Before y'all jump on the SpaceX bandwagon or start bashing Soyuz just keep in mind that the Soyuz probably has one of the best safety records for manned flight in space exploration history
Glad they are safe! I watched it live and it was so bizarre...you could clearly hear the Russian flight control communicating with the crew, saying that a booster had failed, while the NASA TV commentator continued talking over it saying everything was nominal.
Will never happen, as Communism and our Federal Republic style governments, clash at all levels, and Americans will never give up the freedoms, that we have, and the Communists will never give up their power over the people.
The problems started to develop at 3:21 of the video. Abort procedure is following 10 seconds later when animation shows 165 seconds of the launch. 4:11 (commander) "by my feelings we are at zero gravity" - they are in free fall, ballistic trajectory.
Nice to hear there was no loss of life in this ever hazardous situation. Thanks Roscosmos, and all our Russian friends for designing a backup plan for these inevitable situations. Sorry for your disappointing day and I hope for better luck next time. To many commentators here, I reply with the words of someone much smarter than myself: *"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."* -Albert Einstein (1929)
First a hole drilled in the last Soyuz spacecraft sent to ISS, now a engine failure. The first has been ruled sabotage, is someone intentionally trying to halt US and Russian cooperation in space station? We all know space travel in inherently dangerous, but the Soyuz capsules and the rockets power stack that lifts them have a terrific record of success. Now these two back to back occurrences is a little too coincidental for me. That said, these men are VERY lucky to be still alive.
Can't believe people complaining about the 'fake' CGI. Whoever said that it was supposed to be rendered in real-time? It's just synched with the mission plan so that we know what will be going on up there.
Glad the Russians know what they're doing with their launchers. Thanks to the hard work of the engineers at the control station and those who designed the rocket, 2 people have been saved today. Good job Russia ;)
To be an astronaut, you have to be extremely fit & resilient, extremely intelligent, extremely practical, fully in control of emotion, have an advanced knowledge of physics & applied sciences, be able to cope with the vast & deep loneliness of space/atmospherical loss, AND, be able to keep completely cool & 100% rational/functioning while facing immanent doom. I feel slightly less upset I didn't get a shot at it ;-)
Soyuz triggered range safety self destruct 2:39 you can tell something is wrong by the shaking of the crew and large chunks of rocket at Cross of Korolov. Also Soyuz emergency beacon has been activated along with the VOR transponder they only turn on if the crew pull the abort handle.
Agree. You can actually see a small piece of debris at 2:39 fly off and away from the rocket, prior to the separation of the strap on boosters. Also the core does look to sputter a couple of times in the run up to the incident.
no. that big plume is from the launch escape system. the four pieces furthest from the center are the boosters, and the capsule falls out of the shroud that is the les, so there's a lot of different pieces flying through the air, but an explosion would be far larger also that fire is clearly a controlled plume from an engine, not a fireball
The had up to 7Gs. In context, the Apollo launches were 6Gs, and fighter pilots go to 9Gs frequently. NFL line backers experience up to 20Gs on impact.
On Apollo the Nasa commentator sat in Mission control and saw what was going on. Poor lady here has only a timetable of what should happen when but no info of what's actually going on.
I don't get this clip. In the background you clearly hear about "Failrure/Emergency..." and stuff, the commentator is keep talking about things are super nice, and the animation is still going.
If you look closely you can see the booster yaw left and pitch up in the midst of all that chaos at staging, which would account for the strong motion experienced in the cockpit as seen in the onboard. (note: they are in a heads down attitude during launch to orbit)
It's not surprising the animation is a pre-rendered nominal depiction. The "real time" data also appears to be part of that pre-render. The acceleration profile continues to follow a normal staging and burning sequence - along with the expected velocity and distance measurements.
Interesting to see that the entire CGI part that depicts the rocket's path, altitude, speed, and distance after it is out of view of the cameras is just a prerecorded video. It didn't reflect any of the symptoms that were described and made it all look nominal.
Watching this after SpaceX launches - launch site in the middle of f*cking nowhere with tumbleweed rolling around, 50-years old rocket design with no cameras and pre-recorded animation... Feels like 1970s.
Upon returning safe we still learn this way a great example of safe space exploration due to back up plans. Relieved 😌 I applaud 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙂👍 A sigh of saying one way. Hurray very clever Sincerely & Godspeed From: LarryWhittington 🤷♂️
3 launches in sixty years has failed. Why would you need the animation to depend on real time position of the rocket when it always (except for thrre times) flies the same, perfect way?
I thought they were running through potential failure modes. When the animation shows everything working as planned and Soyuz such a reliable vehicle, you almost subconsciously reject the idea that maybe there was a failure. I was watching the stream too, and thought everything was fine even after they said "booster failure". It took another few repetitions for me to realize something went horribly wrong. Of course, in hindsight when you know that there's a failure it seems weird.
This NASA office...commentator doesn't have a clue what is happening, nor the folks in charge of the animation. To add insult to injury, the p.r. photographer is wandering around still, minutes after launch failure, snapping shots of staff who all look like they have nothing to do, besides snack and check their cell phones. Bless those two in the rocket and their support staff at the launch site. They were aware and earned their pay for the day. Welcome back to Earth! We need as many people like you down here as we can get.
The Soyuz spacecraft is safe, but every now and then something goes wrong. Fortunately the abort procedure ensured Hague and Ovchinin came out safe. Soyuz's safety record is unmatched, whereas SpaceX craft look pretty but their safety is unknown. I used to be a big booster for the private rocket industry, now I am not so sure. I welcome more manufacturers for rockets, but I don't think space travel, exploration, or colonization should be driven by or subordinated to the profit motive. Instead we should adequately fund our space programs again and keep it in democratic control.
Thank god they are ok! Listenin g to this with what sounds like morse code in the background of the women saying "booster failure" is almost haunting. Can't imagine how the crew must have felt during this!
They might have cameras, but decided not to show them for whatever reasons. Their goal is to safely transport people and cargo to the ISS, not to entertain people by live streaming it.
Remember few weeks age Soyuz capsule had two deliberately drilled holes in the hull, leaking air, that is why I was automatically thinking about foul play to discontinue ISS and US/Russia space collaboration and space exploration!!! FSB must inspect all the employees, and they must use Vostochny cosmodrome, not Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazhastan! Thank God they safely landed, all astronauts no matter the nationality are ultra brave man, and I am thanking God (and I am an agnostic) this wasn't another Columbia and Challenger shuttle story! Great decision and fast thinking by Russian commander to detach and that both US and Russian astronauts/cosmonauts are safe!! Hopefully there was no foul play as aim to discontinue ISS and US/Russia space exploration!
Between this and the hole aboard the ISS Soyuz, I'd be extremely surprised if another human crew ever launches into space. The forces arrayed against it are simply too great.
Technology at its peak....but simple mistake by us enough to abort mision...watched live...when they say initial ignition trouble in second stage and they have to abort mission sad to hear.....Best of luck for next.
The whole commentator role on the U.S. broadcasts, of NASA & SpaceX aswell, is more interference and annoyance than helpful. It does not add anything but a higher volume voice talking over actual comms. Please stop it already. It wasn't helpful in the 70's 80's and 90's. It isn't now. How do the broadcasters not realise this?
You can see the sequence of events: first, the escape tower is jettisoned (normal ops), then just as the side boosters release, a flurry of debris is seen, a quick view in the capsule showing shaking and signal losses, the cut to animation. Russians do not like to show failures in real time.
Before y'all jump on the SpaceX bandwagon or start bashing Soyuz just keep in mind that the Soyuz probably has one of the best safety records for manned flight in space exploration history
That's not how a fanboy mind works....
The spacecraft can be as safe as it gets, but if the Russians underfund their space program, the results are going to be bad eitherway.
hahahahahah
Glad they are safe! I watched it live and it was so bizarre...you could clearly hear the Russian flight control communicating with the crew, saying that a booster had failed, while the NASA TV commentator continued talking over it saying everything was nominal.
saw them shaking violently though had to go out so missed rest
Thank god the animation was fine and managed to remain nominal.
lols yes.. that was odd to watch.
Animation? It's actually filmed via a second rocket
Not really a matter to make light of, they could have both died.
Sad the booster failed, but good job to the Roscosmos team. Obviously a great launch escape system and search and rescue team.
As long as the crew is safe I don't see any lost, instead it's good experience to learn of it and correct any mistakes for future trips.
I'm glad the crew is safe !
Wouldn't it be nice if the space relationship between Russia and the West extended into Earthly affairs as well ?
no no no
It does
Will never happen, as Communism and our Federal Republic style governments, clash at all levels, and Americans will never give up the freedoms, that we have, and the Communists will never give up their power over the people.
Why does everyone thank NASA? It's Roscosmos' rocket, so you need to thank them!
The problems started to develop at 3:21 of the video. Abort procedure is following 10 seconds later when animation shows 165 seconds of the launch.
4:11 (commander) "by my feelings we are at zero gravity" - they are in free fall, ballistic trajectory.
Nice to hear there was no loss of life in this ever hazardous situation. Thanks Roscosmos, and all our Russian friends for designing a backup plan for these inevitable situations. Sorry for your disappointing day and I hope for better luck next time.
To many commentators here, I reply with the words of someone much smarter than myself:
*"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."*
-Albert Einstein (1929)
First a hole drilled in the last Soyuz spacecraft sent to ISS, now a engine failure. The first has been ruled sabotage, is someone intentionally trying to halt US and Russian cooperation in space station?
We all know space travel in inherently dangerous, but the Soyuz capsules and the rockets power stack that lifts them have a terrific record of success. Now these two back to back occurrences is a little too coincidental for me.
That said, these men are VERY lucky to be still alive.
Can't believe people complaining about the 'fake' CGI. Whoever said that it was supposed to be rendered in real-time?
It's just synched with the mission plan so that we know what will be going on up there.
People want a series of other rockets or balloons to film the launch all the way to spacedock.
It should be real-time. ULA and SpaceX telemetry, for example, is real-time.
Isn't all CGI fake?
Glad the Russians know what they're doing with their launchers. Thanks to the hard work of the engineers at the control station and those who designed the rocket, 2 people have been saved today. Good job Russia ;)
To be an astronaut, you have to be extremely fit & resilient, extremely intelligent, extremely practical, fully in control of emotion, have an advanced knowledge of physics & applied sciences, be able to cope with the vast & deep loneliness of space/atmospherical loss, AND, be able to keep completely cool & 100% rational/functioning while facing immanent doom. I feel slightly less upset I didn't get a shot at it ;-)
And here I am... screaming at a Whirlpool dishwasher for not getting my plates clean...
Wow! Safety is indeed mandatory in this operations. I'm glad they're fine.
Soyuz triggered range safety self destruct 2:39 you can tell something is wrong by the shaking of the crew and large chunks of rocket at Cross of Korolov. Also Soyuz emergency beacon has been activated along with the VOR transponder they only turn on if the crew pull the abort handle.
Agree. You can actually see a small piece of debris at 2:39 fly off and away from the rocket, prior to the separation of the strap on boosters. Also the core does look to sputter a couple of times in the run up to the incident.
this is not Hollywood movie, it's all automatic, no abort handles, no suspense shots
no. that big plume is from the launch escape system. the four pieces furthest from the center are the boosters, and the capsule falls out of the shroud that is the les, so there's a lot of different pieces flying through the air, but an explosion would be far larger also that fire is clearly a controlled plume from an engine, not a fireball
I thought Russian rockets don't have self destruct. Isn't it just the side boosters that got separated?
Glad they're all safe! They did a great job and the Soyuz is a great and reliable spacecraft.
Apparently its not.
Yeah, we just saw how reliable it is.
Damn. 'Ballistic Decent Mode' sounds like a whole lot of G's. Glad the crew is ok.
ballistic decent mode just means free fall with some horizontal velocity. when you throw a ball in the air, it falls back down in a ballistic decent.
cybersquire 15-20 if I'm correct
cybersquire oh yea. Reports were that the crew experienced 6 to 7 gs during reentry
The had up to 7Gs. In context, the Apollo launches were 6Gs, and fighter pilots go to 9Gs frequently. NFL line backers experience up to 20Gs on impact.
6.7 G was the max G force they had to sustain this time... in 1975 the abort of Soyuz 8 generated 21 G... this time was a piece of cake.
First time since 1983 and seven's time in history.
Even with lunch failure the crew still safely landed back to earth. Sojus is a beast.
I was very surprised when I watched it live..
same
Holy crap I'm barely seeing anything on the news about this but it has to be the first in flight abort of a manned spacecraft this century!
On Apollo the Nasa commentator sat in Mission control and saw what was going on. Poor lady here has only a timetable of what should happen when but no info of what's actually going on.
Good to see they made it safely back again.
2:38 oh girl ,if you would know...
I don't get this clip. In the background you clearly hear about "Failrure/Emergency..." and stuff, the commentator is keep talking about things are super nice, and the animation is still going.
Thankfully The Emergency Abort Procedures Functioned Properly & Both The Astronaut & Cosmonaut Returned To The Surface Safely...Yikes!
They'll be telling their grandkids this adventurous story for years ;-) Glad they spent the money on the proper safety backup systems
If you look closely you can see the booster yaw left and pitch up in the midst of all that chaos at staging, which would account for the strong motion experienced in the cockpit as seen in the onboard. (note: they are in a heads down attitude during launch to orbit)
Thank goodness, the crew is safe and unharmed!
Oh dear.... We are constantly reminded of how dangerous this really really is...
It's not surprising the animation is a pre-rendered nominal depiction. The "real time" data also appears to be part of that pre-render. The acceleration profile continues to follow a normal staging and burning sequence - along with the expected velocity and distance measurements.
Are you using Kerbal Space Program to run the simulation?
Russians my dear, Russians
No, minecraft
XD
Interesting to see that the entire CGI part that depicts the rocket's path, altitude, speed, and distance after it is out of view of the cameras is just a prerecorded video.
It didn't reflect any of the symptoms that were described and made it all look nominal.
Yeah to bad..
Watching this after SpaceX launches - launch site in the middle of f*cking nowhere with tumbleweed rolling around, 50-years old rocket design with no cameras and pre-recorded animation... Feels like 1970s.
2:39 You can see the escape tower launching, far earlier than a normal jettison. That really goes like a bat out of Hell, even from off the rocket.
The animation is dumb. It continues as if nothing had happened.
Yeah, because they don't expect this to happening, so it's not animated
Yes, it's preanimated.
But why it is a stored animation? It should be a real time rendered image based on telemetry data.
Viktor Vörös because the 98% of the time the rocket works that isn’t necessary.
@@Watt25 oops
I am very happy the crew are safe.
Yes . I m happy they are safe
So happy they are safe.
Thank goodness! They are alive!
Holy cow I missed this
It’s those ULA snipers at it again
Upon returning safe we still learn this way a great example of safe space exploration due to back up plans. Relieved 😌 I applaud 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙂👍
A sigh of saying one way. Hurray very clever
Sincerely & Godspeed
From: LarryWhittington
🤷♂️
Glad they are safe!
What a desaster. But nice to hear that the crew is safe.
Phew, glad they are ok. This is rocket science! All the best with the future projects!
Thank God for not being space shuttle challenger 2.0
Wow thanks they're safe 😲
Soyuz , security guarantee on flights.
I would risk my life also to do something like this. I'm glad they are ok!
Слава Богу! что Они живы! Главное это))
Why even have the animation if it has absolutely nothing to do with actual events?
John Southern because it shows what or ally happens, after all in 40 years this has only occurred twice, and both times the crews survived
I thought that, too! Why wouldn't it be real-time animation controlled by actual telemetry??
To educated us about what the designs and plans are as it happens, and what should be happening next.
3 launches in sixty years has failed. Why would you need the animation to depend on real time position of the rocket when it always (except for thrre times) flies the same, perfect way?
You hear failure, emergency, etc., and the NASA chick is all "proceeding normally...". Wth?
Anytime you hear the word Failure by ground control the second thing you hear is the astronauts poop buzzer going off 5 tables away.😁
I thought they were running through potential failure modes. When the animation shows everything working as planned and Soyuz such a reliable vehicle, you almost subconsciously reject the idea that maybe there was a failure. I was watching the stream too, and thought everything was fine even after they said "booster failure". It took another few repetitions for me to realize something went horribly wrong.
Of course, in hindsight when you know that there's a failure it seems weird.
This video is just the beginning of the launch and ends roughly 1 hour before they were rescued
Without the word "Nominal", space travel would be impossible.
Thank God! that they are alive! The main thing is))
This NASA office...commentator doesn't have a clue what is happening, nor the folks in charge of the animation. To add insult to injury, the p.r. photographer is wandering around still, minutes after launch failure, snapping shots of staff who all look like they have nothing to do, besides snack and check their cell phones.
Bless those two in the rocket and their support staff at the launch site. They were aware and earned their pay for the day. Welcome back to Earth!
We need as many people like you down here as we can get.
Thanks for the video.
Houston, we have a problem.
温小明 Moscow*
The Soyuz spacecraft is safe, but every now and then something goes wrong. Fortunately the abort procedure ensured Hague and Ovchinin came out safe. Soyuz's safety record is unmatched, whereas SpaceX craft look pretty but their safety is unknown. I used to be a big booster for the private rocket industry, now I am not so sure. I welcome more manufacturers for rockets, but I don't think space travel, exploration, or colonization should be driven by or subordinated to the profit motive. Instead we should adequately fund our space programs again and keep it in democratic control.
Close to 7 g force felt on re entry😱
Oh my God, Thank God they are okay!! I am so happy. Phew! I was so scared 😑.
Sorry about that. It wasn't safe. You did good, though. And I'm very proud of you
Is this the first soyuz launch failure in 50 years?
No.
I know a soyuz capsule failed to reach orbit a few years back, and theres been plenty of minor on orbit failures
Last mission failure was in 1983, so 35 years. Last loss of life was 1971. Truly a remarkable rocket.
last manned failure was in 1975, crew safe.
The hatch in the dome wasn’t opened, they had no choice but to abort.
Looks like a field of debris at booster sep, there is a lot more stuff flying away than just the four boosters
That was horrendous
Tks God they are ok!!!! You are the best!!
Thank god they are ok! Listenin g to this with what sounds like morse code in the background of the women saying "booster failure" is almost haunting. Can't imagine how the crew must have felt during this!
It was a nice stream but what if you stick a couple of cameras on the rocket?
Tell that to the Russians
More moving parts, more potential for issues. They are launching a crew in to space and not doing it for our entertainment
Do we get to see re entry?
They might have cameras, but decided not to show them for whatever reasons. Their goal is to safely transport people and cargo to the ISS, not to entertain people by live streaming it.
Soyuz is designed to carry extra components and personal items of astronauts/cosmonauts, so it's not a weight issue. Maybe aerodynamics?
De verdad me encanta¡ Muchas gracias NASA¡¡¡ y a todos los que han posible algo asi¡ =[]
Meu sonho é um dia ser um astronauta . mesmo parecendo impossível ainda tenho esperança.
thank god nobody is hurt....
It looked like no one in Houston knew what was going on. Don't they get real-time telemetry from the flight too?
Pre-recorded animation not showing real telemetry obviously.
Good news, I am relieved to hear that the crew is a ok.
Remember few weeks age Soyuz capsule had two deliberately drilled holes in the hull, leaking air, that is why I was automatically thinking about foul play to discontinue ISS and US/Russia space collaboration and space exploration!!!
FSB must inspect all the employees, and they must use Vostochny cosmodrome, not Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazhastan!
Thank God they safely landed, all astronauts no matter the nationality are ultra brave man, and I am thanking God (and I am an agnostic) this wasn't another Columbia and Challenger shuttle story!
Great decision and fast thinking by Russian commander to detach and that both US and Russian astronauts/cosmonauts are safe!!
Hopefully there was no foul play as aim to discontinue ISS and US/Russia space exploration!
I didn't know Baikonur was still in operation
I bet that was a wild ride.
Glad they're safe. Is this the first in-flight abort for a manned space flight? I can't think of any others...
I actually saw this live in school, but when the animation came i had to go so i didn't know they aborted :O :(
that's ok, because the animation didn't reflect the reality of the situation anyway ;)
2:33 slight zig zagging in the contrail shows something is wrong...i wished for it to be normal😟
Between this and the hole aboard the ISS Soyuz, I'd be extremely surprised if another human crew ever launches into space. The forces arrayed against it are simply too great.
thank you nasa
thanks Soyuz
Thank Space!
The guy with the camera is stressing everybody
What's with the animation?
The friggin capsule jettesoned.
Wil you post the search and rescue video
Thank YOU NASA
thanks Soyuz
I know it is a bit off topic, but why doesn't Russia have cameras and live tracking of their launch vehicles?,
Technology at its peak....but simple mistake by us enough to abort mision...watched live...when they say initial ignition trouble in second stage and they have to abort mission sad to hear.....Best of luck for next.
No cameras on the vehicle?
The whole commentator role on the U.S. broadcasts, of NASA & SpaceX aswell, is more interference and annoyance than helpful. It does not add anything but a higher volume voice talking over actual comms. Please stop it already. It wasn't helpful in the 70's 80's and 90's. It isn't now. How do the broadcasters not realise this?
You can see the sequence of events: first, the escape tower is jettisoned (normal ops), then just as the side boosters release, a flurry of debris is seen, a quick view in the capsule showing shaking and signal losses, the cut to animation. Russians do not like to show failures in real time.
I sure would like to get that booster back.
Is this the shortest stay in space of all time? They made it well past 100km.
How much Gforce do they take during ballistic decent?
Was it a "launch abort" or a "mission abort"? They seemed to have launched by all appearances.
Getting a bike to emi iz damn tough .
"Nominally" WTF don't they just say normally like normal humans.