That’s why I really have stuck to only Nike sbs. I had to get these because they’re og but I’m so disappointed with them. These should cost no more than $180 tops.
Nike is just laughing at us. We keep complaining about the crappy quality, yet we as consumers keeps rewarding their contempt for us. Talking about failing upward. I've moved away from Jordan/Nike products and now heavy into Reebok retros. They, as well as Adidas, still uses good quality materials, and are not treating us like fools with their release methods.
@@PMSchaft The rise of Asics, just like New Balance previously, feels more like the bridesmaid hovering around the main character that is Nike. We are constantly looking for an alternative to Nike, but at the end of the day, Nike still maintains dominance of mind-space in the average consumers. I have the hardest time convincing my partner to try other brands for her workout gears, but alas it was a thankless task as she is convinced that Nike product is the best. Yes Nike has taken some loss of late, but consumers seems to have Stockholm syndrome when it comes to Nike and JB; we are very ready to forgive and return to them, and all it takes is one hyped collab/Retro model or colourway/PR blitz about an improvement in QC and materials. Asics will be around this and maybe next year, but they will cool down when the next hyped brand comes to the forefront, where they will settle in their niche: on the peripheral of Nike and Jordan brand.
Just get their performance models. Gt Jump 2s are amazing shoes. People care so much about style and ignore uniqueness. IMHO it's better to wear sneakers that will make your feet super comfortable then integrating it into your style.
The leather is the same as they used on powder blue 9s and the blue is same color as Wizard 3s. I was very disappointed when I 1st unboxed. But I’ve come to like them more and more each day.
I'm satisfied with mine just got them today here in Dubai it didn't sell-out that muc after a day of it's released still available and up for grab at anytime you wanted them
I copped a pair and waiting it to arrive. I’ll see how the quality, might return it if the leather is as crap as gr dunks. Btw thanks for the review bro, great content and quality as always!
I might regret getting one a while ago. Almost all reviews are saying that the Leather quality is shit. 😶 Btw, I think your dog tag covered the mic on the last seconds of the video. Appreciate the review as always! ✊🏽
Oh shit yeah, thanks for the heads up man and also for watching till the end really appreciate that. I say if you bought it from Nike, keep it. And as soon as the shoe is eligible for discount, do it immediately 👍
Nice vid! I have returned mine! Fire colorway but in terms of materials used not worth the money! Unfortunately. Same shit leather like they used for the fire red 4s. But happy I saved the money instead 😀
i got both pairs, i will say the leather on the militarys does not even compare. But the MB shoe is easier to style - likely these will ruin easier - today was the first day ive worn my military blues about 3 hours into wear and the leather has folded on the toe box a lil like a AF1 but ive recieved more complmements on these than the Bred 4's thats for sure.
Kumusta? Love your videos bro. So down to earth and honest raw opinions. Love every shoe you review. Got my W today too on the military blues here in Toronto. Quite difficult but luckily i won the raffle. Saan ka sa Europe? More power to your channel! Stay blessed!
Hi Kabs, thanks for the kind words. Congrats BTW they are nice aesthetic wise but cheap materials. If this is your first J, keep it coz this is an OG colorway. Stay safe and happy weekend!!
@@PMSchaft Hi pre, yes first time ko magcollect, di ako binibili ng parents ko ng Js puro local na sneakers lng sa pinas. Now that im old, pretty much can afford anything in moderation syempre. Compulsive buyer ako so i just sell what i really dont feel like keeping after I received them.
TBH, it was a hard decision, but I decided to skip this release (even if this is an OG color-way with “Nike Air” on the back). I’m not a fan of the AJ4, which is nice, but not my favorite. I got the Bred reimagined (my only AJ4) because the quality and the comfort are fantastic (worth the price) - in my opinion. 120€ for the Dunk SB Burgundy Crush are better spent, if compared to 210€ only for memories without quality. Thanks for your reviews and the honesty of your comments 👏🏻💪🏻
Appreciate you man for commenting and watching. That's why I love SBs too, quality but not overly priced. But hey maybe this will be on Sale on some other retailers soon 😅
Hoping they will be on sale, but I’m not convinced this will happen. Let’s see… 🤞🏻 Probably the main reason of this “quality” vs price is the economic situation of Nike. They are not running well this year and they probably need more margin. Releasing a highly requested model in large scale, ensures the shoes will be sell out and “guaranteed” revenues for Nike 🤷🏻♂️ Best ✌🏼
I’m happy I saved my self some $ with these and didn’t join the raffle in AU. It’s an okay colorway for me tho it’s an OG plus the nike air heel tab. But I’d rather rock my military black 4’s over these.
@@PMSchaft You're right. Nike could and should sacrifice a small amount of profit to deliver a better product. Hopefully, all of these returns have some sort of impact on their future decisions.
I’ll say this. All the dunk lows I have the toe box ages beautifully. It’s cheap material but they don’t even look bad when you crease them. Now a Jordan 1 low with bad materials is a different story. Them things are horrible. Good review. I treated myself to these. I got the last drop. And the sbs on my closet. As a kid I loved these and never got a chance to get them. Now if I see them in hand and don’t like the quality I’ll return them
@@PMSchaft I understand. All I’m saying is that if they age like a dunk then the shoe won’t look terrible after a few wears. I’m all for premium sneakers. That’s why I skipped the gratitudes. Ppl tell me that they’re meant to crease. Well yes but not look terrible after 5 casual wears
@@markgonzalez8828 sadly stiff leathers don't crease like the soft and tumbled one and that's the reason why there's PRM version of dunks which is a bit expensive than the normal. Same reason why Jordan 1 OGs are preferred by many against the mids.
I honestly went from dying to get these to passing on them. Especially after seeing the blue SBs that are coming. This colorway, when put next to other OG colors, just looks lame to me. My opinion also the quality control seems to be really poor. For those who want them I hope you get them and congratulations in advance. Thanks for another great review.
Nike wanna bloat up profit so much, to pay for their athletes but they completely forget that it's the customer are their source of funds and ironically getting ignored by just dumping sh*t. No wonder Asics and NB are rising up.
The color and shape is the closest we can get from 1989 og miliraty blue. Fyi people compare this from the 2012 retro is in my opinion is far from the og. Nice pick up im still waiting for my pair from SNS.
I was very disappointed with these Military Blue's when I received them from shock drop, to tell u the truth, I wear my Bred's more than these Industrial Blue's if that what Nike wants to call them. Cool Review 😎
@@PMSchaft I LOVE all your content by the way! I really hope I can win the dunk sb J pack next, after having to pay resale for the big money savings…. Dunk sb’s are really the cream of the crop as far as shoe/material quality!!!
Ill have to disagree. The materials on my pair & every other pair I've come across are top-notch. Tumble leather from nike can be removed with acetone, so it's a faux ascetic feature & is not an indicator of better leather materials. The leather & nubuck on the Military Blues are as good as the SB's, reimagined's & pretty much every other J4. If you dont like them just be honest that it is because of the colors or sure the dreamcell insole, but to cap about the material is comical to true sneaker heads that see through the bias. The truth is that if anyone was as displeased with this pair as they claimed & still kept them, then they played themself out of $235... just my worthless 2 cents dough
they dont know, the shoe has been out 10 secs and everybody jus following the trend... bitchin and whining. I got mine with shock drop. im 100% happy, I wasn't expecting tumbled leather or sb leather
Brother i think di sulit sa 200+ euro llo na dito sa jordan store milan di maganda qc ng retail ilang beses na kc nakabili kya esep esep muna sa j4 mb thanks again bro
Got em today from jd sports. Unpopular opinion here: the leather is very good imo. Tell me, how do you know leather quality just by casually looking and touching them without inspecting the cut of the leather. What is good quality leather? Easiest way is to compare it with good leather, in this case horween leather. I have new balance 997 horween leather and converse pro leather horween. After comparing the leather cuts side by side between the jordan 4 and horween leather, they're just the same, full grain leather. The difference is that the horween is slightly thicker and no polyurethane coating. Bred 4 reimagined is not better just because it's tumbled leather, and mblue 4 is not worse just because it's smooth leather. Sure it has polyurethane coating, but definitely not cheap bonded leather. And for sure it's not dunk leather. But let's agree to disagree. I'm satisfied with my purchase and don't care what people say.
Brother after ng review mo deretso ako sa store. past ako brother sa j4 mb save ko nlang muna. Llo na bro ung gs size 😢 og colorway panalo dun. Respect sa mga tropa mahilig sa shoes llo na sa j4 mb opinyon ko lang. PEACE
@@kingdot9287 i dont know where you live but in here in france many creator’s content mentioned the poor quality of the breds too.. we are disappointed because Nike didn’t listen to us again
@@kaderouattara9553my complain about the Breds is that it's labeled reimagined but what Nike did is just changed the leather from nubuck to tumbled and called it reimagined. It's a lazy job for a reimagined so to say.
Absolute GARBAGE compared to my Reimagined Bred 4’s, and SB 4’s. Don’t care if it’s an, “OG” sneaker or not. Materials 👎🏻 “dreamcell” trash insole 👎🏻 quality control 👎🏻 comfort 👎🏻. Bred 4’s are still my sneaker of the year. PASS!!!
I honestly don't undestand why people complain of leather quality, Nike is not a luxury brand if you want high quality leather go buy italian shoes. do you think the military black has much better leather? Nah, just a different treatment to it. This polyuretane leather was used beacause the OG pair had that type of leather too. people talk without even knowing the history behind it, of course you don't get thumbled leather like on the breds..
@@PMSchaft I agree that nike on this pair used a worse leather than other jordan 4's, but they did it because the stock is very high for these and they can't put the same leather of military blacks. They did the right move imo. I prefer a high production so everyone cana have their personal pair and if it has slightly worse leather is not a big problem for me. do you prefer a inflated resell price like on the military black with no chance to get em for retail? choice is yours, I prefer the first option. good for you if you want to pay 400 dollars for a pair of jordans
@@matteogamba3236 I'm proud to say that i have never paid resale on all my sneakers. If i win on a pair i want, i thank the sneaker Gods if i lose i move on. I don't think production was an issue because the black cement 4s was also high Numbers but atleast it's tumbled that don't crease so much. Anyway I'm waiting for a discount which will happen Likely as people will be returning more due to disappoinment.
@@PMSchaft unfortunately I started collecting sneakers recently and I couldn't get the military blacks or fire reds ecc... But anyway I heard a lot of people that couldn't get the Jordan 4s at retail at the time I don't know if the rumor is true
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Shame that they downgraded so much the materials of the Mblue to Nike Dunk GR level 😔
That’s why I really have stuck to only Nike sbs. I had to get these because they’re og but I’m so disappointed with them. These should cost no more than $180 tops.
Maybe thats why its called industrial blue instead of military blue since it is equipped with basic industrial materials.
@@nickcds3419 we'll get discount soon. The hoarders will Return Lots of them hopefully 😆
@@unkillabledemonking 😆😆😆 could be. But I don't think they can pass industrial grade neither 😅
Got them with exclusive access. They came in a few mins ago. My pair has good quality leather, and they are my first 4s they are very heavy!
For your first pair I'd say it's a keeper. And glad you like them, that's important 👍
Nike is just laughing at us. We keep complaining about the crappy quality, yet we as consumers keeps rewarding their contempt for us. Talking about failing upward.
I've moved away from Jordan/Nike products and now heavy into Reebok retros. They, as well as Adidas, still uses good quality materials, and are not treating us like fools with their release methods.
This! I think the effect is already it's not sudden but slowly, Nike is feeling it already. The rise of Asics is a sign that consumers are waking up.
@@PMSchaft The rise of Asics, just like New Balance previously, feels more like the bridesmaid hovering around the main character that is Nike. We are constantly looking for an alternative to Nike, but at the end of the day, Nike still maintains dominance of mind-space in the average consumers. I have the hardest time convincing my partner to try other brands for her workout gears, but alas it was a thankless task as she is convinced that Nike product is the best.
Yes Nike has taken some loss of late, but consumers seems to have Stockholm syndrome when it comes to Nike and JB; we are very ready to forgive and return to them, and all it takes is one hyped collab/Retro model or colourway/PR blitz about an improvement in QC and materials.
Asics will be around this and maybe next year, but they will cool down when the next hyped brand comes to the forefront, where they will settle in their niche: on the peripheral of Nike and Jordan brand.
Just get their performance models. Gt Jump 2s are amazing shoes.
People care so much about style and ignore uniqueness. IMHO it's better to wear sneakers that will make your feet super comfortable then integrating it into your style.
Thanks man for your honest opinion. Glad I did not go for the EA yesterday and did not pull the trigger today. Will focus on getting other heat.
No worries, happy to help :) SB Chicago might be a good alternative.
@@PMSchaft That is exactly what I am going all out for next week!
Got them with the shock drop! Really nice retro colorway but indeed the quality is not best! Still nice to have in the collection! 👟🔥
Nike bloating up profit to prioritize athletes 🤷🏽
The leather is the same as they used on powder blue 9s and the blue is same color as Wizard 3s. I was very disappointed when I 1st unboxed. But I’ve come to like them more and more each day.
I think they will age nicely colorwise, but these are lower tier Nikes leather quality man, the 220$ is too much.
I'm satisfied with mine just got them today here in Dubai it didn't sell-out that muc after a day of it's released still available and up for grab at anytime you wanted them
There's a reason why it's easy to get. Lot of folks changed their mind after the quality dropped.
I copped a pair and waiting it to arrive. I’ll see how the quality, might return it if the leather is as crap as gr dunks.
Btw thanks for the review bro, great content and quality as always!
No problem brother!! Toebox area is decent but not impressive. Lace area specially the eyestays, netting are very plasticky.
Totally agree I got to examine a pair at DSG the other day & was totally shocked the leather was so much worse than the bred 4s
Yep, disappointing. I expect lots of pairs will be returned. And hoping they will discount this soon.
@@PMSchaft me too! How you liking the Chicago SBs? I’m getting a pair gotta have them! I can’t believe the price has dropped as much as it has
@@IconicSwooshes I'm doing a detailed review this weekend on the SB Chicago. Keep you posted brother.
@@PMSchaft Hell yeah sweet!
They sold out in 9 minutes for me, I was too slow but do they usually restock these kind of shoes? I'm new to this so I'm not quite sure
I might regret getting one a while ago. Almost all reviews are saying that the Leather quality is shit. 😶
Btw, I think your dog tag covered the mic on the last seconds of the video. Appreciate the review as always! ✊🏽
Oh shit yeah, thanks for the heads up man and also for watching till the end really appreciate that. I say if you bought it from Nike, keep it. And as soon as the shoe is eligible for discount, do it immediately 👍
I got one today like 5hours ago and already regreting. Got enough crease in 1 time wear.
Nice vid! I have returned mine! Fire colorway but in terms of materials used not worth the money! Unfortunately. Same shit leather like they used for the fire red 4s. But happy I saved the money instead 😀
Good thing you mentioned the fire red, they really have the same Leather quality. I might keep mine but waiting for discount only 😆
I think people are hating on the retro 4 military blues because they are considered the shoe of the year and rivals the breds.
the mblue has the thinnest leather in all j4s that i have. Nike could have made it better like the SB pine green Leather.
i got both pairs, i will say the leather on the militarys does not even compare. But the MB shoe is easier to style - likely these will ruin easier - today was the first day ive worn my military blues about 3 hours into wear and the leather has folded on the toe box a lil like a AF1 but ive recieved more complmements on these than the Bred 4's thats for sure.
This is exactly what I'm afraid of. The leather will crack like the panda dunks. But NGL they look awesome on feet.
Kumusta? Love your videos bro. So down to earth and honest raw opinions. Love every shoe you review. Got my W today too on the military blues here in Toronto. Quite difficult but luckily i won the raffle. Saan ka sa Europe? More power to your channel! Stay blessed!
Hi Kabs, thanks for the kind words. Congrats BTW they are nice aesthetic wise but cheap materials. If this is your first J, keep it coz this is an OG colorway. Stay safe and happy weekend!!
@@PMSchaft Hi pre, yes first time ko magcollect, di ako binibili ng parents ko ng Js puro local na sneakers lng sa pinas. Now that im old, pretty much can afford anything in moderation syempre. Compulsive buyer ako so i just sell what i really dont feel like keeping after I received them.
@@amazingworldofraffyandfran7556 welcome to the club hehe. Better than collecting red horse beer bottles 😆😆😆
TBH, it was a hard decision, but I decided to skip this release (even if this is an OG color-way with “Nike Air” on the back). I’m not a fan of the AJ4, which is nice, but not my favorite. I got the Bred reimagined (my only AJ4) because the quality and the comfort are fantastic (worth the price) - in my opinion.
120€ for the Dunk SB Burgundy Crush are better spent, if compared to 210€ only for memories without quality.
Thanks for your reviews and the honesty of your comments 👏🏻💪🏻
Appreciate you man for commenting and watching. That's why I love SBs too, quality but not overly priced. But hey maybe this will be on Sale on some other retailers soon 😅
Hoping they will be on sale, but I’m not convinced this will happen. Let’s see… 🤞🏻
Probably the main reason of this “quality” vs price is the economic situation of Nike. They are not running well this year and they probably need more margin. Releasing a highly requested model in large scale, ensures the shoes will be sell out and “guaranteed” revenues for Nike 🤷🏻♂️
Best ✌🏼
@@davidepavese7480 very valid point brother!
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Appreciate you!
I’m happy I saved my self some $ with these and didn’t join the raffle in AU. It’s an okay colorway for me tho it’s an OG plus the nike air heel tab. But I’d rather rock my military black 4’s over these.
I cancelled all my other raffles too after getting the early pair 😆
My pair is fine. It’s not a premium shoe. It’s not a performance shoe. As long as I can wear it comfortably I’m good with that.
Yeah, but the point is Nike can make it better right? I mean look at those plastics on the eyestays and netting area.
@@PMSchaft You're right. Nike could and should sacrifice a small amount of profit to deliver a better product. Hopefully, all of these returns have some sort of impact on their future decisions.
@@kryptonj8 hopefully brother 👍
I’ll say this. All the dunk lows I have the toe box ages beautifully. It’s cheap material but they don’t even look bad when you crease them. Now a Jordan 1 low with bad materials is a different story. Them things are horrible. Good review. I treated myself to these. I got the last drop. And the sbs on my closet. As a kid I loved these and never got a chance to get them. Now if I see them in hand and don’t like the quality I’ll return them
Congrats!! But dunks are below 99$ even lower on sale. 220€ after shipping, is ridiculous for a dunk leather Level.
@@PMSchaft I understand. All I’m saying is that if they age like a dunk then the shoe won’t look terrible after a few wears. I’m all for premium sneakers. That’s why I skipped the gratitudes. Ppl tell me that they’re meant to crease. Well yes but not look terrible after 5 casual wears
@@markgonzalez8828 sadly stiff leathers don't crease like the soft and tumbled one and that's the reason why there's PRM version of dunks which is a bit expensive than the normal. Same reason why Jordan 1 OGs are preferred by many against the mids.
I honestly went from dying to get these to passing on them. Especially after seeing the blue SBs that are coming. This colorway, when put next to other OG colors, just looks lame to me. My opinion also the quality control seems to be really poor. For those who want them I hope you get them and congratulations in advance. Thanks for another great review.
Nike wanna bloat up profit so much, to pay for their athletes but they completely forget that it's the customer are their source of funds and ironically getting ignored by just dumping sh*t. No wonder Asics and NB are rising up.
The color and shape is the closest we can get from 1989 og miliraty blue. Fyi people compare this from the 2012 retro is in my opinion is far from the og. Nice pick up im still waiting for my pair from SNS.
Good bro, I cancelled my SNS as I have the Nike pair already. I am keeping mine just for the sake of collection.
I don't care which one is better I got both 😜😎
Got them today with a lot of luck
Congrats! Hope you like them 👍
Eventhough I like the colorway, I would probably skip this.
Thank you for the unbiased review. Respect Kapatid. All the best Pinoy Mannschaft!
Aw!! Thanks Kapatid. Save that kwarta for better stuff 💪
In my opinion, the best color for the Jordan 4 is bred, it's more suitable and fierce, ill skip this colorway
Not bad choice brother 👍
I was very disappointed with these Military Blue's when I received them from shock drop, to tell u the truth, I wear my Bred's more than these Industrial Blue's if that what Nike wants to call them. Cool Review 😎
Thanks man! think because of the Hype and then turned out it's meh. Can't blame you for that honestly.
Leather on Bred 4s were pretty good. Disappointing to see those. I'm probably gonna save myself $200.
Yes especially if you have a sneaker with same color palette. I'm keeping mine but waiting for discount TBH.
glad I didnt hit on these tonight in Australia, Mill blacks looks way way better value
Right! Mblack is the GR King🔥
@@PMSchaft I LOVE all your content by the way! I really hope I can win the dunk sb J pack next, after having to pay resale for the big money savings…. Dunk sb’s are really the cream of the crop as far as shoe/material quality!!!
@@zoiken4 yep the last line up that's value for money.
Ill have to disagree. The materials on my pair & every other pair I've come across are top-notch. Tumble leather from nike can be removed with acetone, so it's a faux ascetic feature & is not an indicator of better leather materials. The leather & nubuck on the Military Blues are as good as the SB's, reimagined's & pretty much every other J4. If you dont like them just be honest that it is because of the colors or sure the dreamcell insole, but to cap about the material is comical to true sneaker heads that see through the bias. The truth is that if anyone was as displeased with this pair as they claimed & still kept them, then they played themself out of $235... just my worthless 2 cents dough
Aw!! Don't disrespect SBs like that man, these are not even close.
everyone keeps saying something about the materials being cheap but nobody is saying why 🤣 whats so different? 3:33
they dont know, the shoe has been out 10 secs and everybody jus following the trend... bitchin and whining. I got mine with shock drop. im 100% happy, I wasn't expecting tumbled leather or sb leather
I mentioned it, it's either you trolling or you didn't listen.
To be honest I didn’t even bother to participate to the raffle cause of the rumors. And I’m glad I didn’t after seeing you video 😊
I cancelled all my other raffles too when I got the shock drop pair. So disappointed coz I Look forward to this release so much.
Brother i think di sulit sa 200+ euro llo na dito sa jordan store milan di maganda qc ng retail ilang beses na kc nakabili kya esep esep muna sa j4 mb thanks again bro
Nope 180€ max that's it. Wait Muna nang discount 😆
Got em today from jd sports. Unpopular opinion here: the leather is very good imo.
Tell me, how do you know leather quality just by casually looking and touching them without inspecting the cut of the leather. What is good quality leather? Easiest way is to compare it with good leather, in this case horween leather. I have new balance 997 horween leather and converse pro leather horween. After comparing the leather cuts side by side between the jordan 4 and horween leather, they're just the same, full grain leather. The difference is that the horween is slightly thicker and no polyurethane coating.
Bred 4 reimagined is not better just because it's tumbled leather, and mblue 4 is not worse just because it's smooth leather. Sure it has polyurethane coating, but definitely not cheap bonded leather. And for sure it's not dunk leather.
But let's agree to disagree. I'm satisfied with my purchase and don't care what people say.
So Nike is just scamming us with the PRM shit dunks coz they're tumbled and soft and don't crease so much vs the non PRM.
This guy knows something. Most people don’t know quality leather because they complain about Nike shoes leather quality😂
Je préfère mes IV military avec le Jumpman ,bien que j’aurai aimé avoir le nike air
I care more on the quality instead. Really does Matter to me if it's jump or Nike air.
Brother after ng review mo deretso ako sa store. past ako brother sa j4 mb save ko nlang muna. Llo na bro ung gs size 😢 og colorway panalo dun.
Respect sa mga tropa mahilig sa shoes llo na sa j4 mb opinyon ko lang. PEACE
wait ka muna discount baka meron. marami mag return nito pramis. goodluck brader!!
Big MEH !! I’m sitting on these. They probably never go on feet. How tf anybody call these SOTY over the Breds is wild …
Indeed!! Sadly it didn't live up to the hype.
I got an L on snkrs today it was impossible ti get them theres no way there are 1.700.000 pairs thats cap
Sorry man, retailers release it without raffle. Don't depend only on SNKRS especially if it's a must have for you.
I've never seen a sneaker with such bad quality... Nike's lack of respect for its consumers is evident.
They keep feeding athletes and promoters not thinking on the regular consumers.
@@PMSchaft you right and that is really sad for us
this must be your first sneaker..
whats crazy everybody was saying the act are shit abt the breds when they released
@@kingdot9287 i dont know where you live but in here in france many creator’s content mentioned the poor quality of the breds too.. we are disappointed because Nike didn’t listen to us again
@@kaderouattara9553my complain about the Breds is that it's labeled reimagined but what Nike did is just changed the leather from nubuck to tumbled and called it reimagined. It's a lazy job for a reimagined so to say.
the way yall whine and complain disgusts me...the shoe is not that bad, if you dont like it send it back....
Nike's quality is so sh#t man. I spend my money on more serious brands
I love my new Saucony. Truly value for money sneakers.
Shit materials getting crease after 1 wear. Not even worth comparing with bred. Breds much better than this shit.
That's what I expect, crease and then cracking.
Absolute GARBAGE compared to my Reimagined Bred 4’s, and SB 4’s. Don’t care if it’s an, “OG” sneaker or not. Materials 👎🏻 “dreamcell” trash insole 👎🏻 quality control 👎🏻 comfort 👎🏻. Bred 4’s are still my sneaker of the year. PASS!!!
Right!! Let's wait for the discount. Pretty sure returns are flooding 😆
I honestly don't undestand why people complain of leather quality, Nike is not a luxury brand if you want high quality leather go buy italian shoes. do you think the military black has much better leather? Nah, just a different treatment to it. This polyuretane leather was used beacause the OG pair had that type of leather too. people talk without even knowing the history behind it, of course you don't get thumbled leather like on the breds..
F**k your history man, i don't want Nike court vision level leather on a 220€ pair.
@@PMSchaft I agree that nike on this pair used a worse leather than other jordan 4's, but they did it because the stock is very high for these and they can't put the same leather of military blacks. They did the right move imo. I prefer a high production so everyone cana have their personal pair and if it has slightly worse leather is not a big problem for me. do you prefer a inflated resell price like on the military black with no chance to get em for retail? choice is yours, I prefer the first option. good for you if you want to pay 400 dollars for a pair of jordans
@@matteogamba3236 I'm proud to say that i have never paid resale on all my sneakers. If i win on a pair i want, i thank the sneaker Gods if i lose i move on. I don't think production was an issue because the black cement 4s was also high Numbers but atleast it's tumbled that don't crease so much. Anyway I'm waiting for a discount which will happen Likely as people will be returning more due to disappoinment.
@@PMSchaft unfortunately I started collecting sneakers recently and I couldn't get the military blacks or fire reds ecc... But anyway I heard a lot of people that couldn't get the Jordan 4s at retail at the time I don't know if the rumor is true
This why Nike will always make shit 💩 like that.. poor mentality
I have fake Jordans that are better quality than these. Sheesh
They say that if your pair has better materials and QC they're probably Reps 😆😆😆