Technology In Your Game - Running RPGs

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  • Characters armed with Cell Phones and the Internet can drastically change an adventure. Many Game Masters find Modern and Sci-Fi Settings intimidating, believing available technology gives the PCs too much of an advantage. Truth is, for every benefit technology gives the Player Characters, it also creates an obstacle. Here's several ideas and suggestions on how to incorporate modern technology into your Tabletop Roleplaying Game.
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    Guest starring The Gang
    00:00 The Case of the Stolen Scroll
    01:06 Intro
    04:08 The Internet
    09:12 Cell Phones
    10:29 Using Technology Against the PCs
    13:13 The Hotel Massacre
    16:21 Risk of Losing
    17:05 Explain Failed Rolls
    18:00 Modern Adventure Examples
    19:32 Technology Horror Seeds
    20:30 Closing
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  • @raynercoslop
    @raynercoslop ปีที่แล้ว +383

    one of the greatest moments that i've witnessed in a TTRPG:
    "hurry! i'm in fake st 123 and there's a monster locked in the other room! please send help!"
    "don't worry sir, we're sending a patrol car to your location, in the meantime avoid all contact with the fish monster"
    "oh thank- wait, how do you know it's a fish monster? I never specified that"
    "..." *dial tone*
    now he has two problems to worry about

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nice

    • @100nodog
      @100nodog ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fantastic!

    • @Tomyironmane
      @Tomyironmane ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love it.

    • @jesternario
      @jesternario ปีที่แล้ว

      Liking and Replying to reference.

  • @Joemantler
    @Joemantler ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I like subverting the phone entirely in Horror.
    "911, what is your emergency?"
    "There is something killing people! Please send cops!"
    "Are you safe at the moment?"
    "Yes, I'm hidden."
    (voice changes) "Where are you hidden, exactly? Is it the closet on the third floor? Should I look for you there?"
    "Wait... what?"
    "I'm coming to get you, Susan! MUAHAHA!"

    • @Xingmey
      @Xingmey ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's amazing!

    • @xaptor8685
      @xaptor8685 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “911, what is your emergency?”
      “We’ve been robbed, our house is robbed!”
      “I’ll see what I can do, help is on the wa-“
      *disruption*
      “Hello?”
      *disruption clears*
      “…”
      “Where is Jessica Hyde?”

    • @jamesrickel3814
      @jamesrickel3814 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Have the call be answered in the future. "What are you talking about? that building burned down 25 years ago. Everyone inside were killed"

    • @Joemantler
      @Joemantler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have the operator stay on the line with them, dropping clues from the very sketchy forensics.

    • @paleposter
      @paleposter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a scene like this in the recent movie Smile, fun little part

  • @cygnia
    @cygnia ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Don't forget the sheer joy/danger of the intern running up the producer's credit cards!

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +90

      "Another round of lobsters!"

    • @cygnia
      @cygnia ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SSkorkowsky 🤣

    • @bordenfleetwood5773
      @bordenfleetwood5773 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SSkorkowsky "Who ordered 23 sandwiches from the deli?!"

  • @alexbarrett3832
    @alexbarrett3832 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love the idea that the pc says "I'm going to hack the system" and the GM replies: " sure, you send out a few million phishing emails, role to see how soon somebody falls for it... "

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I liked the real life example of dropping all the USBs outside the office and waiting for someone to plug it into their computer. 😂

  • @ljmiller96
    @ljmiller96 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    On the loss of signal front, I'm in the network biz and other than deep underground or inside a steel ship the worst place to get a cell signal is a multi-storey building with a lot of copper wire in the ceiling connecting PCs and phones, especially if the original Cat4 cable was abandoned in place when Cat5e or Cat6 was pulled to replace it. It forms a partial faraday cage that thoroughly blocks communications. The only way to connect is to be able to connect to the wireless network in the building, and building networks are normally protected with a password and maybe a badge with mag-chip as well. Cheers!

    • @Rubymagicalgirl88
      @Rubymagicalgirl88 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Or shopping malls which I presume have the same issue?

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Old shopping malls are the perfect storm of being artificial caves of concrete while also the faraday cage of copper wiring.

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My hometown in regional Australia still has issues.

    • @justmutantjed
      @justmutantjed ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Rubymagicalgirl88 Basically yeah. I work in a liquor store inside a mall. It's not *incredibly* old (built 1985, one year younger than I am) but in the store's walk-in beer cave, my phone gets NO service whatsoever. Building's exterior is concrete, there's heavy insulation covered by metal sheeting on the walls and ceiling of the walk-in... yeah.

    • @charlesmclain6558
      @charlesmclain6558 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hospitals are notoriously bad in my area, to top it off, the WiFi in those places are generally the weakest in terms of speed I have ever seen.

  • @gbgamer9474
    @gbgamer9474 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I also enjoyed one of the early Buffy episodes where a demon was released into their network due to being scanned into the computer and that scanning counted the same as reading the book out loud.

    • @twitchew
      @twitchew ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i was thinking about if the file is checked by antivirus software as another option to trigger/read a spell

    • @aubreyackermann8432
      @aubreyackermann8432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@twitchew I wonder if transferring the dormant file being moved to the trash folder would count as mispronouncing it all

  • @MrHullRockers
    @MrHullRockers ปีที่แล้ว +29

    If the characters google some really specific information like star alignments 9623 years ago, you could always have the website ask "Star alignment checker wants to use your current location", now that could be entirely innocent but it could also have been triggered by some algorithm that cultists have created to warn of snooping investigators.

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s great.

  • @Jebbis
    @Jebbis ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This reminds me a lot of the episode of The Venture Brothers when the clue was “The house that coke built” and they thought it was Studio 54 because they looked it up on the internet. The riddle was however written in the 19th century and Studio 54 didn’t exist and, it actually was in reference to a coal tycoons mansion. Because coke was a byproduct of coal distillation.

  • @dustincameron787
    @dustincameron787 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love how, on rewatching, you understand why Mike is laughing his ass off during the spy fight 😁

    • @kainthedragon1
      @kainthedragon1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The "after credits" bit was amazing!

  • @andrewlance3898
    @andrewlance3898 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I once played in a Buffy-esque modern campaign. A number of characters got into magic, which required 1) unlikely materials andtime-consuming rituals, and 2) you to have the ritual instructions on your person. To address the second situation, we took pictures of spells on our phones and largely ignored spellbooks afterwards

  • @patrickoshea2525
    @patrickoshea2525 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think my favourite ‘cameras are a thing’ moment was in a Star Wars RPG where we managed to pull off a successful raid on an Imperial facility, no losses or even serious injury, and as we were headed back to our getaway ship, the GM asked “So…did anyone think to wear a mask or anything?”
    To our credit, we all admitted that we hadn’t thought of that. And the chase was on!
    Loved this episode!

  • @zidahya
    @zidahya ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Maybe they burned down a building"
    *Harry Dresden vibes intesifies*

  • @cadenceclearwater4340
    @cadenceclearwater4340 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Perhaps a critical hit won't kill a player, but the phone in their chest pocket deflects the blow.
    Saving them, destroying their tech.

    • @luska5522
      @luska5522 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why desenpower a player with from a basic stuff like a phone? He can just buy another one

    • @cadenceclearwater4340
      @cadenceclearwater4340 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@luska5522 He can. But he may have to wait 2 hours for the initial updates to finish 😏

    • @spacedinosaur8733
      @spacedinosaur8733 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cadenceclearwater4340 Or wait for the store to open. Hopefully they got the full warranty.

    • @cadenceclearwater4340
      @cadenceclearwater4340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spacedinosaur8733 or they could break in 😬

    • @jaredragland4707
      @jaredragland4707 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loss of cat videos entails loss of sanity. Doesn't matter what genre you're playing.

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    im impressed you know some if that stuff about older records! I worked at a research library for a bit over covid, and we used that time to digitize a lot of stuff you would think would be already be there. like records from the 1700s and 1800s.
    there is a lot of stuff that isnt there just because it takes real man hours to translate physical material to digital.
    and internet literacy and navigation is definitely a learned skill. knowing what forums or subforms are good or bad for x topic, where to even find them, or what to even search for and whats legit.

    • @Tetrahedral-Justin
      @Tetrahedral-Justin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did an internship this summer where I digitized early 20th century medical records. Even with a specialized scanner, it took a *long* time to scan everything properly. Like, a few weeks of work. And even then, the end result was a folder of TIFF files (albeit in order) that someone else had to make searchable. The records weren't even that old, only a century or so, but I still had to be careful not to damage the original.

    • @paleposter
      @paleposter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I helped an archivist over a summer or so a few years ago, and even stuff from say 50 years ago needed to be put into the system. Definitely a lot of specific things related to counties and smaller areas that can be googled out there.

  • @andyraff4465
    @andyraff4465 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Great video. When I'm running a modern game I just let the players use their personal phones to check the internet. Had a great Mage:Awakening campaign in which the PCs knew the *mundane* stuff about what was going on but still needed their skill rolls to know the *magic* stuff that lead into.

    • @luska5522
      @luska5522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's how you do it.

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Depends on the year of the campaign. Search engines were allowed to get accurate results pre-2014. But if you're playing in 2022 it's completely fine to let them use their own phones. They're not very likely to find anything useful.

    • @Caitlin_TheGreat
      @Caitlin_TheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SymmetricalDocking Yeah, that's something that few people would have predicted back in the 00's or early 10's --- the modern internet is very, very difficult to get true information from. You can do it, but it really is a special skillset that has to be developed and it can be very time consuming to comb through a mountain of information that is largely false or half-true to figure out what's actually useful and accurate -- and have to figure out what sort of extreme biases may be at play that also can warp the validity of the info. And paywalls... which themselves are no indication of accurate information, really, just that the information is being monetized.

    • @thevoidcritter
      @thevoidcritter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is more or less how I do things for my Vampire: the Masquerade campaign

  • @robinrichardson5243
    @robinrichardson5243 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Other episodes of this series...
    * Pre-writing age adventures that would have been solved with writing
    * Bronze age adventures that would have been solved with iron age metallurgy
    * Renaissance adventures that would have been solved with electricity
    Etc... (LOL)
    Regardless, thank you for another thought-provoking & inspirational video essay!

  • @kxx6626
    @kxx6626 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Seth my only complaint for your channel is the fact that I can not stop watching it. I am starting a traveller campaign rn, and this was extremely helpfull. Keep up the good work!

  • @l0stndamned
    @l0stndamned ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Some very good points there.
    I've used the DNA after a fight thing in an urban fantasy game a few years ago. The party were breaking into a bank at night to find a relic hidden there only to find a gang of fae working for the Big Bad was also trying to break in at the same time. Much fighting ensued, leading to all bar one of the party taking wounds before the enemy went down. The players thought they'd come up with a plan to make it look like the gang killed each-other due to in-fighting. I later revealed that no-one believed this as not only were some items missing from the vault but there was plenty of forensic evidence that the players hadn't bothered to clear up like blood-stains and shell-casings. This was a problem as one of the PCs had a drawback that meant the FBI had her DNA on file. Oddly the character who didn't get wounded was the one with no blood to leave behind (he was a gargoyle).

  • @JustinAquino
    @JustinAquino ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is more like bringing the GM's research skill up to date. When you mentioned allowing them to use hacking, I realize the GM needs to learn the limits of what is the typical practice.

  • @jovax0450
    @jovax0450 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lmao i love how at 13:58 you can see all three of the players swearing at the realization of what they just learned

  • @sethtruesdale1848
    @sethtruesdale1848 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I once had a call of cthulhu campaign centered around a mind altering video that had gone viral online and a large chunk of that adventure was avoiding seeing this video as it started even appearing on bilboards and the news as the virus spread further throughout the city, ultimately leading to its victims trying to hold the PCs down and force them to watch

  • @jingbot1071
    @jingbot1071 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This is why Mike Pondsmith's "fragmented internet" idea is genius.

    • @reifuTD
      @reifuTD ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The makes sense, Now a days what we know as the internet data base, servers are like over seas like in china or something. A world full world war breaks out the internet as we know it is gone and the data base would have to be decentralized specially if wideband commination gets blocked. I like the dystopian idea of like their being a sever in New York and a server in LA and to share data from one to the other someone in a server truck would have to download from New York drive to LA and Upload, redownload and drive back to New York to upload there.

    • @jingbot1071
      @jingbot1071 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@reifuTD That's an entire campaign, right there. Thanks.

    • @Wendelvendel
      @Wendelvendel ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This also works really well for traveller. Good shout

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I love the idea of PCs trying to intercept the mobile server truck to either install or delete something before it arrives. Difficult part is pulling it off without anyone knowing they were ever there.

    • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
      @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@reifuTD dude read about BBS. I imagine this working in a very similar system! and really, as @aegone said up there, that would work very well for Traveller!!!

  • @Dragoon7485
    @Dragoon7485 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is something I really like about the Dresden system in particular -- exposure to magic tends to break anything more complicated than an old car, so the characters can almost never rely on cell phones or the internet unless they go on a mini-sidequest to talk to someone and get them to do it.

  • @drskelebone
    @drskelebone ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That is 100% my first cell phone as well. I lost it when I had to use it wedge a door shut to keep a bunch of Mi-Go trapped in the office building while we escaped via car. I miss that phone, but rest easy knowing those Mi-Go have never escaped that building.

  • @deboragrenzel5201
    @deboragrenzel5201 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I posted this in another comment, but I want people to see it, so I'm posting it here again:
    As a GM who has successfully run Intimate Encounters, I have an idea for other GMs (players, look away):
    in the original scenario, the monster is always looking for victims of the opposite sex, making him kind of heterossexual. This didn't make sense to me, since the creature wasn't even human. So I mixed up the prior victims, making him "kind of" bissexual. Without knowing anything about the scenario, one of my players had decided to have a fat character. So when they figured the bad guy was using a dating app (I also changed it to Tinder, because it's the main one people use in Brazil, or at least where I live), they decided to use him as bate. At first I didn't love the idea, but then they got 1 in the luck roll, and they were in the correct area, and it was soooo much fuuuuuun watching my player try to flirt in a closed motel room with a person he thought was a human serial killer. It was so worth it I would definitely recommend to every GM who runs this adventure!

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much. I've got this comment copied and will be sharing it in my eventual review for the adventure.

  • @TipsyFlipper
    @TipsyFlipper ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love watching Magnum PI but could you imagine how short every episode would have been if Magnum had a cell phone instead of just red Ferrari-ing everywhere.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Magnum on the phone, "Hi, I need to report a crime..."
      Operator, "I'm sorry, I can't understand you. I can only hear a rustling noise."
      Magnum, "Darn, foiled, by my luxurious moustache, once more!"

    • @TipsyFlipper
      @TipsyFlipper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@euansmith3699 Yes... the wind blasting through the convertible across the lip bush would probably ruin reception 🤣😂🤣

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm reminded of MAD magazines parody...Dumbass Magnumb

  • @captainhuman
    @captainhuman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the first games I played with my current group was an urban fantasy game where we played as members of an organization dedicated to keeping the supernatural a secret and containing or destroying hostile monsters and mages. Think SCP Foundation, if you’re familiar. One of the most memorable parts of that game was when, during our investigation of a “miracle healer” in a rural town, we had to deal with a group of reporters who’d come to cover that same story. The modern day setting was what made this encounter interesting: we knew that as soon as the event was over, they’d be able to send their recordings back to the station where we wouldn’t be able to stop them being released. But, if anyone caught us trying to sabotage the footage, we risked being recorded ourselves. So we had a ticking clock for the operation while still needing perfect stealth.
    I’m actually very proud of how we handled it as players. Once we got access to the news vans, we realized that stopping the recording entirely without the camera operators noticing would be extremely difficult. So, inspired by the infamous blurriness of every real life cryptid photo, we just had our hacker turn the resolution on the recording down from 1440p to 140p. The footage was completely unusable, and it was subtle enough that the reporters had no idea until it was too late to do anything about it.

  • @Zulk_RS
    @Zulk_RS ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm planning to run my very first Shadowrun game after years of running only 5E DnD so this video is really helpful.

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best of luck.

    • @Zulk_RS
      @Zulk_RS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SSkorkowsky Thanks man.

    • @UndeadGirlCyber
      @UndeadGirlCyber ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Zulk_RS If you're running SR 5e and need resources to make prepping easier, let me know. I wrote myself a document that calculates host attributes, spirit attributes and makes balancing the difficulty of character sheets for enemies slightly easier (by tying professionality rating to set attribute and skill points). Love the game, but the rule book is so badly edited and hard to get into ;_;

    • @Zulk_RS
      @Zulk_RS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UndeadGirlCyber Thank you for the offer. I actually finished running the game by now. It was a very short one-shot where my one player that agreed to play had to figure out who kidnapped an pop singer and then rescue her from the Eye-Fivers. And I agree, the rules are really hard to get into. I think I had to homebrew some rules in and out just to make sure combat doesn't take forever (No more rolling initiative every turn; consecutive attacks don't give the -1 to dodge; groups of enemies of the same stats just act as a group together)

    • @UndeadGirlCyber
      @UndeadGirlCyber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zulk_RS Aye, alright :) yeh, good idea with the house rules. And the hook sounds very fun! I hope you had a great time.

  • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
    @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    at my table we are playing a game that takes place in the present and in the city where i live, one thing i have been doing is using information that my players can search the internet in real life to create my creatures and mysteries, being able to find relevant information or not . another thing I did was create some blogs with stories about the world, with photohop handouts of old newspapers, photos of places and such

    • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
      @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, sorry​ Seth, I understand that you prefer that we don't post links, I won't do it again, sorry
      by the way, great video!!!
      using modern technology in game is difficult but very interesting, just in our latest adventures my players checked whatsap conversations to find out who suspects were talking to and what, used a video of a girl singing to identify a ghost, in addition to using some of the blogs I created for our campaign with information about the history of the region, Photoshopped handouts of old newspapers and photos of places

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did some link of yours not post? Cause I didn't delete anything.

    • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
      @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SSkorkowsky no problems, but it was nothing important, it was the blog link I mentioned in the comment above
      I thought it was you, because the previous comment was gone too, sorry for assuming, but now I think it's youtube itself
      by the way, nothing to do with it: your content is great!!!

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries. I'd have assumed it, too. Sometimes TH-cam flags stuff for me to approve. Other times I never know something got deleted unless someone mentions it.

    • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
      @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SSkorkowsky anyway, I will avoid links from now on, even if they are broken, it seems, if only to give you less trouble in approving or not a comment!😊
      but it's a shame, i was so proud of the journal i made in photoshop, hahahaha
      anyway, it's always great to have a new video of yours to watch

  • @elianisthebrave6988
    @elianisthebrave6988 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My upcoming pathfinder 2e game is set in a 'modern' time of Golarion, so having more advice to run technology is always nice.

  • @starship2277
    @starship2277 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ran a Delta Green scenario set in July 2016 and my players used Pokemon Go as a bit of social engineering. They got contacts at the NSA to make the town a hot spot of rare Pokemon and posted it on Reddit. This being the peak of the Pokemon go phase hundreds of people flooded the town giving them more cover to do their investigation. It was amazing

  • @WoobooRidesAgain
    @WoobooRidesAgain ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The first thought I had when it came to your intro was that a lot of people just sort of expect a Google Translate on an ancient language would work flawlessly, when in reality, languages - especially ancient pictographic languages - require additional cultural context to get a full understanding. Many languages even have words and concepts that don't translate clearly. And even if you can, that context may be specific or even completely altered with the passing of centuries. This is why Ancient Egyptian was nigh-indecipherable until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone, because so much of it required understanding the context of images created by a culture that no longer exists, which only became possible once we discovered a translation into extant or more well-documented languages.
    And the kicker of it is, machine translation is _really_ bad at picking up on this, because even the most advanced modern computers lack cultural or linguistic context for things like slang terms or metaphor. Good example being how early machine translation would take a metaphor like "out of sight, out of mind" and turn them into things like "in the place where it is not visible, from the heart". Modern translators are better, but tend to struggle if the languages aren't directly linguistically related (i.e: Spanish to Italian vs. Spanish to Japanese).
    So the example in the intro could easily see the player getting a translation result like "The white birds of Set who arrive on the birth of Thoth during the Flood" and either having to roll Ancient Egyptian to get a better idea of the context, or waste potentially valuable time to send that to someone who would know what the context of that means.

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. The reliability of whatever information that technology yields should always be suspect.

  • @bossman4799
    @bossman4799 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video will be really useful. I just started a modern day Call of Cthulhu game so I’ll have to navigate the players tech use. One player is a hacker, so I plan to place some obstacles for them. They did just finish a scenario where they didn’t have a signal, but they are government agents and were sealed in a facility with some other characters for security purposes so it made sense to everyone.

  • @UnwalledGarden
    @UnwalledGarden ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As short format videos infect other TH-cam channels, I’m grateful for your continued full length and in depth videos. They never fail to both inform and entertain.

  • @katking9574
    @katking9574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    use supernatural as a good example of how to reconcile technology with paranormal stuff.

  • @songsayswhat
    @songsayswhat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's a great real world example. I had to get a copy of my high school diploma (don't ask me why since I have a college degree, but workplace wanted it). I went to school out of state. Contacted my old high school only to find out that all records had been sent to the local Department of Education which had a storage fire 10 years ago. All records before that time were lost.

  • @SerpenThrope
    @SerpenThrope ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm kind of shocked that You're Next is the only slasher movie I'm aware of where the villains just outright used a cell phone jammer. It's a logical fix that shows the villains have planned ahead.

  • @jshud3
    @jshud3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is also why having a time limit in a game/adventure is good... yeah you can go do all the research, fact finding and hacking you want... but in the meantime... things are happening.

  • @mrs.mccoige8257
    @mrs.mccoige8257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The technology complications are great and all, but they can go overboard quick. I was playing in a "hidden superheroes" game where the DM made life a living hell for doing anything. Everyone has cameras, you can't use any powers or you're caught. Police are called at any suspicious thing. Police helicopters, security cameras, tracking, the works. We literally couldn't do anything without three sessions of trying not to get caught and getting back undercover and trying to cover our tracks. It was soooo tedious. Obviously any DNA left behind would mean we would get immediately disappeared. It made the game completely unplayable. We either had to just say, "screw it" and go loud and just be an out superhero team and extremely public (which would just be a big "haha" to the DM and we didn't want to be player vs DM), or literally say, "Oh well, we have cool powers. Whatever. Let's just go be normal people and not follow any plots because what's the point?"

  • @FluffyTheGryphon
    @FluffyTheGryphon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is good stuff. I've got a group of players that like to play the "I hack it" game with every single thing. That was how my Star Wars game went, anyway. I'm prepping a cyberpunk game soon and I need to make sure "I hack it" isn't going to be the go-to solution for every single obstacle.

    • @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055
      @gabrielcarelidealmeida7055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i had this exact problem in a cyberpunk 2020 campaign, the player had made a netrunner very well, and usually, even by my unpreparedness, we were very young too, usually they would stop the van near the place, stand guard and the netrunner would run out to solve 90% of the problem there, what I did was create missions in places with low technology, or more analog technology, like forests or slums, I always left something that the netrunner could do, of course, but I put obstacles for him, so way that the group had to physically go somewhere to solve things, that helped a lot, with star wars and the retrofuturism of the technology of their universe is an idea very capable of working too

    • @AlbertaGeek
      @AlbertaGeek ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, let them "hack it", but homebrew random time-frames for accomplishing that.
      Player: "I hack the military-grade mainframe!"
      GM: "Okay, roll 3d6 to see how many days it takes you."

  • @williamfawkes8379
    @williamfawkes8379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone using a Nintendo Power Glove in their hacking attempt, should get some enormous bonuses, because...yes.

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you haven't seen the fever dream that is Kung Fury, you're in for a treat. That powerglove-sporting character hacks time so Kung Fury can battle Hitler.

    • @williamfawkes8379
      @williamfawkes8379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SSkorkowsky I cannot pretend that I have not seen such a film, and having seen it, my sanity has been reduced significantly. Two thumbs-up! 👍 👍

  • @rodneykelly8768
    @rodneykelly8768 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    There's an "Altered Carbon" play-through on "HyperRPG," that displays using the wireless internet within the confines of a table run. It's more a Cyberpunk type environment, but it does show the players finding information wile avoiding the authorities.

  • @justinsinke2088
    @justinsinke2088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is amazing how "turnabout is fair play" is something that both sides of the screen can forget; you have players falling into classic fantasy habits of doing things and augmenting that with modern technology, completely forgetting that they're not the only ones with access to that tech, while GMs keep the basic structure of fantasy plots which then get holes poked through them because they too forget that players can do that as well as the NPCs. I think part of it is that there's so much technology we take for granted that people can forget just how much it can affect things outside of boring, mundane uses. It's something you have to be conscientious about as opposed to fantasy or tech beyond our reach which you can't take for granted because it's not something you interact with on a daily basis, making overlooking such mundane things an easy trap to fall into. And yes, research isn't a quick and easy process, at least not when it's something potentially sensitive or relatively private. Any info that you can find in a couple minutes should at best be at the level of a clue pointing players in the right direction as opposed to a smoking gun.
    Another note on hacking is that isolated networks are a thing as well. It's not like if you have an internet connection you can access any computer in the world if your skills are "leet" enough. Sometimes you have to be on site where that information is stored to access that system, and the process of both getting on location and finding an access point can be notable challenges even before you start the proper "hacking".
    As for "calling the cavalry", there's also the issue that if the players try to tell the naked truth in a horror or supernatural plot, they might get dismissed as a prank call as well.

  • @catyear75
    @catyear75 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I keep my COC games set no later than 1970’s , and that was pretty much a one adventure thing. Happily for me my players prefer 1890’s era settings . My fave as well !

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tbh I think technology spoils horror

  • @clayfare9733
    @clayfare9733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The panicked players during the voice over looked like it took a lot of work to put together for a background joke and I just have to comment to say how great it was. Had me rolling.

  • @scottknudsen6611
    @scottknudsen6611 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very timely video for me personally. By player request we’re about to move our CoC campaign from the 1930s into the modern day and I’ve been fretting over several of the exact points you cover. Helpful stuff as always!

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure that cults and anti-cult groups would have bots monitoring internet traffic for any comments of interest and tracking them back to their source.

  • @rkfm4089
    @rkfm4089 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, great video! In a lot of ways this is really a "how to integrate 'cell phones' into modern/sci-fi settings" which by itself is an amazing GM tip.

  • @GrimDarkHalfOff
    @GrimDarkHalfOff ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tech is why for anything CoC or WoD I always go with 1990s backward for time period.

  • @woobackwednesday2299
    @woobackwednesday2299 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Impeccable timing, Seth. I am planning on running the same scenario Troy from the GCN ran for you guys in that two-shot this weekend

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best of luck! Hope you all have as much fun as we did.

  • @deboragrenzel5201
    @deboragrenzel5201 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a GM who has successfully run Intimate Encounters, I have an idea for other GMs (players, look away):
    in the original scenario, the monster is always looking for victims of the opposite sex, making him kind of heterossexual. This didn't make sense to me, since the creature wasn't even human. So I mixed up the prior victims, making him "kind of" bissexual. Without knowing anything about the scenario, one of my players had decided to have a fat character. So when they figured the bad guy was using a dating app (I also changed it to Tinder, because it's the main one people use in Brazil, or at least where I live), they decided to use him as bate. At first I didn't love the idea, but then they got 1 in the luck roll, and they were in the correct area, and it was soooo much fuuuuuun watching my player try to flirt in a closed motel room with a person he thought was a human serial killer. It was so worth it I would definitely recommend to every GM who runs this adventure!

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I get to reviewing this scenario, I'm going to mention your suggestion. I dig it.

    • @Dagroth
      @Dagroth ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think targeting the opposite gender (or opposite looking, since the monster is not human as you've said) made sense - the monster is applying the tactic, that fits its victims and is most likely to work (and majority of humans is heterosexual). Well, unless it researched its victims beforehand (I don't know the game), then of course it would be/look the gender which would work (as I said, I don't know the game, assumed some sort of shapeshifter or glamour/illusion).

  • @PrinceBoo21
    @PrinceBoo21 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This one is fantastic. This is something I personally struggle with whenever I consider writing a modern day cthulhu scenario, but I always wondered how to deal with tech in an effective way. These methods are not just logical, but very simple and easy to implement

  • @puddel9079
    @puddel9079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Party forgets about the hotel cameras? Guess it's time to blare Electric Eye as the hackers covers for the group!

  • @juddgoswick2024
    @juddgoswick2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am glad to see this. I have never been that worried about tech in my games because tech usually exacerbates conflict just as quickly as it solves it.

  • @geoffdewitt6845
    @geoffdewitt6845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a lot of DMs mistake the tension in horror and mystery scenarios as coming from a lack of information. Truth is, it should be coming from what to do with the information you have available. Besides, you should never be giving them the answer; the fun comes from putting the pieces together, not in succeeding on a check.

  • @goadfang
    @goadfang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is incredibly critical to modern gaming. The world adapts. What your players do, you can do. These are not detriments to the stories your table tells, these are enhancements to those stories. Your character exist in a living world that reacts to their actions, and thier digital reality is a reality in which those reactions occur. They can be fired for what they do. They can be reported to the police for what they do. They can be hunted down and never allowed a day of rest for what they do. The camera in their hand is no more and no less powerful than the camera held in the hand of every NPC they come across and do their crimes in front of. Mobile smart phones don't provide a one-way advantage.
    These devices are also gateways to adventure.
    They are the fixer without having to travel to the Combat zone to get the job. They are the library at the researchers finger tips, and those library searches can be traced by savvy villains in ways that used to take an inside man at the library to monitor, now it's just an algorithm. Your cultists can see their pursuers coming a mile away because they knew the keywords investigators would use to find them. In fact, your cultists intentionally set up red herrings, dead ends, and deadly traps, for those foolish enough to trust online sources to hunt them down.

  • @EzekialRagel
    @EzekialRagel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A horror movie series "V H S" does a great job making tech insidious. Perfect for CoC modern.

  • @mollywantshugs5944
    @mollywantshugs5944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also a keynote about hacking making the PCs too powerful worry: the hacking PC isn’t the only hacker around. They might be the best hacker (even that is iffy) but every community with internet access has a hacker or two walking around if not dozens or hundreds.
    They go to the police database to find information that would expose the cult only to find the cultists already got in with spyware and deleted the files the players needed. Wizards can be thwarted by other wizards, so of course hackers can be thwarted by other hackers

  • @eypandabear7483
    @eypandabear7483 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:20 A good example of this is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It went from 1997 to 2003, and throughout those years, mobile phones became more and more common in the US, but much less so in the show.

  • @GM_Darius
    @GM_Darius 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the movies I really do like the depiction of hacking is Hackers. Besides having that 90's asthetic of hacking and little gadgets that helps with it, they do show that reading code and actively hacking take time. Cause unless you have a certain virus for a certain job, macking a brand new one that can be used for whatever you're doing at that moment takes more than a few moments.

  • @dapineaple
    @dapineaple ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Technology can be a double-edged sword. I ran a modern day Dead Light for a new group of players as a test scenario to see if they would enjoy Call of Cthulhu. In the scenario I replaced the old couple with 3 college age students (2 sisters and a boyfriend). 1 of the sisters I used to illustrate how someone would act if they went insane. I made her a social media influencer and after the Dead Light killed her sister's boyfriend, she started broadcasting to her followers showing the dead body on air, saying the boyfriend abandoned her sister for someone else, and laughing at everyone freaking out. Later in the scenario I used her to move the plot forward. She ran to the house where the investigators were hiding and started screaming for help. Her screams drew the players out and she immediately stopped screaming when she saw them and stared at them with no expression. At this point a player drew his gun and shot her in the head. No questions, no provocation, just pulled the trigger. At the end of the scenario the police were now searching for the investigators because I decided the girl was streaming when she was shot, and all her followers saw this man approach the girl and shoot her.

  • @Xingmey
    @Xingmey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AKCHUALLY!
    the sketch at the start is hilarious ;)
    no worries seth, most of us got it.

    • @SSkorkowsky
      @SSkorkowsky  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I ended up removing that disclaimer comment, as the only thing worse than not being 100% clear on the internet is letting the trolls see how annoyed you're getting with their trollishness.

  • @tedgalacci8428
    @tedgalacci8428 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing to do is to introduce the common annoyances that technology brings. In one Traveller episode I had a tiny legal disclaimer scroll across the screen during a phone call. The players had to do a routine comm check to capture it.

  • @LawAbidingBird
    @LawAbidingBird ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the opposite reaction among my party when we switched to Delta Green. The group didn't really consider their cell phones and got surprised when people called 911 on them or when the GPS on their phones gave them away to local authorities.

  • @Omnathious
    @Omnathious ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A TV show had a great use of technology to being used to solve an old mystery, the characters had not accounted for words changing meanings. So the characters interpreted the clues with the modern meanings which lead them to a completely different area. Another character reminded them the clues were from a different Era and they had to use old world meaning for the words in the clues.

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox ปีที่แล้ว

    Fully agree - There are absolutely some story types and adventures that can't be done with modern or future tech, but there are a whole bunch that can only be done with modern or future tech as well. And, well, that's just true of any tech level for a setting.

  • @NoFlu
    @NoFlu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About using online communities:
    I ran The Haunting a few years back with the suggested modern day Ghost Hunter Show, you mentioned in your review, but it was a YT-Ghost hunter show, similar to the setup in Viral.
    The hook was that all these old newspaper reports about the haunted house were becoming the new hot thing on Reddit and 4chan paranormal communities, with the latter giving them a tip, that the house was located in his old hometown, and it always creeped him out. One of the Newspaper reports was an actual clue from the adventure, the others just random soft-news garbage.
    It was pretty fun, especially when they filmed themselves killing Corbitt and basically Breaking and Entering (made them roll to see how well their recording was) best shot was when the cameraman got hit by the bed attack and filmed himself falling out of the 1st floor window.
    Anyway, after they uploaded it, there were a lot of videos giving explanations for the practical/digital effects they used. Additionally, some details in their videos changed, meaning someone had edited the video online, adding signs of photoshopping/editing in it to make it look more fake.

  • @Wraithing
    @Wraithing ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent vid! - Wonder how much lack of tech integration is due to so many RPGs coming from the 80s, also using pre-cellphone movie and novel plots.

  • @ThenameisMarsh
    @ThenameisMarsh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I recently started reading your Valducan series and I gotta say, I see a lot of parallels between your tips in this video and some of the plot points in that series.
    Very good books btw, I'm loving them.

  • @sophialaird6388
    @sophialaird6388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All I can think about right now is that time my dad (back when he was in college 20 or so years ago) read through the entirety of the internet in a single day. I’m planning on using that for one of my Industrial Revolution style games

  • @shazariahl
    @shazariahl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched a great Korean cop show called Stranger where the villain impersonated the muder victim and deliberately gets caught on a dashcam to confuse and mislead the police.

  • @vertigq5126
    @vertigq5126 ปีที่แล้ว

    These suggestions were fantastic man! Thanks for the great content. Keep it up! :)

  • @Oldkingcole1125
    @Oldkingcole1125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On the translation app, a sufficiently ancient language may not translate fully and properly. The app might translate a bunch of words literally and in the order they are in the text which can make more or less sense. The players get some idea about the text without getting the full meaning.

  • @medmelancholy
    @medmelancholy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great video! Having run D&D for most of my life, even though I've always tried not to let technology in modern settings be an issue, I feel that I definitely still fell for some of these pitfalls with technology before, especially when running WoD or Cthulhu. But you've definitely given me really wonderful ideas I hadn't previously though of, so thanks a bunch.
    Seeing you talk about the enemies/monsters themselves using technology reminded me of the one Call of Cthulhu adventure I think I managed to do it right. I ran an adapted version of The Music of the Spheres (a scenario from the Stars Are Right book). Basically, an astronomical research station picks up radio signals from an outer god (Ghroth), and since they keep recording and playing these alien frequencies down here, the earth is starting to "resonate" and emit a similar "song". Which is bad news - it leads to strange weather, hallucinations, psychosis, zombielike animals and whatnot.
    In my scenario I made it so that these signals were actually creating interference and getting mixed with regular radio programming broadcast by radio antennas, resulting in the local stations to occasionally have their broadcast cut off into this warped and hellish "music". I created audio recordings for these and played them for my group when they came across these transmissions, using a mix of recordings of regular broadcasts, number stations and those planet songs recorded by NASA.
    For that entire scenario, as soon as my players figured out the connection of the supernatural events and the radio, they became absolutely terrified and paranoid of anything that could pick up signals at all. We still have a chuckle remembering one particular moment, when the car's radio began playing one of these when they were traveling. Just between us, it wasn't going to do them any harm, it was just for some exposition and flavor. But the way they freaked out was just something else, so much that after noticing that the radio couldn't be turned off (I'm a bully, I admit) they ended up ripping off the entire radio. Fun times!

  • @cvtuttle
    @cvtuttle ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video with tons of great insight. One of your best.

  • @TheJimPlays
    @TheJimPlays ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've come across the "I don't like tech/guns in RPGs" gripe before in friends and associates over the years and no matter which way I think about it I've always come to the conclusion that "In RPGs if something creates a problem you can always find a reason it's not a problem".
    Many of the complaints about phones and computers stem from their easy access to information and I basically fall into the following principle; There are always reasons that you can't just Google the secret information of the universe. Be it because major search engines are all owned by mega corps that are inevitably corrupted by the big bads, or want that sweet sweet secret knowledge and power for themselves, thus forcing the PCs to rely on dark web forums and rumors for "real" info, or if your setting has a supernatural element it could be as simple as the fact that truly supernatural things don't play well with high technology. Phones cut out, video blurs, hard drives have a tendency to corrupt when holding that info, etc.
    The beauty of this hobby is that it exists primarily in the mind, and our imagination is its only true limiting factor.

  • @MaxWriter
    @MaxWriter ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done, as always. I like these suggestions.

  • @perrygrosshans8537
    @perrygrosshans8537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! Great ideas, great solutions, just great all around. And I was killing myself laughing with the Traveler elevator meet and shoot story, lol!

  • @citcoin-official2681
    @citcoin-official2681 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fine video Seth, I'll see if I can break out a good tale from the vault for this one too.

  • @verityverri6506
    @verityverri6506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, great content and absolutely great musical taste, Seth.

  • @GryphonDes
    @GryphonDes ปีที่แล้ว

    Well thought out, insightful and fun -- just what I have come to adore about your vids! Added to my favorites for handy reference in the future too!

  • @1979benmitchell
    @1979benmitchell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My group and I tend to stay out of "Technology Laden" time frames in our games mostly because we are all in IT and would get bogged down in the details of how we would use technology to do something. Never give Engineers a chance to get into the weeds, we've literally stopped mid game to start working the math on trying to trebuchet a PC over a Palisade so we could work out the "chance of success".

  • @francisdoherty5580
    @francisdoherty5580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know in the movie Boondock Saints (1999). The characters used cleaning supplies to cover their presence at a bloody crime scene. However they missed a finger that was shot off. Thus leading 1 of the detectives to the identity of the characters.
    Physical evidence still counts during crimes.

  • @christianbraun5426
    @christianbraun5426 ปีที่แล้ว

    For Viral (which I bought folllowing your review) I made a presentation concerning all sunscriber numbers, patreons, donations and chat-comments/challenges, displaying it during the game and changing slides according to the scenario. Every player was able to see the situation in real time, simulating the characters use of their technology. Took some time preparing, but was working like a treat. There is a lot of potential using the characters technological devices by giving digital handouts on the players devices (mails, messengers, etc.)

  • @Liveforfilms
    @Liveforfilms ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this. A most useful video. Also liked the shout out to Archive 81

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic stuff, Seth!

  • @erniemiller1953
    @erniemiller1953 ปีที่แล้ว

    How cool would it be "My character searches TH-cam for a Seth Skorkowsky video on...BONESAW!"

  • @brentblake3471
    @brentblake3471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Seth, I'm working on a scenario book where this has been a recurring issue that I've struggled with how to address, and I really appreciate you covering it; couldn't have covered it at a better time!

  • @TurboWulfe
    @TurboWulfe ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, great examples. I can't thank you enough for this. I am always grateful when DM's get info from one another. Take care 😎 🤘 🍻

  • @jamespuckett9753
    @jamespuckett9753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful. Starting a Delta Green campaign in 3 weeks and I see myself looking at this a few times in the ramp up.

  • @johnfelps2573
    @johnfelps2573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha! I assumed this was going to be about VTTs and meeting apps! Us grognards remember when portacomps, wireless networks and heads up display communicators were predicted, but they didn't predict them unified in one device.

  • @sirguy6678
    @sirguy6678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! Excellent perspective from a master game master on how keepers can modernize their CoC games

  • @Wendelvendel
    @Wendelvendel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for this Seth. I've started traveller and with the setting being so huge and all the tech and trade and everything... Ergh overwhelming. This so handy in ticking off something I've been trying to work out. Especially with all of the 80's modules talking about stealing tapes of data and stuff ahahahha. Ffs also helpful for updating those modules (your notes on cameras on arcturus station are also super valuable - sorry I've got the old one and not yours :( )
    Anyway, you're great and thanks for this and so much else.

  • @tokyobear
    @tokyobear ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful for me Seth, especially as I was wondering whether to start my new mystery campaign in modern day or back in the pre-Net/mobilephone 80s. Your suggestions help me feel more confident now of starting off modern day, which is what I want to do. Loved the anecdote about shooting up the bad guys outside the elevator and then having to hide out in a flophouse. Brilliant video Seth.

  • @Dagroth
    @Dagroth ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminded me of a game I ran a while ago (picking one of the hi-tech settings for it, specifically Cyberpunk, exactly because I needed modern tech for the hook to work). In short, a person was kidnapped some 13 years ago, and police never found them or their kidnappers. Now they resurfaced in some highway clinic (where it was discovered, because of a DNA match), and the PCs were hired to find them (This fitting the "What can modern tech give you?").
    Sure, they used modern tech to help resolve it (like hacking into the clinic's security system to get that person's current looks from a camera recording), but as you said, bad guys can do that too. In a follow up game, it turned out the corporate bad guy had the PCs tagged all that time (during the original/first adventure) using military espionage drones, where they were, what were they doing, when and where to strike, etc.
    As for hacking, in said follow up game, the PCs had a netrunner examine some computer files for them. He figured out they were tampered with, but to find out who did that and what was changed, he needed the physical drives the files were obtained from (as the PCs had copies of the files). So the PCs had to get into the place, where the computers were kept, and steal the hard drives. The computer wizard helped, but couldn't do everything for them, and provided a hook for the next thing they had to do.

  • @georgecook83
    @georgecook83 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a great video. Good job man.

  • @edpistemic
    @edpistemic ปีที่แล้ว

    You are endlessly inventive! So many great ideas. Keep up all your great work.

  • @wacoglee
    @wacoglee ปีที่แล้ว

    You have some excellent thoughts here! Thank you Seth

  • @treed6038
    @treed6038 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome and useful video, packed with great ideas. Thanks!

  • @quarkbent9165
    @quarkbent9165 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your insight once more, Seth. :)
    I love the closing remark, sometimes people will only learn by their own mistakes.