We have run into one roadblock after another with the 4 link suspension and we’re just getting started the bushings did not want to go in like in this video they did not slip in we had to go buy a great big bolt and draw them together like that then the right side frame rail did not want to bolt to the rear shackle it was a half inch off now the center bulkhead completely does not want to line up with where the seatbelt holes are in the rear passenger seat unbelievable and we’re just getting started
What was the final outcome, I'm interested in buying this kit but I've run into a couple of people like you that have had just nightmare stories. One guy even did a video
Still looking for a video of someone doing a competition engineering rear frame rail installation on a second gen camaro for monster tire clearance and modified and upgraded suspension. Meaning ripping out the stock rear rails and cutting up the trunk to allow the new rails to lay properly.
Do y’all still sell the spring mounting plate in front with big bolt hole that connects to the rail, I somehow messed up the threads on it, I need the front spring mount and the two bolts?
Can this kit work with relocated leaf springs? My front mounts are moved in. The car is mini tubbed with a narrowed 12 bolt. 56.25" axle flange to flange.
I've put one in from the floor on Jack stand it's really not that awful, but have the tools and equipment makes a difference, the bars to the axle it is easier to have help
Interesting system .. I don't see any Pan hard Bars .. My '79 Z-28" Camaro has Herb Adams VSE 1" rear sway bar now .. A lot stronger than the stock Z-28 Camaro sway bar.. Can I use the Sway bar that replaced my stock sway bar ? @ridchtv
a 1971 Nova is also and F body same as the Camaro.. The thing is the frame and suspension is the same between Nova and Camaro but the Bodies are different and this 4 link moots to the body too inside the car under the seats
Was thinking the same but you cant go wider tire without changing the stock tubs and narrowing the rear frame rails. So this suspension is only for suspension purposes and not fatter tire clearance.
You'll get some less than optimal pinion angle change but I doubt the handling is affected much. I still don't get why they didn't use offset upper axle brackets like DSE. Which puts the pivot behind the axle.
@@DIY-ki8bd I like that the uppers go into the back seat which buys a few more inches , but ya offset on the axle side too would be even better. That's the only thing I don't like about these kits ... the pinion angle at either end of suspension travel. The torque arm kits are better in this regard but heavier I think, more expensive and require a panhard.
Nice kit , great video
I just got my 4 link kit, sway bar and coil overs. I hope it goes this easy.
Nice video showing how it performs on the road.
Thanks 👍
nice system. I would certain consider this setup if I decide to upgrade my DSE mini tub leaf spring kit. Currently running 335 Kumhos out back.
We have run into one roadblock after another with the 4 link suspension and we’re just getting started the bushings did not want to go in like in this video they did not slip in we had to go buy a great big bolt and draw them together like that then the right side frame rail did not want to bolt to the rear shackle it was a half inch off now the center bulkhead completely does not want to line up with where the seatbelt holes are in the rear passenger seat unbelievable and we’re just getting started
What was the final outcome, I'm interested in buying this kit but I've run into a couple of people like you that have had just nightmare stories. One guy even did a video
Its in there but it took some tweaking😂
1:30 2:00 Why would you sandwich the floor insulation in the bracket? Remove it! I hate hacks.
What sub frame connectors can be used with this kit? I have a 1978 Trans Am
Great camera and edit.
Can this kit be used with detroit speed welded subframe connectors on a 75 trans am..?
Still looking for a video of someone doing a competition engineering rear frame rail installation on a second gen camaro for monster tire clearance and modified and upgraded suspension. Meaning ripping out the stock rear rails and cutting up the trunk to allow the new rails to lay properly.
Good work👍
What about straightening the rest end housing after welding? Did you Evan check it ?
So a kit that requires welding brackets onto the rear end and cutting holes in the car is considered “bolt on”?
Right!!!!! That's what I'm saying haha might as well built pro-stock car
Idk why they mentioned and showed that clip…this is meant to do away with the stock leaf springs after all.
How GM should have made this an option on the WS6 package for the Trans Am or Z28 or SS. Add a 9 inch rear, plus the works and you're golden.
I’d have had to seal those bolt holes up with some silicone and rust prevented the holes drilled. The cars too nice not too.
Anything interesting for a 4th gen? Like IRS?
If k have a rear frame rail that need patched, and install this, will I still need to patch the frame rail?
Do y’all still sell the spring mounting plate in front with big bolt hole that connects to the rail, I somehow messed up the threads on it, I need the front spring mount and the two bolts?
Can this kit work with relocated leaf springs? My front mounts are moved in. The car is mini tubbed with a narrowed 12 bolt. 56.25" axle flange to flange.
I wonder if this kit would fit in a 75-79 Aova, I really like how well designed this kit it is I want this kit in my 75 Nova.
hello, not the same as the 75-79 Nova, but i will mention the request to our engineering team.
very very good
Will a 28 inch tall tire fit to this system? 275/60/15..mt street ss..
Why this set is not available?
This looks hard as hell to do at home by myself 😥
I've put one in from the floor on Jack stand it's really not that awful, but have the tools and equipment makes a difference, the bars to the axle it is easier to have help
Interesting system .. I don't see any Pan hard Bars .. My '79 Z-28" Camaro has Herb Adams VSE 1" rear sway bar now .. A lot stronger than the stock Z-28 Camaro sway bar.. Can I use the Sway bar that replaced my stock sway bar ? @ridchtv
With this design 4 link the upper bars set the axle center and also control the side to side movement the panhard would handle.
I own a 1971 nova do you make a kit for my vehicle.
a 1971 Nova is also and F body same as the Camaro.. The thing is the frame and suspension is the same between Nova and Camaro but the Bodies are different and this 4 link moots to the body too inside the car under the seats
Nova is a X body not F body.
This is awesome! How large of a rear tire does this system allow with stock wheel tubs?
Was thinking the same but you cant go wider tire without changing the stock tubs and narrowing the rear frame rails. So this suspension is only for suspension purposes and not fatter tire clearance.
If you do mini tubs I believe 335 will fit tight
Not sure about that framework being right under the rear seat. Rear passenger is going to take a shot to the back on every bump????
Looks like there making Swiss cheese out of a perfectly good car!
I'd rather have a multilink subframe
before
you restore the car
Do you not work rust-proof when you do hole processing?
Can the stock fuel tank be used with this set-up?
yes it can
Was there any compromise on optimal link length?
You'll get some less than optimal pinion angle change but I doubt the handling is affected much. I still don't get why they didn't use offset upper axle brackets like DSE. Which puts the pivot behind the axle.
@@DIY-ki8bd I like that the uppers go into the back seat which buys a few more inches , but ya offset on the axle side too would be even better. That's the only thing I don't like about these kits ... the pinion angle at either end of suspension travel. The torque arm kits are better in this regard but heavier I think, more expensive and require a panhard.
Will this install on a second gen that already has subframe connectors installed?
Yes it should install just fine. If you have any doubts, snap a photo of the connector and email it to our tech guys.
Will this 4 link allow for dse mini tubs?
Yes sir, our 2nd gen track 1 Camaro uses the DSE Mini Tub kit
@@ridetechtv awesome thank you!
Just put in some Gabriel highjackers and call it a day...
How much is this kit?
I'll bet that it ain't cheap. Maybe $25,000
Cant see the benefits vs performance, on a daily driver
If your asking what benefits you will see on a daily driver. Ride quality and handling, are the main street car upgrades.
Why?
Because leafsprings have a very poor performance