Building a DIY FLOATING DOCK at our OFF-GRID PROPERTY (PART 1) Cement Piers & First Dock
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- Building a DIY FLOATING DOCK at our OFF-GRID PROPERTY (PART 1) Cement Piers & First Dock
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Sorry Ali I saw that coming! I kinda knew the barrels would shift!🤣 made the same mistake myself... awesome on the dock build, will make fishing a lot more fun... 👍🙏💥🎉🎊 I was just looking, can you make a wooden spill gate for the pipe? The thought was, a gate you can slid up and down to control the level!
Don't mess with a pond that's working. Raising the water level in that pond may make it prone to flooding/flowing over the bank or spillway.
There are stainless strapping that will hold your barrels in place for ever!
You may need to add another barrel to stabilize it a bit. Just Al on it and the 1 barrel nearly "disappears.". Just a suggestion.
or add a wing on each side with a barrel under each. more dock space
Two things : 1)- why didn't you put any rebar in those footings and 2) You know you can fill those drums with packing peanuts, It's a cheaper way for great flotation than filling with foam.
Why park your trailer so far from your work??
That's a LOT of extra carrying and going back and forth.
Mark Norwood.....He and others I have noticed do the same thing! They never pull closed enough to where they are working!(when they can) God Bless!
I don't understand all the condescending and less than helpful comments. Lots of negative Nellies out there. Nice job Al.
Well said Loren. A lot of *"I would have"* or *"You could have"* comments!!!
And the snide comments about the family’s financial position! I realize that I am an old fart, but I was taught that other people’s financial status is none of my damn business. So please respect that there are limits to the comments you should make on here!
Thank you I am just glad to be able to watch a video of this couple building a life and they share it
Lol at "that's not going nowhere"
Famous last words 🤣
What could go wrong!!! Lol
Reminds me SO much of my brother. I have learned to bite my tongue. I love him too much to want to start an argument over something silly, like dropping the old refrigerator off the deck and down into the neighbors yard.
I was like man he is gonna lose that on first good bump...then 5 sec later, lol.
It seems backwards to adjust the water level of the pond to match the dock instead of the other way around.
Gina is so worried about Al falling in. ………So, he gets wet. Stands up in 4 feet of water. And, has wet feet for the day. I don’t see a problem. 😁
LMAO 🤣
If you want a deeper larger pond, good reason to proceed. Might consider adding a step down from the pilings to the walk way. If any of your family or friends visiting have any physical challenges you could ramp the transition vs step down to give access to all. Pond seems pretty happy at it's level...sometimes simple ideas like an extra foot of water opens up flood gates (no pun intended) :D not a homesteader, but enjoy all your family shares about your journey. God bless all of you as you transition one one home to the next....Jim
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy watching your family accomplish your goals. You are all working hard together to make your lives enjoyable. Thanks for sharing.
Good morning 👨🌾🇮🇪. Thursday morning coffee club ☕️.....to enjoy on the dock 🚣
Howdy Ger!
Sam Valentine morning Sam
Gooooood Morning the dock will be a nice place to have a cup of coffee on
Good morning Ger ☕️🌅
Hello Ger, have a really good day!
DO NOT CHANGE THE POND that is working so well, wait a year or so to see what the pond does from spring-summer-fall-winter.
When you build your other docks use 2 barrels on the end. That way if the single barrel gets a crack in it the dock will still float???
You should be building a temporary shelter for your tractor & equipment now not docks!
Check out VW family farm they built a huge open-air building that could work for Al until he moves on the new land!
One piece of advise on the equipment that has hydraulic cylinders. Try to leave the cylinder ram retracted as far as you can to keep them protected from the weather. Even though the rods are hard chromed, they can still rust and that will destroy the seals and cause hydraulic leaks which can be expensive to repair or replace.
yep totally agree on this i was a hydraulic repairman for 40+ years with the Government, changed many a set of seals due to the rams corroding. when you grease you unit put a light coat of grease on the cylinders this will help protect them.
Aren’t there caps that should be put on the ends of the hoses when unplugged?
After 20 years at sea, working with hydraulic boat David’s. I wholeheartedly agree !!
@@rodfair5698 As a fellow Navy Veteran, thank you for your service.
Why do you park your trailer so faraway from the work seems less to carry so faraway from the build. Carrying 60lb bags of concrete would be easier if closer as well as wet pressure treated lumber. Just thinkin of the strain on yourself. Now you need to build another the same as the first to make a T. By makin a t the dock willb more stabil and less bouncy So Gina doesn't freak out.
Stated in video that another section 8' x 8' to be added to end.
has to have room to video the process
2 barrels side by side will help with the stabilization, single barrel will always rock!
I wish, I had your confidence in working with wood this way. Not sure, raising the water level is a good idea, though. It will have an impact on the surrounding area and ground as well.
I would use banding strap to hole those barrels on the dock, I built docks before. Straps and then bolts.
Won't the chemicals in the pressure treated wood poison the fish
I Googled that and you are right. They use copper sulfate in treating the wood and that does kill the fish.
Well if it is going to poison the fish, won’t then said fish (if eaten) poison or make sick the person or persons who eat the fish? Yeah, I would worry about that.
There have been changes in the past 10 years that have removed the arsenic from treated lumber. Chromated copper arsenate (CCA) was the chemical compound that was banned by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on December 31, 2003. Pressure treated lumber no longer uses CCA.
@@stevetuttle5472
Oh boy.....am I glad to hear that 🙂
Just like 'More Cowbell', you need one or two additional barrels for flotation.
probably need two barrels on the end of the dock, maybe build a leanto to keep your tractor and implements under cover.
Also doing a coat of wax every 6 months
Won’t the chemicals in the pressure-treated pollute the water?
Not really. Once the whole thing is built with the proper number of floats, the lumber will not contact the water and any bleed from rain contact will be greatly reduced after it sun dries for a month or so. The amount diluted over that size pond will be part per trillion and well within safety guidelines. Once it sun dries for a month or two, I would coat it with a product like Thompson's Water Seal to avoid skin contact with the lumber myself as that is a proven food grade coating with good traction even when wet. Just flood coat it as you cannot do two coats. It is hydrophobic and won't take a second coat. Nothing else works like Thompson's so do not be fooled by others. Once coated you can lay out to your hearts content and not worry about skin contact with poisons. Even if you are not into sunning, climbing onto it from swimming or sitting on the edge with feet in water will mean skin contact with treated wood, so coating stops the risk. Other stain/sealers do not have the same properties and are often slippery when wet. They also are usually not food grade rated so have their own issues. Last thing you want is a slippery dock!!!
I agree with other viewers to not raise the water level of the pond. It's best to work with the natural level than to change what's already been established.
I believe you said you were planning on attaching a dock, when you do the buoyancy of the dock will raise the end of your walkway and reduce the bounce. I recommend finishing the dock before you consider raising the pond level.
When you build the other part of the dock and attach it, it will greatly improve the floating stability of the first part.
That dock will be a nice addition to the pond! Blessings to all.
Get caps for all you hydraulic quick release fittings, dirt and corrosion will give you issues quickly
And please do not use a hammer to disconnect the fittings!
Gooooood morning this morning from the MS gulf coast I hope everyone has a great day
Gooooood Morning
Howdy Erick!
Good morning Erick ☕️🌅
@@samvalentine3206 good morning sam
@@Heisstrong good morning
What was Gina's reaction when she saw that you were swimming all by yourself the other day? I really like this new format where you only post every couple of days. It gives me time to rewatch your videos in between posts. I get to see things I missed from the first time that I watched it. I had up to 60 subscriptions and I whittled them down to about 5 and Lumnah Acres is one of those 5. You guys are GREAT vloggers!!!!! Mahalo from Hawaii!!! Aloooooha!!!!
i think you would have a more stable deck if you had used TWO drums going long ways and next too each other instead of just the one
JudithB Well, never built a dock, but I think 2 barrels on the end, or 3 barrels as wings was a good idea! I would add a swimming ladder on the end too. Boat cleats for the kayaks too. I would be fencing pastures, getting pipe corners cemented in, and road built to house site instead of toys.
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Gooood Morning from MN. We had T storms for an Hr yesterday. Much needed rain...A floating dock?? What could go wrong..??
Hopefully nothing. 😆
It may be me but I think it may be easier to fix the header rather then raise the pond level...but that’s just me...
FYI...always ...always...wash hands after using PT wood before eating...just wash hands period...when cutting indoors don’t breath the dust...I would have used cedar which is plentiful up by you....😫
And why in all that’s Holy would you mix concrete in a 5 gall.bucket 😱😩 mixing pans are so cheap and so much easier...😫😩😩
Maybe put some stabilizing pontoons to steady the dock or your woman will never enjoy it with you...👈
Put a barrel either side at the furthest out part of the floating platform to give it more stability or you will keep going for a swim when you meant to go fishing 👍
Al, I hate telling you this. After you finished it looked like the dock sunk too much. You should consider adding another barrel, and configuring them side-by-side longitudinally.
I said right after you stated, "that should do it they're not going anyplace," Oh, Al you jinxed yourself:)
I said the same thing! Then I said: "Oh yeah, They going to be going some place!" LOL
I watch with interest as your plans unfold , I like your persistence .
I notice that you do too much walking and carrying goods from trailer to work area, why not park closed, save time and energy as you get older. I'm 77 and did much like you early in life and suffering for it now with back and knee problems from stupid work ethics back then.
Where is your mask? You were breathing a lot of the dust from the cement which is NOT good for your lungs.
Don't recommend raising the water level, you will have multiple consequences to fix as a result.
I would also change the walkway float in two ways, add a second barrel and a couple of feet in length. Both of these can be accomplished easily at the float end with a doubler passing your existing float a couple of feet or more.
I would set the end as you planned on your piers, this will allow movement do to any water level change and easier weed control at that end.
Al you should have made the frame from aluminum. Now you have wood leaching arsenic into your pond. And whatever other chemicals that are used. Not very organic
Well said Sir!!
There have been changes in the past 10 years that have removed the arsenic from treated lumber. Chromated copper arsenate (CCA) was the chemical compound that was banned by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on December 31, 2003. Pressure treated lumber no longer uses CCA.
You can see how rich Al is. He can afford to use a fifty dollar battery for a hammer.
Perry I was kind of not sure I was seeing right myself 🤣🤣🤣
The purpose of a floating dock, is so it can rise and fall with the level of the water. You should have embedded large eye bolts in the concrete and connected the dock to them with heavy chains. And stop cutting up all your wood to exact sizes only cut what you have to the wood could have hung over the sides of the frame why waste the wood it also didn't have to be exactly 8' or 4 ' and build it wide enough to be more stable use barrels on both sides width wise and make it wider it will be more comfortable to use. you don't have to take my word for it look up building a floating dock on the internet and build more than 1 segment and connect them with chains loosely so as not to be too rigid. You can also buy and build floating docks sturdy enough to tie a boat up to.
Have you thought about following that pond outflow to see if any trout have established elsewhere?
I knew your load of barrels wouldn’t make it should have cinched them around the middle anyway gooooood morning Lumnah family from Melville Saskatchewan have a blessed day
I was thinking the SAME thing! ☺️
Good Morning Lumnah Family. When are the plans for the house going to get started or sharing the floor plan with use. Have to love NH the granite state. We had Thundering and lighting with a Tornado warning, sirens went off at 1:30 am here in SE Wisconsin rain all day today. I enjoy the rain myself 🐓🐷🐐🐣🦃🦆🐟God Bless and stay safe family.
We are in the works on a few things. We will be sharing some details soon! There’s been a lot of planning lining things up.
@@LumnahAcres cant wait I am so excited for you all. 🤗
I just hope that if he uses Jamaica Cottage shop, he pays for the structures’! Dominic needs to make money too, and not just sponsor other people’s builds!
Raising the pond is a bad idea b whoever designed it designed it for that height. Should have built your dock to fit and add more barrels. Love your channel just don’t think this is a good idea
At least it wasn’t a half hour of mowing grass
Why do you follow a channel that you, obviously, don't like??
We had a floating dock at our lake property. It was about 30’ long and widened out at the end to about 12’ wide. We had three barrels per 10 ft section. It was a larger lake. We could pull the ski boat up to it.
If i was you , i'd buy a saw mill. You own enough trees now you can make your own lumber.
Saw mills are back ordered fir almost a year right now.
@@LumnahAcres Al with your skills you could build one yourself. Now that would be some great content.🤔😉😀 We all love watching you build stuff. Great channel.
@@LumnahAcres Ah ok.
@@RJ-fs3mj ~ Matthew Cremona built his own and he has a great channel here on TH-cam. I love watching him cut huge trees into slabs and have learned a lot from his videos. I haven't gone back through them yet to see if he shows how he built his sawmill, but he has also built a trailer designed for picking up huge trunks, as well.
@@TXNLaurenMcN Yes. I watch him too. But like to watch the guys build a saw then build a log home. Thats what I like to see.
Y'all watch out for the Al agators... 😂😂😂😂😂😆😣😣🤔
what about setting a couple of your large boulders in to the ponds edge and then anchor to them. Seems it would be easier than pouring all that concrete. And look a lot cooler too.
The grass is looking beautiful!
Raising the water level of your pond it’s going to change the whole ecology of the shoreline.
It will quickly adjust to the new level.
@@joangibson859 as in wash away
Al,
I have had bad luck with barrels leaking/moving...... I use HMWPE encapsulated float blocks. Much better for floating docks in my opinion....
The key part is the "encapsulated" as the old Styrofoam blocks would grow bad algae on them. Bad for the environment.
Been wondering when you intend on building a shed for the protection from the elements of your equipment at the off grid property. I would thing it would have commanded a higher priority that a "floating dock."
I guess different people have different priorities.
Another option, move the container to the pond area and as other builders do buy another container to store equipment during construction, sell it when finished
Good morning everyone from Az..💥💥💥💥
Gooooood Morning
Howdy Cocoadiva!
here is a thought. build a small coffer dam around the drain pipe. the water could rise and then flow over the dam to exit the existing pipe. you could also us a couple of 45 elbows to raise the pipes inlet.
Nice to see you building again.
Give Gina a great big hug. That lady is awesome! Right there beside you, and not afraid of working with tools.
Oh no don’t jump on the dock you might fall in and get more wet
What did she think floating dock ment.
If you raise the water level of the pond, wont you risk your road? The water in the bottom of your footings might be an indication of the water table under the road?
Dock name Trouttanic;.
Good morning! 😊 I gotta admit, that was a cool idea to do a floating dock 😊😆 fun and awesome project 👍
Gooooood Morning
Howdy Agnes!
Seems to me that one of the best time and labour saving tools you want soon is an auger for the PTO on the tractor.
Dont waste your time with a PTO auger, get a hydraulic one that attaches to the excavator. With as much rock and buried wood/roots as you have, you will want the ability to reverse the auger when stuck. Cant do that with a PTO type.
@@python3574 - Good advice, Python!
@@python3574 truer words were never spoken! We have a PTO auger, cuz we never thought about reversing the auger. We didn’t have much in the way of hydraulics
I’m getting ready to start a huge deck project. Treated 2 x 10 x 16‘s went down in price yesterday from $35 each to $17 each. I have no clue why treated lumber could possibly be cheaper than Spruce and for
what you need on the off-grid property is a wood mizer LT70 sawmill make your own wood, you have plenty of trees on the off grind property. also for the new house that you want to build I think it saves a lot of money. and it's also fun to make videos for TH-cam. greetings from the Netherlands
Not code unless you get the lumber dried and graded for a house. However you can use ungraded for outbuildings and barns so it would be wise in the end. Just have to buy framing lumber for any place that is used for human housing.
Did they do a "barrel roll". Badumbum lolol 😂
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Morning everyone!
I like your dock. Reminds me of a raft we had as kids. It lasted for years.
The cheaper lumber was purchased recently now that it gone down in price, the expensive has been around awhile and the company want to still make a little bit of money on it.
Not cheaper in G.B. WI.
Cover for the trout from flying predators , that's why you're the farmer , and good to see lumber prices falling. Its gonna be a very nice week , enjoy kids !
Good morning to everyone at the Lumnah Acres channel!Greetings from Kamakura, Japan! 🇯🇵
Howdy Robert!
Gooooood Morning Japan how’s the gardening going
@@samvalentine3206 Hello Sam! 👋🏾
@@LumnahAcres It’s still going well! 👍🏾
Good evening Robert 🌆👍🏻
Suggestion:
If you are going to be managing hydraulic flow on the property, I would suggest that you invest in a laser transit. Makes life a boatload easier.
I wouldn't mess with the pond level it looks great to me.
Goooooood Morning Lumnahs!!!!!!!!!!
Howdy Ray!
Gooooood Morning
Good morning Ray ☕️🌅
Hi ya Ray, have a good one!
My friend always puts their Christmas trees in their pond. Fish like to hide in it.
Al
I’m convinced you can do almost everything.
I never would have thought of a floating dock.
Really nice👍🏻💕🌻🙏🏻
You’ll figure it out👍🏻🌻
Share some of your rain with us in CA🤗
I read it isn't safe to use pressure treated lumber in or around ponds, it is bad for the fish.
I've been wondering about that myself.
Old news. This is not the old treated lumber from years ago that leached arsenic. Also this will not be in contact with the water once it is floated properly. This is just the walkway to get to the float dock still to be built and Al was playing around in this video to scare Gina and have some fun. You will understand once all is built and installed properly.
@@markpashia7067 Thanks for clearing that up. So the treated lumber with copper doesn't hurt the fish any? That's good to know.
@@StoneKathryn No one is perfectly sure about the new treated as it has not been in use long enough, but in this case with no direct contact with the water and the size of that pond, it would be very unlikely to have any chemical get to parts per billion much less parts per million where most of the limits are set. All bets are off if it had treated posts underwater, but this will float with all wood out of the water when done. I am more concerned about the treated wood and human skin contact as people are kind of careless about washing hands before touching mouth or face. I would seal the top and side surfaces with Thompson's Water Seal for that reason as it is food grade surface sealing in the poisons and also a very good traction surface when wet unlike regular stains and sealers that can be very slippery for wet feet. Thompson's was the only treatment cleared for sealing the old treated lumber for food areas like picnic tables.
Cant get this song out of my head "Sitting on the dock of the bay, watching Al roll in " lol stay safe and well everyone best wishers from the North Norfolk coast UK
Good morning to all of you! Al, is there anything you Can't do? That looks amazing!
Howdy Theresa!
Goooood moooorrrnnning Al, Gina and Olivia fellow Viewers and all my friends. Hoodie from Jamaica 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲. Let's go floating 🤔🤔😃😃
Good morning Lloyd! Have a wonderful day my friend!
@@daviddavis703 Thanks David. Please do same
Morning Lloyd hope you have a good one!
Good Morning Everybody from Enniskillen, Ireland.
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Sam Valentine morning Sam
@@samvalentine3206 Good Morning Sam.
Looking good!!!
If you added another section to the end of the dock to make it like a T it would be more stable and your whole family could be on it at the same time and fish comfortably. It’s just an idea.
He said he's adding an 8 x 8 deck on the end of it.
Maybe the floating dock needs another barrel....
I thought he was using 2 barrels, one on each side , not sure why he only used 1 in front
How are the outdoor faucets working?
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I Love It!!! What a Gorgeous Pond!!! What a Blessing!! God Bless and have a Wonderful Day!! 😀❤⚘
Good Morning Lumnah family. It’s sunny (well it’s still dark out) Naples here. I didn’t get a notice this morning and your video just showed up at 6:20. Important thing is you’re on the tube now. Blessings to the whole Lumnah family. ❤️❤️❤️
Your the second person who said that. I wonder why. It’s been out since 6
@@LumnahAcres after it finally loaded it said that it had be posted 20 minutes earlier. Well, that’s TH-cam for you. Haha Loved your cement mixing technique today. If it works, just do it. 😁🇺🇸
@@Naplesfrank154 - Yes - mixing the concrete down in the Sonotube with the ground water was a very good idea!
Al, when I lived in NJ, I used to repair the docks at my marina. We found that barrels weren’t stable enough. We used styrofoam that measured about 10”x10” and I think they were about 8-10 feet long. Since they were flat, the docks were pretty sturdy. I’m guessing that you will start the house maybe next year? If you lived down here, you’d have beautiful weather all year long. I sometimes miss the 4 seasons.
@@Naplesfrank154 We did that also in Missouri but then found that the Styrofoam allowed bad algae to grow on it. Bad for the environment. Maybe if cut to size then coated with something. Do some homework.
good morning
We had a small farm pond when I was a kid, looked cool and refreshing but had snapping turtles so swimming was at risk of losing your toes!
Snapping turtles are delicious
At our camp we were at a friends for a 4th of July party and there daughter had one grab her big toe. She thought it was a rock. Had a hard time getting it to let go.
@@BigWillyBlingBling Yummy in the tummy!
Having had a pond or two, I can tell you that you are really gonna like the overall effect when you bring that pond up 8 or 10 inches... It will really look different... Good start on the dock...
Good morning Lumnah family and friends from NE Mississippi! Hope everyone is well!
What happened to the furniture you were building?
Al, stop scaring Gina. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😆😆😆
I don’t think that is possible. 😊
I'm concerned raising the water level will soften the edge and surface of the shoreline. Could you dig out/make a step down from the pylons and/or add an extension (as someone else suggested) to the shore edge with another barrel?
Agree with you . even placing rocks below the deck will prevent it dancing like boat . dumb idea to increase height of water . It will still rock like boat
@@davelawson2564 there are no dumb ideas... it's a thought process. I enjoy seeing the solutions others are able to provide. It helps the others with similar experiences. It's what a Mastermind or Community is... individuals coming together presenting ideas toward a common goal. Jump aboard.
@@selfretired3025 well said 👍
maybe add a pool ladder to the deck, find it salvage,if possible. Maybe, dredge the pond 7-8 et deep around the dock with the backhoe, when the ground and water is frozen in January-February..Use the platform to sit on, spread the weight on the ice with your machine. Recover the standing dead lumber with your skidoo-mule in the once-flooded areas in the cold months when the water is frozen.
@@andreewert1142 not sure why its better idea
Good morning from MICHIGAN. I could not find you till 6:07 a.m. THANK GOD. I did.
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G'Morning, Evalina!
@@samvalentine3206 Me too Sam
I love WATCHING this family. GOD BLESS YOU. CHOW
Morning Lumnah family.
I would have used the four barrels and made the 8' platform, then just had the bridge/jetty linked to both the platform and the bank.
I have to ask Saw a lot of cutting short stubs off. Why not just cut them in half? Quicker and less scrap to clean up.
Lumber isn't always perfectly to size,an 8' board might be 8'1" so he had to trim the excess off.He was also putting the cuts closer together and maximizing time that way.
Don't raise the level of the pond... What you just built was the ramp to the floating deck... The part you will be using for fishing and swimming will be level with the pond... Just something to think about... Good job...
Barrels should probably be filled with Expanding Foam