Theory: The reason that those "common" pokemon did not spawn is because the game can only load a specific number of pokemon over the entire match. Those 9 happened to be the last 9 that would spawn, and thus could not be loaded. The other tests showed more that were not spawned, but maybe that is because the other person did not use the temple stage, so extra pokemon were in the pool of possible spawns.
That’s possible. Another theory is that there is an RNG seed and sometimes these seeds only have a certain number of slots. Similar to what you said really
Also, it's possible that the ai only throws poke balls on certain frames causing only certain Pokémon to spawn. I feel like this is least likely though, because of the slopes on this stage.
@@slushbucket707 each frame would present a different RNG value. In my mind, the decision to throw the pokeball is somewhat RNG dependent, meaning that the frame that the pokeball is thrown would be correlated to the frame that the pokeball lands. Assuming that the Pokémon is selected upon the pokeball opening (an assumption I now think is incorrect), the RNG seed of the selected Pokémon would be dependent upon the RNG of the cpu that throws the pokeball (given that the same amount of frames occur between throwing the ball and the ball landing). Again, I think my assumptions are incorrect, since the slopes give a lot of variance in frames between throw and land, many RNG values should decide to throw but don't "map" to the same Pokémon, the decision to throw can result be in any 4 directions and in the air, smash or unsmashed and z dropped, giving many different durations from throw to pokeball opening, and more than likely pokeballs are determined upon spawning not upon landing, like in training.
I really really hoped that when Steve was getting added to Smash, turning him Gold or Metal would give him Gold and Iron armor coresponding the effect. I didn't get what I wished but its ok. We got a cool parry shield tho.
Fun Fact, some assist trophies and Pokemon disappear when a final smash is activated, mainly the ones that directly affect the stage like Palkia, Devil, or the Fatal Frame Girl.
So coming from a modder, I think Yoshi’s egg turns metal because they just reused the shield. Note that the shield and up B are technically separate, but they have identical textures and the models are only different in size.
I wonder if that Toon Link thing was changed in Ultimate? Like the 3DS version (as shown) only did it for Toon Link, but for some reason, they just expanded it all Links in Ultimate.
follow up question: when Yoshi's golden egg is pocketed does it retain the damage increase, does it get the damage increase from isabell/villager being gold, does it get both?
The Toon Link/Alfonso fact reminded me about how a lot of uncommon knowledge of Smash is in the tips. Like when Roy players found “tech” that made Side-B connect better (3rd swing up into middle for 4th), there is an in-game tip that says to do that.
Makes sense. For fighters with 2D eye textures like Meta Knight, Ditto skips the eyes in his replication process. Therefore Inking one of these Dittoed characters would have no effect on the eyes, as they aren’t there to be inked.
There's a simple way to test how reasonable your result is. Since we know how the pokemon sampling algorithm is supposed to work, we can implement it ourselves and run it over and over again. I copied the frequencies from the smash wiki and removed ditto and sampled 250 pokemon 100,000 times. Based on that, here are the number of times a specific number of pokemon didn't spawn. 0: 965 1: 5330 2: 13732 3: 20861 4: 22679 5: 17752 6: 10864 7: 5085 8: 1906 9: 651 10: 144 11: 28 12: 3 Based on those numbers, the chance of 8 or more pokemon not spawning by coincidence is about 2.7%, a little more likely than 1 in 40. This is gotten by adding up all the samples where 8 or more pokemon didn't spawn and dividing the sum by 100,000, the number of trials. Pretty low, low enough to take note but not so low it couldn't be a coincidence. Here's my code (written in Mathematica) Pokes = {{"Alolan Raichu", 40}, {"Vulpix", 40}, {"Alolan Vulpix", 40}, {"Meowth", 32}, {"Abra", 40}, {"Electrode", 40}, {"Alolan Exeggutor", 40}, {"Goldeen", 40}, {"Staryu", 32}, {"Ditto", 40}, {"Eevee", 40}, {"Snorlax", 32}, {"Moltres", 8}, {"Mew", 5}, {"Togepi", 34}, {"Bellossom", 32}, {"Scizor", 40}, {"Entei", 8}, {"Suicune", 8}, {"Lugia", 10}, {"Gardevoir", 34}, {"Metagross", 32}, {"Latias & Latios", 8}, {"Kyogre", 8}, {"Deoxys", 8}, {"Abomasnow", 40}, {"Palkia", 12}, {"Giratina", 12}, {"Darkrai", 12}, {"Arceus", 12}, {"Victini", 12}, {"Snivy", 38}, {"Oshawott", 38}, {"Zoroark", 12}, {"Kyurem", 12}, {"Keldeo", 12}, {"Meloetta", 10}, {"Genesect", 12}, {"Chespin", 42}, {"Fennekin", 42}, {"Fletchling", 40}, {"Spewpa", 40}, {"Gogoat", 40}, {"Swirlix", 40}, {"Inkay", 40}, {"Dedenne", 42}, {"Xerneas", 12}, {"Bewear", 40}, {"Pyukumuku", 40}, {"Togedemaru", 40}, {"Mimikyu", 40}, {"Tapu Koko", 12}, {"Solgaleo", 12}, {"Lunala", 12}, {"Marshadow", 12}}; Pokes2 = Pokes /. {"Ditto", _} :> Nothing; Trials = 100000; Table[ Length@Pokes2 - (RandomChoice[Pokes2[[All, 2]] -> Pokes2[[All, 1]], 250] // DeleteDuplicates // Length), {Trials}] // Tally // Sort Total[%[[9 ;; All, 2]]]/Trials // N
The music you use in your videos is always crazy nostalgic to me. I was listening and slowly realized that I recognized the song. I said "that sounds just like pokemon ranger" and sure enough I check the description and it is! Your music choices are always 👌
Hear me out on this Maybe it's because the egg is also Yoshi's shield. If he were in his shield and it wasn't metal/gold, you really wouldn't be able to tell, so they recolour his shield too, which also changed the model the projectile uses, which is why other characters may not have this In other words, both the shield and projectile reference the same model when put into play, since one of the two covers Yoshi's body completely, to not disrupt the flow of the game they change the texture of the base model, which also changes the texture of the projectile as an unintended side effect, but since it doesn't really look wrong they just went along with it and decided not to fix it. Honestly, this is the explaination that makes the most sense.
That link fact is actually one of those hints on the loading screens, I've seen it before. But before seeing that hint I did think it was only toon link because that makes sense
It makes sense in a performance perspective to have only a group of pokemon spawn on every match. The game probably has all of the possible pokemon allocated on memory when the match starts, and to cut out loading times, the developers might have decided to cut down on potential pokemon that might appear during that memory allocation stage. Note that this is very different for now the game loaded assets in Super Smash Bros Brawl, as you could tell from a slight frame drop followed by a Pokeball item spawn that the game was loading a new asset in real time from disc. This was also the case for transformation fighters and stages, and as far as I can tell, this real-tiem loading technique was never used anymore for the rest of the series because of the issues that'd arise with online play. The only instance of real-time loading on Ultimate that I can remember is Stage Morph, and even then, I'm guessing only the stage music is actually being streamed on real-time, as music files are usually too large to keep on RAM.
Random Smash Ultimate Fact: Link’s *grounded* up special actually sends him into freefall. I found this out while using it on the bridge in Gerudo Valley. I bet it works on other breakable platforms too.
That "dude I could be gaming" gag was so good lmao Yknow, from what I remember back when I modded smash 4, a few things like yoshis eggs, and villagers tools had separate files. Yoshis eggs were also really glitchy when editted, and you couldn't add more than 8 slots without crashing the game. I think it could have something to do with having unique coding thst other projectiles don't have. Now, this makes me curious. If metal and gold change the color of Steve's tools, would it do that for Villagers too? Specifically his slingshot, bug net, shovel, watering can and axe. The fact that Steves tools can be edited makes me wonder if that would happen for villager due to having uniquely coded tools too (these could be colour edited in smash 4 for reference)
Fun fact: Mii Brawler and Mii Gunner have certain outfits where the models are ripped directly from Smash 4, meaning the hands don’t have individual fingers. Mii Swordfighter, on the other hand, has beautifully sculpted HD hands for every single outfit, either returning or otherwise. This even applies to the outfits that are shared between all 3 Mii fighters, like the SSB T-Shirt or the Business Suit. Mii Swordfighter gets brand-new individually articulated fingers for these shared outfits, while Mii Brawler and Mii Gunner are stuck with the old Smash Wii U brick hands. Note that for DLC costumes that were imported from Smash 4, the developers took extra time to remodel the hands. This can be seen in the Heihachi outfit or Geno costume for example.
The whole any Link replacing the conductor Link is also a thing in smash 3ds, having regular Link in the match also replaces the Link driving the train
My Theory for the Young Link thing is that Fighters have specific metadata tags to help sort them out and apply different interactions, so you'd have tags like "legend-of-zelda" (for all LoZ characters), "botw-link" (for OG Link), "link" (for the three link clones), etc. and someone assigned the stage interaction to a "link" tag rather than a "toon-link" tag. I have no evidence for this other than my knowledge of programming (which I'm in school for rn) and observing what happens.
Fun fact about the Alfonzo thing, in the early days of Smash 4 footage, the regular Link was shown on Spirit Train with the Spirit Tracks Link conducting. So perhaps it was just meant to be Toon Link that would trigger that at one point?
I think the other pokemon didnt spawn because the game only allows a select few to be 'available' to spawn. and this switches each match. Just like on any match with items, you will never see EVERY item. just repeats of a certain amount. that is likely why but cant be certain
Some clarification about smash toon link Both toon link from wind weaker and phantom hourglass are the same link (PH is a direct sequel to WW) Also spirit track link (the game the train stage is based on) is a different link than the WW/PH one (ST actually happens 2 generations after WW/PH because ST Zelda refer to tetra/WWzelda as her grandmother and one of the characters from WW/PH is actually still alive in ST)
the reason why some of the projectiles don't change with the state of the character, like Peach/Daisy's turnips, the Link's bombs, or an obscure one like Wario's bike, is because in the game they are coded as an item, if they were coded as a projectiles, then the other characters would not be able to pick them up, of course and the thing with Alfonzo, it said in Smash 3DS in the game that he replaces Link if either of them are in the battle
The Pokemon thing is probably because rng is based on seeds usually, so it’s possible that some randomized seeds skip certain pokemon entirely. In a normal match, it would likely go unnoticed so it’s probably why it still happens.
A reason why yoshi's egg might turn gold or metal, is likely because it shares a texture with his shield, egg roll, and ect. Which is a stand-in for him when he uses them. Game&Watch and others share colors, but they are not textures that are placed on the charcter themselves.
I think that the only reason Yoshi's eggs change to metal or gold is because they share textures with the sheild egg. Yes for anyone who forgot Yoshi is the only character with a unique shield and we for some reason haven't gotten any other unique shields since Smash 64.
I think the reason yoshi's egg is different is because it's a player model when yoshi shields it replaces his current model with the egg model and the egg model is different for every alt, and because the egg we throws uses the same model as his shield it changes to metal and such but that's just a theory
I think the reason why yoshi's up B eggs turn gold or metal is because they probably use similar code to his shield, which also changes color to match alt
Actually, I found something that Wiki is wrong about. It says there isn't any substantial difference between the lava floors in Great Cave/Stage Builder between Smash 4 and Ultimate, but there's actually a difference that completely changes how these stages play. They made the Lava untechable in Ultimate. Before in Great Cave you could save yourself from the insta kill by teching the lava, but now that you can't tech it you are guaranteed to die. While stage builder isn't insta kill, being able to tech still could save you in many situations. This stage completely ruined my Lava Box level I tried bringing back from Smash 4. The whole point of the level was to use it as a tech training ground, but now you can't =b
The Link in Spirit Tracks is NOT the same Link that was present in Wind Waker and its sequel Phantom Hourglass. This is confirmed in the game--for example, Niko (one of Tetra's crew members) is shown as an old man supervising Link in Spirit Tracks, even giving Link the Shield of Antiquity (which looks exactly like Link's shield from Phantom Hourglass). My best guess as to why Engineer Link is replaced with Alfonzo in the presence of other Links is to prevent "time paradoxes" or whatever other issues that would arise from one incarnation of Link meeting another incarnation of Link. This wouldn't explain different incarnations of Link being able to fight each other, but it's the best explanation I can come up with.
Could it be possible that the randomizer seed generates a table of Pokemon out of all the ones in the game? That way the game wouldn't have to load too many models.
What I found weird was that Toon Link is primarily based on the hero of winds who comes from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, however, the toon link on the spirit tracks is the hero of spirits (I think), which is different from the hero of winds Bc Spirit Tracks takes place 100 years after Phantom Hourglass. This means that Toon Link, (or any of the links for that matter), shouldn’t be swapped out for conductor Link
I think with the missing common pokemon on temple, some of them are pokemon that control a certain area of the stage, such as bellossom, swirlix and spewpa, and vulpix and fennekin might go a bit weird with the stage’s slants. not sure why eevee and fletchling are missing, but they are very similar to each other, so there is probably a reason
I think why some Pokémon didn’t spawn because the seed of which the game was played on didn’t have it in the order. A seed is an order of which a thing can happen in a game, and is used to resemble randomness. Online, a seed changes very fast, but on single player it might not change which causes the Pokémon to appear in a setter order, which some Pokémon aren’t included it seems. I hope this clarifies some stuff
12:00 I'm pretty sure it's because Yoshi's Egg Roll and Egg Throw use the same Egg model. And since the Egg Roll is considered the character, well... you do the math.
I'm pretty sure that the 1v1 multiplier doesn't go away when spawning an item is that Item spawns are still off. You summoning an item is different from it turning on item spawns
It would've been funny if they made it so Ditto just absorbs one of the 8 other fighters like Majin Buu before transforming & they can't come back until he's gone.
Yoshi’s egg changes color because it is the exact same model as Yoshi’s shield. Since Yoshi’s shield does change in color when becoming gold or metal, so does the model of the egg.
My favorite season is Winter. I melt in the heat and absolutely cannot function. In the Winter you can layer up as much as you need. What am I supposed to do in the Summer? The last time I walked around naked people threw garbage at me. That's why I feel like I can never leave the Northeast.
For the Yoshi fact, I’m guessing that it turns metal/gold may be because the egg for egg toss uses the same or similar code to spawn as yoshi’s shield and egg roll. Those are coded so they change material so that you can always tell when Yoshi’s metal or gold, so they probably copied the scripts for one or both of them to the egg toss because the egg model is either the same for all/some of them all just scaled differently
I was trying to take an ARMS themed screenshot one time by turning assist trophies on high and obviously choosing Min Min and Spring Stadium and it took me about 2 hours to get Spring Man
I wonder if the thrown egg simply copies the model for Yoshi's Egg Roll. If the projectile copies a model or texture intended for the controlled character, that might explain the inconsistency in projectile effects.
Maybe the yoshi eggs being gold and link bombs not is because yoshi’s shield is also an egg, so it might use the custom shield texture.
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It would also be the same model for side-b, and it should be metal/gold, but I have yet to see that move used so...
I wonder how it works w neutral b, like what color the egg you’re in turns
@@neidenMetalun I'm pretty sure it is too!
@@J242D
Yeah
Theory:
The reason that those "common" pokemon did not spawn is because the game can only load a specific number of pokemon over the entire match. Those 9 happened to be the last 9 that would spawn, and thus could not be loaded. The other tests showed more that were not spawned, but maybe that is because the other person did not use the temple stage, so extra pokemon were in the pool of possible spawns.
That’s possible. Another theory is that there is an RNG seed and sometimes these seeds only have a certain number of slots. Similar to what you said really
Also, it's possible that the ai only throws poke balls on certain frames causing only certain Pokémon to spawn. I feel like this is least likely though, because of the slopes on this stage.
@@drowzypollinator640 why would it have to do with frames at all?
@@slushbucket707 each frame would present a different RNG value. In my mind, the decision to throw the pokeball is somewhat RNG dependent, meaning that the frame that the pokeball is thrown would be correlated to the frame that the pokeball lands. Assuming that the Pokémon is selected upon the pokeball opening (an assumption I now think is incorrect), the RNG seed of the selected Pokémon would be dependent upon the RNG of the cpu that throws the pokeball (given that the same amount of frames occur between throwing the ball and the ball landing).
Again, I think my assumptions are incorrect, since the slopes give a lot of variance in frames between throw and land, many RNG values should decide to throw but don't "map" to the same Pokémon, the decision to throw can result be in any 4 directions and in the air, smash or unsmashed and z dropped, giving many different durations from throw to pokeball opening, and more than likely pokeballs are determined upon spawning not upon landing, like in training.
Also, it's possible that many RNG calls could happen between the throw and the landing of the pokeball, making
the amount of RNG calls, in fact, RNG.
I really really hoped that when Steve was getting added to Smash, turning him Gold or Metal would give him Gold and Iron armor coresponding the effect. I didn't get what I wished but its ok. We got a cool parry shield tho.
Just thought of how satisfying the animation would be and now I need to go look into the sunset for a bit
That would have been weird.
Hopefully maybe one day therell be a mod for it
7:36 There is a tip in the game which says that if any of the links are on the stage then toonlink will be replaced with alfonzo.
I think the Toon Link Alfonso thing is maybe just so Alfonso gets seen more often by allowing the other Links to allow him to show up as well
Fun Fact, some assist trophies and Pokemon disappear when a final smash is activated, mainly the ones that directly affect the stage like Palkia, Devil, or the Fatal Frame Girl.
That makes sense. You wouldn't want something like Cloud's final smashes upsidedown.
Her name is Yuri Kozukata, you uncultured sauce bucket
@@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 LOL beautiful comment
I wonder if this applies to cutscene final smashed as well.
Yeah i knew that, but that kinda sucks honestly
So coming from a modder, I think Yoshi’s egg turns metal because they just reused the shield. Note that the shield and up B are technically separate, but they have identical textures and the models are only different in size.
It is hilarious to me that you called Sakurai’s Miiverse post a “tweet”
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I wonder if that Toon Link thing was changed in Ultimate? Like the 3DS version (as shown) only did it for Toon Link, but for some reason, they just expanded it all Links in Ultimate.
@@miquelfire In 3DS, if you use Link on the Spirit Train stage, Alfonzo will still show up.
follow up question: when Yoshi's golden egg is pocketed does it retain the damage increase, does it get the damage increase from isabell/villager being gold, does it get both?
I feel like the game excludes a group of about 9 Pokemon every game to save on resources or something and that's why there's groups that don't spawn
Yes! It's the more likely explanation. A difference in load times from regular matches and training mode may further corroborate this theory
Cute PFP!
Ditto just gets nervous in front of crowds...
1:32
ok but can we talk about how smooth that combo was?
Amazing
yoshi egg is used for his shield and side-B, thats why it turns goldand metal
The Toon Link/Alfonso fact reminded me about how a lot of uncommon knowledge of Smash is in the tips. Like when Roy players found “tech” that made Side-B connect better (3rd swing up into middle for 4th), there is an in-game tip that says to do that.
If a ditto transfers into M.K and gets ink my inkling. His eyes will still be nothing but purple
Ditto for Mortal kombat
Makes sense. For fighters with 2D eye textures like Meta Knight, Ditto skips the eyes in his replication process. Therefore Inking one of these Dittoed characters would have no effect on the eyes, as they aren’t there to be inked.
To be fair, with the common Pokemon not spawning, it could just be a weird way the game handles its RNG.
There's a simple way to test how reasonable your result is. Since we know how the pokemon sampling algorithm is supposed to work, we can implement it ourselves and run it over and over again. I copied the frequencies from the smash wiki and removed ditto and sampled 250 pokemon 100,000 times. Based on that, here are the number of times a specific number of pokemon didn't spawn.
0: 965
1: 5330
2: 13732
3: 20861
4: 22679
5: 17752
6: 10864
7: 5085
8: 1906
9: 651
10: 144
11: 28
12: 3
Based on those numbers, the chance of 8 or more pokemon not spawning by coincidence is about 2.7%, a little more likely than 1 in 40. This is gotten by adding up all the samples where 8 or more pokemon didn't spawn and dividing the sum by 100,000, the number of trials. Pretty low, low enough to take note but not so low it couldn't be a coincidence.
Here's my code (written in Mathematica)
Pokes = {{"Alolan Raichu", 40}, {"Vulpix", 40}, {"Alolan Vulpix",
40}, {"Meowth", 32}, {"Abra", 40}, {"Electrode",
40}, {"Alolan Exeggutor", 40}, {"Goldeen", 40}, {"Staryu",
32}, {"Ditto", 40}, {"Eevee", 40}, {"Snorlax", 32}, {"Moltres",
8}, {"Mew", 5}, {"Togepi", 34}, {"Bellossom", 32}, {"Scizor",
40}, {"Entei", 8}, {"Suicune", 8}, {"Lugia", 10}, {"Gardevoir",
34}, {"Metagross", 32}, {"Latias & Latios", 8}, {"Kyogre",
8}, {"Deoxys", 8}, {"Abomasnow", 40}, {"Palkia", 12}, {"Giratina",
12}, {"Darkrai", 12}, {"Arceus", 12}, {"Victini", 12}, {"Snivy",
38}, {"Oshawott", 38}, {"Zoroark", 12}, {"Kyurem", 12}, {"Keldeo",
12}, {"Meloetta", 10}, {"Genesect", 12}, {"Chespin",
42}, {"Fennekin", 42}, {"Fletchling", 40}, {"Spewpa",
40}, {"Gogoat", 40}, {"Swirlix", 40}, {"Inkay", 40}, {"Dedenne",
42}, {"Xerneas", 12}, {"Bewear", 40}, {"Pyukumuku",
40}, {"Togedemaru", 40}, {"Mimikyu", 40}, {"Tapu Koko",
12}, {"Solgaleo", 12}, {"Lunala", 12}, {"Marshadow", 12}};
Pokes2 = Pokes /. {"Ditto", _} :> Nothing;
Trials = 100000;
Table[
Length@Pokes2 -
(RandomChoice[Pokes2[[All, 2]] -> Pokes2[[All, 1]], 250] // DeleteDuplicates // Length),
{Trials}] // Tally // Sort
Total[%[[9 ;; All, 2]]]/Trials // N
The music you use in your videos is always crazy nostalgic to me. I was listening and slowly realized that I recognized the song. I said "that sounds just like pokemon ranger" and sure enough I check the description and it is! Your music choices are always 👌
Hear me out on this
Maybe it's because the egg is also Yoshi's shield.
If he were in his shield and it wasn't metal/gold, you really wouldn't be able to tell, so they recolour his shield too, which also changed the model the projectile uses, which is why other characters may not have this
In other words, both the shield and projectile reference the same model when put into play, since one of the two covers Yoshi's body completely, to not disrupt the flow of the game they change the texture of the base model, which also changes the texture of the projectile as an unintended side effect, but since it doesn't really look wrong they just went along with it and decided not to fix it.
Honestly, this is the explaination that makes the most sense.
It's so hysterical when Steve turns metal because for a moment you can just see his eyes and that's it
Metal Steve is literally just the 'I am stone' challenge!
"Link is Link!" -Mr. Incredible. Imagine not making metal Steve into Steve with iron armor.
yoshi's egg may become golden eggs because is the same texture as his"shield"
I didn't know you used TH-cam, Mr. Naegi
I knew the Link one only because I used to do a lot of role-playing with my cousin and we would always use the train stage
Role playing in smash?
That sound cool!
Woah, that's SO WEIRD that Ditto shows a slot in the controller connection
What a crazy accidental discovery it seems that user found
That link fact is actually one of those hints on the loading screens, I've seen it before. But before seeing that hint I did think it was only toon link because that makes sense
It makes sense in a performance perspective to have only a group of pokemon spawn on every match. The game probably has all of the possible pokemon allocated on memory when the match starts, and to cut out loading times, the developers might have decided to cut down on potential pokemon that might appear during that memory allocation stage.
Note that this is very different for now the game loaded assets in Super Smash Bros Brawl, as you could tell from a slight frame drop followed by a Pokeball item spawn that the game was loading a new asset in real time from disc. This was also the case for transformation fighters and stages, and as far as I can tell, this real-tiem loading technique was never used anymore for the rest of the series because of the issues that'd arise with online play. The only instance of real-time loading on Ultimate that I can remember is Stage Morph, and even then, I'm guessing only the stage music is actually being streamed on real-time, as music files are usually too large to keep on RAM.
Random Smash Ultimate Fact: Link’s *grounded* up special actually sends him into freefall. I found this out while using it on the bridge in Gerudo Valley. I bet it works on other breakable platforms too.
“His anvils dont become metal” sooooo who’s gonna tell him?
He said metal, anvils are made of iron, dummy /s
@@mrpedrobraga anvil is a metal dummy /s
That "dude I could be gaming" gag was so good lmao
Yknow, from what I remember back when I modded smash 4, a few things like yoshis eggs, and villagers tools had separate files. Yoshis eggs were also really glitchy when editted, and you couldn't add more than 8 slots without crashing the game. I think it could have something to do with having unique coding thst other projectiles don't have.
Now, this makes me curious. If metal and gold change the color of Steve's tools, would it do that for Villagers too? Specifically his slingshot, bug net, shovel, watering can and axe. The fact that Steves tools can be edited makes me wonder if that would happen for villager due to having uniquely coded tools too (these could be colour edited in smash 4 for reference)
what i love about your videos is how thorough you are
12:08 scott in smash confirmed 199% real
12:06 That Sans wearing Lip's clothes is so cursed
Fun fact: Mii Brawler and Mii Gunner have certain outfits where the models are ripped directly from Smash 4, meaning the hands don’t have individual fingers. Mii Swordfighter, on the other hand, has beautifully sculpted HD hands for every single outfit, either returning or otherwise. This even applies to the outfits that are shared between all 3 Mii fighters, like the SSB T-Shirt or the Business Suit. Mii Swordfighter gets brand-new individually articulated fingers for these shared outfits, while Mii Brawler and Mii Gunner are stuck with the old Smash Wii U brick hands. Note that for DLC costumes that were imported from Smash 4, the developers took extra time to remodel the hands. This can be seen in the Heihachi outfit or Geno costume for example.
The whole any Link replacing the conductor Link is also a thing in smash 3ds, having regular Link in the match also replaces the Link driving the train
Well with pokemon thing, it seems like its always 8 pokemon missing at a time, so maybe the game selects 42 possible pokemon at a time per match
My Theory for the Young Link thing is that Fighters have specific metadata tags to help sort them out and apply different interactions, so you'd have tags like "legend-of-zelda" (for all LoZ characters), "botw-link" (for OG Link), "link" (for the three link clones), etc. and someone assigned the stage interaction to a "link" tag rather than a "toon-link" tag.
I have no evidence for this other than my knowledge of programming (which I'm in school for rn) and observing what happens.
Game Theory: Was player 4 Ness a DITTO ALL ALONG?
this reference is incredibly obscure
@@mmandersmc Alpharad has 3M subscribers ans Game Theory is borderline kids youtube. It's not that obscure
Fun fact about the Alfonzo thing, in the early days of Smash 4 footage, the regular Link was shown on Spirit Train with the Spirit Tracks Link conducting. So perhaps it was just meant to be Toon Link that would trigger that at one point?
I think the other pokemon didnt spawn because the game only allows a select few to be 'available' to spawn. and this switches each match. Just like on any match with items, you will never see EVERY item. just repeats of a certain amount. that is likely why but cant be certain
That laugh can cure cancer
12:10
I remember that in the smash for 3ds facts it says that if any of the links are in a match in spirit train Alfonso replaces link but I'm not sure.
Some clarification about smash toon link
Both toon link from wind weaker and phantom hourglass are the same link (PH is a direct sequel to WW)
Also spirit track link (the game the train stage is based on) is a different link than the WW/PH one (ST actually happens 2 generations after WW/PH because ST Zelda refer to tetra/WWzelda as her grandmother and one of the characters from WW/PH is actually still alive in ST)
oh my god he has a patreon called nestor, i didn’t think more of my kind existed
Omg these facts are all so interesting
This video is amazing
the reason why some of the projectiles don't change with the state of the character, like Peach/Daisy's turnips, the Link's bombs, or an obscure one like Wario's bike, is because in the game they are coded as an item, if they were coded as a projectiles, then the other characters would not be able to pick them up, of course
and the thing with Alfonzo, it said in Smash 3DS in the game that he replaces Link if either of them are in the battle
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PK Beats : C'MON NEW EANDOM SMASH ULTIMATE FACTS
Me : Super happy
i think one of the tips mentions that the Spirit Tracks easter egg can be done with Link in Smash4, and Link or Young Link in Ultimate
That ditto punch to knee was actually sick
Gold Yoshi is the new chicken in Jack and the Beanstalk.
The nostalgia of the Pokemon Ranger song omg
Idk if this is known, but one pressure plate can set off two TNT’s if the red stone is placed correctly, just like in Minecraft
That was a tip.
Fun Fact : you Constantly Dodge the beehive idem by Constantly swapping form pyra to mythra
Finally, here within the first minute
Ok.
The Pokemon thing is probably because rng is based on seeds usually, so it’s possible that some randomized seeds skip certain pokemon entirely. In a normal match, it would likely go unnoticed so it’s probably why it still happens.
12:55 steve can finally be a golden block
Ah yes, ditto. My favorite amorphous blob of danger jam.
Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia music in the background!! 💖💖💖
This thumbnail is absurdly funny to me lmaooo
I really like spring and autumn. I think they have some really nice vibes.
For the links it’s even weirder when you realized the link from spirit tracks isn’t even the link from wind waker
A reason why yoshi's egg might turn gold or metal, is likely because it shares a texture with his shield, egg roll, and ect. Which is a stand-in for him when he uses them. Game&Watch and others share colors, but they are not textures that are placed on the charcter themselves.
About Sprit Train, what happens when Toon Link is at the train but a Link spawns in a later stock in Squad Strike?
I think that the only reason Yoshi's eggs change to metal or gold is because they share textures with the sheild egg. Yes for anyone who forgot Yoshi is the only character with a unique shield and we for some reason haven't gotten any other unique shields since Smash 64.
8:43 are we gonna ignore that roll read that barely missed?
Yes, we are
12:12 Behold, the almighty Metal Block Man.
I just checked the 3DS version of Smash 4, and Alfonzo also takes charge of conductor duties with Twilight Princess Link.
I think the reason yoshi's egg is different is because it's a player model
when yoshi shields it replaces his current model with the egg model and the egg model is different for every alt, and because the egg we throws uses the same model as his shield it changes to metal and such
but that's just a theory
I think the reason why yoshi's up B eggs turn gold or metal is because they probably use similar code to his shield, which also changes color to match alt
When he brought up the wiki I immediately realized that I could learn everything I see here from the wiki
Enjoyed the video a lot :)
Actually, I found something that Wiki is wrong about. It says there isn't any substantial difference between the lava floors in Great Cave/Stage Builder between Smash 4 and Ultimate, but there's actually a difference that completely changes how these stages play. They made the Lava untechable in Ultimate. Before in Great Cave you could save yourself from the insta kill by teching the lava, but now that you can't tech it you are guaranteed to die. While stage builder isn't insta kill, being able to tech still could save you in many situations. This stage completely ruined my Lava Box level I tried bringing back from Smash 4. The whole point of the level was to use it as a tech training ground, but now you can't =b
1:34 so we’re just going to ignore that HYPE combo?
The Link in Spirit Tracks is NOT the same Link that was present in Wind Waker and its sequel Phantom Hourglass. This is confirmed in the game--for example, Niko (one of Tetra's crew members) is shown as an old man supervising Link in Spirit Tracks, even giving Link the Shield of Antiquity (which looks exactly like Link's shield from Phantom Hourglass).
My best guess as to why Engineer Link is replaced with Alfonzo in the presence of other Links is to prevent "time paradoxes" or whatever other issues that would arise from one incarnation of Link meeting another incarnation of Link. This wouldn't explain different incarnations of Link being able to fight each other, but it's the best explanation I can come up with.
He do be gaming at 6:33
Fall is my favorite season. Gotta love the colors and brisk weather
Maybe at the beginning of a game, a random list of Pokemon are chosen to never spawn.
Missed opportunity, Steve/Alex should totally wear iron/gold armor when picking up the corresponding power up.
Could it be possible that the randomizer seed generates a table of Pokemon out of all the ones in the game? That way the game wouldn't have to load too many models.
Yes, it is. This also happens in certain situations with styles from Mario Maker, where only 2 styles are loaded instead of all 4.
4:40 I'm also not an expert at statistics, but it's probable that at the beginning of every match a random table of pokemon is chosen to be available.
WHAT THE HECK? YOU CAN MAKE THE STAGE BUILDER 1ST PLAYER A CPU!?
What happens if you set both as CPU's!?
What I found weird was that Toon Link is primarily based on the hero of winds who comes from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, however, the toon link on the spirit tracks is the hero of spirits (I think), which is different from the hero of winds Bc Spirit Tracks takes place 100 years after Phantom Hourglass. This means that Toon Link, (or any of the links for that matter), shouldn’t be swapped out for conductor Link
I love Fall best... all three days of it we get in Colorado before it becomes too cold.
1:31 that combo doe 👀
6:29 Thanks for that. It was much appreciated.
Also, why do you like dressing sans as Lip?
I think Yoshi's up-b, side-b and shield share the same model+texture, that would be an explanation for the golden/metal projectile.
I think with the missing common pokemon on temple, some of them are pokemon that control a certain area of the stage, such as bellossom, swirlix and spewpa, and vulpix and fennekin might go a bit weird with the stage’s slants. not sure why eevee and fletchling are missing, but they are very similar to each other, so there is probably a reason
I think why some Pokémon didn’t spawn because the seed of which the game was played on didn’t have it in the order. A seed is an order of which a thing can happen in a game, and is used to resemble randomness. Online, a seed changes very fast, but on single player it might not change which causes the Pokémon to appear in a setter order, which some Pokémon aren’t included it seems. I hope this clarifies some stuff
I’m no expert but I think this is a good thing to bring up
12:00 I'm pretty sure it's because Yoshi's Egg Roll and Egg Throw use the same Egg model.
And since the Egg Roll is considered the character, well... you do the math.
There should have been a mechanic where Metal Steve temporarily has infinite Iron, or Gold Steve has infinite Gold.
I'm pretty sure that the 1v1 multiplier doesn't go away when spawning an item is that Item spawns are still off. You summoning an item is different from it turning on item spawns
Here is a little trick: if you pick up an assist trophy with megamans nair you can walk around with it as long as you keep mashing the A button
It would've been funny if they made it so Ditto just absorbs one of the 8 other fighters like Majin Buu before transforming & they can't come back until he's gone.
Yoshi’s egg changes color because it is the exact same model as Yoshi’s shield. Since Yoshi’s shield does change in color when becoming gold or metal, so does the model of the egg.
My favorite season is Winter. I melt in the heat and absolutely cannot function. In the Winter you can layer up as much as you need. What am I supposed to do in the Summer? The last time I walked around naked people threw garbage at me. That's why I feel like I can never leave the Northeast.
For the Yoshi fact, I’m guessing that it turns metal/gold may be because the egg for egg toss uses the same or similar code to spawn as yoshi’s shield and egg roll. Those are coded so they change material so that you can always tell when Yoshi’s metal or gold, so they probably copied the scripts for one or both of them to the egg toss because the egg model is either the same for all/some of them all just scaled differently
I was trying to take an ARMS themed screenshot one time by turning assist trophies on high and obviously choosing Min Min and Spring Stadium and it took me about 2 hours to get Spring Man
I wonder if the thrown egg simply copies the model for Yoshi's Egg Roll. If the projectile copies a model or texture intended for the controlled character, that might explain the inconsistency in projectile effects.
First? Either way, love the videos! Keep up the great work and remember to take some time to yourself (:
6:12 you forgot triforce heroes, they went with the toon design on that game
And Wind Waker HD, but that hardly counts.