GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)
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- GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)
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A collector came in with a trade claiming to be worth $8,000 of 12 Inch G. I. Joes, Star Wars Action Figures, and Six Million Dollar Man Action Figures. He bought them off a friend's mom aft he passed. Despite not knowing how much they were worth he took his friend at his word. We find out that there were a lot of issues with these action figures as well as a decline in interest as well as value.
In the early 1960s, Hasbro was looking to create a new toy line that would appeal to boys. They came up with the concept of a 12-inch action figure, and in 1964, they released the first GI Joe. The original GI Joe was a military-themed figure, and it was marketed as the "Real American Hero." The figure was a huge success, and Hasbro soon released a range of accessories and outfits for it.
In the late 1960s, the Vietnam War was in full swing, and Hasbro faced criticism for its militaristic toy line. In response, they shifted the focus of the line away from the military and towards adventure and exploration. They released figures like the Adventure Team Commander, who was dressed in safari gear, and the Sea Adventurer, who wore a diving suit.
The GI Joe line continued to be popular throughout the 1970s, but by the end of the decade, interest was starting to wane. Hasbro tried to revive the line in the early 1980s with a new, smaller 3.75-inch line, but it wasn't until the mid-2000s that the 12-inch line was brought back, this time marketed towards adult collectors.
In the 1970s, the popularity of the GI Joes began to wane, and Hasbro made several changes to the line. The most significant of these changes was the introduction of the smaller, 3.75-inch figures in 1982. These figures were more affordable and allowed for a wider range of play options, but they lacked the detail and articulation of the larger figures.
Despite the popularity of the smaller figures, collectors have continued to be drawn to the 12-inch GI Joes. These figures are highly detailed and offer a glimpse into the history of action figures as a whole. They are also highly valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction.
It was one of the first toy lines to feature an extensive range of accessories and outfits, and it paved the way for other action figure lines like Star Wars.
In 1977, George Lucas released Star Wars, a space opera that quickly became a cultural phenomenon. The film's success led to a demand for merchandise, and Kenner was tasked with creating a line of toys based on the film.
Kenner faced a challenge - the film was released in May of 1977, but the toys wouldn't be ready in time for Christmas. In a stroke of marketing genius, Kenner created the Early Bird Certificate Package. The package contained a certificate that could be mailed in for four figures that would be shipped in early 1978. The package was a huge success, and it ensured that Kenner's Star Wars line would be a hit.
The Star Wars line was based on the film's characters, and it included figures like Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, and Darth Vader. The figures were 3.75 inches tall and featured five points of articulation. They also came with accessories like lightsabers and blasters.
The Star Wars line was a massive success, and it continued to be popular throughout the 1980s. Kenner released new figures and vehicles based on the sequels, and the line helped to establish Star Wars as a lasting cultural phenomenon.
The popularity of the Star Wars figures quickly surpassed even that of the film itself, and Kenner released a wide range of new figures over the next few years. They introduced new characters, vehicles, and playsets, and the line continued to be a massive success.
In addition to the original figures, Kenner also released a series of "Power of the Force" figures in the mid-1980s. These figures were larger and more detailed than the original line, but they were not as popular with collectors.
Today, vintage Star Wars figures are highly sought-after collectibles. The original figures are especially valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction. The popularity of the Star Wars franchise has continued to grow over the years, and new figures are still being produced today.
Kenner was a toy company that was founded in 1947 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The company initially produced a wide range of toys, including Play-Doh, Easy-Bake Oven, and Spirograph. However, they are best known for their action figures.
Kenner was selected to produce the Star Wars figures in 1977, and this contract helped to solidify their place in the toy industry. They continued to produce a wide range of action figures over the years, including lines based on popular franchises like Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, and Batman
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The editing is getting better every episode.
Man to be honest I was just waiting for Ryan to say just get out lol. Good vid and bring more content guys
I think it’s spot on with retail expectations for a wholesale transaction . These book values are never current to the market
That's why you should always buy stuff cus you like it , not to try to get rich off it in the future, lol . Chances are you might not get your money back .
Very good… you deserved the Doritos at the end!
14:24 worst comment he made, “I don’t want to lose money!” 10/10 when you’re selling to a reseller, you’re going to lose money. If you want to make your money back or more, sell it yourself!!
Indeed!
Right lmao he wanted like 6 grand for all that crap and buddy was like "Best I can do is 2 for it all" lol
Dude is a KISS collector , he doesn’t know the value of anything
My dad owned a comic store when I was a kid and did ball card shows and took me. Seeing this guy reminded me of how many times you get this exact situation. So many guys just like this claiming they know exactly the worth based off unsold eBay listings and not taking into consideration your overhead. Not to mention they take up a whole day of labor going back and forth with you till the point you don’t even wanna look at it. It’s the part of the business that really feels like work.
Yup. If he’s so confident of the value, he needs to sell it on eBay his damn self.
There is nothing as infuriating when somebody shows me what something is selling for on eBay, as they scroll down through 100 listings for the same item. If 50 guys are selling it for 100 bucks, and nobody is buying it, it’s not worth 100 bucks. Old doesn’t always mean high dollar. If you sell it for 100 and it’s finally goes for 50, then it was only worth 50. People need to learn how selling to a retail shop works. He’s not running a museum, he’s running a business
@@thegodfatheroftoys3349only slow people look at what’s for sale. Completed sold listings only.
@@thegodfatheroftoys3349 I see that from time to time. Instead of filtering it to the "Sold" listing, which shows how much someone is willing to pay for an item and how many were sold in the last few months.
@@homerj806 all those things are all 100% true, though
Guy showed up next day with grandma's Beanie baby collection ready to deal
ROFL!!!!
Been down that route myself so I totally get this joke!His starting price would be 75k for Lady Di.Ebay sold are at 1 dollar meanwhile.
Selling your dead friend's stuff and throwing a fit about it when you don't get the same overprice you paid is just gross and annoying.
Where did he throw a fit? He was upset about the price clearly, but he sat there calmly, haggled, and ended up working out a deal he liked enough to take. Where did he do anything disgusting? What did he do that's immoral? He got a deal that the everyone agreed on, is it wrong of him to try to get a better deal and then get worked down to a more reasonable one? Is bartering wrong now?
@@Punisherfan123 you dont have to be throwing a literal tantrum to be annoying to work with. he moaned at every price that was thrown out lmfao
Probably tells everyone his Kiss stuff is worth over a million dollars
I don't buy for a second that he paid 4500 dollars for all that crap lol.
There's so many people like this in collecting who don't understand that value is relative. The value can only be what buyers are willing to pay, what you originally paid for it is irrelevant.
The patience on display here is inspiring 🤣
It's a generational thing. GI Joe nostalgists are pushing 70, Hot Wheels 65, and Star Wars in their 50s. The competitive market is entrepreneurs collecting their childhood 20-30 years previously, not 40-60 years because there's fewer people wanting the same thing.
I wonder what will happen to the Pokemon card market when 90's kids turn 70
The fact he never stopped talking is the first red flag
filling empty space. artifice and subterfuge
Drives me nuts people walking in to a store expecting to sell to them for retail price.
If you get vintage stuff....(1940's-early 1970's)...sell to a collector...NOT a dealer!
Not always true
Usually depends on how fast you want to get rid of it. Finding the right collector can take some time.
The seller didn’t have a clue and showed his complete ignorance. The expert/toy store owner was very fair with him. Fun to watch.
Don't always take your friends word on their collection value. Don't always buy it blind off their family.
Wait til guys family tries to sell the Kiss stuff to no one wanting to buy it
This guy seemed like he thought his sob story would make him rich, and expected him to complete the pieces of the sets for him...
This guy doesnt listen, and does respect the rules of the hobby. You cant just throw random accessories in with a figure and say its good. So in the end, mom made all the money😂
2:26 “all the good stuff from the 60s and early 70s” like, guy, Star Wars didn’t come out till 1977 😂😂😂
You were really honest with the guy. Unfortunately, as the generation who played with these Joes dies off, there will be fewer and fewer collectors for them. I'm a child of the 80's, so I personally have no nostalgia for these items except for the Star Wars and a few of those hot wheels. I did however love the artwork on those Batman prints. Great episode!
Thanks! Yea, and I think Star Wars has more lasting power than the 12 inch. Maybe because of the new universe.
That poor guy confused a hobby with an investment! Never confuse the two!
Well said
Yep. I know a lot of guys with their garages and basements full of bins with 1990’s Hot Wheels. “Oh yeah they are OLD!”
Doubt he paid $4500 for that stuff. I bet he got it for free or much much lower. He was trying to grift TF with that number. Everyone upset with TF, well the seller doesn't have to sell it to them. They gave him an offer, a simple no thanks and be on his way. The stuff he had is practically junk. The Star Wars cases were the best thing. Everything else was very worn and mostly undesirable.
I don’t think he paid for it. If he did he was probably trying to grift an old lady and screwed himself.
Probably he got it all for next to nothing. Looked on ebay and figured he'd make 4500$
I don’t think that is necessarily true. He said it was his friend and the man that died (as just about every collector ever) over values his collection based on outdated market prices. His wife was probably told or had an idea of the outdated value that he bragged to her about. The fat man paid under what he was told the value was. He was even talking how he was under the impression he vastly undervalued them at a toy show to “blow them out” but obviously they didn’t sell, which shows he didn’t have a grasp on the market.
They probably paid him to take the stuff
I just realized this episode that this is very much shot like a documentary series. I don't know who you are camera man, but your killing it. If you are also the editor your killing that too. The tension was real this episode.
He is the cinematographer and the editor! @MattWaltonChannel on youtube
How could this be so boring but yet sooooo entertaining?
Watching a nerd argue with a Bozo😂
People seem to think loose vintage Star Wars are a gold mine. They don't realize the accessories are worth more than the figure. The figures weren't so easily lost as the weapons
So, th dude paid $4500 without knowing how much it was really worth, and now he's mad no one will cover his loss?
I gave all my cool old toys to my kid for destruction through playing. Worth every penny.
There is a small timeframe where adults want to collect the things that made them happy as kids. Once you are outside of the frame, vintage mass-produced consumer goods lose most of it’s value. Practically nobody gives a crap about vintage-era GI Joe accessories anymore.
this is spot on, i have tons of things i saved from when i was a kid. and then ive added a few things over the years. everyone who sees my collection of stuff always says how much is this worth! i always say "nothing its just cool to have". at this point i cant bring myself to downsize against the ebay competition for pennies. i have a few afa figures that will sell easily and make a profit. but the majority of my stuff i told my niece to sell when i die for whatever she can get for herself since itll all be profit for her.
Yep. Market fluctuates. Toys are meant to be bought, owned, and played with.
@@toyfederation Correct. Every time I see a mint boxed toy from the 60s and 70s I think of a kid who never came out of hospital.
You sell to a collector...NOT a dealer! You'll get the best price...
My guess is he paid his friend's mother $500 bucks for all the toys.
He didnt pay $4500
The guy that died was no friend of his and he wasnt trying to help anyones family
He has no one to sell any of this to which is why he is at your store 2.5 hours away from his home almost 5 years after he priced it.
Generations get older, their memories become precious, and all the crap from their childhoods go up in price. Then they die off and the market dries up, then you've got a a garage full of literal garbage.
It all ends up in a landfill at some point.
Dude doesn’t look like he’s missing any meals, so 🤷♂️
Yeah..the comment he made about the market “aging “ hit hard…but I sure don’t want that crap again , let alone pay top dollar for it..
So true. Applies to retro computing too. I feel we’re approaching peak value in that market now.
Theyre old plastic toys. People often think this shit is worth big money. But then you see them taking up space in antique shops and never selling. Its plastic.
Yeah. Those SW toys that look like they've been played with a lot are not uncommon. Collectors want things nice and shiny and new looking, with the original packaging, preferably.
And SW is just not as popular as it used to be.
They are worth something to someone, even the Mona Lisa is just paper and paint, you can't write off the value something has based on what it's made of
Main reason why I’m an out of box collector.
Yeah, they cover the walls of comic book shops, even the store owners know they are more decor then actual stock. Never seen anyone come in and buy one.
This is pretty sad... No matter how large your collection, how much it's worth, and how long it's taken to collect it will one day, most likely be bargained off out of tubs, at yard sales, or boxed up and forgotten
Depends what is it barbie plastic figures will definitely follow this road
Yep. Don’t fall in love with material goods. They’re really only rented by you while you’re here.
I know I have some stuff that’s worth a little bit, but when I go, family members mostly don’t want to hold onto that stuff forever - and they don’t feel about it the way you do. More than half of it will end up in a landfill. 🤷♂️
Carry them with you in your heart, all you need is one to represent many. Grow up your an adult, stop playing with Toys.
He didn't pay for it... He inherited it
These are the things most people don't (won't) understand - Something is only worth what someone will PAY for it. A dealer isn't going to give you retail. Aged and worn isn't mint. Anyone can post value lists on the internet. Broken or pieces missing isn't what collectors are looking for. And last but not least, there's always a chance you overpaid for it in the first place.
There are plenty of stupid/gullible people on Ebay that will pay an astronomical amount because of how much that individual sees the value in something, this is why using pawn shops and mom and pop shops for deals and trading is a waste of time.
Why waste the gas and energy to drive somewhere, when I can throw it on ebay and get way more than what it's actually worth.
I sold Star Wars toys to a shop decades ago. They then doubled what I'd been paid for each of them and put them on their shelves. I was fuming, but they were all still there when the shop went out of business.
One thing about collecting you have to learn before you get to this guy's age... oftentimes, you're lucky if you manage to break even. "Vintage" doesn't exactly mean "gold mine" unless it's sealed, complete, not yellowed AND it's something people want.
I don’t think people stop to think about what you just posted. The last vintage Star Wars figs came out 40 years ago almost. Yet with eBay, you can find a loose figure anytime. Carded and boxed examples are still out there for a price. That means there was a ton of that stuff made. I feel bad for people who started keeping stuff form the mid 90s and beyond, when people stopped opening toys and bought them to hoard.
That picture of the kid with his toys was great. For that moment he was happy and that’s a beautiful thing to have in a photo. Rest In Peace to that fellow human
Wasn’t that complicated the guy had unrealistic expectations.. oh and he was lying about getting that stuff for 4k. He’s used that number as leverage. 😂😂
This episode kinda reflects how I feel when I argue with people who say physical videogames and consoles from the 1980s and 90s are going to be expensive and hold their value forever. I try to tell them that no one cares what is 'rare' or how 'valuable' one of their 'grails' is.... almost EVERYTHING collectible will be worth little to nothing eventually. I see these fools with NES games going on about how this piece of hardware or that game is worth thousands - and I think, _"do you not understand that kids today do not care about those things, let alone value them?"_
We are even seeing it now, as a lot of these old games that where being fought over by resellers at yardsales several years back, are ow sitting on store listings, and in Mom & Pop shops, gathering dust - because the heat around collecting them has cooled off (as that demographic has entered their 40s and 50s). I was born in the 80s, and now I'm bloody 40 years old!!!! Jesus Christ time flies. Pretty soon the things my generation grew up with - like Ninja Turtles, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Marvel Action Figures, Transformers.... those are not going to be worth much in another decade or so.
It's math: Most collectors are men.... men live on average 5-10 years less than women. The prime collecting years are 18 - 35, and after that the crowd of collectors who stay with the hobby shrinks dramatically. Most the people who grew up with 12" GI Joe's are currently 60 - 75. The people who grew up with Atari, Intellevision, Collecovision and toys like Kenner Star Wars and Match box are on average between 45 - 60. Those of us who grew up with 4" Gi Joe, He-man, Ninja Turtles, Transformers, Power Rangers, NES, Sega Genesis, Gameboy NES.... we are between 35 - 45 years-old.
This all goes for comics and other collectibles too.
The kids today and for along time now, did not grow up caring about toys for the most part, and almost all of them are not attached to physical objects or certain brands or game consoles. If you were born in the late 90s and since.... you only care about what is on your phone screen, and the digital world. NO ONE IS GOING TO REPLACE US. If your holding on to things from pop-culture past for monetary purposes, then SELL IT NOW! Very little of it is going to hold its value, let alone be worth MORE?
If you collect these things, do it because they mean something to you, and expect it to end up in a trash heap somewhere or a basement after you pass on. Humans, objects, even culture - DOES NOT LIVE ON FOREVER. Everything has a end, and the world goes on. You cannot expect your things to hold value to future generations, and you cannot expect other people your age to pay high prices for something you still think is worth what it was a decade (or decades) ago.
When you fail to do that, you get a grown man in the floor crying and having a late life crisis, because his brain just can't accept that no one (generally speaking) wants his 'valuable' stuff, and those small niche hardcore collectors of whatever it is, that do... they are not going to pay what was top dollar years and years ago, when the market for it is literally dying off, and cool as ice.
And then they get mad, when people have to break reality to them.
Born in 90 and I grew up playing with Star Wars and gijoe until I was 12-13. Kids now a days have a personal gaming computer in their bedroom by that time lol crazy
Same thing in the car market. 1950s cars have decreased in value because the demographic that had nostalgia for those cars is dying out.
It should be pointed out here though too things went off their head during 2020-21 in basically all areas of collecting and investment, now the economy has turned and with inflation everything has cooled off and will continue to do so, a lot of people are not smart enough to judge the state of markets properly. I think you are making some pretty broad generalisations too about what current young people and incoming generations want, if what you say was true then nothing really old would have any value anymore but that is clearly not the case, maybe it becomes more niche and only stand out stuff as things get older, but there always tends to be a market.
Certain toys like pokemon and star wars still have a modern day following from kids. Especially with the movies and videogames
Thats why i now start selling my movie poster and photo collections. While posters with good artwork will have some value forever, most are worthless. Luckily i collected Horror movies which are still popular but it also change in a few years. Movies are not important part of teenager life anymore and thats where the retro collection comes from as you correctly said.
What will the current generation collect? I don't think there i a lot.
LOL sounds like mom swindled this guy to get this crap out of her house ha ha ha
the star wars stuff was junk , all in pretty bad shape , im in the UK and my vintage star wars stuff is in great condition and its worth nothing
I had a lot of those toys in the 80s. GI Joe and Star Wars stuff. I had a large Millennial Falken. Thing is, I played with mine. Blew them up with fire crackers and such.
Many are still buried under the shade of an old oak tree at my childhood home where I played. So many good memories.
The way toys were meant to be appreciated! Not kept in a box to “appreciate “.
I paid market value for something as a collector, buying off of another collector, and all parties were happy. Then after about a week, that guy started emailing me about how he'd underpriced everything and he should have sold it for more, or not sold it at all, or sold it but somehow also hung onto it, it was just ridiculous. Weeks.
Some people will be unhappy that they came out getting more than they asked for. Some people will be unhappy that they got an item for free because they didn't cost the seller more time or money as an inconvenience. Everyone wants to be the prettiest pony in the universe, and believe their stuff is the most awesome best stuff ever even if you could walk into a store today and buy it off a shelf at retail for less.
At the end of the day the question is, do you enjoy the thing? If a person can't enjoy the things without some element of exploiting someone else or feeling superior, they aren't collecting. They're just hoarding with a vindictive attitude.
I don't like it when people add on some story into whatever they want to sell. It's always "somebody died" or "I paid this for them" or "I need money for some sad story thing that happened". Regardless it doesn't matter to the buyer and it's hard to not just say "I don't care" when they keep mentioning it.
When you're the one lugging a collection through the front door looking to liquidate it more than likely you're going to take a hit. The exception to the rule might be when you're the original buyer and took care of it all for all that time, got lucky at a storage unit auction, estate sale, ect...
Also the buyers might get things for a decent price with room for profit and the items just sit around for years or never end up selling. You can get screwed even when you think you made a deal.
People need to realize that the store needs to resell these toys to make profit. Whenever I sell something to a game store, I don't expect to be given market value. If I want market value then I'll sell everything myself. And I give props to the worker who was very patient.
Can someone get that old man a chair..
THIS GUY CREEPS ME OUT HE GIVES ME A JOHN WAYNE GACEY FIBE.
I occasionally sell older toys to my local comic shops. They’re super nice guys, but I know walking in they’re not going to give me close to retail value on anything I bring in. It’s a business, and they have profit margins to maintain. You have to sell direct to the buyer yourself if you want the most money.
Save a toy for years. 45 mins to argue over if it's $80 or $50 and yet spend you $60 on a meal on a random tuesday like it's no big deal and if someone asks next week, you'd forget what you ate. Money is valued so weird.
If he paid the mom $4500 then the one that robbed him was the mom. When you try to sell a whole collection to a vendor or toy store, you're never going to get what you paid for or what you think they're worth. A business needs to make money off the sell. No one can actually believe that TF was going to give him more than $2k for all of this. TF has bills to pay and god only knows how long it would take to sort out all those toys, plus how long it's going to take to sell them all off. If that guy wanted more, he should have sold it on eBay or forums.
Nice to be understood
There’s no way in hell he shelled out $4500 for all that crap, maybe $500 at the most. People his age get access to deals like that all the time, his peers all have this old crap. He sold those hot wheels for $100, it was like 60 cars an expert would have valued those closer to $300-$600. Guy cleary was just working off an estimate of $4500 and hoped to get more than that or most of it by saying he paid it. There really wasn’t anything in there to justify paying over $2000, I doubt he’s going to give a 90 year old lady $4500 for a couple country yard sale bins, if he did that tgat just makes him the biggest sucker ever.
It is good to show the reality of things too. Often things don't work out like the seller imagines when he comes in. That is not bad, just being realilistic and fair. Too many of these would be depressing (even if realistic) but showing some comes across as a honest and true.
Thanks for appreciating the episode!
As a man who works at a large collectible toys shop in Texas that sees walk in sales daily, no way in hell would we buy anything from that man, he drove a long way to get outside the area where he lives to a shop that didn’t know his face. Could’ve been that he came that far to get the items out of city limits in event he had problems from the family for stolen property (if that’s what happened). I know Ernie would’ve politely told him to go pound sand. Little things like wrapping plastic around figures to discourage the buyer from taking a closer look for small cracks those figures are known for is one red flag. When someone says the item is in a factory sealed box and the sealing tape is still in place, most people don’t realize that people just use a hot hair dryer or heat gun to warm it up to loosen the tape adhesive to get inside then re-seal the box, so never assume it’s never been opened unless you like buying bricks labeled as an X-wing fighter.
The shop owner (Apologies i forget his name) seems like he knows his stuff so i am sure he was careful, you dont know what he checked off camera. I do agree with you though to not trust a stranger at face value and inspect all the items for damage and tampering.
I used to run a sports card shop.. this was painful to watch because it reminds me how many times I had to crush people's dreams when they thought they had a retirement IRA in their closet, and I had to be the one telling them it was next to worthless today. Heart goes out to both the guy who over paid and the guys have to try to gentle let him down.
As a former dealer you also know this guy was full of shit, and his repeated attempts to convince he paid $4500 for that stuff was a ridiculously obvious (and lame) ploy to attempt to convince the shop owner to "at least give him his money back."
meh I think he was telling the truth because he took more than half of it back with him@@thepaulhenderson
It's not what something is "worth", it's only what someone is willing to pay for it!
I have been reading the comments and I am taken by how personal many of the comments. Talking about the man's weight, appearance and so on. If he does not know what he is doing, or has his own idea of the value or is trying to scam that is one thing and legit to discuss. Myself, I try to learn a bit about what I am trying to trade to have a better understanding of what I am doing. I personally would never FULLY trust someone who I am trying to sell to, because they are looking the lowest price and if they can scam a seller, well they probably would do that to. It is a 2 way street. But to attack someone for being overweight and not looking well that is wrong. I would wonder what I might think if I saw what some of the commenters looked like. Sorry for venting.
Good points.
Comment section is straight childish cancer.
They all read like a 14yr old snot nosed kid wrote it.
"Sorry for venting."
No need to apologize for telling the truth.
@@michaelm.1947100% 😊❤
What’s a scam? How is somebody scammed? I hate when people throw that word around. It’s simple. Somebody offers an item, they offer a price. It the offer is not what you are looking for, walk away. If he can sell it for 100, you will not get 100. He’s not a broker, he’s a dealer.
You sound very sensitive over the littlest of things, words are words ffs. Words may hold value and meaning but only from those you should listen to, not everybody and especially the internet. Hope this helps to stop your suffering.
Fold out tables are cheap and convenient. Double knee replacement is not.
My knees always hurt watching these videos
oooof this was hard to watch. im a little over 40 and those big dolls were never appealing to me. the market for those like the buyer said it just aint there at all. you really got to dig to find someone who wants that stuff. plus a bunch of crap accesories that no one will ever really need or look for. that stuff will sit forever. the offer was pretty generous as is. this guy dont understand that the collectors for that era are dying off, not interested, dont want to spend on it and are minimizing.
100%. THEY ARE DOLLS!!! Not ACTION FIGURES! Not many guys want DOLLS!!! lol
he prob thought he was buying a gold mine off his friends mom when his friend died and wanted first grabs at it and then is realizing its not really worth that much.
Perfectly said! He jumped at the chance of buying out his "Friends" collection hoping to make a profit. That's all he cared about.
So to help ur dead friend's mom out and u offer her half what u think his stuff is worth and then find out it ain't worth half that ? That's called karma .
I’m a collector of my favorite properties but my rule of thumb is to buy what I love. If it’s worth something down the road that’s a bonus.
The problem with a lot of this stuff is most collectors in the hobby now have no idea what it even is, I would suggest that most 12 inch Joe collectors probably already have most of the more common stuff, finding new people getting into 12 inch is most likely impossible at this point.
This guy gets it
2:25
Star Wars toys from the 60’s?
Wow!
That was the best period of Star Wars
Pawn stars would have given him $50 store credit…he got a good offer here
Ha!
That’s a fake show, don’t use it for a comparison
I have been collecting various things over the years, and it always amazes me when someone sells to a store and expects eBay prices from the store. That top value is rare and bidding wars can increase the price. However its nice he gave his friends mom good money, again so much work goes into a store like all operation costs, and the time it takes to sell it. I know it's hard to accept, just like my comics are not worth what i want. The option is to sell it on your own if you want top value. Important video for perspectives on collecting. Glad i subscribe, thanks pixel dan
A great statement! Couldn't agree more! And yes, Thank you to Pixel Dan for getting you here!
this is the end of every collection.
Hilarious! Anyone can say "This is worth 80 grand" but the thing is if people aren't looking to buy it, then it's not worth crap. I never see anyone collecting the larger G.I. Joes. Mostly the smaller sizes.
And there will come a day when people will stop collecting that as well. Just how it works.
The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you. Even if the experts agree something is worth $100 you still have to find the person to pay you $100!
A business is not going to pay you $100 for something they can only sell for $100!
'The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you.'
You can literally say that about anything.
Because it’s true. Like, literally.
The perspective of a business owner with overhead is a far different thing than a guy cruising thrift stores and flipping some items on eBay.
The old guy can't even accept a loss. Like the owner said the younger generation is not going to want these older toys that are unheard of
I love how people trying to sell stuff use the price they paid for it as if that has any bearing on the current negotiation.
You getting hosed in a previous transaction does not get passed on to me.
One of the main rules of collectiing - never buy a job lot of stuff that you know nothing about, especially when the amount of money is into the thousands!
Yeah, the guy who bought the stuff from his friends mother should have either done his research or just passed on it all.
This was brutal to watch. The old man just didn’t listen. Love the videos but that guy was rough to get through.
It’s tough to let go sometimes
@@toyfederation that’s very true.
Just 1 star wars box he said he could sell for 600
He was gonna give him 500 for all star wars boxes figures and accessories. Wym he was hard to get through. Make 100$ on the box and just give him all the figures and accessories for free lol¿
That old man didn’t listen because he was trying to pull a fast one the entire time. “All those million dollar man cases, I mean Star Wars” “what but you said $600, oh valued at $600 well I’m leaving you lots of room with the other stuff you’re not buying how about $600. Practically tongue tied the buyer, he needed snacks afterwords.Guy was the classic baby boomer shister. He didn’t listen because he wanted the buyer to forget what he said or cave in simple as that.
This guy was having difficulty breathing lol he doesnt have much time either lol
Damn🤣
Yes, one day you too will be an older human, hope you live a better life since you're so knowledgeable.
Looks like he may have had a stroke or two already.
I had no clue that Bill Parcells was into action figure collectibles.
Assuming I believe this dude on what he spent for this lot... bro, what are you doing spending $4,500 on stuff you know very little about?
Very true
If the story is true... gave a $4500 cash donation to a widow. End of good deed, move on--can't expect an additional reward for also decluttering items (not gonna say junk).
If you go to a dealer and try to sell to them, you're going to get less than half of what you're trying to sell is worth. You'll never get even close to full price.
well in first place you have to know that the guy who is buying your stuff has to make a living out of it. He is not buying things for storing them for his own completition. If so he would be bankrupt one day.
But to be fair if youre selling your stuff to a merchant you will have less work with it than selling everything seperately on ebay.
@@seplayer Very true.
@@MichaelKerr71 I just don't understand why these people don't just try eBay themselves if they think they are being screw over. ReSelling these stuff is actually a lot of work, and sometimes these things just take up storage space for months.
When you ask a buyer to look at your stuff and give you an offer, and you don’t like the offer, just say “thanks for looking, but ill pass”. I cant stand when seller’s argue with buyers like this guy did. Just walk away, and bring it to someone else. If its REALLY worth what you say it is, you shouldn’t have an issue finding SOMEONE to get close to your asking price.
People always forget that they can say no. Or it’s just sales tactics. It’s fine.
At the end of the day, the dude just had to feel like he “won”. I commend you for not exploding with frustration. I don’t have that cool lol.
Love this content! This should be a television show. I can watch this all day long! Great stuff
Stay tuned.
No one cares "what you got in it" Harsh truth, but they're honest and trying to run a business.
Seller wants the retail price... funny.
I kind of understand how people see prices online and get this fantasy about how much money they're gonna make, but that's MAYBE what you can get if you sell everything separately by yourself, which, hey surprise, that's what these shop owners have to do to make a livelihood
@@zibberebbiz Time is money! Selling stuff takes alot of time. I prefer trade with other collectors than sell because selling is a pain.
2:25 Star Wars stuff from the 60's and early 70's??? Uhhh Star Wars came out in 1977 pal! You have no idea what you're talking about! 😂
He OVERPAID just as most KISS collectors do!!! 😂😂😂
No lie.
Kiss collectors are passionate, but they often don’t realize that THEIR love for the band doesn’t automatically means big dollars at resale. They’re often pretty delusional.
Guy has $4.5K into it... calling BS
I ALWAYS tell my daughters…
sweethearts. Between the comics, Haslabs, StarWars VC, and RC cars. You could probably sell everything for 500 bucks when Dad dies… 😂
Everyone thinks they have a goldmine, thats the trouble, I totally get it these dudes are dealing with it everyday- its just product to them and its emotional to the seller. Everyone thinks because they have a vintage yoda figure they can put kids through college with it.
This Man is lying and this is all his own collection, he finally got a girlfriend and selling his stuff so he doesn't look stupid still playing with Toys.
Nah, he's buying Kiss dolls, so he's going to look stupid in any case.
Love these people that think having a store or selling on Ebay is like sitting under a golden fountain. If it's so easy do it. Find out how taking pictures, dealing with dumb questions, tire kickers, returns because they "Thought it was something else", Fees, shipping, Taxes. Yeah, you're not getting top dollar walking in the door selling your crap
0:56 that’s the second time he mentioned about his friend passing away in less than a minute… he’s trying to get sympathy from the buyer to try and get as much money as possible out of him so the buyer can feel bad about his current situation and give a little more money than he was originally willing to.
I guarantee you he paid little to nothing for that stuff. I read him the moment I saw him, he's a fake.
Buddy, you have about 15 or 20 minutes before everybody who knows who the $6 million man is is 6 feet under
Not into vintage toys but somehow stumbled on your channel. Your knowledge of these items is staggering! I Found myself drawn in to this video I don’t know why. You obviously care about your customers and want them to be happy.
This is the first time I watched someone buy a collection that was actually not trying to rip the customer off or not having the attitude like oh well it's not my fault the guy doesn't know what it's worth. This guy is awesome and is clearly going through every with the man. Thank God there are still good guys like this owner/buyer.
Everyone thinks their junk is worth money. What I’ve learned… is if you think you have a fortune item or some kind of rare valuable toy or collectible , you’re wrong. It’s not worth shit.
Damn right. If it was worth so much and easy to sell at a premium price, the guy would have sold it already. He did say he tried to unload it at shows - without success.
If he really wanted to make his money back he should've taken his time and sold them all separately you can't expect to just try and dump all on a toy store and get what you want
It's hard to sell on your own.
HIM: I paid so much for this stuff. So, I'll take what I paid + 20%.
TF: But it's not WORTH that much to us.
HIM: I don't understand. If I paid that much, and I looked it up on EBAY and it was going for even more, then that's how much it's worth.
TF: To us, it's worth roughly 50% to 75% what we think we can eventually sell it for. We're a store, we have no emotional attachment or incentive to pay more than that. It's the difference between selling to a business (providing goods/services for a profit) and selling to a private collector (will pay much more to recapture their childhood.)
HIM: But it's worth more.
TF: Not to us it isn't.
Ha. Nice recap.
That guy was a con man. I doubt he paid $4500 for that stuff. And he tried to make the deal complicated to try and get one over on you
"You said you'd pay 6 for the box" "I valued the box at 6 I didn't say I'd pay 6 for it" - 5 minutes later - "You said you'd pay 6 for the box"
He didn’t pay 4500. I’d bet real money on it.
The store needs a room or table for item appraisals.
From >$4k to 750 😂😂😂
I was at a show in Pasadena last year. There were some older guys with a ton of 12" Joe stuff. They weren't selling much. And the guys that were interested were pretty old. You're right people in that market are aging out.
We would drool over those little catalogues of Star Wars figures. We used to trade figures, and the catalogues were as big of an item to trade as the figures were.