I was disappointing by their choice to make movies, but having actually seen the film and being a high level volleyball player my whole life, this film was a WAY more realistic depiction of a volleyball match in terms of pacing and the actual events that happen. I know it's disappointing for manga readers having memorable moments missing, but the actual game was very realistic and paced well imo. I liked it a lot, but I would also enjoy a full season with extended coverage of the match.
This is very true but also very sad since haikyuu is a story about characters.This is why I hope Prod IG will realize just how fucking loved Haikyuu is and put money onto multiple seasons (just like Demon Slayer)
Haikyuu main focus was never the matches. If I wanted to watch a volleyball game, I'll tune in VBTV. Haikyuu is about the characters, learning and developing during matches. By cutting and making a "realistic pacing" (which isn't true cause they did a TON of flashbacks that cut the pace) they butchered almost every member of Nekoma and Karasuno apart from Kenma, Kuroo, Hinata and Tsuki. This match had many powerful themes that the director ignored: The match is not about certain people, is about two schools who will continue the tradition even when the current generation graduate, it's a legacy. The last point showed how comfortable, fun and into the game both teams were that they disconnect from a moment, feeling like thay were at other place (not just a Kenma at the brink of dying having an allucination). So no, it's not just about "awesone moments", it's about having characters fleshed out cause they are more than just players.
I am not a manga reader but enjoyed the movie; However I went to read the manga since I heard many scenes were cut of and I actually get their disappointment. They literally cut of so many scenes like the past of grandpa Ukai and the old coach of Nekoma (forgot his name) explaining why this Dumpster match is so important... As others said, Haikyu is about the characters, their development and much more rather than the match. I am really curious on how they will animate all the rest in 1 movie now
I finally watched the movie, and I gotta admit tho, it exceeded my expectations based on what everyone’s said abt it. The animation was spot on, and it was engaging, chaotic, and had new and creative angles beyond anything we’ve seen in previous seasons. Ik ppl are mad that it’s short and cut out a crazy amount and that’s totally valid, but at least they kept the quality and intrigue...can’t exactly say the same for Blue Lock S2 😆 Like the cutting of content was what made the movie bad, but looking at the movie alone w/o reference to the manga, it was KICKA$$ & just amazing in every way
the problem is it’s only going to get worse from here imo, after this match a very heavy character centric and so much is going to get cut unfortunately
Tbh the issue was that it was movie. It may sound obvious but I genuinely don't think they could've done better than they did with a run time of 80ish minutes. The movie is pretty much the best we could've hoped for the second we heard that the series would end with two movies instead of another season. Honestly I'm more concerned for the next movie which will have to cover probably the most important game in the series (Karasuno vs Kamomedai) as well as the Brazil arc and Jackals vs Adlers. Covering one game is already pushing it as we saw with this movie. But two games and a training arc?!!! I genuinely don't see any way they can truly conclude the series with only one more movie and I really hope they realize that and just decide to go for one more season. Haikyu is popular enough for another season to be profitable so I hope they consider it before it's too late, if it isn't already.
100% Agree with this take. I'm still hoping the next movie is Kamomedai and the end of "Haikyuu" and then there's like a post-timeskip Haikyuu Z for the rest of the material.
Fukunaga being a menace was cut out of the movie. He already had the least characterization among Nekoma regulars. Even the substitute libero had his moment in the OVA to portray more about his personality, skills, and blossoming chemistry with Lev. But we don't even see in animated form how much of a great player Fukunaga was? I was robbed
There were many important scenes straight up removed from the movie: 1. Kageyama, the prodigy setter- As you said, Kageyama's thought process. But it leads to one of the thrilling sets of all time - A long set to the middle - To Hinata when he sees him struggle so many times. But for the first time, Hinata fumbles and barely makes it past the blocks as a feint. This scene was epic. Instead, this was replaced by a great spike on the first go. I felt awful as I felt they removed the quirks of what makes Hinata - lovable. 2. Hinata's wish- When Kenma drops after losing to Hinata (feint to push) and he says, "This was fun", the exhilaration in the movie was just Hinata shouting and a few flashbacks. But this could have been done so much better. I really did not feel the goosebumps. 3. Hinata's DUNN jump - Hell, I could somehow hear this when reading the manga, but not in the movie. Imagine the disappointment. Such a drastic change in his jump, and it felt the same as his other ones. 4. Kageyama's line - While they show Hinata (as a crow) in a cage, they fail to include Kageyama. Kenma basically obliterates the lightning quick attack, removing Kageyama's famous and favorite attack. This makes him feel as he's caged too and he goes, "This is a real cramped way to play volleyball." And this, then leads to him making the decision to set a beautiful high arch to Hinata. This was very well thought through and deserved to be in the movie. Also, he learns about the curse of speed. "Kageyama who was easy prey for the curse of speed no longer exists." - I don't remember if this was in the movie, but it didn't leave an impact. Coz this line with everything that kageyama was about - "Move faster, jump higher, be quicker" before - brings chills down my spine. 5. The ace: Nekoma's libero had such a hard time against Asaahi's spikes and yet he manages to bump so many. But his hands tremble at each receive, so much that I can see the blood clots in a black and white manga. He even tells someone about how much it burns or such. I don't see why this needed to be removed. 6. Oni and oni In the anime, nekoma's coach mentioned that once Hinata grows, they will no longer be oni and his club - they will be oni and oni (monster and monster). This exact thing happened in the dumpster battle. Albeit there was a lot of support from Kageyama. But we see so many receives equivalent to that of our guardian angel, spikes that only he could do on a much higher scale, decoy plays and man.. his reflexes and mental strength to overcome Kenma. Also the statement -" that wasn't half bad" for Hinata's jump from Kageyama was all him. 7. The game- At the end, the way these two teams play so free that they themselves and the audience feel like they're watching a practice match in their school grounds. This was the most beautiful part of this entire arc. They replaced this with a few sec of something similar which made me more upset than I can reveal. 8. Missed Serves: Kageyama gets a no touch ace. This is insane against a team like Nekoma. Kuro's serves against Daichi was represented a one on one fight a few times and this was ignored for whatever reason. Tanaka's tries as well.. but you covered this. There are so many more, but I don't want to feel more disappointed than I already am. Thank you for making this video and hope you continue to love Haikyuu. ( That missing nishinoya's play was criminal and punishable by death. )
I think we've all known since the announcements of the movies that the remaining matches were going to be rushed, as a Nishinoya fanboy I was genuinely devastated that his heel save was cut and your analysis of the movie is bang on. It's proof that we really should have had it in a seasonal format, at the very least the rest of nationals and rounded out with a long movie for Brazil/Hinata's return. Having said that, the movie itself is fantastically made and I love it dearly. Just can't help but wonder what if...
They should have made epsodes😢😢..i remember when hinata finally jumped over the blockers ..they didn't show Nishinoya reaction he was proud , surprised whatever emotion u can think of they didn't show 😔
Yeah the Boom Jump was pretty cool but I think it could've been even more epic. There's actually a fan animation on TH-cam that I watched, I wonder if I could find that again...
@@oEllery yup ...i don't think so i would watch the remaining movies ..i don't wanna spoil my mood 😔 because of them ..if I wanna relive those moments again I will read manga once again ..watching movie isn't worth for me atleast ...
@@smz6813 I think the material all the way up through season 4 was adapted REALLY well. You could start from the Nekoma game if you want to save time. Hmmm... But also.... Starting from the start of season 4 will let you see more character development and build up for the characters on the Nekoma side. They got a LOT more material in the manga, and the anime cut some of it in Season 4.
This did not need to be a movie, it wa great sure, but with how much they had to cut to fit the run time, it took away from something that could've been even greater.😊
6:47 It's not because he's the shotest player, his back row attacks don't make it to the center line of the opponent's court. So without a blocker, Nekoma thought they easily pick up the ball up by falling backwards towards the end of the court, but Daichi wanted to go attacking by swinging at the net and got the point. It was my favorite point of the manga❤🔥
Thank you for making this. I was dreading the movies when they first got announced, and so before watching this one i intentionally kept myself from rereading the manga because I knew I was going to be disappointed if i remembered what happened. And that was probably a good decision in the end because I had a VERY good time seeing the movie in theaters. However, having now reread the manga I am now feeling this...if i may be a bit dramatic, principled rage for how they handled things. Haikyuu at the end of the day is standout to most because of how it handles its cast. How it gives life to every single person, down to single members of the CROWD. It's a story that thrives into not letting a single character go to waste, to the point where most starting line players on every shown team have CHARACTER SHEETS that are displayed at the end of manga chapters. I was already feeling unsure about the cuts displayed back during the two tokyo OVAs and during the tsubakihara match, but this movie really cuts deep. Haikyuu thrives on its character depth, and by cutting that you are SEVERELY crippling the story that so many people love. It feels like they've forgotten the message that episode 16 in season 1 worked very hard to imprint in our heads.
I'm so upset they cut Inuoka's development in this game expecially because Lev got so much highlight! like all the first years got their moments except for him :(
I've said it a bunch, but as much as I highly enjoyed this movie as a whole and had a huge smile on my face the whole time I was never not gonna be disappointed by the cut scenes because this is one of two matches I read again every now and then. My only hope is that the money this movie made can fund another 3 seasons to finish out the series (assuming they make the Dumpster Battle as one season like season 3) because I need to see the Black Jackals vs the Adlers animated fully and properly
I was so sad that the movie didn't emphasize the significance of karasuno winning their first set ever against Nekoma. I would've happily seen them cut that weird circle panning moment from Kenma's pov that flashed back to the training camp at the end, and had them give Karasuno their celebration moment after the second set.
NOOO 😦 I don't read Haikyuu's manga so I had no idea about this 😭 They did my boy Nishinoya so DIRTY... He's my favorite, how could they... I enjoyed the movie but the pacing just felt very rushed... 😞 For me their matches against Shiratorizawa and the second match against Aoba are my favorites, so much hype for this game and honestly I was disappointed.
I mean I agree to a certain extent. I was surprised they didn't include the heel save. But it's not like his double receive against Shiratorizawa wasn't just as epic. I think Season 5 would've been enough for Nekoma and Kamomedai matches but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie regardless.
With such an amazing story and a cast of characters, it's just really sad to see this beloved series come down this. Haikyuu is one of those stories where a movie format simply looks terrible. With so much screen time/setup needed for some of these characters, a pace of a movie compared to a fully fleshed out season is too detrimental. Even with such a celebrated series like Arcane, quite a handful of people are complaining about its pacing and how it's trying to cover too many plots/subplots and paying them off too quickly. Arcane just makes it work though and their BTS made it clear they wanted to stick to the format they have. Mugen Train from Demon Slayer also a good stand alone movie (not to mention the smaller episodes leading up to it). We're introduced to that one character basically just in the span of the movie; the character completes their full character arc and continues to leave an significant impact for the rest of the series. Haikyuu focuses on not only Karasuno and its players, but also the numerous teams, players, and coaches on the other side. The series is more than just volleyball and emphasizes the character's relationship with one another and the bond/dynamic they form with each other. tldr; Movie pacing for a story like Haikyuu, not ideal. No time to flesh out the rest of the cast that were setup from previous seasons. Less moments for us to 'take it easy' and appreciate the Haikyuu moments that leave a lasting impression on us. Still enjoyed the movie as I was watching it, just sad it wasn't given the opportunity for it to be even greater. Hope to be proven wrong on the next one. Also as an anime only, feels like I wasn't given too much confidence going into the Kamomedai match even after this Nekoma match. Hoshiumi got the commentators calling him an 'one man army.' Like please😭. Knowing what bits I know from the manga now though and how insane Karasuno's players are too, I have some faith they can pull it off.
Well said, and thanks for the comment 😸 I enjoyed the movie too, and I think the anime has always done a great job adapting it. I liked the movie, I just wanted more haha
I finished the movie when it came out to America and then I stumbled onto a TH-cam video fan animation of Nishinoya receiving the ball with the HEEL of his Foot! And I lost my mind that they didn’t animate that, and I just lost so much respect for what they are doing to this series, there is probably gonna be so much missing manga content in the next new movies, I remember finishing the movie and felt like something was missing (I’m a anime watch only btw) and I noticed there was not a lot of volleyball or it only felt focused on Kenma too much not saying it was bad it’s just literally everything was missing, such a really disappointing year or decade for sports anime fans we got Haikyuu that doesn’t even want to be faithfully adapted and we got a shitty Blue Lock as a power point project.
14:58 I get your point but A LOT of players are left out in ACE of diamond cause its eseier to focus on 7 players in a game than 9, in a single team not mentioning the other team, btu yeah there are more characterization on ACE of diamond cause there are lot more of them but its not as deep as in haikyuu
They're both really good at it, basically. And yeah it's harder with baseball having so many players on the field AND like 40 players at Seido all competing over bench spots 🤣
@@oEllery yeah basically that I understood his argument, but for me comparing the both of them its like comparing the power of the legs/ foot between rugby and football, one clearly as more power and the other more tecnice
I agree with you. I remember this match in the manga made me breathless, it was so so good but the movie, althought amazingly animated, felt a little bit underwhelming; it was a good volley match but rushed (they could at least made a longer movie..?) and I fear how much they'll cut for the final movie!!
I think Haiykuu! as a whole is such an unfortunate example of missed timing. Because the manga has been finished for so many years, the waning interest has felt a lot more noticeable in these movies. For such an iconic and inspirational manga, everything matters. This movie felt like it misunderstood the fact that character writing was always the strong point, and because of that we only saw straight volleyball highlights, which ruined the dramatic impact that so many of these moments cultivated over so many arcs.
The only bad thing about this movie was that it had to cut scenes. There's only one I wish they didn't cut, and it's Nishinoya's foot save, like thats too epic not to keep
@@oEllery Honestly, they should have pushed for 2 hour long movie. Even if then Nekoma and Karsuno match ended before, they could just make a few cuts to Bokuto's match where he was on fire
The fact it went down to making 2 movies with 2 full games and a timeskip after making so much money and I think still making loads is so sad even if the games themselves were made like season 3 like the whole thing just being that one game wouldve been better the manga is too good for it to be treated this way
I feel that they completely missed what makes Haikyuu matches great. It's a season full of building tension and excitement which you finally see coming to a conclusion on the last episode, which makes each match intense. By making it into a movie, they completely lost the tension. It felt too quick for my liking and since this isn't a real volleyball match, I didn't find myself excited for the finale. However, the finale was done in a very cool manner with the camera work!
For me This movie for genuinely top tier content Hell i nearly cried watching this But after i read the manga I like to think the animaters didn't want to do so much cool moments like in inarizaki match because they wanted to go to an emotional route But one of major themes they missed of the match was that Karasuno is no Longer the underdogs Karsuno is a powerhouse which has aoba joahai shoratorizawa and inarizaki powershouses It might not be even be true that they were equals since nearly everyone neraly knew even it was a tiny bit that nekoma cant beat karasuno I loved the movie and i am not lying about but i sincerely wished they would karasuno the powerhouse or the monsters of the court they were shown in the manga ❤ Sorry if my spellings were wrong
I had asked a question once about why they don't include everything from the manga to the anime and not deviate from the manga and it was because they encourage the people to read the manga. It does kinda suck though because ya wanna see it animated where they move when it comes to a sports manga especially.
I dont think what was cut out of the movie offends me that much, but since in comparisson they gave it SO MUCH TIME to the Inarizaki match, that I DIDNT CARE ONE BIT about, that makes me upset
i genuinely feel that this was the worst haikyu movie yet, despite the better animation and the way it felt like a real match i do think that the way scenes were directed here can be used for future parts if they are seasons[pacing wise, not animation because that would cost more and would need overworking staff even more] but story wise and character wise[including kenma , shoyo and kuroo] the movie did feel very poor and anime wise , i'd say that pretty much every major match before this[detoko, both seijoh matches, shiratorizawa, inarizaki] was better and some minor matches were better too[kakugawa, wakutani] , which is quite sad given that it's my favorite match in the manga and it doesn't make me confident for my 2nd favorite match in the manga[kamomedai]
as much as i love haikyuu it just makes me upset that there are are part of the mannga which are not in the anime especially in the movie like they cut off so many parts that its not funny they did not add one of fav nishinoya plays and its not funny i just hope they do not cut of more parts in the other movie cuz it wont be nice
So basically, the disappointments people have is that it's not like the manga, completely forgetting that it's a movie and they have to streamline it. There's almost never criticism about the ACTUAL movie
The movie was amazing. Yes, they cut stuff because they had to, but the movie still ended up incredible in the end. Manga readers are out here acting like it was total trash because it's missing a few moments.
First off haikyuu is really not a series where you can make any match a movie... especially not the nekoma match. Secondly, nobody is saying the movie is trash ...the movie however does infact cuts out alot of the part which makes haikyuu arguably the best sports manga...sure you can argue that it's for the shortage of time, to which the counter argument would always be why not make this entire match a season
The producers needed more budget. No fan decided to run a GoFund initiative becoz everyone was selfish. So all you get is the movie, little bois. Carry yourself a river.
2:00 Sooooo...I actually animated the nishinoya heel save you can find it here th-cam.com/video/zWhVsQ-hVTU/w-d-xo.html And I'm animating it again to make it even better! I'm glad you made this video to help spread awareness especially to anime only watchers on just how much cool stuff was unfortunately cut
I was disappointing by their choice to make movies, but having actually seen the film and being a high level volleyball player my whole life, this film was a WAY more realistic depiction of a volleyball match in terms of pacing and the actual events that happen. I know it's disappointing for manga readers having memorable moments missing, but the actual game was very realistic and paced well imo. I liked it a lot, but I would also enjoy a full season with extended coverage of the match.
well said
That's a good/interesting take as well. Thanks for your insight 😇
This is very true but also very sad since haikyuu is a story about characters.This is why I hope Prod IG will realize just how fucking loved Haikyuu is and put money onto multiple seasons (just like Demon Slayer)
Haikyuu main focus was never the matches. If I wanted to watch a volleyball game, I'll tune in VBTV. Haikyuu is about the characters, learning and developing during matches. By cutting and making a "realistic pacing" (which isn't true cause they did a TON of flashbacks that cut the pace) they butchered almost every member of Nekoma and Karasuno apart from Kenma, Kuroo, Hinata and Tsuki. This match had many powerful themes that the director ignored: The match is not about certain people, is about two schools who will continue the tradition even when the current generation graduate, it's a legacy. The last point showed how comfortable, fun and into the game both teams were that they disconnect from a moment, feeling like thay were at other place (not just a Kenma at the brink of dying having an allucination). So no, it's not just about "awesone moments", it's about having characters fleshed out cause they are more than just players.
I am not a manga reader but enjoyed the movie; However I went to read the manga since I heard many scenes were cut of and I actually get their disappointment. They literally cut of so many scenes like the past of grandpa Ukai and the old coach of Nekoma (forgot his name) explaining why this Dumpster match is so important... As others said, Haikyu is about the characters, their development and much more rather than the match. I am really curious on how they will animate all the rest in 1 movie now
I finally watched the movie, and I gotta admit tho, it exceeded my expectations based on what everyone’s said abt it. The animation was spot on, and it was engaging, chaotic, and had new and creative angles beyond anything we’ve seen in previous seasons. Ik ppl are mad that it’s short and cut out a crazy amount and that’s totally valid, but at least they kept the quality and intrigue...can’t exactly say the same for Blue Lock S2 😆
Like the cutting of content was what made the movie bad, but looking at the movie alone w/o reference to the manga, it was KICKA$$ & just amazing in every way
It's still good on its own, true! I just wanted more 😇Thanks for commenting !
the problem is it’s only going to get worse from here imo, after this match a very heavy character centric and so much is going to get cut unfortunately
Tbh the issue was that it was movie. It may sound obvious but I genuinely don't think they could've done better than they did with a run time of 80ish minutes. The movie is pretty much the best we could've hoped for the second we heard that the series would end with two movies instead of another season. Honestly I'm more concerned for the next movie which will have to cover probably the most important game in the series (Karasuno vs Kamomedai) as well as the Brazil arc and Jackals vs Adlers. Covering one game is already pushing it as we saw with this movie. But two games and a training arc?!!! I genuinely don't see any way they can truly conclude the series with only one more movie and I really hope they realize that and just decide to go for one more season. Haikyu is popular enough for another season to be profitable so I hope they consider it before it's too late, if it isn't already.
100% Agree with this take. I'm still hoping the next movie is Kamomedai and the end of "Haikyuu" and then there's like a post-timeskip Haikyuu Z for the rest of the material.
Spoilers btw
Fukunaga being a menace was cut out of the movie. He already had the least characterization among Nekoma regulars. Even the substitute libero had his moment in the OVA to portray more about his personality, skills, and blossoming chemistry with Lev. But we don't even see in animated form how much of a great player Fukunaga was? I was robbed
I always felt like Fukunaga got the most cuts of any character from the OVA, Season 4, and now this movie, too. Agreed... 🥲
There were many important scenes straight up removed from the movie:
1. Kageyama, the prodigy setter-
As you said, Kageyama's thought process. But it leads to one of the thrilling sets of all time - A long set to the middle - To Hinata when he sees him struggle so many times. But for the first time, Hinata fumbles and barely makes it past the blocks as a feint. This scene was epic. Instead, this was replaced by a great spike on the first go. I felt awful as I felt they removed the quirks of what makes Hinata - lovable.
2. Hinata's wish-
When Kenma drops after losing to Hinata (feint to push) and he says, "This was fun", the exhilaration in the movie was just Hinata shouting and a few flashbacks. But this could have been done so much better. I really did not feel the goosebumps.
3. Hinata's DUNN jump -
Hell, I could somehow hear this when reading the manga, but not in the movie. Imagine the disappointment. Such a drastic change in his jump, and it felt the same as his other ones.
4. Kageyama's line -
While they show Hinata (as a crow) in a cage, they fail to include Kageyama. Kenma basically obliterates the lightning quick attack, removing Kageyama's famous and favorite attack. This makes him feel as he's caged too and he goes, "This is a real cramped way to play volleyball." And this, then leads to him making the decision to set a beautiful high arch to Hinata. This was very well thought through and deserved to be in the movie.
Also, he learns about the curse of speed. "Kageyama who was easy prey for the curse of speed no longer exists." - I don't remember if this was in the movie, but it didn't leave an impact. Coz this line with everything that kageyama was about - "Move faster, jump higher, be quicker" before - brings chills down my spine.
5. The ace:
Nekoma's libero had such a hard time against Asaahi's spikes and yet he manages to bump so many. But his hands tremble at each receive, so much that I can see the blood clots in a black and white manga. He even tells someone about how much it burns or such. I don't see why this needed to be removed.
6. Oni and oni
In the anime, nekoma's coach mentioned that once Hinata grows, they will no longer be oni and his club - they will be oni and oni (monster and monster). This exact thing happened in the dumpster battle. Albeit there was a lot of support from Kageyama. But we see so many receives equivalent to that of our guardian angel, spikes that only he could do on a much higher scale, decoy plays and man.. his reflexes and mental strength to overcome Kenma. Also the statement -" that wasn't half bad" for Hinata's jump from Kageyama was all him.
7. The game-
At the end, the way these two teams play so free that they themselves and the audience feel like they're watching a practice match in their school grounds. This was the most beautiful part of this entire arc. They replaced this with a few sec of something similar which made me more upset than I can reveal.
8. Missed Serves:
Kageyama gets a no touch ace. This is insane against a team like Nekoma.
Kuro's serves against Daichi was represented a one on one fight a few times and this was ignored for whatever reason.
Tanaka's tries as well.. but you covered this.
There are so many more, but I don't want to feel more disappointed than I already am.
Thank you for making this video and hope you continue to love Haikyuu. ( That missing nishinoya's play was criminal and punishable by death. )
Haha don't worry, I still love Haikyuu! Nice comment, plenty of great insights into what made the manga so great 😊
I think we've all known since the announcements of the movies that the remaining matches were going to be rushed, as a Nishinoya fanboy I was genuinely devastated that his heel save was cut and your analysis of the movie is bang on. It's proof that we really should have had it in a seasonal format, at the very least the rest of nationals and rounded out with a long movie for Brazil/Hinata's return.
Having said that, the movie itself is fantastically made and I love it dearly. Just can't help but wonder what if...
They should have made epsodes😢😢..i remember when hinata finally jumped over the blockers ..they didn't show Nishinoya reaction he was proud , surprised whatever emotion u can think of they didn't show 😔
Yeah the Boom Jump was pretty cool but I think it could've been even more epic. There's actually a fan animation on TH-cam that I watched, I wonder if I could find that again...
@@oEllery yup ...i don't think so i would watch the remaining movies ..i don't wanna spoil my mood 😔 because of them ..if I wanna relive those moments again I will read manga once again ..watching movie isn't worth for me atleast ...
@@praveerkamble8746 Once you start reading the manga again you can't stop. I know how that is 😹
@@oEllery do you think I should start the manga from s4 or start from the nekoma game
@@smz6813 I think the material all the way up through season 4 was adapted REALLY well. You could start from the Nekoma game if you want to save time.
Hmmm... But also.... Starting from the start of season 4 will let you see more character development and build up for the characters on the Nekoma side. They got a LOT more material in the manga, and the anime cut some of it in Season 4.
It is quite absurd that so many things are cut, sometimes for 0 reason.
Only there is a reason, run time. It's a movie, it can't last as long as a whole arc would if it was serialized
Plenty of reasons
"0 reason" and it's literally a movie? the reason is right there. a limited runtime will always result in cut corners sadly.
@@ilay_uxthey should’ve made a show instead of a movie
This did not need to be a movie, it wa great sure, but with how much they had to cut to fit the run time, it took away from something that could've been even greater.😊
I just wanted to see some of my favorite panels, even as still frames! Either way, thanks for the comment 😸
6:47 It's not because he's the shotest player, his back row attacks don't make it to the center line of the opponent's court. So without a blocker, Nekoma thought they easily pick up the ball up by falling backwards towards the end of the court, but Daichi wanted to go attacking by swinging at the net and got the point. It was my favorite point of the manga❤🔥
Nice explanation! There is so much depth to the games in the manga, where every point is given in SO MUCH detail! Thank you 😸
Thank you for making this. I was dreading the movies when they first got announced, and so before watching this one i intentionally kept myself from rereading the manga because I knew I was going to be disappointed if i remembered what happened. And that was probably a good decision in the end because I had a VERY good time seeing the movie in theaters. However, having now reread the manga I am now feeling this...if i may be a bit dramatic, principled rage for how they handled things. Haikyuu at the end of the day is standout to most because of how it handles its cast. How it gives life to every single person, down to single members of the CROWD. It's a story that thrives into not letting a single character go to waste, to the point where most starting line players on every shown team have CHARACTER SHEETS that are displayed at the end of manga chapters. I was already feeling unsure about the cuts displayed back during the two tokyo OVAs and during the tsubakihara match, but this movie really cuts deep. Haikyuu thrives on its character depth, and by cutting that you are SEVERELY crippling the story that so many people love. It feels like they've forgotten the message that episode 16 in season 1 worked very hard to imprint in our heads.
people only hyped up the movie due to having some new content to watch. we were robbed
For real
I'm so upset they cut Inuoka's development in this game expecially because Lev got so much highlight! like all the first years got their moments except for him :(
I've said it a bunch, but as much as I highly enjoyed this movie as a whole and had a huge smile on my face the whole time I was never not gonna be disappointed by the cut scenes because this is one of two matches I read again every now and then. My only hope is that the money this movie made can fund another 3 seasons to finish out the series (assuming they make the Dumpster Battle as one season like season 3) because I need to see the Black Jackals vs the Adlers animated fully and properly
That would be soooo good. I hope so too 🥲
I was so sad that the movie didn't emphasize the significance of karasuno winning their first set ever against Nekoma. I would've happily seen them cut that weird circle panning moment from Kenma's pov that flashed back to the training camp at the end, and had them give Karasuno their celebration moment after the second set.
I loved that part in the manga, too. 🥲
The characters reactions are always the BEST parts
@oEllery agreed!! I like feeling like I'm celebrating with them!
Thanks for the heads up... Now I am even more excited to read all the Manga!!!
PS I thoroughly enjoy the movie for what it is, an absolute blast 😆😍
I think the main takeaway is that if you love the movie, you'll probably love the manga even more! Thanks for the comment 😇
Absolutly amazing video, thank you. Now I MUST buy and read the match in a manga form
It's so worth it! Thanks for the kind comment 😸
NOOO 😦 I don't read Haikyuu's manga so I had no idea about this 😭 They did my boy Nishinoya so DIRTY... He's my favorite, how could they...
I enjoyed the movie but the pacing just felt very rushed... 😞
For me their matches against Shiratorizawa and the second match against Aoba are my favorites, so much hype for this game and honestly I was disappointed.
Those are some of my favorite games too. You have good taste 😼
I mean I agree to a certain extent. I was surprised they didn't include the heel save. But it's not like his double receive against Shiratorizawa wasn't just as epic. I think Season 5 would've been enough for Nekoma and Kamomedai matches but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie regardless.
With such an amazing story and a cast of characters, it's just really sad to see this beloved series come down this. Haikyuu is one of those stories where a movie format simply looks terrible. With so much screen time/setup needed for some of these characters, a pace of a movie compared to a fully fleshed out season is too detrimental.
Even with such a celebrated series like Arcane, quite a handful of people are complaining about its pacing and how it's trying to cover too many plots/subplots and paying them off too quickly. Arcane just makes it work though and their BTS made it clear they wanted to stick to the format they have. Mugen Train from Demon Slayer also a good stand alone movie (not to mention the smaller episodes leading up to it). We're introduced to that one character basically just in the span of the movie; the character completes their full character arc and continues to leave an significant impact for the rest of the series.
Haikyuu focuses on not only Karasuno and its players, but also the numerous teams, players, and coaches on the other side. The series is more than just volleyball and emphasizes the character's relationship with one another and the bond/dynamic they form with each other.
tldr; Movie pacing for a story like Haikyuu, not ideal. No time to flesh out the rest of the cast that were setup from previous seasons. Less moments for us to 'take it easy' and appreciate the Haikyuu moments that leave a lasting impression on us.
Still enjoyed the movie as I was watching it, just sad it wasn't given the opportunity for it to be even greater. Hope to be proven wrong on the next one. Also as an anime only, feels like I wasn't given too much confidence going into the Kamomedai match even after this Nekoma match. Hoshiumi got the commentators calling him an 'one man army.' Like please😭. Knowing what bits I know from the manga now though and how insane Karasuno's players are too, I have some faith they can pull it off.
Well said, and thanks for the comment 😸
I enjoyed the movie too, and I think the anime has always done a great job adapting it. I liked the movie, I just wanted more haha
I finished the movie when it came out to America and then I stumbled onto a TH-cam video fan animation of Nishinoya receiving the ball with the HEEL of his Foot! And I lost my mind that they didn’t animate that, and I just lost so much respect for what they are doing to this series, there is probably gonna be so much missing manga content in the next new movies, I remember finishing the movie and felt like something was missing (I’m a anime watch only btw) and I noticed there was not a lot of volleyball or it only felt focused on Kenma too much not saying it was bad it’s just literally everything was missing, such a really disappointing year or decade for sports anime fans we got Haikyuu that doesn’t even want to be faithfully adapted and we got a shitty Blue Lock as a power point project.
I'm scared to continue Blue Lock. Even the Blue Lock fans told me NOT to watch it. 😹
14:58 I get your point but A LOT of players are left out in ACE of diamond cause its eseier to focus on 7 players in a game than 9, in a single team not mentioning the other team, btu yeah there are more characterization on ACE of diamond cause there are lot more of them but its not as deep as in haikyuu
They're both really good at it, basically. And yeah it's harder with baseball having so many players on the field AND like 40 players at Seido all competing over bench spots 🤣
@@oEllery yeah basically that I understood his argument, but for me comparing the both of them its like comparing the power of the legs/ foot between rugby and football, one clearly as more power and the other more tecnice
I agree with you. I remember this match in the manga made me breathless, it was so so good but the movie, althought amazingly animated, felt a little bit underwhelming; it was a good volley match but rushed (they could at least made a longer movie..?) and I fear how much they'll cut for the final movie!!
I think Haiykuu! as a whole is such an unfortunate example of missed timing. Because the manga has been finished for so many years, the waning interest has felt a lot more noticeable in these movies. For such an iconic and inspirational manga, everything matters. This movie felt like it misunderstood the fact that character writing was always the strong point, and because of that we only saw straight volleyball highlights, which ruined the dramatic impact that so many of these moments cultivated over so many arcs.
The only bad thing about this movie was that it had to cut scenes. There's only one I wish they didn't cut, and it's Nishinoya's foot save, like thats too epic not to keep
Yes, we needed more 😸
@@oEllery Honestly, they should have pushed for 2 hour long movie. Even if then Nekoma and Karsuno match ended before, they could just make a few cuts to Bokuto's match where he was on fire
@@w1nther930 2 Hours would have been great. I was thinking about that too !
The fact it went down to making 2 movies with 2 full games and a timeskip after making so much money and I think still making loads is so sad even if the games themselves were made like season 3 like the whole thing just being that one game wouldve been better the manga is too good for it to be treated this way
I feel that they completely missed what makes Haikyuu matches great. It's a season full of building tension and excitement which you finally see coming to a conclusion on the last episode, which makes each match intense. By making it into a movie, they completely lost the tension. It felt too quick for my liking and since this isn't a real volleyball match, I didn't find myself excited for the finale. However, the finale was done in a very cool manner with the camera work!
i really wish they would do what demon slayer did with mugen train where they released a tv series version of the movie with extended scenes…
For me
This movie for genuinely top tier content
Hell i nearly cried watching this
But after i read the manga
I like to think the animaters didn't want to do so much cool moments like in inarizaki match because they wanted to go to an emotional route
But one of major themes they missed of the match was that
Karasuno is no Longer the underdogs
Karsuno is a powerhouse which has aoba joahai shoratorizawa and inarizaki powershouses
It might not be even be true that they were equals since nearly everyone neraly knew even it was a tiny bit that nekoma cant beat karasuno
I loved the movie and i am not lying about but i sincerely wished they would karasuno the powerhouse or the monsters of the court they were shown in the manga ❤
Sorry if my spellings were wrong
I would love the bigger video about all the removals
I had asked a question once about why they don't include everything from the manga to the anime and not deviate from the manga and it was because they encourage the people to read the manga. It does kinda suck though because ya wanna see it animated where they move when it comes to a sports manga especially.
GREAT VIDEO🏐🔥🔥
Thank you 😹
What I really miss are the commentators
They were epic imo 🔥🔥
Agreed. They were so good in the manga
I dont think what was cut out of the movie offends me that much, but since in comparisson they gave it SO MUCH TIME to the Inarizaki match, that I DIDNT CARE ONE BIT about, that makes me upset
i genuinely feel that this was the worst haikyu movie yet, despite the better animation and the way it felt like a real match
i do think that the way scenes were directed here can be used for future parts if they are seasons[pacing wise, not animation because that would cost more and would need overworking staff even more]
but story wise and character wise[including kenma , shoyo and kuroo] the movie did feel very poor and anime wise , i'd say that pretty much every major match before this[detoko, both seijoh matches, shiratorizawa, inarizaki] was better and some minor matches were better too[kakugawa, wakutani] , which is quite sad given that it's my favorite match in the manga and it doesn't make me confident for my 2nd favorite match in the manga[kamomedai]
Hopefully the next movie is really good. All we can do is hope for the best ! 😇
i agree to this video
They went the lazy route just like Tsutomu Nihei did with Knights of Sidonia.
this movie needs to be remake or entire haikyu
I'd be happy with a full Season 5 at least 😸
😭😭😭😭😭
They cut his epic heel save 😂😭
What I actually want to see here is how the battle in the dumpster started, where it really begin
It's at the very start of the match! In the manga, the first few chapters of this arc are all about Granda Ukai and Nekomata 😭
@oEllery yes i know, and they really missed that part since its the very foundation of the battle of the dumpster
as much as i love haikyuu it just makes me upset that there are are part of the mannga which are not in the anime especially in the movie like they cut off so many parts that its not funny they did not add one of fav nishinoya plays and its not funny i just hope they do not cut of more parts in the other movie cuz it wont be nice
I try to be optimistic whenever I can. Hoping the next movie will be really good 😅
Ok question, which Manga chapter should I read to read about this match?
293 is where the scenes between Grandpa Ukai and Coach Nekomata start! After that is the match!
@@oEllery Thanks I will check it out!
Bro ur videos are good af but fix ur mic quality, it doesn't need a lot, a few pillows or a fat jacket does the job 😭
Actually agree 100%
I was just talking today about how badly I need to upgrade my audio setup 🤣😭
@oEllery it's a process 🙏 keep up the work
damnnnnnn
So basically, the disappointments people have is that it's not like the manga, completely forgetting that it's a movie and they have to streamline it. There's almost never criticism about the ACTUAL movie
I also think something is missing. The ending is was so dull .
I believe a lot of the cuts came from the final set, this might be why!
The movie was amazing. Yes, they cut stuff because they had to, but the movie still ended up incredible in the end. Manga readers are out here acting like it was total trash because it's missing a few moments.
First off haikyuu is really not a series where you can make any match a movie... especially not the nekoma match.
Secondly, nobody is saying the movie is trash ...the movie however does infact cuts out alot of the part which makes haikyuu arguably the best sports manga...sure you can argue that it's for the shortage of time, to which the counter argument would always be why not make this entire match a season
The producers needed more budget. No fan decided to run a GoFund initiative becoz everyone was selfish. So all you get is the movie, little bois. Carry yourself a river.
The nishinoya save on this match is so overrated. Feels so forced in the manga to just have a nishinoya moment
2:00 Sooooo...I actually animated the nishinoya heel save you can find it here
th-cam.com/video/zWhVsQ-hVTU/w-d-xo.html
And I'm animating it again to make it even better!
I'm glad you made this video to help spread awareness especially to anime only watchers on just how much cool stuff was unfortunately cut
Awesome! I'll definitely check that out. I actually watched a LOT of the fan made animations in the past, so I might have even seen yours already 😇