GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)
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- GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)
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A collector came in with a trade claiming to be worth $8,000 of 12 Inch G. I. Joes, Star Wars Action Figures, and Six Million Dollar Man Action Figures. He bought them off a friend's mom aft he passed. Despite not knowing how much they were worth he took his friend at his word. We find out that there were a lot of issues with these action figures as well as a decline in interest as well as value.
In the early 1960s, Hasbro was looking to create a new toy line that would appeal to boys. They came up with the concept of a 12-inch action figure, and in 1964, they released the first GI Joe. The original GI Joe was a military-themed figure, and it was marketed as the "Real American Hero." The figure was a huge success, and Hasbro soon released a range of accessories and outfits for it.
In the late 1960s, the Vietnam War was in full swing, and Hasbro faced criticism for its militaristic toy line. In response, they shifted the focus of the line away from the military and towards adventure and exploration. They released figures like the Adventure Team Commander, who was dressed in safari gear, and the Sea Adventurer, who wore a diving suit.
The GI Joe line continued to be popular throughout the 1970s, but by the end of the decade, interest was starting to wane. Hasbro tried to revive the line in the early 1980s with a new, smaller 3.75-inch line, but it wasn't until the mid-2000s that the 12-inch line was brought back, this time marketed towards adult collectors.
In the 1970s, the popularity of the GI Joes began to wane, and Hasbro made several changes to the line. The most significant of these changes was the introduction of the smaller, 3.75-inch figures in 1982. These figures were more affordable and allowed for a wider range of play options, but they lacked the detail and articulation of the larger figures.
Despite the popularity of the smaller figures, collectors have continued to be drawn to the 12-inch GI Joes. These figures are highly detailed and offer a glimpse into the history of action figures as a whole. They are also highly valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction.
It was one of the first toy lines to feature an extensive range of accessories and outfits, and it paved the way for other action figure lines like Star Wars.
In 1977, George Lucas released Star Wars, a space opera that quickly became a cultural phenomenon. The film's success led to a demand for merchandise, and Kenner was tasked with creating a line of toys based on the film.
Kenner faced a challenge - the film was released in May of 1977, but the toys wouldn't be ready in time for Christmas. In a stroke of marketing genius, Kenner created the Early Bird Certificate Package. The package contained a certificate that could be mailed in for four figures that would be shipped in early 1978. The package was a huge success, and it ensured that Kenner's Star Wars line would be a hit.
The Star Wars line was based on the film's characters, and it included figures like Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, and Darth Vader. The figures were 3.75 inches tall and featured five points of articulation. They also came with accessories like lightsabers and blasters.
The Star Wars line was a massive success, and it continued to be popular throughout the 1980s. Kenner released new figures and vehicles based on the sequels, and the line helped to establish Star Wars as a lasting cultural phenomenon.
The popularity of the Star Wars figures quickly surpassed even that of the film itself, and Kenner released a wide range of new figures over the next few years. They introduced new characters, vehicles, and playsets, and the line continued to be a massive success.
In addition to the original figures, Kenner also released a series of "Power of the Force" figures in the mid-1980s. These figures were larger and more detailed than the original line, but they were not as popular with collectors.
Today, vintage Star Wars figures are highly sought-after collectibles. The original figures are especially valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction. The popularity of the Star Wars franchise has continued to grow over the years, and new figures are still being produced today.
Kenner was a toy company that was founded in 1947 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The company initially produced a wide range of toys, including Play-Doh, Easy-Bake Oven, and Spirograph. However, they are best known for their action figures.
Kenner was selected to produce the Star Wars figures in 1977, and this contract helped to solidify their place in the toy industry. They continued to produce a wide range of action figures over the years, including lines based on popular franchises like Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, and Batman - บันเทิง
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The editing is getting better every episode.
Man to be honest I was just waiting for Ryan to say just get out lol. Good vid and bring more content guys
I think it’s spot on with retail expectations for a wholesale transaction . These book values are never current to the market
That's why you should always buy stuff cus you like it , not to try to get rich off it in the future, lol . Chances are you might not get your money back .
Very good… you deserved the Doritos at the end!
That poor guy confused a hobby with an investment! Never confuse the two!
Well said
Selling your dead friend's stuff and throwing a fit about it when you don't get the same overprice you paid is just gross and annoying.
Where did he throw a fit? He was upset about the price clearly, but he sat there calmly, haggled, and ended up working out a deal he liked enough to take. Where did he do anything disgusting? What did he do that's immoral? He got a deal that the everyone agreed on, is it wrong of him to try to get a better deal and then get worked down to a more reasonable one? Is bartering wrong now?
@@Punisherfan123 you dont have to be throwing a literal tantrum to be annoying to work with. he moaned at every price that was thrown out lmfao
Why do I get the feeling this guy didn’t pay that woman a dime 😆
That's a possibility with how often he keeps saying it... it's a non factor in the end... If he would of gotten everything for 100$ does that mean he's selling everything for 100$ (to get his money back?) - No, he's ultimately selling everything for it's actual value, not what he paid for it
Yep, had that feeling too
Aye, he was just saying what he got into it for to save face in taking what it was worth to the buyers.
Stole it when doing some drywall repairs.😂
That’s exactly what I was thinking! He said he paid $6500 in the beginning to the cameras and then he told the guy he paid $4500…. I wouldn’t buy shit from this dude
The patience on display here is inspiring 🤣
14:24 worst comment he made, “I don’t want to lose money!” 10/10 when you’re selling to a reseller, you’re going to lose money. If you want to make your money back or more, sell it yourself!!
Indeed!
Right lmao he wanted like 6 grand for all that crap and buddy was like "Best I can do is 2 for it all" lol
So, th dude paid $4500 without knowing how much it was really worth, and now he's mad no one will cover his loss?
My dad owned a comic store when I was a kid and did ball card shows and took me. Seeing this guy reminded me of how many times you get this exact situation. So many guys just like this claiming they know exactly the worth based off unsold eBay listings and not taking into consideration your overhead. Not to mention they take up a whole day of labor going back and forth with you till the point you don’t even wanna look at it. It’s the part of the business that really feels like work.
Yup. If he’s so confident of the value, he needs to sell it on eBay his damn self.
There is nothing as infuriating when somebody shows me what something is selling for on eBay, as they scroll down through 100 listings for the same item. If 50 guys are selling it for 100 bucks, and nobody is buying it, it’s not worth 100 bucks. Old doesn’t always mean high dollar. If you sell it for 100 and it’s finally goes for 50, then it was only worth 50. People need to learn how selling to a retail shop works. He’s not running a museum, he’s running a business
@@thegodfatheroftoys3349only slow people look at what’s for sale. Completed sold listings only.
@@thegodfatheroftoys3349 I see that from time to time. Instead of filtering it to the "Sold" listing, which shows how much someone is willing to pay for an item and how many were sold in the last few months.
Yes. He needed to you use the Rick from Pawn Star line. You know. I am running a business. I have overhead and payroll to meet. If I buy it I have to wait for a buyer so it sits the shelf. I have to put it in a nice frame to make it sellable.
Dude is a KISS collector , he doesn’t know the value of anything
To be fair if you want retail money sell it yourself, what kind of person tries to sell retail to a retailer.
The majority of America lmao. And most want more tbh 🤷
The value of anything is whatever the other guy is willing to pay for it.
Not when there’s plenty of recent sales data out there for all to see. How do you think he’s coming up with offer amount? What you’re saying only applies to unique or one of a kind items with no real data to back up the price.
Your 100% right the store is not in the business just to break even or loose money
Just come across your channel and this was my first video. impressed how you kept your carm with the customers.
Thanks pawn stars Rick the lowballer 😂
Of course ! A dude asked me : i' m looking for a Luke stormtrooper on vintage Potf card . I give you 300. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok clown, stay away.
“But it’s got a yoda in there” is my favorite quote from this video
Original 1977 Baby Yoda!!!
Yoda was 80/81
The joke obviously dropped a steamy turd on your head as it flew over.
Lololol
Guy showed up next day with grandma's Beanie baby collection ready to deal
ROFL!!!!
Been down that route myself so I totally get this joke!His starting price would be 75k for Lady Di.Ebay sold are at 1 dollar meanwhile.
The seller didn’t have a clue and showed his complete ignorance. The expert/toy store owner was very fair with him. Fun to watch.
This guy was the most obvious type of grifter - "dead friend," "I paid this much," pretending to not be knowledgeable yet every item is stickered with its actual value. Too many red flags.
Trying to pass newer weapons as original… dude knew what he was doing. The list of red flags is long.
Also the seller has no interest in anything he has when he is explaining the pieces to him, yeah yeah you can put a gun with princess Leia. No dumbass she has to have the correct gun that goes with her. He thinks because he drove 2 and half hours he gets whatever price he wants? Dude that old lady took you for a big ride
I have my doubts he actually paid that "old lady" that much or even if she exists at all.@@2-pistols
It’s 100% his personal collection ain’t pulling the wool over my eyes
seems liket he dude had a stall or something with all the sticker pricing
It's a generational thing. GI Joe nostalgists are pushing 70, Hot Wheels 65, and Star Wars in their 50s. The competitive market is entrepreneurs collecting their childhood 20-30 years previously, not 40-60 years because there's fewer people wanting the same thing.
I wonder what will happen to the Pokemon card market when 90's kids turn 70
I don't buy for a second that he paid 4500 dollars for all that crap lol.
You were really honest with the guy. Unfortunately, as the generation who played with these Joes dies off, there will be fewer and fewer collectors for them. I'm a child of the 80's, so I personally have no nostalgia for these items except for the Star Wars and a few of those hot wheels. I did however love the artwork on those Batman prints. Great episode!
Thanks! Yea, and I think Star Wars has more lasting power than the 12 inch. Maybe because of the new universe.
Probably tells everyone his Kiss stuff is worth over a million dollars
How could this be so boring but yet sooooo entertaining?
Watching a nerd argue with a Bozo😂
Doubt he paid $4500 for that stuff. I bet he got it for free or much much lower. He was trying to grift TF with that number. Everyone upset with TF, well the seller doesn't have to sell it to them. They gave him an offer, a simple no thanks and be on his way. The stuff he had is practically junk. The Star Wars cases were the best thing. Everything else was very worn and mostly undesirable.
I don’t think he paid for it. If he did he was probably trying to grift an old lady and screwed himself.
Probably he got it all for next to nothing. Looked on ebay and figured he'd make 4500$
I don’t think that is necessarily true. He said it was his friend and the man that died (as just about every collector ever) over values his collection based on outdated market prices. His wife was probably told or had an idea of the outdated value that he bragged to her about. The fat man paid under what he was told the value was. He was even talking how he was under the impression he vastly undervalued them at a toy show to “blow them out” but obviously they didn’t sell, which shows he didn’t have a grasp on the market.
They probably paid him to take the stuff
This guy seemed like he thought his sob story would make him rich, and expected him to complete the pieces of the sets for him...
There's so many people like this in collecting who don't understand that value is relative. The value can only be what buyers are willing to pay, what you originally paid for it is irrelevant.
I just realized this episode that this is very much shot like a documentary series. I don't know who you are camera man, but your killing it. If you are also the editor your killing that too. The tension was real this episode.
He is the cinematographer and the editor! @MattWaltonChannel on youtube
It’d drive me mad running a store like this having to deal with people who say they know what they’re talking about when in fact they don’t have a clue, don’t listen, are half asleep and have an overinflated idea of value.
Dude thought he got a steal from his friends mom because she had no idea what they were worth, but he got hosed because he didn't have a clue
😂😂
This guy doesnt listen, and does respect the rules of the hobby. You cant just throw random accessories in with a figure and say its good. So in the end, mom made all the money😂
LOL sounds like mom swindled this guy to get this crap out of her house ha ha ha
The fact he never stopped talking is the first red flag
filling empty space. artifice and subterfuge
Drives me nuts people walking in to a store expecting to sell to them for retail price.
Don't always take your friends word on their collection value. Don't always buy it blind off their family.
Wait til guys family tries to sell the Kiss stuff to no one wanting to buy it
The problem with a lot of this stuff is most collectors in the hobby now have no idea what it even is, I would suggest that most 12 inch Joe collectors probably already have most of the more common stuff, finding new people getting into 12 inch is most likely impossible at this point.
This guy gets it
You made a great point in this video that I haven’t seen people comment on. The market buyers for old GI Joe dolls are starting to age out. There are not many people who are out there that have that emotional attachment to them, hence the 3 3/4 figures are more in demand. In about 20 years, there will be less of them, and the market will be for things like power rangers and stuff from the early to mid 90s
Wasn’t that complicated the guy had unrealistic expectations.. oh and he was lying about getting that stuff for 4k. He’s used that number as leverage. 😂😂
This is pretty sad... No matter how large your collection, how much it's worth, and how long it's taken to collect it will one day, most likely be bargained off out of tubs, at yard sales, or boxed up and forgotten
Depends what is it barbie plastic figures will definitely follow this road
Yep. Don’t fall in love with material goods. They’re really only rented by you while you’re here.
I know I have some stuff that’s worth a little bit, but when I go, family members mostly don’t want to hold onto that stuff forever - and they don’t feel about it the way you do. More than half of it will end up in a landfill. 🤷♂️
Carry them with you in your heart, all you need is one to represent many. Grow up your an adult, stop playing with Toys.
Buddy, you have about 15 or 20 minutes before everybody who knows who the $6 million man is is 6 feet under
I know a guy who owns a few comic shops in south Florida. I've also frequented his competition. Nobody would have been as generous with this guy. Ryan offered him 2000$ ? All the shops I know would have thrown 800$ offered for all the stuff and wouldn't have gone above 1200$. And that would have been a fair offer. Ryan's 2k$ was a gift. He would have had to catalog it all. Which is time and money. Store it or display it which takes up valuable space. And sit on it which may or may not increase in value. Decrease is more then likely considering the state of Star wars ATM.
True Star Wars merch is going down… the movies and tv shows have been god awful…
@@kevlarunderwear22 Star Wars toys ain't worth shit anymore. I'm really glad I unloaded my Black series during the pandemic before the values started to decline.
People seem to think loose vintage Star Wars are a gold mine. They don't realize the accessories are worth more than the figure. The figures weren't so easily lost as the weapons
If you get vintage stuff....(1940's-early 1970's)...sell to a collector...NOT a dealer!
Not always true
Usually depends on how fast you want to get rid of it. Finding the right collector can take some time.
I have been reading the comments and I am taken by how personal many of the comments. Talking about the man's weight, appearance and so on. If he does not know what he is doing, or has his own idea of the value or is trying to scam that is one thing and legit to discuss. Myself, I try to learn a bit about what I am trying to trade to have a better understanding of what I am doing. I personally would never FULLY trust someone who I am trying to sell to, because they are looking the lowest price and if they can scam a seller, well they probably would do that to. It is a 2 way street. But to attack someone for being overweight and not looking well that is wrong. I would wonder what I might think if I saw what some of the commenters looked like. Sorry for venting.
Good points.
Comment section is straight childish cancer.
They all read like a 14yr old snot nosed kid wrote it.
"Sorry for venting."
No need to apologize for telling the truth.
@@michaelm.1947100% 😊❤
What’s a scam? How is somebody scammed? I hate when people throw that word around. It’s simple. Somebody offers an item, they offer a price. It the offer is not what you are looking for, walk away. If he can sell it for 100, you will not get 100. He’s not a broker, he’s a dealer.
He rolls in with 4 plastic crates of garbage & expects not to get scalped😂 were it so easy.
THIS GUY CREEPS ME OUT HE GIVES ME A JOHN WAYNE GACEY FIBE.
Are we really surprised the boomer who just hoards toys all day has an abrasive personality?
We need more. Absolutely digging this channel.
More every Saturday Morning at 9!
It is good to show the reality of things too. Often things don't work out like the seller imagines when he comes in. That is not bad, just being realilistic and fair. Too many of these would be depressing (even if realistic) but showing some comes across as a honest and true.
Thanks for appreciating the episode!
"I just sorta put everything together, I'm sure you do the same thing" Na man.. na... read the room these aren't fucking casuals here LOL
As someone who ran a comic store a couple decades ago, this gave me anxiety watching because I've been on both sides of the deal. You feel bad for the guy if he truly paid that much for what he brought in, but it's also frustrating how people think whatever they value something at is what the store should pay for it. Rent is incredibly expensive, employees are expensive, electricity is expensive, insurance on the merchandise, there's so much that goes into running a business that people don't take into account when they come in thinking you should pay full value. Some books we purchased would sit for upwards of a year before they sold, so you are paying to store that inventory in the meantime. 30%-50% of retail really is about as much as anyone should realistically expect to get.
I had a lot of those toys in the 80s. GI Joe and Star Wars stuff. I had a large Millennial Falken. Thing is, I played with mine. Blew them up with fire crackers and such.
Many are still buried under the shade of an old oak tree at my childhood home where I played. So many good memories.
The way toys were meant to be appreciated! Not kept in a box to “appreciate “.
I occasionally sell older toys to my local comic shops. They’re super nice guys, but I know walking in they’re not going to give me close to retail value on anything I bring in. It’s a business, and they have profit margins to maintain. You have to sell direct to the buyer yourself if you want the most money.
Terrible!
That guy with a sob story trying to scam the shopkeeper.
:-0
the star wars stuff was junk , all in pretty bad shape , im in the UK and my vintage star wars stuff is in great condition and its worth nothing
You sell to a collector...NOT a dealer! You'll get the best price...
as a former antique dealer I cant stand sellers like this. You have to work five times as hard with them and they all paid to much for the stuff. Always someone dead tied to the collection
There is a small timeframe where adults want to collect the things that made them happy as kids. Once you are outside of the frame, vintage mass-produced consumer goods lose most of it’s value. Practically nobody gives a crap about vintage-era GI Joe accessories anymore.
this is spot on, i have tons of things i saved from when i was a kid. and then ive added a few things over the years. everyone who sees my collection of stuff always says how much is this worth! i always say "nothing its just cool to have". at this point i cant bring myself to downsize against the ebay competition for pennies. i have a few afa figures that will sell easily and make a profit. but the majority of my stuff i told my niece to sell when i die for whatever she can get for herself since itll all be profit for her.
Yep. Market fluctuates. Toys are meant to be bought, owned, and played with.
@@toyfederation Correct. Every time I see a mint boxed toy from the 60s and 70s I think of a kid who never came out of hospital.
It takes time and work to sell old items only a few people would pay the high price for. When u sell a big lot at one time no one gives full value. Patience and time get full value.
I paid market value for something as a collector, buying off of another collector, and all parties were happy. Then after about a week, that guy started emailing me about how he'd underpriced everything and he should have sold it for more, or not sold it at all, or sold it but somehow also hung onto it, it was just ridiculous. Weeks.
Some people will be unhappy that they came out getting more than they asked for. Some people will be unhappy that they got an item for free because they didn't cost the seller more time or money as an inconvenience. Everyone wants to be the prettiest pony in the universe, and believe their stuff is the most awesome best stuff ever even if you could walk into a store today and buy it off a shelf at retail for less.
At the end of the day the question is, do you enjoy the thing? If a person can't enjoy the things without some element of exploiting someone else or feeling superior, they aren't collecting. They're just hoarding with a vindictive attitude.
I don't like it when people add on some story into whatever they want to sell. It's always "somebody died" or "I paid this for them" or "I need money for some sad story thing that happened". Regardless it doesn't matter to the buyer and it's hard to not just say "I don't care" when they keep mentioning it.
When you're the one lugging a collection through the front door looking to liquidate it more than likely you're going to take a hit. The exception to the rule might be when you're the original buyer and took care of it all for all that time, got lucky at a storage unit auction, estate sale, ect...
Also the buyers might get things for a decent price with room for profit and the items just sit around for years or never end up selling. You can get screwed even when you think you made a deal.
If he wanted top dollar he would have to put in the work researching and selling on eBay. Selling to a store for a much lower price gets rid of all that responsibility
Pawn stars would have given him $50 store credit…he got a good offer here
Ha!
oooof this was hard to watch. im a little over 40 and those big dolls were never appealing to me. the market for those like the buyer said it just aint there at all. you really got to dig to find someone who wants that stuff. plus a bunch of crap accesories that no one will ever really need or look for. that stuff will sit forever. the offer was pretty generous as is. this guy dont understand that the collectors for that era are dying off, not interested, dont want to spend on it and are minimizing.
100%. THEY ARE DOLLS!!! Not ACTION FIGURES! Not many guys want DOLLS!!! lol
This guy was having difficulty breathing lol he doesnt have much time either lol
Damn🤣
Yes, one day you too will be an older human, hope you live a better life since you're so knowledgeable.
Looks like he may have had a stroke or two already.
Generations get older, their memories become precious, and all the crap from their childhoods go up in price. Then they die off and the market dries up, then you've got a a garage full of literal garbage.
It all ends up in a landfill at some point.
Dude doesn’t look like he’s missing any meals, so 🤷♂️
Yeah..the comment he made about the market “aging “ hit hard…but I sure don’t want that crap again , let alone pay top dollar for it..
So true. Applies to retro computing too. I feel we’re approaching peak value in that market now.
The Seller was just obnoxious.
2:25
Star Wars toys from the 60’s?
Wow!
That was the best period of Star Wars
One of many things I do not miss about the pawnbroking industry. Poorly-kept items a person thinks has collector value in shit condition.
At the end of the day, the dude just had to feel like he “won”. I commend you for not exploding with frustration. I don’t have that cool lol.
People need to realize that the store needs to resell these toys to make profit. Whenever I sell something to a game store, I don't expect to be given market value. If I want market value then I'll sell everything myself. And I give props to the worker who was very patient.
I have been collecting various things over the years, and it always amazes me when someone sells to a store and expects eBay prices from the store. That top value is rare and bidding wars can increase the price. However its nice he gave his friends mom good money, again so much work goes into a store like all operation costs, and the time it takes to sell it. I know it's hard to accept, just like my comics are not worth what i want. The option is to sell it on your own if you want top value. Important video for perspectives on collecting. Glad i subscribe, thanks pixel dan
A great statement! Couldn't agree more! And yes, Thank you to Pixel Dan for getting you here!
One thing about collecting you have to learn before you get to this guy's age... oftentimes, you're lucky if you manage to break even. "Vintage" doesn't exactly mean "gold mine" unless it's sealed, complete, not yellowed AND it's something people want.
I don’t think people stop to think about what you just posted. The last vintage Star Wars figs came out 40 years ago almost. Yet with eBay, you can find a loose figure anytime. Carded and boxed examples are still out there for a price. That means there was a ton of that stuff made. I feel bad for people who started keeping stuff form the mid 90s and beyond, when people stopped opening toys and bought them to hoard.
I’m a bike mechanic. I buy, fix, and sell bikes. It’s hilarious how some people will stick to their guns when it comes to prices they want to get for their junk that they don’t even really know about. I constantly have to go into great detail about all the work their bike needs and parts that need to be replaced, which is why my offer is 1/5th of what a pristine example goes for. Even better is when someone thinks they have a “race bike” or “old Schwann” that turns out to be literally worthless except as yard art. I’ve even stood next to someone, looked up the serial number of a bike to show them it’s not from the 60s, it’s re-pop from the early 2000s that just happens to be extremely rusty and old looking, and they accused me of tampering with the website as though that is more logical than them being wrong. “I know what I got” usually means the opposite.
Love this content! This should be a television show. I can watch this all day long! Great stuff
Stay tuned.
Seemed like a good patient transaction to me.
As a man who works at a large collectible toys shop in Texas that sees walk in sales daily, no way in hell would we buy anything from that man, he drove a long way to get outside the area where he lives to a shop that didn’t know his face. Could’ve been that he came that far to get the items out of city limits in event he had problems from the family for stolen property (if that’s what happened). I know Ernie would’ve politely told him to go pound sand. Little things like wrapping plastic around figures to discourage the buyer from taking a closer look for small cracks those figures are known for is one red flag. When someone says the item is in a factory sealed box and the sealing tape is still in place, most people don’t realize that people just use a hot hair dryer or heat gun to warm it up to loosen the tape adhesive to get inside then re-seal the box, so never assume it’s never been opened unless you like buying bricks labeled as an X-wing fighter.
The shop owner (Apologies i forget his name) seems like he knows his stuff so i am sure he was careful, you dont know what he checked off camera. I do agree with you though to not trust a stranger at face value and inspect all the items for damage and tampering.
Hold on, $6m dollar man isn't worth $6m ,,, WTF
If he paid $4500 to help out his friend's mom, then he's also putting a price on his act of charity. I know that's an expense on him, but expecting the get reimbursed for that doesn't set well with me. In the end, I don't really care, but you need to ask yourself if you're really being charitable if you expect to profit from it later on.
Fair statement
Great point. I agree.
This episode kinda reflects how I feel when I argue with people who say physical videogames and consoles from the 1980s and 90s are going to be expensive and hold their value forever. I try to tell them that no one cares what is 'rare' or how 'valuable' one of their 'grails' is.... almost EVERYTHING collectible will be worth little to nothing eventually. I see these fools with NES games going on about how this piece of hardware or that game is worth thousands - and I think, _"do you not understand that kids today do not care about those things, let alone value them?"_
We are even seeing it now, as a lot of these old games that where being fought over by resellers at yardsales several years back, are ow sitting on store listings, and in Mom & Pop shops, gathering dust - because the heat around collecting them has cooled off (as that demographic has entered their 40s and 50s). I was born in the 80s, and now I'm bloody 40 years old!!!! Jesus Christ time flies. Pretty soon the things my generation grew up with - like Ninja Turtles, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Marvel Action Figures, Transformers.... those are not going to be worth much in another decade or so.
It's math: Most collectors are men.... men live on average 5-10 years less than women. The prime collecting years are 18 - 35, and after that the crowd of collectors who stay with the hobby shrinks dramatically. Most the people who grew up with 12" GI Joe's are currently 60 - 75. The people who grew up with Atari, Intellevision, Collecovision and toys like Kenner Star Wars and Match box are on average between 45 - 60. Those of us who grew up with 4" Gi Joe, He-man, Ninja Turtles, Transformers, Power Rangers, NES, Sega Genesis, Gameboy NES.... we are between 35 - 45 years-old.
This all goes for comics and other collectibles too.
The kids today and for along time now, did not grow up caring about toys for the most part, and almost all of them are not attached to physical objects or certain brands or game consoles. If you were born in the late 90s and since.... you only care about what is on your phone screen, and the digital world. NO ONE IS GOING TO REPLACE US. If your holding on to things from pop-culture past for monetary purposes, then SELL IT NOW! Very little of it is going to hold its value, let alone be worth MORE?
If you collect these things, do it because they mean something to you, and expect it to end up in a trash heap somewhere or a basement after you pass on. Humans, objects, even culture - DOES NOT LIVE ON FOREVER. Everything has a end, and the world goes on. You cannot expect your things to hold value to future generations, and you cannot expect other people your age to pay high prices for something you still think is worth what it was a decade (or decades) ago.
When you fail to do that, you get a grown man in the floor crying and having a late life crisis, because his brain just can't accept that no one (generally speaking) wants his 'valuable' stuff, and those small niche hardcore collectors of whatever it is, that do... they are not going to pay what was top dollar years and years ago, when the market for it is literally dying off, and cool as ice.
And then they get mad, when people have to break reality to them.
Born in 90 and I grew up playing with Star Wars and gijoe until I was 12-13. Kids now a days have a personal gaming computer in their bedroom by that time lol crazy
Same thing in the car market. 1950s cars have decreased in value because the demographic that had nostalgia for those cars is dying out.
It should be pointed out here though too things went off their head during 2020-21 in basically all areas of collecting and investment, now the economy has turned and with inflation everything has cooled off and will continue to do so, a lot of people are not smart enough to judge the state of markets properly. I think you are making some pretty broad generalisations too about what current young people and incoming generations want, if what you say was true then nothing really old would have any value anymore but that is clearly not the case, maybe it becomes more niche and only stand out stuff as things get older, but there always tends to be a market.
Certain toys like pokemon and star wars still have a modern day following from kids. Especially with the movies and videogames
Thats why i now start selling my movie poster and photo collections. While posters with good artwork will have some value forever, most are worthless. Luckily i collected Horror movies which are still popular but it also change in a few years. Movies are not important part of teenager life anymore and thats where the retro collection comes from as you correctly said.
What will the current generation collect? I don't think there i a lot.
If he paid the mom $4500 then the one that robbed him was the mom. When you try to sell a whole collection to a vendor or toy store, you're never going to get what you paid for or what you think they're worth. A business needs to make money off the sell. No one can actually believe that TF was going to give him more than $2k for all of this. TF has bills to pay and god only knows how long it would take to sort out all those toys, plus how long it's going to take to sell them all off. If that guy wanted more, he should have sold it on eBay or forums.
Nice to be understood
There’s no way in hell he shelled out $4500 for all that crap, maybe $500 at the most. People his age get access to deals like that all the time, his peers all have this old crap. He sold those hot wheels for $100, it was like 60 cars an expert would have valued those closer to $300-$600. Guy cleary was just working off an estimate of $4500 and hoped to get more than that or most of it by saying he paid it. There really wasn’t anything in there to justify paying over $2000, I doubt he’s going to give a 90 year old lady $4500 for a couple country yard sale bins, if he did that tgat just makes him the biggest sucker ever.
This guy(the older dude or the seller)is why i quit going to tot shows...they think anything over ten years old is worth a fortune. Besides, around me you cant even find anything older, its all stuff from 5-6 years ago and way too high and if, if you find anything from the 70s-80s, they think the stuff is some kind of rare, limited gold bars LOL. Toy shows are a joke now.
Fold out tables are cheap and convenient. Double knee replacement is not.
My knees always hurt watching these videos
I used to run a sports card shop.. this was painful to watch because it reminds me how many times I had to crush people's dreams when they thought they had a retirement IRA in their closet, and I had to be the one telling them it was next to worthless today. Heart goes out to both the guy who over paid and the guys have to try to gentle let him down.
As a former dealer you also know this guy was full of shit, and his repeated attempts to convince he paid $4500 for that stuff was a ridiculously obvious (and lame) ploy to attempt to convince the shop owner to "at least give him his money back."
meh I think he was telling the truth because he took more than half of it back with him@@thepaulhenderson
The only way to get "Top Dollar" is to sell it all yourself. But then you will find that some items move fast while other stuff sits forever. Of course , you have to take less $$ if you want someone else to move it all for you.
Its all worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it. Not necessarily what you WANT to get for it.
Word! That's the cardinal rule everybody seems to ignore.
Smartest comment in here
Both these guys look like they’re waiting for someone to tap them on their shoulder and say the gig is up
Once someone starts complaining or describing small details bout 1 thing you know they bout to rip you off
Same attitude with guys selling Harley Davidsons, buddy...you overpaid for the bike to begin with and there is a Harley for sale on every corner. Unless you have a mint 1930s-1950s...im not paying off your loan for you.
You could tell immediately by that guys demeanor that there was no way to make a deal with him unless tou gave him his top dolla price
He OVERPAID just as most KISS collectors do!!! 😂😂😂
No lie.
Kiss collectors are passionate, but they often don’t realize that THEIR love for the band doesn’t automatically means big dollars at resale. They’re often pretty delusional.
So to help ur dead friend's mom out and u offer her half what u think his stuff is worth and then find out it ain't worth half that ? That's called karma .
Been doing this a long time and I've learned a thing or two about collectibles over the years. 1. Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it 2. The popularity and value of vintage toys continuously FLUCTUATES 3. Before you venture into a vintage toystore to sell your items, DO YOUR RESEARCH and know as much as possible about what you want to sell 4. Any store will ALWAYS offer you less so they can sell for a profit and therefore stay in business
That said, this gentleman most doubtedly paid $4500 for those items. If he did, he grossly overpaid. He should've bitten the bullet, done his homework and taken the time to check each item for completion, damage, etc. and then posted them for sale on their corresponding FB toy groups, online classified sites, at toy shows or lastly ebay. Great video by the way!
a lot more patient than I would have been, after 10 minutes (who knows how much time in actual unedited time) I would have said "Sorry buddy, we're not going to make a deal, good bye"
Nah, we can always come to a deal!
Seller wants the retail price... funny.
I kind of understand how people see prices online and get this fantasy about how much money they're gonna make, but that's MAYBE what you can get if you sell everything separately by yourself, which, hey surprise, that's what these shop owners have to do to make a livelihood
@@zibberebbiz Time is money! Selling stuff takes alot of time. I prefer trade with other collectors than sell because selling is a pain.
this is the end of every collection.
The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you. Even if the experts agree something is worth $100 you still have to find the person to pay you $100!
A business is not going to pay you $100 for something they can only sell for $100!
'The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you.'
You can literally say that about anything.
Because it’s true. Like, literally.
The perspective of a business owner with overhead is a far different thing than a guy cruising thrift stores and flipping some items on eBay.
Unfortunately sellers like that gentleman are getting more and more common. Holding onto the "value" they once were. Definitely handled that with professionalism!
Thank you. Sometimes it's hard for people to understand how our business works.
I’m a collector of my favorite properties but my rule of thumb is to buy what I love. If it’s worth something down the road that’s a bonus.
From >$4k to 750 😂😂😂
I had no clue that Bill Parcells was into action figure collectibles.
This was brutal to watch. The old man just didn’t listen. Love the videos but that guy was rough to get through.
It’s tough to let go sometimes
@@toyfederation that’s very true.
Just 1 star wars box he said he could sell for 600
He was gonna give him 500 for all star wars boxes figures and accessories. Wym he was hard to get through. Make 100$ on the box and just give him all the figures and accessories for free lol¿
That old man didn’t listen because he was trying to pull a fast one the entire time. “All those million dollar man cases, I mean Star Wars” “what but you said $600, oh valued at $600 well I’m leaving you lots of room with the other stuff you’re not buying how about $600. Practically tongue tied the buyer, he needed snacks afterwords.Guy was the classic baby boomer shister. He didn’t listen because he wanted the buyer to forget what he said or cave in simple as that.
I love how people trying to sell stuff use the price they paid for it as if that has any bearing on the current negotiation.
You getting hosed in a previous transaction does not get passed on to me.
I ALWAYS tell my daughters…
sweethearts. Between the comics, Haslabs, StarWars VC, and RC cars. You could probably sell everything for 500 bucks when Dad dies… 😂