I’m baffled. My first campaigns had some tough starts, but I’ve never been in a mess like this before. And this is coming from someone who prior to Warhammer also never touched a strategy game let alone a grand strategy. Like almost every choice and decision I’m confused about. Like how has he won and lost almost as many battles? And autoresolved like 65-70% of his battles? And only occupied 20 total settlements? My first tomb kings campaign was with Settra and went terribly. But even still, I pulled it back and ended up being the very few full vortex map completeions I’ve done.
@@goodhore My overall favorite (and the video that got me started on this channel was the clan angrund campaign way back when where Skarsnik just went absolutely berserk with armies.
@Chase Moore if I remember correctly, with each dynasty researched, your research rate drops. It only increases when you get/conquer a new settlement. Which he did not in any great number.
"Every single faction should have something to do on their end turn. Something war related." Me as Durthru and my 5 alliances patiently sitting at Athel Loren waiting for the rebirth timer:🌳 👁👄👁 🌳
Loved this video. I know you are a content creator and you have to weigh the amount of views you get to the work you have to put into making a video, and for you disaster battles > disaster campaigns. Having said that, this brings back memories and the reason why i started to follow you, the Clan Angrund immigration were Skarsnik send like 10 armies to go after you, the Skarsnik campaign that you saved while he only had one minor settlement without and army, all legendary quality content. And i miss the free roasts you give during your commentary ;)
It could be the guy spend ages waiting for the siege times. "Shrugs" Anyway I am sure that the person's next campaign will be far better since he persisted 180 turns. Also I don't recommend starting on hard. It's best to start learning the campaign difficulty from normal campaign difficulty.
I agree, when i started the game i barely knew how to properly control my troops since it was my first Total War game so i got slaughtered on Hard. Now that i played a bit and got used to how to control units, formations etc i can comfortably play on higher difficulties but starting on them is just brutal.
@@999Tidus I started learning the game as Empire and that ads to the chalange since their begining is pretty hard if you don't know what you are doing.
@@999Tidus I started to learn Lizardmen recently. Not only has these guys been kind of abandoned by CA their start is pretty hard as well. I don't recommend starting to learn the game with them.
The skeletons appearing out of nowhere reminds me of the Monty Python and the Holy Grail scene when he is approaching the gate, approaching the gate, approaching the gate, BAM at the gate killing you.
I like the point someone brought up that the messy/less optimized campaigns make for a much more enjoyable watch while Legend sweats and struggles to get everything back on track. Solid content @LegendofTotalWar👌
You bring up an excellent point: -attacks from behind only really occur on the charge or against spaghetti lines. Against deep formations or blobs the enemies turn around and face them once the combat has been established for a few seconds. While you get a massive morale hit to them because of them being pinched, they dont actually take damage at an exponential rate.
Honestly this looks like someone who plays games like endless space and civilization. Where you just need minimal defences and just spam the end turn button only focusing on buildings. Because this person clearly has not expanded or done anything proactive.
On hard I often find that auto resolve does just fine if you're building armies correctly and taking good engagements, so I end up auto resolving most battles. Yes, I am lazy but its more about the loading screens than the battles themselves.
I enjoy watching disaster campaigns where there's actually campaign fixing and not just a difficult battle. Watching Legend address the player's campaign blunders as well as the consequences of said blunders is so much more interesting than an hour of swooping and kiting the AI around a battlefield.
@@constantinvalor5261 I played on hard when I started cause I’ve played TW in the past and was familiar with at least the series. Didn’t know that WH2 was a completely different meta and beast in its own at the time.
You can get Malekith up to lvl 40 by around turn 20 with rebel hunting, and then I don't mention the VC diplomacy cheese to get every plasuible lord and hero up to 40 in 1 turn... It must be a 1st time campaign.
What you need to remember is, some people are really bad at the game. Like really bad, they're super casual and struggle on anything above easy. Which is fine, I hope they enjoy playing it, but there's a wide spectrum of abilities playing every game.
I think if this was a troll campaign, Setra would have been levelled worse. He was low level and prioritised wrong, but the only straight up wasted point was the skeletal steed. This looks more like a Newby who hasn't played total war before, and has no way of knowing the things the game never tells you, like cancel your research at the start of the turn to get students, or level your heroes in the mountains to get Charnel Valley Necrotechs. Tomb kings are kind of hard to get going if you don't know what your doing.
@@MartynWilkinson45 i definitely mismanaged public order due to slave economy amd me being unfamiliar on dark elves. Didn't help mind you I got declared war on by 4 local different factions and a few turns later malus declared war one and malekith took his side and I am also putting down revolts. Probably should just start a new campaign to be fair
That skill tree for Settra looks like it was filled out by the ai rather then a person. Also, this video gives me an idea you should do an auto-resolve faction tier list.
AI: THIS PLAYERS KINDA EASY TO DEAL WITH WE cant conquer his territory. Legend loads the save file Krock gar: why is he demolishing building and disbanding lords? Oh no!
Settra with 2 points in Indomitable is the new meta now, suits the Mighty Lion of the infinite desert. The fact the player hasn't got/has lost caskets of souls is possibly the worst flaw of this campaign. Ai Terradon riders seems extremely aggresive in ambush battles
I cant take if this is on porpouse or its a new player to the game, cause even me on my first campaing with tomb kings I start pretty bad cause of the orks, but then I start to snowball everything until nehekara was enterly mine
I have a ideal for a vortex campaign with the vampire coast that’s a true pirate campaign meaning within the first 5 turns u abandon ur settlement and only rely on pirate dens and the horde mechanic of the ship to build ur army and win the final battle I can’t find a video or anything where this has been done and for someone more competent than me it could very easily be possible it relays heavily on going for the treasure and raiding all port settlements for income
Everybody shitting on the guy that sent the save as if everone here was born a master strategist and cheese connaisseur. Gotta start somewhere and only mistakes make us learn.
I won't shit on him, everyone has different levels and should enjoy their games regardless, but I have never been this bad at strategy games. Some things like research rate are pretty obvious and other things he missed are told by the in game tutorial advisers which I assume he had turned off.
Now don't get me wrong, I am a master of being a bloody turtle to the point it takes me awhile to actually take over the world. I am not an aggressive player by any means, but I usually have lords at around 30 depending on the faction I'm playing. I also do not let situations like this occur later on in the campaign. Once I have territory under my control, it's very rare that I lose it after a few turns of time spent solidifying my lands. So this campaign is not only someone who turtled without properly building up their infrastructure and armies, but they also neglected their strategic position, failing to level their lords up to at least 20 to 30. Not having nearly any good heroes is another issue, sure the right traits are important, but aside from Necrotect's various carver traits, or liche priest's knowledgeable trait, tomb prince's don't need to be chariot master for them to still be fine, in fact liche priests without knowledgeable are still fine because they're spellcasters. But Necrotects must be a carver trait, whether it be scorpion, sphinx, or ushabti if you want, they must be a carver trait because of your limited capacity for better units. It's really important to have those heroes leveled up, also helps to prevent the AI from wounding or killing them with agent actions. Being a turtle is a playstyle that's viable, but you need to be aware of what problems you will face from doing so, and be prepared for any situation that you can be prepared properly for.
I think it’d be wise for this player to watch some guides. I know this game has a lot going on. Hell I even learn some new things at 1,500hrs of game time. Oh and this is nice to have legend get it cleaned up a bit for them.
He'll have autoresolved a couple of fights on the trot, then gotten jumped by the ai while waiting for the unnecessary casualties to replenish. That is probably why his heroes are low level - autoresolve loves to kill low level heroes. Tomb kings in general aren't good for autoresolve unless you massively outnumber the enemy.
I'm suspecting the player really worked hard to get the campaign as terrible as possible ! "Hey Legend heeeeelp me !" 😂 I also thought of the 1Button respec mod a couple seconds before Legend talked about it lol
Ok ... how is Settra below level 20 on turn 185? I was really bad too when I started, but this... Its like he was standing in Khemri the entire campaign
Judging by the number of defeats, it's more likely he was dead for much of that time. Remember, Undead armies are auto-stack wiped on defeat and characters don't get XP when they're dead regardless of whether you won or lost.
I had an Ork campaign that I auto resolved most of the fights because I was able to just steam-roll the map. But yah, manual fights until you've got your stacks going and leveled.....
Legend: "He's got as many losses as victories!"
Me: Well thats means it's a well balanced campaign, right?
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
I would hope he has as many losses as defeats since they're the same thing.
Good catch, I can't work and type on TH-cam at the same time apparently 😅
I don't believe I've ever seen Legend so bewildered by a campaign, laughed so much
I’m baffled. My first campaigns had some tough starts, but I’ve never been in a mess like this before. And this is coming from someone who prior to Warhammer also never touched a strategy game let alone a grand strategy. Like almost every choice and decision I’m confused about. Like how has he won and lost almost as many battles? And autoresolved like 65-70% of his battles? And only occupied 20 total settlements? My first tomb kings campaign was with Settra and went terribly. But even still, I pulled it back and ended up being the very few full vortex map completeions I’ve done.
How about lizardmens 450+ turn campaign with only 4 factions left in the game?
My disaster campaign choice would be the Orion going to America episode, the obscene absurdity of that campaign was just so hilarious
@@goodhore My overall favorite (and the video that got me started on this channel was the clan angrund campaign way back when where Skarsnik just went absolutely berserk with armies.
@@goodhore Yeah that was a fun watch, watching legend basically play a tower defense game in Athel Loren against wave after wave of dwarf armies.
that 5% research rate really had me in stitches
@Chase Moore if I remember correctly, with each dynasty researched, your research rate drops. It only increases when you get/conquer a new settlement. Which he did not in any great number.
4:57
"What you doing Settra?"
"I rule everything"
Skaven voice "shut the fuck up, no you don't right now."
lol
Absolutely love Settras blind optimism
Best part of the video for me.
I know it’s hard to find them but I love the disaster campaigns, loved the video
I've been waiting so many moons for another
"Every single faction should have something to do on their end turn. Something war related."
Me as Durthru and my 5 alliances patiently sitting at Athel Loren waiting for the rebirth timer:🌳 👁👄👁 🌳
That got me to chuckle.
Sack city from Bastonne/Parravon?
If you play as wood elf you shouldnt attack other wood elfs you should attack brettonian factions and at first you should take the parrovon castle
Loved this video. I know you are a content creator and you have to weigh the amount of views you get to the work you have to put into making a video, and for you disaster battles > disaster campaigns. Having said that, this brings back memories and the reason why i started to follow you, the Clan Angrund immigration were Skarsnik send like 10 armies to go after you, the Skarsnik campaign that you saved while he only had one minor settlement without and army, all legendary quality content. And i miss the free roasts you give during your commentary ;)
I am going to have to watch that Clan Angrund immigration. Got any other legendary legend series/vids?
Assuming all the skeletons in the army were completely whole, as well as counting the horses I believe there were 535'686 bones in that bush.
"Absolute Mess" seems like an understatement.
It could be the guy spend ages waiting for the siege times. "Shrugs"
Anyway I am sure that the person's next campaign will be far better since he persisted 180 turns. Also I don't recommend starting on hard. It's best to start learning the campaign difficulty from normal campaign difficulty.
Hell if you aren't managing at normal there is no shame in bumping it down to easy to get the hang of it.
I agree, when i started the game i barely knew how to properly control my troops since it was my first Total War game so i got slaughtered on Hard. Now that i played a bit and got used to how to control units, formations etc i can comfortably play on higher difficulties but starting on them is just brutal.
@@999Tidus I started learning the game as Empire and that ads to the chalange since their begining is pretty hard if you don't know what you are doing.
@@redmist2195 Yeah exactly the same for me
@@999Tidus I started to learn Lizardmen recently. Not only has these guys been kind of abandoned by CA their start is pretty hard as well. I don't recommend starting to learn the game with them.
"Two thousand bones just came out of a couple of tree". That's some Ursakar E. Creed tactics right there
The 1:05:00 siege was hilarious, it's amazing how people find these stuff out! the bone bush, seems like a bush you should stay away from...
Good god the amount of battle markers on the guy's capital territory really tells the whole story, doesn't it.
How on earth is he at turn 180 and Settra is only level 19? Did he just make his best lord sit in his capital for 100 turns?
maybe you didn't see it but he has 50% win/loss and like 70 auto resolves :D
Settra does not sit idle; however when he is knock out he need 5 turns to recover.
Legend: "He didn't actually put any points in the wrong place..."
Me, Staring at the 2 points in LEADERSHIP...on SETTRA: "MADNESS, NO!"
When you started replacing lords my jaw dropped at the simplicity of the cheese
"His research rate is 5 %. Oh my go- 300 TURNS?!" :D
Ok, i spit out my drink when legend screamed "300 TURNS" jesus christ
The skeletons appearing out of nowhere reminds me of the Monty Python and the Holy Grail scene when he is approaching the gate, approaching the gate, approaching the gate, BAM at the gate killing you.
I like the point someone brought up that the messy/less optimized campaigns make for a much more enjoyable watch while Legend sweats and struggles to get everything back on track. Solid content @LegendofTotalWar👌
The messier the campaign the more fun it is to watch legend fix it to a decent campaign.
You bring up an excellent point:
-attacks from behind only really occur on the charge or against spaghetti lines. Against deep formations or blobs the enemies turn around and face them once the combat has been established for a few seconds. While you get a massive morale hit to them because of them being pinched, they dont actually take damage at an exponential rate.
Honestly this looks like someone who plays games like endless space and civilization. Where you just need minimal defences and just spam the end turn button only focusing on buildings. Because this person clearly has not expanded or done anything proactive.
On hard I often find that auto resolve does just fine if you're building armies correctly and taking good engagements, so I end up auto resolving most battles. Yes, I am lazy but its more about the loading screens than the battles themselves.
That's in the case if you know about game something, have some experience. And in this video player definitely didn't know about game much
if you have one i 100% reccomend putting the game on an SSD, cuts loading times massively and makes end turns go so much smoother
I enjoy watching disaster campaigns where there's actually campaign fixing and not just a difficult battle. Watching Legend address the player's campaign blunders as well as the consequences of said blunders is so much more interesting than an hour of swooping and kiting the AI around a battlefield.
Gotta be fun hearing a pro gag at the way you played the game xD I hope he learned some things from this video. For me it was very entertaining.
I'd toss this one in the bin and start a fresh campaign for him lmao
How would you call a person who gives up halfway through?
@@iPodiMaster *Halfway* through an 187 turn campaign? I'd call them smart
@@iPodiMaster I am really fast to reastart my campaigns. If i get bad start or caught at a bad situation in the first 50 turns? Restart!
2:02 well that's interesting that someone didn't actually waste points, but still ended up making you go "ugh"
IF this is legit campaign, I feel that no matter what Legend do, the person playing it will not handle it anyway.
If the player is smart, he will put it on normal difficulty.
This was the first campaign I did when I first started 2 years ago. Unsure why my email barely sent to him but oh well. Now a days I know what to do
@@constantinvalor5261 I played on hard when I started cause I’ve played TW in the past and was familiar with at least the series. Didn’t know that WH2 was a completely different meta and beast in its own at the time.
@@chiefster11 Legend ran out of good saving your disaster material, so he searches old e-mails for content material.
@@chiefster11 sure, my comment was just related to what Legend showed .
Level 19 by turn 185? What?
Probably just clicked end turn every time. Playing it like civilization
You can get Malekith up to lvl 40 by around turn 20 with rebel hunting, and then I don't mention the VC diplomacy cheese to get every plasuible lord and hero up to 40 in 1 turn...
It must be a 1st time campaign.
The start of this vid sounded like Gordom Ramsay arriving at a Kitchen's Nightmare restaurant.
Love it.
Disaster campaign! Nice! Good work to the dude who set this up!
This sounds like a troll campaign. No one would ignore research rate and build only skelly spears instead of getting constructs. Sheesh its in a mess.
One can really do such mistakes as a beginner. Perhaps, he doesn't even know about research rate
What you need to remember is, some people are really bad at the game. Like really bad, they're super casual and struggle on anything above easy. Which is fine, I hope they enjoy playing it, but there's a wide spectrum of abilities playing every game.
@@MrUppa i think he's totally new to grand strategy games. I mean every grand strategy player knows how important research rate or technology is
Maybe they just like skelly bois
I think if this was a troll campaign, Setra would have been levelled worse. He was low level and prioritised wrong, but the only straight up wasted point was the skeletal steed. This looks more like a Newby who hasn't played total war before, and has no way of knowing the things the game never tells you, like cancel your research at the start of the turn to get students, or level your heroes in the mountains to get Charnel Valley Necrotechs. Tomb kings are kind of hard to get going if you don't know what your doing.
"Basically everything about this needs to change" is so fucking funny lmao
22:52 Legend channeling Colonel Tigh energy.
I fucking love you, 400k subs in and you can still hear the *click* of you starting the recording hahahah
My god that research rate, Just research Dynasty to 1 turn and switch omg XD
Oh. A mega disaster campaign. Long time no see.
my boy legend out here playing skeleton rorarii auto resolve spam meta
I always really enjoy disaster campaigns. Great video!
Never thought I would say it but I got a cult of pleasure disaster campaign
In fairness, Morathi in mortal empires is a tough start. Lots of mighty neighbours. Still the most fun DE campaign.
@@MartynWilkinson45 i definitely mismanaged public order due to slave economy amd me being unfamiliar on dark elves. Didn't help mind you I got declared war on by 4 local different factions and a few turns later malus declared war one and malekith took his side and I am also putting down revolts.
Probably should just start a new campaign to be fair
With that intro, and this length. This is an Emergency Tomb Kings for Dummies, Pt 2.
I love seeing disaster campaigns
2:58 legend's inner tech-loving skaven comes out again
was so excited Sudenburg got so big, so proud of the save owner made my day,
Legend at 1:05:50 Two thousand bones just came out of just couple of trees.
Me: Thats not even 10 full skeletons...
Legend in Pain, we're laughing our ass off till stomach hurts
Oh crap, the carnosaur is actually faster than me
- Last words of a chariot driver
That skill tree for Settra looks like it was filled out by the ai rather then a person. Also, this video gives me an idea you should do an auto-resolve faction tier list.
Pictured - Mummies get jumped by dinosaurs. 2021 - colorized.
AI: THIS PLAYERS KINDA EASY TO DEAL WITH WE cant conquer his territory.
Legend loads the save file
Krock gar: why is he demolishing building and disbanding lords? Oh no!
Make Khemri great again Legend!
Legend : “I have no idea why this guy has done this…..compels me though”
lmao you litterally ambushed a siege battle. so funny xD
i could just hear the pain in his voice lookin at this guys setup lol
I lost it at the 5% research rate rofl
It feels like guy comes from other types of strategy games and didn't know about manually resolve battles
you mean like xcom?
That was a nice "Bone-Bush"
Amazing how he even managed to get to turn 185 losing every other battle.
Settra with 2 points in Indomitable is the new meta now, suits the Mighty Lion of the infinite desert.
The fact the player hasn't got/has lost caskets of souls is possibly the worst flaw of this campaign.
Ai Terradon riders seems extremely aggresive in ambush battles
This has to be a troll.... Simply cant believe he has lvl 1 and 3 heroes at turn 185... Even if they constantly die its very unlikely.
Settra is level 19 on turn 185 so... He just didn't do many battles/actions with anyone.
Kroq Gar leaving the east coast at all is the most surprising part
To be fair this is how a fight would go against bones vs lizards
I'm watching your videos in neural network translation.Very informative videos.
It's fucked up so bad, that it makes me think the campaign was manufactured
God that compaign is disgusting
… I love it!
Link the fellar your guide on tomb kings
That day you come to legend's youtube and your campaign is called "an absolute mess.
Is this yours?
3:00 Oh my g..THREE HUNDRED TURNS
Legend should do one livestream with all factions random locations mod
This feels like a setup. Someone has just spammed auto resolve and end turn to get here.
I cant take if this is on porpouse or its a new player to the game, cause even me on my first campaing with tomb kings I start pretty bad cause of the orks, but then I start to snowball everything until nehekara was enterly mine
this is a must watch
Good lord, and I thought I was bad at the game when I started
i like these vids the most battle are cool but campaign disasters i think are more helpful
I have a ideal for a vortex campaign with the vampire coast that’s a true pirate campaign meaning within the first 5 turns u abandon ur settlement and only rely on pirate dens and the horde mechanic of the ship to build ur army and win the final battle I can’t find a video or anything where this has been done and for someone more competent than me it could very easily be possible it relays heavily on going for the treasure and raiding all port settlements for income
I think they still count as a settled faction so you would need at least one territory or you take attrition
im sure that at this point those save files are deliberately made to troll Legend
Everybody shitting on the guy that sent the save as if everone here was born a master strategist and cheese connaisseur.
Gotta start somewhere and only mistakes make us learn.
If your going to start somewhere best to start on normal rather than hard.
I won't shit on him, everyone has different levels and should enjoy their games regardless, but I have never been this bad at strategy games. Some things like research rate are pretty obvious and other things he missed are told by the in game tutorial advisers which I assume he had turned off.
3 skill points in mounts for settra?
Now don't get me wrong, I am a master of being a bloody turtle to the point it takes me awhile to actually take over the world. I am not an aggressive player by any means, but I usually have lords at around 30 depending on the faction I'm playing. I also do not let situations like this occur later on in the campaign. Once I have territory under my control, it's very rare that I lose it after a few turns of time spent solidifying my lands. So this campaign is not only someone who turtled without properly building up their infrastructure and armies, but they also neglected their strategic position, failing to level their lords up to at least 20 to 30. Not having nearly any good heroes is another issue, sure the right traits are important, but aside from Necrotect's various carver traits, or liche priest's knowledgeable trait, tomb prince's don't need to be chariot master for them to still be fine, in fact liche priests without knowledgeable are still fine because they're spellcasters. But Necrotects must be a carver trait, whether it be scorpion, sphinx, or ushabti if you want, they must be a carver trait because of your limited capacity for better units. It's really important to have those heroes leveled up, also helps to prevent the AI from wounding or killing them with agent actions. Being a turtle is a playstyle that's viable, but you need to be aware of what problems you will face from doing so, and be prepared for any situation that you can be prepared properly for.
Great video!
I think it’d be wise for this player to watch some guides. I know this game has a lot going on. Hell I even learn some new things at 1,500hrs of game time.
Oh and this is nice to have legend get it cleaned up a bit for them.
6:04 and then i took personal offense. Carrion doomstacks 4 lyfe!!!!
I have so many questions about this one lol
Ask away it’s my campaign from a year and a half ago(unsure why my email barely sent but I have a feeling i know why but that’s unrelated)
@@chiefster11 I'm just curious if this was legit or just a joke.
@@CubeStarMaster legit. This was my first campaign That I did over 2 years ago.
Master move in that last siege
Legend is kinda like total war doctor
When they say the line 'Ahmar nar' it literally means 'Red hot' in Maltese :)
wtf this campaign but kudos to the person who send it . I think is not a troll campaign some new player are having a problem like this .
watching this makes me wanna play Tomb Kings in wh3 :D
How do you lose battles when autoresolving? The new system tells if you're about to lose!
If it's a full stack of enemy v a garrison or whatever, sometimes just not worth bothering with and take the L
He probably lost many battles manually too.
He'll have autoresolved a couple of fights on the trot, then gotten jumped by the ai while waiting for the unnecessary casualties to replenish. That is probably why his heroes are low level - autoresolve loves to kill low level heroes. Tomb kings in general aren't good for autoresolve unless you massively outnumber the enemy.
By turn 185 Settra should be lvl 40 and you should own almost if not all of the continent...What's going on?!
I dont Understand how anyone gets this scenarios. I have been trying for ages and even when i try i cant do it haha
Good challenge campaign for you Legend: Taurox with only autoresolved battles. Have to be really tactical with holding/sacrificing settlements.
I'm suspecting the player really worked hard to get the campaign as terrible as possible ! "Hey Legend heeeeelp me !" 😂
I also thought of the 1Button respec mod a couple seconds before Legend talked about it lol
how do i send you my disaster campaign? im at turn 250 and struggling D: i suck hahha
check the description of the video
I just love Tomb Kings man, both thematically as well as in terms of balance they are my favourite race by far. Also ... Settra RULEZ
Ok ... how is Settra below level 20 on turn 185? I was really bad too when I started, but this... Its like he was standing in Khemri the entire campaign
Judging by the number of defeats, it's more likely he was dead for much of that time. Remember, Undead armies are auto-stack wiped on defeat and characters don't get XP when they're dead regardless of whether you won or lost.
I had an Ork campaign that I auto resolved most of the fights because I was able to just steam-roll the map. But yah, manual fights until you've got your stacks going and leveled.....
Well that was top entertainment!
I recognize so much of myself in this guy 😅