The SaGa series is brutally hard yet exceptionally rewarding. The mechanics are very hidden and figuring out how it all works takes a bit but again, rewarding.
@@2old4gaming RS2's levelling system is perhaps worse than RS3's as it relies on Tech points AND actions taken in battle to assure growth. RS3 only requires actions in battle.
the two quests you mentioned are in a way interconnected, if you choose to bring the Professor's pets back, she'll mention a pet that is similar to the beast your being sacrificed to. If you immediately escape and talk to the Professor, she'll give you an rat poison to help fight the boss which causes all but one part of the boss to take damage every turn. With that, you attack the part of the boss that doesn't take damage to beat it.
long time SaGa fan here, main thing with these kinda games is to remember not to approach it in the same way someone would approach a traditional jrpg, SaGa games will often teach you 4 things if youre going to set yourself to enjoy them, 1- Take notes of every important thing you come across, this game somehow manages to be played like a old school rpg even in the advent of the internet, because youre pretty much blind all the way through and thats great and it feels so rewarding when you achieve anything... 2 - develop a keen eye to judge the HP of a Boss based on their damage input, enemies escalate with you, but bosses dont, so you will often stumble into places that seem to be in line with you but youre actually underleveled, so at some point you have to learn to predict how tough a boss will be based on how hard it swiped the floor with you the first time you fought it, and if its worth figthing it. 3- save save save, as you said you can save anywhere so is the ultimate tool to play the game, i highly recommend always saving in 3 separate slots (in the last safe town before taking a quest, in the moment to enter the dungeon of said quest, and then everytime you enter a new room in the place of said quest) that way you can go back to the safe spot before taking the quest anytime if its way too tough. 4 - SaGa games have more mechanics than meets the eye, most of the time you can't just bruteforce your way through bosses because the only stats that grow with you on RS3 are hp, sp and mp, you also have weapon masteries but they grow too slowly to considerate them a defining factor of a grinding session, eventually you learn how beneficial formations and magic spells are, as well equipment with elemental resistances and specific resistance skills, or if youre gonna focus a character to be more resistant to magic than physical attacks which helps you know where in a formation you are gonna place them. and p much that, happy SaGa gaming, i wished for so many years for RS2 and 3 to be localized this really feel unreal, and its quite awesome
@@rafaelbruno2128 Sounds very interesting, but certainly not for the faint of heart. Playing through Romancing SaGa 2 right now, it almost feels like problem solving. So rewarding at times, so saddening at others. Really cool.
It brings a smile to my face when I see people enjoying and loving games from the SaGa series. also I am sure you have already noticed and done it already but there is no need to restart the game each time someone loses a life point only really an issue when someone is low on them. but you can just visit an Inn and it will refill everything lifepoints included so not too much an issue there. and I believe there are a couple of items you can get that also refill lifepoints. And to get rid of certain characters that just won`t seme to leave the party just let them die. change the team formation set them in front let enemy kill them lose all life points. I had to do that before with a guy named Herman as I didn`t want him in the party but he kinda stays with you at a point refusing to leave the party just kill them. Some of these dead characters come back after a bit such as Herman who appeared again after he had died a bit later. don`t know if all of them come back but I know he is one who does. Enjoy this amazing game!
Thank you that’s super useful. I’m actually ok with my party for now. I’ve levelled them up so much that I don’t want to start over with new characters. I’ll try and figure out their quests and beat the arch fiend (hopefully!) and then try and grab new characters. Thanks for the advice
@@2old4gaming No problem this game is amazing! also depending on what characters you get each character specializes in a different weapon type and are good at sparking new techniques for that weapon type so keep that in mind if you want new attacks espcially the high tier ones. like for example Ellen one of the protagonists is great at learning new axe techniques and fists which is why I love using her she can dish a tons of damage. also I would recommend a few really useful characters to your final team 2 of them you should pick up Fairy she is great and the best bow and spear user the fairy event you will have to look up how to trigger tho it has something to do with your HP value and something else but stick around and grab her she is great and fast! another character you can and should recruit is Leonid yeah remmeber that vampire? since you mentioned his place in your video well you can get that vampire to join you!! and he is among the very best of them all for a few reasons. he comes eqipped with the best armor in the entire game and he doesn`t die he has 0 lifepoints I mean on paper he can die in battle and he will be taken out for the rest of it but he`ll never truly die. also keep in mind you can`t heal him he has to use blood suck on an ally but he shouldnt need to heal too much he is awesome! since you are Julian you can later go back during a certain quest and get that vampire to join you! but you absoultely cannot get him if you are Monica. when I first played this game I started as Monica she can`t get him out of the main protagonists. so certain characters are able to get others. the vampire is really good with Big sword attacks so he is a great choice for using the ice sword you get later in the game. so just some personal advice there a bit! heh I love Romancing SaGa and seeing this is actually making me wanna go back and play this game as a different protagonist this time.
Thanks man. I was just trying to beat Leonid’s castle but I’m still too under levelled. I got pretty far then got totally stuck at this skeleton riding a creature. I’ll go do more quests then come back. That’s also good to know about learning skills with signature weapons. I’ve probably made a mistake here because I gave my party the strongest weapons I had and so they are slowly levelling on them rather than sticking to the primary type. I might need to spend time and get them to level up on different weapons. I found the fairy village but nobody offered to join my party. I’m sure I’ll discover it in time.
@@2old4gaming Oh man don`t remind me of that skeleton thing he is hard! I have to take a look at my old Romancing SaGa 3 I think I had atleast around 500 HP or so for everyone and fought him. hmm that is where variety comes in for your characters tho be sure to level up in different weapon types skeleton type enemies are weak to fist attacks it`ll do more damage and vice versa. as for the fairy village good you are on the right path you don`t get the fairy from the village though some kind of freak show thing that appears in one of the towns at random once you reach a certain point in HP so just keep an eye out it may take some tries of going back and forth. but so far it sounds like you are doing good! keep it up. this game is absolutely amazing but boy will it destroy ya if you aren`t ready like you said good ol SaGa difficulty. oh yeah if you don`t feel like investing time into Ellen for fist techniques you can always wait and recruit Boston he is a lobster on some lobster island that joins and he specializes in fists and his learning rate for fist techniques is high. I only know a few characters and what they specialize in though there is a lot heh you`ll have to look it up but I know a few are good at certain things than others. Anyway glad you are enjoying Romancing SaGa!
Skeleton YUMI in snes version is too brutal to fight. 700HP will do fine for sure but he's not the strongest one though. Demon Azura is the strongest follow by the Dragon Fish. This two is overpower even you at 800HP. xDDD
I picked up Romancing SaGa 3 and SaGa Scarlet Grace as soon as they were released. I haven't gotten around to playing them just yet (just finishing up a game first) but I wanted Square Enix to know that people still want unique jrpgs like this. I feel like you don't see games like the SaGa series made anymore. They're more non traditional but they're not changing just to be another "main stream" title.
@@2old4gaming I know, I feel like they could've used more marketing. I thought Scarlet Grace was going to just be a quick port with just subtitles and Japanese voices but they went the whole mile with an english dub and everything and yet it still slid relatively under the radar. A physical copy would've garnered more attention though, but I don't blame them, I'm just happy we finally got it!
Love your review man. A tip I can share is that you don't need to be so cautious with your life points. There are some items that recover LP, like wild herbs, snake scent and the life potion sold on Ake.
Hands down one of the best JRPG I have played. The focus of the game is the quests and the roster of characters you can recruit. Music is top notch for a SNES game too. Also, try exploring around Formations and proper placement of characters. Don't approach an enemy running so that you don't break your formation and benefit from it like Attack, Speed, etc. up.
@@2old4gaming Formations and equipment matter so much in this game. It's refreshing that the answer to beating a hard boss isn't just 'go grind more' but instead can be to think hard and pay attention to what they do. If they spam physical attacks, use a formation that makes them target a character with good defenses and even a counter attack If they use area effect spells, use a formation that spreads your team out. Some bosses will cast spells that hit your whole party for elemental damage, but most of these bosses come after a dungeon rife with loot that protects from those elements, even if it provides lower defensive stats otherwise.
I'm glad you are enjoying this game. I already finished it twice on an SNES emulator and from my experience: 1- I strongly recomend you to only pick Herman (the guy with white hairs) when you want to fight Forneuse (the Water abyss lord), otherwise you might endup stuck with him and it's crappy stats. 2- If you stumble upon healing staffs, only keep them for the FinalBoss because this one is going to wreck you like no other JRPG FinalBoss. If you are looking for a guide, then check: RPG shrine.
Really like this first timers impression. BTW, If you walk straight south of the locked door (that asks for a ring, not a key) for a couple of screens, you'll run into an harpy in a circle of light. Stepping on it after killing her opens a shortcut to the dungeon's entrance. My experience was very similar to yours. Played it several times (never to completion) on the fan translation and i kept running into new things. I was really amazed.
Cool. Hope you enjoy it as much as I am. I am not looking for guides anymore and I recommend just playing it and trying to figure out what’s next. You’ll make mistakes probably like I did but that’s part of the fun of experimenting in the game.
Excited to see this pop up in my recommendations. Love the insights about choice and how excited that gets you--it feels like many RPG fans would be frustrated they 'missed out' because a decision they made locked them out of content. The SaGa series really doesn't hold its players' hands and has serious consequences for decisions! I'm interested to see what your thoughts are on the game when you finish it, too. I wish there was more variety between each character's story, though some characters such as Mikhail, Sarah, and Khalid get quite unique setups. I really do prefer the freeform 'open world' scenario because there's something exciting about choosing which order to do main quests in or even going someplace very dangerous early on in order to get good equipment or even chance some hard encounters for sparking new powerful moves. This sort of game really demands that you interact with the game world to figure out what is available to you, which drives a lot of talking to NPCs and feeling invested in the larger narrative--something that most RPGs don't incentivize nearly as much. I really love it. Also, for a surprise, try putting your main character in the back/reserve spot of your formation.
Haha, this review may be a good case-in-point for the proverb "different strokes for different folks." You seem very excited by the discovery aspect offered by the game's cryptic and unclear mechanics, but I think I would find that INTENSELY frustrating! Glad you're having an awesome time with the game, though! I do think I will buy it at some point, but I may wait for a sale.
You can't get rid of Bard/Poet until after you defeat an Abyss Lord (or LP kill him, killing an Abyss Lord will revive any characters you LP killed) and you can get rid of the pink haired dessert themed kid by going to Ryblov.
I will tell you this, this game is super awesome, i played this game since im a kid like early year 2000. I promise till now i even watch this game in youtube to reminisce how to play this game. I cant count how many times i finished this game with every different main character, but still my favorite main character is julian. I played this in super nintendo in japanese version. I fcking dont understand japanese yet i finished this game. Thats fcking awesome right? After emulators in PC comes, thanks that there is english version of this game in emulator so i played it again and finished it again. You need a month or years to actually finish this game with all unlocked moves, anyway there is also a formation where you could attack with combination with physical and magical attack.
Seeing as you just kept doing it for this whole video, I assume you don't know that if you enter battle while running it breaks your formation(and removes any formation buffs you might have). Also, Life Points are easy to recover in this specific SaGa game, as long as you have access to an Inn.
Good luck figuring out all the hidden hints and triggers. I am an old player from SNES version and I am interested in the new game +. Hopefully there will be new contents. But most of all, use your favorite characters :)
There's a new dungeon added, at least, and it includes some story content. NG+ carries over all equipment that isn't plot-important and keeps your mastered skills. Characters also retain their skill levels, so if you have a favorite (BOSTON) they'll become very, very powerful over multiple playthroughs.
Not sure if this game is for newcomers to the series but this is as traditional as jrpgs get. Where you explore the game and talk to towns people to hint or unlock new areas without a guide and figuring things out. This is probably one of the hardest games in the series too but I love every bit of it.
This game scares me. I want to play it because I love these graphics and gameplay. But the idea of never knowing where you're supposed to go seems daunting. Like every time you finish a question you need to go back to every single place to maybe, hopefully, trigger something that pushes the story forward? And then after that you need to do it all over again? Exploring for fun is one thing, and can be enjoyable. Running around until you find the next trigger seems stressful. It's been the main reason why I haven't bought it yet.
It can be daunting and I actually found myself making notes so I don’t forget who I spoke to where but it also feels rewarding discovering something new. It seems like new events open up when you hit a certain HP so there are triggers but you just don’t know when or where something new will pop up
A thing to remember is that not only do new quests open up when you reach a certain HP, some quests also shut off once you reach a high level of HP, presumably to punish too much mindless grinding.
I'm playing it right now and it feels so fresh to be challenged like this in an old school RPG. question though, am I "supposed" to play through NewGame+ ? I'm still on the prologue and these monsters are so hard that they pretty much require me to be significantly stronger to even come close to beating them.
Grinding helps to an extent. Monsters become stronger as you get stronger but unlocking new skills and buying stronger weapons makes a big difference later in the game. Also you will find new party members later that will be much stronger with super tough abilities. The game is always tough but you can manage it. Sometimes it may be an indication that you’ve walked into a dungeon you’re not ready for if you can’t beat enemies. Good luck!
If you like this game, The Last Remnant was much in the same vein, although it has some very different and obtuse mechanics as well. Same director, Kawazu.
Nice. Thanks for the recommendation. I have it on my wish list on switch. I’ve got a bit too many games to play right now but I’ll definitely grab it when it goes on sale
I purchased Romancing SaGa 2 on switch near release day (it snuck up on me), and will definitely be doing the same with RS3 -- although its regrettable that there's no physical release. I haven't played through much of RS2 due to being busy with life and whatnot, but I remember having a difficult time of it when I did sit down and play it. This isn't at all a turn-off, but does anyone have a break down of the game mechanics, that doesn't come at the expense of spoilers? I'm willing to accept personal explanations; or ones provided by a preferred outside source -- altho I'd prefer a personal choice, as I want something very particular, in terms of having a mechanics explanation, that still remains vague and allows me to discover the game; I simply want a hand nudging me in the dark. lol, I know its a very particular and obnoxious request, but I'd appreciate it if anyone is willing to accept this challenge!
Look back use to play in japanese, we missed alot of rare items,weapons and ammors. I still playing the snes rom though RS3. Now playing it with Iphone and it's worth it. I'm on the last stage now with all parties over 850HP. Just cleared the PHANTOM MAZE new quest and you'll fuking love it. TRUST ME THIS! No spoiler here. :DDD There's some differents in the game. All waza quite easy to learn, leveling up weapons is just ok, MP is alot harder here to level up and hardcore monster attacking is abit weaker then snes version. And I realize monster sometimes will run away from you! LOL xD
Romancing Saga 3 is very much a predecessor to SaGa Frontier in terms of gameplay and presentation. I still prefer Frontier, but RS3 is a very fun time and I'd highly recommend it if you're a fan of Frontier.
The retail digital manual is garbage unfortunately. Glad your having a good time with the game. Your videos definitely make me want to jump into it right now.
Yeah I picked it up! But please stop running towards enemies, it breaks your formation and they are an important part of the team. As for LP, it's not Romancing SaGa 2, just sleep at an inn and voila fully healed /o/. I've waited for so long to see it released and I'm having a blast. I'm happy that the general public is too. SaGa never dies!
Oh, THESE are my kind of rpgs, I could care less about ff7 remake and its mannequin "realistic" graphics. These games required a bit of imagination now everything is spoon fed and with a juvenile aesthetic I despise. I'll get this just by the "ff6 looks" and if the reviewer is right then I'm for a treat!
Ouch, I guess this game won’t be for me, although I liked FF Legend 3, and REALLY liked Legend 2 and Romancing Saga 2. The one thing I can’t stand in games in the requirement to save scum… It basically ruined Fire Emblem for me starting at about Awakening, when character death became optional, and they began balancing the game around casual mode where characters revive after battle instead of balancing it around playing the game strategically and with the threat of death.
This sounds very intriguing but the time wasting mechanics seem extremely frustrating. The things you called challenging just seem like time wasters. Regardless I appreciate the video and it does seem like an interesting game.
I'm six hours in and I quit tonight with a frown. I started with Lillian and somehow lost Monika during the ship part. After 4 hours I haven't found her or any reliable way to cure now that she's gone. Having one item per person is not useful and expensive in the long run. Completely lost on the story and the internet hasn't any guides I could find from this decade. Good grief! Going to restart and do my best to keep Monika. I think her healing may be too invaluable to do without. I dunno. Game is difficult and confusing but I'd like to make it to a part where it feels like I've progressed the story somehow.
Totally understand. It is really confusing at times but I don’t think you need to restart as things become clearer over time. Sometimes new quests won’t open until later so even if Monika is gone for now you may find her later. I am just guessing though because my experience has been totally different and like you said there aren’t guides out there for every scenario
Do keep at it! Eventually, you can find mage tutors in various towns that you can learn magic from, so anyone can learn to heal. Martial Arts also gets a self-healing technique and over the course of the game you will also find several Staff of Vitality wands that can heal your characters. As for Monika, make different decisions and it may turn out differently. Save before making those decisions in the prologue. It helps to talk to everyone in towns and, if that fails, to pay attention to your adventure journal--you can access it from the menu screen. The game rewards exploration and interaction. Pay attention and you'll find your way.
@@kekeke8988 dude... Do you know how much we usualy are paid here? 100 bucks in Brazil is a significant chunk of our monthly profit. We simply don't have the luxury to buy games often.
If you can compromise with using a guide to complete it, it's not super hard. You only need to decide from start what your final party will be and follow the quest order according to your current max HP(that's a way to guess your power level since there is no level mechanics in this game)
Part of the reward of SaGa games is figuring things out for yourself and stumbling around in the dark until you get that moment in which you know what to do. You wrest the adventure from the game so it is best to avoid walk throughs as much as you can. As he said, he crafted his own saga through completing and failing quests. A playthrough that is unique to him.
@@WPFreeinternet That's another valid point of view. As a child I did this. In fact my first playthrough was even more cryptic since I didn't even knew english back then lol.
Ungh... this game is a mess. The storytelling pratically doesnt exist and the gameplay is not intuitive at all. I am a old school jrpg gamer but there is much better games to spend my time than spending with this chaotic... mess. The first Saga frontier on ps1 is a much better romancing saga game.
In case you don’t know, running into enemies causes your formation to break. Its better to walk into enemies instead
@Anonymous You can just ALWAYS press the r button. Run away. Then engage again do you dont get ambushed
@@gogochloechannel2284 Why make it more complicated than it needs to be? Just stop running when near enemies.
....I was like WTF.....Thanks dude!
Just finished romancing saga 2 today and just learned it
I really like the aesthetic of the game. Like FF6 almost.
Main reason I bought it 👍
I personally prefer the original SFC look. The remaster has a cheap, mobile game vibe to it.
The SaGa series is brutally hard yet exceptionally rewarding. The mechanics are very hidden and figuring out how it all works takes a bit but again, rewarding.
Totally agree.
@@2old4gaming Thanks! I just watched your RS2 review, as well. Which did you prefer? RS2 or RS3 so far?
Definitely RS3. It was a while ago since I played RS2 but 3 just seems much deeper
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RS2's levelling system is perhaps worse than RS3's as it relies on Tech points AND actions taken in battle to assure growth. RS3 only requires actions in battle.
One of the best RPGs ever.
the two quests you mentioned are in a way interconnected, if you choose to bring the Professor's pets back, she'll mention a pet that is similar to the beast your being sacrificed to. If you immediately escape and talk to the Professor, she'll give you an rat poison to help fight the boss which causes all but one part of the boss to take damage every turn. With that, you attack the part of the boss that doesn't take damage to beat it.
long time SaGa fan here, main thing with these kinda games is to remember not to approach it in the same way someone would approach a traditional jrpg, SaGa games will often teach you 4 things if youre going to set yourself to enjoy them,
1- Take notes of every important thing you come across, this game somehow manages to be played like a old school rpg even in the advent of the internet, because youre pretty much blind all the way through and thats great and it feels so rewarding when you achieve anything...
2 - develop a keen eye to judge the HP of a Boss based on their damage input, enemies escalate with you, but bosses dont, so you will often stumble into places that seem to be in line with you but youre actually underleveled, so at some point you have to learn to predict how tough a boss will be based on how hard it swiped the floor with you the first time you fought it, and if its worth figthing it.
3- save save save, as you said you can save anywhere so is the ultimate tool to play the game, i highly recommend always saving in 3 separate slots (in the last safe town before taking a quest, in the moment to enter the dungeon of said quest, and then everytime you enter a new room in the place of said quest) that way you can go back to the safe spot before taking the quest anytime if its way too tough.
4 - SaGa games have more mechanics than meets the eye, most of the time you can't just bruteforce your way through bosses because the only stats that grow with you on RS3 are hp, sp and mp, you also have weapon masteries but they grow too slowly to considerate them a defining factor of a grinding session, eventually you learn how beneficial formations and magic spells are, as well equipment with elemental resistances and specific resistance skills, or if youre gonna focus a character to be more resistant to magic than physical attacks which helps you know where in a formation you are gonna place them.
and p much that, happy SaGa gaming, i wished for so many years for RS2 and 3 to be localized this really feel unreal, and its quite awesome
Really useful tips. Thank you.
sounds terrible actually
@@rafaelbruno2128 Sounds very interesting, but certainly not for the faint of heart. Playing through Romancing SaGa 2 right now, it almost feels like problem solving. So rewarding at times, so saddening at others. Really cool.
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We'll be playing this for years to come.
Romancing SaGa 3 really is an amazing JRPG from the golden age.
And it did very well, selling over 1.3 million on Super Famicom, despite how niche the series is these days.
I remember when you rest at inn, you can recover your LP on RS3, not punishing as RS2.
Never played a SaGa game before. I'm glad I started with this game. Haven't finished my first run yet and I need MORE!
It brings a smile to my face when I see people enjoying and loving games from the SaGa series. also I am sure you have already noticed and done it already but there is no need to restart the game each time someone loses a life point only really an issue when someone is low on them. but you can just visit an Inn and it will refill everything lifepoints included so not too much an issue there. and I believe there are a couple of items you can get that also refill lifepoints. And to get rid of certain characters that just won`t seme to leave the party just let them die. change the team formation set them in front let enemy kill them lose all life points. I had to do that before with a guy named Herman as I didn`t want him in the party but he kinda stays with you at a point refusing to leave the party just kill them. Some of these dead characters come back after a bit such as Herman who appeared again after he had died a bit later. don`t know if all of them come back but I know he is one who does. Enjoy this amazing game!
Thank you that’s super useful. I’m actually ok with my party for now. I’ve levelled them up so much that I don’t want to start over with new characters. I’ll try and figure out their quests and beat the arch fiend (hopefully!) and then try and grab new characters. Thanks for the advice
@@2old4gaming No problem this game is amazing! also depending on what characters you get each character specializes in a different weapon type and are good at sparking new techniques for that weapon type so keep that in mind if you want new attacks espcially the high tier ones. like for example Ellen one of the protagonists is great at learning new axe techniques and fists which is why I love using her she can dish a tons of damage.
also I would recommend a few really useful characters to your final team 2 of them you should pick up Fairy she is great and the best bow and spear user the fairy event you will have to look up how to trigger tho it has something to do with your HP value and something else but stick around and grab her she is great and fast! another character you can and should recruit is Leonid yeah remmeber that vampire? since you mentioned his place in your video well you can get that vampire to join you!! and he is among the very best of them all for a few reasons.
he comes eqipped with the best armor in the entire game and he doesn`t die he has 0 lifepoints I mean on paper he can die in battle and he will be taken out for the rest of it but he`ll never truly die. also keep in mind you can`t heal him he has to use blood suck on an ally but he shouldnt need to heal too much he is awesome! since you are Julian you can later go back during a certain quest and get that vampire to join you! but you absoultely cannot get him if you are Monica. when I first played this game I started as Monica she can`t get him out of the main protagonists. so certain characters are able to get others.
the vampire is really good with Big sword attacks so he is a great choice for using the ice sword you get later in the game. so just some personal advice there a bit! heh I love Romancing SaGa and seeing this is actually making me wanna go back and play this game as a different protagonist this time.
Thanks man. I was just trying to beat Leonid’s castle but I’m still too under levelled. I got pretty far then got totally stuck at this skeleton riding a creature. I’ll go do more quests then come back.
That’s also good to know about learning skills with signature weapons. I’ve probably made a mistake here because I gave my party the strongest weapons I had and so they are slowly levelling on them rather than sticking to the primary type. I might need to spend time and get them to level up on different weapons.
I found the fairy village but nobody offered to join my party. I’m sure I’ll discover it in time.
@@2old4gaming Oh man don`t remind me of that skeleton thing he is hard! I have to take a look at my old Romancing SaGa 3 I think I had atleast around 500 HP or so for everyone and fought him. hmm that is where variety comes in for your characters tho be sure to level up in different weapon types skeleton type enemies are weak to fist attacks it`ll do more damage and vice versa. as for the fairy village good you are on the right path you don`t get the fairy from the village though some kind of freak show thing that appears in one of the towns at random once you reach a certain point in HP so just keep an eye out it may take some tries of going back and forth. but so far it sounds like you are doing good! keep it up. this game is absolutely amazing but boy will it destroy ya if you aren`t ready like you said good ol SaGa difficulty.
oh yeah if you don`t feel like investing time into Ellen for fist techniques you can always wait and recruit Boston he is a lobster on some lobster island that joins and he specializes in fists and his learning rate for fist techniques is high. I only know a few characters and what they specialize in though there is a lot heh you`ll have to look it up but I know a few are good at certain things than others. Anyway glad you are enjoying Romancing SaGa!
Skeleton YUMI in snes version is too brutal to fight. 700HP will do fine for sure but he's not the strongest one though.
Demon Azura is the strongest follow by the Dragon Fish. This two is overpower even you at 800HP. xDDD
I picked up Romancing SaGa 3 and SaGa Scarlet Grace as soon as they were released. I haven't gotten around to playing them just yet (just finishing up a game first) but I wanted Square Enix to know that people still want unique jrpgs like this. I feel like you don't see games like the SaGa series made anymore. They're more non traditional but they're not changing just to be another "main stream" title.
I’m playing Scarlet Grace now and really enjoying it. Both games didn’t seem to get many reviews which is a shame. I agree they deserve more attention
@@2old4gaming I know, I feel like they could've used more marketing. I thought Scarlet Grace was going to just be a quick port with just subtitles and Japanese voices but they went the whole mile with an english dub and everything and yet it still slid relatively under the radar. A physical copy would've garnered more attention though, but I don't blame them, I'm just happy we finally got it!
I’m going to have a review up for Scarlet Grace soon. I’ve absolutely loved it
@@2old4gaming I'm definitely looking forward to it!
Love your review man. A tip I can share is that you don't need to be so cautious with your life points. There are some items that recover LP, like wild herbs, snake scent and the life potion sold on Ake.
Thanks man. That’s really good to know. I did notice my life points recovered at one point and I wasn’t sure why. That explains it! Thank you
Other reviews I've checked haven't mentioned a lot of this kind of stuff. Good to know. Thanks.
No problem. Glad I could help. :)
I put down Jedi Fallen Order because I couldnt stop playing this game.
I have some struggle by playing RS2 (little by little I'm completing it)...But after it I'll surely buy this one!
Hands down one of the best JRPG I have played. The focus of the game is the quests and the roster of characters you can recruit. Music is top notch for a SNES game too.
Also, try exploring around Formations and proper placement of characters. Don't approach an enemy running so that you don't break your formation and benefit from it like Attack, Speed, etc. up.
That’s great advice man. I realised that later. I was messing that up for ages!
@@2old4gaming Formations and equipment matter so much in this game. It's refreshing that the answer to beating a hard boss isn't just 'go grind more' but instead can be to think hard and pay attention to what they do.
If they spam physical attacks, use a formation that makes them target a character with good defenses and even a counter attack
If they use area effect spells, use a formation that spreads your team out.
Some bosses will cast spells that hit your whole party for elemental damage, but most of these bosses come after a dungeon rife with loot that protects from those elements, even if it provides lower defensive stats otherwise.
I'm glad you are enjoying this game.
I already finished it twice on an SNES emulator and from my experience:
1- I strongly recomend you to only pick Herman (the guy with white hairs) when you want to fight Forneuse (the Water abyss lord), otherwise you might endup stuck with him and it's crappy stats.
2- If you stumble upon healing staffs, only keep them for the FinalBoss because this one is going to wreck you like no other JRPG FinalBoss.
If you are looking for a guide, then check: RPG shrine.
Towns people always give hits on where to go. Just like any old school rpg talk to people on towns.
Really like this first timers impression. BTW, If you walk straight south of the locked door (that asks for a ring, not a key) for a couple of screens, you'll run into an harpy in a circle of light. Stepping on it after killing her opens a shortcut to the dungeon's entrance.
My experience was very similar to yours. Played it several times (never to completion) on the fan translation and i kept running into new things. I was really amazed.
Yup I found the harpy but she kicked my ass. I need to go back now that I’m stronger and try again
I finished the game last year and it was one of the most rewarding RPG playthroughs I ever had.
Totally agree
when you want to do challenge on final boss, try fight it without killing any Archfiend first. totally recommend XD
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@@The_Cooler_Will haha it is okay I remember a few years ago I talked with one of the challenger - with proper set up this is more than doable.
I had to buy this on vita when the news broke.
Sounds incredible - I will definitely be picking this up
Cool. Hope you enjoy it as much as I am. I am not looking for guides anymore and I recommend just playing it and trying to figure out what’s next. You’ll make mistakes probably like I did but that’s part of the fun of experimenting in the game.
@@2old4gaming great, thanks for the advice!
Guy, this game os fvck*** hardcore, one of The best game i have played, and Nice soundtrack
This looks really good has that old school charm.
Grumpy Dad Gaming guess what... it’s a remaster of a 1995 game
Excited to see this pop up in my recommendations. Love the insights about choice and how excited that gets you--it feels like many RPG fans would be frustrated they 'missed out' because a decision they made locked them out of content. The SaGa series really doesn't hold its players' hands and has serious consequences for decisions! I'm interested to see what your thoughts are on the game when you finish it, too.
I wish there was more variety between each character's story, though some characters such as Mikhail, Sarah, and Khalid get quite unique setups. I really do prefer the freeform 'open world' scenario because there's something exciting about choosing which order to do main quests in or even going someplace very dangerous early on in order to get good equipment or even chance some hard encounters for sparking new powerful moves. This sort of game really demands that you interact with the game world to figure out what is available to you, which drives a lot of talking to NPCs and feeling invested in the larger narrative--something that most RPGs don't incentivize nearly as much. I really love it.
Also, for a surprise, try putting your main character in the back/reserve spot of your formation.
Haha, this review may be a good case-in-point for the proverb "different strokes for different folks." You seem very excited by the discovery aspect offered by the game's cryptic and unclear mechanics, but I think I would find that INTENSELY frustrating! Glad you're having an awesome time with the game, though! I do think I will buy it at some point, but I may wait for a sale.
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You can't get rid of Bard/Poet until after you defeat an Abyss Lord (or LP kill him, killing an Abyss Lord will revive any characters you LP killed) and you can get rid of the pink haired dessert themed kid by going to Ryblov.
Thanks for the info
Just picked it up for the vita. Glad to hear you liked it!
I will tell you this, this game is super awesome, i played this game since im a kid like early year 2000. I promise till now i even watch this game in youtube to reminisce how to play this game. I cant count how many times i finished this game with every different main character, but still my favorite main character is julian. I played this in super nintendo in japanese version. I fcking dont understand japanese yet i finished this game. Thats fcking awesome right? After emulators in PC comes, thanks that there is english version of this game in emulator so i played it again and finished it again. You need a month or years to actually finish this game with all unlocked moves, anyway there is also a formation where you could attack with combination with physical and magical attack.
It's one of the best jrpg i have ever played and probably the best snes remaster game.
Totally agree. I was so surprised at how good this game is
Thanks for the impressions, sounds good
Your experience was similar to mine soo many years ago and now.
Seeing as you just kept doing it for this whole video, I assume you don't know that if you enter battle while running it breaks your formation(and removes any formation buffs you might have).
Also, Life Points are easy to recover in this specific SaGa game, as long as you have access to an Inn.
I did not know that! I was wondering why that kept happening! Thank you!
Yes. And if you run behind them, it's a surprise attack mean first round, the enemies do nothing. So you can smack them a round for free. :D
it has the oldschool charm but, it's not fun to play by a guide wich you have to if your not interessted to waste allot of time.
I am a long time SaGa fan, so of course I scooped it up day one on my Vita. I'll chip away at it little by little when I have the time.
Good luck figuring out all the hidden hints and triggers. I am an old player from SNES version and I am interested in the new game +. Hopefully there will be new contents. But most of all, use your favorite characters :)
There's a new dungeon added, at least, and it includes some story content.
NG+ carries over all equipment that isn't plot-important and keeps your mastered skills. Characters also retain their skill levels, so if you have a favorite (BOSTON) they'll become very, very powerful over multiple playthroughs.
Theres a journal in the camp menu (x or triangle depending on system) that gives u a run down and log of what you've done
Not sure if this game is for newcomers to the series but this is as traditional as jrpgs get. Where you explore the game and talk to towns people to hint or unlock new areas without a guide and figuring things out. This is probably one of the hardest games in the series too but I love every bit of it.
Same here. There is so much to discover and do. I love it!
Just for curiosity, which games you played in the series?
This game scares me. I want to play it because I love these graphics and gameplay. But the idea of never knowing where you're supposed to go seems daunting. Like every time you finish a question you need to go back to every single place to maybe, hopefully, trigger something that pushes the story forward? And then after that you need to do it all over again? Exploring for fun is one thing, and can be enjoyable. Running around until you find the next trigger seems stressful. It's been the main reason why I haven't bought it yet.
It can be daunting and I actually found myself making notes so I don’t forget who I spoke to where but it also feels rewarding discovering something new. It seems like new events open up when you hit a certain HP so there are triggers but you just don’t know when or where something new will pop up
A thing to remember is that not only do new quests open up when you reach a certain HP, some quests also shut off once you reach a high level of HP, presumably to punish too much mindless grinding.
Please remake chrono trigger like this!!!!!
Hhmmm, interesting, i didnt even considered this game before. Now i will buy it
Hope you enjoy it as much as me
I'm playing it right now and it feels so fresh to be challenged like this in an old school RPG. question though, am I "supposed" to play through NewGame+ ? I'm still on the prologue and these monsters are so hard that they pretty much require me to be significantly stronger to even come close to beating them.
Grinding helps to an extent. Monsters become stronger as you get stronger but unlocking new skills and buying stronger weapons makes a big difference later in the game. Also you will find new party members later that will be much stronger with super tough abilities. The game is always tough but you can manage it. Sometimes it may be an indication that you’ve walked into a dungeon you’re not ready for if you can’t beat enemies.
Good luck!
If you like this game, The Last Remnant was much in the same vein, although it has some very different and obtuse mechanics as well. Same director, Kawazu.
Nice. Thanks for the recommendation. I have it on my wish list on switch. I’ve got a bit too many games to play right now but I’ll definitely grab it when it goes on sale
I purchased Romancing SaGa 2 on switch near release day (it snuck up on me), and will definitely be doing the same with RS3 -- although its regrettable that there's no physical release. I haven't played through much of RS2 due to being busy with life and whatnot, but I remember having a difficult time of it when I did sit down and play it. This isn't at all a turn-off, but does anyone have a break down of the game mechanics, that doesn't come at the expense of spoilers? I'm willing to accept personal explanations; or ones provided by a preferred outside source -- altho I'd prefer a personal choice, as I want something very particular, in terms of having a mechanics explanation, that still remains vague and allows me to discover the game; I simply want a hand nudging me in the dark. lol, I know its a very particular and obnoxious request, but I'd appreciate it if anyone is willing to accept this challenge!
There's a shortcut out of the Archfiend palace.
Look back use to play in japanese, we missed alot of rare items,weapons and ammors. I still playing the snes rom though RS3. Now playing it with Iphone and it's worth it. I'm on the last stage now with all parties over 850HP. Just cleared the PHANTOM MAZE new quest and you'll fuking love it. TRUST ME THIS!
No spoiler here. :DDD
There's some differents in the game. All waza quite easy to learn, leveling up weapons is just ok, MP is alot harder here to level up and hardcore monster attacking is abit weaker then snes version. And I realize monster sometimes will run away from you! LOL xD
did not know it came to the Vita
Its on switch too
Yup I know. I’m playing on my Vita.
If it's even remotely like saga frontier I'm down.
It is considerably better in that it is a completed game. SaGa Frontier was half-finished in many obvious ways that are painful to think about.
Romancing Saga 3 is very much a predecessor to SaGa Frontier in terms of gameplay and presentation. I still prefer Frontier, but RS3 is a very fun time and I'd highly recommend it if you're a fan of Frontier.
Loved that game. The first was the best!
Saga Frontier was my childhood favorite game!
Saga Frontier was too hardcore for the kids that played their first RPG with FF7. That's the only reason why it received so much negativity.
The retail digital manual is garbage unfortunately. Glad your having a good time with the game. Your videos definitely make me want to jump into it right now.
Yeah I picked it up! But please stop running towards enemies, it breaks your formation and they are an important part of the team. As for LP, it's not Romancing SaGa 2, just sleep at an inn and voila fully healed /o/. I've waited for so long to see it released and I'm having a blast. I'm happy that the general public is too. SaGa never dies!
I can't get over the fact you gave Sarah a 2H Sword
I like to live life on the edge. It’s ok though I balance out the party by giving Undine an axe! :)
I bought this, hoping to play on my PSTV - but it was locked out. LAME
Oh, THESE are my kind of rpgs, I could care less about ff7 remake and its mannequin "realistic" graphics. These games required a bit of imagination now everything is spoon fed and with a juvenile aesthetic I despise. I'll get this just by the "ff6 looks" and if the reviewer is right then I'm for a treat!
Ouch, I guess this game won’t be for me, although I liked FF Legend 3, and REALLY liked Legend 2 and Romancing Saga 2. The one thing I can’t stand in games in the requirement to save scum… It basically ruined Fire Emblem for me starting at about Awakening, when character death became optional, and they began balancing the game around casual mode where characters revive after battle instead of balancing it around playing the game strategically and with the threat of death.
This sounds very intriguing but the time wasting mechanics seem extremely frustrating. The things you called challenging just seem like time wasters. Regardless I appreciate the video and it does seem like an interesting game.
I like to grind in jrpgs..is this a thing here or not?. I've heard some mixed responses so am after an answer from someone who actually knows.
Of course, you gonna grind a lot.
In fact you need to grind in order to unlock further quests.
I'm six hours in and I quit tonight with a frown. I started with Lillian and somehow lost Monika during the ship part. After 4 hours I haven't found her or any reliable way to cure now that she's gone. Having one item per person is not useful and expensive in the long run.
Completely lost on the story and the internet hasn't any guides I could find from this decade. Good grief!
Going to restart and do my best to keep Monika. I think her healing may be too invaluable to do without. I dunno.
Game is difficult and confusing but I'd like to make it to a part where it feels like I've progressed the story somehow.
Totally understand. It is really confusing at times but I don’t think you need to restart as things become clearer over time. Sometimes new quests won’t open until later so even if Monika is gone for now you may find her later.
I am just guessing though because my experience has been totally different and like you said there aren’t guides out there for every scenario
You’ve lost monika on the ship because you’ve refused to run away with her. When she disappears on this event she is gone forever.
Do keep at it!
Eventually, you can find mage tutors in various towns that you can learn magic from, so anyone can learn to heal. Martial Arts also gets a self-healing technique and over the course of the game you will also find several Staff of Vitality wands that can heal your characters.
As for Monika, make different decisions and it may turn out differently. Save before making those decisions in the prologue.
It helps to talk to everyone in towns and, if that fails, to pay attention to your adventure journal--you can access it from the menu screen. The game rewards exploration and interaction. Pay attention and you'll find your way.
@@varsoonhks3211 This guy knows his SaGa.
its on android now, never played this, is it worth the 26 dollar?
I’d say yes. I’m loving it
Yes, meanwhile here in Brazil we need to pay 100R$
Here cost about US$25. :D
@@sylvierose2799
That's cheaper than the US price. 100R$ = 18.65 US$.
@@kekeke8988 dude... Do you know how much we usualy are paid here? 100 bucks in Brazil is a significant chunk of our monthly profit. We simply don't have the luxury to buy games often.
Hello. I just purchased this Game in the pmaystore. Can I play this game without playing thw Romancing saga 1 and 2?
Yup you can. The story is not a continuation of 2. Sorry for the late reply
Is there a new game+ option? I could not get this with out a guide.
Yup there is a new game + option
I remember i got ass kicked many time by Dragon Ruler especially green one
Noxious Fumes
Every time
All your points are funny and sad to me, as I have to replay the game like more than 10 playthrough til today to get all the 'best cases' to do.
ロマサガ3はストーリーがスカスカの未完成品。
リマスターも未完成のままだしバグが増えてるからあんま期待せん方が良いよ😅
I don't know. I Don't like hard games.
So I might not buy this game 💔
That’s ok dude. Not everyone likes the same games. Glad I could help you decide. 👍
@@2old4gaming thank you, I'll just stick with final fantasy
If you can compromise with using a guide to complete it, it's not super hard. You only need to decide from start what your final party will be and follow the quest order according to your current max HP(that's a way to guess your power level since there is no level mechanics in this game)
Part of the reward of SaGa games is figuring things out for yourself and stumbling around in the dark until you get that moment in which you know what to do. You wrest the adventure from the game so it is best to avoid walk throughs as much as you can. As he said, he crafted his own saga through completing and failing quests. A playthrough that is unique to him.
@@WPFreeinternet That's another valid point of view. As a child I did this. In fact my first playthrough was even more cryptic since I didn't even knew english back then lol.
Ungh... this game is a mess. The storytelling pratically doesnt exist and the gameplay is not intuitive at all. I am a old school jrpg gamer but there is much better games to spend my time than spending with this chaotic... mess. The first Saga frontier on ps1 is a much better romancing saga game.
Only it's not a Romancing SaGa game, it's a SaGa Frontier game...
Or a SaGa game if you mean the whole franchise.
Lol go play ff7 again then