Fujifilm XH2 or XH2S for video. Is the XH2S really better?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2023
- Today I'm comparing the Fujifilm XH2 with the XH2S and I'm giving you my opinion as a videographer which camera is the better option for video shooters. I must say the 8K and the 4K HQ options on the XH2 are fantastic but overall I HAVE to give the win to the XH2S due to it's stacked APSC sensor technology and FAR superior sensor readout speeds allowing the camera to take 14bit sensor readouts at 4K 30p and 24p. This allows the XH2S to operate at a higher dynamic range which is noticeable especially when color grading. This ALONE for me was easily worth the additional $500. Beyond this one thing I did not mention is even Fujifilm themselves said the XH2S has a better video AF algorithm but to me personally I would say it is marginally better compared to the XH2. These are both incredible cameras but if I had to pick one for video work the XH2S is going in the bag with me!
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I do appreciate the honesty in your talk, best regards from Egypt
Thank you so much!
Great review, Adnan! Love it!
Thank you so much !
As someone that's just getting into video, this was a great, and very informative, video. Thanks bud.
Glad it helped you 👍🏻
Amazing video 👏👏👏
Great video. I love my X-H2s.
THE camera to beat in 2023 in my opinion
Yeeeeeees the X-H2s is a joy to use. Would enjoy seeing some examples in your videos, personal work, what your use-case is, and which lense you love. 🤓
For sure! I work with resorts and restaurants so the footage I shoot belongs to them. You can see some of my work at avrvmedia.com. I love using the 16-55mm the most and I also LOVE the 13mm f1.4 viltrox. The viltrox is crazy sharp and so useful. I will have more content coming soon including a trip to France in April.
By the way I have a small video I made with the xh2s when I was in Prague on my channel.
for video: dynamic range trumps sharpness, by a lot
I totally agree with this 100%
100% agree with you. I have used my 2s for doccies, commercials for telly and recently shot a car commercial with it here in SA and we had 42 degrees..and never even had a heat warning. Was sweating all over the gear and camera kept rolling. Since the new 3.0 update it can now play nicely with the top brands out there.
So awesome to hear this from a professional! I was debating wether or not to get the cooling fan but I’m thinking the thermals on this camera are super solid!
@@adnan_velic for sure :) There was a Canon that overheated there, but to be fair it was incredibly hot. The H2s was shooting 10 bit 4:2:2 in Slog 2 at 4K 120 and normal frames and I honestly thought it would give a warning. Carried on. We did also cover the camera during off times and try to keep it cool. Its just such a solid shooting box, and once its graded in the right hands, it's honestly such a pretty picture that you would only expect out of a high end camera. Next big shoot I do would be with cine glass and a wireless focus puller.
@@bccreativeproductions9767 that sounds so awesome! I’m glad you’re having great success with this camera.
Hi Adnan, Great Comparison. Somehow all the Stuff i find on TH-cam from the XH2S has that typical desaturated Fuji Look. I would love to See a clear Blue Sky as well as some high key skin tones.
I’ll be uploading a lot more footage from the camera so please stay tuned.
Just curious. What do you use to clean up noise in post? Also, how often do you feel the need to with this camera?
Hey! I do all my editing in davinci resolve. I just use a very light denoise in low light situations where I have to crank up the ISO. Really the way this camera operates the absolute BEST is when you have in body denoise completely off and you always do your denoise in post. This is what RAW cameras like ARRI and RED do since raw footage doesn’t have any noise reduction applied to it.
Hey Adnan, The Xh2S has a lot of options for recording. I mostly shoot 4k 60, should I purchase a CF Express type B card or stick to my 300mbps cards? What codec do you recommend for editing on Davinci (Windows)?
Also thank you for the great video!
Hey!
I personally shoot everything on a 512gb angelbird type b card. It was super cheap and it can write the highest prores HQ the camera has to offer. I also feel like the type b cards are just way more robust than the sd cards. With that said most of the content I shoot is very simple 200mbps h265 4:2:2. I have shot in standard prores 4K but the file size wasn’t appealing to me for most of my work. Depending on how powerful your computer is you can edit h265 very easily in davinci. I have a m1 pro Mac laptop and it’s no problem in 1080p playback. I will say the prores will absolutely play back on any machine with no problem and it’s more durable when it comes to color grading and layering effects in your node tree. Hope that helps!
Isn't the whole thing with 4k on the xh2s that all the 4k is oversampled from the 6.2k sensor (except the 4k120) so there is no reason to delineate an "HQ mode", where as on the xh2 because the slower sensor they have to give you a line skipped mode (regular 4k) and an oversampled mode (HQ)? I have only used the xh2s. Curious if the larger oversampling on the xh2 is better
This is an awesome point! You’re right the xh2s 4K is downsampled from 6.2k. I think one way to see what’s going on here between the two is to see how much storage each of them require for let’s say h265 4:2:2 4K 30fps. If the xh2s requires more storage than indeed the 4K on the xh2 is line skipped. When I looked at other reviews that looks to be the case and the standard 4k on the xh2 is much softer than the 4k HQ when you pixel peep. All I can say is that the 4k hq is space hungry and it grades extremely well. When you say is it better I do not think it is over the xh2s because that extra stop of dynamic range is noticeable when you’re shooting in a high lit background like a subject at the beach.
hello adnan...very nice revieuw. thank you. were you using the cf express card when you got the rolling shutter effect with the h2?
I didn’t. Rolling shutter on the xh2 however is amazing it’s just the xh2s is a bit better but that’s understandable
Thanks Adnan. Im debating between the 2. if the rolling on the xh2 is not horrible i like the idea of shooting video to a 40 mp sensor. the image is soo beautiful and detailed. and ill be using fast cf express cards @@adnan_velic
@@TheNomadRides you’ll be happy with both. For me personally for video specifically the xh2s is the way to go. The fact that it can shoot 6.2k at 3:2 is huge for social media work. It’s also less restricted like the 4k60p is full resolution using the full sensor. It also has one extra stop of dynamic range but still the xh2 is really special.
Very interesting video!! I have no experience with videography but decided to pick up the XH2s as a hybrid camera. Not sure if that was the best choice considering I primarily do still/street vs the XH2 or XT5 camera body. I know you compared both cameras for video but do you have an opinion regarding stills?
I like the xh2s better for stills personally. It’s overall a snappier camera with more dynamic range. The extra megapixels on the xh2 are nice but it’s not a dramatic difference like the number suggests.
Thanks!! For someone just delving into videography [knowing what you know] how would you suggest approaching work flow/learning curve?
@@adnan_velic do you still prefer the XH2s for still photography even with lower megapixels??
For the X-H2 having a 40MP sensor, does it result in lower quality 4K video if I use an older Fujifilm 16mm f1.4 lens that they say cannot resolve the 40MP sensor? With this lens, would I be better off using a X-T4 that only has a 26MP sensor?
Great question! I believe for video purposes the 16mm f1.4 will be enough to render the 4K image even though it’s downsampled from 8k. For photography however I’m not sure if that 16mm will render all of the 40mp. My guess is that it won’t be enough but it will be very close.
what lens are you using on this video with the H2S? I love the look of this video, is it a film simulation in the FUJI? the colors seem warm and movie like.
Thank you! This was the 16-55mm with a B+W variable ND filter. I was shooting in flog2 then I color graded with my lut plus some tweaks.
what frame rate do you shoot in? it almost looks like your video is jittery, not sure why it feels like it isn't synced right or something feels off.
4K 30fps with 1/60 shutter speed. The panning motion in the xh2 video looked jittery I do agree with you and that’s because of davinci resolve stabilization for what ever reason didn’t like the footage. No matter what I did and how much I adjusted the settings the stabilization caused the jitteriness when panning.
What lenses do you use for videos? I need to do product videos and what is your recommendation? Some close ups slow motion etc.
My go to is the 16-55mm f2.8 and I love the 13mm f1.4. If you want to get close up I heard the new tamron 17-70mm f2.8 does great with macro shots but I have never tested that.
Tamron 17-70 has focus breathing issues
Hi bro, would you say xh2s has more "cinematic look video" than the xh2 and xt5? Or it's also possible to achieve similar looks on those 2
Hey! Well the xh2s has the most dynamic range out of the x mount series. Usually the more dynamic range in video the more expensive the camera gets. Cinematic look is very subjective and it takes more than just the camera body the lens is way more important than the body. I will say you can get the “cinematic look video” from the xt5 and xh2 for sure just get some nice cine lenses and learn how to grade properly.
Pozdrav Adnane. Mene zanima koji je bolji za fotografiranje vjenčanja? Je li XH2s puno bolji u low lightu što se AF tiče? Hvala
Halo Miroslav. Nije puno bolji ali jeste AF bolji. Mogu reci da je oko 15-20% bolji.
Which lens would you recommend for cinematic : short films and such ? ☺️
So many great lenses my goodness! I think the 23mm f1.4 first gen is absolutely mind blowing good. You can also adapt some cine lenses with manual focus like what DZO makes. The 16-55mm f2.8 is also excellent all around but not ideal for extreme low light.
You sold me on the X2S!
I’m glad you got it! I love this camera.
Interesting video. Couple of notes.
The xh2s does have 4k pro res HQ up to 60fp. Not sure why you were saying it doesn't.
The xh2s has a more “organic” look than the 8k xh2 which is way more digital.
14 stops isn't the case in either cameras. More like 12.5 to 13 stops in the xh2s and The xh2 is a little less.
Also, videos like this you NEED a lot of broll to support your case. It does t help just having a talking head.
And on a 512gb cf express type b card 4k ProResHQ in 24fp will get you 1 hour and 20 mins of record time.
Hey! Thanks for commenting I watched some of your videos and they are great!
I looked at this video one more time and I see what you mean there with the 4K HQ thing. The 4K HQ is an exclusive feature which the xh2s does not have. This is not talking about 4k prores hq. 4K HQ in the xh2 Downsamples from 8k and preserves shadows better therefore giving it the best dynamic range possible.
You’re right the xh2s is more organic and I said in my video that the xh2s is definitely the way to go. Even with that said I love how the 4K HQ (non prores) option looks on the xh2.
You’re right about that if you keep internal noise reduction on in both cameras. If you turn noise reduction to -4 and denoise in post the image cleans up incredibly well. I don’t have a means of testing dynamic range but I do believe Gerald undone did a good job testing this. In his test he’s actually getting almost 15 stops of dynamic range with the xh2s and that’s the average DR not what the camera can see result.
I will definitely take your advice on the broll comment. I’ve only made a handful of videos and my goal is to improve with every video even if it’s 1% better.
@@adnan_velic Oh I see - 4k HQ - got it haha. I was really scratching my head on that one. Yeah, the whole DR range stuff can get a little muddy when doing a controlled stress test vs an actual use case. THere is a lot of information in the midtones in flog2 for sure. Man, often times I wish FujiFilm didn't put this stacked sensor in a hybrid body, its so limiting for productions ha.
keep up the good work! I use to live in Miami. Great city to make content.
@@CineDailies would be nice if they made a box like RED does and gave it all the ports!
@@adnan_velic it is true that the XH2S doesn’t have “4kHQ”, but it is oversampled in most modes from 6k, so you still have a ton of detail without it feeling overly digital.
man, U have the xh2s and the 16-55mm lens. I edit with davinci - full version. could you recommend good settings so that I get the least amount of noise in low light? every time I record in the house my daughter has all this noise on her face. I tried 10 bit - the same. tomorrow i'll try PRORES but I feel like it will be the same output. i'm going crazy.
Hey! for low light work I use fast lenses like F1.8 and f1.4. I would never use the 16-55mm during low light conditions unless I have lights. I would suggest you try something… shoot at 4K 30 at 1/60 shutter. Shoot at f2.8 and bring the iso to 5000. In davinci take the footage and use denoise. Set quality to enhanced and temporal noise to around 20. Your computer won’t play back the video smooth so keep the noise reduction off only turn it on when you’re ready to render. This will clean up all the noise 100%. You have to do this with full frame as well don’t let people tell you otherwise. I’ve had many full frame cameras to know the truth.
@@adnan_velic Big Mahalos (Thanks so much) for the reply. I don't have any f1.8 or f1.4 lenses at this time but I will invest soon. I will for sure try what you suggested for the 16-55. I appreciate this golden information.
@@ryanj3340 viltrox makes a super affordable 23mm f1.4. It’s a really nice start.
Hey man really appreciate the video! Covered exactly what I’ve been wondering about. I have a very specific question you might be able to help with- I’m primarily a stills photographer and shoot with a gfx 50sii. I love the camera, but doesn’t have great video. I’m planning to buy an Xh2s to pair with it and use for video only. I want to shoot the video in classic chrome film simulation so it matches my photos, and with the least amount of post editing as possible. The video is primarily for instagram, and will be 5-10 second clips. I want the video to have that clean, film look that you talked about. ….with all that said, which setting would you recommend for the Xh2s video, for least amount of post, straight to instagram?
Hey! I would definitely recommend shooting in the Eterna profile. It’s cinematic with less contrast and preserved highlights. Once you set your white balance you can determine exactly what hue you want to give the footage. The xh2s allows for a ton of customization in body including film grain and tone curves so you can take the footage straight to Instagram.
I shoot fhd 60fps flog on low light and getting a lot of terrible noise what would be my best setting?
Shoot in 4K 60fps and stay at 6400 ISO MAX! Make sure you turn off noise reduction in the camera settings. You will see noise but your editing software will take it out 100%. I use davinci resolve and the noise reduction absolutely loves fuji footage. Get a fast lens as well a f1.4 ideally.
Would you choose the Sony fx3 or the hs2s for documentary/vlog filmmaking great content
Never had a fx3 personally but I did own a a7iv which I was not impressed with. I hear great things about the fx3 but I personally wouldn’t trade my xh2s for it. I like the fact that the xh2s is a beast photography camera as well which the fx3 isn’t.
@@adnan_velic Thanks how is the low light? What lens would you recommend for vlog/Documentary work
@@MODESTYXO205 low light is really really good just have to turn the in body noise cancellation to -4. Other than that the iso range is usable all the way to 10000 with post noise reduction. I use a 13mm f1.4 from viltrox for vlogging is amazing.
how do you "clean up" your footage?
Hey! I use davinci resolve denoise.
Thank you for this video ! Thumbs up und Abo klickt 💪🏻 best wishes from Germany 😊
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Could someone confirm to me that there is no crop in 4k 60fps with the XH2S? because with the XH2 there is a crop... and it drives me crazy!!
I can confirm there is NO crop in 4K 60fps on the xh2s.
@@adnan_velicThank You So Much!!
I don't understand why the 4k hq would use more storage than 4k. If you film in h265 200mbps or 320mbps quality it is going to be the same, right? Or are you talking about prores codecs? prores 422 vs prores hq?
4k, 14-bit, 30p internally is perfect. bits is what you want for cinematic shots. 30p is what people will be looking at 88% of the time. the extra fluff around it can be 1080, nobody will notice.
how much data does it cost? I'm saving up for an Xh2s (and more storage). I already have a 32gb ram m1 max for editing. I prefer to shoot without a monitor, run and gun.
I see one for €2000 used from MBP with 6 month warranty. and of course new €2700 with 5 year warranty. Which would you (and other people here) pick?
With big players from Canon and Sony...Im curious why you went with Fujifilm?
That’s a great question. To be honest I started off with an 80D canon some years back. I then got an a6300 shortly after the a6400. Both of those cameras were good but then I got the xt3 and I fell in love. The image coming out of the fuji sensors is simply beautiful to me. Now with flog2 the dynamic range, and what can be done in post is something I’m very accustomed to.
The XH2S doesn’t have “4k HQ” but it’s still oversampled and super crispy!
Absolutely! It’s oversampled even at 4k60!. I definitely prefer the xh2s image but man that xh2 also produces a beautiful image. Super hard decision lol!
As a newbie can someone break this down? Lol.. I have a canon RP but I need a camera for video.
If you’re with canon and have all the glass why not trade the RP in and get yourself the new R8 that just got released today? It’s quite a bit better than the RP for video and it’s $1500 brand new.
Please show me results of vloging with h2
Hey! For sure I’ll get something like this made. I will tell you right now that I have tried it and it is MUCH better than the xt4 because the corners don’t wobble like they do on the xt4 especially using a wide lens like the viltrox 13mm.
What with Autofocus???
Its amazing! I would say 90% of Sony a7iv in video and sometimes 95% depending on lens.
If you usually take pictures and occasionally shoot video, go for xh2. On the other hand, xh2s.
Better yet xt5 👍🏻
I’m shooting the XT5 and XH2S. Killer combo.
ah men.... that ladybug....
you did that on purpose didn't ya :p
the evil on display here haha
nice vid. (8k is nonsense)
8:06 This is a joke: “The XH-2S has the best rolling shutter“ ….um ok I don’t want that then 😂 (once again I’m gonna say I am joking. This is a great video.)
I’m glad you like the video 😁😁👍🏻👍🏻
Sold my FF cameras after I got the X H2S. AF is almost as good and the images are ASTOUNDING.
Happy to hear this! What camera did you use prior to the xh2s? I had the a7iv and was absolutely NOT impressed by the image quality.
@@adnan_velic A7iv. Af was awesome. Images meh.
I would love to see some great 8k and 4khq footage from the X-H2. There really isnt much good stuff on YT.
Hey! Skip to minute 4:02 I have examples there for you to see.
@@adnan_velic Yeah I saw that but night footage doesnt really show the full potential I think. BTW, I understand you have both cameras, right? Wouldnt it make more sense to spend the money on something like the Nikon Z9 at that point?
@@nordfresse for me personally the z9 is not appealing as it is huge. I already have a good amount of glass that would make a transition tough. The z9 also has a bit less dynamic range and worse rolling shutter than the xh2s. Both of those are much more important to me than a full frame sensor.
@@adnan_velic Ok fair points.
Well there is Panasonic s5 ii...I like fuji color science ...but Panasonic is way over ...even better then Sony a7 r5 ... Fuji xh2s may be lovely ...but the kings in video are Sony and Panasonic for hybrid cameras ... And a Aps sensor has a crop ...full frame sensors are way better👍
The Panasonic is a great camera but I’ll stick with my xh2s. A lot of Hollywood movies are shot on s35 sensors and if it’s good for them it’s good for me 👍🏻
@@adnan_velic 👍
thx ! but pls you talk so slow :) so i need speed up the playback 1.5x when i wach this video :)
Only better if you do a lot of 4K60 and fast-paced filming, other than that 98.9% identical, actually IBIS is better on H2 and 240fps also... just sayin! 500$ you can save....
I don’t think you watched the entire comparison. The 4k30 is better, the 4k60 is better and of course you get 4k120. The stacked sensor alone is worth the extra $500 not to mention the better rolling shutter 6.2k open gate, and the extra stop of dynamic range. IBIS is the same from the testing I did and what fuji says. Because I have 4k120 I have not once used 1080 240.
If the image is spectacular maybe you should show us…
Check out my xh2s video with 50-100mm lens.
Actually, they are not identical. The XH2 has a slightly deeper grip.
Oh really? This is the first time I heard this. Now I have to check when I get home. To me they always felt the same when I was holding them. Thanks for letting me know about this.
My man…bit depth has NOTHING to do with dynamic range. Thats a very old myth that needs to die already….the 2 share numbers by coincidence, its nonsense. Sony shoots slog 2 8 biz with 12 stops no problem…will it get blotchy? Yes, but does it affect dynamic range? No.
You’re wrong… This information comes directly from fujifilm this isn’t something I made up. Never once have I said if you have 10bit you get 10 stops of dynamic range…. Or 12bit and 12 stops, etc… the number 14bit and the 14+ stops happen to coincide in this particular instance like you said. The xh2s is different compared to 95% of cameras on the market because the sensor DOES INDEED read at 14bit depth where most other cameras read data at 12bit depth. I know that bit depth means the amount of colors in a image this is not rocket science. What’s happening inside the camera is more complicated than that so I just condensed it into what I said. I’m not going to go into technical jargon where 99% of people do not care about that.
The fact that the camera switches to 14bit mode in body automatically at 30 FPS or less is a feature that is not present in 95% of consumer cameras. If you know of one please tell me because I have never seen it. Due to this 14bit switch the camera verifiably see 1 additional stop of dynamic range. I can also confirm this i the case when I personally shoot and color grade. Here’s a link from dpreview that explains this better.
m.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-h2s-review