This poam is not healing to your heart…the Quran is..dont make your same mistakes from Christianity in Islam…this is just a poem from a scholar nothing else..it has no healing to the heart ..but the Quran does… al-Fussilat, 41:44, which says, "And declare (O Muhammad) that [the Quran] is a guidance and healing for the believers". Another verse that mentions the Quran as healing is Surah Israa, verse 82, which says, "We send down the Quran as a healing and mercy for the believers, but it only increases the wrongdoers in loss".
No mater what question you ask them, they will give you answers that even they themselves don’t believe in… bc it is not the eyes that are blind, it is the heart that is resisting to believe
they prolly answer it like this "only the "human" form died, not the "God". because you know they treat their god like some sort hercules half human half god.
@@rayhanmuhammadputra4276 the point of jesus's death is the divine sacrifice for the sins of humanity. Them claiming it's the human who died, then there is no divine sacrifice, therefore their argument falls flat on its face.
@1SteveSmith " He is Allah-there is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him: Knower of the seen and unseen. He is the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. He is Allah-there is no god except Him: the King, the Most Holy, the All-Perfect, the Source of Serenity, the Watcher ˹of all˺, the Almighty, the Supreme in Might, the Majestic. Glorified is Allah far above what they associate with Him ˹in worship˺! He is Allah: the Creator, the Inventor, the Shaper. He ˹alone˺ has the Most Beautiful Names. Whatever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him. And He is the Almighty, All-Wise." Quran
Allah almighty said : { The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.} If they were gods, they would be self-sufficient, needing neither food nor drink, cause god is the Self-Sufficient, the Praiseworthy.
This is reductionist. Why would you determine the worth of someone solely by their basic biological functions? Adam "went to the bathroom," while the angels don't, and yet the angels were commanded to prostrate to Adam, not the reverse: Q. 2:34.
I am a Muslim and I agree with this poem, but it doesn't directly address the Christian rebuttal that Jesus as God has "two natures," one man and one God. Of course, the Muslims can refute this so I would be interested in a poem that specifically treats that response because that is what the Christians will say, that we are uninformed of their doctrines.
@@handfuloflight yeah but that doesn't even need refutal because if you just stare at it for 5 seconds it just refutes itself as in God was God and then he de-divinified him self and died on the cross and the got re-divinified which is kinda really weird and makes you unsure is God always God (i.e Really God) or not?
@@handfuloflighthow about this they say jesus (A.H) sacrifice his divinity for the sins of the human then they say that their human form died it's 2 contradict things so which is is divinity or human it makes zero sense
A truly powerful and jaw dropping poem, with many valid criticisms that dismantle the Christian narrative. Their blindness is beyond their empirical, it’s within their hearts.
Christianity teaches that God is both perfectly just and perfectly merciful. For justice to be upheld, sin must be accounted for. Forgiveness without justice would undermine God’s holiness. Example: A judge cannot simply ignore a crime without violating justice. Similarly, God addresses sin through the cross, where justice (punishment of sin) and mercy (forgiveness) meet. Role of the Mediator: Jesus, as both God and man, bridges the gap caused by sin 1 Timothy 2:5: For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. (Philippians 2:6-8) explains that Jesus “emptied Himself” of divine privileges and took on human nature to redeem humanity. I'll say you can rationalize anything at the end of the day. Just because you view God as being so mighty that He couldn't come into His own creation, you're actually putting a limitation on Him. I don't know, it seems like kind of ignorant thinking if you're speaking theologically.
there's no forgiveness nor justice in christianity to put it into perspective, one day a naughty child of yours broke your neighbor's window the only justice (according to christianity) is that as the naughty child's parent you Must Pay for the broken window it'd be one thing if your neighbor is poor, lacking in money and everything but what if your neighbor ain't lacking in money? what if your neighbor is a pretty generous person who ain't lacking in money? all you and your naughty child do is just sincerely asking for forgiveness no payment required since your neighbor is a pretty generous person who ain't lacking in money And that's God, the All generous, the All forgiving no payment required no bloody satanic ritual on the cross required
i can never disagree with you saying Allah ﷻ is All forgiving and Most generous, but how can you say that its unfalsifiable that Allah ﷻ cant be All knowing? (I read your reply from a different comment) and just to be clear i am muslim but if i may ask, what is your faith?
@@destinyup1710 for example; you're claiming to be Harry Potter's big fan, how can we verify the credibility of your claim? verification is only possible between 2 individuals that *are at least,* comparable in knowledge which means only fellow Harry Potter's big fans who can verify the credibility of your claim as "Harry potter's big fan", every Harry potter's big fan naturally has comparable knowledge about Harry Potter meanwhile God is incomparable, nobody can verify any of his claims the All powerful nobody is All powerful as God to verify it the All knowing, nobody is all knowing as God to verify it and so on
A rule : If something eats, sleeps, gets hurt, gets overpowered, doesn't know something, or already dead, or got created before not existing.Then it can't be a God, therefore, it isn't worthy of getting worshipped.
@@ricsi6444 if you're talking about Jesus -peace and blessings be upon him- then no, being sinless doesn't mean anything. I mean babies are sinless aren't they! Does that mean they're gods? Also in your religion jesus didn't overpower everyone, didn't he get crossed?? Nails pinning him? Wasn't he crying?
@@ricsi6444🙄 you can be sinless and not being God. We call God who is One, because there is nobody who share with Him His nature. You know that Jesus put Holy Spirit above himself in holiness, and he put his Father above himself in power. So your premise is not valid.
Islam is truly wonderful and simple to learn about. Believing in One God and praying to Him alone is the most important thing in life. I hope you find peace and satisfaction. Have a great day.
@@Jana-ne6km Thank you, that's very kind of you. There is definitely a lot of wisdom that I take from the things I learn about Islam. Have a great day and peace to you too :)
@@l.raq1 Thats such a lovely thing to hear, we need more open minded people like you :) I invite you to read some of many beautiful chapters in our holy Quran, ias i'm sure you'll love them!!!. Surah Duha, Surah A'la and surah ash shahr. They're pretty short but are definitely some of my favourites
@@mathewpt4478 Are you sure, you are not worshiping 3 gods? I count the father, the spirit and the son, hmmm let me do basic arithmetic, 1 +1 +1 =? 1. My bad, it seems like, 1+1+1 does not equal 3, instead it is equal to one. Thanks for waking me up from my deslusions. How does three different entities equate to one? Unless those entitties are somehow part of another singular entity, but then again who ist that entity? I guess it is time for you guys to invent new stuff as to who this new all encompassing entity could be. I am eager to see a unique branch of christianity emmerging with a new god. xD, all it takes is adding a few verses into the bible, and after a couple of hundred years, a couple of powerhungry guys will establish a new version of christianity, just like they did back then, as they established the concept of trinity ca. 300-400 years after jesus' alleged crucifixion.
@@xx-rt2hs The English translation translates strong and powerful Arabic words to simple English words because the lack of these meanings in the English language. one simple example is the first word in the second part in 1:00, يًدبر. It's translated to manage, but in Arabic it has more meanings like managing 'wisely'. and so on. one Arabic word has multiple meanings in it, but when translated to English some meanings are dropped because English doesn't have words to fit the Arabic word. This is kinna what I know and I might be wrong 😅
Among them are those who will open their eyes, and ponder. Among them are those who will seal their hearts, and be among the disbelievers. May Allāh reward ibn Al-Qayyim for his efforts.
4 minutes and almost 30 seconds AND he made it rhyme. edit: guys, I'm hinting at how weak the foundation of Christian belief is, I'm not talking about poetry in and of itself. basically you're cooked if a man can take down the very core of your age old religion in 4 mins while making it rhyme.
@@allergictohumansnotanimals5671 Oh boy then i suppose you didn't know Ibnu Al Qayim had an even bigger poem that reaches to more than 200 parts and he still made it rhyme, it's called "Al Kafiyah Al Shafiyaa"
@@1SteveSmith المسيح ولد في الصيف بدليل إنجيل متى أما ما تحتفل به هو عيد إله الشمس هالو عيد إله أجدادك من الوثنيين الرومان و هناك أختلاف عن عام الميلاد عيد كم وثني ظهر بعد المسيح عليه السلام بأكثر من 300 مئة عام
استغررررررب والله!!! بزعمهم ذبح سيدنا عيسى عليه السلام بسكين(عمود) ،،،، هل سأقدس سكينا(عمود) ذبببح به عيسى عليه السلام!!!!! أم سالقيه في المزابل!! لتعذيبه عيسى عليه السلام!!! صلوات الله وسلامه على سيدنا الحبيب المبارك كلمة الله ❤عيسى عليه السلام❤،، ،
I wish he included how did the angel of death dare snatch this powerless gods soul And who looked after his soul after it was taken out And how did the water stand still not drowning his enemies And how did the air not be a storm saving its Lord And why didnt the God not order the heart To stop pumping the blood of his enemies Surah fatir 35:41: Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ keeps the heavens and the earth from falling apart. If they were to fall apart, none but Him could hold them up. He is truly Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving.
As a Christian, I find the way this poem was recited to be very lovely. It sounded so soothing. I love Islam and Muslim people. Even though we have different perspectives on who Jesus (or prophet Isa (PBUH)) truly was, I like that Islam values him greatly. Blessings to all the followers of Islam! ✝💕☪
*For those unfamiliar with Christianity, here is a critical yet factual summary:* Christianity is a religion based on the worship of Jesus Christ, who is regarded as both God and the “begotten” Son of God. According to Christian doctrine, Jesus is part of the Trinity, a concept that is difficult to reconcile logically: three distinct persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-are said to exist as one God (Matthew 28:19). This complex theological structure raises questions, as it introduces a paradox that has been debated for centuries, even within Christian circles. The foundation of Christian belief rests on the Bible, a collection of ancient texts written over several centuries. The New Testament, which is specifically focused on the life and teachings of Jesus, was written between 50 to 100 years after Jesus’ “supposed” crucifixion. The authors of these texts are largely unknown, and the Gospels-Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John-are attributed to individuals who never met Jesus in person. For instance, the Gospel of Mark, considered the earliest gospel, was written decades after the events it describes, raising questions about its reliability. Notably, these texts were composed in Greek, a language Jesus himself did not speak (his spoken language was Aramaic), further distancing the authors from the original events. Additionally, there are numerous documented contradictions within the Bible. For example, the genealogies of Jesus differ between the Gospels of Matthew and Luke (Matthew 1:1-17, Luke 3:23-38). In some instances, discrepancies occur even in fundamental events, such as the accounts of Jesus’ resurrection, where the number of angels at the tomb and the sequence of events differ between the Gospels (Matthew 28:2-6 vs. Luke 24:1-4). Scholars, including Christian theologians, have acknowledged these “copyist errors” and inconsistencies. Bart Ehrman, a leading New Testament scholar, writes extensively on how scribal changes and errors have shaped the Bible as we know it today. These contradictions challenge the Bible’s claim of being divinely inspired and inerrant (2 Timothy 3:16). If an all-knowing and perfect God is behind the Bible, why are there so many textual errors and contradictions? Even prominent Christian leaders acknowledge that the Bible has been subject to human error over centuries of transmission. Furthermore, despite these issues, many Christians remain unaware of them. Studies show that a significant portion of Christians, particularly younger generations, are not deeply engaged with their religion. According to a Pew Research Center study, the number of Americans who identify as Christians has dropped substantially over the past decade, with a marked increase in those claiming no religious affiliation. Specifically, the study found that 17% of Christian Americans now say they never attend religious services, up from 11% a decade ago . This trend is particularly pronounced among younger generations, where a Lifeway Research study shows that 69% of teenagers who leave church during young adulthood do not return. The study highlights a growing disinterest among young people regarding Christianity, suggesting that many view it as irrelevant to their lives . This detachment raises the question of whether it’s wise to adhere to a faith tradition that many of its followers do not fully understand or critically examine. In light of these facts, it becomes difficult to justify following a religion without scrutinizing its foundations. Christianity’s reliance on ancient texts with questionable origins, numerous contradictions, and minimal engagement from its modern followers suggests that a deeper investigation is necessary before accepting its claims at face value. *The Studies:* www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/ research.lifeway.com/2019/01/15/most-teenagers-drop-out-of-church-as-young-adults/
(2) No mater what question you ask them, they will give you answers that even they themselves don’t believe in… bc it is not the eyes that are blind, it is the heart that is resisting to believe
This is the most important comment. If you want to go to heaven after death, become a Muslim how? That's it Say this and believe it: I testify that Allah is the only God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God😊
I spit on your proposal. The Islamic heaven is a disgusting hedonistic fest. Islam's shallow concept of Jennah is enough to make you reject, in addition to a whole host of other problems.
I’ve always been puzzled by Christianity. Whenever I ask questions or read their scriptures, I never get a satisfying answer. Is God supposed to be God, or is He Jesus? And if He’s Jesus, why would they kill Him and then wearing the cross? Isn’t it strange to take pride in the death of God?!
@@1SteveSmith God should be infinite, He never dies. He could forgive without having his own child, Exalted be God from what you attribute to him, to be tortured and nailed on a cross. Wake up, brother! God NEVER, and should NEVER die.
Read quran you will find all your answers there for example allah said in quran English (Saheeh International): (59) Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allāh[127] is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
Allah knows whats in themselves if he sees anything good in a person who wants to seek the truth than varily allah will show him his signs . While the arrogant will go further in disbelief even after the truth came to him . His disbelief will make him forget himself of that he neglected the truth was the cause of it...
@@yusufazizi319I ask for your permission from you to use your videos. I ask for your permission, that I may alter the English subtitles into my own language, so that it reaches a wider audience. I promise to credit you, and by Allah, I promise to keep the text literal and without adding or subtracting anything from it.
@MAHMED-s6h While Jesus was in the Quran, and Muslims do believe Him to be a servant of God, Jesus was not Muslim. Jesus, even if He didn’t teach that He was God, which He did according to historical evidence, would have been Jewish. If He taught Islam, He would be a slightly controversial figure, since the God of the Hebrews is different from Allah personality-wise. Instead Jesus was a super controversial figure because He was teaching that He was their God! And it sounded crazy because to most of the Jews, whose prophets have split seas, Jesus was just a dude. Like their track record was crushing buildings and splitting seas and salt airstrikes, but the messiah they were waiting for came as just a regular guy? Jesus was very controversial because of that. And the those that saw Him transmute liquids, teleport, and tell the sea to calm down, they knew He was God. And then just for extra confirmation He let Himself experience death and came back and was walking around for forty days before just leaving. (Not dying, He just straight up left.) I will take the word of eyewitnesses who saw Jesus come back to life than the word of a man 500 years later who was not only pagan, but lived nowhere near the site of the events he comments on. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
First of all, Christian logic is not Muslim logic. For Christians, it’s the understanding of the Trinity and the sacrifice of Jesus for salvation. In Islam, it’s the oneness of God and the rejection of any divinity attributed to Jesus. Mixing both religious beliefs only causes confusion. I mind my own religious business and don’t concern myself with others🤷🏻♀️
It is so funny that all Christians in comments are commenting weird things and insulting themselves instead of answering these questions Like babies, when they dont have anything to say they just scream and cry
Simple answer: Jesus has a body, so its fully a man, and hes god meaning hes fully god too. Thats why he has to eat drink etc. And thats why he can do miracles. And about the crucifiction, he could made it to not get hit even once, but it was his choice to remain silent, and carry the cross and die. To show his merciness to its people no matter what they do, he forgives
So ypu mean you can't perform miracle if you're not God? And If you mean that, my question is this moses, Abraham and other prophets perform miracles so they also God?
how do you manage to unite two and many more contradictions. Assume we have an entity called µ, µ can contain all attributes as long is is not contradictory, for example µ can contain 2*2 = 4, or 2+2 = 4 but also trivial things such as 1= 1, but not something like 1=2. Basically if things complement eachother then fine, but if they contradict each other then it cannot exist. For example a triangle can only exist if it has exactly three edges and vertices, any more than that than you will have something else. Likewise a circle cannot be a sqaure, and vice verca. Now, let's take it a step further, and say this entity µ contains attributes such as: almighty, eternal, immortal, omniscient,omnipotent, all-powerful and so on. But, the moment we assign the entity an attribute like weak, ignorant, powerless, impotent and so on, we will have made a griveous logical error, because by definition : -> if you are weak, you can not be powerful -> if you are powerful, then you can not be powerless, -> if you are omnipotent, by all means, you will certainly not be impotent. -> likewise if you are omniscient, the you will not be ignorant or uninformed In all honesty, if you believe that these contradictions can be united in an entity, then there is certainly no hope for you left, and it will be my loss for wasting my time. But in case you followed along the points mentioned above, then i ask you how can Jesus (AS) be powerful and powerless at the same time? How can he be omniscient and ignorant at the same time? Don't give me : - "but he was concieved without a man" , what about Adam (AS)? - "he has two natures, fully god and fully human." is a sqaure also a circle? how do you unite the contradictions. - "but he perfomed miracles " --> there were others capable of mircales too If something in it's core has logical error, let alone contradictions, then it can not be true, let alone exist. Likewise for mircales done through things beyond our power or understanding,it is not impossible to perfrom as long it is logically feasible. For example parting of the sea, in case of Moses (AS), it is possible. Healing the blind, it is possible, even with our current scientific understanding. If in the distant future people with blindness are cured, or mankind has achieved longevity, does that mean we have achieved godhood? The answer is a resounding NO! Because death is ultimately part of nature, part of the universe, it is one the laws that governs the universe, even the universe itself will not escape it's clutches, when max. entropy is reached. You see the combining of natures and attributes leads to a logical error and therefore your belief will come crumbling down, like a domino. If god's nature is not clear and full of logical errors and contrdictions, even though the base system of the universe and nature is logic itself, then something is not adding up, because the universe with it's laws and intricacies is designed perfectly. But the designer and creator of such a construct cannot even make himself known to it's creation without making mistakes and contradictions in introducing himself? Hmmm........ That is certainly not possible, and against common sense. Therefore it is not true, if it goes againt the base system, upon which the all things are based. If you say that God's nature is a divine mystery, you are just merely sidestepping the question, sorry then you don't know who god is and are certainly not on the right path. Assuming that from day one God's message has always been the same, there is only one true god, never changing, until the christian paganism destroyed it with it's logical inconsistencies.
Okay so I only watched the first minute so far but here’s the answer for that section, dealing with the death of Christ. So while God did experience death as Christ, He was not necessarily “dead” since Jesus’ spirit was still alive. You can’t physically kill a spirit, they are immortal. And even if He had died, remember God exists as a trinity, so even if Jesus was somehow truly dead even in spirit, God still stands, which I now realize would create an insane paradox that clearly cannot be, so it’s good that Jesus didn’t die in spirit and create that paradox. As for “was he pleased with dying or was he upset-“ He wasn’t pleased with dying, it was pretty terrible what He went through, but He let them do that because God loves us enough to be tortured and die for us. Jesus even said that they can only harm Him because He let them. So TLDR for the first minute: God allowed Himself to be physicslly, not spiritually killed, and even though He wasn’t pleased with dying, He did it because He loves us. Praise Jesus, the merciful lord.✝️❤️
If he stayed alive while dying then he didn't die for you sins and therefore the christianity's narrative that says he died for you sins simply becomes a lie, Unless ofc no Christian on the face of the planet knows the definition of "death", Not to mention how ridiculous it is to say that he died but stayed alive because he has two natures blah blah blah... Wake up please for you sake.
@barry_wastaken The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines death as: the irreversible cessation of all vital functions especially as indicated by permanent stoppage of the heart, respiration, and brain activity. Now I’m pretty sure Jesus went through that. He suffered and experienced death for us. His soul wasn’t deleted. That’s like saying there is no afterlife because you’re just dead. Making sense now? You seem very confident in your claims but I pray that you find the answers in Christ and not the lies of the world. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
@jonascarlsson3 Are you forgetting the wages of sin? Sin causes death and destruction, and those who sin deserve such fates. For example: if you murder somebody, but say that you’re really sorry, are you going to be freed from your sentence? No. Sin is a moral crime, and it has a punishment, even if you are really sorry. Jesus died in our place, He experienced what we were destined for so that we can be made pure like Him. It’s, in a sense, a fair trade. A perfect man dies unjustly to pay the fee that sinful men deserve. Even though God created everything, He operates within His rules. If He needed to break His own logic of justness in order to get unclean people into heaven, then His logic is flawed, therefore He is flawed. But we all know that God is not flawed, He is perfect. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
Christianity and Islam are both beautiful belief systems. I humbly subscribe to the core values of both. I also open my mind and heart and soul to all the other thoughtful moral philosophies that recognise a deity and a peaceful intent in this mortal life.
My friend, there are no middle grounds between right and wrong. You have to choose either of the two but it is actually impossible to accept as truth both the right and wrong. The two paths completely reject each other. For example; you cannot have 2+2 = 4 and 2+2 = 5 be the same results. You have to choose whichever one is absolutely correct. You claim to accept both religions but in actuality, you are accepting neither. Because you are going against the core teachings of both.
@ well, thank you brother. In one, absolute doctrinal sense, I am sure there is some merit to what you say. Yet, I love to pray in churches, mosques, my home, chapels, on mountains, outside football grounds (inside too, on some occasions, but that’s because of the team I support!, ha.)., on canal towpaths, and I truly believe God knows what’s in my heart. I cherish my Bibles, I cherish my Qu’rans. I also seek wisdom all around me. In Shakespeare, in Mozart, in the Aphex Twin, in the work I do in arts education. In the faces and words of the checkout workers at my local supermarket, in talking to the lost souls who congregate outside the U-bahns and the Greggs (I live in the and Berlin due to my work). One thing I do not do though is tell people what or how to believe. Peace be with you.
God made the universe a sign of His existence and attributes... So where are the cosmic signs proving He’s born, turns into flesh, and gets killed? Tough one, isn’t it?
I’m refuting this entire poem 😂😂😂😂😂 1. Opening Argument: Challenging Worship of Christ Ibn al-Qayyim begins by asking Christians why they worship Christ, claiming that Jesus was merely a servant of God and not divine. He suggests that worshiping Christ is misplaced. Refutation: The Divinity of Christ: Jesus explicitly claimed divinity. For example, in John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." This statement shows equality with God. The apostle Thomas worshiped Jesus as God in John 20:28: "My Lord and my God!" Jesus did not rebuke Thomas but affirmed his declaration. Jesus is not “just a servant”: While Jesus humbly took on human form (Philippians 2:6-8), He was also fully God (Colossians 2:9: "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form"). Jesus performed works only God could do, such as forgiving sins (Mark 2:5-7) and raising the dead (John 11:25-26). 2. Claim: If Jesus Were God, He Wouldn’t Have Been Crucified Ibn al-Qayyim argues that it’s illogical for God to suffer and die, claiming this would mean humans had power over God. Refutation: The Crucifixion was God’s Plan: Jesus willingly chose to die for humanity’s sins. In John 10:18, Jesus said: "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord." His death was not a sign of weakness but of immense love and humility. God's Love and Justice: The crucifixion demonstrates God’s love (John 3:16) and justice (Romans 3:25-26). Sin required atonement, and only God could provide the perfect sacrifice. Resurrection Proves Victory: The crucifixion was not the end. Jesus rose from the dead on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4), demonstrating His power over sin and death. 3. Argument: The Cross Itself Ibn al-Qayyim questions why Christians venerate the cross, calling it an instrument of suffering. Refutation: The Cross is a Symbol of Redemption: Christians do not worship the wooden cross itself; they honor it as a symbol of Christ’s sacrificial love and the redemption He accomplished through it. Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 1:18: "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." God Turns Evil into Good: The cross, a tool of execution, became the means of salvation. This transformation highlights God’s power to redeem and bring good from evil (Genesis 50:20). 4. Argument: Jesus’ Human Limitations The poem emphasizes Jesus’ human traits (e.g., hunger, fatigue) as evidence against His divinity. Refutation: Jesus’ Humanity Complements His Divinity: Jesus became fully human while remaining fully God (John 1:14). His humanity allowed Him to experience human suffering and become the perfect mediator between God and man (Hebrews 4:15). Voluntary Limitation: Jesus willingly humbled Himself, taking on human limitations to accomplish salvation (Philippians 2:6-8). This humility doesn’t negate His divinity. 5. Argument: God Cannot Be Born Ibn al-Qayyim argues that God being born of a woman is impossible and unworthy of His majesty. Refutation: God’s Majesty is in His Humility: God’s incarnation in Jesus (John 1:14) is not a limitation but an act of infinite love and grace. The Bible teaches that God’s ways are higher than human ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). Prophecies Foretold the Incarnation: The Old Testament predicted that the Messiah would be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14) and called Him “Mighty God” and “Everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6). The Incarnation was Necessary for Salvation: To reconcile humanity with God, Jesus had to take on human form, live a sinless life, and die for our sins (1 Timothy 2:5-6). 6. Argument: God is Eternal and Cannot Die Ibn al-Qayyim claims that God dying contradicts His eternal nature. Refutation: Only Jesus’ Human Nature Died: When Jesus died on the cross, it was His human nature, not His divine nature, that experienced death. His divine nature is eternal and unchanging (Hebrews 13:8). Death Could Not Hold Him: Jesus rose from the dead, demonstrating His victory over death and His divine nature (Acts 2:24). God’s Eternal Plan: The death and resurrection of Jesus were part of God’s eternal plan to redeem humanity (Revelation 13:8). 7. Argument: Christians Associate Others with God Ibn al-Qayyim accuses Christians of shirk (associating partners with God) by worshiping Jesus alongside the Father. Refutation: The Trinity is Monotheism: The doctrine of the Trinity teaches that there is one God in three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). This is not shirk but the fullness of God’s revelation. Jesus is One with the Father: Jesus claimed unity with God in John 10:30: "I and the Father are one." Worshiping Jesus is worshiping God, not another deity. Biblical Worship of Jesus: Jesus is worshiped throughout the New Testament (e.g., Matthew 14:33, John 20:28, Philippians 2:9-11). This worship is not idolatry but recognition of His divinity. Conclusion Ibn al-Qayyim’s poem misunderstands or misrepresents Christian theology, particularly the doctrines of the Trinity, the Incarnation, and the Atonement. Each argument he raises can be refuted with Scripture and logic. The Christian faith remains firmly rooted in the truth of one God who revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, united in essence and purpose. Praise the Triune God! ✝️🦁🙏
Do you really believe yourself? And the only way to understand your perspective is through elucidation, which leads to the Trinity A̶l̶i̶e̶n̶ c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ believe - a notion that is even more perplexing🤦🤷
Lol. The guy is so ignorant that it's hilarious. First, we have a trinity. Second, we believe Jesus was fully man on Earth. Third, Jesus went to the cross willingly and laid down his life. Fourth, God was pleased with Jesus' sacrifice where he symbolised the determination a follower of christ should have. Unlike those who, by the sword, force the world to bow to their wishes.
0:17 A god who cares to give his life 0:25 No (matthew 12:36) 0:36 Also no, the sacrifice was to usher in the new covenant which God desired, albiet disliked being killed. For instance, does not a mother desire to raise children despite the pain of childbirth? 0:45 No, the human nature of God the Son died, not the transcendent nature.
a woman wants to raise kids but she must face the pain of childbirth because it is the only way she can raise children, why would a god go through somthing he hates even though he can basically not do so (he can do anything as a god).
@aboodh085 because that's how the new covenant HAD to be established. God COULD HAVE avoided being killed if he had no care for the people in Sheol, for the people under the heresy of pharesetic movement, for his children and brothers and sisters dying painful deaths every day. An act of mercy AND self sacrifice, which is why Jesus is unequivocally GREATER than the Allah of Islam.
@@hecker4342 The part about "who was running the universe when God was dead" was so stupid it beggars belief. A. The divine nature is impassible and indestructible. B. He actually thinks we believe in some kind of 'Jesus unitarianism,' when in fact we're Trinitarians. Even if the Son were truly dead, the Father And Holy Spirit would still "be alive" to run the universe.
@@ConsideringPhlebas So basically you believe that God is a sinner.. he just went on a random woman and made her pregnant. And if she was his wife then how come a creator be married to some sperms creatures? And the Son how come a son not be like his father? what kind of sons aren't like their fathers? How can a son of a god not be a god too? and if the son of a God is a God too then how come a God get hurt by one of his creations? How can iron puncture a God? like even denser metal in this world are iron proof and a creator is not iron proof? so basically your religion is based on a horny sinning God who instead of keeping his lust private up in the heavens his libido tempted him into scewing a human in earth then accidently he didn't have a condom and ejaculated the holy spirit into the poor woman then his so holy spirit are so weak that need to get fed inside his mother's belly.. but let say that's how baby gods are.. then after the so holy and divine god got out of the smelly dirty human womb he then got crucified by bunch of humans mobs who could defeat the so holy spirit that's totally not coming from a sinning god that went horny on an human vagina.. so they were able to kill son of god and then people started to worship the cross which neither the horny god nor his bastard son nor the poor woman who did nothing to get raped by a god.. hmmm so much knowledge in the christian theology. i really wanna hear more about it
if you believe that if the son dies or ceases to exist, then there is no problem, that means that there is no need for the son to exist, so what kind of a God do you believe in, since his absence makes no difference to world.
@ its just like Anti-muslim creators - they do not understand the muslim claims and so sound like bufoons when critiquing them- this happens on both sides
@@TheFoxholeLife If you actually know who God is and what he is. You will understand the point he is making. The problem is that most of the people in the world are inclined to Peganism. They just have to believe that God became what he is not or he is what by definition he can not be. The only religion that actually believe that God is what he is and he doesn’t change is Islam. Every other religion has beliefs which contradict what God is. God is uncreated and eternal, in christianity he became created and weak. God is one there cannot be any god beside him, however, Hindus believe in millions of Gods. So the problem is not that the poem doesn’t make sense, it is you people who have been programmed to think that peganism is logical by the film industry and game industry. You even call each other gods, when you are a master of something. Thats how little value u give to the name of God. It has become meaningless to you, so of course, pure monotheism will never make sense to you, because you love peganism and hate the oneness of God.
Yeah sure you know more about religions then of the biggest scholars in history. But you might have a point tho since a new church emerged long after he died.
@@acuriousmind6217 I spent pretty much my entire youth in Christianity (and a decade or so in Islam). Did your scholar spend the same amount of time studying Christianity?
@aboud3452 "when God died by the actions of the people" he died because he let himself to be Luke 23:46 KJV [46] And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
˹Remember˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to place a successive ˹human˺ authority on earth.” They asked ˹Allah˺, “Will You place in it someone who will spread corruption there and shed blood while we glorify Your praises and proclaim Your holiness?” Allah responded, “I know what you do not know.” So, how do Angels know human would spread corruption and shed blood before human being was even created by Allah? Can we say Allah is responsible for what is going on on Palestine today?
@aminmez119 the question is not about jinis, it is about the human beings, the angels already knew that the human beings to be created by Allah would spread corruption and shed blood on earth, let me repeat the question " how did the angels know that human beings would spread corruption and shed blood on earth before they were even created by Allah?
@aminmez119 so I infer that what Allah creates will spread corruption and shed blood on the earth. Then Allah is responsible for the corruption and blood on the earth.
God allowed it all as he allows us to continue breathing. As he allowed Muhammed to cross the deserts he allowed Christ to have his flesh pierced. There is no heroism without struggle and so Christ gave himself limits so he could live as humans do. Just as god tired on the seventh day, Christ was tired by each miracle he was tasked wit for his shell was still mortal. I hope these answers will do. And the cross is not an Idol.
@@driddick7361 There is a sort of language that is not be fitting for God. As a human if I say I created a hole universe it's fine as long as I dont claim the divine attribute of Creation. But If you say God was tired then on the seventh day he he rested this is a clear blasphemy.
Jesus Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords. He prayed to God during his time on earth. Even on the New Testament, it says, that only the Father knows when the Son will return, not even the Son knows. And Christians, are basically people who obey and follow Jesus Christ’s commands and teachings, which by the way, also said to follow God and his commandments. Whoever follow Jesus Christ commands are the only ones who can be called Christians. So even if you’re a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or atheist or whatever, it is on your actions and not on what you say that speaks more. But of course, words still matter because it causes people to either feel hate, anger, love, peace, etc. God is the absolute truth that can only judge everyone.
u said urself jesus pray to god during his time on earth. so to which god he pray? i mean if jesus is god why the need to pray? "And Christians, are basically people who obey and follow Jesus Christ’s commands and teachings", but most christian now do thing which not in jesus comand and teaching like not eating pork now christian eating pork, dont make a statue and yes they do, etc. most christian follow paul than their bible.
1. god died by the actions of the people because he allowed the people to kill him, he was notably displeased at his death but that doesn't mean that they overpowered god; similarly, allah is displeased when the people sin but they do not overpower him because he lets them sin 2. just because god has physically died does not mean he has ceased to exist, we all know that death is not the end of your existence and that you are to be raised at the end of days in both christianity and islam 3. god can manage the world and rule it while simultaneously being nailed to a cross because he is god, the all powerful, the omnipresent 4. the angels did not "abandon" him as he did not want to be helped by them 5. he was able to die and be carried by the planks and iron because he willed it and god's will overpowers everything 6. christ raised himself from the dead so there is no other god 7. christ existed before he took on a human body and transferred himself into the womb of mary 8. he decided to submit himself to a human life and body for various reasons, one of them being to fulfill the old testament law of sacrificial atonement 9. christians do not "worship" the cross, its a symbol and relic of our religion just like a copy of the quran is for you; also, we use it as a symbol of his sacrificial death to demonstrate how merciful and loving he is to die for us and not to literally celebrate his suffering on it
if some jews killed your god then why would humans respect him and believe he is a god if they killed him with a cross why would the humans who have now nukes believe or follow a weak thing like him
1 Why did not he take a human form without trasferring himself into the womb of Mariam, is not he the all-powerful? 2 So, he brought himself to life while being dead? 3 And who worship a God that was killed by the people he created? 4 So, angels kept worshiping someone being nailed to a cross and burred in the dirt. 5 Allah do let people sin because there is a day of judgement when he holds accountable all those who sinned. And actually, who sin, will pay for it, Allah is not harmed if you think about it. 6 So, Jesus eats and drinks ... Who brings him that food and drink. And if food vanished, would he die again? 7 do not say at the last point that he would create new food, because if he was a God, he would have made himself don't feel hungry. 8 Lastly, Peophet Isa, Peace be upon him, did not even die at that point, after hundreds of years, the Al-Qur'an Al-kareem came with real words of God, Allah, and He explained that he was not crucified, but that it was likened to them. The real sacrifice was from a believer in the Prophet Jesus, whom Allah depicted in the form of the Prophet.
لا ليس مثله إنما هذه قصيدة وجُمل منظمة وفيها لحن أما القرآن فهو كلام الله المعجز المنزل بواسطة جبريل (ملك الوحي) على نبينا محمد ، المنقول إلينا بالتواتر المتعبد بتلاوته .
Well since a lot of these questions are very simple even i can explain them without being a christian As i dont understand the trinity this explanation might have some heresies but whatever. The lord incarnated (gave himself a body in the human world) as jesus. Part of why he did this is to forgive us of our sins (through his death), as prophesised in the old testament. While he was incarnated, he was nailed to a cross, why? 1. For the aforementioned forgiving of our sins and 2. To show that they are not alone, that when they are being tortured or suffering, that god himself experienced those same things and is with them along the way. The reason we "celebrate his death" is because in that moment, he suffered for all of humanity. and by worshipping him and how he died, we remember him and can be grateful for what he did for us.
You have not answered, why should God try torment? Isn't he the Creator of it ?? Try to hear the poem again, and try to think " Jesus is a human", will it be sense enough ?
why would God need to unalive himself to forgive humanity? why would God need to send himself as a human to earth to forgive us and why would he make a prophecy like that in the first place? you don't answer none of this
Sadly poem is good but ibn qayyim drifted in belief with ibn taymiyyah. He was locked up with him too when they decided to change some beliefs of islam see the wikipedia if u dont believe me
You get your knowledge from wikipedia? Do some actual research and understand the people that you're bad mouthing. Open up their books and open up their biographies rather than reading from a wikipedia page.😂
@@muyfjbvgbvhbvunc8720 be careful calling other Muslims disbelief and know this comment maybe will be here when you're in grave, It's better you remove it and make towbah before it's too late
Yes bcz he doesnt need to prove it Its the clearest thing ever He is just asking some questions to Christians to make them think and wake uppp before its too late
Lets say Jesus is a man.. Remember Jesus spread his teachings through words and not by Swords.. so that alone is enough to silence some ignorant follower of mohammad..
And yet the Qur'an teaches us to only defend ourselves and direct ourselves for all means of peace (all Muslim wars until ummayad empire were in defence) and your bible teachs nothing but aggression against all non Christians
Alright, challenge accepted: First of all, we worship Jesus for what he did for us on the cross, we don't worship the cross itself, but rather use it to symbolize the selfless and holy nature of Jesus. And second of all, Jesus was willing to endure this life and sacrifice for us, he had all the power of God, as he is God in human form, but he controlled it for our sake. Now may God bless all of you greatly.
@Ewerewoo Jesus died to save humans from their own sins, God doesn't want people to go to hell, but all the same he doesn't tolerate injustice. So Jesus payed the price for our sins so we don't have to burn, we don't have to pay eternally. His sacrifice was the perfect plan to ensure that there is no injustice or tolerance of sin, yet simultaneously we are still redeemed.
@@biggestpoufan1727 Watch the news there is a lot of sins and injustice, and that is not fair for the evil to be redeemed without any kind of penance, aren't god should give justice to his worshipper.
@@biggestpoufan17271. why would you use the tool that you used to do the worst sin and kill your beloved god to symbolize this god. 2. even if god wanted us to just go to heaven no matter what, having to "endure" somthing he hates for the sake of anything completly contradicts the limitless unimaginable power consept of a god, if he can do anything he doesn't have to endure anything for the sake of doing anything he wants (including transforming to one of his creations as an almighty god). 3. if an all knowing god knows that one of his creations would never obey him and stop doing all of these sins even after excuting the "perfect plan" that includes him having to sacrifice things, why would he mind doing somthing about it, he doesn't need us, he is just so mercyfull to even give us ALOT of chances, if his creation still insisted on doing bad deeds, an independent powerfull god would just give this creation what he deserves. man please consider thinking seriously about this, if you couldn't justify these things you are really in danger.
“If God alone is, no testimony can be valid except His. It is hypocrisy to affirm the Oneness of Being from a point of view which itself is in contradiction with the truth, and it was no doubt to galvanise his disciples into awareness of this that Ḥallāj uttered his devastating paradox: ‘Whoso testifyeth that God is One thereby setteth up another beside Him (namely his own individual self as testifier).’ The witness must be, not the self, but the Self, which means that the soul is not competent to voice the Shahādah. All the Sufi orders are in agreement about this, though they may differ in their methods of bridging the gap between hypocrisy and sincerity.”
@@smartcookie11 standard Islamic theology doesn’t set up ‘one’; it sets up two: Allah and the person who testifies Allah is one. So in standard Islam there is two and in standard Christianity there is four (the one who testifies of the Trinity). They are both equally far from the truth. The truth is that there is only One without another to testify of Him.
I am a Christian convert to Islam. This poem is a healing for my heart alhamdulillah
Masha'Allah, may Allah always help and guide you to be on the right path ^^
This poam is not healing to your heart…the Quran is..dont make your same mistakes from Christianity in Islam…this is just a poem from a scholar nothing else..it has no healing to the heart ..but the Quran does…
al-Fussilat, 41:44, which says, "And declare (O Muhammad) that [the Quran] is a guidance and healing for the believers".
Another verse that mentions the Quran as healing is Surah Israa, verse 82, which says, "We send down the Quran as a healing and mercy for the believers, but it only increases the wrongdoers in loss".
@@sherif.1977 chill
@@sherif.1977 the poem part when it says "Jesus ate, drank water etc"
refers to what it's stated in the Quran as well
Maa Shaa Allah.❤❤❤
No mater what question you ask them, they will give you answers that even they themselves don’t believe in… bc it is not the eyes that are blind, it is the heart that is resisting to believe
they prolly answer it like this "only the "human" form died, not the "God". because you know they treat their god like some sort hercules half human half god.
They’ll probably cover it up as a: “lack of understanding of the trinity”
May Allah guide them🤲🏼
@@rayhanmuhammadputra4276 the point of jesus's death is the divine sacrifice for the sins of humanity. Them claiming it's the human who died, then there is no divine sacrifice, therefore their argument falls flat on its face.
god is mysterious
@@aiya5777 the true essence of God is unknown but godhood (god’s attributes) is as clear as it is evident, logical and empirical
islam is the most logic and clear religion
Its the truth
LORD OF LORDS KING OF KINGS CONQUERING LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH ❤
@1SteveSmith " He is Allah-there is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him: Knower of the seen and unseen. He is the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. He is Allah-there is no god except Him: the King, the Most Holy, the All-Perfect, the Source of Serenity, the Watcher ˹of all˺, the Almighty, the Supreme in Might, the Majestic. Glorified is Allah far above what they associate with Him ˹in worship˺! He is Allah: the Creator, the Inventor, the Shaper. He ˹alone˺ has the Most Beautiful Names. Whatever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him. And He is the Almighty, All-Wise." Quran
2:27 “He eats, drinks, then comes what follows -Is this a God?”
So respectful and elegant!
Allah almighty said : { The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.}
If they were gods, they would be self-sufficient, needing neither food nor drink, cause god is the Self-Sufficient, the Praiseworthy.
they even make mockery of god when they say in English "Holy 💩" they mocking god
@@sakurakou2009 unfair comparison
This is reductionist. Why would you determine the worth of someone solely by their basic biological functions? Adam "went to the bathroom," while the angels don't, and yet the angels were commanded to prostrate to Adam, not the reverse: Q. 2:34.
@ Because God isn’t constrained by humans biological limits and assuming he was is illogical.
This poem just says everything and ends every Christian argument.
I am a Muslim and I agree with this poem, but it doesn't directly address the Christian rebuttal that Jesus as God has "two natures," one man and one God. Of course, the Muslims can refute this so I would be interested in a poem that specifically treats that response because that is what the Christians will say, that we are uninformed of their doctrines.
@@handfuloflight yeah but that doesn't even need refutal because if you just stare at it for 5 seconds it just refutes itself as in God was God and then he de-divinified him self and died on the cross and the got re-divinified which is kinda really weird and makes you unsure is God always God (i.e Really God) or not?
@SamerAlhasweh I get it but if you don't refute it they'll say: "They don't actually know our doctrines" and not take you seriously
@@handfuloflighthow about this they say jesus (A.H) sacrifice his divinity for the sins of the human then they say that their human form died it's 2 contradict things so which is is divinity or human it makes zero sense
You argue with Christians while your Ummah is divided and dies at the hands of yahudi shaytans. "We are weak brother". LOL
A truly powerful and jaw dropping poem, with many valid criticisms that dismantle the Christian narrative. Their blindness is beyond their empirical, it’s within their hearts.
Christianity teaches that God is both perfectly just and perfectly merciful. For justice to be upheld, sin must be accounted for. Forgiveness without justice would undermine God’s holiness. Example: A judge cannot simply ignore a crime without violating justice. Similarly, God addresses sin through the cross, where justice (punishment of sin) and mercy (forgiveness) meet.
Role of the Mediator: Jesus, as both God and man, bridges the gap caused by sin 1 Timothy 2:5: For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
(Philippians 2:6-8) explains that Jesus “emptied Himself” of divine privileges and took on human nature to redeem humanity.
I'll say you can rationalize anything at the end of the day. Just because you view God as being so mighty that He couldn't come into His own creation, you're actually putting a limitation on Him. I don't know, it seems like kind of ignorant thinking if you're speaking theologically.
@xXxC0nSUm3rXxX1337 Where is the justice in sacrificing an innocent human?
there's no forgiveness nor justice in christianity
to put it into perspective,
one day
a naughty child of yours broke your neighbor's window
the only justice (according to christianity) is that
as the naughty child's parent you Must Pay for the broken window
it'd be one thing if your neighbor is poor, lacking in money and everything but what if your neighbor ain't lacking in money?
what if your neighbor is a pretty generous person who ain't lacking in money?
all you and your naughty child do is just
sincerely asking for forgiveness
no payment required since your neighbor is a pretty generous person who ain't lacking in money
And that's God, the All generous, the All forgiving
no payment required
no bloody satanic ritual on the cross required
i can never disagree with you saying Allah ﷻ is All forgiving and Most generous, but how can you say that its unfalsifiable that Allah ﷻ cant be All knowing? (I read your reply from a different comment) and just to be clear i am muslim but if i may ask, what is your faith?
@@destinyup1710 for example;
you're claiming to be Harry Potter's big fan, how can we verify the credibility of your claim?
verification is only possible between 2 individuals that *are at least,* comparable in knowledge
which means
only fellow Harry Potter's big fans who can verify the credibility of your claim as "Harry potter's big fan",
every Harry potter's big fan naturally has comparable knowledge about Harry Potter
meanwhile God
is incomparable, nobody can verify any of his claims
the All powerful
nobody is All powerful as God to verify it
the All knowing,
nobody is all knowing as God to verify it
and so on
May Allah bless Imam ibn ul Qayyim
Āmeen
Ibn Al Qayyim al Jawziah Rahimullah May Allah bless his soul.
Ameen
A rule :
If something eats, sleeps, gets hurt, gets overpowered, doesn't know something, or already dead, or got created before not existing.Then it can't be a God, therefore, it isn't worthy of getting worshipped.
that destroy all pagenism as well
A "person" who is sinless, has power over anything is not worthy to be worshipped?
@@ricsi6444 if you're talking about Jesus -peace and blessings be upon him- then no, being sinless doesn't mean anything. I mean babies are sinless aren't they! Does that mean they're gods? Also in your religion jesus didn't overpower everyone, didn't he get crossed?? Nails pinning him? Wasn't he crying?
@@ricsi6444🙄 you can be sinless and not being God. We call God who is One, because there is nobody who share with Him His nature.
You know that Jesus put Holy Spirit above himself in holiness, and he put his Father above himself in power. So your premise is not valid.
أحسنت، بارك الله فيك @oyvuru
So beautiful. I’m not even Muslim and I have the same questions to Christians.
Islam is truly wonderful and simple to learn about. Believing in One God and praying to Him alone is the most important thing in life. I hope you find peace and satisfaction. Have a great day.
@@Jana-ne6km Thank you, that's very kind of you. There is definitely a lot of wisdom that I take from the things I learn about Islam. Have a great day and peace to you too :)
@@l.raq1 finally someone respectful
Huge W to you
@@l.raq1 Thats such a lovely thing to hear, we need more open minded people like you :) I invite you to read some of many beautiful chapters in our holy Quran, ias i'm sure you'll love them!!!. Surah Duha, Surah A'la and surah ash shahr. They're pretty short but are definitely some of my favourites
أدعوك للدخول في الإسلام ولن تندمي
ستكون لك جنة في صدرك وفي الآخرة
فقط تعلمي من المصادر الصحيحة .❤
سبحان الله وتعالي عما يشركون
To know the creator of everything, read surah Ikhlas.
May Allah have mercy on his soul
جميل جدا يتحدث باخلاق وبدون تجريح
يطرح أسئلة منطقيه لم يستطع اي مسيحي الإجابة عليها
If this poem is not enough to give a wake up call to the Christians, their hearts are sealed off. 😢
these are not even arguments
@@mathewpt4478 They are. They are *rhetorical* questions of a narrative that Christians believe in, to show the ridiculousness of those beliefs.
@@laith8116 what arguments sayings we worship 3 gods we dont
you must be in the minority then because most christians do, especially the recent ones, they're so ignorant. @@mathewpt4478
@@mathewpt4478 Are you sure, you are not worshiping 3 gods? I count the father, the spirit and the son, hmmm let me do basic arithmetic, 1 +1 +1 =? 1. My bad, it seems like, 1+1+1 does not equal 3, instead it is equal to one. Thanks for waking me up from my deslusions.
How does three different entities equate to one? Unless those entitties are somehow part of another singular entity, but then again who ist that entity? I guess it is time for you guys to invent new stuff as to who this new all encompassing entity could be. I am eager to see a unique branch of christianity emmerging with a new god. xD, all it takes is adding a few verses into the bible, and after a couple of hundred years, a couple of powerhungry guys will establish a new version of christianity, just like they did back then, as they established the concept of trinity ca. 300-400 years after jesus' alleged crucifixion.
يوسف سبقتني يا يوسف
الله يجعله شفيع لك
أمين
هل توفي؟
@@محمدالشريف-ر6ج
ليس هذا مقصدي
جزاك الله خير. صوتك مريح للأعصاب
May Allah reward you in goodness
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Mashallah, the voice is so heartwarming, I hope you make more videos with this reciter.
يوجد قرآن بصوته و اسمه عمر بن عبدالعزيز
لديه قناة على اليوتيوب
@@retire05شكراً لأخباري
Mashallah, as an arab, the translation is nothing compared to the original
Ya
What do you mean please explain for non Arab speaker
@@xx-rt2hs The English translation translates strong and powerful Arabic words to simple English words because the lack of these meanings in the English language.
one simple example is the first word in the second part in 1:00, يًدبر. It's translated to manage, but in Arabic it has more meanings like managing 'wisely'.
and so on. one Arabic word has multiple meanings in it, but when translated to English some meanings are dropped because English doesn't have words to fit the Arabic word.
This is kinna what I know and I might be wrong 😅
@@KaneroKikai you are totally right
اتفق، احس خطية ما يفهمون الكلمات اتمنى انهم يتعلمونها😔
من يهده الله فلا مضل له ومن يضلل فلا هادي له.
Among them are those who will open their eyes, and ponder.
Among them are those who will seal their hearts, and be among the disbelievers.
May Allāh reward ibn Al-Qayyim for his efforts.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
جزاك الله خيرا، حفظك الله
4 minutes and almost 30 seconds AND he made it rhyme.
edit: guys, I'm hinting at how weak the foundation of Christian belief is, I'm not talking about poetry in and of itself. basically you're cooked if a man can take down the very core of your age old religion in 4 mins while making it rhyme.
There are a lot of arabic poems that are well over 15 minutes and some are over an hour and they rhyme
That's very normal in classic arabic poems
@@allergictohumansnotanimals5671 Oh boy then i suppose you didn't know Ibnu Al Qayim had an even bigger poem that reaches to more than 200 parts and he still made it rhyme, it's called "Al Kafiyah Al Shafiyaa"
It's very common to have Arabic poems with hundreds of lines that rhyme and have the same internal melody throughout the entire poem
Man, if this made you wonder, i just have no idea how will you react if you actually know arabic poetry and how long they can reach ...
Takbeer....Allahu Akbar thuuma Allahu Akbar
Jazakumullahu Khairan
جزاكم الله خيرا
I heard this poem months ago, it's so beautiful to hear and carries a very important message.
Beautiful
سبحان الله سبحان الله سبحان الله تعالى عن ذلك علو عظيما
احسن الله إليك✨
Beautiful and intellectual ❤
May allah swt bless ibn ul qayyim❤
MERRY CHRISTMAS
@@1SteveSmith
المسيح ولد في الصيف بدليل إنجيل متى
أما ما تحتفل به هو عيد إله الشمس هالو عيد إله أجدادك من الوثنيين الرومان و هناك أختلاف عن عام الميلاد
عيد كم وثني ظهر بعد المسيح عليه السلام بأكثر من 300 مئة عام
@@jdjdurueurjfufufufufufu4925 Hey, I'm Jewish 🤣😂🤣 IDF all the way !!😂💙🤍💙🤍
@@1SteveSmith
ذلك أشد ربك يتصارع مع يعقوب و عنصري
خلق مليارات البشر فقط لخدمة حفنة من الشراذم أغلبهم من نسل زواني كا راعوث وباتشيبع
Beautiful Subhanallah
likkle mo was a perv
Jazak Allah khairan
LORD OF LORDS KING OF KINGS CONQUERING LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH ❤
صدقت
حمدالله على نعمة الإسلام والمسلمين
keep making duas
this is a beautiful poem , absolutely beautiful
وحم الله الامام ابن قيم
الله المستعان
جزاكم الله خيرا
استغررررررب والله!!!
بزعمهم ذبح سيدنا عيسى عليه السلام بسكين(عمود) ،،،، هل سأقدس سكينا(عمود) ذبببح به عيسى عليه السلام!!!!!
أم سالقيه في المزابل!! لتعذيبه عيسى عليه السلام!!!
صلوات الله وسلامه على سيدنا الحبيب المبارك كلمة الله ❤عيسى عليه السلام❤،،
،
والله عنجد منطقهم اغرب شي شفته في حياتي
shadaqta wa bararta
I wish he included how did the angel of death dare snatch this powerless gods soul
And who looked after his soul after it was taken out
And how did the water stand still not drowning his enemies
And how did the air not be a storm saving its Lord
And why didnt the God not order the heart
To stop pumping the blood of his enemies
Surah fatir 35:41:
Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ keeps the heavens and the earth from falling apart. If they were to fall apart, none but Him could hold them up. He is truly Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving.
Yes yes yes
Thank you.
As a Christian, I find the way this poem was recited to be very lovely. It sounded so soothing. I love Islam and Muslim people. Even though we have different perspectives on who Jesus (or prophet Isa (PBUH)) truly was, I like that Islam values him greatly. Blessings to all the followers of Islam! ✝💕☪
I hope Allah guide you to the true path ❤
@@yasmeenayman1094 Ty for your kindness, but I'm actually working on converting to Orthodoxy! L)
We love you too ❤ may Allah guide you the truth🥰
*For those unfamiliar with Christianity, here is a critical yet factual summary:*
Christianity is a religion based on the worship of Jesus Christ, who is regarded as both God and the “begotten” Son of God. According to Christian doctrine, Jesus is part of the Trinity, a concept that is difficult to reconcile logically: three distinct persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-are said to exist as one God (Matthew 28:19). This complex theological structure raises questions, as it introduces a paradox that has been debated for centuries, even within Christian circles.
The foundation of Christian belief rests on the Bible, a collection of ancient texts written over several centuries. The New Testament, which is specifically focused on the life and teachings of Jesus, was written between 50 to 100 years after Jesus’ “supposed” crucifixion. The authors of these texts are largely unknown, and the Gospels-Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John-are attributed to individuals who never met Jesus in person. For instance, the Gospel of Mark, considered the earliest gospel, was written decades after the events it describes, raising questions about its reliability. Notably, these texts were composed in Greek, a language Jesus himself did not speak (his spoken language was Aramaic), further distancing the authors from the original events.
Additionally, there are numerous documented contradictions within the Bible. For example, the genealogies of Jesus differ between the Gospels of Matthew and Luke (Matthew 1:1-17, Luke 3:23-38). In some instances, discrepancies occur even in fundamental events, such as the accounts of Jesus’ resurrection, where the number of angels at the tomb and the sequence of events differ between the Gospels (Matthew 28:2-6 vs. Luke 24:1-4). Scholars, including Christian theologians, have acknowledged these “copyist errors” and inconsistencies. Bart Ehrman, a leading New Testament scholar, writes extensively on how scribal changes and errors have shaped the Bible as we know it today.
These contradictions challenge the Bible’s claim of being divinely inspired and inerrant (2 Timothy 3:16). If an all-knowing and perfect God is behind the Bible, why are there so many textual errors and contradictions? Even prominent Christian leaders acknowledge that the Bible has been subject to human error over centuries of transmission.
Furthermore, despite these issues, many Christians remain unaware of them. Studies show that a significant portion of Christians, particularly younger generations, are not deeply engaged with their religion. According to a Pew Research Center study, the number of Americans who identify as Christians has dropped substantially over the past decade, with a marked increase in those claiming no religious affiliation. Specifically, the study found that 17% of Christian Americans now say they never attend religious services, up from 11% a decade ago . This trend is particularly pronounced among younger generations, where a Lifeway Research study shows that 69% of teenagers who leave church during young adulthood do not return. The study highlights a growing disinterest among young people regarding Christianity, suggesting that many view it as irrelevant to their lives .
This detachment raises the question of whether it’s wise to adhere to a faith tradition that many of its followers do not fully understand or critically examine. In light of these facts, it becomes difficult to justify following a religion without scrutinizing its foundations. Christianity’s reliance on ancient texts with questionable origins, numerous contradictions, and minimal engagement from its modern followers suggests that a deeper investigation is necessary before accepting its claims at face value.
*The Studies:*
www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
research.lifeway.com/2019/01/15/most-teenagers-drop-out-of-church-as-young-adults/
@@yacquub-nuur لا يا شيخ ما يجوز حب الكفار المرء مع من احب
Sheikhul Islam❤️
(2) No mater what question you ask them, they will give you answers that even they themselves don’t believe in… bc it is not the eyes that are blind, it is the heart that is resisting to believe
جزاك الله خيرا
Mashallah i lov you ❤
This is the most important comment.
If you want to go to heaven after death, become a Muslim
how?
That's it
Say this and believe it:
I testify that Allah is the only God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God😊
LORD OF LORDS KING OF KINGS CONQUERING LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH ❤
@@1SteveSmith
أكمل ملك الملوك و خاروف 😂 ربك دعا ربه لماذا تركتني ههههههه
الله يهديك فكر قبل أن تندم
I spit on your proposal.
The Islamic heaven is a disgusting hedonistic fest. Islam's shallow concept of Jennah is enough to make you reject, in addition to a whole host of other problems.
ما شاء الله
I’ve always been puzzled by Christianity. Whenever I ask questions or read their scriptures, I never get a satisfying answer. Is God supposed to be God, or is He Jesus? And if He’s Jesus, why would they kill Him and then wearing the cross? Isn’t it strange to take pride in the death of God?!
only Satan would applaud such a thing.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
@@1SteveSmith God should be infinite, He never dies. He could forgive without having his own child, Exalted be God from what you attribute to him, to be tortured and nailed on a cross. Wake up, brother! God NEVER, and should NEVER die.
Read quran you will find all your answers there for example allah said in quran
English (Saheeh International):
(59) Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allāh[127] is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
abdool logic we use the cross as the sign and sacrifice of him
بارك الله فيك يا أخي
نشرتها عندي أتمنى أن لا تُمانع (وإن كنت تفعل فأعلمني)
Masha Allah
Change yuor profile
سبحان الله
Wonder for a person saw the sword that killed his master and then he venerated, kissed and sanctified it
Allah knows whats in themselves if he sees anything good in a person who wants to seek the truth than varily allah will show him his signs . While the arrogant will go further in disbelief even after the truth came to him . His disbelief will make him forget himself of that he neglected the truth was the cause of it...
Jesus never preached Christianity but Islam.
Jesus never preached Christianity nor the trinity.
islam didnt even existed at the time of him
@@mathewpt4478 islam meaning submit to god so yeah as for your dead god....
im Muslim Allahu Akbar
May I post your videos on tiktok ?
Yes you can, but just mention my TH-cam Channel name.
@@yusufazizi319I ask for your permission from you to use your videos. I ask for your permission, that I may alter the English subtitles into my own language, so that it reaches a wider audience. I promise to credit you, and by Allah, I promise to keep the text literal and without adding or subtracting anything from it.
@@LandOfEloquenceSalam Akhi, go ahead. No problem.
Thought it's something in the Quran and think "why did they write a chapter just for Christians"
Jesus was a Muslim.
He is in the Quran.
Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet of God.
@MAHMED-s6h While Jesus was in the Quran, and Muslims do believe Him to be a servant of God, Jesus was not Muslim. Jesus, even if He didn’t teach that He was God, which He did according to historical evidence, would have been Jewish. If He taught Islam, He would be a slightly controversial figure, since the God of the Hebrews is different from Allah personality-wise. Instead Jesus was a super controversial figure because He was teaching that He was their God! And it sounded crazy because to most of the Jews, whose prophets have split seas, Jesus was just a dude. Like their track record was crushing buildings and splitting seas and salt airstrikes, but the messiah they were waiting for came as just a regular guy? Jesus was very controversial because of that. And the those that saw Him transmute liquids, teleport, and tell the sea to calm down, they knew He was God. And then just for extra confirmation He let Himself experience death and came back and was walking around for forty days before just leaving. (Not dying, He just straight up left.) I will take the word of eyewitnesses who saw Jesus come back to life than the word of a man 500 years later who was not only pagan, but lived nowhere near the site of the events he comments on. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
Mashallah
Can you translate to us nooniyah ibn qayyim
This needs an entire team of experts
بارك الله فيك أخي، لقد أنزلت هذا الفيديو وقمت بنشره أخي إذا سمحت بذلك❤
First of all, Christian logic is not Muslim logic. For Christians, it’s the understanding of the Trinity and the sacrifice of Jesus for salvation. In Islam, it’s the oneness of God and the rejection of any divinity attributed to Jesus. Mixing both religious beliefs only causes confusion. I mind my own religious business and don’t concern myself with others🤷🏻♀️
So you don't care to search for truth or right or wrong, that is not something you should brag about.
It is so funny that all Christians in comments are commenting weird things and insulting themselves
instead of answering these questions
Like babies, when they dont have anything to say they just scream and cry
No point arguing with christens, they are meant to exist and if it wasn't for god's permission they wouldn't have existed. والحمد لله رب العالمين
Generally, yes. But each one of them individually may be guided.
Further, it's good to remove doubts from hearts of Muslims too.
Learn to spell properly
Are muslims even capable of understanding a 21st century argument ?😂🤣😂
❤
Simple answer: Jesus has a body, so its fully a man, and hes god meaning hes fully god too. Thats why he has to eat drink etc. And thats why he can do miracles. And about the crucifiction, he could made it to not get hit even once, but it was his choice to remain silent, and carry the cross and die. To show his merciness to its people no matter what they do, he forgives
So ypu mean you can't perform miracle if you're not God? And If you mean that, my question is this moses, Abraham and other prophets perform miracles so they also God?
I didnt meant that
how do you manage to unite two and many more contradictions. Assume we have an entity called µ, µ can contain all attributes as long is is not contradictory, for example µ can contain 2*2 = 4, or 2+2 = 4 but also trivial things such as 1= 1, but not something like
1=2. Basically if things complement eachother then fine, but if they contradict each other then it cannot exist. For example a triangle can only exist if it has exactly three edges and vertices, any more than that than you will have something else. Likewise a circle cannot be a sqaure, and vice verca.
Now, let's take it a step further, and say this entity µ contains attributes such as: almighty, eternal, immortal, omniscient,omnipotent, all-powerful and so on. But, the moment we assign the entity an attribute like weak, ignorant, powerless, impotent and so on, we will have made a griveous logical error, because by definition :
-> if you are weak, you can not be powerful
-> if you are powerful, then you can not be powerless,
-> if you are omnipotent, by all means, you will certainly not be impotent.
-> likewise if you are omniscient, the you will not be ignorant or uninformed
In all honesty, if you believe that these contradictions can be united in an entity, then there is certainly no hope for you left, and it will be my loss for wasting my time. But in case you followed along the points mentioned above, then i ask you how can Jesus (AS) be powerful and powerless at the same time? How can he be omniscient and ignorant at the same time?
Don't give me :
- "but he was concieved without a man" , what about Adam (AS)?
- "he has two natures, fully god and fully human." is a sqaure also a circle? how do you unite the contradictions.
- "but he perfomed miracles " --> there were others capable of mircales too
If something in it's core has logical error, let alone contradictions, then it can not be true, let alone exist. Likewise for mircales done through things beyond our power or understanding,it is not impossible to perfrom as long it is logically feasible. For example parting of the sea, in case of Moses (AS), it is possible. Healing the blind, it is possible, even with our current scientific understanding. If in the distant future people with blindness are cured, or mankind has achieved longevity, does that mean we have achieved godhood? The answer is a resounding NO! Because death is ultimately part of nature, part of the universe, it is one the laws that governs the universe, even the universe itself will not escape it's clutches, when max. entropy is reached.
You see the combining of natures and attributes leads to a logical error and therefore your belief will come crumbling down, like a domino. If god's nature is not clear and full of logical errors and contrdictions, even though the base system of the universe and nature is logic itself, then something is not adding up, because the universe with it's laws and intricacies is designed perfectly. But the designer and creator of such a construct cannot even make himself known to it's creation without making mistakes and contradictions in introducing himself? Hmmm........ That is certainly not possible, and against common sense. Therefore it is not true, if it goes againt the base system, upon which the all things are based.
If you say that God's nature is a divine mystery, you are just merely sidestepping the question, sorry then you don't know who god is and are certainly not on the right path. Assuming that from day one God's message has always been the same, there is only one true god, never changing, until the christian paganism destroyed it with it's logical inconsistencies.
So why was he screaming ‘ Lord Lord why have you forsaken me?’
@@wahabmeskinyar8448 you are just assuming that you know everything about god adam was a created being
Where can I get a pdf copy of this poem?
Okay so I only watched the first minute so far but here’s the answer for that section, dealing with the death of Christ.
So while God did experience death as Christ, He was not necessarily “dead” since Jesus’ spirit was still alive. You can’t physically kill a spirit, they are immortal. And even if He had died, remember God exists as a trinity, so even if Jesus was somehow truly dead even in spirit, God still stands, which I now realize would create an insane paradox that clearly cannot be, so it’s good that Jesus didn’t die in spirit and create that paradox. As for “was he pleased with dying or was he upset-“ He wasn’t pleased with dying, it was pretty terrible what He went through, but He let them do that because God loves us enough to be tortured and die for us. Jesus even said that they can only harm Him because He let them. So TLDR for the first minute: God allowed Himself to be physicslly, not spiritually killed, and even though He wasn’t pleased with dying, He did it because He loves us. Praise Jesus, the merciful lord.✝️❤️
If he stayed alive while dying then he didn't die for you sins and therefore the christianity's narrative that says he died for you sins simply becomes a lie, Unless ofc no Christian on the face of the planet knows the definition of "death", Not to mention how ridiculous it is to say that he died but stayed alive because he has two natures blah blah blah... Wake up please for you sake.
@@barry_wastakenso they aren’t even sure about the * basics* of their religion,and anyone can make a theory about their god,so strange
God can just forgive. No need to torture himself lol 😂
@barry_wastaken The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines death as: the irreversible cessation of all vital functions especially as indicated by permanent stoppage of the heart, respiration, and brain activity. Now I’m pretty sure Jesus went through that. He suffered and experienced death for us. His soul wasn’t deleted. That’s like saying there is no afterlife because you’re just dead. Making sense now? You seem very confident in your claims but I pray that you find the answers in Christ and not the lies of the world. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
@jonascarlsson3 Are you forgetting the wages of sin? Sin causes death and destruction, and those who sin deserve such fates. For example: if you murder somebody, but say that you’re really sorry, are you going to be freed from your sentence? No. Sin is a moral crime, and it has a punishment, even if you are really sorry. Jesus died in our place, He experienced what we were destined for so that we can be made pure like Him. It’s, in a sense, a fair trade. A perfect man dies unjustly to pay the fee that sinful men deserve. Even though God created everything, He operates within His rules. If He needed to break His own logic of justness in order to get unclean people into heaven, then His logic is flawed, therefore He is flawed. But we all know that God is not flawed, He is perfect. Praise Jesus ✝️❤️
Christianity and Islam are both beautiful belief systems. I humbly subscribe to the core values of both. I also open my mind and heart and soul to all the other thoughtful moral philosophies that recognise a deity and a peaceful intent in this mortal life.
Lol bro u can't believe in Christianity and islam at the same time
My friend, there are no middle grounds between right and wrong. You have to choose either of the two but it is actually impossible to accept as truth both the right and wrong. The two paths completely reject each other. For example; you cannot have 2+2 = 4 and 2+2 = 5 be the same results. You have to choose whichever one is absolutely correct.
You claim to accept both religions but in actuality, you are accepting neither. Because you are going against the core teachings of both.
@ well, thank you brother. In one, absolute doctrinal sense, I am sure there is some merit to what you say.
Yet, I love to pray in churches, mosques, my home, chapels, on mountains, outside football grounds (inside too, on some occasions, but that’s because of the team I support!, ha.)., on canal towpaths, and I truly believe God knows what’s in my heart.
I cherish my Bibles, I cherish my Qu’rans. I also seek wisdom all around me. In Shakespeare, in Mozart, in the Aphex Twin, in the work I do in arts education. In the faces and words of the checkout workers at my local supermarket, in talking to the lost souls who congregate outside the U-bahns and the Greggs (I live in the and Berlin due to my work).
One thing I do not do though is tell people what or how to believe.
Peace be with you.
@@gregh4292
Did u really read the Qur'an?
@@gregh4292not sure you even watched this video
CHRIST FOREVER!!! ✝️✝️✝️
Merry Christmas brother 🤝✝️
God made the universe a sign of His existence and attributes... So where are the cosmic signs proving He’s born, turns into flesh, and gets killed? Tough one, isn’t it?
I’m refuting this entire poem 😂😂😂😂😂
1. Opening Argument: Challenging Worship of Christ
Ibn al-Qayyim begins by asking Christians why they worship Christ, claiming that Jesus was merely a servant of God and not divine. He suggests that worshiping Christ is misplaced.
Refutation:
The Divinity of Christ:
Jesus explicitly claimed divinity. For example, in John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." This statement shows equality with God.
The apostle Thomas worshiped Jesus as God in John 20:28: "My Lord and my God!" Jesus did not rebuke Thomas but affirmed his declaration.
Jesus is not “just a servant”:
While Jesus humbly took on human form (Philippians 2:6-8), He was also fully God (Colossians 2:9: "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form").
Jesus performed works only God could do, such as forgiving sins (Mark 2:5-7) and raising the dead (John 11:25-26).
2. Claim: If Jesus Were God, He Wouldn’t Have Been Crucified
Ibn al-Qayyim argues that it’s illogical for God to suffer and die, claiming this would mean humans had power over God.
Refutation:
The Crucifixion was God’s Plan:
Jesus willingly chose to die for humanity’s sins. In John 10:18, Jesus said: "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord." His death was not a sign of weakness but of immense love and humility.
God's Love and Justice:
The crucifixion demonstrates God’s love (John 3:16) and justice (Romans 3:25-26). Sin required atonement, and only God could provide the perfect sacrifice.
Resurrection Proves Victory:
The crucifixion was not the end. Jesus rose from the dead on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4), demonstrating His power over sin and death.
3. Argument: The Cross Itself
Ibn al-Qayyim questions why Christians venerate the cross, calling it an instrument of suffering.
Refutation:
The Cross is a Symbol of Redemption:
Christians do not worship the wooden cross itself; they honor it as a symbol of Christ’s sacrificial love and the redemption He accomplished through it.
Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 1:18: "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
God Turns Evil into Good:
The cross, a tool of execution, became the means of salvation. This transformation highlights God’s power to redeem and bring good from evil (Genesis 50:20).
4. Argument: Jesus’ Human Limitations
The poem emphasizes Jesus’ human traits (e.g., hunger, fatigue) as evidence against His divinity.
Refutation:
Jesus’ Humanity Complements His Divinity:
Jesus became fully human while remaining fully God (John 1:14). His humanity allowed Him to experience human suffering and become the perfect mediator between God and man (Hebrews 4:15).
Voluntary Limitation:
Jesus willingly humbled Himself, taking on human limitations to accomplish salvation (Philippians 2:6-8). This humility doesn’t negate His divinity.
5. Argument: God Cannot Be Born
Ibn al-Qayyim argues that God being born of a woman is impossible and unworthy of His majesty.
Refutation:
God’s Majesty is in His Humility:
God’s incarnation in Jesus (John 1:14) is not a limitation but an act of infinite love and grace. The Bible teaches that God’s ways are higher than human ways (Isaiah 55:8-9).
Prophecies Foretold the Incarnation:
The Old Testament predicted that the Messiah would be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14) and called Him “Mighty God” and “Everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6).
The Incarnation was Necessary for Salvation:
To reconcile humanity with God, Jesus had to take on human form, live a sinless life, and die for our sins (1 Timothy 2:5-6).
6. Argument: God is Eternal and Cannot Die
Ibn al-Qayyim claims that God dying contradicts His eternal nature.
Refutation:
Only Jesus’ Human Nature Died:
When Jesus died on the cross, it was His human nature, not His divine nature, that experienced death. His divine nature is eternal and unchanging (Hebrews 13:8).
Death Could Not Hold Him:
Jesus rose from the dead, demonstrating His victory over death and His divine nature (Acts 2:24).
God’s Eternal Plan:
The death and resurrection of Jesus were part of God’s eternal plan to redeem humanity (Revelation 13:8).
7. Argument: Christians Associate Others with God
Ibn al-Qayyim accuses Christians of shirk (associating partners with God) by worshiping Jesus alongside the Father.
Refutation:
The Trinity is Monotheism:
The doctrine of the Trinity teaches that there is one God in three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). This is not shirk but the fullness of God’s revelation.
Jesus is One with the Father:
Jesus claimed unity with God in John 10:30: "I and the Father are one." Worshiping Jesus is worshiping God, not another deity.
Biblical Worship of Jesus:
Jesus is worshiped throughout the New Testament (e.g., Matthew 14:33, John 20:28, Philippians 2:9-11). This worship is not idolatry but recognition of His divinity.
Conclusion
Ibn al-Qayyim’s poem misunderstands or misrepresents Christian theology, particularly the doctrines of the Trinity, the Incarnation, and the Atonement. Each argument he raises can be refuted with Scripture and logic. The Christian faith remains firmly rooted in the truth of one God who revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, united in essence and purpose.
Praise the Triune God! ✝️🦁🙏
may God guide u to the truth...
@nyctophilia8720
I am already guided to the truth in Jesus Christ he said that in John 14:6
"may God guide u to the truth..."
Do you really believe yourself? And the only way to understand your perspective is through elucidation, which leads to the Trinity A̶l̶i̶e̶n̶ c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ believe - a notion that is even more perplexing🤦🤷
JESUS IS GOD🗣️🗣️
Bars...
Lol. The guy is so ignorant that it's hilarious. First, we have a trinity. Second, we believe Jesus was fully man on Earth. Third, Jesus went to the cross willingly and laid down his life. Fourth, God was pleased with Jesus' sacrifice where he symbolised the determination a follower of christ should have. Unlike those who, by the sword, force the world to bow to their wishes.
true
0:17
A god who cares to give his life
0:25
No (matthew 12:36)
0:36
Also no, the sacrifice was to usher in the new covenant which God desired, albiet disliked being killed.
For instance, does not a mother desire to raise children despite the pain of childbirth?
0:45
No, the human nature of God the Son died, not the transcendent nature.
How can god have 2 natures???
a woman wants to raise kids but she must face the pain of childbirth because it is the only way she can raise children, why would a god go through somthing he hates even though he can basically not do so (he can do anything as a god).
@aboodh085 because that's how the new covenant HAD to be established. God COULD HAVE avoided being killed if he had no care for the people in Sheol, for the people under the heresy of pharesetic movement, for his children and brothers and sisters dying painful deaths every day. An act of mercy AND self sacrifice, which is why Jesus is unequivocally GREATER than the Allah of Islam.
@@omsofi1111 cause he is god
@@mathewpt4478 so when he was human was he dependent on the father ? Or independent
This poem is inane and shows a profound ignorance of Christian theology.
Thats a way to cope with it i guess lol
@@hecker4342 The part about "who was running the universe when God was dead" was so stupid it beggars belief. A. The divine nature is impassible and indestructible. B. He actually thinks we believe in some kind of 'Jesus unitarianism,' when in fact we're Trinitarians. Even if the Son were truly dead, the Father And Holy Spirit would still "be alive" to run the universe.
@@ConsideringPhlebas Then why you not worshipp the father ?
@@ConsideringPhlebas So basically you believe that God is a sinner.. he just went on a random woman and made her pregnant. And if she was his wife then how come a creator be married to some sperms creatures? And the Son how come a son not be like his father? what kind of sons aren't like their fathers? How can a son of a god not be a god too? and if the son of a God is a God too then how come a God get hurt by one of his creations? How can iron puncture a God? like even denser metal in this world are iron proof and a creator is not iron proof? so basically your religion is based on a horny sinning God who instead of keeping his lust private up in the heavens his libido tempted him into scewing a human in earth then accidently he didn't have a condom and ejaculated the holy spirit into the poor woman then his so holy spirit are so weak that need to get fed inside his mother's belly.. but let say that's how baby gods are.. then after the so holy and divine god got out of the smelly dirty human womb he then got crucified by bunch of humans mobs who could defeat the so holy spirit that's totally not coming from a sinning god that went horny on an human vagina.. so they were able to kill son of god and then people started to worship the cross which neither the horny god nor his bastard son nor the poor woman who did nothing to get raped by a god.. hmmm so much knowledge in the christian theology. i really wanna hear more about it
if you believe that if the son dies or ceases to exist, then there is no problem, that means that there is no need for the son to exist, so what kind of a God do you believe in, since his absence makes no difference to world.
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This was silly. A total misunderstanding of Christian claims.
He prolly studied the bible more than you
@ its just like Anti-muslim creators - they do not understand the muslim claims and so sound like bufoons when critiquing them- this happens on both sides
@ABASARiii no he doesnt
@@mathewpt4478 didn’t*, lived 600 years after the revelation of the Quran. They used their logic and didn’t fell into a blind faith.
Well said.
"إذا قال الرجلُ لأخيهِ يا كافِرُ باءَ بِه أحَدُهما "
ليه اغلب التعليقات بالانجليزي 😂 مو حتى فاهمين الشعر
أما ترى الترجمة؟
Not a Christian,
but it clear that the poet writer has no knowledge of what Christianity really is.
@@TheFoxholeLife If you actually know who God is and what he is. You will understand the point he is making. The problem is that most of the people in the world are inclined to Peganism. They just have to believe that God became what he is not or he is what by definition he can not be. The only religion that actually believe that God is what he is and he doesn’t change is Islam. Every other religion has beliefs which contradict what God is. God is uncreated and eternal, in christianity he became created and weak. God is one there cannot be any god beside him, however, Hindus believe in millions of Gods. So the problem is not that the poem doesn’t make sense, it is you people who have been programmed to think that peganism is logical by the film industry and game industry. You even call each other gods, when you are a master of something. Thats how little value u give to the name of God. It has become meaningless to you, so of course, pure monotheism will never make sense to you, because you love peganism and hate the oneness of God.
@@yusufazizi319 Let them play, eat and drink. They will come to know.
Yeah sure you know more about religions then of the biggest scholars in history. But you might have a point tho since a new church emerged long after he died.
@@acuriousmind6217 I spent pretty much my entire youth in Christianity (and a decade or so in Islam). Did your scholar spend the same amount of time studying Christianity?
@@TheFoxholeLife if it is spent learning doctrine created 1600 years after your god died then whatever I guess good for you.
I am Christian. I would find very interesting to comment every verse of this poem just to make you understand how disrespectful and blindful it is.
Can you answer the question in every verse? 😊
@MrSsayedd yes
@@zephyrus9852 do it.
Answer
weak agrument
Broken keyboard , broken words
No, but It's the blind heart
@@Taerx7 you?
which of his arguments is weak and why
@aboud3452 "when God died by the actions of the people" he died because he let himself to be
Luke 23:46 KJV
[46] And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
˹Remember˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to place a successive ˹human˺ authority on earth.” They asked ˹Allah˺, “Will You place in it someone who will spread corruption there and shed blood while we glorify Your praises and proclaim Your holiness?” Allah responded, “I know what you do not know.”
So, how do Angels know human would spread corruption and shed blood before human being was even created by Allah? Can we say Allah is responsible for what is going on on Palestine today?
Because before humans there were jinis, and about what is going on in Palestine, it is a conciquince of disobeying your lord.
@aminmez119 the question is not about jinis, it is about the human beings, the angels already knew that the human beings to be created by Allah would spread corruption and shed blood on earth, let me repeat the question " how did the angels know that human beings would spread corruption and shed blood on earth before they were even created by Allah?
@@turkkahvesi07he answered it before human, jin existed and they shed blood and corruption, so the angels assumed that human will do the same.
@turkkahvesi07 because they saw the same happen with the jinis, what do you think??
@aminmez119 so I infer that what Allah creates will spread corruption and shed blood on the earth. Then Allah is responsible for the corruption and blood on the earth.
God allowed it all as he allows us to continue breathing. As he allowed Muhammed to cross the deserts he allowed Christ to have his flesh pierced. There is no heroism without struggle and so Christ gave himself limits so he could live as humans do. Just as god tired on the seventh day, Christ was tired by each miracle he was tasked wit for his shell was still mortal. I hope these answers will do. And the cross is not an Idol.
This is blasphemy. If God is tired then He is limited. Another lie against God Almighty
@silimansoumare8411 This is the story of creation. Can you say YOU created an entire universe? I'd say it's blasphemous to be so unappreciative.
@@driddick7361
There is a sort of language that is not be fitting for God. As a human if I say I created a hole universe it's fine as long as I dont claim the divine attribute of Creation.
But If you say God was tired then on the seventh day he he rested this is a clear blasphemy.
Jesus Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords. He prayed to God during his time on earth. Even on the New Testament, it says, that only the Father knows when the Son will return, not even the Son knows. And Christians, are basically people who obey and follow Jesus Christ’s commands and teachings, which by the way, also said to follow God and his commandments. Whoever follow Jesus Christ commands are the only ones who can be called Christians. So even if you’re a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or atheist or whatever, it is on your actions and not on what you say that speaks more. But of course, words still matter because it causes people to either feel hate, anger, love, peace, etc. God is the absolute truth that can only judge everyone.
That just means Jesus was a prophet not god
u said urself jesus pray to god during his time on earth. so to which god he pray? i mean if jesus is god why the need to pray?
"And Christians, are basically people who obey and follow Jesus Christ’s commands and teachings", but most christian now do thing which not in jesus comand and teaching like not eating pork now christian eating pork, dont make a statue and yes they do, etc. most christian follow paul than their bible.
1. god died by the actions of the people because he allowed the people to kill him, he was notably displeased at his death but that doesn't mean that they overpowered god; similarly, allah is displeased when the people sin but they do not overpower him because he lets them sin
2. just because god has physically died does not mean he has ceased to exist, we all know that death is not the end of your existence and that you are to be raised at the end of days in both christianity and islam
3. god can manage the world and rule it while simultaneously being nailed to a cross because he is god, the all powerful, the omnipresent
4. the angels did not "abandon" him as he did not want to be helped by them
5. he was able to die and be carried by the planks and iron because he willed it and god's will overpowers everything
6. christ raised himself from the dead so there is no other god
7. christ existed before he took on a human body and transferred himself into the womb of mary
8. he decided to submit himself to a human life and body for various reasons, one of them being to fulfill the old testament law of sacrificial atonement
9. christians do not "worship" the cross, its a symbol and relic of our religion just like a copy of the quran is for you; also, we use it as a symbol of his sacrificial death to demonstrate how merciful and loving he is to die for us and not to literally celebrate his suffering on it
if some jews killed your god then why would humans respect him and believe he is a god if they killed him with a cross why would the humans who have now nukes believe or follow a weak thing like him
1 Why did not he take a human form without trasferring himself into the womb of Mariam, is not he the all-powerful?
2 So, he brought himself to life while being dead?
3 And who worship a God that was killed by the people he created?
4 So, angels kept worshiping someone being nailed to a cross and burred in the dirt.
5 Allah do let people sin because there is a day of judgement when he holds accountable all those who sinned. And actually, who sin, will pay for it, Allah is not harmed if you think about it.
6 So, Jesus eats and drinks ... Who brings him that food and drink. And if food vanished, would he die again?
7 do not say at the last point that he would create new food, because if he was a God, he would have made himself don't feel hungry.
8 Lastly, Peophet Isa, Peace be upon him, did not even die at that point, after hundreds of years, the Al-Qur'an Al-kareem came with real words of God, Allah, and He explained that he was not crucified, but that it was likened to them.
The real sacrifice was from a believer in the Prophet Jesus, whom Allah depicted in the form of the Prophet.
@@JaW-os7hv اللّٰه يهدي.
It's like reading the Quranul Kareem
What ?
This is poetry.. its way different
لا ليس مثله إنما هذه قصيدة وجُمل منظمة وفيها لحن
أما القرآن فهو كلام الله المعجز المنزل بواسطة جبريل (ملك الوحي) على نبينا محمد ، المنقول إلينا بالتواتر المتعبد بتلاوته .
Meanwhile, I have a question for Muslims: why do you guys follow a book with dragons in it?
What...
@@peopleskingdomofwolcottia what the hell is bro yapping about
@@SAM-qw2fo the 88th verse of Surah Ibrahim
Brother @@peopleskingdomofwolcottia there is no 88th verse in Surah Ibrahim
@@peopleskingdomofwolcottiawhat u r talking abt ??😂
Well since a lot of these questions are very simple even i can explain them without being a christian
As i dont understand the trinity this explanation might have some heresies but whatever. The lord incarnated (gave himself a body in the human world) as jesus. Part of why he did this is to forgive us of our sins (through his death), as prophesised in the old testament. While he was incarnated, he was nailed to a cross, why? 1. For the aforementioned forgiving of our sins and 2. To show that they are not alone, that when they are being tortured or suffering, that god himself experienced those same things and is with them along the way.
The reason we "celebrate his death" is because in that moment, he suffered for all of humanity. and by worshipping him and how he died, we remember him and can be grateful for what he did for us.
"That they are not alone" when i said they i meant humanity/christians
You have not answered, why should God try torment? Isn't he the Creator of it ?? Try to hear the poem again, and try to think " Jesus is a human", will it be sense enough ?
why would God need to unalive himself to forgive humanity? why would God need to send himself as a human to earth to forgive us and why would he make a prophecy like that in the first place? you don't answer none of this
@@none7577 cause unlike satan aka llah the christian god isnt he loves his children thats why he took the fleh
@@mathewpt4478 so he kill himself 😂😂😂
Sadly poem is good but ibn qayyim drifted in belief with ibn taymiyyah. He was locked up with him too when they decided to change some beliefs of islam see the wikipedia if u dont believe me
You get your knowledge from wikipedia? Do some actual research and understand the people that you're bad mouthing. Open up their books and open up their biographies rather than reading from a wikipedia page.😂
in nooneyah ibn qayem mentioned how much he loves ibn taymeyah and ge said he have rescued him from being disbleaver like asha'era
he was prisoned because he was against traveling to visit graves.
@@muyfjbvgbvhbvunc8720 be careful calling other Muslims disbelief and know this comment maybe will be here when you're in grave,
It's better you remove it and make towbah before it's too late
This just shows How blind they are, Anyone who wants to learn truth, Watch sam Shamoun. Christ is the way.........
he is talking abt the hypostatic union and the doctrine of Kenosis, he did not really prove christianity false or anything
Yes bcz he doesnt need to prove it
Its the clearest thing ever
He is just asking some questions to Christians to make them think and wake uppp before its too late
@ these questions are actually pretty simple lmao
@Wesso2803
So why Christians are screaming in comments instead of answering them?
Answer just 3 questions from your choice
He has disappeared 😭
Like every Christian after being asked about his relegion
@ i aint watching that long ahh video again, send me any question, within the video and outside
Lets say Jesus is a man.. Remember Jesus spread his teachings through words and not by Swords.. so that alone is enough to silence some ignorant follower of mohammad..
1 Samuel 15:3
And yet the Qur'an teaches us to only defend ourselves and direct ourselves for all means of peace (all Muslim wars until ummayad empire were in defence) and your bible teachs nothing but aggression against all non Christians
@@aykut8aykut That is from the old testament.
Our teachings were not spread through the sword, very hypocritical calling us Ignorant, don't you think?
@@driddick7361 Isn't it still from God? From your perspective.
Alright, challenge accepted: First of all, we worship Jesus for what he did for us on the cross, we don't worship the cross itself, but rather use it to symbolize the selfless and holy nature of Jesus. And second of all, Jesus was willing to endure this life and sacrifice for us, he had all the power of God, as he is God in human form, but he controlled it for our sake. Now may God bless all of you greatly.
So God died to save humans from God?
@Ewerewoo Jesus died to save humans from their own sins, God doesn't want people to go to hell, but all the same he doesn't tolerate injustice. So Jesus payed the price for our sins so we don't have to burn, we don't have to pay eternally. His sacrifice was the perfect plan to ensure that there is no injustice or tolerance of sin, yet simultaneously we are still redeemed.
@@biggestpoufan1727 Watch the news there is a lot of sins and injustice, and that is not fair for the evil to be redeemed without any kind of penance, aren't god should give justice to his worshipper.
@@biggestpoufan17271. why would you use the tool that you used to do the worst sin and kill your beloved god to symbolize this god.
2. even if god wanted us to just go to heaven no matter what, having to "endure" somthing he hates for the sake of anything completly contradicts the limitless unimaginable power consept of a god, if he can do anything he doesn't have to endure anything for the sake of doing anything he wants (including transforming to one of his creations as an almighty god).
3. if an all knowing god knows that one of his creations would never obey him and stop doing all of these sins even after excuting the "perfect plan" that includes him having to sacrifice things, why would he mind doing somthing about it, he doesn't need us, he is just so mercyfull to even give us ALOT of chances, if his creation still insisted on doing bad deeds, an independent powerfull god would just give this creation what he deserves.
man please consider thinking seriously about this, if you couldn't justify these things you are really in danger.
These people follow a "prophet" Who told them that he was a great deciever & yet they still follow😂😂😂😂
Hey brother... Can you show me a verse in the quran or a Hadith that says that the prophet is what you called "a great deceiver"?
@@yasoxtreme9961 Yes I will, but firstly, Do you consider yourself to be a Muslim ?
@@yasoxtreme9961 I will show you a passage in which Mohammed states that he is "the greatest deceiver".
@@yasoxtreme9961 I'm guessing that you have found the passage for yourself. Unfortunately Muslims follow a man who has told him that he lies to them.
@@yasoxtreme9961 Would you still like me to send you the passage ?
“If God alone is, no testimony can be valid except His. It is hypocrisy to affirm the Oneness of Being from a point of view which itself is in contradiction with the truth, and it was no doubt to galvanise his disciples into awareness of this that Ḥallāj uttered his devastating paradox:
‘Whoso testifyeth that God is One thereby setteth up another beside Him (namely his own individual self as testifier).’
The witness must be, not the self, but the Self, which means that the soul is not competent to voice the Shahādah. All the Sufi orders are in agreement about this, though they may differ in their methods of bridging the gap between hypocrisy and sincerity.”
are you a christian or a sufi
@ Christian
@@smartcookie11 standard Islamic theology doesn’t set up ‘one’; it sets up two: Allah and the person who testifies Allah is one. So in standard Islam there is two and in standard Christianity there is four (the one who testifies of the Trinity). They are both equally far from the truth. The truth is that there is only One without another to testify of Him.
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@@Dreadshroom-wi1xb what’s that supposed to mean
That's just a tremendous ignorance on the nature of Christ.