we hit every pokemon in the game for neutral or super-effective damage"
Shedinja: "Allow me to introduce myself"
So PLA did introduce snow, but it functioned completely differently. It raised the Speed stat of all Ice types (they also made harsh sunlight increase the Speed of Grass types, so essentially built in Slush Rush and Chlorophyll), raised the chance of inflicting Frostbite, and raised the chance that Drowsy would prevent a Pokémon from moving
I think the non-weather Pokémon should be like the 4th or 5th Pokémon because by then the weather would have disappeared
I like weavile too much to ever exclude it but this is definitely a fascinating combo
7:19 pretty insane Ice Shard Buffs, i like it
You should do a dark type gym leader next because of how neglected the dark type is in terms of gym leader rep.
14:47 Another mistake, if garganacl have Purifying Salt ability (which is the most used ability in VGC, idk in OU), it resist ghost
Im ....pretty sure that would be intimidate, the best ability in VGC easy
@@darkestlight660hes saying its the most used ability on garganacl. Obviously its not the most used overall its on one pokemon
@@darkestlight660 ... Buddy...
Garganacl can't get Intimidate.
@@darkestlight660 i mean for garganacl
3:03 HAIL YEAH!
...wait hail is no longer in the game?
...oh, snow no
My Ice team for an in-game trainer was Alolan Ninetales + Arctovish + Mamoswine + Mr. Rime + Baxcalibur + (Mega) Glalie.
Rime wasn’t something I was enthused about putting there, but I did want the team to have a Boots spinner as a theoretical answer to Stealth Rocks (even though Rapid Spin can still be mitigated fairly easily if you just bait switch AI the right way), and of the Spin options, Rime has a fighting neitrality without having a quad weakness to a type Ice is weak to. Its speed tier is functional when factoring Rapid Spin speed boost even if hazards aren’t a factor, and it’s also the designated Focus Blaster for Rocks and Steels.
If Megas are excluded, the Mega Glalie slot could go to Weavile or Darm-Galar or whatever; my type teams were designed to all have a mega.
maybe when weather is involved just copout and make an alternate non-weather team lol
I think Traits is the best thing to focus on. It makes the battles more interesting and memorable. Best Pokemon just ends up being 'who can hit or be hit the hardest'. Valid, sure, but I feel things like Whitney's Miltank get stories passed around more than just 'Norman's 2 slackings hit me hard'. And it makes the Type Specialist more impactful. It's not just 'having pokemon with the type'. It's 'using the type to present a specific challenge'.
Crabominable was on my team during my first Alolan playthrough, I always love seeing him get some recognition
Exactly he’s the goat I will not tolerate crabominable disrespect
Awesome video like always ice my favorite type and is so COOL to see is new potential display. Please please do dark type next is my second favorite type in Pokemon
I once theorised something like this and had Abomasnow holding Eject Pack as a second Snow Warning/Veil user. Fun!
Nice thing about combining Thick Fat with Weakness Policy is that Fire attacks still register as Super Effective, despite the damage to Mamoswine being halved. Always nice to get better options to pop your WP.
Hahaha!!! One of my two favourite types!
Only need dark, now! 🎉
(And the rest of the series, obviously, but you get the excitement... 😅)
I think you should do rock type next! They seem like a very underrated type that have some unique Pokemon in it!
It would be great to see the fighting type next please 🙏
The day will eventually come when pokemon gyms have dynamic teams and can be realistically tackled in whatever order you want, so ice monotype runs that don't fully suck will get their day!
I think snow has genuinely done a lot to refine the type and it's identity. And snow even if it doesn't have perfect synergy with every ice type can still benifit all of them
I personally feel like crabominable while strong and having a good typing, is far too slow and frail to put in this team. I think something like baxcalibur with, decent speed, high hp, and even higher attack would fit well. Not to mention its thermal exchange ability would dissuade enemies from recklessly clicking fire moves lest they boost baxcalibur’s power even further
10:34 sounds like you were having fun making this video! N(ice) job!
I love Alolan Ninetales and I'm actually using one right now in an all fairy challenge run, so I'm so happy it made it on the team! Aurora veil has saved my team countless times!
Honestly, I like the idea of pseudo-weather teams for types associated with weather .
The starting Pokemon having a weather-setting ability, then the next couple of Pokemon capitalising on the weather.
Round that out with end of the team being able to operate in/out of their respective weather.
YYEEEEEESSS CRABOMINABLE LOVE
I think its a bit silly and a bit ironic that you included Crabonimable into the team to represent Ice's strong natural bulk + offensive prowess, but thus inadvertently included the weakest/frailest link into the team. Crabominable is almost infamous for being too frail and slow to do the job of bulky offense outside of Trick Room, despite what its stats would like you to think. Drain Punch without setup is just not strong enough of a move to have him function that way, cause of its awkwardly middling BP and easily/widely resisted offensive typing (Fairys, Flying and Ghost just dunk it). Sure Aurora Veil + Assault Vest would make it bulky but like, he cant supplement his bulk if things can easily switch into his Drain Punch and outrun him into a neutral (or even positive) trade. And the rest of his move doesnt provide any utility besides dmg, like a Knock Off or Sucker Punch would. I think that Froslass and Mamoswine basically does what Crabominable does already but better.
With that teamslot now up for grabs, the team here is now lacking an Ice Type represantative for what Ice is typically known for - Oppresive Offense. Think Weavile, Chien Pao, and well, the Ice Darmanitan you mentioned lol. You could argue that Crabominable represents that archtype for ice as well due to how high his Atk stat is and how wide his coverage is. But oppressive offense cant happen if youre too slow and frail to switch in for value or get multiple attacks off/set up something with massive value on a free switch. Sure, his dmg is nice. But its not choice band/scarf Darmanitan level nice. Its not Knock Off Weavile level nice. And its not Sword Dance Chien Pao level nice
So TL:DR - Although Crabominable is an understandable choice to be included into an Ice Type Gym team to represent strong natural bulk and strong offense, it in practice is the worst for this role due to needing a game changing team support (Trick Room) that the rest of the team isn't already equipped to provide nor synergize with, just to function as we intended it to in the first place. This stems from a problem of trying to meet ice type's two gimmicks of strong natural bulk and oppressive offense in the middle too much. So instead of compressing both gimmicks into one pokemon slot to represent both at once, itd be better if there was just a healthier mix of mons that leans more on one side of both ends (which the rest of the team already fantastically does, btw)
All in all, very nice list/team for an Ice Gym. I just kinda disagree with Crabominable being a good pick for the team, and wanted to go in depth with why I think so. So thank you if you (or anybody else) read this. But also like, sorry to subject ya with my rambling lol
Cetitan design process was like: If we already have a sand shark, why not an snow whale
Honestly i think the thing holding ice gyms back is that they are usually one of the last gyms so by the time you reach them you usually have one of the very common weaknesses some of which dont have a weakness to ice themselves
The ice gym leader from scarlet and violet, was honestly, my toughest gym battle ever
14:45 Pictured here, notorious non-ghost resist Garganacl
hey he was just thinking of the 4 people who use sturdy garganacl
Could be fun to add speculation about why type of gym leader would have this team. You could choose from the preexisting leaders or design your own for bonus points.
From a monotype player, you definitely want to use the weather, maybe use 1 or 2 mons that are built around the weather and utilize a "gimmick", but you have to put the top mons on the team in the end.
I've been trying this in pokemon showdown, and it works fine(in the monotype format, at least)
Hope you do Psychic next
I love how he shortens AV to ass.vest
My Ice Team has Alolan Ninetales, Mamoswine, Beartic, Baxcalibur, Lapras, and Froslass.