Should You Train To Failure
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2018
- Do you want to know if you should train to failure. Its not just a yes or no answer. You have to take in count all the variables. Watch this video and I will go over it all. If you still have questions just leave them in the comments below and I will do my best to answer them.
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mountaindog1 a video on exercise sequencing sir please..
7:14 "The lighter the load the more you need to go to failure, the heavier the load the less you need to go to failure"
The fact that your offering this content for free speaks volumes about your character. I know i’ve thanked you to death already lol but I really appreciate the information you provide.
Thank you Henry!
"i’ve thanked you to death"
soo true!
@JKItsMeAlGore potatoe
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30 plus years contemplating this topic and you made it crystal clear in 10 mins...lol Seriously thank you John!
my pleasure brother
This is the best explanation of training to failure I ever listened to. Rest in peace big man.
Hands down, the most concise, clear, no B.S. content I've watched. John
Great video. I was actually just reading up on this this week and this totally cleared some things up.
Thats why i really love your training programs!!
The content is getting better and better! Thank you Jonh!
This video was one of the best videos I´v watched on the tube ! Thanks a lot for it :)
Great explanation of all around lifting and getting results.
This is a new way to think about training to failure that I learned from this video!
Superb and spot on, hopefully everybody take this advice!
Very informative! Keep it up!
Very useful and great insight.
Thank you for these fantastic tips
Love the info John!
I've restructured my workouts around this advice. Thanks
So well thought out.. and explained.. No Time wasted in his Video's - Clearly meant to be a teacher of knowledge.
Too bad the waiting list for coaching is so long.
Quality content. Always enjoy the knowledge you have to share. Keep it up
Love your tips and advice every time you say an advice i wrote those on my notebook.
Such a great educator and role model.
Losing this man was indeed a great loss.
Great insights
I truly respect and appreciate your inclusion of science in your explanation. This was extremely helpful in my humble opinion. Great commentary.
yes always especially for body building! body BUILDING....Love you John! in all of your videos you always take a set to incredible intense levels and you go to failure! so I do the same thing...
You spent your life learning all this stuff . And it's dispensed in only minutes if people truly listen and apply what you say and see for them's self's the out come .bodybuilding is a constant change and the more understand we have from people like you the better we can become
thank you .
I just find your channel and it's almost 4 hours that i am watching your videos.
This is gold!
thank you!
always revisting the content , good job keeping the youtube up boys
excellent advice, thanx john! i notice because my bench press and my shoulder press aren't as big as i would like them to be i often go to failure even on my 3-6 rep max just to feed my own ego a little bit and hit the number of reps that i am aiming for no matter what, but i trust it might be better to get cleaner reps in rather than end the sets with real lousy form reps at total failure like i often do!
Great video,thanx💪💣💥
Excellent perspective!!
Thanks John!
Great info and excellent presentation.
A gear head that knows about the science of lifting! What a rare breed!
I'm really glad I found this channel and subscribed. Thank you for all the great information. I really appreciate it!
you bet!
Thanks, John! 😎
More than just appreciating the content you put, we appreciate the person, thanks John
THANK YOU!!!!! that means alot to me
Exhaustive and solid, cheers from Italy, you deserve much more subscribers as this channel is not bro science
Love this video john. Special thanks for the comment on training for athleticism. Love and respect to you and your family from Trinidad.
thank you!
Amwesome info, thanks
Thanks for breaking it down
One of the best minds in the fitness industry !
I sent prolly 50 people to this channel via this method of lifting.... I love failure!!! Nothing like walking up to a machine a guy is getting ready to leave and you put half the weight he lopped on there for his shitty 7 rep session.. meanwhile your twice his size and jacked like your on gear!!! John if I ever in your neck of the woods I would love to give you a hug for this method no one talks about! It’s given me my second growth jump in mass! To think at 40 I thought I was just going to be maintaining my mass and not gaining! Thank you ❤️
Again amazing and complete knowledge. Thank you so much...keep it up 😉
awesome video!
Great info mountain dog 🐕 keep the videos coming
yes sir!
I recently found your channel through watching Jeff Nippard's channel and I'm really glad I did. At 38 i am doing my best to keep up in the gym. Doing pretty well and every little bit helps. I really enjoy your content and appreciate how you use the science to back up your experience and vice versa. Also how you are knowledgeable of injuries. (As i have quite a few that I must work around daily). There aren't many guys on here that I feel I could actually trust, and you sir are one of the few. Thank you for all the content. Oh!....and tomorrow morning I'm trying your pre workout cream of rice meal. Looking forward to it!
awesome thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one of my favorite fitness channels on youtube. my go-to for when im searching for answers.
Thank you!
Great explanation thanks John!
you betcha!
Great Stuff Mr. Meadows!
thank you!
Ur vids r so helpful
Thank you Sir for this clear answer
MUSCLE MEMORY....even during down time when you don't make it to the gym for extended periods, it won't take much to regain size and strength. From personal experience, after two years off from a cars accident I was able to recover to my former level, even after substantial atrophy. Not exactly 100%, but close. Train to failure with high reps or heavy weights and low reps. Switch them up to build stamina and max heart rate.
Use a stop watch and light weights/high reps to circuit train. You won't believe the pump you get.
Yes is the answer. At 44 I am making the best gains ever by training to failure, and doing less, but despite that it is more tiring!
Ive found on lighter loads when I get close to failure rest pause works very well. I also like to stop short of the full rep and hold the load as long as possible.
More info about body building brilliant 😀😎
DY hit training and Dc training💪🏼💪🏼 like so much your channel JHON!
Great information
thank you!
I like drop sets to failure!
So do you set it up to be able to do say 40 reps in total doing this drop set with almost to failure on the 8th rep of each set of lowered weights ?
@@skatetodeath666 With drop sets, the general idea is each corresponding weight should be like 40-70% of the previous one (depends on the exercise), and then get as close to failure as you can on each weight without compromising the upcoming drop set. If you can get to 5 reps or more on each subsequent weight, then you're doing good. But if you can barely do one or two reps after picking up a lower weight, or if you do 8 reps on the first weight and pick up the second weight and can do 20, then you should re-evaluate how you're structuring the drop set.
Works great with Delts or Biceps or anything you can rapidly grab progressively lighter Dumbells..
me too
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Am I too early? 😝 loving your videos since I found your Channel, you deserve a lot more subs.
I hope people are sharing
Am I too late?
Love this guy
Good video. Good information. Keep up the great work. If I do light weights, I do 5 sets of 30 as fast as I can. Have a good day.
Hi John, when is the best time to take eaas before or after. I have been using bcaas before workout, however I feel tired when I take them. I feel I should be taking bcaas after workout with eaas. I here different information all the time. Any information would be appreciated.
Love ya john.. rest in peace 🙏🙏❤❤
Excellent video. ....👍
thank you!
When U can snatch the pebble from JM ✋. Wisdom from the Grand Master. Thank U for always bringing quality advice and tips.
you bet!
Personally find heavy lifting best for muscle growth, fat loss and overall strength increase
I think a moderate weight is best. I don't think you can get enough volume in with heavy lifting.
@@danp8309 I usually rotate every 2 weeks with a strength style program to a hypertrophy style program
Finding the opposite true. I just starting seeing massive growth doing sets of 15 reps instead of heavy sets of 5 reps
Depends on what your body best responses to! These are all correct!
...and injuries
i got you'r idea siir that's pretty cool
You have so much to learn from you John 😊👍 Thank you..
Im 60 I can honestly say that because of you and a few other's im in better shape then when I was 40 toner bigger in a good way. I may grow slower then youngers but its way better will I ever look like a body builder? Probably not but i feel way better. Thank you
Kick ass brother!
Cheers John
Another incredible video john. Because of my rotator cuff injury I found that I must be going %60-85 of my max rep and I was always doubting whether I can build muscle density this way or not! Do you think that muscle density can come without fully overloading the muscle with weight? Thanks you for the video anyways.
yes just need volume, and lighter sets to failure
I don’t think I’ve ever gotten anymore quality info from anyone else as much as I get from you. You’ve helped me a lot in my lifting journey, thank you!
Great video John, very important topic! Kindest regards Richard U.K
I agree that there's a sliding scale to this and that it all has to do with balancing out the variables. I train in the 30-100 rep range, mostly 60-100 reps, and I absolutely have to go to failure to make any gains. I also can't do more than 1 set per bodypart without overtraining because of increased central fatigue. I use a breathing tempo and a full range of motion because I've found that I don't gain as well lifting fast for partial ROM (the strength gains are illusory) and I end up injuring myself. I also have to train 6x a week whole body using those protocols; if I drop down to 3x a week, I just maintain.
Hi John, wonderful information as always thank you. Was wondering your opinion about full body workouts for people who are starting out. Is it advisable to do full body a few days a week or concentrate on each body part separately? I have a fb group and people are asking. Thank you
its good 3x a week, and keep volume down for each bodypart
Could you do video about how to plan workout. Something like how many sets,reps and which exercices choose for what reason ?
i like working up to a 1 rep max and then doing a drop set to failure. gives me the best of both worlds for strength and size.
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Miss u John ..... 😓
Hope your family is doing well.
Rest in peace Sir, you are sorely missed!
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thank you!
Thanks so much for the info, I have a question though; you mostly said that failure isn't always necessary, but is there a negative impact to mostly training to failure if its what I'm used to? By the way, your vids are amazing and so rich with knowledge.
I think 1 true failure set per exercise is good for most people..TRUE failure..
@@mountaindog1 appreciate the reply
@@mountaindog1 This makes total sense for me when I got stronger in the gym the first exercise I would aim for failure on last set then every other exercise I would have at least 1 or 2 good reps left.
Hey mountain dog i have a question for you ..what about the mike isreatel approach with mrv etc?whats your opinion on the weights in relation to the mrv theory?
RIP legend
Thanks John for sharing :) Since you are talking about load percentages, are you answering specifically more for compound exercises? Because I'm not sure how to calculate 60-80% for isolation exercises, since we probably don't even measure our 1RM on isolations? Usually, I'd just go to failure on isolation exercises. Wanted to hear your thoughts
That is correct
I do every set to failure, I set my weight to where I can only do 8 to 10 reps to failure once I do a workout were I do 11 clean reps I add weight then it goes back to 8 to 10.
Chad Thundercock your way is ok, but it takes much more time for your muscles to recuperate
Great video as always, John. Question for a Q&A, how to train yourself to grind one rep max(Or just in general)? For example, hitting a sticking point on a deadlift, but I auto drop it midway instead of "Toughing it out".
grind it out IF you can keep good form
I cannot deny your logic
Sometime working out get boring and you need to change your work out program to push your self .
Not training to failure has always seemed odd to me. I started in my teens and since then have known no better. I stopped lifting in 05 but have been back at it age 40 for the past 7 months now and loving it again. Its only been this past two weeks i have activly tried not going to failure when going heavy, as to avoid injury as my strength has come back fast, as well as size yet my bones and tendons are struggling to keep up, being older now. it still feels weird stopping short of failure but im getting used to it. there are also alot of studies out there which convinced me it wasnt vital to go to failure for hypotrophy
yea it was weird for me too....but as long as you have a few sets where you really bust ass, you'll be just fine!
Thanks John. that's what I'm finding. So long as I save it for the last set I'm fine with stopping short on failure on the first sets.
I would like to go to failure on every set too, but my middle-aged joints strongly disagree with that approach
@@nboss968 Since then I went back to doing every set to failure lol. my joints and tendons feel fine now though.
Basically ill prioritise intensity over all else. and being able to manage such, so that might mean more rests days? less weight? less volume? different exercise selection?
But I found myself not doing as much volume as I was then per workout and overall per week had me feeling fine.
As Ive always pushed the limits in terms of not only intensity but volume both together which I think as no surprise was hard on my body now being older.
So now i dont push for more volume constantly. i just train each set to failure with adequate volume so as to recover
@papaspaulding thanks for the update all these years later. Definitely still trying to work smarter as I get older. It's crazy how these videos are living on forever.
Great video!
Lets say I do a set on ~80% of 1RM, would you recommend getting the bar up (or towards you) as quick as possible in a exploding motion, OR take maybe two seconds in the concentric phase to make the load feel heavier?
Or mix it up from time to time?
Just asking since you were talking about the time that the bar travels.
Keep videos like these coming!
Stu Walker I understand what you mean. But what I mean with 80% of 1RM is exactly what you're saying, as fast as I can. But would it be benefitial to make the contraction slower? Im thinking kinda like "German Volume Training"
mikael lindo if you are already very comfortable I mean "very" used to a load like that then yes manipulating time under tension variables keeps you from being bored and gives constant variety to the muscle. 1 second up, 2 down no pause. Then as you get used to it you could gradually change to 2 up 2 down and eventually ad a pause 2-1-2.
But I would not recommend what you are asking with heavier loads, have a spotter if you can because ouf you slow the action down too long down...you may not move it back up on say a bench press
You don't have to add weight to the bar every week or 2. if you have had 2 to 3 sessions with same weight and then put more time under tension. You are activating the fibers beyond what they have just become accustomed to.
I have always struggled with this, everytime I do plyo workout I usually go to failure for 4 sets and two workout (clapping push up and jump squat).I would wake up the next morning feeling lethargic and sick.
We miss you bro.
Awesome video, i want to ask you a question, when you say failure you mean going at the point where you cant do 1 more rep with good form? arnold in his book says that you never save yourself go all the way out.
you cant recover from going to failure on every single set, that would be too much
If assisted with peds, would you increase the amount of sets to failure?
as an example. 4 sets on leg press, 6-10 reps, Heavy load, would you now consider failure on the majority?
thanks.
I used to follow athlean x I graduated to mountain dog.
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There is this missconception of the size prinicple. We know that maximum muscle activation happens over ~80% of max load per muscle fibre! That's not the same as 80% off your max load per movement/exercise. For any multi jointed exercise like bench press or squat with 80% of your 1rm. It is very likely not 80% load on the muscle because the load distributes on many different muscles and muscle areas. It's easily possible that during a 80% lift some muscle fibres are only 30% activated but others work near maximum. That's why tecnique and proper mind muscle connection are so important.
Would you put that one set to failure towards the end or the beginning of your sets?
There have been scientifically studies that showed that muscle growth is exactly the same when training with light weight or heavy weight as long as you go to failure. I do believe that you have to change between light and heavy to shock your muscle and that is what gives you the best muscle growth. Still interesting to hear your thoughts. Science is not always right...Light weight for me is 15 reps and heavy 6-8
Those studies aren’t using people who have been training properly for 5-10 years. It’s evident that a truly advanced lifter needs to go heavier to gain muscle because we know that after neurological adaption is maxed the only way you’re getting stronger is gaining more muscle