Best hydration pack review I have seen that provides a clear, concise description of all the capabilities and features of this pack. Great job. Thank you.
Excellent video, that only thing I would have changed is using the red or blue version, the moment when using the straps to adjust the poles needed a little bit more of exposure and when setting up the bladder. Besides that its a great video that is going to help a lot in organising the vest I got a week ago for my upcoming race.
I love everything about the Adv. Skin 12 and would highly recommend the purchase. I always disliked the over the shoulder bladder system and this under and around is awesome. My only question mark surrounding this pack is why not put some sort of closing latch or zipper on the shoulder pockets. You can tell in this video even she was like....I don't really know what to say about these. There is no way I'm putting my keys up there (even with the clip) as if it falls off the clip it's game over. If those had a zipper.....this pack would be perfection but as it sits it only gets a 9.9 LOL. I LOVE the wrap around pocket on the lower back. I use that for my frog togs and it's so nice to be able to pull that out when it starts raining and it covers me and the pack. I can pull it out and put it back 20 times during a run without even slowing down. So many amazing features on this!! Very well done Salomon. Oh...I guess there is one other thing but it's not a problem more of just a...worry. I get concerned all my eggs are in one basket with the front cord. If that ever busted it's game over for the whole pack. With my old Nathan if one strap busted at least I could finish my run/race with just one. I complaining about something that hasn't happened yet but still....I do carry an extra shoe lace with me just in case. But again...9.9 out of 10
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products!
I love that someone has put some serious thought into the vest! I love the trekking pole fixtures and the waste bag!!! I used to carry a plastic bag for my waste but I don’t need to anymore!
Thank you for this video! You put so much thought into products but frequently it can be hard to figure out the intended use for some features. This helped a lot!!
I have just bought this as an upgrade to my Active Skin 8 vest that I love. The only thing missing seems to be a pocket with a flap on the inside of the main back pouch. Might not be necessary with all the new features but it’s an obvious difference. The pocket is useful for wipes, Toilet Paper etc. If you decide to add this to next version please add velcro closures where the velcro is sewn in (glue on velcro melts in the heat and the velcro coems unstuck - trust me on this!!).
Bellissimo video! Grazie davvero. Comprato ieri lo zaino, mi stavo proprio domandando come sfruttare al massimo questo fantastico zaino. Volevo anche capire se la Custom Quiver fosse compatibile! Ottimo davvero grazie!!
Thanks for the great video! I own the vest since a couple of months and I love it! One question tough: How do you quickly change the flasks in a competition, for example in the aid station. I find it really hard to get the "new" full bottles into the vest, especially if I carry a couple of gels etc. in the front pockets! I would be happy about any tipps and hacks :) Thanks in advance from Germany, Benni :)
Benjamin, I just found a solution to that problem last week: I inflate the flaks with air (like a ballon!). They become more “rigid” and then can find their space as you push them into the pocket. After they are in place I just bite de rubber and the pressure remove extra air (so the water don’t have space to move).
Thanks for the superior product guide. I bought a ADV SKIN CROSS SEASON 15 for the cold season. It would be nice to see a product guide for that also. For me it's always very confusing how to use these smart bags in an optimal way. Thank you again.
Hi Michael! Thanks for the feedback, we will consider that! For now, you can learn more about this product here: www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/adv-skin-cross-season-15-lc11960.html#color=73801 Or contact our customer service for more info: Tel : +442035100639 (9:00am - 5:00pm, Mon - Fri) 🙂
There is a pocket behind your head to stash a thin wind stopper. They have also reconfigured the rear through pocket so it comes further to the front and is this easier to access for instance when putting in your waterproof
@@richt3993 somewhere i was reading that the front pockets (not the zippered and flasks, the one behind) is smaller now, is this true? it was so perfect on the old since i also was carrying a small glass to watch with me.... otherwise i just have to try the new one! What was strange, why salomon was chasing the design again in the last weeks...
@@GerdGuchl Its not smaller but the opening is smaller because of the way the back through pocket comes further round the side. So it can fit just as much in but a little harder to get something out that's at the bottom and towards the back of the pocker
This is literally the best vest I have ever had and it has everything my other Salomon vest/backpack were missing like only a limited amount of pockets in the front and lacking options for poles (so far I hated to take my poles out cause it usually meant I would have to take my backpack/vest off and I was also always worried that I would lose my poles due to missing fastening options). I'm not recommending anything unless I'm really convinced by the product and in this case I have to say this vest was such a good investment.
Hi, thank you very much for your interest in our products. We are sorry about the inconvenience. We are currently working on a restocking, but we don't have an exact date this time. In the meanwhile we suggest signing up on the product page to be notified when they are back in stock. 🙏
nice video, but I would like to see a handy use of the drinking bottles in front of the vest while running. If I take them out, it's not easy to get them in properly again, and leaving the bottles in and drinking with my head down does 't feel comfortable ....Looks like this vest is only for slow trailers... or people who stop their activity when drinking.
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
Completely confused now. Are you showing the new version or the old version? One might think the product photos on the website should show the new model? But that looks different to your model regarding the logo. So which is which? 🙈
I recently bought an ADV Skin 12 but the blue tags that you're supposed to pull the bladder tube through aren't there. (It doesn't help that I bought my ADV Skin 12 in blue, so I can't really see the difference between these "special" blue tags and the other blue thingies.) Can you make an update video for the latest ADV Skin 12?
Hello! Please contact our customer service, they will ask you some photos to understand the issue and they will surely do their best to help you! www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
It took me a minute to find them. I have my vest in red, still can't see them good. What I realized is that the water bladder sits between the mesh and the next solid material, that's where the hole is. I know it seems like it should fit into the pocket (of solid material) but that's not where the hole is. The next hole is up on the right side (as I'm wearing it) then the tube pipes up towards the little wide loop.
I have the 2022 adv skin 12 and quiver. It is not clear how to attach the bottom cinch with barrel lock to the pack. The only attachment point that I see is the reflective loop. Can you provide a link to a video or instructions?
Hello Mike! Please contact our customer service, they will be able to send you a guide and check the compatibility of your backpack: www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/contact
Thanks for the video. But one thing remains unexplained: why are you wearing a mens‘ vest? Is that a better match as it is bigger? are the women ones too small? please let me know thanks
Hi there! Women vests are narrower, and we have them in smaller sizes, usually they fit perfectly, but every body is different, and you can decide to wear the one you like the most! 😉
Hi Michael, they can be tricky to find. If you have this or the last version of the 12 the compression straps should be there. They are tucked inside the pocket to the side of the large back pocket so you access them for in between the layers. I hope this helps
Hello! If you have the last version you should have them! Please contact our customer service to double check with them if they can help you find the compression straps and check your pack through some photos 🙂 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
I got the 1.5 l bladder. When I lay it down, it leaks through the top. It looks like it slowly seeps through the fold. Is that a design flaw and I just need to keep it upright? Or is there something wrong with my bladder and it needs to be returned. I NEVER had an issue like this with a CamelBak bladder, and I've been using them since the 90s.
Hello! We are sorry for the problems with your bladder! Please contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to help you identify the issue! www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
@salomonTV I have a new adv skin 12 (just like the video) and I couldn't understand how to attach custom quiver to the bottom of the bag. Can you help me?
The metal hooks on the quiver go through the little black tabs/loops that are all over the pack. They are hard to install (for me), but once you get it it's amazing.
Hello! Please contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to guide you through the correct process to attach the custom quiver! 🙏 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
I've had the Adv Hydra 8 for just under 3 years now, but am now in the market for another as the front zip is coming away from the vest and I can't store my phone in there anymore. I'm also planning to do much longer runs in the future. This video was good, but it's disappointing to see the whistle is still as rubbish as on the Adv Hydra 8. I'm sure this could be rectified without tons of R&D investment!
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
Hello Taris! The ADV SKIN 12 is compatible with the 1.5 L bladder. If you have more doubts please reach out to our customer service. www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact They will be more than happy to help you!
I have neck and shoulder issues right now due to a herniated disc. I can still run, but I'm worried about the extra weight on my shoulders. Do you think this vest would be a good option?
Good video but you left out the odd way bladders are connected with Salomon trail running bags. Kinda weird little squeeze thing that doesn’t seem to stay. Please cover this in the future. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Clips work and are simple!
Hi. I just bought Adv 12 Race flag. I have a question about size. My chest is 109cm which accordingly to Salomon website is Large (from 103 -109). Is that ok or I will be better with an XL that goes from 109-118. First time using a running vest. Thank you
Hi Jorge, it depends on what you want to wear underneath, and how you're feeling on the weight and fit of the vest! We would suggest you to try both in a store and keep the one you're more comfortable with 😉
Hello! Please do not hesitate to contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to help you find the poles you need! 🙏 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact/
Hi! The Adv skin 12 is only compatible with the 1.5 L bladder: www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/soft-reservoir-1-5l-20.html#color=73180&size=29055 🙂
I have two bruises (left and right) at bottom of my rib cage after rather easy 7 mile run. From the corners of the bottom of the vest. The bruises are the size of dimes. It comes from repeated oscillation of water flasks concentrating into the corners. I believe if I had 2 inch circular pads that stuck on over the bruises, it could disperse the force over a large enough region. Anybody experienced this problem and have advice?
Hello! Normally we do not have bruising problems with the ADV SKIN 12. However please contact our customer service! They will be more than happy to help you find a solution!
For what it’s worth, I experience this as well - not bruising, but definite soreness in the area you described. I still love the pack, and I’m assuming (hoping) my body with adjust to this with time.
I had this EXACT problem when running my first marathon using ADV 5. I found it eased if I didn’t cinch the bottom straps too tightly. But it’s definitely an issue. Hoping my new (bigger) ADV 12 will not cause the same issue
Energy gels and phone pockets don't cut it. Many more pieces of gear such as gloves, types of glasses, balaclava, etc., are needed to be accessible up front based on weather and terrain area coverage. Water bladders are heavy, normally have a stench, are costly and require maintenance versus a PET water bottle with hose and bite valve located at the center of the spine. Why at the spine versus up front off center of the chest center? The spine is the center of torso rotation, the primary tool along with your arms that controls speed and cadence. Locating the normally heaviest item - water at the center of the spine virtually eliminates the side to side thrusting of the water which is what you have with water bottles located off center in the front that generates fatigue, reduced speed and endurance.
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers and quality team for consideration in future products.
Don’t you have a choice ? You can buy a bladder wih bite valve for the back and can use the pockets on the front for anything you like if you remove the soft flasks. No one said you HAVE to use the soft flasks!
@@GodzillaGoesGaga. Obviously you can do what you want. S, the question is which solution offers the best usage for varied conditions and best performance.
Best hydration pack review I have seen that provides a clear, concise description of all the capabilities and features of this pack. Great job. Thank you.
Excellent video, that only thing I would have changed is using the red or blue version, the moment when using the straps to adjust the poles needed a little bit more of exposure and when setting up the bladder. Besides that its a great video that is going to help a lot in organising the vest I got a week ago for my upcoming race.
I love everything about the Adv. Skin 12 and would highly recommend the purchase. I always disliked the over the shoulder bladder system and this under and around is awesome. My only question mark surrounding this pack is why not put some sort of closing latch or zipper on the shoulder pockets. You can tell in this video even she was like....I don't really know what to say about these. There is no way I'm putting my keys up there (even with the clip) as if it falls off the clip it's game over. If those had a zipper.....this pack would be perfection but as it sits it only gets a 9.9 LOL. I LOVE the wrap around pocket on the lower back. I use that for my frog togs and it's so nice to be able to pull that out when it starts raining and it covers me and the pack. I can pull it out and put it back 20 times during a run without even slowing down. So many amazing features on this!! Very well done Salomon. Oh...I guess there is one other thing but it's not a problem more of just a...worry. I get concerned all my eggs are in one basket with the front cord. If that ever busted it's game over for the whole pack. With my old Nathan if one strap busted at least I could finish my run/race with just one. I complaining about something that hasn't happened yet but still....I do carry an extra shoe lace with me just in case. But again...9.9 out of 10
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products!
I came here to figure our t the best way to store my trekking poles and it was very informative thank you Salomon!!
I love that someone has put some serious thought into the vest! I love the trekking pole fixtures and the waste bag!!! I used to carry a plastic bag for my waste but I don’t need to anymore!
I wondered what that odd thing was. I've had mine for two years and have been discovering something new every four months.
Thank you for this video! You put so much thought into products but frequently it can be hard to figure out the intended use for some features. This helped a lot!!
I have just bought this as an upgrade to my Active Skin 8 vest that I love. The only thing missing seems to be a pocket with a flap on the inside of the main back pouch. Might not be necessary with all the new features but it’s an obvious difference. The pocket is useful for wipes, Toilet Paper etc. If you decide to add this to next version please add velcro closures where the velcro is sewn in (glue on velcro melts in the heat and the velcro coems unstuck - trust me on this!!).
Mine is coming in the mail Monday. Can't wait
How are you getting on with it? Zips still good?
Your hands are full.. great work, thank you
Bellissimo video! Grazie davvero. Comprato ieri lo zaino, mi stavo proprio domandando come sfruttare al massimo questo fantastico zaino. Volevo anche capire se la Custom Quiver fosse compatibile! Ottimo davvero grazie!!
Where can you buy the elastic loops?
This is such a GREAT product presentation 💌
Thanks for the great video! I own the vest since a couple of months and I love it! One question tough: How do you quickly change the flasks in a competition, for example in the aid station. I find it really hard to get the "new" full bottles into the vest, especially if I carry a couple of gels etc. in the front pockets! I would be happy about any tipps and hacks :) Thanks in advance from Germany, Benni :)
Benjamin, I just found a solution to that problem last week: I inflate the flaks with air (like a ballon!). They become more “rigid” and then can find their space as you push them into the pocket. After they are in place I just bite de rubber and the pressure remove extra air (so the water don’t have space to move).
Thanks for the superior product guide.
I bought a ADV SKIN CROSS SEASON 15 for the cold season. It would be nice to see a product guide for that also.
For me it's always very confusing how to use these smart bags in an optimal way.
Thank you again.
Hi Michael! Thanks for the feedback, we will consider that! For now, you can learn more about this product here: www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/adv-skin-cross-season-15-lc11960.html#color=73801
Or contact our customer service for more info: Tel : +442035100639 (9:00am - 5:00pm, Mon - Fri)
🙂
Excellent video
Great editing 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
hello salo! what exactly have been updated here to the old version of the ADV12? Or is it the same? Thank you!
I am also keen to know
There is a pocket behind your head to stash a thin wind stopper.
They have also reconfigured the rear through pocket so it comes further to the front and is this easier to access for instance when putting in your waterproof
@@richt3993 somewhere i was reading that the front pockets (not the zippered and flasks, the one behind) is smaller now, is this true? it was so perfect on the old since i also was carrying a small glass to watch with me.... otherwise i just have to try the new one! What was strange, why salomon was chasing the design again in the last weeks...
@@GerdGuchl Its not smaller but the opening is smaller because of the way the back through pocket comes further round the side.
So it can fit just as much in but a little harder to get something out that's at the bottom and towards the back of the pocker
This is literally the best vest I have ever had and it has everything my other Salomon vest/backpack were missing like only a limited amount of pockets in the front and lacking options for poles (so far I hated to take my poles out cause it usually meant I would have to take my backpack/vest off and I was also always worried that I would lose my poles due to missing fastening options).
I'm not recommending anything unless I'm really convinced by the product and in this case I have to say this vest was such a good investment.
Hey there ! We appreciate the feedback and are happy that you're happy with your vest. 😍
Great video. I just don't understand why it's not even on the website... There are a few meaningless photos and a brief description.
Never knew about the second pocket
Brilliant, thank you!
this vest sold out everywhere in indonesia, especially size S, please restock asap 😢
Hi, thank you very much for your interest in our products. We are sorry about the inconvenience. We are currently working on a restocking, but we don't have an exact date this time. In the meanwhile we suggest signing up on the product page to be notified when they are back in stock. 🙏
nice video, but I would like to see a handy use of the drinking bottles in front of the vest while running. If I take them out, it's not easy to get them in properly again, and leaving the bottles in and drinking with my head down does 't feel comfortable ....Looks like this vest is only for slow trailers... or people who stop their activity when drinking.
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
Completely confused now. Are you showing the new version or the old version? One might think the product photos on the website should show the new model? But that looks different to your model regarding the logo. So which is which? 🙈
Okay, so you are showing the older model of the vest (which makes no sense as this is a 2022 video(???))
Would an iPad fit in the back pocket? I run home from Uni, so this would be great if it does!
I recently bought an ADV Skin 12 but the blue tags that you're supposed to pull the bladder tube through aren't there. (It doesn't help that I bought my ADV Skin 12 in blue, so I can't really see the difference between these "special" blue tags and the other blue thingies.) Can you make an update video for the latest ADV Skin 12?
Hello! Please contact our customer service, they will ask you some photos to understand the issue and they will surely do their best to help you! www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
It took me a minute to find them. I have my vest in red, still can't see them good. What I realized is that the water bladder sits between the mesh and the next solid material, that's where the hole is. I know it seems like it should fit into the pocket (of solid material) but that's not where the hole is. The next hole is up on the right side (as I'm wearing it) then the tube pipes up towards the little wide loop.
Brilliant 👌
That’s a great video! merci!
Thank you 🙌
Can the quick link be adjusted? Any guidance on that?
Needs a zoom on how you equip the quiver.
I have the 2022 adv skin 12 and quiver. It is not clear how to attach the bottom cinch with barrel lock to the pack. The only attachment point that I see is the reflective loop. Can you provide a link to a video or instructions?
Hello Mike! Please contact our customer service, they will be able to send you a guide and check the compatibility of your backpack: www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/contact
Thanks for the video. But one thing remains unexplained: why are you wearing a mens‘ vest? Is that a better match as it is bigger? are the women ones too small? please let me know thanks
Hi there! Women vests are narrower, and we have them in smaller sizes, usually they fit perfectly, but every body is different, and you can decide to wear the one you like the most! 😉
I am not seeing any compression straps on my pack - is it possible there are different versions without the compression strap feature?
Hi Michael, they can be tricky to find. If you have this or the last version of the 12 the compression straps should be there. They are tucked inside the pocket to the side of the large back pocket so you access them for in between the layers. I hope this helps
Hello! If you have the last version you should have them! Please contact our customer service to double check with them if they can help you find the compression straps and check your pack through some photos 🙂 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
I got the 1.5 l bladder. When I lay it down, it leaks through the top. It looks like it slowly seeps through the fold. Is that a design flaw and I just need to keep it upright? Or is there something wrong with my bladder and it needs to be returned. I NEVER had an issue like this with a CamelBak bladder, and I've been using them since the 90s.
That happened to me as-well, and I got a replacement. It should not leak when lying down. My replacement doesn't leak when lying down.
Hello! We are sorry for the problems with your bladder! Please contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to help you identify the issue!
www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
what is the fabric loop next to the key clip for? it is only on that side, not on the other sid.
Sorry but I cannot see clearly how to attach the quiver diagonally - how do you attached the botton part with the toggl?
I would like to Know that too!
@salomonTV I have a new adv skin 12 (just like the video) and I couldn't understand how to attach custom quiver to the bottom of the bag. Can you help me?
The metal hooks on the quiver go through the little black tabs/loops that are all over the pack. They are hard to install (for me), but once you get it it's amazing.
Hello! Please contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to guide you through the correct process to attach the custom quiver! 🙏 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact
I've had the Adv Hydra 8 for just under 3 years now, but am now in the market for another as the front zip is coming away from the vest and I can't store my phone in there anymore. I'm also planning to do much longer runs in the future. This video was good, but it's disappointing to see the whistle is still as rubbish as on the Adv Hydra 8. I'm sure this could be rectified without tons of R&D investment!
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
@@SalomonTV That's good to hear, thanks. BTW, I have since purchased the ADV Skin 12.
Is the Adv Hydra 8 like the Active akin 8 ? Same issue with front pocket and the zip. Zip fell to bits!
*Active skin 8
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.👍 We often make adjustments to our products based on direct customer feedback. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers for consideration in future products.
Do use the 1.5 or 2.0 liter bladder?
if you want to use the insulation then I believe it has to be the 1.5l
@@fatherdamo2 Thank you!
Hello Taris! The ADV SKIN 12 is compatible with the 1.5 L bladder. If you have more doubts please reach out to our customer service. www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact They will be more than happy to help you!
I have neck and shoulder issues right now due to a herniated disc. I can still run, but I'm worried about the extra weight on my shoulders. Do you think this vest would be a good option?
That’s a question for your Doctor, not the internet.
Good video but you left out the odd way bladders are connected with Salomon trail running bags. Kinda weird little squeeze thing that doesn’t seem to stay. Please cover this in the future. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Clips work and are simple!
Hi. I just bought Adv 12 Race flag. I have a question about size. My chest is 109cm which accordingly to Salomon website is Large (from 103 -109). Is that ok or I will be better with an XL that goes from 109-118. First time using a running vest.
Thank you
Hi Jorge, it depends on what you want to wear underneath, and how you're feeling on the weight and fit of the vest! We would suggest you to try both in a store and keep the one you're more comfortable with 😉
Thank you. I decided to go for the XL and I love it. This vest makes training much easier
We appreciate the feedback and are happy that you're happy 😍
At last!!!👏
Where does one find those trekking poles?
Those are the ULTRA CARBON FOLDABLE" poles. I love and recommend the Black Diamond Distance Carbon Z poles.
Hello! Please do not hesitate to contact our customer service, they will be more than happy to help you find the poles you need! 🙏 www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/contact/
Thank you 🙌
Oh my gosh, use me as the LIKE button for the adorable furball!! (Oh, and thanks for the great info too)
Thanks 🇧🇪🇧🇪❤
Which size is she wearing?
What hydration bladder do you recommend?
Hi! The Adv skin 12 is only compatible with the 1.5 L bladder: www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/soft-reservoir-1-5l-20.html#color=73180&size=29055 🙂
love the trash pocket, genius...
Salve, si possono regolare le clip per agganciare i quick link? Come si spostano? Non mi è chiaro. Grazie
Ciao! I nostri agenti possono inviarti la guida in PDF, contattaci qui: www.salomon.com/it-it/shop-emea/contact/ 😉
@@SalomonTV grazie mille
Grazie a te!
I have two bruises (left and right) at bottom of my rib cage after rather easy 7 mile run. From the corners of the bottom of the vest.
The bruises are the size of dimes. It comes from repeated oscillation of water flasks concentrating into the corners.
I believe if I had 2 inch circular pads that stuck on over the bruises, it could disperse the force over a large enough region.
Anybody experienced this problem and have advice?
Hello! Normally we do not have bruising problems with the ADV SKIN 12. However please contact our customer service! They will be more than happy to help you find a solution!
Do you have hard bottom flasks?
Hello! The SPEED FLASKS have a hard bottom: www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/sflask-500-17-spd-42.html#color=74287&size=29055
For what it’s worth, I experience this as well - not bruising, but definite soreness in the area you described. I still love the pack, and I’m assuming (hoping) my body with adjust to this with time.
I had this EXACT problem when running my first marathon using ADV 5. I found it eased if I didn’t cinch the bottom straps too tightly. But it’s definitely an issue. Hoping my new (bigger) ADV 12 will not cause the same issue
Hi DOM...I'm called DUMB too..but my name is actually a nickname my family gave me...🥴
🏴🥃🥃🇫🇷
Energy gels and phone pockets don't cut it. Many more pieces of gear such as gloves, types of glasses, balaclava, etc., are needed to be accessible up front based on weather and terrain area coverage. Water bladders are heavy, normally have a stench, are costly and require maintenance versus a PET water bottle with hose and bite valve located at the center of the spine. Why at the spine versus up front off center of the chest center? The spine is the center of torso rotation, the primary tool along with your arms that controls speed and cadence. Locating the normally heaviest item - water at the center of the spine virtually eliminates the side to side thrusting of the water which is what you have with water bottles located off center in the front that generates fatigue, reduced speed and endurance.
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us. We will make sure to pass this along to our designers and quality team for consideration in future products.
Don’t you have a choice ? You can buy a bladder wih bite valve for the back and can use the pockets on the front for anything you like if you remove the soft flasks. No one said you HAVE to use the soft flasks!
@@GodzillaGoesGaga. Obviously you can do what you want. S, the question is which solution offers the best usage for varied conditions and best performance.