Yeah pretty much. It's the best ending for a story for those who hate punpun and those, like me, who feel sympathetic horror at his tragic and relating life. It truly is the best possible artistic/emotional ending Asano could've possibly written, and he did. May my heart never heal from this beautifully horrible story, and may yours as well.
@@Remedy462I understand your point of view and I find it relevant but you did not understand the end of the manga. The author does not try to give a moral, a bad or a good ending. He just tries to make us understand that the path against depression is long but doable. We are talking about Punpun who had suicidal thoughts throughout the manga. At the end of the manga Punpun is at peace with himself and tries to do his best. He does not have a great life but he moves forward and no longer tries to commit suicide. It is a realistic ending. The author does not make him rich or with 3 children and a beautiful wife. He just makes him at peace with himself with the will to move forward
It’s too heroic but there’s part of me that wanted Punpun to get his redemption arc because you feel so bad for what becomes of the little boy in the beginning of the story.
The entire plot of the story up to that point is Punpun trying to save a very specific person though. Nearly everything he had done, including up to where he lived, had been to "save" Aiko. So I have to disagree that it would be out of character necessarily.
I think this ending is perfect. The world is grey, beautiful and ugly. Miserable and amazing. On one hand he may never fully heal from the hell he had to suffer through or be able to live a normal life. But on another he has an opprotunity to live on and see another day. Through that maybe he can experience some happiness throughout his life, even if theyre very small moments. Maybe then he can truly get better. His fate is simultaneously tragic yet optimistic. Its a great reflection of the world. If its true that living is harder than being dead, then its interesting how punpun is finally choosing the harder option in his life for once instead of making decisions on a whim.
tl;dr: I have never seen a more nihilistic ending than Punpun's. He fully blames Aiko for their codependency and abuse towards one another. He rids one shackle and immediately thereafter, binds himself to a mother with a child that isn't his. A continuation of a cycle in hell. It is Samsara incarnate. Whereas Raskolnikov accepted his crime, confessed, and "reverted" back to Orthodox Christianity at the ending of Crime and Punishment, Punpun blames and shackles himself. He is addicted to existential despair, brief reprieves, denial, and depression. He will live in the phantom of Aiko for the rest of his days.
I always felt like he developed narcissistic coping styles to come to terms with his loss and perceived failure. It was about aiko at the beginning but he slowly became obsessed with the idea of her instead of her as a person
I disagree, but the end is ambiguous on purpose I recently finished reading it but I've seen so many interpretations of so many things at this point so it's cool because what we think about the ending can say more about ourselves than about the story itself
@@keo1758I always thought of the ending being a “beginning” much like how the manga with the lady was for him. Yet we know it can go badly. We just hope it doesnt
I enjoy the ending we got because Punpun is now free of Aiko, as messed up as that seems, and as messed up as the rest of his childhood was. When he reverted back to his dove form while waving to his friend, it gave me hope for Punpun, and I know despite his wrongdoings he can still heal. I also loved that we never saw what Punpun or his family actually looked like. The last panels where the new girl arrived in class, and the little boy was in awe, his expression made me understand how Punpun looked in his moment seeing Aiko. The boy’s innocence and infatuation made me hurt for the little dove boy Punpun… what a journey.
"...Punpun is now free of Aiko..." sounds kinda messed up since it makes her just sound like an object though even that makes sense since to Punpun, she was seen more of object of a fantasy longer than she was seen as a real person.
this comment nailed it.. this is what makes these types of manga depressing, other than the protagonist doesn't matter in the end, just like in real life, even tho everything objectively reals but we only can see them through our subjective minds@@cloroxbleach9222
@@cloroxbleach9222 yeh exactly. its kinda eh since objectively speaking it was Punpun who ruined Aiko, not the other way around. Though i guess at the end of the day, they were both "licking each other's wound"
I just finished the manga now I have so many questions like where was Aiko take after he told the kids to look after her? what happened to him after the police came to the hospital?what did they do with him?what could have he told to the police? Damn so many questions
Imagine if Inio Asano went with his original ending which ends up making Punpun a time looper so he goes back to his childhood and makes everything all right again 💀
@HornZ. Even in a groundhog day scenario, Punpun's possibilities will most likely converge to a degenerate outcome, the environment they grew up in are just too stacked against them.
That final panel of Punpun waving back while crying with all his family and friends is sickening. What would be an otherwise happy moment in the average persons life is just a reminder to him that he has to continue living due to his cowardice. Rereading the first chapter after finishing the story will make you cry.
I really do think that if PunPun was happy at the end, we would see his face. The bird character to me was always PunPun hiding his true feelings and potential. It was PunPun never showing us his true face.
a lot of oyasumi punpun remind me of what i love about bojack and his character. in both instances the people watching the story play out were always wondering if theyd die in the end. but again in both instances that would seem to be the cheap way out. if bojack killed himself or overdosed then that would be a really convenient way to no longer have him live with his consequences, same with punpun. bojack and punpun were both not good people, but like mentioned living is more painful than death. and its only through living that they can atone for their sins and move on.
It can’t really be happy no matter how you see it, just bittersweet or straight up miserable, with the choices being PunPun moves on, lives a normal life whilst Aiko is forgotten about completely after everything she’s gone through or PunPun can’t move on and he has to go through life despite hating every second of it and never getting to die like he’s always wanted to do
Personally, I'll never understand how people see it as a happy ending. Punpun wanted to die and Aiko wanted to live, and Punpun made the opposite of that become a reality, and now he has to live like that
If you noticed, the perspective of the story shifted to his friend Harumi (the teacher). He sees PunPun happy with his family the landowner,his current girlfriend Sachi, and his highschool friend & etc. The thing is that we don't know what's going on in PunPun's perspective but from what I can gather he is in his form in the ending, which is happy mood. Somehow he's content or happy with the people he is with. Sole reason of that I think was Sachi. Also to add: The final promise Aiko told to Punpun was "May you never forget me" Sadly we see Punpun's dream slowly forgetting Aiko's face
@@HornZ.and? like? do you wanna him to be living hell on earth? is that it? nothing good ever comes from his existence? i do admit i was thinking like you, that he is living now in hell for the rest of his life and nothing gets better or something, but others do think something out of this ending…..an actually happy one that i have a hard time agreeing :3
@@RavenL1337 Obviously i don't want a character to suffer for the rest of their life, I'm just saying that because the author himself believes it to be the worst outcome for Punpun aswell. I actually talk about that a bit, in my latest video
For me, it was a fantastic ending. Punpun is now free of his guilt and aiko. He is now surrounded by people who care for him, who love him. And in the last panel, he looks happy.
I don't think he's free of his guilt - - In fact, I think he's still somewhat tortured. One of the last things he mentions when thinking back is that he's forgetting Aiko, and is worried about that - Particularly as we're reminded of the note/charm he had hung that she wrote a note on saying to remember her.
Usually I hate when the story ends not clearly, or a cliffhanger, but for punpun, I really like the ending! It makes a lot of sense! I like to think that punpun would get better and be part of society after the story. And now hes roaming among us with a deeply hidden past. BUUUT it would be prettttty cool if we just had a glimpse of what hes up to now. Also great video!! Love the song at the beginning. perfectly fits with the story.
"Living is more painful than dying" is perfect fitting for a story for Oyasumi Pun Pun. It's painful to keep living sometimes, but there are people who want you to keep living. That alone makes living worthwhile.
Oh man seeing Aiko’s death once again. Aiko’s death shocked me so much when it happened. Like i knew she’d do it, but even so it was still shocking when i expected, it felt to soon even though we’ve been with just for the two of them for i while. Worst is when Punpun drags her corpse around.
I think the ending we got is perfect for the manga Because i think the story is all about punpun taking the wrong options He also mentions this in the story that he always takes the wrong decision So in the end punpun's best option is to unalive himself But he did not which makes his life kind of miserable But it can also mean his life can also be turned on to be good So it's kind of the open ending that it can be good ending or a bad ending I personally think it's a bitter sweet ending as we can't forget the things that happend in his life to be that easily forgettable
I imagined Punpun getting angry when he found out that the book about him became a best-seller, and then he did some suicide attempts but got stopped multiple times by either the police or other people, and he had a thought on channeling his rage towards Sachi💀💀💀
I also like the message the ending conveyed to me. Tking it into context of real life I saw it as a “shit happens and you may do awful things, but ending your life (or just y dying in general) is not an answer. You need to keep living even if it’s painful and you can’t undo what you did”, which wraps up the series nicely for me. So much media just ends with the awful mai character dying or killing themselves, so Punpun felt like a more realistic approach to that, because for a lot of awful people life doesn’t just end after the events are over.
I believe that punpun’s ending js just the cycle repeating itself. As we’ve seen with yuichi (even though i guess his story was way less crazy). In my opinion i did not see the ending as a gray ending but more as a good one for him at least. I feel like as twisted as it may seem the death of aiko his grieving might’ve been the lifting of breaking of his “curse” of eternal torment. Nanjou representing the “better” path, the path of happiness (she is most of the time associated with sunshine, with great memories while aiko was quite the opposite). Now the cycle will start once again, not specifically punpun’s story but that weird cycle that seems to repeat and that i can’t really describe. I will read the manga a third time to understand better that aspect, because even after reading it once again, finishing it just now, i’m still confused af and moved by the story, these last chapters are heavy….
1:18 Dude, how? I read Punpun with this track (and the Palmtree Panic edit of this track). When I heard it in this video, so many emotions came over me in a short time. Interesting coincidence of course.
The ending broke me. It was painful to see what Punpun turned into during the last chapters, not to mention Aiko's death, but the ending was being chased by his past in the most painful way possible.
I thought the ending was beautiful. The whole story, for me, is about letting go of that child-like hopefulness, which might have brought joy to punpun at one point of his life, but made him depressed in his current life because every time he seeks his old dreams he keeps running into disappointment when they don't turn out as he had hoped. This is personified by Aiko, which to me represented those dreams as his childhood crush and their plans to run away together, only for them to be faced with obstacle after obstacle which made their plans downright impossible. Her dying and him ultimately forgetting about her and continuing his life with Sachi and some friends represents that childhood self of Punpun dying to embrace a new reality with people that care for him. It's about dreams and how some dreams, like it or not, die as we're hit with the world's realities but so long as we're surrounded by the people that care for us we'll be okay. If punpun had died in the factory when he tore his eye out, I'm sure that it would not have carried the same weight as if when he had continued living.
I prefer the ending we got because it makes you think more about the story than if it were just Punpun dying. We can wonder what he’s doing now, if he accepts help or if he stays the same. And that’s why I see it as a rather happy ending because I think it’s not the solution to just die when you have caused problems like Punpun did.
The ending of Punpun living with all the shit he did and having to live with it, that imagine of Aiko hanging burned in his head forever is far more crushing and realistic than sacrificing himself
Im gonna be honest first time i saw that panel i thought for a split second that she was part of the background and a person but rubble like everything else around her
I finished PunPun today and share ur opinion. The ending is good and hits hard like u said: living is harder then dying. Great manga and I hope there will never be an anime adaption because it wouldnt work ^^
I think yhe point of all of this, is to show what happens to someone when, even if they are given help, turn it away at every chance. Someone who gives into the worst parts of themselves. Someone who was abused, assaulted, and betrayed, becoming the abuser, assaulter, and betrayer. His treatment of Aiko for the last three volumes was truly heartbreaking to watch.
I loved the ending. I thought to end it any other way would be too easy. I think the ending shows us the beauty and horrifying ugliness of live at the same time. it shows that to live is suffer, but that in suffering we also find happiness and joy
PunPun deserves to be happy. Everyone does. He probably isn't by the end of the story. He might not be happy during the epilogue either. But at the least there's a future where he can be.
i think the point of the ending we got is punpun getting the chance to start over. sure, he's still going to be hunted by his traumas and be depressed, perhaps he's still going to have sadistic and masochistic tendencies, but the attachments he had with the past are all cut clean. not sure whether it was better for him or worse, but either way, he is no longer in the same environment at all with the rest of the story. no more broken family, no more perverted uncle and midori, no more aiko-no more of his previous friends. both a mix of good and bad, and nonetheless new things.
I just finished the manga last night and personally, I thought the ending was perfect. It kinda shows a realistic conclusion that the end of a story, or end of some event, doesn't always end up good and one may just keep on suffering without our knowledge, such as with punpun which left me slightly more anxious when finishing the series. I remember in the last chapter when there's a new girl introducing herself and a boy looking flustered at her sight. I thought it was almost like a repeat of punpun and aiko's life which shows how there will always be someone struggling as much as punpun and it just adds more to the eeriness and potential depression of his life we can conclude after the ending.
Seeing Nanjou at the end made me bust out laughing, I dont like that it ended up having to be Nanjo "enslaving" punpun for him to go on living, but I would've been far less accepting of a suicide ending in particular but if punpun died by other means it wouldnt have made me feel as offput. Im glad Punpun survived, I feel that theres tons of media with this dark feeling throughout that end on a completely hopeless or just doomed end that is FAIR, "reasonable" and completely plausible, but the ending with punpun is perfect not only for the story but for readers who can relate to punpun as well. Excluding "god" heads, good vibrations etc. personally im a its harder to keep living than dying kinda guy but i do undertsand that it takes strength to also end ones life as well..........
*spoiler warning for bojack horseman ending* . . . This ending for punpun reminds me a lot with bojack horseman ending. Bojack gets to live in the end of the series, he have to live with the consequence of his action, much like punpun. Both shows have open ending showing that life doesnt have a clean cut ending. Theres always another day. Diane's quote to bojack in the end is my fav, "sometime life's a bitch and then you keep living". Its can be both horrifying or hopeful depending on your perspective, i choose the latter. And btw nice video, i was suprised you didnt have more subscriber
Yeah but in bojack it felt like bojack had grown into a better person and punpun felt like he got off ease i would have loved a chapter where punpun just reflect and possibly regret his actions
There is a fine line between deep and ambiguous|meaningless and obscure. Meaninglessness and obscurity can sometimes (to a degree) lend itself to the writing, however to the uninitiated can make something nonsensical appear to have depth and meaning. Not to put more emphasis on that when comparing to the whole, overall I think Goodnight Punpun, or for the visual, Onodara Punpun is the deep and ambiguous that people say it is, with its arms hanging over the fence and peering to the other side at the meaningless and obscure.
hmm from me it's pretty easy to read, asano visual metaphor, like the naivety of bird looking doodle to portray innocentness, or when the horn pops up, not big just a small devilish little horn show, and the orihime mythology, when every 7th July pun pun meets Aiko and then later decided to become liar not to meet her again, to freed from his past, put an end to aiko memories forever. its complex, and layered, but it's not obscure, this manga shows asano talents and his struggle
It has its obscurities, Asano said something similar himself in an interview@@handykawara6440
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Too be fair, Pun Pun scar me for life, but, at least here in LATAM, we knew people that have been in worst situations, and we dont have an Sachi that can carry us all the way. So i like the end, it was apropiate, even if you are in an abyss, theres always someone that can help you. BUT YOU MUST ACCEPT THE HELP
Justice for Aiko honestly. She was really the motor, the motivator of the story and in the end we don't even know what happened to her body. Her salvation is having to live in the memories of the person with whom she had an unhealthy attachment to, and we know he will eventually forget about her. He has to live on and do his best to remember her and live with the consequences of "being awake". Throughout the story, Punpun breaks promises on promises so it makes sense that the promise he made to himself to die after would not be fulfilled either. At least now he can't hide anymore but I don't like how he got to have that chance and Aiko didn't. I wonder if things would have ended different if she met Sachi instead, for got to meet someone who would be the Semi to her Shimizu. On a sidetone, don' jump me, but I really sympathise with Mama Punpun, I hate the dad more. At the end of the day, their son would have probably ended up better if they had just divorced a lot earlier
@@ruonai.4195 I'm not sympathising with her for doing that but I sympathise with her for trying to keep her son's positive outlook on his father whereas she died with him resenting her even though she was also a victim of abuse
As much as I hate open ended ending in depressing stories, I think it was for the best. Despite not knowing what could've happened. I like to think he still walks to streets of Japan. Its been 10-11 years since the manga ended I like to think it has been 10-11 years since the last we seen Pun Pun theoretically speaking. (Does that make sense?) I like to think hes slowly learned to love himself again and tries to remember Aiko as much as possible and his old friends try to remind him of her as much as possible. Maybe thats too hopeful. Even though I hate Pun Pun, I hope he's learning to be a better person, and learns to be happy again.
Is it really such a terrible ending for Pun pun? While I don't think his life up until that point was great it feels like the ending is a new lease on life. Whether Pun pun is able to change and do something for himself is up to him, but the option is there. Rather than, he's just dead. Besides, the kill Pun pun did was self defense, their immaturity had them make a bad decision of running away, the law would've been on Pun pun's side if I remember the situation with the mother correctly.
I like your take on the ending, also I think you're right on that last part. It's said Punpun was put on parole at the end, so I don't think he got in any serious trouble
He actually didn’t even kill anyone. Aiko admits her mother was still alive when Punpun went to answer the door, and killed her mother herself. Like, Punpun holds onto a lot of guilt for stuff that… isn’t really his fault? Which makes sense given his upbringing, trauma does that to a person. I like that Aiko kind of relieves him of that a little bit, and it’s unclear whether Punpun is able to fully understand or internalize that, but it gives him a chance. Which I think is the purpose of the ambiguity of the ending - Punpun has a chance to turn things around for himself, it’s just up to the reader to interpret if he actually figured it out after everything.
Having just re-read Punpun, this ending seems so much more fitting for him. It’s cowardly. It’s vapid and unsatisfying. A lot like Punpun’s existence before reuniting with Aiko. He’s forced to live out the rest of his life with people who’ll constantly remind him of all of his life failures and the abuse he’s endured, in which he’s highly likely to go suffer more with no hope for Aiko to save him this time.
it might be the worst ending possible for him for years to come, but it can still turn his life around, be better and actually archive some sort of "happiness". so i dont really dig the idea of living is harder, since it give you a chance. so much can happen in just year or even month, that's how complexs and unpredictable human is.
While i was reading this story i think i realized that Aiko was the things could be worst to PunPun life. Punpun had a uncle that was there for him , Aikos uncle was so far away she wanted to run away to see him. Punpun mom was selfish but Aiko mom was deplorable. Punpun was able to make friends because he had freedom, Aiko wasn’t allowed to leave her mom and ended up being more isolated. Punpun dated healthy people that helped him become a bit better, i believe Aiko didn’t want to date any (good people) because she thought she wasnt good enough. Punpun thought he killed Aiko mom but Aiko was ended up killing her mom. Aikos lived as a passenger her whole life with no hope of escaping. Punpun had a sliver of hope in the end but Aiko’s hope was extinguished because no one was there for her.
@@HornZ. fair, i liked the contrast of his character vs punpun though. Brimming with purpose vs being void of any purpose. People who hold onto these absurd delusions oddly have more community then those who refuse to indulge in delusions. The cult even died while exhibiting some agency/independent thought, rather then punpun who needed someone else to draw the line of when his life is no longer worthwhile. Both realities are awful
ABSOLUTELY prefer the ending we got. The idea of Punpun dying is way too clean cut as Inio Asano said. Nothing is clean cut in Punpun - you gotta carry that weight is the theme.
Both are awful lol. I haven't read Punpun in a while tho, so I don't really remember much of the 2 characters now. Also I said Punpun killed her because he took the first hit, and cuz it sounded better in the vid. But thanks for the correction 🙏
Personally I have mixed feelings about this manga. I wanted to see more characters face consequences for their actions tbh, also the whole Pegasus arc turned out to be somehow irrelevant in the end.
What the middle character that you hate ? I cant remember since I read this long ago and i never get the idea of that cult leader guy fell kinda annoy me for entire the series
I understand your point of view and I find it relevant but you did not understand the end of the manga. The author does not try to give a moral, a bad or a good ending. He just tries to make us understand that the path against depression is long but doable. We are talking about Punpun who had suicidal thoughts throughout the manga. At the end of the manga Punpun is at peace with himself and tries to do his best. He does not have a great life but he moves forward and no longer tries to commit suicide. It is a realistic ending. The author does not make him rich or with 3 children and a beautiful wife. He just makes him at peace with himself with the will to move forward
Fair enough and I agree that it's realistic ending (i talk about that in one of my latest videos aswell because I love this series) but the author himself literally describes it as the worst possible outcome lol. Those weren't my words, they were Asano's from an interview with Mangabrog. But Asano also said that many viewers see it as a happy ending, which he thinks is fine because "it would be boring if everyone had the same opinion". But anyway, the main point of this video was to just compare the ending we got, to the version Asano scrapped! :)
Brother you're contradicting yourself over and over again when you said "I don't mind the ending but" again then proceed to have a problem with it. Brother make up your mind.
Make my mind? I think its pretty clear, if you just...pay attention to the video? I don't mind the idea of the ending we almost got, but simply prefer the final ending, for the same reasons the author stated. I have no "problems" with either ending, i just prefer the one we got
My reply wasn't meant to sound condescending or anything btw. I was just saying that I don't see it as a big deal, when I know "technically" Aiko finished off her mom, I just said the wrong thing in the video. That's all, I've read the story but just said the wrong thing
I just and i mean just finished the manga and i have never felt as much hatred for a character as i felt for punpun and i think he didn't deserve the friends he had in the ending because he never seems to learn anything and it feels weird that it seems that the other characters have just forgave him so he probably lied to them which makes everything even worse i just think he should have spent time in jail possible for the rest of his life also fire video
He didn't get friends at the end tho really, he waved and left them. nobody really forgave him either, it was just never mentioned again, and he did get arrested and was later on parole. Thanks tho 🔥
@@hollowskull6149 no I was wrong, Punpun ended up meeting with a bunch of old characters and only waved goodbye at Shuntaro. My guess is that people know about the incident w Aiko, but forgive him since it could be considered Self Defense. But then again, we don't know the full details since its meant to be open 🤝
I have a completely different opinion as i started to get frustrated probably around the time the uncle(i cant remember names) ran away for a bit and punpun got well. it rhymes with tape, happened. It happened and i waited with excitement and suspense for something to come of it. But in the end nothing happened besides his uncle straight up victim blaming hi, but like. He doesnt really care that much or reacts to the information. It felt like while he was there and in the moment. That he never really pays attention beyond a surface level of what the people around him are doing or are talking about in that moment, and that feeling never really leaves me. We know aiko is being horribly abused by her caretaker later revealed to be her mother. But like does pun pun know? None of the actions he takes indicated that. they suggest the opposite. He takes her to cut things off with her physically abusive mother and not only disengages but turns his back to her????? He even has the line that all mothers have some love for their children????? I dont think he would be saying with knowledge of her being abused unless he was a sociopath or extremely stupid or naïve. Its the feeling of his obliviousness that not only frustrates me but also is very confusing because he is supposedly a great listener.
To this day i still find aiko disgusting. Same with the fanbase. Yall blame literally every single thing wrong aikos life and punpuns life, all on punpun. Its disgusting. Imagine saying “yeah the woman who manipulated, gaslit, controlled and ruined a man is actually the victim because her mom was mean to her” Absolutely disgusting to put any of that manipulation on punpun. A mentally deranged and abused woman manipulated punpun and used her hard past to gaslight the world and the audience into crying for her while calling punpun a devil. Disgusting.
i realize the ending doesn't feel right at all i guess the author is having hard time thinking of the best ending for punpun but for me i dont want it to end at all i wanna see punpun till he become old grandpa having schizo or dementia
I'm back after 2 months lmao
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So asano just doesnt let punpun get any of his wishes fulfilled, or it's fulfilled but in the worst possible case
I'm actually Inio Asano, and I can confirm this yea
Yeah pretty much. It's the best ending for a story for those who hate punpun and those, like me, who feel sympathetic horror at his tragic and relating life. It truly is the best possible artistic/emotional ending Asano could've possibly written, and he did. May my heart never heal from this beautifully horrible story, and may yours as well.
@@Remedy462I understand your point of view and I find it relevant but you did not understand the end of the manga. The author does not try to give a moral, a bad or a good ending. He just tries to make us understand that the path against depression is long but doable. We are talking about Punpun who had suicidal thoughts throughout the manga. At the end of the manga Punpun is at peace with himself and tries to do his best. He does not have a great life but he moves forward and no longer tries to commit suicide. It is a realistic ending. The author does not make him rich or with 3 children and a beautiful wife. He just makes him at peace with himself with the will to move forward
Honestly tho, dying while trying to save someone sounds too heroic for Punpun, so I prefer the ending we got.
Agreed 🤝
It’s too heroic but there’s part of me that wanted Punpun to get his redemption arc because you feel so bad for what becomes of the little boy in the beginning of the story.
The entire plot of the story up to that point is Punpun trying to save a very specific person though. Nearly everything he had done, including up to where he lived, had been to "save" Aiko. So I have to disagree that it would be out of character necessarily.
well, it may also be a selfish form of heroism, using the baby as an excuse to kill himself
Nah, I won't stand for this slander. HE IS NOT MY GOAT, but he does kinda like on some aspects "juh like me furReel."
Punpun wakes up to see aiko hanging from the sealing..... I broke at this scene
I think this ending is perfect. The world is grey, beautiful and ugly. Miserable and amazing. On one hand he may never fully heal from the hell he had to suffer through or be able to live a normal life. But on another he has an opprotunity to live on and see another day. Through that maybe he can experience some happiness throughout his life, even if theyre very small moments. Maybe then he can truly get better. His fate is simultaneously tragic yet optimistic. Its a great reflection of the world. If its true that living is harder than being dead, then its interesting how punpun is finally choosing the harder option in his life for once instead of making decisions on a whim.
Peak comment ong. This is a perfect way to view the ending imo
tl;dr: I have never seen a more nihilistic ending than Punpun's. He fully blames Aiko for their codependency and abuse towards one another. He rids one shackle and immediately thereafter, binds himself to a mother with a child that isn't his. A continuation of a cycle in hell. It is Samsara incarnate. Whereas Raskolnikov accepted his crime, confessed, and "reverted" back to Orthodox Christianity at the ending of Crime and Punishment, Punpun blames and shackles himself. He is addicted to existential despair, brief reprieves, denial, and depression. He will live in the phantom of Aiko for the rest of his days.
I always felt like he developed narcissistic coping styles to come to terms with his loss and perceived failure. It was about aiko at the beginning but he slowly became obsessed with the idea of her instead of her as a person
I disagree, but the end is ambiguous on purpose
I recently finished reading it but I've seen so many interpretations of so many things at this point
so it's cool because what we think about the ending can say more about ourselves than about the story itself
@@keo1758I always thought of the ending being a “beginning” much like how the manga with the lady was for him. Yet we know it can go badly. We just hope it doesnt
I enjoy the ending we got because Punpun is now free of Aiko, as messed up as that seems, and as messed up as the rest of his childhood was. When he reverted back to his dove form while waving to his friend, it gave me hope for Punpun, and I know despite his wrongdoings he can still heal. I also loved that we never saw what Punpun or his family actually looked like. The last panels where the new girl arrived in class, and the little boy was in awe, his expression made me understand how Punpun looked in his moment seeing Aiko. The boy’s innocence and infatuation made me hurt for the little dove boy Punpun… what a journey.
Love your interpretation on the ending. One of my favorite comments on this vid 🙏🙏
"...Punpun is now free of Aiko..." sounds kinda messed up since it makes her just sound like an object though even that makes sense since to Punpun, she was seen more of object of a fantasy longer than she was seen as a real person.
this comment nailed it.. this is what makes these types of manga depressing, other than the protagonist doesn't matter in the end, just like in real life, even tho everything objectively reals but we only can see them through our subjective minds@@cloroxbleach9222
@@cloroxbleach9222 yeh exactly. its kinda eh since objectively speaking it was Punpun who ruined Aiko, not the other way around. Though i guess at the end of the day, they were both "licking each other's wound"
I just finished the manga now I have so many questions like where was Aiko take after he told the kids to look after her? what happened to him after the police came to the hospital?what did they do with him?what could have he told to the police? Damn so many questions
Imagine if Inio Asano went with his original ending which ends up making Punpun a time looper so he goes back to his childhood and makes everything all right again 💀
Punpun would probably mess it up tho lets be honest 💀💀
Sadly he dumber than takemicchi
@HornZ. Even in a groundhog day scenario, Punpun's possibilities will most likely converge to a degenerate outcome, the environment they grew up in are just too stacked against them.
That final panel of Punpun waving back while crying with all his family and friends is sickening. What would be an otherwise happy moment in the average persons life is just a reminder to him that he has to continue living due to his cowardice. Rereading the first chapter after finishing the story will make you cry.
Why ? Ag the end of the manga punpun is happy
I really do think that if PunPun was happy at the end, we would see his face.
The bird character to me was always PunPun hiding his true feelings and potential.
It was PunPun never showing us his true face.
a lot of oyasumi punpun remind me of what i love about bojack and his character. in both instances the people watching the story play out were always wondering if theyd die in the end. but again in both instances that would seem to be the cheap way out. if bojack killed himself or overdosed then that would be a really convenient way to no longer have him live with his consequences, same with punpun. bojack and punpun were both not good people, but like mentioned living is more painful than death. and its only through living that they can atone for their sins and move on.
Tbh I kind of imagined punpun living a better life after the ending of the manga so it was kind of a happy ending
It can’t really be happy no matter how you see it, just bittersweet or straight up miserable, with the choices being PunPun moves on, lives a normal life whilst Aiko is forgotten about completely after everything she’s gone through or PunPun can’t move on and he has to go through life despite hating every second of it and never getting to die like he’s always wanted to do
Personally, I'll never understand how people see it as a happy ending. Punpun wanted to die and Aiko wanted to live, and Punpun made the opposite of that become a reality, and now he has to live like that
If you noticed, the perspective of the story shifted to his friend Harumi (the teacher). He sees PunPun happy with his family the landowner,his current girlfriend Sachi, and his highschool friend & etc.
The thing is that we don't know what's going on in PunPun's perspective but from what I can gather he is in his form in the ending, which is happy mood.
Somehow he's content or happy with the people he is with. Sole reason of that I think was Sachi.
Also to add: The final promise Aiko told to Punpun was "May you never forget me" Sadly we see Punpun's dream slowly forgetting Aiko's face
@@HornZ.and? like? do you wanna him to be living hell on earth? is that it? nothing good ever comes from his existence? i do admit i was thinking like you, that he is living now in hell for the rest of his life and nothing gets better or something, but others do think something out of this ending…..an actually happy one that i have a hard time agreeing :3
@@RavenL1337 Obviously i don't want a character to suffer for the rest of their life, I'm just saying that because the author himself believes it to be the worst outcome for Punpun aswell. I actually talk about that a bit, in my latest video
Good vibrations.
For me, it was a fantastic ending. Punpun is now free of his guilt and aiko. He is now surrounded by people who care for him, who love him. And in the last panel, he looks happy.
i feel like him being free of his guilt makes him just seem even more messed up as a person because he is the one who drove aiko completely to su/cide
I don't think he's free of his guilt - - In fact, I think he's still somewhat tortured. One of the last things he mentions when thinking back is that he's forgetting Aiko, and is worried about that - Particularly as we're reminded of the note/charm he had hung that she wrote a note on saying to remember her.
@@rillakumaribbonsshe was destined to die by her own self. Hes fine
@@Linkophere yes, but he was the one who pushed her over the edge. he is not fine.
Idk how he would be free if his guilt cause like in a way he was the one responsible for her death
Would have been pretty interesting if Punpun died, but still prefer the ending we got. Great video man 👍
Facts, thank you bro 🛐
Usually I hate when the story ends not clearly, or a cliffhanger, but for punpun, I really like the ending! It makes a lot of sense!
I like to think that punpun would get better and be part of society after the story. And now hes roaming among us with a deeply hidden past.
BUUUT it would be prettttty cool if we just had a glimpse of what hes up to now.
Also great video!! Love the song at the beginning. perfectly fits with the story.
Fr lets hope Punpun is doing a bit better lol.
Glad you enjoyed the video 🤌🔥
"Living is more painful than dying" is perfect fitting for a story for Oyasumi Pun Pun. It's painful to keep living sometimes, but there are people who want you to keep living. That alone makes living worthwhile.
Oh man seeing Aiko’s death once again. Aiko’s death shocked me so much when it happened. Like i knew she’d do it, but even so it was still shocking when i expected, it felt to soon even though we’ve been with just for the two of them for i while. Worst is when Punpun drags her corpse around.
You’ve got a sick editing style
Thanks!
I think the ending we got is perfect for the manga
Because i think the story is all about punpun taking the wrong options
He also mentions this in the story that he always takes the wrong decision
So in the end punpun's best option is to unalive himself
But he did not which makes his life kind of miserable
But it can also mean his life can also be turned on to be good
So it's kind of the open ending that it can be good ending or a bad ending
I personally think it's a bitter sweet ending as we can't forget the things that happend in his life to be that easily forgettable
I imagined Punpun getting angry when he found out that the book about him became a best-seller, and then he did some suicide attempts but got stopped multiple times by either the police or other people, and he had a thought on channeling his rage towards Sachi💀💀💀
So Punpun becomes Dazai.
I also like the message the ending conveyed to me.
Tking it into context of real life I saw it as a “shit happens and you may do awful things, but ending your life (or just y dying in general) is not an answer. You need to keep living even if it’s painful and you can’t undo what you did”, which wraps up the series nicely for me.
So much media just ends with the awful mai character dying or killing themselves, so Punpun felt like a more realistic approach to that, because for a lot of awful people life doesn’t just end after the events are over.
I believe that punpun’s ending js just the cycle repeating itself. As we’ve seen with yuichi (even though i guess his story was way less crazy). In my opinion i did not see the ending as a gray ending but more as a good one for him at least. I feel like as twisted as it may seem the death of aiko his grieving might’ve been the lifting of breaking of his “curse” of eternal torment. Nanjou representing the “better” path, the path of happiness (she is most of the time associated with sunshine, with great memories while aiko was quite the opposite). Now the cycle will start once again, not specifically punpun’s story but that weird cycle that seems to repeat and that i can’t really describe. I will read the manga a third time to understand better that aspect, because even after reading it once again, finishing it just now, i’m still confused af and moved by the story, these last chapters are heavy….
1:18 Dude, how? I read Punpun with this track (and the Palmtree Panic edit of this track). When I heard it in this video, so many emotions came over me in a short time. Interesting coincidence of course.
And also while I was reading, I was listening to Masayoshi Takanaka - All Of Me and Give Me Wings(you know why).
Very interesting coincidence 😂 also tbh I can't recognize the name Masayoshi Tanaka, but I'm glad you liked my little opening 🔥🙏
@@HornZ. edit is fire🔥
Truly one of the most wholesome and brutal ending I’ve ever read in manga!
Unfortunately even if he were to fully recover, punpun will never be a normal person
Unless Punpun goes to therapy for a LONG time, i agree lol
I THOUGHT THIS WAS FROM A 100K SUBS TH-cam. DAMN, YOU GOOD BRO
KEEP GOING
Thank you bro 🛐🛐🛐
The ending broke me. It was painful to see what Punpun turned into during the last chapters, not to mention Aiko's death, but the ending was being chased by his past in the most painful way possible.
I thought the ending was beautiful. The whole story, for me, is about letting go of that child-like hopefulness, which might have brought joy to punpun at one point of his life, but made him depressed in his current life because every time he seeks his old dreams he keeps running into disappointment when they don't turn out as he had hoped. This is personified by Aiko, which to me represented those dreams as his childhood crush and their plans to run away together, only for them to be faced with obstacle after obstacle which made their plans downright impossible. Her dying and him ultimately forgetting about her and continuing his life with Sachi and some friends represents that childhood self of Punpun dying to embrace a new reality with people that care for him. It's about dreams and how some dreams, like it or not, die as we're hit with the world's realities but so long as we're surrounded by the people that care for us we'll be okay.
If punpun had died in the factory when he tore his eye out, I'm sure that it would not have carried the same weight as if when he had continued living.
your outro is so warm and good
Its different now but thanks 🕺
@@HornZ. new outro is real good too
I prefer the ending we got because it makes you think more about the story than if it were just Punpun dying. We can wonder what he’s doing now, if he accepts help or if he stays the same. And that’s why I see it as a rather happy ending because I think it’s not the solution to just die when you have caused problems like Punpun did.
The ending of Punpun living with all the shit he did and having to live with it, that imagine of Aiko hanging burned in his head forever is far more crushing and realistic than sacrificing himself
@@greenghoul157 Agreed. I actually made a new video on Punpun's ending and why its so great!
Im gonna be honest first time i saw that panel i thought for a split second that she was part of the background and a person but rubble like everything else around her
Punpun being trapped in life is the worst possible ending for him
Which works with the rest of the theme of “everything is terrible forever”
I finished PunPun today and share ur opinion. The ending is good and hits hard like u said: living is harder then dying. Great manga and I hope there will never be an anime adaption because it wouldnt work ^^
I think yhe point of all of this, is to show what happens to someone when, even if they are given help, turn it away at every chance. Someone who gives into the worst parts of themselves. Someone who was abused, assaulted, and betrayed, becoming the abuser, assaulter, and betrayer. His treatment of Aiko for the last three volumes was truly heartbreaking to watch.
I loved the ending. I thought to end it any other way would be too easy. I think the ending shows us the beauty and horrifying ugliness of live at the same time. it shows that to live is suffer, but that in suffering we also find happiness and joy
When I say underrated content creator you are the definition itself - quality after quality video
Bro this is one of the nicest comments I've ever gotten tysm 💀🙏
PunPun deserves to be happy. Everyone does. He probably isn't by the end of the story. He might not be happy during the epilogue either. But at the least there's a future where he can be.
@@ilyarepin9490 Agreed. I also talked a bit about the open ending of Punpun in one of my latest videos! Definitely one of my favorite endings
i wondered what the different ending would be
i think the point of the ending we got is punpun getting the chance to start over. sure, he's still going to be hunted by his traumas and be depressed, perhaps he's still going to have sadistic and masochistic tendencies, but the attachments he had with the past are all cut clean. not sure whether it was better for him or worse, but either way, he is no longer in the same environment at all with the rest of the story. no more broken family, no more perverted uncle and midori, no more aiko-no more of his previous friends. both a mix of good and bad, and nonetheless new things.
I just finished the manga last night and personally, I thought the ending was perfect. It kinda shows a realistic conclusion that the end of a story, or end of some event, doesn't always end up good and one may just keep on suffering without our knowledge, such as with punpun which left me slightly more anxious when finishing the series.
I remember in the last chapter when there's a new girl introducing herself and a boy looking flustered at her sight. I thought it was almost like a repeat of punpun and aiko's life which shows how there will always be someone struggling as much as punpun and it just adds more to the eeriness and potential depression of his life we can conclude after the ending.
Both endings are very real, and it is still sad no matter which was chosen
Aiko deserves justice
Seeing Nanjou at the end made me bust out laughing, I dont like that it ended up having to be Nanjo "enslaving" punpun for him to go on living, but I would've been far less accepting of a suicide ending in particular but if punpun died by other means it wouldnt have made me feel as offput. Im glad Punpun survived, I feel that theres tons of media with this dark feeling throughout that end on a completely hopeless or just doomed end that is FAIR, "reasonable" and completely plausible, but the ending with punpun is perfect not only for the story but for readers who can relate to punpun as well. Excluding "god" heads, good vibrations etc. personally im a its harder to keep living than dying kinda guy but i do undertsand that it takes strength to also end ones life as well..........
*spoiler warning for bojack horseman ending*
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This ending for punpun reminds me a lot with bojack horseman ending. Bojack gets to live in the end of the series, he have to live with the consequence of his action, much like punpun. Both shows have open ending showing that life doesnt have a clean cut ending. Theres always another day. Diane's quote to bojack in the end is my fav, "sometime life's a bitch and then you keep living".
Its can be both horrifying or hopeful depending on your perspective, i choose the latter.
And btw nice video, i was suprised you didnt have more subscriber
Yeah but in bojack it felt like bojack had grown into a better person and punpun felt like he got off ease i would have loved a chapter where punpun just reflect and possibly regret his actions
There is a fine line between deep and ambiguous|meaningless and obscure. Meaninglessness and obscurity can sometimes (to a degree) lend itself to the writing, however to the uninitiated can make something nonsensical appear to have depth and meaning. Not to put more emphasis on that when comparing to the whole, overall I think Goodnight Punpun, or for the visual, Onodara Punpun is the deep and ambiguous that people say it is, with its arms hanging over the fence and peering to the other side at the meaningless and obscure.
hmm from me it's pretty easy to read, asano visual metaphor, like the naivety of bird looking doodle to portray innocentness, or when the horn pops up, not big just a small devilish little horn show, and the orihime mythology, when every 7th July pun pun meets Aiko and then later decided to become liar not to meet her again, to freed from his past, put an end to aiko memories forever. its complex, and layered, but it's not obscure, this manga shows asano talents and his struggle
It has its obscurities, Asano said something similar himself in an interview@@handykawara6440
Too be fair, Pun Pun scar me for life, but, at least here in LATAM, we knew people that have been in worst situations, and we dont have an Sachi that can carry us all the way. So i like the end, it was apropiate, even if you are in an abyss, theres always someone that can help you. BUT YOU MUST ACCEPT THE HELP
I think a anti climactic end is much more suitable for a story like this
I like the way they ended The Shield. There were two obvious endings to the show (for the main character) and they went for neither.
Justice for Aiko honestly. She was really the motor, the motivator of the story and in the end we don't even know what happened to her body. Her salvation is having to live in the memories of the person with whom she had an unhealthy attachment to, and we know he will eventually forget about her. He has to live on and do his best to remember her and live with the consequences of "being awake". Throughout the story, Punpun breaks promises on promises so it makes sense that the promise he made to himself to die after would not be fulfilled either. At least now he can't hide anymore but I don't like how he got to have that chance and Aiko didn't. I wonder if things would have ended different if she met Sachi instead, for got to meet someone who would be the Semi to her Shimizu. On a sidetone, don' jump me, but I really sympathise with Mama Punpun, I hate the dad more. At the end of the day, their son would have probably ended up better if they had just divorced a lot earlier
Not trying to jump you, but I would really like to know how you sympathise with a character who tried to kill her son, not once, but twice
@@ruonai.4195 I'm not sympathising with her for doing that but I sympathise with her for trying to keep her son's positive outlook on his father whereas she died with him resenting her even though she was also a victim of abuse
As much as I hate open ended ending in depressing stories, I think it was for the best. Despite not knowing what could've happened. I like to think he still walks to streets of Japan. Its been 10-11 years since the manga ended I like to think it has been 10-11 years since the last we seen Pun Pun theoretically speaking. (Does that make sense?)
I like to think hes slowly learned to love himself again and tries to remember Aiko as much as possible and his old friends try to remind him of her as much as possible.
Maybe thats too hopeful. Even though I hate Pun Pun, I hope he's learning to be a better person, and learns to be happy again.
Is it really such a terrible ending for Pun pun? While I don't think his life up until that point was great it feels like the ending is a new lease on life. Whether Pun pun is able to change and do something for himself is up to him, but the option is there. Rather than, he's just dead.
Besides, the kill Pun pun did was self defense, their immaturity had them make a bad decision of running away, the law would've been on Pun pun's side if I remember the situation with the mother correctly.
I like your take on the ending, also I think you're right on that last part. It's said Punpun was put on parole at the end, so I don't think he got in any serious trouble
He actually didn’t even kill anyone. Aiko admits her mother was still alive when Punpun went to answer the door, and killed her mother herself.
Like, Punpun holds onto a lot of guilt for stuff that… isn’t really his fault? Which makes sense given his upbringing, trauma does that to a person.
I like that Aiko kind of relieves him of that a little bit, and it’s unclear whether Punpun is able to fully understand or internalize that, but it gives him a chance. Which I think is the purpose of the ambiguity of the ending - Punpun has a chance to turn things around for himself, it’s just up to the reader to interpret if he actually figured it out after everything.
he could kill himself a day after the last chapter >_
yet another common hornz dubarooski
Having just re-read Punpun, this ending seems so much more fitting for him. It’s cowardly. It’s vapid and unsatisfying. A lot like Punpun’s existence before reuniting with Aiko. He’s forced to live out the rest of his life with people who’ll constantly remind him of all of his life failures and the abuse he’s endured, in which he’s highly likely to go suffer more with no hope for Aiko to save him this time.
there's simply no point of this story if punpun wont continue to struggle and suffer.
i kinda like the ending currently
it might be the worst ending possible for him for years to come, but it can still turn his life around, be better and actually archive some sort of "happiness". so i dont really dig the idea of living is harder, since it give you a chance. so much can happen in just year or even month, that's how complexs and unpredictable human is.
I just hate this bird so much
Hey don't diss my favorite bird like that 😔
How dare you dislike pegasus
While i was reading this story i think i realized that Aiko was the things could be worst to PunPun life. Punpun had a uncle that was there for him , Aikos uncle was so far away she wanted to run away to see him. Punpun mom was selfish but Aiko mom was deplorable. Punpun was able to make friends because he had freedom, Aiko wasn’t allowed to leave her mom and ended up being more isolated. Punpun dated healthy people that helped him become a bit better, i believe Aiko didn’t want to date any (good people) because she thought she wasnt good enough. Punpun thought he killed Aiko mom but Aiko was ended up killing her mom. Aikos lived as a passenger her whole life with no hope of escaping. Punpun had a sliver of hope in the end but Aiko’s hope was extinguished because no one was there for her.
I'm a fan of punpun and Inio Asano too auto subscribe bro cool vid!
Thank you so much bro 🛐
bEUtifull VIDEEOOO sir very GOOD and do you know tha song name at 1:20 THANK you and also I LOVE THA ENEDING
Hey I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Here's the song: th-cam.com/video/fYkShnaf454/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oYDPdorRQHgqwO-x
@@HornZ.thank YOUUUU
Yoooo, where’d you get the remix of palm tree panic past JP OST?
It's a song from Machine Girl. They sampled Sonic CD. Just look up "i think ill lose my mind in hysteria" and it should pop up
Fuck this is literally me....
bruh, how could you hate hobo jesus? (guess the hobo part is redundant) Dude was a wild ride to follow through in through
Its not that I hate him, he was just kinda annoying lol
@@HornZ. fair, i liked the contrast of his character vs punpun though. Brimming with purpose vs being void of any purpose. People who hold onto these absurd delusions oddly have more community then those who refuse to indulge in delusions.
The cult even died while exhibiting some agency/independent thought, rather then punpun who needed someone else to draw the line of when his life is no longer worthwhile.
Both realities are awful
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed 🛐
More content soon!
ABSOLUTELY prefer the ending we got. The idea of Punpun dying is way too clean cut as Inio Asano said. Nothing is clean cut in Punpun - you gotta carry that weight is the theme.
Midori is bad for what she did but I think Aiko mom is waaay worse.
Also it wasn't punpun who took the life of Aiko's mom but Aiko herself it was stated in manga that Aiko last stab is what killed her
Both are awful lol. I haven't read Punpun in a while tho, so I don't really remember much of the 2 characters now. Also I said Punpun killed her because he took the first hit, and cuz it sounded better in the vid. But thanks for the correction 🙏
Personally I have mixed feelings about this manga. I wanted to see more characters face consequences for their actions tbh, also the whole Pegasus arc turned out to be somehow irrelevant in the end.
this is amazing!
Preciate it 🛐🛐
More videos soon 💪
Bad vibration
Evil Pegasus be like
Hey try the horizon
@@khzharevan One of my absolute favorites ever. I plan to re-read it in the future
What the middle character that you hate ? I cant remember since I read this long ago and i never get the idea of that cult leader guy fell kinda annoy me for entire the series
The middle characters name is Midori i think. She's the uncles girlfriend who...."fooled around" with an underage Punpun
Will they animate ??
@@akshayakumars2417 Hopefully someday. I'd love a Punpun anime
I bet you won't reply to my comment bc this is 1+ year later
@@thisistheamericanguy2786 i usually reply to most comments lol
I understand your point of view and I find it relevant but you did not understand the end of the manga. The author does not try to give a moral, a bad or a good ending. He just tries to make us understand that the path against depression is long but doable. We are talking about Punpun who had suicidal thoughts throughout the manga. At the end of the manga Punpun is at peace with himself and tries to do his best. He does not have a great life but he moves forward and no longer tries to commit suicide. It is a realistic ending. The author does not make him rich or with 3 children and a beautiful wife. He just makes him at peace with himself with the will to move forward
Fair enough and I agree that it's realistic ending (i talk about that in one of my latest videos aswell because I love this series) but the author himself literally describes it as the worst possible outcome lol. Those weren't my words, they were Asano's from an interview with Mangabrog. But Asano also said that many viewers see it as a happy ending, which he thinks is fine because "it would be boring if everyone had the same opinion". But anyway, the main point of this video was to just compare the ending we got, to the version Asano scrapped! :)
Brother you're contradicting yourself over and over again when you said "I don't mind the ending but" again then proceed to have a problem with it.
Brother make up your mind.
Make my mind? I think its pretty clear, if you just...pay attention to the video? I don't mind the idea of the ending we almost got, but simply prefer the final ending, for the same reasons the author stated. I have no "problems" with either ending, i just prefer the one we got
Could you please elaborate on why you dislike midori so much?
You do know what she did right??..
@@HornZ. I know what she did, but that doesn't mean that i know why you dislike her.
Based on your answer i understand why you dislike her tho
@@Cornelio. yep. she literally took advantage of Punpun as a child, and she never got in trouble for anything like that, I can't stand her character
@@Cornelio. you have to be the most forgiving or non caring person after seeing that chapter
@@manlyhumanman8300 i just wanted to hear it from him bro, no need to be so dumb
I simply hate punpun tbh.
Everyone hating on my favorite bird 😔
Hmm is it just me or do none of these youtubers really read the story. He didnt take the life of Aikos mother.
@@Skyswordz1121 it's a single line in the video that I got wrong, it ain't that deep
@@HornZ. I'm pointing out something and its deep? Poor soul you. Lmao
My reply wasn't meant to sound condescending or anything btw. I was just saying that I don't see it as a big deal, when I know "technically" Aiko finished off her mom, I just said the wrong thing in the video. That's all, I've read the story but just said the wrong thing
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I just and i mean just finished the manga and i have never felt as much hatred for a character as i felt for punpun and i think he didn't deserve the friends he had in the ending because he never seems to learn anything and it feels weird that it seems that the other characters have just forgave him so he probably lied to them which makes everything even worse i just think he should have spent time in jail possible for the rest of his life also fire video
He didn't get friends at the end tho really, he waved and left them. nobody really forgave him either, it was just never mentioned again, and he did get arrested and was later on parole. Thanks tho 🔥
Wasn't he with all those people at the end
I might have got something worg
@@hollowskull6149 no I was wrong, Punpun ended up meeting with a bunch of old characters and only waved goodbye at Shuntaro. My guess is that people know about the incident w Aiko, but forgive him since it could be considered Self Defense. But then again, we don't know the full details since its meant to be open 🤝
Ok im just going to throw my thoughts of punpun here because it has been fucking with me the whole day
I don't even know if i like it man it was so soul crashing but i understand its brilliance
I have a completely different opinion as i started to get frustrated probably around the time the uncle(i cant remember names) ran away for a bit and punpun got well. it rhymes with tape, happened. It happened and i waited with excitement and suspense for something to come of it. But in the end nothing happened besides his uncle straight up victim blaming hi, but like. He doesnt really care that much or reacts to the information.
It felt like while he was there and in the moment. That he never really pays attention beyond a surface level of what the people around him are doing or are talking about in that moment, and that feeling never really leaves me.
We know aiko is being horribly abused by her caretaker later revealed to be her mother. But like does pun pun know? None of the actions he takes indicated that. they suggest the opposite. He takes her to cut things off with her physically abusive mother and not only disengages but turns his back to her????? He even has the line that all mothers have some love for their children????? I dont think he would be saying with knowledge of her being abused unless he was a sociopath or extremely stupid or naïve.
Its the feeling of his obliviousness that not only frustrates me but also is very confusing because he is supposedly a great listener.
To this day i still find aiko disgusting. Same with the fanbase. Yall blame literally every single thing wrong aikos life and punpuns life, all on punpun. Its disgusting.
Imagine saying “yeah the woman who manipulated, gaslit, controlled and ruined a man is actually the victim because her mom was mean to her”
Absolutely disgusting to put any of that manipulation on punpun. A mentally deranged and abused woman manipulated punpun and used her hard past to gaslight the world and the audience into crying for her while calling punpun a devil.
Disgusting.
I think bro isn't a big Aiko fan
aiko's haunting this man
The original ending was terrible, but the actual ending is bad too.
Very hot take
I hate punpun
i realize the ending doesn't feel right at all i guess the author is having hard time thinking of the best ending for punpun but for me i dont want it to end at all i wanna see punpun till he become old grandpa having schizo or dementia