Home made watercolors from flowers and fruits
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Thank you so much for stopping by. This is the second part of my journey to learning how to capture the colour of flowers and berries and turn them into watercolours.
A quick note based on the comments I got on the last video:
This recipe can not be used for either make up or hair dye. It's water-soluble, so it just wouldn't work to color hair (sadly). And it contains citric acid. Putting acid on your skin just isn't a very good idea. Also, especially the silica version is quite gritty, which could potentially cause injury you if it got in your eyes or mouth. So try to avoid that. :)
I'll be posting updates on the colors I made on my insta. You can find me there @ pernicketygram - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I've just discovered the world of foraging for natural ingredients. Your videos have been inspirational, so thank you!
Absolutely fascinating! I need to try this :) of topic but: I am really in love with your little kitchen space shown (that wood with these color tiles is my dream!)
The witches' cookery thank you! I was so excited when I found those tiles and a few years later I still love them :)
Thank you so much this was incredibly informative! I enjoyed eating.
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Truly inspiring! Thank you so much!
Nice! I'll try this recipe some day! 💖
I love the colors of your kitchen and garden!!
Thank you so much!
This looks so cool. I really wanna try this out. Using flowers and fruits as a watercolor pigment is just so interesting. Loved the video and looking forward to future art videos. ❤️
Thanks so much 😊I hope you get to try it out. I had a lot of fun. Let me know how your colors turn out!
For the flow of your watercolors you can add oxgall, and certain pigments require different ratios of gum arabic (to correctly bind the pigment to the paper) so you can do a test with clean paper towels and rub the paper towel up against the pigment that was painted on the paper and dried. If pigment rubs off then you didn't add enough gum arabic. But if the pigment looks too shiny on the paper then that means you added to much for that pigment. Different pigments require different amounts because of how they react with things, an example would be how different roses can look different even though they are on the same rose bush.
Thank you so much for the explanation! There’s a lot to learn. Thanks for the pointers. Oxgall was recommended to me before, so next time I have some cash, I think I’ll get that.
@@michaelaschmid No problem!
What is Oxgall?
@@dr.sitaratanveer3760 Oxgall is a substance extracted from the gallbladder of oxen. I haven’t personally worked with it but it’s been recommended to me.
@@dr.sitaratanveer3760 Ox Gall is a watercolor medium that helps the flow of the watercolors and makes it bloom out easier in watercolor, or gives it a "sploosh" effect.
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She describes it really well and it's effect of what it does, as well as what it's made of and how to use it and stuff.
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This looks like so much fun! I’m going to try it out 🎨
J Reed Let me know how it turns out! 🌸
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I remember when my sister and I picked berries from our berry bushes and grind them up, strain them and add flour! We were probably 7 or 8! It was so messy and we waited so long, but they were always thrown out before they dried.
That's such a sweet memory. Kids always have the most fun when things get messy :)
Lovely watercolors & interesting experiment. I appreciate that you compared a few variations & recipes. Wonder what the difference be if you dried the flowers and turn the leaves into powder vs steam method?
*** I look around and see every day so many potential natural pigment sources yet not sure if they'd work. My kitchen is super tiny and dark. Otherwise hope to try at least making a few basic watercolors.
Great video! Thank you for sharing your experiments.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello, this is a lovely video. I was curious to find out if the flowers you painted faded over time? :)
I loved the choice of colors and your utensils make me go get new cermaics :D Also i have doubt. Will the colors give a fermented smell and whats the shelf life of these colors?
Imaya Varamban They smell slightly sour, but only if you literally stick your nose in the jar. No scent when using or on the paper. I can’t yet say how long the shelf life is since I’ve only made them last month, but so far everything’s good as long as I just make sure to dry the pigment out fully before closing the jar 🌸
@@michaelaschmid thank you so much for letting me know. Hope it stays good for a long time😊 Happy crafting ;)
I LOVE y your videos very educational and your voice is easy to listen to not boring thanks for your videos..😍
Thank you so much for this lovely comment! I appreciate it! 💕
This looks very interesting and I would like to try it somday. But since this isn't a mineral based pigment I'm worried about the lightfastness.
I remember squishing petals onto our white garden furniture as a kid, because I wanted to make it colorful. In about a week most of the colors faded or turned another color.
They are definitely not as lightfast as mineral pigment or any bought pigments. I use mine in a book to keep them away from light and the oldest ones I made about a year ago have browned a little. The pinks are still pink, but a slightly browner pink. Making watercolor from flowers is a fun experiment and for me, the fading and changes over time are part of my artwork, but if you want to make something to hang on your wall and look the same forever... not recommended :)
the vibrancy of that first pink!! I love so much. Thank you for this content - absolutely beautiful! cant wait to see what I can come up with from these tips and how tos! I wonder what it would be like to dry the flowers and then make a power from them? Have you tried that at all?
When you try any of the how-tos, let me know how things turned out and what you came up with! So far I haven’t tried using ground up dried petals as pigment, but it’s definitely a plan for the summer :)
Thank You 💕
I will experiment.
Your videos are so wonderful!
You are so kind
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Your videos are so relaxing
Glad you like them!
Does this technique work for all kinds flowers?
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I think I would still go with the silica over gum Arabic if your making a more pigment pigment. Gum Arabic is used in making water colors and gouache primarily, even if it dried down into a powder pigment, it wouldn't flow as well. The less gum Arabic the more it flows and easier it rewets but less likely it is to stick and not rub off from the page. The more gum Arabic the more water it needs to be rewet and less flow it has. Theres a little "sweet spot" of enough to stick to the page but not so much it wont flow. I really wanna try this myself to see if making the silca based pigment would effect how it interacts being mulled with gum Arabic. Thank you for showing your learning! I can't wait to see more.
Clarifying my ramble: I wouldn't want a gum Arabic based pigment because it would take out the "fine tuning" you can do with gum Arabic because your already starting with so much. Plus you'd really only get to make watercolors with it. A non gum Arabic based paint could make soft pastels, oils, ect.
Yeah, you’re definitely right. The gum Arabic doesn’t flow as well, but it is (so far) the only way I found to make “clear” or non-pastel colours. The silica flows and rewets much easier but since silica is white, all the colours are more or less pastel. But other people suggested mixing oxgall in with the gum Arabic based color to make it flow better. I have not tried it yet, but that might give you more space for flow and fine tuning that the gum Arabic took out :)
@@michaelaschmid I would also suggest mixing a tiny bit of honey or vegetable glycerin into the paint, they would help it rewet quicker. Thank you for responding! I do understand now why you would go for gum Arabic over silca.
The recipes I've seen so far with gum Arabic have honey and clove oil as well. I wonder if that would help with the flow?
@@Iwanttodrawachicken honey and vegetable glycerin are more or less interchangeable, and do help the flow, clove oil is often put in binder as a preserving agent, you could also swap clove oil for some vitamin c powder as it also would help preserve
how long is it going to take if we evaporated the pigments in the oven instead naturally?
Could you use citrus fruit juice in place of citric acid?
Do you have a link on Amazon for the alaum?
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may I ask where you learnt all this from. Is there an online resource you used? I cannot wait to try make this myself
There's many great articles and blog posts online for various ways to make paint, but the best way to learn is trial and error. The "ingredients" are mostly from the garden and what I didn't grow myself I bought fairly cheap either at the supermarket or the hardware store and the exact amounts I played around with until I achieved the consistence and color I wanted. I hope you try and play around with making color because it really is such fun :) To start I'd suggest making inks since they are quite quick to make and you can try them out right away. :)
What are the other alternatives for gum arabic?
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Since it has been a while since you’ve started doing these experiments, how have you found the colors to alter or fade over time? Considering using these techniques for some art projects.
They definitely change. There’s been some browning and slight fading. It still looks nice (imo) but if you’re looking for something to stand the rest of time, I’m afraid this isn’t it :)
@@michaelaschmid im also curious about this. would UV glass prevent the fading/browning? I m interested for it to last at least 2 or 3 years
would a archival fixative spray help as well?
Can i use this color on fabric
hi there! lovely video :) could I used dried flowers as a powder pigment and then mix with a mixing medium to make a paint? I have some dried rose petals stored away from last summer
Sam Walker Hi Sam! That’s a really interesting question but I’m afraid I don’t have an answer for you right now. I’ve never tried making paints out of dried petals but I’ll read up and try to find out how/if that works
@@michaelaschmid thank you so much! I'm doing some research too but I thought I'd ask someone that might have experimented already
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I don’t know if you said this, but did the alum make a difference or not?
Oh, sorry, I should have made that much clearer. The alum makes a huge difference! It makes the color more intense, especially over time. Without alum it gets noticeably paler after a few weeks, with alum it’s much more steady!
This is so interesting. I just got a bunch of purple grapes I would like to try this with. How are the paints holding up now after a year and a half?
Hi! Sorry for the late reply. They are holding up surprisingly well (last time I saw them anyways. I mislayed them in autumn, but I have hope i'll find them again) There was some browning, noticeable but not it didn't ruin the piece and much less fading than I expected.
@@michaelaschmid Thank you for the reply. I will try this the next time I get a ''bunch'' of grapes :)
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By the way, if i wanted to put this on the oven how much time do i have to wait?
Also sorry for my english not a native english speaker
To evaporate it on the stove? I can’t give an exact time since I haven’t tried it, but if you put it in a water bath on low heat, it should be done in a couple of hours. But make sure to check on it repeatedly and refill the water bath as needed.
You probably mentioned it already but which key ingredient did you use to keep the colors from browning?
A chemist would be better at answering this question, but as far as my experiments go, the combination of acid plus the alum keeps the colours nice and bright. This works best for reds and purples, but you’ll run into trouble with blues. The blue pigment when combined with an acid turns into a muddy green. So far blue pigment is a mystery to me, but I’m working on figuring it out. Wish me luck :)
Thank you! Me and my friends are conducting a science project/experiment about this particular topic. Goodluck to you and I'll support your channel! ❤️
@@veox. Welcome! Good luck for your experiment and thank you for the support 🌸
when i experiment with this for myself, i plan on trying to add an antioxidant used in cosmetics like vitamin e :] but i’m not totally sure how well it’ll work and if i’ll need to add a solubilizer for it to evenly mix with the water based mix
In the video you said that you could use a stove to evaporate the liquid, do you know what tempurature and time to use to do that.
On the stove use low heat and use a water bath for gentle evaporation to preserve the color. It’ll take hours (and hours and hours), but quicker than waiting for it to air dry.
@@michaelaschmid Thank you very much.
Do you think not using something like alum would have serious effect?
The color won’t be as intense and less lightfast. But it’s worth a try just using an acid (eg citric acid or vinegar) and a thickener (like gum Arabic or corn starch) if you don’t want to use alum.
Again, the color won’t be as intense, but you will get some color payoff without alum :)
I can't believe I found this video only five hours after its posted!! Just as I was looking up how to make paint from flours?
Roger Brown Great minds and all that :)
@@michaelaschmid yeah! I found the original one first! Sadly I have none of these ingredients except the flowers and water!
is it possible to use dried petals? i imagine fresh to be the choice of predilection
it is possible, but it depends on the petal. Most will brown quite significantly (all I tried so far gave a very muddy, brownish pigment) but if you can find a vibrant dried petal, it's definitely worth a try. look at the petal and discard any parts that turned brown and use only the very colorful parts for the best results.
To test the colors, boil the petals in a little water with half teaspoon of citric acid. Simmer for ten minutes and then strain, the "tea" (don't drink) you get from that will be pretty true to the color you get in the end, so you can see if it's worth the effort to keep going. Citric acid is quite inexpensive, so it's not too big an investment of time and money at this point.
Natural pigment is (in my experience) always a bit of an experiment, so I'm afraid I can't give a definitive answer on.... anything, but experimenting is fun, so I hope you try it out and let me know how things worked out! :)
hello! great, thankyou. Could you share what the outcome was of the lightfastness in the past year of your post it test? thankyou
Hi! I'll post a current picture tomorrow on the community tab (remind me if I forget) Regarding archival spray and UV glass that you mentioned... I've never used either, but I'm planning a trip to the art supply store later this month and I'll try and talk to someone there and maybe, if they have it, buy it :) I had never even heard of archival spray, so I'm actually really excited for the possibilities.
@@michaelaschmid can you still send the updated photo of the flowers you painted to see the result of th lightfastness? thankyou
@@dagmarvanweeghel1891 hi! Sorry for the wait. So… a couple of months ago I was cleaning and I remember sticking the piece of paper with the light fastness test in a book, for safe keeping while I was cleaning. … I have shaken out every book I thought might hold it and I can’t find it. I haven’t given up yet, but it might be a while until I chance upon it again.
As I remember it: there was some browning in all areas, not enough to ruin the piece, but noticeable when comparing it to a photo of the original color. The places that were exposed to light did fade, but overall I was surprised how well it held up.
I’m still looking for the picture and I will add a comment here when (not if hopefully) I find it :)
Can we put gum arabic before boiling?
You can, but watch the temperature since it burns easily and it’s more difficult to clean the pot after, so I add it later :)
Can you put honey /aloe vera
if you had a list of basic ingredient list for this type of stuff, what would it be?
There's many different ways to make dyes and paints, but the way I do it you'll need an acid (I use vinegar or citric acid) a mordant (I use alum) and a thickener (either gum arabic as in this video or silica for making pastel colors) These are my basic ingredients and so far they've served me well. I haven't experimented much beyond these ingredients so there might be way better ways that I have yet to discover :)
@@michaelaschmid Thanks so much :)
if you use destiled water makes any diference ????
_ Soy I’ve not used destilled water for this before, but it’s an interesting idea. I’ll definitely try that in future
Can u tell me those colors can use on lips ?
No, I’m sorry. It’s not safe to ingest and isn’t good for your skin. Only use on paper :)
is it also possible to make it into paint and not watercolor? Love your videos!
I assume so, but I've never tried it. Because oil paints are pigment plus linseed oil, that should work with these pigments as well. I have no clue about acrylics though. After drying you could use a grinder and pestle to make a powder and then add oil. (again, this is a guess, I've never actually done it) If you decide to try it out, please let me know how you got on!
Not an expert, but the binder for acrylic is an acrylic polymer mixture with pigment suspended in it. Idk if it is safe to do at home
@@michaelaschmid i really like the idea of making your own paint, and we have some linseed oil at home. if i can get the supplies ill definitely give both a shot! i personally dont know how well oil would work as the pigment is created by using water, so if there is any water left in the pigment i severely doubt its ability to mix with oil into an oil paint
The grape paint started out as jelly or jam.
Try mixing Ox skull it might help with the dispersion of the color of your watercolors.
Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely look into that.
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What is Ox?
Ox skull?
@@dr.sitaratanveer3760 it's like a liquid that helps pigments scatter or move better.
That's Ox Gall, not skull. Hope that makes it easier to find! Thank you for these videos, I have really enjoyed them & hope to try it myself when the flowers come again 😊 Stay safe & happy xXx
hello ☺️ nice to watch ur video, but i hope you can write the ingredients in description please 😘 thank you
The citric acid is causing the paint to not flow easily. Try using honey.
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This is a complete waste of time, effort and money. Those colors are not even 'fugitive'. They are extremely fugitive. They will fade away even in darkness. And no, they're not even close to "lightfast". If they had been, they would have been part of our cultural heritage, just like Weld, Woad, Madder, Kermes, Gamboge, Cochineal and other, which aren't lightfast either, but so immensely much better than flowers and berries, that they weren't abandoned even before advent of the bronze age, and people would pay money for them well past the medieval ages.
I'm confused. I found a reply in my mailbox, but it's gone here? Well, never mind if you deleted it.
Anyway, I guess I didn't find any other way to express what was on my mind. But actually, it's of course not a "complete waste of time". That's nonsense. Having a hobby and learning things is never a waste of time. As for the durability, well, you'll eventually find out that they aren't particularly permanent.
You're making laked pigments, which I gather you already know. On making watercolors, you want a couple of other additions to just gum arabic.
You also need something that makes your dry watercolors easily dissolvable. That something is a mix of hygroscopic sugar (use honey, it's easiest) plus glycerine. Take it easy. One part to five parts gum arabic as a start.
"Ox gall" as someone mentioned, increases the wetness and flow of the watercolor. You need very little. Actually even none, it's a matter of taste. There is both synthetic "ox gall", (wetting agent) and natural. It's available in art material shops. I only use synthetic though. Synthetic probably has a longer shelf life.