Jesus wept! For such a beautiful girl Zoe plainly had rock bottom self-esteem to put up with knowing that she'd 'won' Dennis by default. He was obsessed with Sharon and envisaged forever with her so why would she create this fantasy world where she was happy to settle for the crumbs of affection he'd throw her? What kind of life would have that been for her and her baby? Brilliant episode. Made me depressed just by watching it - which means the writers did their job!LOL
Claire Lally so did I, it really isn't much of an excuse. Zoe's behaviour was pitiful and ridiculous, I stopped feeling sorry for her when she lied about the pregnancy.
Claire Lally none taken. No, I didn’t, and that must be awful. But I didn’t find out until I was about her age and I have never ever known my real father.
Help if she was pregnant lol she ends up having his dad's baby ( dirty den ) to keep a hook on Dennis very sad , I know its a soap but come on there men women like this today ....sad ☹️
She's probably grown up now. Probably looks back on it with shame. It's not worth it. They're both miserable. Better to be alone than miserable in a fake relationship. And she probably realised it wasn't worth it forcing him to be with her
I agree, but Den's the real villain in this. He put pressure on Zoe to lie and Zoe was too silly to stand up to him. To be fair to her she did start to feel a little guilty but it was too late thanks to her stupidity. She was silly and selfish and Den was monstrous.
Zoe was more than silly and selfish she was totally horrible trying to hang on to Dennis by having sex with Den to get pregnant by his father pretending it was Dennis's baby that was disgusting and should have been a no go to zone. That's too much desperation.
@@pjmoneybags2780 Zoe was initially shocked that Den suggested that and I agree that she should never have done that but since Den was older and in a position of power over her - I know it wasn't like Kat and Andy but I just think Den was worse than Zoe because he blackmailed her into sex and then got her drunk and used reverse psychology to make her agree to that when she obviously did not want to sleep with him....She should really have stood up to him and refused to lie in the first place or broken up with Dennis or complained to Chrissie about Den's behaviour but that takes a lot of courage and conviction and self-confidence which Zoe did not have.
@@98slbrookes98 I get that, but Zoe definitely should have taken Kat's advice in the first place and stayed away from Dennis, especially since he had already been with her mom and dumped her. She learned nothing from the situation with Anthony. It would have saved her a lot of heartache and humiliation. That's one of the problems of being young and "knowing it all".
Why would anyone want to put someone through such misery? If she really loved Dennis, she would have just let him be with Zoe. Yeah, I get it ... she loved him, but was this worth it? I would much rather be in a relationship with a woman who loves me and wants to be with me, instead of being with someone who clearly wants to be elsewhere. What's the point? You'll both be unhappy. It's not worth it, period. Sometimes, you need to put other people's happiness over your own. It might sting for a while, but eventually you'll find someone else and be even happier.
True gentleman well said, I'm still in love with my son mother but I put her through troubles with my addiction but now clean sober got my heed sorted and she with someone else, long as she happy that's all it matters it's easier than I thought lol maybe cause I'm no selfish anymore and at peace
Dot was the mother that Dennis never had and Dennis was the son that Dot never had.
Nick had the nerve to try to poison his own mum! That's a different kind of evil, even if he did stop it.
"Caring isn't to be sneezed at". Fabulous line
Nigel Harmon is such an amazing actor
Awww Dot he's crying.......hug him.
It's hard to watch Dennis after Sharon left, heartbroken
Jesus wept! For such a beautiful girl Zoe plainly had rock bottom self-esteem to put up with knowing that she'd 'won' Dennis by default. He was obsessed with Sharon and envisaged forever with her so why would she create this fantasy world where she was happy to settle for the crumbs of affection he'd throw her? What kind of life would have that been for her and her baby? Brilliant episode. Made me depressed just by watching it - which means the writers did their job!LOL
67DrWatson Can you blame her? She grew up believing her mother was her sister.
Claire Lally so did I, it really isn't much of an excuse. Zoe's behaviour was pitiful and ridiculous, I stopped feeling sorry for her when she lied about the pregnancy.
@@clairelally5236 Sharon and Dennis not related
Claire Lally none taken. No, I didn’t, and that must be awful. But I didn’t find out until I was about her age and I have never ever known my real father.
Help if she was pregnant lol she ends up having his dad's baby ( dirty den ) to keep a hook on Dennis very sad , I know its a soap but come on there men women like this today ....sad ☹️
I agree that dot will be a good mum for dennis
WE LOVE YOU DOT!!
Dot was a mother from another mother to dennis god rest his soul
I felt a bit bad for Zoe to be honest. I'd hate to be that desperate to keep hold of a man I knew didn't love me. It's quite pathetic, really.
She was pathetic but she slept with Den to get pregnant she went to a new level of desperation.
She's probably grown up now. Probably looks back on it with shame. It's not worth it. They're both miserable. Better to be alone than miserable in a fake relationship. And she probably realised it wasn't worth it forcing him to be with her
@@AS-wj1du her last couple of weeks she did start to grow up and stand up for herself more. The whole den murder case really toughened her up.
Zoe was beyond desperate! She makes me cringe!
Dot was like a mum to Dennis and Dennis was la
2frey84 They had a beautiful relationship.
I agree, but Den's the real villain in this. He put pressure on Zoe to lie and Zoe was too silly to stand up to him. To be fair to her she did start to feel a little guilty but it was too late thanks to her stupidity. She was silly and selfish and Den was monstrous.
Zoe was more than silly and selfish she was totally horrible trying to hang on to Dennis by having sex with Den to get pregnant by his father pretending it was Dennis's baby that was disgusting and should have been a no go to zone. That's too much desperation.
@@pjmoneybags2780 Zoe was initially shocked that Den suggested that and I agree that she should never have done that but since Den was older and in a position of power over her - I know it wasn't like Kat and Andy but I just think Den was worse than Zoe because he blackmailed her into sex and then got her drunk and used reverse psychology to make her agree to that when she obviously did not want to sleep with him....She should really have stood up to him and refused to lie in the first place or broken up with Dennis or complained to Chrissie about Den's behaviour but that takes a lot of courage and conviction and self-confidence which Zoe did not have.
@@98slbrookes98 I get that, but Zoe definitely should have taken Kat's advice in the first place and stayed away from Dennis, especially since he had already been with her mom and dumped her. She learned nothing from the situation with Anthony. It would have saved her a lot of heartache and humiliation. That's one of the problems of being young and "knowing it all".
Dot gives the best advice
Why would anyone want to put someone through such misery? If she really loved Dennis, she would have just let him be with Zoe. Yeah, I get it ... she loved him, but was this worth it? I would much rather be in a relationship with a woman who loves me and wants to be with me, instead of being with someone who clearly wants to be elsewhere. What's the point? You'll both be unhappy. It's not worth it, period. Sometimes, you need to put other people's happiness over your own. It might sting for a while, but eventually you'll find someone else and be even happier.
True gentleman well said, I'm still in love with my son mother but I put her through troubles with my addiction but now clean sober got my heed sorted and she with someone else, long as she happy that's all it matters it's easier than I thought lol maybe cause I'm no selfish anymore and at peace
You can see she regrets it. They're both miserable. She realised no point forcing someone to be with you
not really liking mo's cat tail hair-do shame she kept it till 2010
Whose baby is that? Is it Freddie?
No it was was lie
@@andrewwright4195 1:45 talking about the baby he was holding in the video, before he gave it back to Zoe and left