GRAMMY Voter Hates Lana Del Rey

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  • @PinkFlag06
    @PinkFlag06 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1506

    Grammy voters proving that they don't know anything about music

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      *voter. If this is even real it’s still only one person. There’s thousands of people who vote

    • @ivaerz4977
      @ivaerz4977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's All AI controlled now

    • @quirrell-zd1eq
      @quirrell-zd1eq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      who even gives a shit about grammy anyway

    • @Jaylade
      @Jaylade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      source?@@ivaerz4977

    • @etrandex6407
      @etrandex6407 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@quirrell-zd1eq A lot of people care about them because the music that gets nominated appeals to a casual audience. That’s the main thing we need to note, they mostly nominate based off how mainstream or popular the music is, not the quality.

  • @chrisxbarrera
    @chrisxbarrera 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2497

    “I honestly find it distasteful that anyone would consider such a violent song like ‘Kill Bill’ anything worthy of praise. I listened to her album a mere one time before voting”.
    how do they choose these people 😭

    • @tylerrock7219
      @tylerrock7219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +196

      This reminds me of a Common Sense Media review I once saw for The Incredibles where they said "Since when was something being 'wicked' a good thing?" The level of ignorance for the sake of sticking to outdated cultural norms is crazy ☠️

    • @chazcmeekins83
      @chazcmeekins83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @tylerrock7219 wait what? Seriously? why would they say that & what was it referring to?

    • @gclip9883
      @gclip9883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      I had a suspicion that she was snubbed because voters thought that the lyrics were too controversial. Because in every respect, Kill Bill is a better song than Flowers. I would even say that i like the lyrics better because it is not your run-of-the mill breakup song - you know, like Flowers.

    • @Fukuro14
      @Fukuro14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That one voter apparently can't take Lana seriously, but they've been handing out Grammys to Taylor like it's candy. A criticism like that would make more sense if it was leveled against Taylor, and it would still be unfair. Fucking hate these people.

    • @danang5
      @danang5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      pure connection, a.k.a. good ol nepotism

  • @ApocalypseMoose
    @ApocalypseMoose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3563

    "Its a shame acts like Boygenius and Fiona Apple are seen as the face of rock music instead of Foo Fighters or Springsteen" is a weird way to say you don't like female musicians.

    • @Dattebayo
      @Dattebayo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +500

      You can tell he is so out of the loop even with his idols because Springsteen for the last 5 years has been actively naming Lana as his favorite new musician. He even went on live TV with Stephen Colbert to praise Lana’s music.

    • @wastepreserve
      @wastepreserve 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      truuueee

    • @aR0ttenBANANA
      @aR0ttenBANANA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +196

      @@Dattebayoand is Fiona Apple even rock? It’s just a weird coupling to make his point which is already stupid to begin with.

    • @Safetysealed
      @Safetysealed 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

      Foo Fighters are possibly the most generic, formulaic, and outright unimaginative band in mainstream rock music right now. Their last half decent album being Wasting Light, which came out 4 records and 13 years ago.
      Boygenius showed more variety on one album than Foo fightrers did in the entirety of their last 5.
      Not only is his point bollocks to begin with, but he picked quite possibly the worst example to try and prove it.

    • @p0werfu11
      @p0werfu11 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He didn't said that.

  • @duane_313
    @duane_313 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2197

    Reading this was so cringe! What he said about SZA’s work and just handing Taylor the vote just because shes been in the media all year really tells you what kind of judgmental idiots we have voting in this process.

    • @BunzJackson
      @BunzJackson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

      Grammy voters really have always seemed like a bunch of boomers looking at sales or streaming numbers more than anything. Its honestly a shock whenever a legit deserving artist wins.

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Dude genuinely sounds like he’s like an absolute dinosur

    • @rurubelle2920
      @rurubelle2920 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      Aaaaand... this is why I've never taken any awards show seriously. Grammys, Oscars, Golden Globes, etc... They're all the same. The winners are decided by a bunch of ancient people who haven't been in touch with pop culture or the music/art/film scene since the late 70s early 80s.

    • @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
      @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      ​@rurubelle2920 In the other hand. If the public would vote instead of them probably Drake would win every year. The Grammys are bad but the public is not better.

    • @romirosta1917
      @romirosta1917 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801There are fan voted awards including American Music Awards (AMAS) and Video Music Awards (VMA) and Taylor Swift also broke the records for the most win in the main category from the fan voted awards cause she has the biggest fanbase on the planet. Other than that, if we want to see the award from the general public there is also Billboard Music Awards (BBMA) cause this awards based on chart success+sales+radio (general public consumption) and Taylor Swift broke the record for the most win in Billboard Music Awards history. In conclusion, Taylor Swif is beloved not only buy the fans (AMAS, VMA), music critics (Grammys) but also by general public (BBMA).

  • @kilianmcgaffin2473
    @kilianmcgaffin2473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1719

    the random Fiona Apple diss was the worst part

    • @burnt.norton
      @burnt.norton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

      he’s just mad that she has the career, wits, and value as a human being that that he never will

    • @kilianmcgaffin2473
      @kilianmcgaffin2473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      facts

    • @djusdj
      @djusdj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fiona apple? Never heard of her

    • @stefanrw
      @stefanrw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Totally agree - like has this person ever heard a Fiona Apple album? Especially 'Fetch The Bolt Cutters', which is her best to date in my opinion. Although I love all her albums. The boygenius album is genuinely boring but I guess I can see the appeal (and I like all the members' music individually), but to mention them in the same breath as Fiona Apple is *so* bizarre?? They have absolutely nothing at all in common. And the notion that Fiona Apple is even positioning herself as "the face of rock music" or whatever the guy says is frankly baffling... she's a fucking classically trained pianist and firmly in the singer-songwriter category (as broad as that is) and isn't even trying to make "rock" music? It's just so, so odd...

    • @ibornslippy
      @ibornslippy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      literally she just chills at home with her dog there was no need for her to be catching strays like this 😭😭

  • @jenanacremepie
    @jenanacremepie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +650

    Slighting Fiona Apple should instantly disqualify you as a Grammys voter ngl

    • @rurubelle2920
      @rurubelle2920 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Was thinking the same thing.The total lack of taste jumped out with that one statement about boygenius and Fiona. Like, how are you a voter in the music industry's biggest award show with that take?

    • @stefanrw
      @stefanrw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Literally x

    • @8bitdiedie
      @8bitdiedie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fantano fans when people have their own subjective takes and don’t act like a hive-mind:

    • @lemmmakestunes8312
      @lemmmakestunes8312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@8bitdiedie I'm not a huge fiona apple fan, but the commenter is right, this is a weird ass take

    • @Jack-hi1hq
      @Jack-hi1hq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@8bitdiedieyou just don’t get it

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +587

    She gets no awards but the people who named her as an influence (Billie, Olivia, Taylor) do?

    • @RANIAxxx777
      @RANIAxxx777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How is that their problems lmao

    • @danielapardo9776
      @danielapardo9776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      ​@@RANIAxxx777 It definitely is the Grammy's problem. It is hypocritical to say the least.

    • @lemmmakestunes8312
      @lemmmakestunes8312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@RANIAxxx777 it's not. that's not their point lmao

    • @RANIAxxx777
      @RANIAxxx777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danielapardo9776 ok but what billie and Olivia and Taylor have to do with it y’all needs job

    • @danielapardo9776
      @danielapardo9776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      @@RANIAxxx777 you need to work in your reading comprehension. OC is just pointing out something ironic about the grammys. Or is it bad to say that they were influenced by her? It's not, it's a good thing. Stop taking these things so personally, and, funny thing, is not even personal because it's about other people who I suppose you are a stan of.

  • @arielpearson4819
    @arielpearson4819 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +797

    I have a theory about the Grammys: I think that they only let senior members vote on the big categories, while voters who may be more informed about modern music tastes are relegated to the smaller categories. The old fart who wrote that is probably still mad that Bjork wore a swan dress to the Oscars.

    • @hausoflaboratories
      @hausoflaboratories 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Omg I'm chuckle at this 😂

    • @SoundsOfTheWild3
      @SoundsOfTheWild3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Everybody votes in the general categories so it makes sense that pop music tends to dominate in those categories. By design its supposed to be broad appealing. That is why a lot of times when rock, country, or hip-hop when AOTY they tend to be very poppy versions. Something that is not as poppy is at a disadvantage to win AOTY even if it is popular in its own genre. The only exception to this is sometimes Jazz musicians like Jon Batiste, and Herbie Hancock will win. That is because there is over 90 something categories and nearly half of them comprise of "Fine Art School" genres of music like classical, orchestral, jazz, etc. Thus, those people make up a massive voting block within the Grammys voter base, and can get their own some wins despite not being mainstream. Rock, Country, and Hip-hop do not have enough categories, and people voting for them to pull that off.

    • @stefanrw
      @stefanrw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Hahahaha still livid about the swan dress - I actually think that dress was really cool (but that's beside the point) x

    • @igorgama590
      @igorgama590 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think it's the opposite: Seeing Taylor, Adele and Billie winning everytime their nominated, pop acts, with a younger appeal (except for Adele, although she's got the unanimous popularity), it feels like there too much lightheaded youngsters voting. A problem different to the Oscars that had too much conservative seniors on their board. Just a feeling though.

    • @gia42472
      @gia42472 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As a minor book critic, I can guess that most critics don't passionately read/listen/watch all the stuff submitted to them. They skip over lines and scenes. Thats why underground artists don't win. It's a work load or assignments you've to submit ASAP. Even fantano said in this video, that it's a matter if they actually listen to the full album.

  • @aR0ttenBANANA
    @aR0ttenBANANA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +591

    We already knew this shit was weird but I definitely did not expect it to be this weird. Totally explains how Kendrick keeps losing record of the year

    • @SoundsOfTheWild3
      @SoundsOfTheWild3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Everybody votes in the general categories so it makes sense that pop music tends to dominate in those categories. By design, top 40 pop music is supposed to be broad appealing. That is why a lot of times when other genres like rock, country, or hip-hop when AOTY they tend to be very pop adjacent. Kendrick is not that poppy even if he is popular in rap. The only exception to this is sometimes Jazz musicians like Jon Batiste, and Herbie Hancock will win. That is because there is over 90 something categories and nearly half of them comprise of "Fine Art School" genres of music like classical, orchestral, jazz, etc. Thus, those people make up a massive voting block within the Grammys voter base, and can get their own some wins despite not being mainstream. The other genres do not have enough categories, and people voting for them to get their less mainstream artist wins in a frequent capacity.
      I look at it like statistics. A hip-hop person might not really care for Country, and vice versa, but they are likely to be okay with pop music, given its broad appeal. Thus, in years where there is no record from their own genre they will probably pick a pop record. Also, keep in mind the Grammys have a lot of non-mainstream categories and those people might not be super knowledgeable about hip-hop or country but they probably know who Taylor Swift is.

    • @Drkbardockssj
      @Drkbardockssj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SoundsOfTheWild3I always say this. Voters are voting across a lot of categories.

    • @ayamurayama3961
      @ayamurayama3961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Drkbardockssjthe problem with the fans they wanna argue so bad their favorite artists hasn’t won the Grammy because they only choose popular albums yet Killer Mike won out of Drake and Travis. Two big artists.

    • @BussinandDiscussin
      @BussinandDiscussin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can read it now "I want the album of the year to be you know, actually musical?" or some crap

    • @Suzanne4415
      @Suzanne4415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I sincerely do not understand why people keep treating Grammies like they're a relevant measure of music quality. Decade after decade of watching people get riled up over this shit... is kinda enraging me, ironically ig. I mean I remember kinda sympathizing when Kanye ran up the first time, but dear god that was like 2 decades ago.

  • @housekinokuni903
    @housekinokuni903 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +666

    Lana spilled her guts in this album, talking about her abusive mother, SA, Su1cide, death of family members and choosing to find beauty and fun in this depressing life but grammy voters totally ignore that to focus on her live performance more than a decade ago. It's honestly disrespectful.
    It would've been better if SoS, Guts or the record won instead of Midnights where a billionaire cosplays as a sad girl uwu.

    • @stefanrw
      @stefanrw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      Yeah I think Lana should've won but I would have been happy to see SZA win and 'Guts' is a a pretty solid album. 'Midnights' is frankly embarrassingly bad, except for 'Lavender Haze' which is somewhere between 'fine' and 'good'. Taylor Swift seems to be in this position where all the praise she gets (from the TIME person of the year award to the insanely positive reviews she receives for just rerecording her old albums) just gets compounded to such a point where she's lavished with more and more praise. It's utterly bizarre because it doesn't seem to bear any relation to the quality of her specific releases. Like 'Folklore' is genuinely good (in my opinion) so fair enough it got the positive responses and awards it did. That doesn't mean that whatever follows it (and 'Evermore') should immediately be considered great too?? It's just insane that a category that's literally called 'Album of the Year' has almost nothing to do with the contents of the albums in that category?? They're basically still judging Lana on her 'Born To Die' era (which I have a lot of time for personally) - but that was 12 years ago at this point? So baffling x

    • @pan6529
      @pan6529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@stefanrw holy shit 2012 is 12 years ago?!

    • @Colpmn22
      @Colpmn22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      You know that you can say SOS or the Lana album deserve the AOTY and / or acknowledge that Midnights isn't as good as those without that last line, right?

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      1. You can be rich and sad.
      2. Midnight is not a sad album

    • @homaisen1585
      @homaisen1585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Bruh…. Everyone’s been talking about SOS as an album and how much it deserves AOTY. If I haven’t had listened to the album, I’d really fall for such praise. SOS has great singles but as an album, it obviously lacks unity and is badly too lengthy. BoyGenius, GUTS and There’s a Tunnel are the real ones deserving AOTY.

  • @ellegauci4073
    @ellegauci4073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +583

    Abel was so smart to pull his music from being considered.

    • @hausoflaboratories
      @hausoflaboratories 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      Yeah that decision aging good asf

    • @pan6529
      @pan6529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The grammys are racist and sexist weve been knowing

    • @bellami9605
      @bellami9605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he was ahead of his time! i hope lana follows in his footsteps like drake did and never submit again! eventually i wish other artists who keep getting snubbed or even those artists who get grammys for minor categories but dont have a big category grammy (ahem BEYONCE) denounce them directly and dont submit at all. fuck them anti art racist oldheads

    • @user-qn2ey6gk4m
      @user-qn2ey6gk4m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can do that?

    • @ellegauci4073
      @ellegauci4073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@user-qn2ey6gk4m Yeah. An artist can request to have their music not considered for nomination. That is what The Weeknd did

  • @jacobreeve5169
    @jacobreeve5169 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +404

    This guy definitely voted for Macklemore in 2014 for Album Of the Year

    • @nephilim8577
      @nephilim8577 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      "And we hate po-po want to shoot us dead in the street for sure" is a disgusting thug line made by a violent gangster and should not glorified by the Grammy's
      - This guy, probably

    • @jaykay1899
      @jaykay1899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Okay that album was actually great tho watch your mouth

  • @jacobmajerczak7578
    @jacobmajerczak7578 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +717

    i’m surprised more people aren’t more up in arms about this person referring to kill bill as “degeneracy” and “violent” before saying they only listened to sos once, then saying that doja cat adds “class” to a normal rap song. real a class committee they got here. how this level of clear cut racism and disdain for black art can be allowed to remain on the grammy committee is ridiculous.

    • @burnt.norton
      @burnt.norton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      exactly like how stupid and miserable must one be to think contemporary automatically equals “degeneracy”??

    • @berkeleyisonline160
      @berkeleyisonline160 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      kill bill is a song abt murder, but it's really not that violent. it's not like there's any gory imagery in the lyrics like "kim" by eminem for example. it's clearly just conservative racism talking.

    • @pointlessfeature
      @pointlessfeature 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she adds so much class tho, have you heard that one song where she wants a guy to rail her?

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      lol, I actually quite like Doja Cat, but classy she is not 😂

    • @traplover6357
      @traplover6357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Eminem made more controversial songs TWENTY YEARS AGO, but I'm sure this reviewer is motivated in another insidious way.

  • @PatrickHogan
    @PatrickHogan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Lana’s worst album is better than Taylor’s best album.

    • @torstenatterberg5788
      @torstenatterberg5788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think folklore > lust for life actually

    • @J7nty
      @J7nty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@torstenatterberg5788lust for life lyrically conceptually is miles better than folklore it’s almost as if folklore is heavily inspired by Lanas writing and it’s produced by Antonoff aswell like all of lanas last 4 albums

    • @melg6834
      @melg6834 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THIS !!! 🎯

  • @girlmonster00
    @girlmonster00 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    damn fiona apple catching strays for no reason

    • @PinkDesertEagle
      @PinkDesertEagle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It made me so mad!

  • @Robyn-r9s
    @Robyn-r9s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +246

    Last year, one anonymous voter said they weren't voting for Beyonce for AOTY because she'd already won so many Grammys, and another didn't like that Beyonce was supposed to be a big deal. Whereas this guy pretty much voted for Taylor for those exact reasons. (No shade on any nominated artists, the voting system is the bad thing)

    • @sebastiaanv
      @sebastiaanv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yeah there seems to be no structure at all

    • @jeremyc9593
      @jeremyc9593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've also never seen why Beyonce is a big deal, but to not vote for someone because they've won so many times is beyond stupid

    • @np-gi6vz
      @np-gi6vz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think the general categories are a mess sometimes lol. Beyonce usually wins the rnb categories so I'm not sure why that disqualifies her from the bigger cross genre awards lol. Even though..her recent records are not really rnb like how SZA or Victoria Monet's records were. She's been kind of traversing and studying different genres I feel.

  • @ja3377
    @ja3377 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    This has the same energy as that one Academy Awards voter who said that they don't watch any of the nominees in the Best Animated Feature category and instead goes with whatever their kid likes (i.e. Disney or Pixar).
    Who in God's name decided to let these people become Academy voters if they're not even going to attempt to engage with the art?

    • @supermarx
      @supermarx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There's probably a case that when there's like a highly prestigious industry award the people voting should be people in that segment of the industry, rather than everyone who can vote.

    • @Xsksnssjccxghb
      @Xsksnssjccxghb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well said

  • @yoncedelrey
    @yoncedelrey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

    when she didn't get a grammy honeymoon i knew they hated her. that's such a perfect record to me.

    • @gclip9883
      @gclip9883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Honeymoon had tough competition and didn't recieve massive acclaim by critics. NFR on the other hand was not only praised by critics and users alike, it was also the best album out of all of the nominees by a good margin. Now THAT is a tragedy.

    • @yoncedelrey
      @yoncedelrey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@gclip9883 the thing is honeymoon did have acclaim just not the longevity/sales & it's not like they're always about massive acclaim if u look at many winners lol. but honeymoon should've won a grammy period, not matter what category! it hits all marks for a great record.

    • @Julian.Romero13
      @Julian.Romero13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I think both are perfect records, but the other person is right. For honeymoon the competition was tough. While in 2020 the obvious and only good option was NFR.
      Ariana did a good one, but it should've won best pop vocal album, while Billie got already 5 grammys so AOTY was too much. Bon Iver had I,I, and I LOVE Bon Iver but I,I is probably his worst record so idc. NFR not winning AOTY was such a robbery ​@@yoncedelrey

    • @JesusGomez-ob2qt
      @JesusGomez-ob2qt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Honeymoon is easily Lana's best album. Really perfected the formula she created with btd and ultraviolence, it's the quintessential "lana del rey expirience"

    • @yoncedelrey
      @yoncedelrey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JesusGomez-ob2qt yes babe say that!!! her magnum opus! and ofc i know nfr deserved too, i was just implying after they didn't award honeymoon i knew they would always snub her.

  • @josephmanning3179
    @josephmanning3179 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Honestly after a highway robbery of NFR i'm not suprised

    • @PinkDesertEagle
      @PinkDesertEagle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's disgusting!

    • @Ulises_Miranda
      @Ulises_Miranda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      NFR was one of the best albums of our time and they STILL F ed up. So infuriating.

    • @ceciliaatie4249
      @ceciliaatie4249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      although that sucked, NFR losing didn’t left that sour taste bc WWFAWDWG is a fun and innovative album, midnights it’s mid, and they’re straight up awful songs in it.

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    Lana deserved to win at least one Grammy.

    • @pkmff4071
      @pkmff4071 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Lana deserves one for every releashed and unreleashed song she have.

  • @blackforest825
    @blackforest825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    I'm so glad that this guy, who haaaated Lana with a capital H when she first appeared, has grown into a stan. If anyone's deserved that 180, it's Lana. She's constantly been getting better and better with each record, and to go from the Born to Die Fantano review to Ocean Boulevard Fantanto review couldn't be more satisfying.

    • @redsunflowers7322
      @redsunflowers7322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She really has had a great redemption arc.

  • @MrKrk221988
    @MrKrk221988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    We need to stop giving the Grammys any attention. Back in the 90s and 00s, the MTV Music Video Awards were the most talked about music awards show. Now, barely anyone even knows it still exists. That's what needs to happen with the Grammys.

  • @alejotinganell5653
    @alejotinganell5653 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    Derading new Lana, boygenious and Fionna Apple consecutively without rhyme or reason aside from some bland flimsy excuses to justify lack of interest on listening to artist's actual repertoire is really embarassing

    • @weewooweewoo906
      @weewooweewoo906 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he needs to be fired, he clearly can't accurately pick good music with his head so up his own ass

  • @siddharthnaagar7028
    @siddharthnaagar7028 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Lana is a Musical genius whose work is too radical, gr8 and important to be recognised by something as corrupt and basic taste as grammys

  • @paultapping9510
    @paultapping9510 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    jeez, "Foo Fighters should be the face of rock" is a very middle-aged perspective. And I should know.

    • @BussinandDiscussin
      @BussinandDiscussin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Foo Fighters... should be a face of rock like I think people should be respecting them like Boomers respect say AC/DC or something. If young people would show respect to bands then we/they would be able to show bands to their grandkids instead of always desperately chasing any new thing that appears that year. /rant

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@BussinandDiscussin Don't get me wrong, I both personally enjoy, and deeply respect Foo Fighters music. Dave Grohl is a legend. HOWEVER they are also a band I have been listening to since I was 18 (I'm now 40) and who have been producing music for even longer. I feel like THE face of rock, as a prerequisite, needs to be a far more current, relevent, band. Both Springsteen and Foos are Hall of Famers, but with that comes a stepping back to make way for the next gen. Oh, okay, to phrase it another way, Rock is at it's core anti-establishment, not as much as punk obviously, but still, rebellion runs through the veins of Rock, and at this point Foo Fighters and even moreso Springsteen ARE The Establishment. But then again so are The Grammys!

    • @TedBilk
      @TedBilk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BussinandDiscussintf makes you think the foo fighters aren't legends to us

    • @jeremyc9593
      @jeremyc9593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm in this age group as well, and while I do like the Foo Fighters, they've always been generic af. For them to be considered the "face of rock" is sad, and who the hell decided Springsteen should even be considered?

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremyc9593 Same, also, face of rock should be given to ones pushing the art further, not staying within.

  • @Emp158
    @Emp158 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The Fiona apple diss was so uncalled for 😭😭😭 who has called her the face of rock music?

  • @princessq1729
    @princessq1729 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    Even the general public know that Taylor won AOTY just because of hype and that Midnights didn’t actually deserve it. The Grammys have traded their credibility for clicks.

  • @kokohanahana
    @kokohanahana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    grammy not being out of touch and corrupt challenge (impossible)

  • @Bowzer2025
    @Bowzer2025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    This is why we don’t even take it seriously anymore

  • @Spectoral_on_SPOTIFY
    @Spectoral_on_SPOTIFY 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Question: how do you become a voter for the Grammys and what is stopping Anthony Fantano from becoming one

    • @LuisGarzaHo
      @LuisGarzaHo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You have to pay a membership like it was Costco. That’s lame.

  • @tylerrock7219
    @tylerrock7219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    The Fiona Apple diss is truly the cherry on top of this Melon-baiting sundae 😔

  • @presidentsquidward3970
    @presidentsquidward3970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Grammy voter sounds like my local alt station audience.

    • @syntheticsilkwood2206
      @syntheticsilkwood2206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People in your local alt station are dissing fiona apple?

    • @presidentsquidward3970
      @presidentsquidward3970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boygenius specifically, the audience probably doesn't care about what Fiona does either. They're more into the new wave/90s alt stuff. It's more of that "if it's not loud, its not rock" stuff, even though I always viewed alternative radio more as a bit of a diverse style of sounds that are left of the dial, which I think is what killed it's relevancy outside of corporate control.@@syntheticsilkwood2206

    • @presidentsquidward3970
      @presidentsquidward3970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Also I say this as someone who loves the classics, I just happen to be a nerd for radio so I'm sad that the current state of alternative is just "welp, we're dead. just play the same classic hits for our old audience"

    • @presidentsquidward3970
      @presidentsquidward3970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      wtf i dont think my first comment posted.
      I said "I was referring to Boygenius but I'm sure they don't care for Fiona either, I think most of the audience is into new wave/90s stuff. Pretty much the "if it isn't loud, it's not rock"

    • @BussinandDiscussin
      @BussinandDiscussin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude boygenius isn't this bulletproof project everyone is saying it is. First off its a supergroup and I thought those were stupid and lame oh until a few ladies did it and second they made good music but nobody will remember it in 5 years lets be real.

  • @JDEdwards2331
    @JDEdwards2331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Rap never stood a chance with this crowd.

  • @ajorsomething4935
    @ajorsomething4935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Honestly the idea that grammy voters are all just petty and don't care is actually really funny and I hope they all vote like that

    • @supermarx
      @supermarx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm boycotting the Grammys till the Shaggs win.

    • @ajorsomething4935
      @ajorsomething4935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@supermarx real as hell, best album ever

  • @warrenmacdonald3463
    @warrenmacdonald3463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    it's totally wild they snubbed her again, and shows she still remains a black sheep in the established industry despite her immense and ongoing cultural influence and popularity. I mean half the artists nominated for aoty this year directly cite her as an influence. but it really just further proves why grammys don't mean anything, if visionary artists like björk have no grammys in her whole career, it shows they're not really about artistry. also, it kind of fits with her brand to remain snubbed and makes the fans root for her even more, so it's probably a long term positive for her career lol. kind of want her to pull an Abel and not submit her work to them anymore. would like to see her return to snl though, her performances are so much better now than they were back then.

    • @dariapyzhova6457
      @dariapyzhova6457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Say what you will but I actually loved the performance. She just did her own thing and kind of showed that she is not another regular singer. She has an incredible voice and pours her soul into the things she does. That is my unpopular opinion 😂

  • @whyisthomyorke
    @whyisthomyorke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Lana was robbed!

  • @jordanmachuca6087
    @jordanmachuca6087 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Seeing shit like this makes it make more sense that 1989 won album of the year over TPAB

    • @berrie7098
      @berrie7098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      T H I S !!!!!!

  • @Supa_scoopa
    @Supa_scoopa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    That shot taken towards Fiona Apple is criminal… I’ll see myself out

  • @DoraRobertson
    @DoraRobertson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That SNL performance just made me sad. She had never been on TV before and suddenly she was performing on TV for a large audience. She was visibly nervous and that affected her vocal performance. People dogged on her so hard for no reason. I've heard her live vocals during other shows and she sounded great.

  • @vrryc221
    @vrryc221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    im a huge swiftie but im appalled how the grammys "seemingly" rushed Taylor Swift for that "Musical History" of winning 4 AOTYs.
    Like c'mon next year I'm sure they're on the same page again unless Lana won't submit her new country album

    • @chiarosuburekeni9325
      @chiarosuburekeni9325 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Go away

    • @suspiciousstar7547
      @suspiciousstar7547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Same here. I enjoyed Midnights but I think SZA or Lana should've won.

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I do think Taylor deserved to break the record, but it should’ve been for a truly deserving album like evermore, not Midnights

    • @suspiciousstar7547
      @suspiciousstar7547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@erikdaniels0n Agreed.

    • @Dottor_J
      @Dottor_J 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Bit of a fraudolent record too since only Folklore really deserved AOTY. Midnights in particular was average

  • @AlexHider
    @AlexHider 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    At this point, not winning any Grammies for Lana is a badge of honor. They never understood her appeal and why would they start now

  • @Swamp_Palace
    @Swamp_Palace 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    One of my teachers at Berklee was a Grammy voter back in the mid 2000’s, and he told us that the other voters would often not listen to the work they were voting for, and just vote for whoever was most popular. Basically saying, if they weren’t familiar with an artist’s stuff, or hadn’t heard of them, they wouldn’t get a vote. The Grammys are a joke.

  • @xsk12
    @xsk12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    this is like the animation category in the oscars where they just vote for what their grandkids like

  • @blicky888
    @blicky888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    petition to make anthony team up with the online music community and create his own grammys that actually makes sense and means something

  • @erikdaniels0n
    @erikdaniels0n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I adore Taylor Swift, but him basically admitting that they gsve AOTY to her because of how ubiquitous she was in 2023 and not because of the music is really telling. I agree she deserved to break the AOTY record, but she deserved to do it with a better album like evermore. Back to back wins for folklore and evermore, widely regarded as her best (and let’s be real here, Grammy baiting) albums would’ve been genuinely iconic

    • @MikelleG
      @MikelleG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Facts. Fearless, 1989 and folklore are some great albums and did deserve praise. Midnights as Aoty really cheapens her career in my eyes. I genuinely believe she bought her grammy. Something fishy went on. and im a swiftie

    • @meredithgr
      @meredithgr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ⁠@@MikelleG fellow swiftie and i 100% agree. fearless, 1989, and folklore were real creative milestones for her and deserved the recognition. midnights is just not on that level

    • @MikelleG
      @MikelleG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@meredithgr right. I dont think she necessarily like paid for the grammy, but she definitely was handed it due to her popularity.

    • @berrie7098
      @berrie7098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i think fearless was the best album that year. 1989....no. it was insanely popular and a milestone for taylor but these awards have to consider all artists not just taylor's journey and popularity. kendrick made a better album and it being snubbed just shows the grammys have been more of a popularity contest that awarding artists challenging themselves and pushing the envelope. while 1989 was full pop half her discography prior could be pop if you remove the banjo licks. heck most of the singles from red WERE pop songs. we need to view these awards outside of the taylor swift universe

    • @berrie7098
      @berrie7098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that said folklore 100000% deserved. i don't think evermore did anything different than folklore though. taylor herself called it a sister record. i think john batiste winning was a wildcard and another artist did more than year!

  • @rafaelocandof
    @rafaelocandof 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Grammy voters are literally just grammy winners from the past, so it's not like there's an academy like the Oscars actually considering what's best, it's essentially just what's more popular or well-liked within the Grammy-winning music community. It's not uncommon for them to have bad takes.

    • @Santiago-in1xf
      @Santiago-in1xf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it's due paying folks($1200 per year) who have worked on at least 6 commercially released tracks who can become a regular member AND have been endorsed by two voting members...the second excludes a lot of people even if they clear the first bar. The Oscars do actually admit past winners if you are not invited to join.

  • @indeboss
    @indeboss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Receiving a response like this should honestly be enough reason for terminating their committee participation. No substance, no reasoning, and apparently no time to even check the nominees' music.

  • @OfficialDarkSoulMusic
    @OfficialDarkSoulMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Its okay guys, even though my wife got snubbed for AOTY, she was still Pretty When She Cried

  • @hippiecheezburger5457
    @hippiecheezburger5457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think the Grammys are just based on popularity not artistic merit. I mean Taylor Swift beat Kendrick Lamar before for album of the year when to pimp a butterfly is absolutely one of thee great albums

    • @salmanaseriddin4649
      @salmanaseriddin4649 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If it was based on popularity then why did killer mike won against Travis scott. I THINK THEY ONLY CHOOSE WHO THEY HATE LESS🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

  • @maxxvii2037
    @maxxvii2037 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That random Fiona Apple jab 💀💀💀

  • @wadekemmsies7180
    @wadekemmsies7180 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I like Lana more than Taylor but I guess that's just me

    • @Julian.Romero13
      @Julian.Romero13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Nah, I'm such a big swiftie but I'm with you. Even though I enjoy Taylor's music, I've always considered Lana a better ARTIST, and she deserved some award for Ocean Blvd, NFR, Honeymoon...

  • @bubbles2215
    @bubbles2215 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    People like this man are not the people who need to be voting for who wins these awards.

  • @vlad-igor
    @vlad-igor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Lana is hated by Grammy's, thts y.😢

  • @GoncalvesRafaelLima
    @GoncalvesRafaelLima 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Lana is the most influential artist of our generation don’t @ me cause time will prove me right

  • @RachelFlowersMusic
    @RachelFlowersMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the video. I also felt sad about the jazz vocal albums that won. Nicole Zuraitis’ had the most unlistenable mix, and I find her songwriting, singing and piano playing white washed and watered down. As a jazz fanatic, Esperanza Spulding’s live with pianist Fred Hersh has all the trade marks of jazz. Then the first “alternative jazz” album went to Meshell Ndegeocello? She’s a soul artist. The grammys are bizarre.

  • @equusquaggaquagga536
    @equusquaggaquagga536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Milli Vanillia also have a Grammy
    Clearly we should not take it serious

  • @kilianmcgaffin2473
    @kilianmcgaffin2473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Not the triggered Kanye fans in this vid's comment section literally proving anthony's point about reviewing vultures...

  • @bc4347
    @bc4347 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Waiting on Angel olsen to catch a grammy

  • @Jay41
    @Jay41 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh hell no! No one disrespects Fiona Apple!

  • @chillepalmerz
    @chillepalmerz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I liked Lana's SNL performance.

  • @diegolopezzz18
    @diegolopezzz18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bad performances are something that every musician no matter how talented, hard working, or popular, has to deal with.
    There are Grammy winning artists who have absolutely binned it during a live performance

  • @reedliu8989
    @reedliu8989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Grammy is just bad by all means. I totally believe most of the voters never listen to any of the nominated music, just vote for fame or popularity. They should really learn from Oscar or some strict movie awards. Those guys seldom award the movie just for popularity. Instead, the movies with more aesthetic would more likely win the game.

  • @rozorahk
    @rozorahk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tunnels is on a whole new level. I’ve always been a fan of Lana but this album was so much more mature and lush. It’s like walking along the seaside during a sunset.

  • @painteater
    @painteater 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i don't forgive you for the ultraviolence review

  • @raven_g6667
    @raven_g6667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    **Lana Del Rey, Lana Del Rey**

    • @Checkman282
      @Checkman282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That Sephora still hasn't financially recovered.

  • @PinkDesertEagle
    @PinkDesertEagle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lana del Rey was disgustingly robbed. The biggest snub in music history!

  • @CommanderNewton
    @CommanderNewton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bruce Springsteen rock and roll? What year is it?

  • @matclark.
    @matclark. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think they should call it the Scammys. Lol

  • @pop_culturist
    @pop_culturist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as much as she deserves it, i think lana not having any grammy's is a reflection of how the media has treated her over the years

  • @EMOTIONBIGLIFE
    @EMOTIONBIGLIFE 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lana won our hearts❤

  • @machinegirl03
    @machinegirl03 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Him randomly calling fiona apple's music dull honestly makes the whole thing sound like ragebait

  • @_azurejake
    @_azurejake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I think Fantano should do his own annual awards it'd be good content even if we don't agree.

  • @tannerbranch1035
    @tannerbranch1035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Video palette cleanser on deck

  • @Amanboy2012
    @Amanboy2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I swear, the Grammy committee must meet on a constant basis and ask: “How can we get people to hate us THIS week?”

  • @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic
    @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lana gained a lot of respect out of me for this record, it truly is a shame that she didn't win. Frankly, I was surprised to hear someone so mainstream make an album as intimate, intelligent, and natural-sounding as Ocean Blvrd (and I know there's a hint of "mainstream bad, underground good 😤" in that statement, but I've been listening to mostly metal for 7+ years, I'm still trying to denounce the elitism). Especially considering her competition in some of these categories, LDR should've at least walked home with one.
    Also, I'm extra mad at this voter for taking unnecessary shots at Fiona Apple.

  • @joesalmon5535
    @joesalmon5535 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The grammy's will always be a popularity contest because you have to be somewhat well known enough to be nominated in the first place, their should be a category where numerous people in the industry nominate 5 albums which got under a certain amount of streams, and the five albums with the most nominations, will be the 5 actual nominations, and then they can vote on those albums. Also they should do a listening party to make sure each voter is qualified to give their opinion.

  • @cheesecakelasagna
    @cheesecakelasagna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As much as I love me some Springsteen and Foo Fighters, face of rock titles should be given to ones pushing the art further, not staying within. So of course, it's gonna change faces in time.

  • @sof1314
    @sof1314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i came to this video for answers and now im just even more fucking angry with those grammy losers also wtf does fiona apple has to do with it leave her alone

  • @duke86fan
    @duke86fan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tbh this guy talks about how he hates how boygenius and Fionna Apple aren't making the same music as Springsteen I think the dude is just a sexist boomer
    So basically a grammy voter

  • @kellybrincks
    @kellybrincks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why I stopped watching the Grammys in 1996. Garbage people behind the scenes. And don't get me started on the R'n'R Hall of Fame.

  • @chaeriplease
    @chaeriplease 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not grammys lana del rey snubberino forever 😭 shaaady

  • @mewgiah8057
    @mewgiah8057 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imagine judging someone over an SNL performance. You know an institution which is infamously known for having awful sound mixing.
    Lana isn’t the only artist to have a bad show there. Some of the best have struggled on that stage because they can’t hear themselves singing. It’s truly awful mixing.

  • @nikguimont8546
    @nikguimont8546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s like a dad trying to talk current music when they only listen to classic rock and jazz

  • @jordanmachuca6087
    @jordanmachuca6087 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude said easiest vote of the main categories: Jelly Roll 😂😂😂

  • @Scraps-nt6xy
    @Scraps-nt6xy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s so funny to see how many people try to bury their misogynistic views and act like they’re not. Like honestly so many people coming out of the woodwork to say boygenius didn’t deserve all the awards; biygenius is literally the best supergroup since probably the 80s and their album was perfection. If you don’t like it, it isn’t because you’re somehow better or smarter; it’s because you f****** hate women

  • @NoFate97
    @NoFate97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her lack of nomination for Pop Vocal Album is still baffling to me, I think she should have been nom’d over Ed Sheeran and won over TS. If AOTY is going to be so random/political, fine and I’m sure most artists have accepted that, but there are plenty of categories to be serious about.

  • @cartilagehead6326
    @cartilagehead6326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    music fans have been talking about disregarding the grammys and “the grammys don’t matter”, etc since the early 90s. I think people, especially journalists and critics, should make more of an effort to explicitly do so and to more clearly sideline these awards. One would think that after almost 40 years of the grammys actively disrespecting and misrepresenting hip hop and rap (Arrested Development, Macklemore, etc) and failing to properly represent the trajectory of that genre that audiences and industry watchers would have more conclusively written them off by now. Like you can’t look at the relationship between the grammys and hip hop, arguably the most important/influential genre in its era, and not see the wheels of white supremacy actively turning and insisting on remaining relevant.

  • @artaaangels
    @artaaangels 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The commentary about Kill Bill is truly nuts. The Beatles have a song with similar themes but I'm sure that guy doesn't have issues with that (I wonder why?)

    • @Vesuviusisking
      @Vesuviusisking หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the Beatles are one of the best bands

  • @midniteauthor
    @midniteauthor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Uses the term “degeneracy” also says he doesn’t usually “like that kind of music” but she brought “class”
    The dog be whistling.

  • @thebooknitter
    @thebooknitter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being a Lana fan not a Taylor one I was disappointed but not surprised 😯

  • @normalizenatalie
    @normalizenatalie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i havent been so enraged by a non-political article in years lol

  • @Enterstainers
    @Enterstainers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine hating on Fiona Apple and preferring Bruce Springsteen. What kind of pathetic representation of the zeitgeist is that?

  • @jonfavreauVEVO
    @jonfavreauVEVO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    grammys cementing its spot as the least worthy outlet for anything even remotely awards-related

  • @sabrinacamargo25
    @sabrinacamargo25 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i fucking love lana

  • @arcsballss
    @arcsballss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the thing that i HATE about this guy is how he criticizes sza

  • @daveteves
    @daveteves 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who tf is thie guy? He needs to be publically shamed.

  • @Mighty_Atheismo
    @Mighty_Atheismo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    All the Kanye Kult Kids need to take note of melon's Lana takes. Literally everything he says he should do for new kanye, he shows he can do for Lana. The reasons why he treats the two differently are worth pondering.

    • @OfficialTomsSkujinsFanClub
      @OfficialTomsSkujinsFanClub 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      of course you try to find a way to make this about kanye

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OfficialTomsSkujinsFanClub they've had very similar issues

  • @lorriechristian7164
    @lorriechristian7164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    If they mentioned Lana calling out mostly black women artists when claiming she wanted to portray herself as more modest than them in comparison, then I wouldn't have objected to anything.

    • @chazcmeekins83
      @chazcmeekins83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could you elaborate on this? Too much musical artist drama has developed over the years too much for me honestly.

    • @babyboomertwerkteam5662
      @babyboomertwerkteam5662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Tea so old its growing mould

    • @babyboomertwerkteam5662
      @babyboomertwerkteam5662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      theres nothing to elaborate on. woke losers gonna woke lol @@chazcmeekins83

    • @godzdead
      @godzdead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      it wasn't about her being modest, she was always quite explicit in her lyrics. it was about her portraying herself as more submissive than modern pop female figures

    • @pan6529
      @pan6529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lana has been giving me “white feminist” vibes for a while so i’m not surprised

  • @asdf072xxp
    @asdf072xxp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lana should have gotten signed to Blue Note. She would have won everything.

  • @HushHushHushim
    @HushHushHushim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what can be done to change Grammy voters?