Hope you enjoy this one fam, think it's maybe the best video I've made so let me know your thoughts! If you want Chally coaching then feel free to add me on Discord: coacheagz OR you can book directly through my website: eagz.gg Arfreezy's Links: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/arfreezy YT: th-cam.com/users/Arfreezy
In that last clip, the fact that graves pinged exactly where lee was is just insane. Actually gave me chills. These players really are in tune with the game on another level.
Recently switched to playing jungle after getting frustrated with top lane. I had to learn from the very basics and your videos helped me a ton! Been on an 8 game winning streak and i feel like i improve every game when i implement something from your videos
A guy that i met on soloq euw master, that actually player really well earlygame against me, recommended me this channel, and i think its the best discover i did in the whole life i ve been playing league of legends, i just started in league of legends spanish amateur, CT , and this is gonna be completely helpfuly for me, thanks you so much for publishing this type of videos for people that cant actually afford private coaches.
That’s cool that you spent all this time making this detailed video just for riot to completely gut jungle and completely change it so we all have to relearn the fucking game next patch.
u helped me a ton in climbing, i got diamond a long time ago but was stuck plat/emerald for years, after briar release i really started focusing up on jungle, i skyrocketed from e4 to d4 in just over a week with +17/-32 pretty much maintaining a 60-70% winrate the entire time thanks to how you lay out information. i mostly just prioritized efficient clears and base timings, trying to work in punishing mistakes now. hopefully ill purchase a coaching session in the near future. ty for the great videos dude.
This channel is quite honestly amazing to watch. Not only is it informative but it changes your perspective on the game to one that is far more healthy which is, are YOU making all the right moves. What I see in my games sometimes is Junglers coin flipping plays and they end up working out, it wins them the game sometimes or at least puts them ahead but doing that repeatedly is where the coin flip element will go against them and you see W L W L W L W L in their match history. I've climbed after watching your videos but it is very difficult actually to focus sometimes when live in game and think of those moves in a timely manner for them to make a difference. As I keep watching your coaching I am picking up patterns. So many times I've just won the game after stealing second spawn Krugs then raptors, then go straight to his wolves and Gromp in a bid to contest those as well. My favourite move though, which I learned from you is.....Red - Krugs - Raptors, hit enemy on their second buff, usually red, kill them and steal it. Recall go opposite side to crab and hit them again with the extra gold. I win games purely off of these two moves alone.
Only works if you have prio or you’ll get counter ganked, if your invade fails that means you waste time travelling to his side of the map, that essentially is a coin flip too if you’re doing this every game
"Making a play is doing anything when you show on the minimap" Edit: Just finished the video, wow, unreal how people play the game with like this. Maximum mental stimulation every match..
Can you do a video on mid/late game jungling? I get really lost around that area of the game and tend to just farm jungle instead of thinking about the enemy
for sure but jungling doesn't change man, you still look at laners to kill (minion waves don't stop spawning) and you don't stop thinking about the enemy's side of the map/jungle
I love how you try to put as much information's as you possibly can in one video and speak as was as Eminem. All regards I learned a tone from this one!
With the point you mentioned, after Arfreezy kills bot a second, time since it's 5 minutes the Viego's Raptors and later on Krugs would be spawning. Would you argue that Graves should still recall to deny his camps being taken so that Viego doesn't benefit from this play? Because if Graves here takes the enemy raptors and krugs and dragon after, that can be seen as a win right? Or, is it just better to go to his own camps to deny that possibility at all. Also, I was the one that actually posted the Oner video in the discord! So thank you so much for making a video on this topic.
excellent question man and i was going to bring this up but with graves on such big gold and having enough time to cover Viego's potential counterplay he should definitely cover the worst thing that can happen to him - remember, if they both do each other's camps they are trading...and yes, Graves recalling and doing Krugs/Raps is the same as Viego backing and doing his, but Graves can do whatever he wants after that 👍
8:40 what if Viego mindgames and actually paths into your botside jungle? He would have bot prio cuz of the bounce too. Learned a ton, that ping from enemy graves on Oner's krugs at the end was epic validation
wouldn't care if he took time taking my Level 1 camps and when I see them gone, I can just run into his bot side and fight him on his level 4 raps/krugs and kill bot if possible, or just Drake after (you will probably catch Viego as well at the last camp tbh) - and glad you learned a lot man 🙌
I'm gold but I still don't think to count enemy cs and what camps he might have done or not done to invade. But I know early game everyone revives too fast so doing drake that early can be a throw because they all will revive and be there before I finish drake. Specially with drakes having that high hp now.
Just gotta make a habit out of it. At some point you'll just press tab and you'll recognize patterns easily. Started bot and showed with 12 cs and two buffs? Probably raptors are up. Just an example.
Hey Coach great video as always. I just wanted to ask at 8:50 about that "forcing minon wave". I thouth that better play is to take your respawn top camps and invades enemy raptors. After all mid and bot are weak, meanwhile enemy poppy can easly punish you heavly for invading. I wonder what would you think about that idea.
I'm silver 4 lmao what am I doing here XD It's inspiring to see how advanced this game is played at a high level, I'm definitely looking to apply 1 little thing at a time and working to get there one day!
Eagz, in a game where they have the stronger jungler, lets say at level 5 graves vs ekko. If you are topside and they have just ganked botlane and you're unsure whether they will base or invade, is it better to take the risk and invade? Assuming no objectives are up, no ganks are available and both jungles potentially invaded are fully up. What would be the best decision in this case?
This was a great video, and I appreciate the detailed decision making. What would be the play if after graces does dragon and viego counters the jungle camps, how should graves look to respond? Is the map set to 0, so graves should be looking for ways to get ahead? Could you do a video about placing wards for jungle tracking? I feel like I place wards, but I end up not getting any value out of them because often the enemy jg doesn't go where I think they should based on camps respawning. Bronze elo btw.
hey man good question, so after Graves runs to his top camps and sees that they're gone (he probably shouldn't even check Krugs, just straight to Raps - and I said something similar to this in my Gryffinn video/review) he can think about Viego's bot camps 👍 you shouldnt need wards for tracking junglers bro, you cant have 4 wards on 4 camps the whole game...if they don't go where they should go then they are leaving counterplay
recall or do crab (because of prio on mid, otherwise recall instantly is better for sure) and recall agree, he is already below half hp, cant do much and over 1k gold already, plus he cannot even put a ward to cover his bot side because its on cd
id be more than happy taking Viego's level 4 camps as well and potentially giving him my Level 1 camps - and in this game that would never happen because Graves's bot side of the map is so ahead
9:45 invading here, what if you mess up and he gets the camps on time/wins the smite battle or if your laners dont have prio? would you just go just go back and farm your camps? Or would you try bother him again and go to meet him at his bottom side camps again?
don't mess up, wrap between his wolves/blue and contest him on Gromp - like the Kaos clip I show, and yes afterwards you can think of running to other side of his jungle 👍
Just curious what you think, if the graves read that the lee sin will cover red top side then go for a straight counter jungle to red bottom side, should Lee gank top and take graves top side or cover red bot lane?
it's not bad but not great because Viego might cover right and Graves is making plays when he can make any play he wants after backing again with 1100 gold 👍
@CoachEagz Hey coach! I sincerely cannot wrap my head around how to apply these tactics to the other side of the map, the play makes sense on red side but on blue side how would it work out? do you just make a different play for that side of the map?
not really man because it's the same map just flipped haha maybe instead of Krugs/Raps you can replace them with Gromp/Wolves and vice versa but yeh, not sure how it would change tbh
Im a low elo jungler so excuse me but if the graves knew oner would go to his krugs why didnt he invade his blue side? is it because he knew the entrance to oner's blue was warded? or lets say if he knew it wasnt warded why didnt he invade blue?
Hello Eagz, I am a top main but want to change to jungle because top has almost no impact in the game, what would be a great champ to start to learn jg and can apply these tactics easily?
None of these videos actually helped me climb. I feel like i did everything right and i still lose lategame like the early game did nothing. All these videos did for me is coming back to league to suffer. Now i quit again after a 6 losersqueue loss streak where the enemy gold players play like challenger apparently
the idea and the concept of the video is fine but man 10 minutes of talking about almost the same stuff is just boring. you could ve made a list or smth and tell these "scenarios or plays" and move on. you keep going back and forth about the same topic is just threw me off for this video. dont get me wrong i find your videos very useful and it makes me think jungling very differently but man this one was like "lets play it and see" for me
you seem to be the only one out of 10,000 to think that bro, and im not just ‘talking’…im explaining in full detail why this is chally jungling - it takes a minute
Hope you enjoy this one fam, think it's maybe the best video I've made so let me know your thoughts! If you want Chally coaching then feel free to add me on Discord: coacheagz OR you can book directly through my website: eagz.gg
Arfreezy's Links:
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/arfreezy
YT: th-cam.com/users/Arfreezy
In that last clip, the fact that graves pinged exactly where lee was is just insane. Actually gave me chills. These players really are in tune with the game on another level.
really tempted to pin this bro haha and indeed they are (was also gunna say 'we' xd)
Jungle tracking isn't that hard if you have early vision on them and use the map effectively
Recently switched to playing jungle after getting frustrated with top lane. I had to learn from the very basics and your videos helped me a ton! Been on an 8 game winning streak and i feel like i improve every game when i implement something from your videos
A guy that i met on soloq euw master, that actually player really well earlygame against me, recommended me this channel, and i think its the best discover i did in the whole life i ve been playing league of legends, i just started in league of legends spanish amateur, CT , and this is gonna be completely helpfuly for me, thanks you so much for publishing this type of videos for people that cant actually afford private coaches.
thanks for the nice comment bro glad you like the videos - was it Enric? 😅
That’s cool that you spent all this time making this detailed video just for riot to completely gut jungle and completely change it so we all have to relearn the fucking game next patch.
hahahahha true
I think you just opened my mind to jungling! After watching this specific video, I’m crushing it with tempo.
u helped me a ton in climbing, i got diamond a long time ago but was stuck plat/emerald for years, after briar release i really started focusing up on jungle, i skyrocketed from e4 to d4 in just over a week with +17/-32 pretty much maintaining a 60-70% winrate the entire time thanks to how you lay out information. i mostly just prioritized efficient clears and base timings, trying to work in punishing mistakes now. hopefully ill purchase a coaching session in the near future. ty for the great videos dude.
pleasure man, stoked they help 🥳
This channel is quite honestly amazing to watch. Not only is it informative but it changes your perspective on the game to one that is far more healthy which is, are YOU making all the right moves.
What I see in my games sometimes is Junglers coin flipping plays and they end up working out, it wins them the game sometimes or at least puts them ahead but doing that repeatedly is where the coin flip element will go against them and you see W L W L W L W L in their match history.
I've climbed after watching your videos but it is very difficult actually to focus sometimes when live in game and think of those moves in a timely manner for them to make a difference.
As I keep watching your coaching I am picking up patterns. So many times I've just won the game after stealing second spawn Krugs then raptors, then go straight to his wolves and Gromp in a bid to contest those as well.
My favourite move though, which I learned from you is.....Red - Krugs - Raptors, hit enemy on their second buff, usually red, kill them and steal it. Recall go opposite side to crab and hit them again with the extra gold. I win games purely off of these two moves alone.
means a lot bro thank you for the support ❤
If you start top then you invade his blue?
Only works if you have prio or you’ll get counter ganked, if your invade fails that means you waste time travelling to his side of the map, that essentially is a coin flip too if you’re doing this every game
@@datdinh2947depends who is in mid or top. Level 4 Yorick with TP...who cares. Veigar TP mid, who cares...
exactly... it depends on the team and who actually uses TP... that is what coinflipping is, who cares...@@timmy_team_6285
"Making a play is doing anything when you show on the minimap"
Edit: Just finished the video, wow, unreal how people play the game with like this. Maximum mental stimulation every match..
I climbed almost 3 Division after watching like 3 vids of yours ❤ The jungle guide are amazing
Can you do a video on mid/late game jungling? I get really lost around that area of the game and tend to just farm jungle instead of thinking about the enemy
for sure but jungling doesn't change man, you still look at laners to kill (minion waves don't stop spawning) and you don't stop thinking about the enemy's side of the map/jungle
I love how you try to put as much information's as you possibly can in one video and speak as was as Eminem. All regards I learned a tone from this one!
til i collapse
I love arfreezy he's such a chill guy
@15:00
I realised I was nodding like you were talking to me personally 😅
With the point you mentioned, after Arfreezy kills bot a second, time since it's 5 minutes the Viego's Raptors and later on Krugs would be spawning. Would you argue that Graves should still recall to deny his camps being taken so that Viego doesn't benefit from this play? Because if Graves here takes the enemy raptors and krugs and dragon after, that can be seen as a win right? Or, is it just better to go to his own camps to deny that possibility at all.
Also, I was the one that actually posted the Oner video in the discord! So thank you so much for making a video on this topic.
excellent question man and i was going to bring this up but with graves on such big gold and having enough time to cover Viego's potential counterplay he should definitely cover the worst thing that can happen to him - remember, if they both do each other's camps they are trading...and yes, Graves recalling and doing Krugs/Raps is the same as Viego backing and doing his, but Graves can do whatever he wants after that 👍
@@Eagzv9 can't Viego also do whatever he wants after that?
@@ChasingLoLwell, viego in this spot is weaker
what @paulmccarthy4239 said, Viego is weaker and gets stomped by Graves @@ChasingLoL
8:40 what if Viego mindgames and actually paths into your botside jungle? He would have bot prio cuz of the bounce too.
Learned a ton, that ping from enemy graves on Oner's krugs at the end was epic validation
wouldn't care if he took time taking my Level 1 camps and when I see them gone, I can just run into his bot side and fight him on his level 4 raps/krugs and kill bot if possible, or just Drake after (you will probably catch Viego as well at the last camp tbh) - and glad you learned a lot man 🙌
I'm gold but I still don't think to count enemy cs and what camps he might have done or not done to invade. But I know early game everyone revives too fast so doing drake that early can be a throw because they all will revive and be there before I finish drake. Specially with drakes having that high hp now.
if the enemy champs are 10 seconds out of base you can never hit Drake, but if they are still dead and you're right next to it, doing it is probs fine
Just gotta make a habit out of it. At some point you'll just press tab and you'll recognize patterns easily. Started bot and showed with 12 cs and two buffs? Probably raptors are up. Just an example.
Hey Coach great video as always. I just wanted to ask at 8:50 about that "forcing minon wave". I thouth that better play is to take your respawn top camps and invades enemy raptors. After all mid and bot are weak, meanwhile enemy poppy can easly punish you heavly for invading. I wonder what would you think about that idea.
not sure what you're asking bro ima be honest...forcing minion wave and the enemy poppy?
this is literally gold
means a lot man ty
my 2 fav jg players in one video
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I'm silver 4 lmao what am I doing here XD
It's inspiring to see how advanced this game is played at a high level, I'm definitely looking to apply 1 little thing at a time and working to get there one day!
Do you have some thoughts on the changes/proposed jungle changes from Phreak? Can you do a video covering it?
ive honestly been too busy to look at them man haha, but i definitely will soon and can make a reaction video for sure 👍
Yeah i get it, but the Viego so bronze he prolly end up going my bott side, and laners never ever react..... so what do we do then? XD
Eagz, in a game where they have the stronger jungler, lets say at level 5 graves vs ekko. If you are topside and they have just ganked botlane and you're unsure whether they will base or invade, is it better to take the risk and invade? Assuming no objectives are up, no ganks are available and both jungles potentially invaded are fully up. What would be the best decision in this case?
you always play against the worst that can happen to you so no, you don’t go for a risky invade if they can cover it - that’s just flipping pre much
@@Eagzv9 cool, thanks!
very useful thanks
happy it helped man 😊
This was a great video, and I appreciate the detailed decision making. What would be the play if after graces does dragon and viego counters the jungle camps, how should graves look to respond? Is the map set to 0, so graves should be looking for ways to get ahead?
Could you do a video about placing wards for jungle tracking? I feel like I place wards, but I end up not getting any value out of them because often the enemy jg doesn't go where I think they should based on camps respawning. Bronze elo btw.
hey man good question, so after Graves runs to his top camps and sees that they're gone (he probably shouldn't even check Krugs, just straight to Raps - and I said something similar to this in my Gryffinn video/review) he can think about Viego's bot camps 👍
you shouldnt need wards for tracking junglers bro, you cant have 4 wards on 4 camps the whole game...if they don't go where they should go then they are leaving counterplay
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Amazing video
thank you man glad you enjoyed
recall or do crab (because of prio on mid, otherwise recall instantly is better for sure) and recall agree, he is already below half hp, cant do much and over 1k gold already, plus he cannot even put a ward to cover his bot side because its on cd
id be more than happy taking Viego's level 4 camps as well and potentially giving him my Level 1 camps - and in this game that would never happen because Graves's bot side of the map is so ahead
coach eagz i wish u do a video like this for midlaners xD please make one
will try to bro haha
BEST COACH SUIIIIIIIIIII@@Eagzv9
9:45 invading here, what if you mess up and he gets the camps on time/wins the smite battle or if your laners dont have prio? would you just go just go back and farm your camps? Or would you try bother him again and go to meet him at his bottom side camps again?
don't mess up, wrap between his wolves/blue and contest him on Gromp - like the Kaos clip I show, and yes afterwards you can think of running to other side of his jungle 👍
Just curious what you think, if the graves read that the lee sin will cover red top side then go for a straight counter jungle to red bottom side, should Lee gank top and take graves top side or cover red bot lane?
cover red bot lane and pressure graves’ bot side
Awesome 🤯
thanks bro, is that the brain explosion emoji or something hahaha
@@Eagzv9 It's exactly that ^^
What's Viego suppose to do, if Graves does go to his blue after reset?
can think of running to Graves's Raps first then back to Crab/his topside 👍
thoughts of stealing enemy jg then repeating bot after the repeat gank at 5mins in game on arfreezy vid?
it's not bad but not great because Viego might cover right and Graves is making plays when he can make any play he wants after backing again with 1100 gold 👍
The dragon play would have been good if he took his topside before no ?
yes, very good bro
@CoachEagz Hey coach! I sincerely cannot wrap my head around how to apply these tactics to the other side of the map, the play makes sense on red side but on blue side how would it work out? do you just make a different play for that side of the map?
not really man because it's the same map just flipped haha maybe instead of Krugs/Raps you can replace them with Gromp/Wolves and vice versa but yeh, not sure how it would change tbh
Im a low elo jungler so excuse me but if the graves knew oner would go to his krugs why didnt he invade his blue side? is it because he knew the entrance to oner's blue was warded? or lets say if he knew it wasnt warded why didnt he invade blue?
way too risky because of that reason and Oner can run after the Graves on his bot side, great question btw 🧠
@@Eagzv9 I understand now thank you for replying!
Hello Eagz, I am a top main but want to change to jungle because top has almost no impact in the game, what would be a great champ to start to learn jg and can apply these tactics easily?
Nocturne is ideal bro tbh, maybe Amumu for AP
what are your takes on the future nerfs to jungle? will jungle still be worth playing?
Jungle will always be best role
id take it as a challenge, nerf jungle and ill still be chally...but yeh we'll have to wait and see bro haha haven't looked at them tbh
watching these vids instantly deactivates autopilot no matter how mentally fatigued you are lol
Do this, but a game where you are constantly behind
Brabissimo
dame to bucks, what u think
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Hi what you think about the jungle nerf?? Im kha OTP and i think the game is over for me . They nerfed Everything :D
doesnt really bother me tbh, buffs and nerfs come and go and jungling has been the same for 13 years, will be the same for another 13
i play in silver I get counterjungled once every 20 games lol
None of these videos actually helped me climb. I feel like i did everything right and i still lose lategame like the early game did nothing. All these videos did for me is coming back to league to suffer. Now i quit again after a 6 losersqueue loss streak where the enemy gold players play like challenger apparently
you dont do everything right bro if you're losing in gold (id say the same to a master/gm player)
the idea and the concept of the video is fine but man 10 minutes of talking about almost the same stuff is just boring. you could ve made a list or smth and tell these "scenarios or plays" and move on. you keep going back and forth about the same topic is just threw me off for this video. dont get me wrong i find your videos very useful and it makes me think jungling very differently but man this one was like "lets play it and see" for me
you seem to be the only one out of 10,000 to think that bro, and im not just ‘talking’…im explaining in full detail why this is chally jungling - it takes a minute
@@Eagzv9 i will try to watch it another time with another mood you may be right.