Could Insect Declines Lead To Social Collapse? | Aaron Bastani meets Dave Goulson
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- Insects are the creatures that act as a lubricant in the machine of life. From pollinating vital crops to managing organic waste on a continental scale, their critical role cannot be understated. The problem is that they are quite quickly disappearing.
Dave Goulson is a world-renowned entomologist and ecologist whose books have communicated the majesty of insects and arthropods whilst providing grave warning to us about their demise.
He sat down with Aaron to talk about dung beetles, wolves in Sussex and the critical lack of scientific expertise in government.
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As a permaculturist and regenerative gardener, I'm rewilding our garden near Barry in south Wales. During my 1st summer there I've seen a Jersey Tiger butterfly and we have dragonflies because of the small pond. There were ladybugs everywhere. All around us every other house is surrounded by a virtual desert of either gravel, paving or close cropped lawns. Our attitude towards both private and public spaces needs to change.
What can I do? My garden is basically left wild and I don't use pesticides, but what about my neighbours? Are there positive changes I can make to my 'hands off' garden to help encourage insects?
@@queenvagabond8787 yes, you can plant berry bushes, fruit trees (in the UK, plums, apples, pears, raspberries, gooseberries currants, elder etc.) and sow wildflowers under and around them. Comfrey will also provide summer long pollen for bees and can be cut multiple times in one season and used as mulch or liquid fertiliser by just filling a bucket with leaves and topping up with water. Let sit in the sun or a greenhouse, if you have one, and in 4 days or so stir it and apply liberally wherever the garden needs feeding.
Try creating a small pond either in the ground or in a barrel or old sink/bath. Put a solar aerator in it and plant water mint for the pollinators. Put native bluebells in the shady areas for next spring and other bulbs like daffodils for early colour.
Build bug houses from bundles of twigs and leave the leaves when they fall.
It takes a year or 2 to get the feel for a space, record the path of the sun, monitor rainfall etc. but leave any grass to go through a full growth cycle and only mow it in September. Some butterfly's life cycles need that long grass.
Oh my goodness. Don't I ramble on about the things I love. 🤭
Use TH-cam for researching permaculture and rewilding and be patient. The wild beauty of nature needs time to develop. Good luck and happy, low maintenance rewilding. 🌱🌿🌼🪻🌳🍄🍁🍂
We have a lot of relatively tiny oasis's scattered about the UK, but like you I'm surrounded by clipped grass, too few trees and meadows, monocultured arable land that isn't organic and busy roads within a mile or so.
@@queenvagabond8787managed wildness is how. Check out the search facility for wildlife gardens 😊
@@queenvagabond8787make sure you have a lot of native plants, and a wide variety of them to increase biodiversity
Aaron - Congratulations - this was a very important interview. This year has been awful for butterflies in this country (more than likely this time due to the weather, so hopefully better next year), but changes in land use, massive fields of cereals and the loss of plants to help the pollinators and also the use of insecticides is a real issue. I do hope this gets seen by lots of people and that we can help improve the plight of bees, wasps, butterflies and other insects - we depend on them. Thanks for spending so much time in getting the issues across.
Thank you NOVARA MEDIA & AARON for this conversation with DAVE 👍❤️
I am not an entomologist, biologist or anything like that.
But I have observed a huge decline in the numbers of insects during my 65 years.
55 years ago I remember warm summer nights full of moths, summer afternoons walking through hay meadows where butterflies drifted through the air like snow.
I remember flies and mosquitos too. These "pests" are now mostly gone.
In 1962 Rachel Carson published Silent Spring a book about how our indiscriminate use of agrochemicals would destroy the bottom of the food chain, the insects and how that would impact further up the food chain, now we need to feed our birds because without insects they will die out, we are also doing this in the Oceans with Krill harvesting, cutting away the bottom of the food chain, for a species that prizes intelligence we sure act in stupid manner.
The State of Nature report shows that the UK one of the most nature depleted country's in the world, we are unlikely to reverse that situation as regulations are going to be slashed to allow Industry free reign according to the Labour Government.
Sawing off the branch we are sitting on.
All true, but set in motion by Brexit when we lost the protection of the EU by being the branch that got sawn off...
No political party can make a worthwhile difference. Any "green" policies are (have always been) PR to encourage us to continue our consumption unabated. The problems we face are due to our over-polulation and total exploitation - which is what drives the credit-based growth economy which is our essential life-support system. This mechanism is a problem which the conventional political system will never be able to address. Our existence is totally unsustainable. There will be a significant re-set - chaotic, destructive, and forced upon us. Nobody can tell me otherwise.
Use of weedkiller is also a big issue. I don't know how it is still legally sold
@@janwynne-woodhouse5144 Political lobbying, probably. Political lobbying is a £2BN industry which makes a mockery of our supposed democratic system. Then there are the many "gifts" showered upon our elected representatives. Might a minister have recieved an expensive suit or glasses, or a long stay in a swanky apartment, or a luxury holiday, at the expense of a chemical company which is just being kind? Of course, these gifts have no effect on legislation at all, do they...?
In my garden in Swansea UK, honestly its hard to find insects. As I would drive my car along country lanes in the 1970's, you had to stop to clean insects off your windscreen. Where I live we've gone from abundance to virtually nothing in 50 years.
In New Jersey, USA, you see hardly any worms.
I am Costa Rican and live against a cloud forest on the top of a mountain, the decrease in the population of insects is very obvious here as well.
Add a little log pile, bee hotels etc, small changes can make a difference.
Im from Scotland and I'm a bit younger than you, but even in the 90s, insects clarting cars and windscreens was normal, especially in Summer. It seems to literally just have dropped off massively through the 2000s til now... deeply worrying.
@@queenvagabond8787so true. As a 10 year old my dad used to pay me £1 after every long road trip to clean the bugs off the car. 30 years later I can't remember the last time I saw enough bugs to warrant a clean. Anecdotal I know, but it scares me.
My organic garden was an insect desert this year.
I've never known a year like it. No bees, no bumblebees, no flies and all the flying insect friendly plants I grow, that are usually swarming were empty. Now the spiders are starving in their webs.
I'm a small organic seed producer and lack of pollination has seriously impacted my seed harvests this year.
I think there's been catastrophic population crashes in all sorts of different insect species and I'm not sure if they're going to recover.
There should be a Himalayan Balsam amnesty going forward to help the bumblebees recover. It's been an act of folly destroying them this year.
There surly is something awful happening , i am lucky to have an acre given mostly over to natural habitats and the change in 30 years is shocking , worse that 30 years ago was denuded from 30 years before that , and again 30 before that and again and again. There is a rolling forgetfulness that ruins our awareness of what's gone .
Thank you Novara for getting Dave on. Really interesting interview. Well done!
Plenty of cockroaches in Parliament.
And wasps and gammons.
Try to be funny when you have no food anywhere.
… dismissive and dehumanizing.
@@Worldgonecrazy2 cockroaches/snakes/rats in Parliament etc is a standard bot reply to so many UK wildlife TH-cam videos.
@@IanPhillipsWildlife well, are they wrong
There are plenty of maggots and cockroaches in Washington and London. On a more serious note, we really need to honestly evaluate the impacts of all agro-chemicals and their impact on the entire food chain. Anyone remember the slogan "DDT is good for you and me"?
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I'm in the Midwest U.S. and have definitely noticed that insects have been disappearing in the summer in past years in the suburbs.
The change has been really profound. In my house here I used to have to use yellow bug lights on the garage and porch to avoid them crowding around them outside especially in late summer. Just not needed anymore.
This year the crickets at night also seem to be gone. I kind of did a double take a couple weeks ago, I went into a Barnes and Noble bookstore in September and they just had the front doors propped open all day. I guess they weren't concerned about bugs flying in. There weren't any.
No more cleaning bugs off my car headlights and windshield in the summer. Used to have to do this. But then I also used to use an ice scraper in the winter, and a snow shovel. Didn't need to use either, except for one single day last winter.
Many won't miss the bugs. But will you miss the birds? I don't know how they will continue to be around with nothing to eat. idk
That was amazing. Thanks so much Dave and Aaron. I'm hopelessly ignorant with gardens, plants, flowers etc. I rent from a housing association ,but we have massive communal gardens, so I'm going to talk with my neighbours about doing something useful!
If you can get a native wildflower meadow and some log piles, you'll be off to a great start!
@@stephanietaraderby8376 Thank you!
What a fascinating conversation. Thank you ❤
Thank you for this conversation. Much needed
I live in Central London. I feed the birds, have a wormery, do not use insecticides. A few years ago, before lockdown and before that, I had wasps nesting in the ground in my garden. Lots of plants have planted themselves in my garden. KIWI, FIG TREE, AVOCADO, FERNS. I think they grew from the compost and bird droppings. I've had pollinators coming including, hover flies, bees wasps. I've had bees visiting in the winter as I have a flowering winter garden. However, this year, there is definite decline of insects!!!!!!. But woodpeckers, Jays, all the tit family, including the beautiful long tailed tits, Robins . Hoping the insects return. Too much dust and toxic debris from endless wars. I call my garden "the garden of Eden" Maybe, when we've destroyed everything it will remain????
I'm in London and I have not seen one single ant, one single aphid and most weirdly not one single 'cat flea' - every year since I've lived here 30 years had a war with cat fleas but this year my 7 Hackney moggs have been totally 'flea free' which nice but it is not supposed to be so
Nice work. I’m in west London but my kiwis all failed!
Thank you so much that was a very interesting, informative interview and I will be reading Dave Goulson's books
I’ll write here what I’ve written in several other places: I drove to Paris in the Summer, within minutes of driving off the ferry, it was clear that across the channel there are still enough insects around to be spattering the windscreen and front number plate (enough to need to wipe it down). Obvs very sad for the insects I hit.
Whereas I also drove to Manchester and back twice in a long weekend! Without encountering very many insects at all. The pesticides that we allowed and Europe banned have been catastrophic here.
Now I know radiator grills aren’t as visible as they once were, but I remember looking at my parents Volvo when I was young which would have all sorts of unfortunate critters stuck in it after a long journey.
This was fantastic. Im always horrified at humans war against nature. I feel we have a deep fear of being just 'an animal' so go to lengths to disguise our origins. We'd all do better to remember we are all part of the same cycle.
Couldn't agree more. We, humanity as a whole, needs to understand that we are not separate from the natural world, we are part of it and depend on it.
Brilliant interview. Scary times...
🌟 fascinating, instructive, contemplative exchange 💮
Thank you. Great program! Very much needed education.
Quality interview. Dave Goulson is such a fascinating man with a vital message. The only problem is now Aaron is going to have to explain to Michael what insects are! 😆
What an excellent and informative programme, thanks a lot
My brother would love it here. He has a phobia of insects especially flying ones. Since I moved to the UK one of the first thing I have noticed was the lack of insects. Back in Hungary we have a wide variety but here is much much less. Mosquito is also way less (I love that). So I agree it is odd and maybe a precursor for something sinister.
That pesticide free town? My and Jack Layton's hometown. Hudson Quebec. Also ZERO chain restaurants. Which believe me is even more important!:-)
Thank you for a wonderful video.
But in my wild garden the slugs are doing very well (understatement), consequently not my vegetables.
Hardly any bees , noone but me grows flowers really, but even so , drastic drop since 2019 .
I would imagine the grey stripy sky and dodgy rain haven't helped.
Total lack of ground bees . Not seen woodpeckers this year either.
A lot of wild flowers over the meadows were missing this year too.
I saw basically 0 butterflies in my garden compared to last year, it's very concerning.
High stratosphere aerosol injections
Thank you for this interview!
I'm an adult and I love insects 😊
Thanks for inviting Dr Goulson.
I would love to see an interview with a Biologist willing to discuss population and Malthus.
Malthus is so misunderstood and demonized, but his science is sound. Acknowledging that does not mean you are a Social Darwinist out to cull humans.
Important topic.
The offal one is a terrible suggestion when it comes to iron. Loads of vegans I know, including my wife had anaemia prior to becoming vegan. The most likely cause of that is that dairy inhibits the absorbtion of iron. She also had athsma which went and the main culprit again is dairy.
From an environmental perspective also, we'd need 75% less farming land, if everyone stopped consuming meat, dairy and eggs. Imagine rewilding that land with trees etc.
There is a a concept of food miles and it says two main things. Firstly that animal products are transported at least as far as plant products. Secondly, the movement of food accounts for less than 5% of its production environmental impact.
You should also try to get people like Nate Hagens, Daniel Schmachtenberger, Steve Keen, Simon Michaux, Art Berman or Bill Rees on your show.
Love all those people, yes please! Especially Nate and Bill.
I'm sure everything will be solved with more market based solutions and austerity
Thanks, excellent conversation. Gonna read the book.
The insect extinction is a tragedy. I remember summers in the 1970s in NH, beetles and moths would cover the screens on the house every night, the fields and woods were literally crawling with tiny life. I ache for the loss.
odd patch of silence for 15 seconds about 70mins in
A conspiracy theorist could surmise that it was an attempt by Beyer to censor some important information about their Roundup poison...
Yes I wonder if this topic is too dangerous for big-ag and hidden powers interfered?
Most farm land in Britain is used for meat production. Diet is going to have to change for a significant amount of rewilding to occur.
In British Columbia 3 years ago the temperature rose above 46 degrees and stayed around 45 for about a week! Hundreds of people died and it was devastating to small animals and insects. The forests were ominously silent the next year! This year has been much cooler and the insects and birds have made a noticable comback but I can imagine how bad years back to back years can wipe species out! (Including the dumb genocidal ones)
Surprised not to have permaculture mentioned at any point. Also, although he did defend ‘weeds’, I think it’s important to actually challenge the euphemistic terminology often used in gardening, ie. ‘tidying up’ meaning ‘exterminating’
I guess I'm the exception but I like insects. It took me going vegan to think about where to draw the line and why. Why should we act like insects don't have value too?
Most people think cats and dogs are great, and that's it really. This culture is quite dim and callous.
I'm such a Dweeb my favorite movie is Noting Hill. I loved the private garden inside the wall. Know not supposed to like lawns but was so immaculate couldn't help but cry.
Thank you for this important piece.
Glyphosate does persist in the body and soil. The system disruption used for plants is the same of our gut micro biome, it changes the composition of fungi and bacteria in the soil and our intestines with severe consequences for both... and yes is carcinogen at doses currently suggested as safe in Europe. And they spray it in children schools, children gardens etc
Heading into winter with 5 hives, up from 2 in the spring. Fingers crossed they all get through.
I have been wiped out hundreds of times since birth, this is good one
Grass and plants around the base of a smaller, newly planted tree will inhibit its growth i understand. That is why such trees are mulched. I don't think it affects larger established trees.
Yes grass can inhibit the growth of a whip (a 2-3 year old tree), putting mulch around them gives them a much high chance of survival. Of course they can grow with grass around them but the odds are less in in their favour. I and all of the groups I work with always use mulch when planting trees.
Sod the insects, what about the shareholders?!!
Don't be fooled, Billy. If a centipede ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you care about!!!
Loved this very educational conversation ; thankyou. Many years ago, a hawkmoth flew in through an open window one evening and unfurled its proboscis to sip from some spilt drops of Vimto (I'm not sure the drink, Vimto, is made any more). It hung around for a couple of days and then left, we presume, the way it had come in.
What a unique topic. I always thought of most insects as the antagonists until I had a compost bin.
Ultimately, it has to do with the soil - maintaining (or restoring) the quality of the soil by the use of dung and compost and sustainable methods. Artifical fertilisers feed the plant, not the soil. Healthy soil makes healthy, nutritious plants and - potentially - healthy animals and humans . . .
I have become an avid gardener in the US. My husband and I have worked hard to build up our garden. My first love is growing flowers and harvesting seed. We have created quite a biodiverse ecosystem in our backyard. But the past couple seasons I’ve been more fascinated in discovering all the new insects, bees, flies, spiders, etc. I saw and video taped a leaf cutting bee cut a round chunk out of my first Lisianthus bloom. It took 8 months to grow the flowers. I was so fascinated! Most would go to poison to protect their flowers. I did not. I protect some of the buds/blooms with mesh bag and left some for the bees. Same with my roses. Everyone was freaking out about the aphids this year. Where I was patient and waited for the ladybugs to come. Which they did! And they took care of the aphids. If we just allow nature to do its thing, we don’t need to poison everything. 🐞🪲🐛❤
Continued striving for economic growth and environmental damaga go hand in hand.
Oh dear Aaron. You claimed that there is no known example of where over generations, people didn't eat animal products. Jains, are one of the oldest known religions, and they don't eat meat, fish or eggs (yes, I think they drink milk). There are millions of adherents. Buddhists are not supposed to eat meat, although the position on that is more nuanced, and variable between cultures, and it was for a period the major religion in India. I am not even an advocate of never eating any meat, we just need to eat far less of it. But please get your facts right. It's good that you appear to have started taking on some more ecological concepts on board. However, your conception of trophic cascades, is a bit limited, and mistaken (I'm an ecology graduate).
PS. Edit - Also your claim that at this latitude we have to eat meat, is bizarre. Many pulses will grow in Britain. You're arguments might be true, if Britain was in the Arctic Circle, but it isn't. Remember, me saying the Buddhist position on eating meat is more nuanced. Well I have been a Buddhist of sorts for a long time, and read much of the scripture, the tracts by scholars. It is recognized that in certain parts of the world, at high latitudes, or high altitudes, it may not be possible to avoid eating meat, other living creatures. But really your arguments are very poor, and you are spouting livestock farming, propaganda, as fact. As I say, I have no side in this, no absolutism. I am solely interested in sustainability, and I have over 50 years experience, thinking and reading about it. You need to be a bit more cautious about what you think you know. Same as your stuff about flying and driving cars, the problems with greens. Do you know that only 18% of the global population own a car. That over 80% of the global population have never flown at all, or not recently. Even in the US and UK, nearly half the population have not flown in the last year. So your arguments, are from a certain, Western, developed world perspective. Believe it or not, a lot of environmentalists are very highly educated and well read.
There are issues with what you say and the precedent you are setting saying environmentalists are well read.
Drinking milk, using manure for crops, the animals for draught power to plough the fields and leather for sandals or dried dung for cooking fuel, fats for candles.. One of the biggest misconceptions I found while vegan was meat is around 50% of the conversation and we use 99%, talking about just diet leaves out the most energy dense products. No culture has avoided the use of animals and fertiliser use for human designed crops is far more tonnage than cattle and their crops.
Britain with a slowing AMOC is going to become less arable, less crops and more animals will become the norm, imagining a world where 50% of the nitrogen is from fossil fuels and those are running out.
Let's talk about insects, 99.97% of the mass of the atmosphere is only 100k or 62 mile high and all our insecticides are in this area, if 3% are vegan, a 3500% change in numbers would wipe out what insects we have left.
You calling the logic of one system being replaced by another, livestock propaganda and the fact you consider yourself being well read could be part of the problem. All data you have regarding meat has all emissions of the whole animal put onto the meat, then compared to crops per kilo, that make it to market. This ignores all the crops that don't make it to market and as far as crop waste, we feed more crop waste to them from human crops than food we grow for them which is why chicken and pork is so cheap and barely moved in price.
You do need to be more cautious because we are now talking about you being wrong, meat because it is mostly on non arable land with very little inputs, is the most sustainable and environmentally cleaner but I want you to consider the knowledge you have is because you have been given it and you should wonder if it's a food company behind it all and another thing to consider, methane has a life of around 80 years, I couldn't find the numbers for UK, but the US, cattle numbers are roughly the same as a 100 years ago, meaning cattle for that long have added no extra warming, considering they had so much bison as well, methane warming hasn't increased in USA since veganism became a term. If a tree is carbon neutral then why isn't a cow? Whereas the carbon that is coming from a stored source for tractor diesel stays in the atmosphere for 10,000 years, people say methane warming is 28 times over 100 years, but if the methane is gone after 100, then is it 14 times over 200 etc, shouldn't the warming times be comparable and then you would see co2 is far worse.
Going carnivore is much better for the environment, sorry.
@@antonyjh1234I'm not a vegan, I'd just like to preface my comment by saying that, but the scientists in this video has said simply by eating less meat, or rather, less red meat, it would be a significant amount better for the environment.
@@antonyjh1234 I'll take the scientists in the videos word on it, not yours, sorry. As I said in my last reply, I'm not a vegan, but he said it would be significantly better for he environment if we all simply ate less red meat. So no, going carnivore isn't better.
But I'll listen when you show me the empirical evidence in peer reviewed scientific journals, that you've published, which backs what you're saying.
Enjoy
@@Documentary81 You want empirical evidence that animals on land we don't spray, has less sprays? Ok I was a vegan and I have studied this for 30 years but ok you'll listen when logic takes over, not a biased study that you never read. You too.
@@Documentary81 you used the same empirical evidence crack twice, cattle are on non arable land for the majority of their lives around the world and we get much more than food... but how about this, why not do the smart way of doing things? Because you believed in empirical evidence, you must have it at hand to show all the products we get from animals can be replaced with less inputs? You must have this because this is the only way you believe things, right? I want evidence, anywhere that you can point me to where the study ISN'T all about meat, if you can find me any study, just one, that lowers inputs/emissions for ALL that we get I will go back to being vegan.I will change my whole life again, can't be fairer than that now can i ? I will wait..
We will own nothing and we will not even have bugs to eat. I hope the agony will not last long for us.
In plymouth where l live we have a little wooded valley between two housing estates, one side of which was felled due to some desease of the pine trees and left to rewild. Out of the way of traffic of any kind and miles from any farms, unsprayed by anything it is very popular with some dog walkers yet still is remarkably devoid of most insect life bar the occasional cabbage white butterfly or lonely bee. As a man of seventy three l can remember when the summers here positively hummed with life in the sixties and find the contrast with today appocalyptic. This valley is so cut off that l can't help thinking it must be something else as well, maybe cloud seeding or mobile phone usage to name a few other suspects.
I grew my 36th organic garden this year and it's clear that the insects are declining. I live in an opening in the woods and this summer there were no slugs, no mosquitoes, only cabbage moths, very few ants and the June bugs didn't emerge. I found grubs but there were no actual June bugs. It was very odd. Normally I can't go out in summer without protection from mosquitoes. This year I was leaving the doors open for the dogs to run in and out. Scary really..Eastern Canada.
You can do Safaris at Knepp also you can Glamp at Knepp as well. We have released Big Cats seen in several counties in England so we could have Wolves.
Most bird species of birds, including seeding eaters, mainly feed insects to their young, either adult insects, or their larvae, caterpillars.
Aaron, please. The "meat is vital" and "food miles" arguments are funded heavily by the animal ag. industry. These are industrialised-world tropes. Just ask any one of the world's two billion Hindus whether meat is essential. Just look at the traditional East Asian diet, where billions live mostly on plant foods, with meat as a rare "ceremonial luxury", or sparingly used as a flavouring. By the way, what Chinese restaurants serve here has little relation to what the average person in rural China eats! And when western diets (meat-heavy convenience food) are introduced via globalisation, these previously trim and healthy people suddenly become fat and sick. I've seen this for myself in Taiwan; only slim and healthy looking people in rural areas where rice is the staple, and evermore fat people in the cities where western convenience food has arrived. Nobody needs to eat meat, fish, eggs or dairy, and everyone reading this has the choice to avoid it whilst living in fine health and enjoying tasty food.
Deers need a natural predator to keep their numbers under control as their numbers are doing an incredible amount of damage.
Gardener here, my biggest ally is dwarf comfrey, its incredibly easy to grow, spreads quickly so keep it hemmed in where you dont want it to go, but look up the benefits, i can think of 9 but dont want this comment to become a book
I like my lawn I don't use weed killers peticides and the cuttings aren't removed leaves are just mown in.... its staying thanks its been a lawn since 1860 it will remain one until I have gone despite being completely surrounded by farmers fields that are sprayed with god knows what there are lots of insects in our garden alongside a multitude of plant diversity including in the actual lawn surrounded by a mixed ancient hedge that gets cut a couple of times a year and various tree's and shrubs when they regulate to stop spraying the hundreds of acres with a multitude of toxic chemicals surrounding us I may consider making more effort until then I will enjoy my lawn thanks while I still can.
It seems crazy that this carcinogenic herbicide should be banned but yet processed meat is a carcinogene and this guy eats chicken burgers... The world is upside down
You turn upside down what actually was talked about.
Rewilding grouse moors would be a major step in reversing this decline. Throw in fens in areas that regularly flood and we could see a major increase in insects.
Yet another video discussing climate change.
Just started watching, but I'm gonna go on a limb here, and I hope I'm gonna be wrong, but I bet that meat eating, one of the main causes of climate change due to the Animal Farm Industry (the only option available to feeding the world in a mass scale besides veganism), will not be discussed because this is the elephant in the room most climate activists ignore when the issue comes up.
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Well, there you...it's a willful overlook of the climate activist's own behavior.
It's severely disappointing isn't it? A plant based diet is easy. It's a piece of piss. It's the very least someone can do for the environment in terms of effort and is likely the most impact a person can have on reducing their impact.
Yet we have people making excuses for it. For absolutely no other reason than selfish sensory pleasure. It's bonkers.
Eating plant based is better for the planet in a multitude of ways, it's cheaper, it's healthier, it poses less risk for zoonotic viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria, it's better for the economy.
It's better for all the humans around us, even if that person couldn't give a toss about animal rights.
@@DandelionGum1 That type of behavior is like screaming "fire!" while pouring gasoline all around.
I don't understand how anyone can be a climate activist and eat factory farmed meat.
You are a great interviewer Aaron, but you seem to have started channeling Jeremy Clarkson in your to camera pieces! (eeek)
I wonder if there will be extreme weather changes, like 40 degrees, to minus 40 degrees, in the same day 😱.
6th mass extinction
If you want to learn more about the cultural attitude differences towards Wolves, you need to read Of Wolves and Men (1978), by the late Barry Lopez, possibly the best nature writer to have ever lived.
I have my own little green house and grow my own foods, and have one of asda old shopping basket and have turned it upside down and under that, there are woodlice, spider and I even have a few snails 🐌 🙂
My garden is teeming with woodlice.
I'm sorry it really isn't harder to cook vegan, just buy vegan ingredients and learn to cook food you like. the only thing that arguably makes it harder is just about adoption by the general public. just get a vegan cook book and go to the plant based sections of the supermarkets, stop saying its hard to do, just do it and be the change you want to see in the world.
It is harder in the sense that you need to specifically search out particular foods for specific nutrients.
This is not necessary in a balanced omnivorous diet.
@@redflag4781You really don't. If you eat a wide variety of plant based foods, you will just get all the nutrients you need. I get far more diversity from my vegan diet than I did when I ate meat. A bit of research helps, sure - but that goes for anyone whatever kind of diet they have. There are a hell of a lot of omnivores suffering from health conditions that vegans aren't suffering from. The onus is on the individual to make sure they are eating the right things.
Thank you for telling people that manicured, mowed lawns are basically wildlife deserts. And I think they're killing the bumblebees because the bumblebees see the lawn and think they can breed there, but they end up building nests and laying their eggs without adequate cover where they are visible to birds and the birds can see the nests and eat the maggots every time.
Hi Dave, this is another fantastic interview you have done!
Can I ask what you think about satellites and their effect on insects and their ability to navigate? I’ve recently come across this and found it quite interesting. I have a feeling this is also another major cause of insect decline.
And what can we do about satellites? It’s not like we can shoot them all out of space. Or decommission them. They are kind of needed now for everyday life. But how do we go about helping insects that are affected by this?
😂 honestly don’t surprise me MPs going to events and just take selfies to look like they actually attended events when they didn’t 😂
The snails are gone, there are new green and yellow lady bugs, there is a bug at work that none of us ever see at home or around town ....? But yes, pots has changed last 2 years
Woooonderfullll!
So many good points. I need to add eating organic as much as possible to the list. To feed each of us takes more agricultural land than a garden, so with organically grown food we can actually stop toxins on a big scale, each and everyone of us!
The government needs to incorpoate wildlife into its economic models.
I live in London in the past two years I have not seen one single ant, no aphids, and no cat fleas. For the past 30 I lived in my flat with my seven cats and every I have a battle with 'cat fleas' this year no seen one not one single flea.
Your immune to the bites 😂
@@SkyNet-T-1000 I am but one of my cats is and this the first in 8 years that she is actually looking her gorgeous black self
To be fair to the domesticated dog, most instances of dogs attacking humans are generally because of their poor breeding and people mismanaging their pets either out of ignorance or in some cases deliberately.
earwigs are gaining fans in instagram, for their fabulous origami wings, and their parental devotions
I read recently that the UK is the only country in Europe, maybe the world, that has none of its large mammals.
Scientists should automatically ( as a duty ) be informing politicians of any information they have that safeguards our civilization.
47:10. I would imagine that by re-introducing an apex predator like the wolf, it would also mean that the genetic health of the deer would improve, as the wolves would naturally cull the weakest members of the deer herds. Just as the decline of the lower insects, affects the whole chain of biodiversity, because natural parasitic insects also control the over-abundance of the 'higher' animals.
It is insects vanishing that we must be worried about. True. But the more terrifying thing is bacteria that has already started to vanish. You not only know, but cannot even fathom the effect thanks to your absurd cleanliness.
Was that Aaron showing prejudice against a dog breed? If the same sentiment was shown against a human, what could that be called? Glad Dave brought some objectivity.
I have a huge dislike of insects moving to a phobia for certain things like bees and wasps. Of course for that reason I have been super-aware of the decline in their numbers, particularly over the last few years. The sudden decline in wasps has been especially apparent. It’s been nice for me during the summer months, but very ominous. Whether I like it or not, we rely on insects - even wasps.
I think it will be hard to convince the public they need to care about insects though. They’re just too obnoxious! The immediate impact of there being less of them is positive. Like all things climate change, the moment you’ll get the public to truly care it will be too late.
8 years back, I had 15 wasps nests in my roof. But, in recent years, I rarely see a wasp. In previous years, it was next to impossible to drink a glass of cider out in the open because of wasps. Now, the only insect invaders are fruit flies.
My wife has a miscarriage and is vegan, this is madness. Do you know the scientific consensus is that a vegan diet is healthy for all stages of life?
Yeah wolves would be incredible
Eating farmed insects instead of beef help save the wild insects. From an ecological perspective, it's even better than a strict vegan diet because (e.g.) edible crickets are extremly efficient at transforming foodwaste into high quality protein.
(Btw, those cranks spewing those "eat ze insects" conspiracy theories can choke on their shrimp salad.)
why does the sound go at 1:09:41?
Wolves and other predators can coexist with us if we collar them with dog training collars that activate when they come near people, property or domestic animals
It appears to me that vegetarian and vegan people don't care as much for billions of tiny creatures as they do about large mammals and birds. I hope we can find a solution.
Why do you think so?
What gives you that impression?
Aaron Bastani unfortunately does not understand the power of beans
or dried fruit
but hopefully he learned
1:21:00 Even when the government gets briefed officially by scientists specifically tasked with advising government on a specific subject, it will ignore the advice for political reasons. Remember Blair and Professor Nutt? Governments do that all the time - and not just with scientists.
Our world …..
in many ways is deteriorating.
Disgraceful ❕👀🌏👀
aw I thought Aaron was going to say lead poisioning 1:27:45
And add a short quality fact of each species to the artwork.
Regards, Viet vet/Ecologist VFP
1:14:00 is this when Aaron Bastani pivots his TH-cam activity to rants about council officers?