Hello, from the Vajello staff we thank you for the dissemination you do about the strike, as you say, we do not want a boycott, it could affect our job, but any dissemination that we can. If someone reads this comment, just say that the salaries are low for the standard of living that exists, to the point that colleagues have to have two jobs to make ends meet. In a company that invoices millions of euros a year.
This is extremely well articulated, and it's the most comprehensive english-language description of the situation that I've seen so far. Thanks for talking about this. As the strike goes on we should continually ramp up the volume so that the workers AND the owners know that the community stands with the employees who actually make the products that we love.
I am really hoping that this doesn't get forgotten as the strike continues. Obviously my hope is that a positive resolution is made quickly, but in case it isn't we should definitely continue to talk about and spread what word we can to people in our hobby space.
Private Equity has been a pox on every industry for a while now. They care nothing for the products they sell as long as they can squeeze the highest margin possible, even if it is to the detriment of the long term health of the company they bought. Sadly, Vallejo might not be able to be saved
If you don't believe me, check the Wendover video on the topic. There is also another video by another TH-camr describing how private equity destroys companies for profit. It involves a lot of finance but at the end of the day the result is a dead company.
Oh I believe you. When making profit is the only goal it can make for some very short sighted decisions for the health of a company. Still hoping they can get a positive result and turn this around.
I hope they are lost to us, but things have to change to help support the workers there. If the worst does happen to them, having such a giant in our little hobby fall prey to this kind of management I hope would at least serve as a reminder for all our other hobby suppliers. But until that happens, lets keep supporting the workers in getting a positive resolution to move forward.
As a Spanish I 100% support my local companies. I'm so proud of Vallejo and all the history and global market they have. Sadly, the moment they sold their shares to a big investor company, this kind of issues arise. I don't know the state in which the company was or what internally was happening, but I can assume there was some serious financial problems internally. Now that a big investor company has step up, I guess the workers saw the cash flow and saw an opportunity to ask for better wages and standars, which they totally deserve. I would personally NOT boycot Vallejo, as the company itself, the workers, the Vallejo family and their products are not to blame, but the investors themselves. Also, a downfall in sales could lead to investors to stop financing or reducing budget which would only affect all us and the workers. This is an issue only the union and the company can seattle down on their own, and I'm sure they will.
Thank you so much for diving into this and taking the time to check with the workers. From my experience in the US, it's far too common to hear "well, I just won't buy that, then" as a way to somehow support workers... It's like some people can only envision crude market actions as their form of support.
It is very dependant on the nuance of the situation. In this particular case, boycotting can still show support as long as it is spreading word of the situation to others, but as you say, just not buying is not going to really help the situation. The product is also not a required commodity such as food or super expensive to produce such as a car. Not buying in the short term is not really going to be that noticed in the short term where it would do the most to help the workers.
Our Spanish counterparts seem to be very much the centre of controversy in our space. It's a shame that Vallejo has allowed things to fall behind for staff. I agree that a boycott is not the solution. Firstly, they rarely actually work. Secondly it tends to punish the 'floor' staff. Thank you for being an advocate and voice for these people. I feel that GSW has gotten away with murder over the past decade. Hopefully Vallejo resolve the matter quickly
I am hoping for a positive resolution. It would be a tragedy to lose a company that is so synonymous with our hobby to poor mismanagement and poor care for its workers.
I'm half Spanish and half British and have lived in both countries for many years and I can sort of understand the Spanish side - there is a degree of callousness in Spain towards people, almost a dismissive stance sometimes - it's that same attitude that you get from the type of people that attend bullfights. You have to know the culture and have lived there with friends and family to know about it. I'm not saying that the UK doesn't have similar problems with poor working conditions, inappropriate marketing and creative theft but Spain is particularly worse. I thought that the son Alejandro Vallejo (CEO) and the founder (father) Amendo Vallejo were better people than this.
@@RolandoRatas thank you for the insight. If it feels the right time to sell, then they are more than within their rights to do so, but selling to a Private Equity is really gambling with your legacy. I would have thought that meant something to them with over 50 years of growing the company.
@@ZombieSashimi When you sell to Private Equity, you've traded your legacy for a payout. Nobody selling to a PE cares about their legacy, only the value they can trade their "legacy" for.
From an American: I bought the entire new line of AV paints earlier this year. Partly from previous AV paint experience but mainly because of the options available AND the price. These paints are the most inexpensive paints for the quality you get. Just raise the prices Vallejo. It is that simple. A 15% increase on average would put you well below the quality competition of Citadel, Monument and Two thin coats. Focus on quality control from mfg to shipping and you'll still enjoy healthy profits. Expand the Xpress line as well. Don't raise the primers and auxiliaries too much as there's stiff competition on those.
Right now it seems more of a problem with the Private Equity who bought them out as it is not just about the salary, but how the workers are mistreated by the new management. But, I don't mind a small increase in cost as long as I knew it went to the workers.
I am happy it was helpful. The situation may change and a boycott called for to add pressure, but for now, spreading the word and putting more interest in the story to help support the workers seems to be what is needed for now.
This seems to have been quite a problem since the buy out and rebranding period. Here in Japan we have had some periods of no product with certain ranges of the paint (FX & Primer being two popular series that have been very hard to get hold of) and I heard this has been especially true in America. This is the problem with Private Equity Funds that are solely focused on making money and have no experience within the specific field of the companies they buy out.
@@ZombieSashimi Volks hasn't been able to get the 'Premium Airbrush Color' line ever. The staff at Hobby Tengoku 2 I asked about this said it was a Spain-side business decision not to offer it.
Maybe because im french and it's something we experience absolutely everyday, but i think its just a very common and little strike to get a rise. Nothing groundbreaking. That's not like in US or most countries when the workers strike it's because things are going very wrong. Cannot compare to AK, cannot compare to alllllllll the different disgusting scandals of Green Stuff World. I dont see any reason to boycott, if the workers dont want the company to fail and keep working during the strike, why anybody would be in his right mind to push the brand to fall. Times are hard after covid, prices are up all over the place, low salaries have a hard time all around the planet, those guys are lucky to have an union to be able to strike. I encourage them, and hope they success, get a good rise. Im sure their new plant will not have any security problem and anything repair with carton box so I dont really see the point on this. Good luck to them, thanks for your video that bring even more awareness to them. But guys (here im talking to the people that read me...) dont go to boycott that company for that.
I feel the best resolution is that the workers get the little they are asking for and that Vallejo doesn't lose traction in the market as I genuinely love their paints and products. I get a bit worried whether that best resolution is possible with their current owners as we are seeing lots of companies getting destroyed by Private Equity Funds' short sighted mismanagement.
I use Vallejo because it is cheaper than citadel, but their washes have somehow decreased in quality. They leave my minis looking like they are forever wet, even tho they are dry. They are glossy and I don't know how to fix it.
I have honestly never really used Vallejo washes. That is more to do with how I paint, but the one wash I did get way back I did not like. Citadel washes seem to be far better and I am sure there are other companies that have better (and cheaper) alternatives as well. But just as the other commentator replied, try using a matt varnish to knock out the shine.
In reality the extra dollar would be an extra 40 cents tax paid to the government, an extra 55 cents paid to shareholders and an extra 5 cents paid in bonuses to managers.
I also do not mind price increase on my hobby paint if I believed it would go to the workers, however, it seems clear that they were already doing well as a company with plans for expansion and management getting a greater and greater wage disparity over the workers.
When I tried them way back when, they were very glossy and I like my paints to be matte. I may go and check out the range again as they are cheap here in Japan. I have been starting to move some of my paint purchases to paints that are often used outside of miniature painting (inks, oil colours, heavy body acrylics etc.)
@@ZombieSashimi You can allways mix them with the flat base of their equivalent (hobby, color and acrysion), iirc. 5% for semi gloss and 10% for matt (but do check that, I often do the finish via top coat). I go out of my way to buy mr. Color, since it works tons better in my airbrush, vallejo takes a week or days to properly dry and no the room isn't humid.... Just bad luck it seems. I would kill for a steady supply of gaianotes metalics in europe.....
@ I will give them a test some day. May make for a good video as well. I am trying to learn metallics more these days (I usually like to paint NMM), so the gaianotes might be an idea to check out as well. Thanks for the recommendations.
L'histoire de Vallejo à côté de celle d'AK semble mineure en comparaison, ayant suivi heure par heure l'histoire d'AK, le gérant a même dit qu'il faisait ce qu'il voulait et il a ban tout le monde. Mais le souci du nazisme en Espagne c'est surtout que les espagnols en ont rien à faire, eux étaient une dictature et la majorité des gens étaient pro-Franco, les migrants post 1945 étaient de plus en plus nombreux au fil des années à ne pas s'entendre avec les exilés de la guerre civile. Du coup il n'y a jamais eu de remise en question, d'où le fait que la Légion Bleue reçoit des tas de figurines et de livres en Espagne alors que pour les espagnols qui combattaient sous les couleurs françaises il n'y a rien, et aussi le fait qu'il a fallut attendre les années 2010 (soit la période où la majorité des exilés ont disparu) pour qu'un gouvernement espagnol fasse des excuses aux exilés (ils ont fait une révolution dans les années 70 on se demande pourquoi au final) mais elles ne sont pas sincères car les espagnols parallèlement produisent de faux documentaires sur les camps de réfugiés français pour créer des preuves à charge et diluer leurs crimes sauf que c'était des camps temporaires et tous les exilés de la guerre civile n'étaient pas obligé d'y aller, et dans la France des années 30 il y'avait plein de bidonvilles ce n'est pas extraordinaire de voir que le pays n'avait pas les logements disponible pour accueillir des centaines de milliers de personnes d'un coup surtout quand le pays faisait déjà pas l'effort d'héberger ses propres habitants. Le boycott aurait ses avantages et ses inconvénients comme il a été dit dans la vidéo, mais les boycotts ne servent à rien, ça fait des dizaines d'années qu'il y'a des appels à boycott contre Amazon et Games Workshop et il ne se passe rien, le seul boycott qui a presque réussit c'est celui contre AK, où ils avaient perdu 20% de leurs abonnés facebook et au minimum leur distributeur polonais, ça a été tellement dur qu'ils ont dû bloquer les commentaires sur TH-cam et embaucher cette femme qui était inconnue de tous, pour se redonner une bonne image. Concernant le harcèlement il faut voir, les espagnols ont une pratique du travail très discutable avec peu de rigueur et peu de réflexion quand on leur demande de faire quelque chose. En général ils travaillent comme des fonctionnaires et sur Arte il y'a deux ans, des salariés de la péninsule se sont plaint que le reste de l'Europe était trop exigeante. Donc à voir dans le détail ce qui est reproché, si le fond d'investissement leur demande de se mettre sur des standards de productivité mondial ça peut être ok, après si c'est une normalisation sans les moyens adéquat pourquoi pas. Mais aujourd'hui quand on achète en Espagne on s'attend d'avoir du haut de gamme à salaire moyen et pas du moyen de gamme à salaire peu chers comme c'était avant. Concernant le danger il est existant, on peut noter que chez MIG deux personnes du trio qui avait fondé la marque ont eu un cancer et sont mortes, et les normes de production pourraient être suspectées, car il est très étrange que les deux associés soient morts de la même façon et plus au moins au même moment. De toute façon la peinture des marques de modélisme est de très bas de gamme, c'est un fait que la plupart des gens refusent de voir, mais si on regarde le tableau de durabilité des peintures une fois posées, elles se situent systématiquement dans la gamme la moins performante, alors que les gammes pour artistes sont dans le très haut de gamme avec un indice de durabilité élevé même non vernie. Chez Vallejo il y'a les deux types de peinture, il faut noter que Vallejo pour sa gamme pour artistes fait l'effort d'indiquer des indices de qualité et les ingrédients des peintures alors que pour les gammes de modélisme ils ne font pas cet effort, et aucun fabriquant dans le modélisme ne fait l'effort d'apposer ces indices et ingrédients pour ne pas avouer qu'ils vendent du bas de gamme au prix du haut de gamme. Si les gens n'étaient pas rebutés d'acheter des tubes 20 fois plus gros que ceux du modélisme qui durent déjà une demi vie, on pourrait conseiller aux gens d'acheter du Lefranc Bourgeois par exemple.
Ultimately it is up to the management of the company to make things right. If they do not, then I am afraid it will not be positive for the company or its employees.
AK are very nice paints, but I know some are also concerned about them as a company. Ultimately, it is your personal choice. I use some AK paints because I found them to be really good, but they are not readily available where I live, whereas Vallejo are.
@@hoshi314 It is. I made a video about their starter set and how good it is. I can mix almost any colour I need out of that set and I really like the flow of the paints.
Really? Don’t use the paint until they pay more? I paint little figures (1/72) and after 10 years are still on my first bottle of 99% of all my paint. If I stop using Vallejo, who will notice that. Sorry, that I cannot be more of a help.
@@rolandruesch6862 I think that is a valid reason that a boycott might not be felt, especially in the short term where it is needed. And as I said in the video, my initial reaction was a boycott, but that wasn’t really what would help. Spreading the word and getting attention on the situation seems the best way to try and help currently.
@@krautroach514 if I remember, they already had a little hike when they were rebranding with the new bottles and new paints. As you say, I don’t think people will stick with them as much if the price of the paint increases.
@ZombieSashimi that's unfortunately the case if low age workers strike. You have to be one of three things to pull it off. Skilled workers (trades), essential workers (medical or other services), or are employed by a company holding a monopoly. The customer is also often in a situation of strife so it's kind of hard to care about a random paint mixer's wages when I myself couldn't afford to support them anyway.
Ahhh internet activism. Proudly commenting using a device made with slave labour, wearing clothes made with slave labour, sitting in aur conditioned homes, consuming 200x the resources of people in impoverished nations, causing 200x the pollution with most of the impact felt in those same nations, complaining about the conditions of the people making their paints. Not a criticism of the video, haven't finished watching it, just a commentary on how ridiculous these topics are. I hope the workers can get the conditions and pay they deserve, and i hope that if they can't they can find other employment.
Now that's a pretty cynical and ridiculous statement. How else would people talk about issues like this and spread awareness? With the help of bards and messenger birds? Also, is the device you used to post such an 'intelligent' comment made out of unicorn dreams and powered by dragon farts?
@@ElGutsano no, my phone was made in the same factories as everybody else's, I just try to keep that in perspective when choosing what to be outraged by. It is a cynical statement, guilty, and more of a reaction to internet activism in general than this specific employee action so maybe not well targeted. All I know is thanks to the joys of algorithms and feeds, my TH-cam seems to have a dozen videos right now crowing about this issue as if the company is farming organs from conscious animals to produce pigments. This sort of shitty employee treatment just seems like such a widespread phenomenon that I'm surprised this has as much traction as it does, because it doesn't seem to me the company is doing anything remarkable in treating frontline employees like shit. It shouldn't be normal and people having the information to choose what manufacturers to give their business to is great, it's just fascinating that this issue resonates with people.
You're also commenting on this video using a device made with slave labour, wearing clothes made with slave labour, sitting in aur (your) (air-) conditioned home, consuming 200x the resources of people in impoverished nations. So what's your point?
The Vallejo workers themselves have asked the community to boycott the company while the strike is ongoing. This kind of talk is speaking from a bit of privilege. Listen to the workers next time you try to make a judgement call, or recommendation. Sure, some strikes actually do not call for people to boycott, others do. This one is calling for a general boycott. And honestly, we have so many options these days that it's not even a problem to do so.
I am curious, do you have a source for the call for a general boycott from the workers? According to the Spanish article about the strike it said that the strikers were very happy that people were taking notice and some had decided to boycott, but they said that they are not asking people to stop buying, but appreciate the support for the reasons behind it. What they stressed was that people share the story and keep attention on the strike in support of them.
Instead I'm going to boycott your channel for you being a socialist, promoting supporting strikes and adding to the issues hobbyists are having. Both the paint company as well as the postal service are on strike where I live. I will continue to support them through hard times, and not make judgements on business practice i'm ignorant about while located in another country.
Hello, from the Vajello staff we thank you for the dissemination you do about the strike, as you say, we do not want a boycott, it could affect our job, but any dissemination that we can. If someone reads this comment, just say that the salaries are low for the standard of living that exists, to the point that colleagues have to have two jobs to make ends meet. In a company that invoices millions of euros a year.
Thank you for sharing! Continue the fight for better wages and working conditions. I will pin this message to help any who come here see it.
This is extremely well articulated, and it's the most comprehensive english-language description of the situation that I've seen so far. Thanks for talking about this. As the strike goes on we should continually ramp up the volume so that the workers AND the owners know that the community stands with the employees who actually make the products that we love.
I am really hoping that this doesn't get forgotten as the strike continues. Obviously my hope is that a positive resolution is made quickly, but in case it isn't we should definitely continue to talk about and spread what word we can to people in our hobby space.
@@ZombieSashimi I hear ya! don't worry, we'll keep things goin as long as it's helpful to the workers 🙂
Private Equity has been a pox on every industry for a while now. They care nothing for the products they sell as long as they can squeeze the highest margin possible, even if it is to the detriment of the long term health of the company they bought. Sadly, Vallejo might not be able to be saved
If you don't believe me, check the Wendover video on the topic. There is also another video by another TH-camr describing how private equity destroys companies for profit. It involves a lot of finance but at the end of the day the result is a dead company.
Oh I believe you. When making profit is the only goal it can make for some very short sighted decisions for the health of a company. Still hoping they can get a positive result and turn this around.
I hope they are lost to us, but things have to change to help support the workers there. If the worst does happen to them, having such a giant in our little hobby fall prey to this kind of management I hope would at least serve as a reminder for all our other hobby suppliers.
But until that happens, lets keep supporting the workers in getting a positive resolution to move forward.
Private equity is cancer.
Thank you for covering this.
You're welcome. Thank you for viewing and leaving a comment. It all helps in spreading awareness.
As a Spanish I 100% support my local companies. I'm so proud of Vallejo and all the history and global market they have.
Sadly, the moment they sold their shares to a big investor company, this kind of issues arise. I don't know the state in which the company was or what internally was happening, but I can assume there was some serious financial problems internally. Now that a big investor company has step up, I guess the workers saw the cash flow and saw an opportunity to ask for better wages and standars, which they totally deserve.
I would personally NOT boycot Vallejo, as the company itself, the workers, the Vallejo family and their products are not to blame, but the investors themselves. Also, a downfall in sales could lead to investors to stop financing or reducing budget which would only affect all us and the workers. This is an issue only the union and the company can seattle down on their own, and I'm sure they will.
Thank you so much for diving into this and taking the time to check with the workers. From my experience in the US, it's far too common to hear "well, I just won't buy that, then" as a way to somehow support workers... It's like some people can only envision crude market actions as their form of support.
It is very dependant on the nuance of the situation. In this particular case, boycotting can still show support as long as it is spreading word of the situation to others, but as you say, just not buying is not going to really help the situation. The product is also not a required commodity such as food or super expensive to produce such as a car. Not buying in the short term is not really going to be that noticed in the short term where it would do the most to help the workers.
@@ZombieSashimi absolutely agree! Which is why talking to the workers is always a great idea to start with.
Thanks for the video, I hadn't heard about it until today.
@@imkycarsten You’re welcome. I hope it was informative for you.
Our Spanish counterparts seem to be very much the centre of controversy in our space.
It's a shame that Vallejo has allowed things to fall behind for staff.
I agree that a boycott is not the solution. Firstly, they rarely actually work. Secondly it tends to punish the 'floor' staff.
Thank you for being an advocate and voice for these people. I feel that GSW has gotten away with murder over the past decade. Hopefully Vallejo resolve the matter quickly
I am hoping for a positive resolution. It would be a tragedy to lose a company that is so synonymous with our hobby to poor mismanagement and poor care for its workers.
I'm half Spanish and half British and have lived in both countries for many years and I can sort of understand the Spanish side - there is a degree of callousness in Spain towards people, almost a dismissive stance sometimes - it's that same attitude that you get from the type of people that attend bullfights. You have to know the culture and have lived there with friends and family to know about it.
I'm not saying that the UK doesn't have similar problems with poor working conditions, inappropriate marketing and creative theft but Spain is particularly worse. I thought that the son Alejandro Vallejo (CEO) and the founder (father) Amendo Vallejo were better people than this.
@@RolandoRatas thank you for the insight. If it feels the right time to sell, then they are more than within their rights to do so, but selling to a Private Equity is really gambling with your legacy. I would have thought that meant something to them with over 50 years of growing the company.
@@ZombieSashimi When you sell to Private Equity, you've traded your legacy for a payout. Nobody selling to a PE cares about their legacy, only the value they can trade their "legacy" for.
From an American: I bought the entire new line of AV paints earlier this year. Partly from previous AV paint experience but mainly because of the options available AND the price. These paints are the most inexpensive paints for the quality you get. Just raise the prices Vallejo. It is that simple. A 15% increase on average would put you well below the quality competition of Citadel, Monument and Two thin coats. Focus on quality control from mfg to shipping and you'll still enjoy healthy profits. Expand the Xpress line as well. Don't raise the primers and auxiliaries too much as there's stiff competition on those.
Right now it seems more of a problem with the Private Equity who bought them out as it is not just about the salary, but how the workers are mistreated by the new management. But, I don't mind a small increase in cost as long as I knew it went to the workers.
This was very well articulated and helpful as I was going to boycott AV, so thank you very much for the added context!
I am happy it was helpful. The situation may change and a boycott called for to add pressure, but for now, spreading the word and putting more interest in the story to help support the workers seems to be what is needed for now.
My LGS doesn't stock Vallejo anymore because their restocking was atrocious they wouldn't send the paint to sell so they were cut off.
This seems to have been quite a problem since the buy out and rebranding period. Here in Japan we have had some periods of no product with certain ranges of the paint (FX & Primer being two popular series that have been very hard to get hold of) and I heard this has been especially true in America. This is the problem with Private Equity Funds that are solely focused on making money and have no experience within the specific field of the companies they buy out.
@@ZombieSashimi Volks hasn't been able to get the 'Premium Airbrush Color' line ever. The staff at Hobby Tengoku 2 I asked about this said it was a Spain-side business decision not to offer it.
Maybe because im french and it's something we experience absolutely everyday, but i think its just a very common and little strike to get a rise. Nothing groundbreaking. That's not like in US or most countries when the workers strike it's because things are going very wrong. Cannot compare to AK, cannot compare to alllllllll the different disgusting scandals of Green Stuff World. I dont see any reason to boycott, if the workers dont want the company to fail and keep working during the strike, why anybody would be in his right mind to push the brand to fall. Times are hard after covid, prices are up all over the place, low salaries have a hard time all around the planet, those guys are lucky to have an union to be able to strike. I encourage them, and hope they success, get a good rise. Im sure their new plant will not have any security problem and anything repair with carton box so I dont really see the point on this.
Good luck to them, thanks for your video that bring even more awareness to them. But guys (here im talking to the people that read me...) dont go to boycott that company for that.
I feel the best resolution is that the workers get the little they are asking for and that Vallejo doesn't lose traction in the market as I genuinely love their paints and products. I get a bit worried whether that best resolution is possible with their current owners as we are seeing lots of companies getting destroyed by Private Equity Funds' short sighted mismanagement.
I use Vallejo because it is cheaper than citadel, but their washes have somehow decreased in quality. They leave my minis looking like they are forever wet, even tho they are dry. They are glossy and I don't know how to fix it.
I accidentally used glossy nuln oil once and used matted varnish to fix it.
I have honestly never really used Vallejo washes. That is more to do with how I paint, but the one wash I did get way back I did not like. Citadel washes seem to be far better and I am sure there are other companies that have better (and cheaper) alternatives as well.
But just as the other commentator replied, try using a matt varnish to knock out the shine.
I'd rather pay an extra $1 per bottle than these people being underpaid and working in dangerous conditions.
In reality the extra dollar would be an extra 40 cents tax paid to the government, an extra 55 cents paid to shareholders and an extra 5 cents paid in bonuses to managers.
I also do not mind price increase on my hobby paint if I believed it would go to the workers, however, it seems clear that they were already doing well as a company with plans for expansion and management getting a greater and greater wage disparity over the workers.
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When I tried them way back when, they were very glossy and I like my paints to be matte. I may go and check out the range again as they are cheap here in Japan. I have been starting to move some of my paint purchases to paints that are often used outside of miniature painting (inks, oil colours, heavy body acrylics etc.)
@@ZombieSashimi
You can allways mix them with the flat base of their equivalent (hobby, color and acrysion), iirc. 5% for semi gloss and 10% for matt (but do check that, I often do the finish via top coat).
I go out of my way to buy mr. Color, since it works tons better in my airbrush, vallejo takes a week or days to properly dry and no the room isn't humid.... Just bad luck it seems.
I would kill for a steady supply of gaianotes metalics in europe.....
@ I will give them a test some day. May make for a good video as well. I am trying to learn metallics more these days (I usually like to paint NMM), so the gaianotes might be an idea to check out as well. Thanks for the recommendations.
L'histoire de Vallejo à côté de celle d'AK semble mineure en comparaison, ayant suivi heure par heure l'histoire d'AK, le gérant a même dit qu'il faisait ce qu'il voulait et il a ban tout le monde.
Mais le souci du nazisme en Espagne c'est surtout que les espagnols en ont rien à faire, eux étaient une dictature et la majorité des gens étaient pro-Franco, les migrants post 1945 étaient de plus en plus nombreux au fil des années à ne pas s'entendre avec les exilés de la guerre civile. Du coup il n'y a jamais eu de remise en question, d'où le fait que la Légion Bleue reçoit des tas de figurines et de livres en Espagne alors que pour les espagnols qui combattaient sous les couleurs françaises il n'y a rien, et aussi le fait qu'il a fallut attendre les années 2010 (soit la période où la majorité des exilés ont disparu) pour qu'un gouvernement espagnol fasse des excuses aux exilés (ils ont fait une révolution dans les années 70 on se demande pourquoi au final) mais elles ne sont pas sincères car les espagnols parallèlement produisent de faux documentaires sur les camps de réfugiés français pour créer des preuves à charge et diluer leurs crimes sauf que c'était des camps temporaires et tous les exilés de la guerre civile n'étaient pas obligé d'y aller, et dans la France des années 30 il y'avait plein de bidonvilles ce n'est pas extraordinaire de voir que le pays n'avait pas les logements disponible pour accueillir des centaines de milliers de personnes d'un coup surtout quand le pays faisait déjà pas l'effort d'héberger ses propres habitants.
Le boycott aurait ses avantages et ses inconvénients comme il a été dit dans la vidéo, mais les boycotts ne servent à rien, ça fait des dizaines d'années qu'il y'a des appels à boycott contre Amazon et Games Workshop et il ne se passe rien, le seul boycott qui a presque réussit c'est celui contre AK, où ils avaient perdu 20% de leurs abonnés facebook et au minimum leur distributeur polonais, ça a été tellement dur qu'ils ont dû bloquer les commentaires sur TH-cam et embaucher cette femme qui était inconnue de tous, pour se redonner une bonne image.
Concernant le harcèlement il faut voir, les espagnols ont une pratique du travail très discutable avec peu de rigueur et peu de réflexion quand on leur demande de faire quelque chose. En général ils travaillent comme des fonctionnaires et sur Arte il y'a deux ans, des salariés de la péninsule se sont plaint que le reste de l'Europe était trop exigeante. Donc à voir dans le détail ce qui est reproché, si le fond d'investissement leur demande de se mettre sur des standards de productivité mondial ça peut être ok, après si c'est une normalisation sans les moyens adéquat pourquoi pas. Mais aujourd'hui quand on achète en Espagne on s'attend d'avoir du haut de gamme à salaire moyen et pas du moyen de gamme à salaire peu chers comme c'était avant.
Concernant le danger il est existant, on peut noter que chez MIG deux personnes du trio qui avait fondé la marque ont eu un cancer et sont mortes, et les normes de production pourraient être suspectées, car il est très étrange que les deux associés soient morts de la même façon et plus au moins au même moment.
De toute façon la peinture des marques de modélisme est de très bas de gamme, c'est un fait que la plupart des gens refusent de voir, mais si on regarde le tableau de durabilité des peintures une fois posées, elles se situent systématiquement dans la gamme la moins performante, alors que les gammes pour artistes sont dans le très haut de gamme avec un indice de durabilité élevé même non vernie.
Chez Vallejo il y'a les deux types de peinture, il faut noter que Vallejo pour sa gamme pour artistes fait l'effort d'indiquer des indices de qualité et les ingrédients des peintures alors que pour les gammes de modélisme ils ne font pas cet effort, et aucun fabriquant dans le modélisme ne fait l'effort d'apposer ces indices et ingrédients pour ne pas avouer qu'ils vendent du bas de gamme au prix du haut de gamme.
Si les gens n'étaient pas rebutés d'acheter des tubes 20 fois plus gros que ceux du modélisme qui durent déjà une demi vie, on pourrait conseiller aux gens d'acheter du Lefranc Bourgeois par exemple.
I think the strike will have to do it's job, boycotting might just put stuff in place so things can't improve or might put Vallejo in a bad spot.
Ultimately it is up to the management of the company to make things right. If they do not, then I am afraid it will not be positive for the company or its employees.
good vide!
Thanks. Made me a bit nervous to put out this kind of video, but felt I needed to throw in my thoughts.
i guess i'll just stick to AK, might go for Vallejo for Xpress paints
AK are very nice paints, but I know some are also concerned about them as a company. Ultimately, it is your personal choice. I use some AK paints because I found them to be really good, but they are not readily available where I live, whereas Vallejo are.
@@ZombieSashimi in my area there is a store dedicated to AK already and it's cheaper by........ 3 cents? and it is a good paint brand
@@hoshi314 It is. I made a video about their starter set and how good it is. I can mix almost any colour I need out of that set and I really like the flow of the paints.
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It is a sad affair, isn't it.
Really? Don’t use the paint until they pay more? I paint little figures (1/72) and after 10 years are still on my first bottle of 99% of all my paint. If I stop using Vallejo, who will notice that. Sorry, that I cannot be more of a help.
@@rolandruesch6862 I think that is a valid reason that a boycott might not be felt, especially in the short term where it is needed. And as I said in the video, my initial reaction was a boycott, but that wasn’t really what would help. Spreading the word and getting attention on the situation seems the best way to try and help currently.
You stupid or something? Nobody is telling you not to use the paints YOU ALREADY OWN. 🤡
Whats funny is prices will increase to compensate and thus painters will migrate anyway. Best of luck though
@@krautroach514 if I remember, they already had a little hike when they were rebranding with the new bottles and new paints. As you say, I don’t think people will stick with them as much if the price of the paint increases.
@ZombieSashimi that's unfortunately the case if low age workers strike. You have to be one of three things to pull it off. Skilled workers (trades), essential workers (medical or other services), or are employed by a company holding a monopoly. The customer is also often in a situation of strife so it's kind of hard to care about a random paint mixer's wages when I myself couldn't afford to support them anyway.
@@krautroach514 get a better job than working at McDonald's 💀
@@krautroach514 unfortunately for you, Vallejo doesn't accept foodstamps for payment.
@@bigboi8369 truly unfortunate. Anyways....
I'm just gonna go ahead and buy paints I like to use because I don't care :>
Ahhh internet activism. Proudly commenting using a device made with slave labour, wearing clothes made with slave labour, sitting in aur conditioned homes, consuming 200x the resources of people in impoverished nations, causing 200x the pollution with most of the impact felt in those same nations, complaining about the conditions of the people making their paints.
Not a criticism of the video, haven't finished watching it, just a commentary on how ridiculous these topics are. I hope the workers can get the conditions and pay they deserve, and i hope that if they can't they can find other employment.
Now that's a pretty cynical and ridiculous statement. How else would people talk about issues like this and spread awareness? With the help of bards and messenger birds?
Also, is the device you used to post such an 'intelligent' comment made out of unicorn dreams and powered by dragon farts?
I bet you felt very clever saying this
@@anarchistmugwump9137 that's my secret: I always feel smart.
@@ElGutsano no, my phone was made in the same factories as everybody else's, I just try to keep that in perspective when choosing what to be outraged by. It is a cynical statement, guilty, and more of a reaction to internet activism in general than this specific employee action so maybe not well targeted. All I know is thanks to the joys of algorithms and feeds, my TH-cam seems to have a dozen videos right now crowing about this issue as if the company is farming organs from conscious animals to produce pigments. This sort of shitty employee treatment just seems like such a widespread phenomenon that I'm surprised this has as much traction as it does, because it doesn't seem to me the company is doing anything remarkable in treating frontline employees like shit. It shouldn't be normal and people having the information to choose what manufacturers to give their business to is great, it's just fascinating that this issue resonates with people.
You're also commenting on this video using a device made with slave labour, wearing clothes made with slave labour, sitting in aur (your) (air-) conditioned home, consuming 200x the resources of people in impoverished nations.
So what's your point?
The Vallejo workers themselves have asked the community to boycott the company while the strike is ongoing. This kind of talk is speaking from a bit of privilege. Listen to the workers next time you try to make a judgement call, or recommendation. Sure, some strikes actually do not call for people to boycott, others do. This one is calling for a general boycott.
And honestly, we have so many options these days that it's not even a problem to do so.
I am curious, do you have a source for the call for a general boycott from the workers? According to the Spanish article about the strike it said that the strikers were very happy that people were taking notice and some had decided to boycott, but they said that they are not asking people to stop buying, but appreciate the support for the reasons behind it. What they stressed was that people share the story and keep attention on the strike in support of them.
Instead I'm going to boycott your channel for you being a socialist, promoting supporting strikes and adding to the issues hobbyists are having. Both the paint company as well as the postal service are on strike where I live. I will continue to support them through hard times, and not make judgements on business practice i'm ignorant about while located in another country.
LMAO, you're trash