Understanding Fujifilm X-H2S versus X-H2
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Michael explains the big and small differences between these two Fujifilm mirrorless cameras released 3 months apart from each other, both built on the same magnesium alloy body.
Recorded with Fujifilm X-T3 mirrorless camera and Fujinon XF56mmF1.2 R lens.
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Excellent presentation in a professional format. Thank you!
Nice explanation, thanks. It's interesting to note the finer points. I thought about going GFX, but I think I'm going to try to more fully use the X-H2 first to see what I can get out of it.
If the S had 40 mp it would have been perfect
That's really the only real difference, BUT 26 is still excellent! I absolutely chose the X-H2S.
Why ?
Is there any chance you guys could add the ability to map ISO to one of the command dials like the previous fuji cameras via firmware update? Being limited to Aperture and SS doesn’t make much since, given that all native lenses (as far as I know of) have aperture rings. I think the ISO button is a great addition, as long as our options aren’t taken away. That flexibility with the dials is more suitable for fast paced shooting in my opinion. My set up was Index on Front Dial (SS), Thumb on Back Dial (ISO), Left Hand under lens for Aperture - it was so intuitive and fluid as opposed to having to press a button then change the ISO on screen. Please make this possible again. The button is cool for when using a lens that has no aperture ring, but when using lenses that have aperture rings, it truly is a nuisance to be limited to Aperture and SS on the dials
I hope Fuji notices this serious error and fixes it via firmware. I didn't buy the H2S for this very reason!
I understand your thinking here, but I also understand theirs as well. With this body being targeted at sports/wildlife and action that involves using the camera with large lenses, where you'd generally have the strap connected to the lens, rather than the body. I don't know if you've experienced this yourself, but I absolutely prefer a 2 input control in those cases, because otherwise your settings may get changed simply from the body bumping and brushing against you as you move around, especially with wildlife when you're often hiking with the body hanging from the lens. Having 2 input controls had always been a stable of the pro level Canon and Nikon bodies since I've been doing this, and something that people have come to expect with that kind of camera. Having the option would still be nice, and I'm sure it's frustrating not to have it, but I feel like a lot of the target audience of this camera, myself included, would also be frustrated by not having 2 button confirmation for something like changing ISO. Also once it became an option in the generation of cameras that came out around 2007-8, if I were in a situation where I knew conditions could be changing and I'd quickly have to change ISO to keep my shutter speed high enough, I would set auto-ISO with an upper limit and a minimum shutter speed. I'd imagine that's what a lot of people in the target market of the X-H2S are also in the habit of doing for the last 15 years or so when it comes to "fast paced shooting", and with the level of high ISO performance available these days, there isn't much of a down side. Personally I'm just glad the ISO button is on the right side of the body so you don't need to move your left hand to press it, a lot of the first bodies to include dedicated ISO buttons had them on the left side of back side of the camera, an annoyance that followed me through three generations of Nikon bodies.
@@matthewcullen7106 as I said, having the button iso is fine. I actually like it. I’m not suggesting they get rid of it. All I said was that limiting iso to that function was not wise at all. They could’ve incorporated it without taking away from what you prefer. It is simply not suitable for fast paced shooting - having to press a button, look at the screen and click up/down several times til you’re at your desired iso is a nuisance at best. I don’t get how a wildlife shooter would find that useful, you could miss a key moment because you had to go through a 3 step process just to change your iso. The body has nothing to do with whether the camera is wildlife or not. They could have still kept the same customization of Iso from the previous cameras and it would still function as you would want… you just wouldn’t use it. But for those that seek to utilize the function (iso -> command dial), at least they’d have the option. That’s all I’m asking for, is the option to be able to do that. For portraiture, street, sports, etc… that is far more suitable.
Xh2 is not a wildlife camera by the way, regardless of it’s body. H2s maybe. But the H2 - This camera is more for filmmaking, portraiture, landscape, interior photography, stuff like that. I don’t think any wildlife or sports shooter will be using pixel shift or 8k raw 422
@@matthewcullen7106 everyone should have the possibility to choose how to set up their machine and Fuji has been appreciated for this possibility. Seems like a big oversight to me
@@Eyeofkamau I don't know if this comes from a place of ignorance, or whether you're being intentionally misleading. I wouldn't even bother replying normally, but I feel like misleading posts such as these do a disservice to other people in the community if they end up thinking the problem you've created is real and it turns them off to a product they might actually have no issue with. What you've done is created what's called a straw man argument. You've created a problem that doesn't exist, and made a case against it. This statement is just completely false and not a thing " having to press a button, look at the screen and click up/down several times til you’re at your desired iso is a nuisance at best. I don’t get how a wildlife shooter would find that useful, you could miss a key moment because you had to go through a 3 step process just to change your iso" Why are you looking at the screen? How does this become a 3 step process? ISO is displayed in the viewfinder, you press the button and turn the dial while looking through the viewfinder, that's it. Anyone who has used exposure compensation on any SLR bodies from the 80s or after probably already has the muscle memory for this. "Not suitable for fast paced shooting" Worked fine for me shooting sports and wildlife on three generations of Nikon pro bodies. I get it, you don't like it, it's not your preference and you want your complaint to be heard. Creating a problem out of it that isn't real doesn't help anyone who's trying to learn about something or make a decision though. You're taking a control convention that most wildlife photographers are extremely familiar with and have no issue with, and making it out to be some kind of awful in convenience, it's nonsense.
Second point "Xh2 is not a wildlife camera by the way" thanks, but as much as I appreciate the condescending comment from a complete stranger, I think I'll defer to my over 20 years of shooting wildlife instead. Since digital bodies have been a thing, being able to put the most possible pixels on a subject for a given distance and given focal length has been a primary concern, especially for bird and macro photography. A 1.5x crop body with the highest pixel density for that sensor size on the market literally puts more pixels on the subject for a given focal length than anything else out there. Combine that with the new offering of a 150-600mm telephoto, and this is an absolute dream setup for small bird photography. I was also actually not specifically referring to the XH2, the S model is more appealing to me personally, but either would be great for wildlife. I can't see myself replying again regardless of what you say. I just hate seeing these kinds of blatantly ignorant and closed minded comments in the community. I recommend actually trying out some of the types of shooting you think can't be done with the cameras you'd being so critical of, you might surprise yourself. And if you haven't maybe consider that you haven't before making comments that other people might take seriously, it does them a disservice.
It seems like the 40MP sensor, while impressive, really captures the attention of pixel peepers, but the overall performance of the stacked 26MP really outshines it in many ways.
I understand that some the XT series controls better, but there is something to say about similar ergonomic, controls and same battery. As this roles down from the GFX 100 some of us may have already developed the muscle memory to work with this to cameras. As a (mostly) landscape photographer I see the H2 as the perfect back up for the 100s, as it allows me to have a longer reach (70-300, 100-400 or Fuji 150-600) that does not exist in the GFX world. The H2S is about speed and I see it as an excellent street photography camera as well as the obvious wildlife/Sports instrument. If the budget allows getting them both solves a lot of problems
Someone's overkill camera is another person's backup camera.
I met Michael at PaleyFest back in like 2016 or 2017. Not related to the video content, but man does time fly.
Feels like a lecture. I wish we had more visualized comparisons - data, charts, and sample pictures
Exact opposite for me. Too many TH-camrs attempt to buttress their presentation with whiz bang graphics instead of relying on a baseline of facts and truly useful information, mostly to distract viewers into thinking they're getting quality content when they really aren't. This guy did it right. A clean, factually based comparison between the two cameras.
@@jabmyarm6446 agreed
This is a great way to explain. You don't need a silver plate for everything.
Great comparison. Have watched a few already but always good to get the Fuji Guys take.
Is there any particular technical reason why the pixel shift can’t come to the X-H2S later with firmware? I hope this isn’t going to be one of those cases where a model has features held back to prevent its sister body only released two months earlier from stealing its time in the sun/sales. I can understand some of the video differences due to stacked vs non-stacked, different sensor resolutions and speeds etc, but I don’t buy the theory that X-H2S can’t do pixel shift unless someone can give a really good reason. X-Trans held pixel shift back before, but that is clearly not the case now.
I own a GFX-100S and will sell some of my older X-T bodies and go full PASM with both X-H2 variants and the 100S in my camera bag, but it would not be good if some features are held back that can be implemented on both X-H2 variants via firmware when technically possible.
I'll summarize this down, if your main focus is taking pictures get the X-H2 with very little importance on video now if your focus is videography get the X-H2S and your welcome
Partially accurate. If you're photographing sports, action, etc. and high burst, the X-H2S is better.
Help needed! I am a wedding and event photographer shooting on an XT-3. The biggest issue I have is low light performance followed by focus accuracy (not speed). Which will be better for low light xh2 or xh2s? The xt-3 just doesn't cut it anymore in dark situations.
Based on the information I gathered, h2s is better at low light performance. Someone please make a counter argument.
Im thinking about upgrading in the future. Did the XH2s do you any good? :=)
i have a question: when will you update them to have real-time af tracking by touch in video? and i get that stacked is a thing and it does indeed make some things possible, but af doesnt need stacked to work. a6300 from about 6 years ago has still very good af in video compared to some modern cameras, yet it's far from stacked..
Thank you for the info you gave us. Which is better in LOW-LIGHT situations, sir? H2S vs H2 ? (presumably it would be the H2S, with the stacked BSI sensor as it captures more light/information to be processed afterwards for computing in post-processing versus the great extended electronic shutter on H2 and native ISO, is it right?), i want to read your expert's opinion. Thank you, again!
I just want the best of both of these cameras in one camera… haha. I hate that the best features from both are split up. Fuji was so close to making their version of the Sony a1.
I don't understand Fuji. Why can't the command dials control the ISO like in all previous Fuji's? Ok for PSAM but this choice of command dials is incomprehensible to me. Furthermore, being very performing in video, why is there still no possibility of having the crop masks of the various formats in overlay? For me they are mysteries ...
100% agree, the decision to remove that ISO customization makes absolutely no sense to me
They are reaching out of the usual market for its video features. Possibly even to lure them to the ecosystem and try other Fuji cameras in the future.
@@27hdyx6b3ym3w that’s no reason to limit customization by removing the ability to map ISO to a dial. Changing the built to suit another market? Sure. This though? No. They could’ve kept it.
Extremely useful video
Very helpful - thank you!
I don't want to sell my 3yr old Fuji primes for the newer ones. So have you used any older lenes and seen a big difference vs the newer lens of the same focal length?
Realistically speaking, the resolution difference between. 26 megapixels and 40 is merely just above 25 percent, so 5 pixels in place of every 4 on the lower pixel count sensor… very little difference in the final image result. Even though 40 compared to 26 is a 50 percent gain in total, the square nature of the sensor and pixel-count, is the background behind the statement “25 percent more resolution” being approx true
Excellent. Thank you. Would love for Fuji to continue to open up the audio to third parties so we can get on camera non wired audio via the hotshoe. Wondering if Tascam will be able to deliver a shotgun/stereo mic configuration without having to plug in a mic to their already good preamp and if not, maybe other microphone companies?
Does the stacked sensor produce the same colours as the non stacked sensor? From the reviews I've seen, it looks like they have subtle, yet noticeable, differences. But I didn't take those pictures, and other things might cause a difference too.
9:42 ah yes having a less rectangular capture works better than a rectangular capture. just 'avin a laugh, great presentation!
Will any higher respolutions sensor camera have the three way tilt screen of the X-H1?
Fujifilm, fix the high FPS on the X-H2S.
Is there ANY CHANCE 60fps will be unlocked in 3:2 open gate on the xh2s?
Can the X-H2 be set to mechanical shutter only @ video mode?
Can you please fix the disgusting noise when shooting FLog2 4k 60 / 120 or in high speed recording with xh2s?
Video starts at 2:45
Does the XH2 produce a higher-res JPEG than the XH2S?
Well I decided I need both. Thanks fuji ya broke my wallet
1/180,000 Shutter speed would be perfect to capture Alien UFOs...!
So we should all be buying the xh2s compared to xh2
I still can’t make my mind up!
You can't go wrong with either tbh 😉
Can you please talk about the difference in bokeh when it comes to mechanical vs electronic shutter? Is mechanical shutter produce smoother bokeh than electronic? Cheers
there is no difference.
What happens after 500k shots? Just curious.
It transforms into a 🥔
I love my X-H2 but there is one thing about the C1-C7 settings that is driving me crazy: On my older cameras (X-T3, X-T4) these settings are "loadable". When you select them, they load into the current memory and you can then adjust individual settings, and you don't lose your adjustments if you turn the camera off, and you ALSO don't change the basic custom settings when you make adjustments after loading the custom configuration set. On the X-H2 and X-H2s you can only turn automatic updating for the C1-C7 settings on or off. If it's off, any temporary change I make is lost when I turn the camera off during a shoot, and I have to remember to change it again after turning the camera on again. If it's on, I don't lose my temporary settings when I turn the camera off, but I have then also changed the basic Cx setting. Now, every evening after a shoot, I have to remember to sit down and reset my basic Cx settings to their default values. This is all so disruptive to my entire photographic workflow that I find myself almost never using the X-H2 if I can possibly avoid it. I use the X-T4 instead whenever possible, and I'm actually considering selling the X-H2, even though it's technically a much better camera. It would be a huge benefit if the custom settings could be made loadable in the same way as they are on the older cameras.
I want the pixels from X-H2 but the AF from X-H2S for weddings :( Will the non S do?
Man said, “first take” 😂
Do you think the normal xh2 is good enough for TH-cam? Specifically for vlogging and talking head and the af tracking yourself without the need for manual focus.
I do weddings and wildlife too, so I know the S is the better choice. But I also currently use a xt2 and xh1 so maybe the xh2 will be good enough for my needs. As it’s still a huge upgrade over what I currently have. I’d imagine even if not as amazing as the S it’s still probably better than the xt4.
No, not at all…
WTF these cameras are overkill for youtube. I see these cameras as pro tools for paid pro work not something to film degenerative content for social media platforms.
I have both cameras. I bought the X-H2s first then the X-H2 for the higher resolution to be able to crop while retaining more sharpness and resolution. However in practice I can see no difference at all when cropping from either camera. Despite what Fuji claim, I suspect that the lenses just can't resolve the extra MP of the X-H2s (I'm using the xf100-400 and xf70-300 for wildlife).
I'm not the only one finding. this: th-cam.com/video/Px8V_rKa3H4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MikeRiley
Let me know you suggest me Fujifilm x-h2 or x-h2s which one is better for photography only? No video.
X-H2 would probably be your best your best bet 🤝
Thank you so much, we have a good day
XH2s is for shooting moving objects and XH2 is for shooting still objects🤔
1. I wonder why pixel-shift is not coming to other camera models that have the IBIS hardware? If not older models then at least why not add this feature to the XH2s via firmware update?
2. I'm curious how the upcoming X-T5 will relate to the X-H2 in features. Will it have the same sensor? Same highest e-shutter speed? Will it have pixelshift?
Well we'll find out that soon, I guess. 😉
On the "S" I can use my old lenses, without "S" not?
40mp is irrelevant when you are talking open gate and 14 stops of dynamic range on the x-h2s. 99.9999999999999999% of Fuji users arent shooting for billboard ads and have zero use for 40mp.
Sorry, Fujifilm AF sucks. From 400 photos are 300 massiv out of focus due to AF+MF setting was activated and additional 50 due to false focus even with aye detected shown. From 50 rest are only 25 real sharp an useable. Camera: X-h2 latest fw and xf 16-80 also last fw.
After more than 10 Years of Fuji with all x-modells ends my Fujifilm usage with last catastrophic results.
Fujifilms AF sucks and is not even close to other brands capabilities.
Bye Fujifilm and welcome back Nikon.
I wouldnt buy either one, thats the diff.
Why?
Yo, this guy Theoria Apophasis didn't get a free demo X-H2s for review from FujiFilm so he's upset. His review of that camera that he "borrowed" from a friend is also filled with inaccuracies and misunderstanding of how to use these new X-H2/s cameras. I would ignore anything he says about cameras and indulge in his crazy, conspiracy theories!
Anybody wanna explain what difference means to Theoria? 😂
@@ItsDrewsif Guy can talk for 45 minutes about gravity and electromagnetism using words no one’s ever heard of, but can’t use difference properly!
You guys must be out of your effing mind to have guts to set $200 price on a $20 cooling fan. I wonder if you markup your cameras the same way? So they really should cost $200 and not $2000?
Both cameras sound great. But unfortunately, for me, I do not want to be forced into a flippy flappy side hinged screen whether for photography or filming. The tilt screen is way way better for everything apart from filming yourself, which in many years of shooting weddings I’ve never found myself doing.
Flip screen for me on the "S". I guess you buy the XH2?
But
But
Flip screens can do the same and more
As in
They do what tilts do
But in addition allow ppl to take photos from more awkward angles
The complaints people come up with are amazing.
Eh, alright I suppose, but the PASM kills it for me, and looks too much like a Sony. I’ll hold out for the ’5’, that said, it is sad that Fuji decided to demote the X-Tx from the Flagship offering and if rumours are true the lack of an optional BG is very disappointing. I have had motor drives and BGs on all of my rigs (Canon) going back to 1980. Still looking forward to the rollout of the X-T5 soon.
same