The Fox seems to have improved the places where the Yeti lacks most (notably 16 to 24 bit processing and a little better sound) and trimmed out the stuff on the Yeti most people won't need (switchable polar patterns). Shame about the gain control issue: It's otherwise an improvement for sure but what the world REALLY needs is a Q2U with a better preamp and 24 bit processing. AT2100x has the concept down but doesn't sound as good as a Q2U... so the best USB mic for 99% of people is still the Q2U. I'd love it if Behringer would build something like that around the XM8500 capsule.
The Beyerdynamic FOX is a great quality microphone both audio quality and build vice. I ordered one and tested it out. I found thath the FOXes soundcard makes the microphone feel kind of incompleat and/or lacking in a feature it advertises to have. I found that the FOX could not cope whit almost any audio playback past ~ 70% volume turned on the microphones own volume knob. Though it did not seem to interfere with the recording itself. Then I had this strange ticking cpupled with a low key voice emerging in the recordings that seemed totally random. I changed the windows sample rates and it seemed to fix it. But the soundcard problem stated... Maybe it is hard wear related? Do not get me wrong, the FOX does the recording part great. It is only the audio playback part that lacks. I decided to return mine, but if this "feature?" does not bother you, then go for the FOX. Btw! I fid ask Beyerdynamic about the audiocard... (as I was trouble shooting the low key ticking "problem" that Beyerdynamic customer support helped me fix.) ...but did not get a answer regarding it.....
This was a surprise! I was under the impression you favoring the Bayer Dynamic and i was ready to write you that IMO "you still sound better from the Yeti dude!" And then came your conclusion! Exactly!
Thank for your quality video. i brough the ATR 2100x because of your beautiful review on it. I dont regret it. Its sound amazing and dont catch the sound of my AC.
This might be old but if I’m not mistaken the Blue Yeti has a windscreen under the mesh so if you pop that top part off there’s an internal windscreen right inside the walls of the mesh
Definitely has more of a warm tone for sure, the Yeti has a pretty hyped high end... But what good is a mic if you can set the gain properly ya know? It is actually kind of funny though, these mics are exact opposites for me. Fox: like the sound, but hate some of the features. Yeti: Not crazy about the sound, but love the features. Maybe one day a company will make the perfect USB condenser mic.
@@AudioHotline Agree! A USB mic needs full gain control option. I personally don't mind as I can always adjust volume via DAW. Usually have no problem. I still don't understand why they would only give you two options for gain control.
Gma Rod this is super weird though, the computer input gain settings are completely disabled with the fox... I wasn’t able to find any way to adjust it in the computer settings or DAW before recording. Even the Blue Yeti allows you to adjust both the gain knob and the computer input gain. So all you can really do is hope either low or high works for you as a gain level and then adjust the master gain of the track after the fact. Just super odd.
@@AudioHotline "the computer input gain settings are completely disabled with the fox" Can you not just change the input volume in the sound settings? That's what I did and it works fine. Additionally, for someone who is using the microphone purely for voice-over, I actually prefer not having to mess with a dial because I don't have to pay attention to the specific setting that I usually use each time. I use the low gain setting for recording and the high gain setting for video calls. This makes my recordings much more consistent. I guess it just depends on what your needs are. The FOX's quality is far better and that's the main reason I purchased it over the Yeti.
I'm waiting on a video that compares most USB microphones. It needs to include the AT2020 USB+, which I feel it's been forgotten, and the Elgato Wave 3.
To better reject the background noise on the yeti you'll need to set the on-mic gain to 5%-15% and boost the volume on windows to 85%-100% to equalize the volume. Take consideration if you are gaming you may need to check any volume settings in game to boost the VOIP volume to 100% along with Discord.
That gane control ie wery handy and usefull. Low means you can speek from very close and high means you can speek ftom distance. Its like chousing between dynamic and condencate. Its cool.
I love the sound of the Fox, I just got it yesterday, however, I think that for my usage, which is mostly video conferences and meetings, I should've bought the Yeti.
I think there are a lot of good mics using electret capsules. The Yeti just isn't one of them. The vintage CAD E100 and E200 mics with the Primo capsules are what electret mics should try to be. A legitimate professional quality product. But that won't happen with the tinny little electrets in all these streamer USB mics.
Not sure why I'm not a yeti fan even though I have a nano. Maybe it's the looks of the yeti. Either way this comparison is to close to tell. I'll stick with my Nano.
I’m just glad you didn’t say that Bigfoot doesn’t exist, because I would’ve had to delete your channel immediately! Up in the mountains where we live we call it a skunk ape. 🤣
How do you make your blue yeti sound so good? I got mine a couple of days ago but the quality isn't nearly as good as yours, not even with post-processing
I think the thing that really tricks people with the yeti is that it's in-body gain control isn't the only way the gain can be set. If you go into your computer sound settings and look at the "input" gain level, it may be up too high and causing too high of a noise floor or even causing the audio to clip. I usually go into the computer input settings with the yeti and set it to around 20% and then put the gain level on the yeti to around 40%. That is usually plenty gain for me, but I talk to loud. Messing around with those two settings should help you get a better result. Gain issues are usually the reason mics may not sound very clean, or have a hiss in the background.
Audio Hotline Sorry for replying only now. Thanks for the detailed answer! I did play around with input volume and gain, but I always end up having to process the audio in order for it to sound good, and it doesn't even sound as good as yours, I'm starting to regret my decison to buy a blue yeti. Do you think I should get a samson SAQ2U instead? I heard its quality is decent and it doesn't pick as much background noise as the yeti. Again, thank you and have a good day, you're an awesome content creator and I love your reviews!
Room noise can definitely ruin a recording! In a noisy room with no treatment, the blue yeti isn’t the best choice. You would get better results out of a dynamic mic, like the Q2U. A couple options you could do: If you are absolutely set on getting a USB mic, the Q2U is a good choice, and just sell your yeti. If you want to try to make the yeti work, buy some “moving blankets” and try to hang them up around where you are recording. Sell the yeti and invest in an audio interface and a dynamic XLR mic. This is truly the best option because you can record at higher sample rates and bit depths. Also, it is a good future proofed system. If you sold the yeti and bought the Behringer UMC22 and the Behringer XM8500, it would be a great set up for a while and the money you got from selling the yeti should cover the price. Then you can eventually upgrade your mic, if you want, and still use your interface, or vice versa. Hopefully this helps ya!
I actually just used a traditional mic stand with a ball head for a camera (I always use one). Here is a link to one I use a lot: amzn.to/3JxcgUs You may need some stand adapters also, I am not sure what kind of stand you have and what the threading is on it, but here are some adapters you could need to make the ball head work. amzn.to/3JXZxf9 The whole kit is pretty cheap, but if you look up the exact adapter you need based off of your stand’s mount threading, you could save even more.
sorry.. i see that you recording 2 mics in the same time but in your daw only you can chose to work at 16 bits if you use the blue yet... so is not a good testing or complete testsing becouse you know is a big different to work at 16 and 24 bits
You actually can still choose 24 bit recording in Logic Pro X, the Blue yeti will just max out at 16 bit. The way that I do it... the DAW isn’t reading the microphone directly. I create an Aggregate Recording Device in my Mac and it allows me to default any mics that I add to that device at 24 bit at 48khz. Any mic that can’t do those rates, will just record at its highest capability within those parameters. The DAW accepts that device I created as it’s input and output. So I definitely thought of that.
If you're just sitting playing games in the same spot with the same setup over and over again. You don't need to be fucking with your gain anyway, its just another thing to accidently turn down (usually during cleaning) and spend 5-10 minutes of game time working out why your teammates can't hear you 🤣🤣
Personally, I just don't think that a perfect USB condenser mic is out yet. I believe the best options out there are an audio interface and an XLR Condenser mic. The yeti has a lot of great features, but like i said in the video, I am just not crazy about the sound. I would much prefer the NT-USB mic from RØDE over either of these.... but at the price point of the NT-USB, you should just pick up an interface and a Neat King Bee mic.
The Fox seems to have improved the places where the Yeti lacks most (notably 16 to 24 bit processing and a little better sound) and trimmed out the stuff on the Yeti most people won't need (switchable polar patterns). Shame about the gain control issue: It's otherwise an improvement for sure but what the world REALLY needs is a Q2U with a better preamp and 24 bit processing. AT2100x has the concept down but doesn't sound as good as a Q2U... so the best USB mic for 99% of people is still the Q2U. I'd love it if Behringer would build something like that around the XM8500 capsule.
Completely agree!
The Beyerdynamic FOX is a great quality microphone both audio quality and build vice. I ordered one and tested it out. I found thath the FOXes soundcard makes the microphone feel kind of incompleat and/or lacking in a feature it advertises to have. I found that the FOX could not cope whit almost any audio playback past ~ 70% volume turned on the microphones own volume knob. Though it did not seem to interfere with the recording itself. Then I had this strange ticking cpupled with a low key voice emerging in the recordings that seemed totally random. I changed the windows sample rates and it seemed to fix it. But the soundcard problem stated... Maybe it is hard wear related? Do not get me wrong, the FOX does the recording part great. It is only the audio playback part that lacks. I decided to return mine, but if this "feature?" does not bother you, then go for the FOX. Btw! I fid ask Beyerdynamic about the audiocard... (as I was trouble shooting the low key ticking "problem" that Beyerdynamic customer support helped me fix.) ...but did not get a answer regarding it.....
This was a surprise! I was under the impression you favoring the Bayer Dynamic and i was ready to write you that IMO "you still sound better from the Yeti dude!" And then came your conclusion! Exactly!
Thank for your quality video. i brough the ATR 2100x because of your beautiful review on it. I dont regret it. Its sound amazing and dont catch the sound of my AC.
This might be old but if I’m not mistaken the Blue Yeti has a windscreen under the mesh so if you pop that top part off there’s an internal windscreen right inside the walls of the mesh
I remember when I first watched AT2020 vs Yeti a long time ago, and well, this is now in my sub box so I'm watching it
The fox has more body on the voice and kills the ssssss. Sounds more like a studio mic.
Definitely has more of a warm tone for sure, the Yeti has a pretty hyped high end... But what good is a mic if you can set the gain properly ya know? It is actually kind of funny though, these mics are exact opposites for me.
Fox: like the sound, but hate some of the features.
Yeti: Not crazy about the sound, but love the features.
Maybe one day a company will make the perfect USB condenser mic.
@@AudioHotline Agree! A USB mic needs full gain control option. I personally don't mind as I can always adjust volume via DAW. Usually have no problem. I still don't understand why they would only give you two options for gain control.
Gma Rod this is super weird though, the computer input gain settings are completely disabled with the fox... I wasn’t able to find any way to adjust it in the computer settings or DAW before recording. Even the Blue Yeti allows you to adjust both the gain knob and the computer input gain. So all you can really do is hope either low or high works for you as a gain level and then adjust the master gain of the track after the fact. Just super odd.
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@@AudioHotline "the computer input gain settings are completely disabled with the fox"
Can you not just change the input volume in the sound settings? That's what I did and it works fine. Additionally, for someone who is using the microphone purely for voice-over, I actually prefer not having to mess with a dial because I don't have to pay attention to the specific setting that I usually use each time. I use the low gain setting for recording and the high gain setting for video calls. This makes my recordings much more consistent.
I guess it just depends on what your needs are. The FOX's quality is far better and that's the main reason I purchased it over the Yeti.
I'm waiting on a video that compares most USB microphones. It needs to include the AT2020 USB+, which I feel it's been forgotten, and the Elgato Wave 3.
As dar as I know you can fine-tune the gain of the Fox via Software.
I’m really glad I found this channel. Legit info and great videos. You deserve way more subs my dude.
To better reject the background noise on the yeti you'll need to set the on-mic gain to 5%-15% and boost the volume on windows to 85%-100% to equalize the volume. Take consideration if you are gaming you may need to check any volume settings in game to boost the VOIP volume to 100% along with Discord.
That gane control ie wery handy and usefull. Low means you can speek from very close and high means you can speek ftom distance. Its like chousing between dynamic and condencate. Its cool.
Blue yeti pro is nice the different patterns are so good if you record choirs
Man, you are very good on what you do! Congratulations! I really like watch you videos.
Good review.
I like noise floor and white noise test
The only thing positive I can say about the gain control switch is - with time it will not become noisy like an analog rotary gain control.
Good review. But frankly as a listener I would hardly care which one is used.
Would be nice to see some side view as well to understand how far you from mics. In general super nice channel
idk about standalone mics but i picked up the fox for 90 on sale while looking at new headset. im sure for a first timer itll be fine for me right?
good review, well done :)
I love the sound of the Fox, I just got it yesterday, however, I think that for my usage, which is mostly video conferences and meetings, I should've bought the Yeti.
Ooh, why is that?
the fox sounds like its trying to mimic a dynamic microphone. the yeti sounds like a Blue microphone
You didnt speak about the fact the Fox doesnt look like a fucking potato like the Yeti :)
Your so underrated my guy
I think there are a lot of good mics using electret capsules. The Yeti just isn't one of them. The vintage CAD E100 and E200 mics with the Primo capsules are what electret mics should try to be. A legitimate professional quality product. But that won't happen with the tinny little electrets in all these streamer USB mics.
Not sure why I'm not a yeti fan even though I have a nano. Maybe it's the looks of the yeti. Either way this comparison is to close to tell. I'll stick with my Nano.
Can you do a video on the Fox VS Samson Gtrack pro. Please & Thank You 🙏🏽
I’m just glad you didn’t say that Bigfoot doesn’t exist, because I would’ve had to delete your channel immediately! Up in the mountains where we live we call it a skunk ape. 🤣
I believe 🖖
Audio Hotline it’s really hard to swallow. You know the rest. One of the two sounded really sibilant. The x and c sounds were killing me.
hey can u please do a review on the audio technical atr2500x USB that'll be very helpful :)
you should use the blue yeti x i would love to see that.
I wish I could get my blue yeti sound good as yours
Hey can u do a review of the audio technica atr2500x usb
What do you think of the Blue Yeti X and the Blue Yeti Pro?
How do you make your blue yeti sound so good? I got mine a couple of days ago but the quality isn't nearly as good as yours, not even with post-processing
I think the thing that really tricks people with the yeti is that it's in-body gain control isn't the only way the gain can be set. If you go into your computer sound settings and look at the "input" gain level, it may be up too high and causing too high of a noise floor or even causing the audio to clip. I usually go into the computer input settings with the yeti and set it to around 20% and then put the gain level on the yeti to around 40%. That is usually plenty gain for me, but I talk to loud. Messing around with those two settings should help you get a better result. Gain issues are usually the reason mics may not sound very clean, or have a hiss in the background.
Audio Hotline Sorry for replying only now. Thanks for the detailed answer! I did play around with input volume and gain, but I always end up having to process the audio in order for it to sound good, and it doesn't even sound as good as yours, I'm starting to regret my decison to buy a blue yeti. Do you think I should get a samson SAQ2U instead? I heard its quality is decent and it doesn't pick as much background noise as the yeti. Again, thank you and have a good day, you're an awesome content creator and I love your reviews!
Room noise can definitely ruin a recording! In a noisy room with no treatment, the blue yeti isn’t the best choice. You would get better results out of a dynamic mic, like the Q2U.
A couple options you could do:
If you are absolutely set on getting a USB mic, the Q2U is a good choice, and just sell your yeti.
If you want to try to make the yeti work, buy some “moving blankets” and try to hang them up around where you are recording.
Sell the yeti and invest in an audio interface and a dynamic XLR mic. This is truly the best option because you can record at higher sample rates and bit depths. Also, it is a good future proofed system. If you sold the yeti and bought the Behringer UMC22 and the Behringer XM8500, it would be a great set up for a while and the money you got from selling the yeti should cover the price. Then you can eventually upgrade your mic, if you want, and still use your interface, or vice versa.
Hopefully this helps ya!
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Yeti is overcompressed or a bit overdriven ...
how did you mount the fox? I don't have that thing to mount it with my table mount
I actually just used a traditional mic stand with a ball head for a camera (I always use one).
Here is a link to one I use a lot:
amzn.to/3JxcgUs
You may need some stand adapters also, I am not sure what kind of stand you have and what the threading is on it, but here are some adapters you could need to make the ball head work.
amzn.to/3JXZxf9
The whole kit is pretty cheap, but if you look up the exact adapter you need based off of your stand’s mount threading, you could save even more.
@@AudioHotline thank you very much!
Yeti with post processing is better.
which mic you use?
It work on the xbox series x?
I bought my Fox for 78€ 💅
sorry.. i see that you recording 2 mics in the same time but in your daw only you can chose to work at 16 bits if you use the blue yet... so is not a good testing or complete testsing becouse you know is a big different to work at 16 and 24 bits
You actually can still choose 24 bit recording in Logic Pro X, the Blue yeti will just max out at 16 bit.
The way that I do it... the DAW isn’t reading the microphone directly. I create an Aggregate Recording Device in my Mac and it allows me to default any mics that I add to that device at 24 bit at 48khz. Any mic that can’t do those rates, will just record at its highest capability within those parameters. The DAW accepts that device I created as it’s input and output. So I definitely thought of that.
If you're just sitting playing games in the same spot with the same setup over and over again. You don't need to be fucking with your gain anyway, its just another thing to accidently turn down (usually during cleaning) and spend 5-10 minutes of game time working out why your teammates can't hear you 🤣🤣
Blue yeti seems cleaner sounding to me.
FOX > YETI
Is Yeti really worth in 2020 ?
Please tell the cons of Yeti! I'll order right now then!! Haha!
Personally, I just don't think that a perfect USB condenser mic is out yet. I believe the best options out there are an audio interface and an XLR Condenser mic.
The yeti has a lot of great features, but like i said in the video, I am just not crazy about the sound. I would much prefer the NT-USB mic from RØDE over either of these.... but at the price point of the NT-USB, you should just pick up an interface and a Neat King Bee mic.
@@AudioHotline Thank you so much man! Will consider that!
@@AudioHotline The Rode NT-USB doesn't have a gain button tho' does it... Which is a deal breaker for some of us, when it's in the same price range. 😔
Cada vez que habla al yeti se le acerca y al otro se retira, mas manipulado este test no podría estar
I know it's a bit nasty, but I always find it a bit amusing how German company names are pronounced in English.😅
yeti = fallacy
fox = legit
round earth = fallacy
flat earth = legit
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Blue yeti is overhyped garbage. Scooped out mids, bass and high treble