BPF: Kamikaze attacks HMS Indefatigable
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2016
- Footage from the British Pacific Fleet off Sakishima Gunto, including a kamikaze run on HMS Indomitable on April 1, 1945. Another clip shows HMS Indefatigable burning after being hit on the armoured deck alongside the island.
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Facing an enemy who is literally willing to die to kill you must be something else..
Every country has had soldiers who fought to the last man or who fought and died before even thinking of surrendering the only reason the Japanese are especially known for this is because of the samurai movie era where it was in ever samurai movie and novel and because of the Japanese airmen and army who would fight to the death or commit suicide before surrender something similar happend on the eastern front where both sides soldiers preferred being killed before becoming a pow and where pows where rarely taken
isnt that what war is?
@@gidi3250 were
🇺🇸 Never To Be Forgotten....
@@katherinegates1559 all forces rather,
British carriers had steel decks, very hot below deck in the tropics, but a definite advantage against kamikaze attacks.
@bry7x7x7 not American carriers like the first Yorktown or enterprise they had wooden decks
They also had armoured sides.
@@chrysler238it made sense doctrinally, the americans wanted ships that could get across the vast pacific quickly so put less armour in, the royal navys main job was to guard british coasts and the med, much smaller distances so they were more armoured generally
the British fleet of armoured carriers served with the Americans in the pacific known as the forgotten fleet. yes they was slower but what the British did and the Americans never argued and was thankful for was placing the armoured carriers closer to the mainland drawing the kamikaze to them instead of the wooden decks of the usa fleet. they was all hit all was able to take on and take of planes withing hours of been hit. the Americans was amazed seen the planes bounce of the carriers and well documented in armoured carriers
The Essex carriers also had wooden decks.@@chrysler238
My Father was an officer on HMS King George V. He was in the forward four barrel 14inch gun turret, he never mentioned much about but told me lots of details about the battle of the Atlantic. KGV's 13 x 14 inch guns fired 394 shells at the German Battleship Bismark the day after HMS Hood was sunk. After the war in Europe ended my father was offered a promotion to go land based to develop the Royal Navy's new weapon systems. He turned down the promotion to stay aboard KGV when it sailed to the far east to fight the Japanese. His main reason to go was 100% to find his brother (my uncle) who was also in the RN. His ship was sank by the Japanese in the rush to leave Singapore. And my dad wanted to save his younger and only brother. My Uncle survive the sinking but spent four years as a POW in the hell that the Japanese created building the Burma railway. My uncle weighed less than four and a half pounds, he died from in the early 1960s from health compilations bought on by the horrific treatment by the Japanese. One thing that stood out, was that the crew on the Japanese Navy that pulled the survivors from my uncles ship were very well behaved and behaved like gentlemen, fed them decent food and dressed their wounds and when the Jap' ship docked back in Singapore they wished them 'good luck'. We all know what happened over the next four years. My father never even mentioned to me that he was on the KGV in Tokyo when the Japs signed the declaration of surrender. The KGV was the ship that Winston Churchill was based on at that time. He also never mentioned to me that he did the Russian convoy's on the KGV. I have asked the relevant departments about getting the recently announced Arctic convoy medal but it has to be applied for by the eldest sibling (one of my sisters) but she is not able to do that now and the department will not let me apply... I have all of my fathers other medals, including Pacific Star and Atlantic Star....he served the Royal Navy for 32 years and then until retirement carried on developing Naval armaments and then he was a Procurement Executive at a Shore based naval establishment ASWE in the town that I was born in, Portsmouth. The RN even dragged him out of retirement in 1982 post Falklands to help replenish lost equipment and weaponry after that conflict,
I hope the brits learned the lesson of ww2, that if you deliberately fucked up another nation state in the manner of a Versailles Treaty you would sooner or later yerself be fucked up when the victim of that debgum treaty rises up and fucks you in turn. In the end you lost yer evil empire.
I read a book about Singapore where a Japanese officer warned the prisoners the camp guards were "uneducated rabble". Makes sense they didn't keep their best back at home.
You mean four and a half stone*.
KGV only had 10 14'' guns. 2 quad turrets and a twin.
Thank you for sharing that information. It's incredible what so many millions went through for our peace. If i was young today, i would try to work as a NATO soldier.
My Father was in the Royal Navy he was out in Pacific fighting the Japanese ...He was a gunner and shot the Tail off a Suicide Pilots Plane...He had been in the Royal Navy since 1926. He Served for 22.years...He was in many of the Major Sea Battles of World War Two...I have all his documents from when he first Joined the Royal Navy...
Hi..my father Stanley Reginald Lucas was on one of these carriers I believe a carrier.. can't remember which one
My uncle George Hunter was on HMS Swiftsure (cruiser) during this and other kamikaze attacks. He said one of the kamikaze came in low and ran through the fleet, passing the Swiftsure aiming for KGV. George was on the guns and said you could clearly see the pilot. Blown to bits by AAA 20 seconds later.
I was on board the H.M.S.INDEFATIGABLE in this Acrion off the island off the island of Okinawa we had a direct hit by the Kamikaze and it hit amidships on the base of the supersructure and we carried on with the action after clearing the flight deck 21 men died as a result of this Action but we never stopped and was back in Action again and save the ship which had the Armoured Plated Decks an saved us from sinking had it taken control by fire .
Thanks for sharing your experiences Harry. We see only shadowy, grey impressions. You lived it.
My dad was too , this vid matches his words exactly !
My dad was too , this vid matches his words exactly !
My late granddad served on the Indefatigable. Doug Bates.
harry thanks for your service in helping to win the war
Never ceases to amaze how any planes got through at all
Pretty hard too hit a plane out of the sky when its flying full speed at you
Flying for the emperor fills you with.... DETERMINATION.
@@zachwalker1731 yes it must be very hard, but in these videos there’s more lead than sky surrounding these ships!
@@HRHooChicken while it true it's very hard to saturate space so a tiny target may be hit, therefore what really put down planes was the shrapnel released by the time fuze.
@@silvadossantos6803 the shrapnel bursts did the really damage. I'm sure I read somewhere that the US navy gave almost 60% of AA kills to the 5" guns.
A 20mm and 40mm rounds needed a direct hit to do any damage. They worked on the principal of "throw enough shit and something has to hit"
At Okinawa, RN carrier groups were typically station on advanced picket patrols because their armoured decks typically splattered kamikazes. These was dangerous duty, and hats off to the RN chaps who manned these ships. God bless them all!
Wow amazing how they are invulnerable to Kamikazes. I guess Kamikazes are much more threatening to the armored decks than accurate well placed 500-1000lb AP bombs from Japanese Dive Bombers and also could resist Japanese Long Lance torpedoes to their hulls. Shame the Japanese resorted to dumb suicidal attacks, cause I wanna see how the effect of non suicidal attacks on their mighty armored carrier decks.
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Japan Lost
So your wanting the god that had the plan that put them through this to bless them!
Do you ask rapists victims to thank the rapists too?
@@fearnpol4938
Yes, blame him, thank him, beg him for mercy, whatever. As long as you can step up on your contrarian high horse and look down upon others as you argue your philosophically superior pov.
There aren’t many atheists when death is near.
My Dad was on the Indefatigable. He was a Pom Pom gunner. I would love to hear from anyone who served on this amazing ship with him, or with their relatives.
I like the sound of those anti aircraft guns
Слава твоему отцу . Хорошее дело делал он а то время когда мир почти свалился во тьму
Seriously!! My grand dad was a spy in Germany and visited all the "camps" after the war. He told my dad, "Remember these days. People will want to forget it ever happened."
Hi, Sarah,
I've only just come across this video featuring H.M.S. Indefatigable and your comment, so, by way of a brief reply (which I will expand on as soon as time permits! ) , my father's elder brother - my Uncle Joe - served on the 'Indy' from 1944 to post-V.J. Day as a Chief Petty Officer ('Stoker' - i.e. In the ship's engine room.)
Joe had joined the Royal Navy in 1934 at eighteen years of age and served on H.M.S. Nelson (a Rodney-class* battleship - nine 16" guns 'forrard' ) during the 'Spanish Blockade' during the Spanish civil war.
From there, he went on to serve on H.M.S. Sutton (a Town-class , coal-fired, minesweeper-sloop) initially on the pre-war British blockade of Palestine, the purpose of which was to attempt to prevent illegal Jewish immigration into Palestine**, and then, on the outbreak of war, mine-sweeping operations in the North Sea, during the course of which one of their flotilla - H.M.S. Dunoon - was lost to a mine (I've got a photo of Dunoon sinking with her crew in lifeboats).
In the last week, or so, of Operation Dynamo (the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force from Dunkirk) at the end of May, 1940, Sutton and the surviving two ships of her flotilla were engaged in evacuating soldiers of the 2nd. British Corps of the B.E.F. from the beaches at La Panne (north of Dunkirk).
Joe - like my late father - had to leave school at fourteen years of age in the first half of the '30's - during the Great Depression - as, sadly - as in the case of millions of Britons of their social class - there was no money in the family to provide them with the further education their undoubted intelligence merited.
Despite this, both Joe and Dad were very wide-read and knowledgeable about British history, politics, Natural History, as well as being highly practical from an early age, and both were physically very fit as a result of laying down a good foundation in terms of boxing and track events in their teens (this being before the concept of 'Teen-agers' had been invented, of course - 'back then', (most) boys left school at fourteen and entered the workforce where they grew up to be men in very short order through the process of 'on the job training'.
Joe's physical abilities were of such a high standard that he set a record for the 800 metres (a distance which, given that Imperial weights and 'feet, inches - and yards, etc., were the standard means of measurement at the time, has always mystified me) at (Buckinghamshire) County level which stood for years - in fact, he was an Olympic prospect at this distance whose opportunity to compete was dashed by the outbreak of war.
His ability as a boxer (Welter-weight) were also exceptional - and he won several cups in Amateur Boxing Association competitions - such an extent that there was talk about him representing the Royal Navy in this sport, however this didn't eventuate (not, as I used to believe, because he was 'too professional', but because he was regarded as being 'too dangerous' - he had an exceptionally powerful punch coupled with an almost uncanny sense of timing.
In the circumstances, the Navy turned out to be the losers because, in barring Joe on these grounds, the 'Senior Service' forfeited its only opportunity for recouping the negative consequences of Joe and his Scottish shipmate going on 'runs ashore' together at 'Pompey' (Portsmouth), Devonport (Plymouth), etc., during the course of which their ideal conclusion to a night's 'festivities' was a 'run-in' with the Navy's 'Shore Patrol' (men not generally recruited on the basis of being midgets and wimps). Joe and 'Jock' would frequently devastate those who attempted to restrain the formers' 'Wild Career', with Jock muttering his 'catch phrase' of "Another one for the Royal Infirmary" as he 'decked' one of their increasingly desperate opponents. Needless to say, none of these incidents really added any lustre to their CVs from the promotion point of view and Joe's record might have resembled a 'sine-wave' between C.P O. (Stoker) (busted twice) and Able Seaman, had the concept of a 'sine-wave' been a 'feature of the British Fleet' in those days.
In short, to compare Joe in terms of a class of R.N. ships of the W.W.2 era, one would have to consider him as a particularly heavily-armoured battlecruiser - in other words: nothing capable of out-fighting him could catch him - and vice versa!
Well, I've got to wind this up, now, but, will add more detail if you're interested.
All the best from myself - and on behalf of one of your late father's ship mates!
*H.M.S. Rodney - a Nelson-class battleship, etc.!
My dad was a Leading Torpedoman (electrician ) on Indefat igable. He survived being below decks when she was hit. I have his photos and a copy of the ships log from that time. They were with the American Fleet in Tokyo Bay when Japan surrendered.
How to survive everything:
Be cameraman
One of the most famous, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Ernie Pyle, lost his life at the Battle of Okinawa.
Nah, camera man lot died in WW2
@@2jpu524 or the camera guy on uss bunker hill who was recording aircraft landing and as one landed a bomb came loose and bounce on the deck once or twice then exploded and the camera guy who recorded it blew up
you think that? or how about fact cameraman die but camera still exist?
@@WarRobotsGameroom it was a joke
I know that many cameramans dies while doing ther job but the videos are smooth and It looks like one cameraman was recording that
we don't talk about voice recorder who's voice is in every video
我的爺爺是神風特攻隊的機場地面人員（台灣）
他告訴我，每一個神風特攻隊的飛行員。 上飛機前都是很害怕的，他們非常的害怕。
打最後的電話回家時，還會哭泣。
即便如此，他們還是會上飛機，踏上那條死亡之路。
戰爭的表面是勇氣，背後卻是悲劇。
願世界永遠和平。
They (The Kamikazi Airmen) were all very brave men, but hideously used in the most brutal, needless & futile of ways! Despite dubious & spurious justifications on the grounds of callous patriotic & religious duties & honour towards their so-called, godlike-Emperor, they were all sent to their deaths, especially when their military & political leaders knew perfectly well that the war had been already lost for Japan! Their leaders’ pride or hubris could not face, what was then for them all then, the absolutely intolerable but, nevertheless, inevitable & unacceptable reality of total defeat & surrender!
When viewed from an objective, historical perspective, It was therefore, nothing else but just a cynical & futile gesture, on the part of Imperial Japan’s cabal of criminal-leaders (Including their disgraced Emperor, Hirohito!), but it was also a cynical, criminal & terrible waste of the ‘Flame of Humanity,’ Youth by them too, along with the vast retinue of crimes, atrocities & outrages that these war criminals & so-called leaders via their orders, wrought on all humanity across Asia by their barbarous & inhuman yet calculated acts, & the ensuing, hideous conduct of their Forces during this period of time!
Japan 🇯🇵 has suffered ever since for the absolutely unnecessary, avoidable & callous waste of their precious & irreplaceable, young-lives!
The dropping of the two Atomic Bombs were hence fully justified especially when viewed that it shattered any notion of Japan’s then held that they could stave off ultimate defeat by deploying such tactics (The Kamikazis) & then let common sense & reason prevail by these new huge weapons imposing reality & peace upon them all then!!💐🇬🇧🤝🇯🇵👍🕊
Many respects to you for sharing that personal story, My grandpa my moms dad was wounded in Lusan in 1945 guadal canal battle.
@@masterdisaster1972🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇸
When I was a kid such battles always took my fancy but with time and life experience now I understand what these men have gone through. War is not a good thing for human beings. But those who participated in the war has my respect.
It's not a good thing. But they always prepared
Agree with the opinion .
@@Dieselpowermusik Wong jowo yo?
Jesus the unique British octouple bolfors gun sounds amazing
Gotta love the Pom Pom.
I think that is Chicago piano not a bofors
You mean Vickers Pom Pom
@@rilangaldiril4033 the Chicago piano was a 4 barreled 1.1 inch (28mm) anti aircraft gun. It was essentially replaced by the Oerlikon 20mm AA gun.
@Pedro Vaz
Exactly. Who knows what that is actually audio of.
The BPF was one of the UK's strongest strike forces, even though it was only estabished in late 1944. Read the excellent account by David Hobbs of the 'Forgotten Fleet'. My grandfather served in both the Atlantic and Pacific, including the Russian convoy runs, and I still have his notes after he did a gunnery course, with pencilled-in remarks of the lead angles and distances for all the different aircraft that attacked him. He took his job very seriously!
"The Kamikaze Hunters" by Will Iredale is also a good book about the BPF
Very Serious. .Ship go Down..Your a Goner. .
@@jamie_edwards7090 я тоже участвовал в этом жестоким войне и попал в плену у немцев и 16 лет прожил в Германии через Турецкий посольство вернулся домой и у меня есть много ордена и медали 🇦🇿🇦🇿🖐️💞💕. А вам спокойно жить и дружно общаться с людьми!!! 💕💕❤️😀
@@aminmammadov8597 bullshit
Them Russian convoy runs into the Arctic were no joke , not only fighting the German uboats but fighting the weather also .The water from the ocean spray would instantly freeze on the ships and make them top heavy so brave souls would have to go out into 40 foot seas to smash ice of the ship so it wouldn’t roll over!!! That’s when Americans and there alies were true heroes.. Nothing but respect for the Brits who kept the Nazis at bay the Royal Air Force had some of the best fighter pilots ever in their Spit fires and their Hurricanes!!!
When I was in secondary school, I was taught by one of the people who developed the guns used against kamikaze attack on British ships!
To this day I see shocked expressions when I point out that the Americans were not the only ones who had to endure these attacks.
They're astonished to hear that the British were there with us in the closing months of the Pacific War. Carriers, Battleships, an entire fleet.
I'd say 99% of Americans have never heard of the BPF, or Task Force 57.
I knew they were there. It was the least they could do after all we did to keep Britain afloat against the Nazis in the early stages of the war. The Americans still bore the brunt of the Kamikaze attacks by far.
@@johnlee1297 "Least they could do".
Not funny.
The Commander of the US Navy, an Anglphobe named Ernest King, absolutely refused to consider ANY British presence in the Pacific. But Roosevelt overruled him.
In King's presence.
And as far as I know, Nimitz was in favor of the Royal Navy's participation.
As to the back-handed comment about the early stages of the war, you're damn right we helped keep them afloat.
We did so because it was in our interest to do so. Roosevelt wasn't stupid he knew US entry into the war was going to happen if for no other reason that he knew Germany had the capability of building an atomic bomb. And every German killed by the British was a German the Americans didn't have to face. There were plenty of influential Americans who, in the early stages of the war, were trying to decide whether or not to fight Hitler or do business with him.
@@rivco5008 Did you ever hear the comment Nimitz made to Bruce Fraser, after their first meeting, as recounted later by Fraser. “I remember very well when I first went over to see Admiral Nimitz in Honolulu. At the end of our talks I was congratulating him on what the American fleet had done. He said, “Yes, I think we have done very well. There’s only one thing we envy you, and that is your British traditions.” I was very surprised and said, “Do you really think so, Admiral?” “Yes,”, he said, “it’s the thing you've got which can neither be bought nor sold. Guard it with your lives.” I always remember that. Wonderful thing for an American admiral to say.”
In strictly military terms, the US Navy did not need any help from the BPF, but on the British side there was, among the senior officers at least, a belief that the Royal Navy needed to be there as a matter of honour.
In the event, Nimitz & his subordinates appear to have developed a respect for Fraser and Rawlings, and there is no doubt that this was reciprocated. After the war, Admiral & Mrs. Nimitz stayed at Rawlings' home in Cornwall as holiday guests, and Rawlings was later invited by the US Navy to be a pall-bearer at Halsey's funeral. Although greatly honoured, Rawlings was by then too ill to attend.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 I had not heard of this conversation but it is not surprising that Nimitz expressed respect and admiration for our British allies.
It was certainly right and proper for the RN to be there with us in the Pacific, in strength, once Germany capitulated. In fact, they began shifting units to the Pacific even before Germany surrendered. They also had a score to settle with Imperial Japan.
The British sent only modern, effective units and imo the US Navy was glad for their help.
It is true that the British had to build up their supply chain at short notice to deal with the great distances involved but they made it happen.
After all they had been through it would have been understandable for them to say let the Americans finish this up, but they didn't become the preeminent world naval power by operating that way.
Has the British apologized to the tormented nations that suffered in the colonies
Interesting knowledge that kamikaze attacks did serious damage to US carriers where as when HMS INDEFATIGABLE got hit by a kamikaze the flight deck was only dented by 3 inches which is why armoured flight decks are the smartest decision you can have
Crazy to think this was only 76 years ago.! Not that long tbh
I started thinking similar myself. At school ww2 was ancient history....a million years ago. But recently I started realising that I was born in 76 and it was only just over 30 years before. For a kid born today the 1st Gulf war will be the same amount of time ago.
I think the reason ww2 seems so long ago is that technology moved on so much in such a small amount of time due to the war and cold war afterwards. Military equipment was obsolete in a few years. Korea in 1950 to 53 was fought with planes and tanks that would've annihilated anything from 40 to 43.
It's often been said that without ww2 and cold war it instigated, Spitfires would've been flying into the 70s. The home computer revolution of the 70s and 80s would probably be today's kids' reality. Internet would only just be getting going now probably. So as a kid in the 80s the 40s seemed so much longer ago than they really were.
My late father in law was on HMS Impacable in the British pacific fleet.
He wan an observer flying in the Fleet Air Arm and rose to the rank of Lieutenant commander.
Yes it was a forgotten fleet and in some cases a forgotten war when VE Day was celebrated, the chaps were still fighting in the Far East, their war wasn’t over..
One thing he said was if an American pilot ran into trouble and has to land on the British carrier, the FIA officers took charge of him and declared that the “trouble” would take “oh at least” 2 or 3 days to fix, so they could get the yank drunk etc as the American ships had no alcohol.
He never forgot the things that the Japanese did to downed FAApilots and crewmen.
The idea of jollying up the yank airmen before sending them back is both hilarious and heartening in the most sincere way
I loved reading this - cheers
It's great adding the soundtrack... And I appreciate the "gaw! Stone ver Crows". Nice touch!
God no! Sound like something lifted from a music hall comedy show.
People didn't swear the same when the world was black and white. Cor blimey Guvnor...
Anyone for a a cuppa ?
This is just a stupid addition
Stone the Crows is an Australian saying ? funny it should be in this soundtrack
I recently found out my grandfather served abroad the black prince during this theatre, I am very proud he never spoke a word of it to any of us
Why
@@ismiismael because its a hell no one wants to remember
They had to destroy the plane to stop them from hitting the target. Literally had to disintegrate the plane. The stress must have been unimaginable. The USS Texas stayed at battle stations for 50 straight days. The sacrifices these vets made for all of us is something we will never be able to repay.
Texas is a helluva ship.
The British "Pom Pom's" are interesting anti-aircraft guns.
Pom Pom is are?
XXXXs are.
But very effective.
⅚y_t
0:41 ポムポム砲です。
The Vickers QF 2-pound Pom Pom is a machine gun developed in England in the first half of the 20th century. Like the QF 1-pounder and the QF 1.5-pounder of its predecessor, it was commonly known as the Pom-pom.
I remember seeing an official form in Britain 40 years ago which seemed to offer special dispensation for ex-servicemen who operated Bofors guns (pom-poms?). For reasons of later life deafness, I believe.
Rest in peace both soldiers
Piece
Fantastic footage there.My Grandfather was a Chief Petty Officer on HMS Kent in the BPF.
Commander: "Enemies are coming!"
Cameraman: "Ah sh*t here we go again"
👍👍👍👍👍salute to all the soldier who fought and die for their country ..r.i.p god bless all
Salute to all the soldiers who fought and died for their country and killed other soldiers who fought and died for their country. R.i.p God bless all.
And the Oscar goes to... the bravest videographer!
i know right ... i wonder what the ratio was
Combat cameraman.
I was looking for some action but this surprise me it is for me the best footage of the British fleet this really awesome thanks !!..
The Octuple AAA is an amazing looking bit of kit.
Unlike USN carriers, RN carriers had an armoured flight deck so when the kamikazes went for the flight deck all the sailors had to do was sweep up the mess and get back to flight operations.
"Aw bloody hell lads, another kamikaze got through, we just painted that deck after the last one, get the brooms!" I bet that got said. our carriers were tough with having those armoured decks.
Oddly enough ... something like that was said aboard HMS Formidable. After a kamikaze attack, they had just finished scrubbing the island with hot oil (to protect the exposed steel) and repainted it when the ship was hit by a second kamikaze. They didn't have enough paint to do it again, so she sailed into Sydney harbour to have her buckled deck armour plates replaced with a somewhat less than crisp appearance ... (there are pictures)
My respect goes out to those crews. My grandfather served on the AA Cruiser HMS Cleopatra in the Med and reading his diaries having bombs dropped by the Italian Air Force and Luftwaffe was scary enough but having a kamikaze coming straight for the ship must have been downright terrifying.
Japanese kamikaze plane attacks did sink some allied ships near end of ww2 in Pacific but were very costly to the Japanese with many planes and men lost. The game was almost up for Japan at this point
True, the Japanese were unaware of our proximity fuses used by Allied forces, at least up to the point of Guadalcanal.
My granda was on this ship at the time. I remember him telling me about the kamikaze attacks.
The sailor calm like it’s another day at the office..
Strange as it may seem, you HAVE to be. You have to keep a grip on things and concentrate on the important stuff, you can't afford to go off in a panic.
They have the weirdest names of ships...
but they are creative
They arent that weird, look at the Americans Lexington, saratoga and other names ,I think they arent and you arent use to ship names
„Die Briten sind anders“
@@khonwang6263 most of ship names are noun. But the Brit ships are from adjectives. Deep English adjectives. Which sounded strange to me...
@@edilbertorivera3467I think you aren't use to naval things
Destroyer:I'll desroy you
Japanese Fighter:I know but you're coming with me
Wow that must have been terrorfying being on the the receiving end of Kamikaze, with all the AAA going up i'm sure you would normally be happy just driving off the attacking aircraft, but these boys just kept coming regardless of the odds, very brave men on both sides. As a side note i wonder what the life expectancy was on the AAA gun barrells with that kind of relentless hammer
A lot of the gunners ended up deaf
“Stone the Crows!” I remember my Grandpa used this expression when we were kids. Tail gunner, Lancs. I never heard anyone else use this expression. WW2 era language.
My Uncle was a 20 year old Oerlikon gunner on HMS Victorious aircraft carrier,part of the British pacific fleet,it was hit three times by Kamikazi strikes off Okinawa,my Dad told me after the war his brother came home with a very bad stammer which lasted about two years,then one day it just went,my Dad said he only saw his Brother once during the War,my Dad was serving with the Colstream Guards fighting in Europe,bad times for families.
I hope to do a veteran's memory video on HMS Victorious' kamikaze experiences soon.
@@ArmouredCarriers Thats great,would be most interested in watching that.
It was great to have sound as well.. i even got to hear the cockney sailor saying "cor blimey, stone the crows. What I always thought was said in old movies..
Hahaha that so cool.
The grouping of the 40mm is impressive
My father was on HMS Indomitable during the attack on HMS Indefatigable off Okinawa early on 1st April 1945 - in the ADP (Air Defence Post) - and my dad told me the attacking Kamikaze first strafed his ship (seriously wounding my dad) before then climbing and then diving on the Indefatigable hitting her on her flight deck where it joined the bridge superstructure. Her armoured flight deck saved the ship from significant damage and she was soon back in action.
I joined the Indefatigable in 1953 as a junior seaman. The first thing that I was shown was the scar on the ships superstructure where the Kamikaze had struck. I was told that it was the first British warship to be hit by a suicide pilot.
R.I.P
My uncle was on HMS Indomitable, a sick bay attendant.
Maybe he looked after my Dad after he was wounded!
One of the carriers struck by kamikazes, HMS Illustrious I think, had also been badly hit by German dive bombers in the Mediterranean 2 or 3 years earlier. Somehow she survived, and then to face the Japanese, that ship had a hard war.
She was plastered in a concentrated attack aimed specifically at her after her C.A.P. had been drawn off, even with her heavy armour she was severely damaged and struggled into Malta, still fighting her fires but was still targeted with more attacks until she could be patched up enough to escape and head for the United States for repairs.
Correct, my grandfather, was on Illustrious from 36 to 45. The bomb in the Mediterranean went through the deck and killed a number of officers and ncos...
correct... she took a pounding and yet survived.
Has that sound track been dubbed? 'Phwoar, stone the crows" !!!
Yes - its a newsreel piece so it's dubbed
Whether filmed by an attached journalist or a Military cameraman, its incredibly unlikely there would've been a sound recordist present; hence the dub
Edit: admittedly hilarious soundbites tho 😂
Harry: I salute you. That was a battle on the seas like never before and hopefully never again. You certainly honuored yourself, your family, country and your allies.
In the 60s, a doc called: "Victory At Sea" was on TV regularly; it was filmed during incredible battles on the sea. Recently, I saw some footage of a sailor speaking of a terrible WWII battle for hours that he was in during incredible heat in the S. Pacific. When it finally ended, a nearby gunner stated, "It sure is hot"; then he walked over to the rail, stepped over it and jumped in and never resurfaced. Our brave Service Personnel and our brave Allies experienced unimaginable horrors of war and deserve our utmost love, honour & respect. Now our U. S. Constitution is in jeopardy from within, sadly enough. Wake up America!
That has got to be the most stressful job for a soldier. You either hit and destroy the plane or it may kill you and your fellow soldiers. These were true men. They have my absolute and total respect.
Isn't that pretty much how wars work?
they were a LOT fucking tougher and thick skinned back then. no doubt about it, the greatest generation.
互いの信ずる所に従って散っていった、多くの日米双方の兵に改めて敬意を表します…🙀💨
You are wrong
The voice sound effects are class, not sure if they’re real , but they’re class
They are real !
Great vid, thanks. Sometimes tho, i find this narration and some others like it...tiring, even fatiguing
Haha At 0:27 when the bell rings all I'm waiting for is for a voice to announce " AND THEIR OFF" !!!!! Haha
They're*
@@howulikedemrice haha OMG You're right. Haha Thanks for the correction.
The one of the brave man on that ship is the CAMERAMEN
How effective armored decks were on this British aircraft carrier? Read this:
A U.S. Navy liaison officer on HMS Indefatigable commented: "When a kamikaze hits a U.S. carrier it means 6 months of repair at Pearl [Harbor]. When a kamikaze hits a Limey carrier it’s just a case of "Sweepers, man your brooms”
You've just got to love the bugle,circa 19 secs...."action stations!"
Those pompom guns are fucking legendary they look awesome.
As anti-aéreas simplesmente não conseguem parar os aviões
HMS Indefatigable was parked in Weymouth Bay when I was a little kid. Along with HMS Vanguard.
発想は悪くなかったけど性能がイマイチだったポンポン砲
と言うかこの映像すごいな
ilove japanese
Adi Blitar thank you!
@@wowowokome 👍👍👍
これ、ポンポン砲って言うのか笑
POMPOMじゃね？
Proximity fuze in those anti aircrafts worked flawllesly. Its invertor is really genius.
Cor blimey, Stone the crows? who the hell added this crap in
Yeah srsly who the hell just adds random audio in
Sounds like it's from a documentary or a movie
@@gidi3250 I think it sounds from some soundtrack in,I mean it's just ball shit
Nice bit of dubbing lol
@@michaeldowling1065 nah it just makes people think the atmosphere is ok...men would be screaming not speaking...oh yeah it sounds crap
Armored plated decks helped the ship survive. Also armored plate helped get it back to action fast and launch aircraft again.
Can anyone else imagine Capt Pellew still on the deck of that beast!!!
The world was so advanced even at that time.
Ακόμα δεν μπορώ να καταλάβω πως η τότε υπερδύναμη Ιαπωνία με σοβαρό οπλικό εξοπλισμό και πολύ στρατό έχασε αυτόν τον σημαντικό πόλεμο στα νερά της Ηπείρου της.
It got very close! Someone has to lose in the end. Many ships and thousands of sailors lost on both sides. Pacific was a terrible naval war. Not to mention the island hopping where there was no respite like in Europe. No towns full of supporters or supplies. Just enemy and jungle. Maybe a trip to Australia after a hard run. Anyway Japan happened to lose due to the USA being able to replenish its Naval supply faster than Japan. We built ships faster than they could sink them.
"Stone the crows" No swearing back in those days.
The 1.1"/75 AA guns originally mounted on many U.S. warships early in the war were also called 'Chicago Pianos' by their crews, same as the Brits. A friend's father served on board the USS Hornet and manned one of the 1.1"/75 mountings. He survived the war and many years later told us of how one of the young crew members manning the gun lost his cool and jumped overboard during the Battle of The Santa Cruz Islands. The USS Hornet came under simultaneous attack by Dive and Torpedo bombers and had been hit in the bridge and the bow by damaged aircraft deliberately flown into the ship. This was likely the first time Japanese aircraft were deliberately flown into a ship and would have un-nerved just about anybody.
I thought a tommy gun was a "Chicago Piano", because of how Al Capone and his enemies would play tunes for each other.
@@worldcomicsreview354several guns with the nickname
守りたい人を守る。そこに国家は関係ない!! 互いの英霊に黙祷。
Banzai.
戦う者が死んでしまったら
どうやって誰を守るんだ？
残るのは女子供だけだぞ
Damn that Heavy Armed Weapon was so satisfying to see it every shot.
My paternal Uncle was on that Aircraft Carrier as an Aircrew Flight Engineer.
NEXT MONTH IS THE ANNUAL KAMIKAZE REUNION CELEBRATION
The British carriers had bomb proof main deck, the American carriers had standard main deck.
I could watch this all day.
I knew a man that lived not far from me he was on the formidable he said although many years ago he still had nightmares due to this they talk now about PTSD but what this man went thew was something else
Those Pom Poms in action are a sight to behold.
I'd be surprised if any Americans knew there was a British (Commonwealth) naval fleet in the Pacific war, or that the fleet included 6 fleet carriers, 4 light carriers, 2 aircraft maintenance carriers and 9 escort carriers, with a total of more than 750 aircraft, 4 battleships, 11 cruisers, 35 destroyers, 14 frigates, 44 smaller warships, 31 submarines, and 54 large vessels in the fleet train.
we know it dude..some of us mericans can read duhhhhh
So um... what did they do? Not to slight them. Just curious
StroppyPoppyBallerina. Very well put stroppy, my dad was there, his service papers list service on HMS Indomitable, HMS Victorious & USS Robin. That's something else many yanks won't have heard about. Incidentally my dad was immensely proud to have served along side the Americans who he always held in the highest regard. But he was forever disappointed at the lack of credit given to, and awareness of, the British commonwealth effort. Latterly he was in 1834 Squadron Corsairs.
alan brooke the yanks didnt want us there and resisted to the point of not helping to supply us in any way.
Stephen Reynolds British guys the yanks are not your friends they wanted the world for themself,
My father served on the HMS implacable during WW2 which was the sistership to the indefatigable
The Cameraman is a legend until now in modernized
映像が残っている これがすごい重要
松尾さん 本当それ！
Cockroaches
@@okapmeinkap7311 Hello small man；)
Serving on the H.M.S.INDEFATIGABLE in ww2 in the Home Fleet and the PACIFIC i knew mot of your Dads and worked alongside of them on the flight deck we was a team but at the same time living in different mess decks so we only came together on the flight deck at work ,We all had our job to do and when ashore which was not very often we would go our different ways .that would be in Sydney Australia .
this is when the 'proximity fuse' came into action....very few if any got through after that
There is a song called "Divine Breeze" by the band The Flower Vandals on TH-cam about a Kamakazi pilot
Que esses tempos terríveis não voltem mais, pq serão muito mais crueis nos dias de hoje!🙋🏽♂️🙏🇧🇷🌍
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The gunners didnt really have much protecting in those days. Sitting almost in the open just firing.
You don't hear much about the Brits in the Pacific fighting - yet here is a substantial fleet under attack and Brits being killed
it was only in the last year of the war that they had a substantial fleet on the offensive in the pacific.
@@MrBITS101 Yes, because the battle of the Atlantic was over, which had kept the Royal Navy 'quite busy' for over five years.
@@gmansid3576
The Med took a great toll😐
Omg the Japanese had the bravest pilots and people bar none I m in total awe of their bravery especially pilots selfless young men
Bravery is wanting to live, being afraid to die, AND still going on. Setting out on a mission where you intend to die is fanaticism. I'm sure they were also brave young men, but not defined by their final mission.
@@adventussaxonum448 how do you know they were not afraid to die?
@@adventussaxonum448 if they were afraid to die they wouldn't kamikaze bruh
@@higorss
Sort of makes my point.
1:08 When the grandson of the pilot is looking for information about his grandfather, oh look at that grandfather was driving a fighter plane
Random Afghani guy
"My dad was a pilot..."
look at that Chicago piano pom pom throw out lead!
Randy Boisa my sentiments exactly
Thats not a chicago piano..thats a British 20cwt AA gun they called it "pom-poms"because the sounds it makes.chicago piano is a different kind of AA gun.U.S navy used on their ships in the early war before they cange to Oerlikon and bofors for short and medium range defense
I thought the Chicago Piano referred to the Thompson Machine Gun used by the mafia mobs in Chicago, decades before. 🤔
that also true.causing serious problm to police and federal agents.before police and feds starts using BAR lmg and thompsons mg to counter against tge mafia
My Uncle and my best mates father both served on the Indefatigable in WW11.
Even for me who knows no one among the then protagonists, this video is scaring. My grand father used to tell me that war is hell on earth for the nations' peoples involved.
Kamikazes werent as bad against British ships - thank God for armoured decks!
Had to be some brave men in those open AAA deck guns regardless of nationality to be sure.
Fuck Churchill
@@mistersimple1986 muh ebil anglos
@@mistersimple1986 grow up.
@@gravydavy4188 said the kiddy
I really like the name...
"INDEFATIQABLE"
The Pom-pom was a good system, but the Bofors of that era had almost double the effective range.
My Grandfather was on HMS Indefatigable, its amazing to see.
My dad was on HMS Newfoundland - which must've been in there somewhere.
The greatest generation---THANK YOU ALL AND REST IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could not agree more👍👍👍 our great and noble blood be they of average Joe stock or like in the first world war the aristocratic men who led in the officer ranks they gave their lives their limbs and in some sad cases their sanity for this country but their heroism has now been seen for nothing they fought so bravely, strongly with such determination and courage for a nation that no longer exists with so many units going unrecognized one example the convoy crews (PQ 17 for example ) they received more recognition from the Russians who they helped than from their own governments for so long.i am proud to say that one of my relatives who went to war was the last surviving crewman of HMS Hood and though he sadly died not long ago I think would his fellow shipmates have fought for this dustbin and tip of a nation with it's capitol a cess pool a den of inequity for a house full of corruption I of course refer to parliament NO!!! I do not think they would for a moment as I said they gave their all for a nation that no longer exists is no longer England's green and pleasant land!!! What was it for ? Freedom ? For Democracy ? What is that ? For traitors (dishonest and dishonorable politicians) only to be invaded by stealth they won us a war those Great and noble ones two of them actually and now both times we lost the peace and give in to those who hate our country our ways and traditions which have gone by the wayside now we're winning in a race to the bottom of the barrel though France is a close second at the moment😟😟my country actually makes me sick🤮..
"C'or blimey!"
"Stone the crows!"
lol
I somehow feel like the language uttered by the sailors was not so polite as that.
@@Hellhound23691 😂
The size of the various RN fleets were much bigger than the whole of the RN today
(Atlantic Fleet, Mediterranean Fleet, East Indies, British Pacific Fleet, South Atlantic Station, the Home Fleet, the Channel each had dozens of ships), not including the various Commonwealth navies that were basically part of the Royal Navy (Royal Canadian Navy/RAN/RNZN/S.A.Navy/Royal Indian Marine - Royal Indian Navy).
Plus the different auxiliaries and reserves like the Royal Fleet Reserve, the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, Royal Navy Reserve and Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve, RMAS, RNXS, RCNR, RANVR, etc.
Such a massive organisation that was the pride of Britain, but now the RN of today is just a shadow of its former self.
Sad but true Britain went from being a global empire with a formidable military in all branches to a post WW2 country with a military and other countries took there roll as world policeman. Not sure if it was inevitable but none the less political decisions had a lot to do with britains downfall. Life was for sure tough back then especially in the sea. If in the middle of the ocean with u boats and bombers strafing and ship sunk pretty bad place to be. Since WW2 I don't think any country with a big military has gone up against an equal power for fear of egg on face and potential annihilation. Even without nuclear most wars are proxy or coalition to tip the scales. I was to young to serve before we moved to Canada but my brother did 12 years in the RN, dad did 24 years in the RAF, uncles did 12 RN and 23 in the Army, grandad WW2 army 3 years and finally great great grandad the bad ass was in the boer war, crimea and pretty well anything else going on during his service. We have all the medals which will probably get donated back to England in the end where they belong as generations today don't appreciate the sacrafices other generations made.
Nothing lasts forever in 100 years if there is ww3 Russia China USA will all be broke just how it happened to us and some poor country will be the strongest in the world thats the way it goes
Kamikaze was in fact in fact a far less reckless waste of lives than sending people to war in a Douglas Devastator.
Nearly all of them were shot down without even seeing their target.
Even their AA guns sound polite, just *POM POM POM POM POM*
Its fascinating that it evolved into brrrrrrrt
And they politely killed millions around the world during the age of imperialist British Empire.
@@VashtheStampede007 Did they
@@VashtheStampede007 wrong, millions were not killed, it was the British who fought and defeated the Nazis, who were killing millions, understand? Good boy.
@selfco 81 ,
The British took over foreign lands more than 100x the size of UK.
Do you honestly think they achieved it peacefully? They massacred millions in America and India alone. Even declared war on China over the destroyed illegal opium and stole Hong Kong with gun boats . Such gentlemen 🤣