Defo, I think this new Civ being much smaller is scale and number of units will make the AI more viable . Add in three smaller games with a hard rubber band re-set , surley they cant also screw up the AI
@@jonathanbowers8964 are mods in both civ5 & civ6 that massively improve the AI at no processing cost the base game AI is so nonsensical that just giving them sensible paths is already a huge improvement but these mods also address other aspects like army management and such
It's crazy how behind the times Civ is on this, non-cheating AI has been a standard of these games for a decade at this point. Yet somehow a turn based game, something with limited possible options, can't figure it out
Civilization games seem to always release in rather mixed condition and end up amazing after 3-4 expansions and reworks. Will probably wait 2-5 years and get some bundle then.
Jumbo pixel, your dedication is immaculate. I wish my country had someone like you so that people will stop being cynical about civ 7 just because of age transition system.
Yep. I am a bit more concerned that certain key CIVs won't be there at release. Granted this will get corrected with DLCs, but looking at the roster, I think neither Russia nor Germany will be in the game at launch.
If we have to stick with the same leader through the entire game, I sure hope they give us lots of choices - if not immediately, over the first few DLC's (hopefully not as steep a price for each as the basic game - hint, hint.)
Why make plagues an inevitability instead of having them spring up organically if a city is very unhappy or very poor? Every new gameplay feature seems to be a way of forcing the game to play the same every single time, limiting what can happen diegetically. Every game you'll play through the 3 ages, deal with catastrophes, change civilisations. It just seems like the linearity of it will get boring very quickly after players figure out the patterns and begin predicting what will happen next.
So many people are mad you change civs because it isn’t historically accurate, but it is YOUR own choice if you make it accurate or not. So much doom posting by these people it’s crazy.
This is so true man. It's quite obvious that firaxis knew that some people will be angry about this, so they made all those historically accurate choice too. Now it's just a matter of choice but they still whine about it. Lol if you don't want it just don't choose it. Besides, when was civ historically accurate anyways?
I don't give a damn about historicity in the game. I'm fine with Civ being more fantasy than "realistic" I don't dislike the change in itself I think its cool that you can evolve or change your civ but it should be IF YOU WANT. I hate the inability to continue being your starting civ, that should 100% be an option as well at the end of each era. Sometimes I simply want to be "Ancient Egypt" all the way to Mars. Why is CIV 7 taking that choice away from me? Likewise, sometimes I want to be Ancient Canada. Why the hell are civs locked to eras? That's dumb. All I'm asking is for them to keep the choices we've always had. I don't see why adding new gameplay paths must mean removing previous ones
@@clemenx The whole gameplay of civ 7 relies on the change of ages, and that's just how it is! It's a freaking new game, and it changes whether you like it or not. Yeah, you can't play ancient egypt in modern ages, and they did took away that choice. But instead they gave us a choice to create my own set of civilizations in game and also gave us specialized abilities that fits the age. They also allowed us to have specific civilizations like Meiji Japan and Normans not just 'japan', 'France'. It's just how it is, and it's not something that's wrong. Every change takes out choices and give another. If you don't like it then just stick with civ 5, 6, whatever you like! It's still there you know.
But it is historically accurate. Nations have changed identity all the time throughout history. It's whether or not the change is logical based on events that lead up to the change which matters, which it seems Firaxis has put a decent amount of thought into.
Hey mate Im sorry to be random. Been following your awesome stuff and you have been really great at teaching 4x Games. I just wanted to ask you if your able to do a review on ZEPHON 4X game? Sci-fi War might not be your thing but would love your thoughts and feedback. I'm from NZ too and I find it so interesting hearing from a similar country on your thoughts, ideas and recommendation about other games especially being made from a smaller company. Who made Gladius. Please, Would be much appreciated. Kind regards
OK... but what ARE the victory conditions? How much culture do you need per city to win a cultural victory? And in how many cities? At what percentage of land area and population levels will you trigger a domination victory? Do you win a space ship victory on launch or ten turns after launch? I have questions. Where are the answers? How many victory conditions exist at all? Have they changed from previous versions of the game? If I don't understand how to win the game, no videos of gameplay will have any meaning to me. I won't understand what is happening.
Hope it's not as bad as Civ VI, where it's blitz science to keep the military upgraded, every single game. They solved the artwork issue. They solved the problem of playing as the same civ from the stone age into the future, which was nonsense. Hopefully, they solved the problems with the AI. On release day, Civ VI had the worst AI of any video game that I have ever played. It was equally as bad as Rome II: Total War. Cargo ships were attacking warships. And the AI had no understand of the difference between land and sea.
For some reason I thought there was a Future Age. Not in a Sci-Fi kind of way but something set after the Modern Age. Maybe I'm confusing the Age with something else
RIP Sid Meier’s Civilization 1991-2014 If gimmicks and goofy mechanics are all that they are going to continue to offer in every new game then I will continue to keep playing Civ IV and Civ V.
Thanks for all this detailed coverage. Unfortunately this Civ-switching mechanic is still a deal-breaker for me. I respect them trying something new. But having played since Civ 2, part of the fun of Civ is the fantasy of "What if X culture appeared early?" or "What if Y culture lasted way longer?" Without that hook, the game simply loses a core part of its identity. Doubly annoying, it's a mechanic we won't encounter until at least 3-4 hours in, on a standard game. So, it's going to happen well past the refund window. I'll wait a few years for a steep sale
Only 10 civs per age? That's weak. So when going for one civ to another, you can't change leader?!? Wth. So you're FORCED to pick non-historic leaders if playing from antiquity to modern? That's just bad design.
I think that is where they made a mistake, they should made you change a nations leader base on era and you keep the civ, so usa, you could start as lincon and end as trump would been better on my opinion
Trump is wayyyyyyyy too controversial besides he was recently reelected and has the chance to be elected again and civs seem to be based around famous and important people and we haven't had the time to see the long term effects of his decisions or the opportunity to see all of his decisions is he gets reelected this year
@@Liger8877 Denuvo is marketed as "Anti-pirate software", however, the way they go about it causes performance issues. So buy purchasing a legal copy, you are paying money for a worse experience. All this kind of thing does is discourage customers. Not to mention, Denuvo *knows* this, but is still lying and blaming customers. Also, it's straight up spyware. It's always scanning your PC, even when you aren't playing the game.
@@Liger8877 Others might be able to give you a better answer than I can, but from what I've heard Denuvo can significantly lower your computer's performance so it runs slower. I don't know if that's just while your playing the game or all the time. I think it also requires you to play only while connected to internet. That's the part I don't like as I sometimes don't have internet access. I want to be able to play my games when I can't access the internet. What else am I gonna do, read a book?
@ I watched a video about it and apparently since 2016 they’ve improved a lot and also when ever there’s performance issues it’s because the developers don’t implement it correctly and so now denuvo is going to make it easier. Also most game companies not use denuvo for me like the first year while the game is very popular then get rid of after it dwindles a bit
This isnt a copy of humankind though the changing civs and choosing is the only similarity as someone who has played Humankind, Humankind's civ changes and leader pool was designed differently
Transitions? So Ceasar can finally go through with that "gender correction surgery" and become a woman? Oh, not that kind of transition. I've spent too much time on the internet lately...
Civ 5 forever as far as I'm concerned. I hate all of the things I've seen so far with Civ 7 and it looks like it's ripe for a major cash grab along the way. Bleh
@ if you think that considering these “civilisations” to be deserving of their titles when a plethora of other, significantly more historically relevant countries and cultures are not represented, you might actually be delusional.
@ if you consider these real pillars of “civilisation” to be more historically relevant than some extremely glaring omissions like the lack of literally any Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Levantine, North African, Eastern European and Iberian cultures, your stupidity is the actual racism at this point.
@@konplayz Honestly, Buganda was such an awful choice. If they wanted a African Modern civ, they should have used Ethiopia, Zulu, Ashanti or even Zanzibar. Also, i would have replaced Aksum for either Celtic or Carthage
@@numberl6 if you consider these real pillars of “civilisation” to be more historically relevant than some extremely glaring omissions like the lack of literally any Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Eastern European and Iberian cultures, your ignorance is the actual r*cism at this point.
We got a game tutorial for a game that isn't even released yet. That's dedication.
Genius on day 1
That's advertising.
An AI that can make semi-competent decisions and doesn't have to rely on massive bonuses to succeed would be the most welcome change
Then you would need a supercomputer or each turn late game will take 5 minutes to turn over.
Defo, I think this new Civ being much smaller is scale and number of units will make the AI more viable . Add in three smaller games with a hard rubber band re-set , surley they cant also screw up the AI
The commander system looks like it will help the AI with warfare at the very least
@@jonathanbowers8964 are mods in both civ5 & civ6 that massively improve the AI at no processing cost
the base game AI is so nonsensical that just giving them sensible paths is already a huge improvement but these mods also address other aspects like army management and such
It's crazy how behind the times Civ is on this, non-cheating AI has been a standard of these games for a decade at this point. Yet somehow a turn based game, something with limited possible options, can't figure it out
I’ll keep playing civ 6.
Until this game comes out, where i might play this
Civilization games seem to always release in rather mixed condition and end up amazing after 3-4 expansions and reworks. Will probably wait 2-5 years and get some bundle then.
Innit
Yeah same
Considering the fact the Modern Age seems to end at WWII, I highly suspect that one of the DLC will be a Future Age
Jumbo pixel, your dedication is immaculate. I wish my country had someone like you so that people will stop being cynical about civ 7 just because of age transition system.
Yep. I am a bit more concerned that certain key CIVs won't be there at release. Granted this will get corrected with DLCs, but looking at the roster, I think neither Russia nor Germany will be in the game at launch.
If we have to stick with the same leader through the entire game, I sure hope they give us lots of choices - if not immediately, over the first few DLC's (hopefully not as steep a price for each as the basic game - hint, hint.)
It looks the the potential number of players and map size will be very small at launch.
I’m happy to see Roma and Waset instead of ”Rome” and ”Thebes” 😄
I’m still not sold on the game, but I think the diorama look is fantastic. I’m half tempted to buy the game just so I can stare ate the map.
There should’ve been four ages. you forgot about the Hittites, Assyrians, etc. And the bronze age collapse.
I'm hoping we can lock the age so we can have a proper long antiquity age game.
I don't want to change my civilization... period.
I hope they release a demo. I'm really gonna have to play this game to figure out to not hate it.
Why make plagues an inevitability instead of having them spring up organically if a city is very unhappy or very poor? Every new gameplay feature seems to be a way of forcing the game to play the same every single time, limiting what can happen diegetically. Every game you'll play through the 3 ages, deal with catastrophes, change civilisations. It just seems like the linearity of it will get boring very quickly after players figure out the patterns and begin predicting what will happen next.
lets wait and see how this feature plays out. I think worst case scenario it ends up as linear as previuos civ games
hope you hit the 100k till civ vii
Looking forward to this game 🎮 been enjoying yours and Ursa's videos
What happens if you’re city capped and capture a city? Do you go above the cap with a penalty; or are you forced to raze the captured city?
The city cap is not a hard limit: you can go over it, but you will just get an unhappiness modifier
I feel like it should be obvious but its a soft cap
So many people are mad you change civs because it isn’t historically accurate, but it is YOUR own choice if you make it accurate or not. So much doom posting by these people it’s crazy.
This is so true man. It's quite obvious that firaxis knew that some people will be angry about this, so they made all those historically accurate choice too. Now it's just a matter of choice but they still whine about it. Lol if you don't want it just don't choose it. Besides, when was civ historically accurate anyways?
I don't give a damn about historicity in the game. I'm fine with Civ being more fantasy than "realistic"
I don't dislike the change in itself I think its cool that you can evolve or change your civ but it should be IF YOU WANT. I hate the inability to continue being your starting civ, that should 100% be an option as well at the end of each era. Sometimes I simply want to be "Ancient Egypt" all the way to Mars. Why is CIV 7 taking that choice away from me? Likewise, sometimes I want to be Ancient Canada. Why the hell are civs locked to eras? That's dumb. All I'm asking is for them to keep the choices we've always had. I don't see why adding new gameplay paths must mean removing previous ones
@@clemenx The whole gameplay of civ 7 relies on the change of ages, and that's just how it is! It's a freaking new game, and it changes whether you like it or not. Yeah, you can't play ancient egypt in modern ages, and they did took away that choice. But instead they gave us a choice to create my own set of civilizations in game and also gave us specialized abilities that fits the age. They also allowed us to have specific civilizations like Meiji Japan and Normans not just 'japan', 'France'. It's just how it is, and it's not something that's wrong. Every change takes out choices and give another. If you don't like it then just stick with civ 5, 6, whatever you like! It's still there you know.
What's more historically accurate? Antiquity Rome evolving into France, or a Roman Empire in the modern age?
But it is historically accurate. Nations have changed identity all the time throughout history. It's whether or not the change is logical based on events that lead up to the change which matters, which it seems Firaxis has put a decent amount of thought into.
Hey mate Im sorry to be random. Been following your awesome stuff and you have been really great at teaching 4x Games. I just wanted to ask you if your able to do a review on ZEPHON 4X game?
Sci-fi War might not be your thing but would love your thoughts and feedback. I'm from NZ too and I find it so interesting hearing from a similar country on your thoughts, ideas and recommendation about other games especially being made from a smaller company. Who made Gladius. Please, Would be much appreciated.
Kind regards
@Jumbo how do you feel about the price and the system requirements?
OK... but what ARE the victory conditions? How much culture do you need per city to win a cultural victory? And in how many cities? At what percentage of land area and population levels will you trigger a domination victory? Do you win a space ship victory on launch or ten turns after launch? I have questions. Where are the answers? How many victory conditions exist at all? Have they changed from previous versions of the game?
If I don't understand how to win the game, no videos of gameplay will have any meaning to me. I won't understand what is happening.
We simply don’t know yet as they don’t seem to want to reveal anything about the modern age including the ending victories right now
@@decboy3208 Thanks. At least I haven't missed anything, then.
Yeah we only know the legacy paths of the antiquity age, victory conditions are yet to be revealed.
How is everyone feeling about this game? I'm thinking it's looking good I tried Ara but, it doesn't scratch the itch went back to civ 5 and 6
I refunded. Got fed up of menus covering all the map. Dreadful game
@@brianbrunt3636 Me too!
What do you think the chance of true start earth being in the game? Or at least come later in an update?
Hope it's not as bad as Civ VI, where it's blitz science to keep the military upgraded, every single game. They solved the artwork issue. They solved the problem of playing as the same civ from the stone age into the future, which was nonsense. Hopefully, they solved the problems with the AI. On release day, Civ VI had the worst AI of any video game that I have ever played. It was equally as bad as Rome II: Total War. Cargo ships were attacking warships. And the AI had no understand of the difference between land and sea.
6:02 When the screen turn black, I thought my PC shut off, till I saw the words lmfao
my win condition is and always will be domanation,never have i played vs players and never did i play with cultural or any other win cond.
SC(HE)ME - a mnemonic to remember the names of the victory conditions.
Why haven't you done a city skylines update yet after the huge update release??
I have - same video as the mod hack.
@JumboPixel what do you think about the update with the French region pack and patch notes.. is the game better??
They should add a historical mode that can be turned off if you want so then the AI doesn’t prefer its historic path.
For some reason I thought there was a Future Age. Not in a Sci-Fi kind of way but something set after the Modern Age. Maybe I'm confusing the Age with something else
RIP Sid Meier’s Civilization 1991-2014
If gimmicks and goofy mechanics are all that they are going to continue to offer in every new game then I will continue to keep playing Civ IV and Civ V.
I'm going to miss the turn 1 and sub 100 victory videos 😢
Romans -> Norman’s -> English -> conquer world
Absolutely love civ 6. Absolutely hate the look of this
I think it would be cool to customize a leader
i dont like the ages. it divides the game too much into three parts. do units modernize with the change of era?
Not sure about 7
thanks
Thanks for all this detailed coverage. Unfortunately this Civ-switching mechanic is still a deal-breaker for me. I respect them trying something new. But having played since Civ 2, part of the fun of Civ is the fantasy of "What if X culture appeared early?" or "What if Y culture lasted way longer?" Without that hook, the game simply loses a core part of its identity. Doubly annoying, it's a mechanic we won't encounter until at least 3-4 hours in, on a standard game. So, it's going to happen well past the refund window. I'll wait a few years for a steep sale
Only 10 civs per age? That's weak. So when going for one civ to another, you can't change leader?!? Wth. So you're FORCED to pick non-historic leaders if playing from antiquity to modern? That's just bad design.
I think that is where they made a mistake, they should made you change a nations leader base on era and you keep the civ, so usa, you could start as lincon and end as trump would been better on my opinion
Trump is wayyyyyyyy too controversial
besides he was recently reelected and has the chance to be elected again and civs seem to be based around famous and important people and we haven't had the time to see the long term effects of his decisions or the opportunity to see all of his decisions is he gets reelected this year
Unless the next change they announce is the removal of Denuvo, I'm not buying the game, no matter how good it looks.
Same here. That's a deal breaker for me.
Can you tell me why!.
I’ve never heard of denovo I know the Civ team mentioned it
@@Liger8877 Denuvo is marketed as "Anti-pirate software", however, the way they go about it causes performance issues.
So buy purchasing a legal copy, you are paying money for a worse experience. All this kind of thing does is discourage customers.
Not to mention, Denuvo *knows* this, but is still lying and blaming customers.
Also, it's straight up spyware. It's always scanning your PC, even when you aren't playing the game.
@@Liger8877 Others might be able to give you a better answer than I can, but from what I've heard Denuvo can significantly lower your computer's performance so it runs slower. I don't know if that's just while your playing the game or all the time. I think it also requires you to play only while connected to internet. That's the part I don't like as I sometimes don't have internet access. I want to be able to play my games when I can't access the internet. What else am I gonna do, read a book?
@ I watched a video about it and apparently since 2016 they’ve improved a lot and also when ever there’s performance issues it’s because the developers don’t implement it correctly and so now denuvo is going to make it easier.
Also most game companies not use denuvo for me like the first year while the game is very popular then get rid of after it dwindles a bit
Not sure what I'm more excited for... Playing civ 7 or watching JumboPixel stream the game for us!
Great video as always! 🎉
Play some civ 5. Saving £100 to boot. That's a win win
Okay bro
I am sticking to civ 6
What did they do to this game 😢 it's been awful since Civ 4
Humankind.... Why copy? Why not think outside the box and innovate. Missed opportunity
Navigable rivers?
This isnt a copy of humankind though
the changing civs and choosing is the only similarity
as someone who has played Humankind, Humankind's civ changes and leader pool was designed differently
Lests play some civ 6 shall we? Untill this come out
You're telling me Cleopatra could end up ruling the Mongolian empire? Nah 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Transitions? So Ceasar can finally go through with that "gender correction surgery" and become a woman?
Oh, not that kind of transition. I've spent too much time on the internet lately...
not funny
Civ 5 forever as far as I'm concerned. I hate all of the things I've seen so far with Civ 7 and it looks like it's ripe for a major cash grab along the way. Bleh
Still looks ass. Can’t wait to play “Zazzau” “Shawnee” and “Buganda” 😂😂
any way to interpret what you said to not be incredibly rасist?
@ if you think that considering these “civilisations” to be deserving of their titles when a plethora of other, significantly more historically relevant countries and cultures are not represented, you might actually be delusional.
@ if you consider these real pillars of “civilisation” to be more historically relevant than some extremely glaring omissions like the lack of literally any Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Levantine, North African, Eastern European and Iberian cultures, your stupidity is the actual racism at this point.
@@konplayz Honestly, Buganda was such an awful choice. If they wanted a African Modern civ, they should have used Ethiopia, Zulu, Ashanti or even Zanzibar. Also, i would have replaced Aksum for either Celtic or Carthage
@@numberl6 if you consider these real pillars of “civilisation” to be more historically relevant than some extremely glaring omissions like the lack of literally any Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Eastern European and Iberian cultures, your ignorance is the actual r*cism at this point.
Egypt turning into Mongolia. Enough said. Shit game