Well, this sucks, I had to re-upload this video which means that I lost the views and comments from my previous one. The reason for this is that I usually use google ads to promote my videos when they come out but, this time, Google was blocking this video from being advertised. The reason they gave me was that it dealt with "sensitive subjects". I know right, old browsers, a sensitive subject? That doesn't make any sense. And the worst thing is that they just say "sensitive subject" but they don't tell you what the actual issue is. I tried to appeal, contact google ads support and such with no luck. So I went through the video carefully to see if there was anything that could've triggered that and the only thing I could come up with was some screen captures of wikipedia and google search that showed some current topics. I went into the youtube edits and blurred everything that had to do with politics. That didn't help. Then I went in again and found two instances where a screen capture showed the name of the famous pandemic we're going through, It's like Voldemort, you should never have any reference to it's name. One of the instances where the name appeared was in google's own search suggestions in a screen capture, so ironic! So I went into the TH-cam Editor and tried to blur those as well, after I confirmed my video was being processed for over 14 hours! It basically got stuck processing! After contacting team youtube on Twitter, they recommended deleting the video and re-uploading it, so I did that reluctantly making sure I blurred anything that could be considered a sensitive subject in the screen captures. And here's where we are today, with a re-upload that definitely hurts my already struggling channel. That's awesome!
I have a few questions, but first I want to say thank you, this video is AMAZING! Literally, I would have a question and it would be addressed within like 2 more minutes! So, my only remaining questions are: Is the slowness caused by the older computer not being able to render images fast enough, or is it something else? I have a 386SX33 machine I would love to try this on. My next question is, will the performance of the host computer have much effect on the slowness? Like, if I used a dedicated server for this, would it be any faster than using an average computer? My final question, is there a way to potentially “dumb it down” even MORE for older systems? Like, maybe instead of feeding images it converts the webpages into an older HTML that the browser can handle, but still keep all the content? Again, this video is truly amazing, I am so glad I found it! Thanks for your time!
Hi! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Sadly, yes it's slow because the computer has difficulty rendering that many images in succession. A 386 would be even worse. Also translating the pages to simpler html would work biut that would have to be done on a per page manner as every page is different. You could use something like readability for articles or other text heavy content, but any site that is more interactive would probably not work. This is the only realistic way to load modern sites on old computers.
@@TheEricExperiment Ah ok, I guess that makes sense. I still think it is pretty cool that you can load up something like Amazon or even TH-cam on such an ancient machine XD Thank you for your answer and keep up the great videos!
Im so sorry that google fucked you over. I love your videos - this one was a full train ride and hard for me to understand, but I love the nostalgia of it!
Funnily enough I had never heard of your channel or this video before. I was googling about web rendering proxies and found this video and your channel. I'll try WRP with Netscape 3.0 on an old mac and I'll also attempt to get netscape 4.0 into it with your modded version. 25mhz and 12mb of ram should be plenty for the modern internet Just saying since most comments are about this being a reupload.
That processor and ram might be enough for WRP but I think it's gonna struggle with the others. The computer in the video is a Pentium MMX 233mhz with 128mb of ram and that's the performance I got on that pc.
Hi, sorry for the delay. You need to run `yarn` to install the dependencies and then you run `yarn go` to run it. It's gonna show the url to be accessed on the other computer.
Yeah. You have to clone the repo. Then go in the folder and run yarn or npm install so the dependencies are installed. Then basically you just run run it with yarn or npm. I don't remember if it was yarn start/npm run start or something else, but you can see what it is on the package.json file.
@@TheEricExperiment I did it! BTW your proxy server is way much better than both WRP and Browservice. You just have to add a couple of things to it to make it even better. For example screenshot format selection and compression quality control, a view page source option, a textbox to add keystrokes, back and forward buttons, a Chrome extension manager, a user agent changer, an FTP server to upload and download files from/to an old computer, make the Chrome instance headless etc. Can you add these features to your proxy server?
@@newretrogames1404 Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you managed to get it working. Yeah, I have to find time to do it, I have been working on multiple projects and I have limited time. But if I find the time, I'll definitely improve it.
if i used an i9 9900k to host browservice, would it be powerful enough to do roblox? lol... well, if anyone out there can do this, i'd like to see roblox being played on an imac G3 through this
If it can run on chrome on that computer, it should work. The problem is that the framerate might suck as the g3 might not be able to download and render the images quick enough.
If roblox were still linux supported, id imagine thered be a way to get it going.. we need a win based browservice.. it would be comical to see roblox playing on an imac g3
Hello! I enjoyed your video. I'm struggling on how you got the Web Rendering Proxy to work. I downloaded wrp-amd64-windows.exe and put it in vbox for Windows98SE but when I click on it it says "The D:\WRP-AMD64-Windows.exe was not compiled for this version of windows." it's the wrong version and then a critical stop message which says "Windows cannot run this program because it is in an invalid format" and sometimes the critical stop says "a device attached to the system is not functioning" Is there anything that I need to download or do? Thanks in advance.
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Well, this sucks, I had to re-upload this video which means that I lost the views and comments from my previous one.
The reason for this is that I usually use google ads to promote my videos when they come out but, this time, Google was blocking this video from being advertised.
The reason they gave me was that it dealt with "sensitive subjects".
I know right, old browsers, a sensitive subject? That doesn't make any sense.
And the worst thing is that they just say "sensitive subject" but they don't tell you what the actual issue is.
I tried to appeal, contact google ads support and such with no luck.
So I went through the video carefully to see if there was anything that could've triggered that and the only thing I could come up with was some screen captures of wikipedia and google search that showed some current topics.
I went into the youtube edits and blurred everything that had to do with politics. That didn't help.
Then I went in again and found two instances where a screen capture showed the name of the famous pandemic we're going through, It's like Voldemort, you should never have any reference to it's name. One of the instances where the name appeared was in google's own search suggestions in a screen capture, so ironic!
So I went into the TH-cam Editor and tried to blur those as well, after I confirmed my video was being processed for over 14 hours! It basically got stuck processing!
After contacting team youtube on Twitter, they recommended deleting the video and re-uploading it, so I did that reluctantly making sure I blurred anything that could be considered a sensitive subject in the screen captures.
And here's where we are today, with a re-upload that definitely hurts my already struggling channel. That's awesome!
And by the way, the ad review is still pending on Google Ads, so I don't know if I actually managed to fix it or all of this was for nothing.
Google is Skynet!
Mate, you intro music is probably the best on youtube, always gives me a tingle up my spine :)
Ah dude! It sucks that you had to reupload it. But don't worry, we struggle here and there, but your time will come! Your videos are simply amazing!
This is absolutely incredible, I am completely blown away.
Thanks for the shout-out!
No worries
Nice work brother. Bet you had fun achieving this result. Retrocomputing is on your DNA.
Keep up the good work!
My KNEEEEEEEEE
Your a genius getting it all working that old software something about the nostalgia of the old days it’s all too slick now
This is nuts and awesome. Love your dedication to this effort 😁
No problem man! we are here to help again with the views.
and, this time, with two different accounts
@@victornavarrecavalcantimar2666 ...or three
Hahhaha
I have a few questions, but first I want to say thank you, this video is AMAZING! Literally, I would have a question and it would be addressed within like 2 more minutes! So, my only remaining questions are: Is the slowness caused by the older computer not being able to render images fast enough, or is it something else? I have a 386SX33 machine I would love to try this on. My next question is, will the performance of the host computer have much effect on the slowness? Like, if I used a dedicated server for this, would it be any faster than using an average computer? My final question, is there a way to potentially “dumb it down” even MORE for older systems? Like, maybe instead of feeding images it converts the webpages into an older HTML that the browser can handle, but still keep all the content? Again, this video is truly amazing, I am so glad I found it! Thanks for your time!
Hi!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Sadly, yes it's slow because the computer has difficulty rendering that many images in succession. A 386 would be even worse.
Also translating the pages to simpler html would work biut that would have to be done on a per page manner as every page is different.
You could use something like readability for articles or other text heavy content, but any site that is more interactive would probably not work.
This is the only realistic way to load modern sites on old computers.
@@TheEricExperiment Ah ok, I guess that makes sense. I still think it is pretty cool that you can load up something like Amazon or even TH-cam on such an ancient machine XD Thank you for your answer and keep up the great videos!
@@93Volvo240 No problem at all!
Im so sorry that google fucked you over. I love your videos - this one was a full train ride and hard for me to understand, but I love the nostalgia of it!
Great information...Let's keep those landfills from overflowing, and save this planet...keep up the great work. Thank You :)
Funnily enough I had never heard of your channel or this video before. I was googling about web rendering proxies and found this video and your channel.
I'll try WRP with Netscape 3.0 on an old mac and I'll also attempt to get netscape 4.0 into it with your modded version. 25mhz and 12mb of ram should be plenty for the modern internet
Just saying since most comments are about this being a reupload.
That processor and ram might be enough for WRP but I think it's gonna struggle with the others.
The computer in the video is a Pentium MMX 233mhz with 128mb of ram and that's the performance I got on that pc.
@@TheEricExperiment haha yeah. I was being sarcastic when I said it was enough.
I want to see the world burn
Hahaha fair enough
I am happy to see ads that arent gramarly
I hope you enjoyed the video, that's the only practical way of getting some exposure these days.
I love older computers designs but is it possible to have fast 💨 and full hd in older computer design?
I had the same monitor when I was younger 😃
I managed to get the Browservice server to work, but now, I want to use it in a virtual machine with IE7 on Windows XP SP2? How?
Are you running Browservice in the host machine?
Interesting! Does this work on Safari?
Definitely!
I miss Netscape :(
So how do you run your node proxy if I wanted to test it out?
Hi, sorry for the delay.
You need to run `yarn` to install the dependencies and then you run `yarn go` to run it.
It's gonna show the url to be accessed on the other computer.
I sure hope this method works with IE11 when it dies on June 15th!
It most certainly will. The newer the browser, the easier it is to run it.
👏👏👏
Can you tell me how I can install your proxy server?
Yeah.
You have to clone the repo. Then go in the folder and run yarn or npm install so the dependencies are installed. Then basically you just run run it with yarn or npm. I don't remember if it was yarn start/npm run start or something else, but you can see what it is on the package.json file.
@@TheEricExperiment I did it! BTW your proxy server is way much better than both WRP and Browservice. You just have to add a couple of things to it to make it even better. For example screenshot format selection and compression quality control, a view page source option, a textbox to add keystrokes, back and forward buttons, a Chrome extension manager, a user agent changer, an FTP server to upload and download files from/to an old computer, make the Chrome instance headless etc. Can you add these features to your proxy server?
@@newretrogames1404 Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you managed to get it working.
Yeah, I have to find time to do it, I have been working on multiple projects and I have limited time. But if I find the time, I'll definitely improve it.
if i used an i9 9900k to host browservice, would it be powerful enough to do roblox? lol... well, if anyone out there can do this, i'd like to see roblox being played on an imac G3 through this
If it can run on chrome on that computer, it should work.
The problem is that the framerate might suck as the g3 might not be able to download and render the images quick enough.
If roblox were still linux supported, id imagine thered be a way to get it going.. we need a win based browservice.. it would be comical to see roblox playing on an imac g3
You can run browservice on Windows!
Use supermium
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Hello! I enjoyed your video. I'm struggling on how you got the Web Rendering Proxy to work. I downloaded wrp-amd64-windows.exe and put it in vbox for Windows98SE but when I click on it it says "The D:\WRP-AMD64-Windows.exe was not compiled for this version of windows." it's the wrong version and then a critical stop message which says "Windows cannot run this program because it is in an invalid format" and sometimes the critical stop says "a device attached to the system is not functioning" Is there anything that I need to download or do? Thanks in advance.
It's not supposed to go in your windows 98 computer, you run it on a modern computer and access it from the old computer using a web browser