Brute Bonnet's Stats Are Secretly Genius. Here's Why.

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  • @dastardlydwarf6909
    @dastardlydwarf6909 ปีที่แล้ว +8767

    Then gamefreak turned around and sighed with all that thought and effort and created flutter mane and miriadon

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +281

      Well mane has shit physical bulk to balance it
      And we’ll have to see with miraidon when it becomes legal

    • @dastardlydwarf6909
      @dastardlydwarf6909 ปีที่แล้ว +637

      @@GravityIsFalling miraidon is basically zacian 2 electric boogaloo

    • @mewhenyourmom1964
      @mewhenyourmom1964 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Yes, but the only physical priority moves (since flutter mane is super fast) are sucker punch (pretty unreliable), shadow sneak (can't touch normal types) and bullet punch (only scizor uses it)

    • @wahabadi5262
      @wahabadi5262 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      ​@@mewhenyourmom1964 one jet punch and flutter mane die

    • @mewhenyourmom1964
      @mewhenyourmom1964 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@wahabadi5262 The two most used pokemon in Ubers right now resist jet punch

  • @biglion3220
    @biglion3220 ปีที่แล้ว +3549

    Brute Bonnet got targeted by Gamefreak 😭

    • @Bioniclema90
      @Bioniclema90 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Right? Like, I don't even play Pokémon anymore and I'm still pissed that they kept something so hilariously broken out of the game

    • @yumnykiddd1312
      @yumnykiddd1312 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The new Toedscruel has an ability specifically designed to make it move slower than the enemy

    • @limerumpus3589
      @limerumpus3589 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@yumnykiddd1312 toedscruels ability hurts so much. getting a detrimental ability is usually for pokemon that have good stats but for toedscruel its just to nerf its 1 op move. feel like it would be better without spore if it could atleast have a decent ability

    • @sushmitasunuwar32
      @sushmitasunuwar32 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@limerumpus3589
      not just better but the best. It would have been the fastest spore user with a lot of decent utilities like knock off, rapid spin, spikes, toxic spikes, screens, leech seed, etc.
      God.!!!
      We were robbed of an OU status mon. Even gholdengo would fear an earth power or knock off from it.

    • @aetherresonant9079
      @aetherresonant9079 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is the generation with flutter mane, palafin, iron bundle, espathra, and annihilape, and brute bonnet is the one that gets specifically designed to not upset the meta

  • @straypaper
    @straypaper ปีที่แล้ว +843

    Gamefreak: "My work here is done."
    *Continue to create Chi Yu and Flutter Mane*

    • @AAZ-yu5ss
      @AAZ-yu5ss ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Creates Iron Bundle and Miraidon.

    • @mathieuxlaflamme2322
      @mathieuxlaflamme2322 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@FoxxPlushie "but they only shat in our mouths 4 times instead of 5 times, its progress!"
      Thats how you sound.

    • @daofficerofthenoodles7504
      @daofficerofthenoodles7504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paladin and anillape

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kung-Pao

    • @-libertyprimev1-902
      @-libertyprimev1-902 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      While also continuing to nerf Regigigas, even when Zacian in its debut generation had a higher Attack+Speed Stat, one of the best typings in the game (while Gigas is pure Normal), and not only a beneficial Ability but an amazing ability... (And before someone says its for inspiration reasons, why would the Doggo with a Stick in its mouth stronger than God Himself?)

  • @genuineangusbeef8697
    @genuineangusbeef8697 ปีที่แล้ว +773

    A quirk of this is that Intimidate applies before Booster Energy, and that when picking a stat to boost Protosynthesis does consider stat stage drops. Thus, if your opponent procs Intimidate vs Brute Bonnet, it can get a Speed boost for fast Spores.

    • @Chrjstheshadow
      @Chrjstheshadow ปีที่แล้ว +179

      If you intentionally nerf your bonnet that much just for the niche chance of the speed boost, you deserve it

    • @mighark54
      @mighark54 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@Chrjstheshadow you don't need to nerf your bonnet too hard to get a speed boost after intimidate, if you go max speed jolly you only need to drop the attack evs to 220 to have exactly 1 point of speed higher after an intimidate at level 50. Assuming I did the calc right since dmg calc doesn't show numbers for -1

    • @Handlingthesenuts.
      @Handlingthesenuts. ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Would tablet of ruin work as well? Send out brute bonnet and Wo chien and have wo chien reduce the attack of brute bonnet by 25% to get booster speed

    • @theAsi
      @theAsi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Handlingthesenuts. But you cant spore wo chien so who cares

    • @Handlingthesenuts.
      @Handlingthesenuts. ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@theAsi no wo chien and brute bonnet as teammates

  • @colonelcider8292
    @colonelcider8292 ปีที่แล้ว +2792

    This is how you know that gamefreak just doesn't care sometimes.
    Balances brute bonnet.
    Let's other broken mons exist

    • @agustinberto6138
      @agustinberto6138 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      Gamefreak: makes sure brute bonett can't trigger speed with protosynthesis
      Also Gamefreak: yeah Fluttermane is perfect and completely balanced 👌

    • @brentvalliere7624
      @brentvalliere7624 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Most of the other broken pokemon are only busted in singles. Doubles is the vgc format so that's what they balance it for

    • @colonelcider8292
      @colonelcider8292 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @Brent Valliere miraidon and koraidon
      Zacian
      Mega ray
      Primals
      Shadow tag
      Tapus
      The new Tapus (mainly ting-lu)
      There are plenty of unbalanced pokemon on VGC, it's not just a singles issue

    • @kronalord3764
      @kronalord3764 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@colonelcider8292 main legendaries aren’t meant to be that balanced tho

    • @colonelcider8292
      @colonelcider8292 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kronalord that's my point...
      Are you stupid?
      Literally my point was that sometimes Pokemon doesn't care about balance. There are plenty of examples of broken things being in VGC and in singles format.
      They have things such as the examples I've listed and more.
      Gamefreak could have easily made the pokemon less broken, but they chose not to. They could have easily made zacian more like zamazenta but chose not to cause they don't care.
      They could have easily made the abilities balanced but chose not to.
      Like zacian now only has 1 activation of its ability for the whole match. That could have been its original ability.
      Box legendaries can be good pokemon but also balanced. Gamefreak chooses not to do that

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV ปีที่แล้ว +295

    I feel better knowing Toedscruel wasn’t the sole target of Spore balance.

  • @user-fm6no9el3f
    @user-fm6no9el3f ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Man Gamefreak really shafting Spore users this gen, first Toedscruel and now Brute

    • @cryochick9044
      @cryochick9044 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      they almost always have
      spore is SUPER op to the point many for fun tiers ban it outright

    • @Repetoire
      @Repetoire ปีที่แล้ว +64

      You can never have a fast spore user, it's too powerful. Sleep is strong as it is.

    • @CoralReaper707
      @CoralReaper707 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I mean...slow sleep has it's upsides. It guarantees at least one turn of sleep so that you can switch to something faster and then donk your opponent

    • @DrCoeloCephalo
      @DrCoeloCephalo ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@Repetoire Sleep is just a broken and dumb debuff purely because of how Pokemon is designed. The number of monster collectors out there with just as strong or even stronger debuffs is very large. They just make getting rid of the debuffs a skill issue while with Pokemon, getting around Sleep is a coin flip.

    • @johnhawkins5314
      @johnhawkins5314 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Similarly at least they gave Toedscruel's spore the ability to sleep Gholdengo

  • @EpiclyEpicGamer
    @EpiclyEpicGamer ปีที่แล้ว +67

    They did the same thing with buzzwole kinda, with its attack and defense stat at 139 and speed at 79, if you maxed out speed and lowered both attack and defense as much as possible, one of them will always be higher by 1 point due to Nature's only being able to negatively affect 1 stat, this was probably done so it wouldn't have the combination of speed beast boost and fell stinger

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I seriously doubt it
      That combo isn’t broken in any way

    • @justatogepienjoyingchocolate
      @justatogepienjoyingchocolate ปีที่แล้ว +37

      And then they decided to give his wife Pheromosa a million attack and speed lol

  • @mushroomdude123
    @mushroomdude123 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    So glad for this. One of the things I hated about SwSh VGC was how omnipresent Sleep Powder Venusaur was. Imagine that but if it couldn't miss.

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      At least this gen we got Gholdengo and Garganacl, which are immune to sleep, and Chi-Yu which can one-shot with Psychic.

    • @omnipresentcatgod245
      @omnipresentcatgod245 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Just use fire moves on chi-yu

  • @Mr_Wholegrain
    @Mr_Wholegrain 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Do you want to go fast or do you want to hit hard? Your Arms or your legs, Brute Bonnet? You can only keep one." - GameFreak

  • @theblueavian
    @theblueavian ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think they also did the same thing to Toedscruel. It has Base 100 speed and access to spore but if it uses spore it always goes last because of its ability.😳 Granted it’s the only Pokémon that can spore Garganacl and Gholdengo but still 🤯

    • @sheer_1
      @sheer_1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's at least one, probably multiple ways to get rid of Toedscruel's ability to trade off the ability to put Gargy and Gholdengo to sleep for speed spores

  • @black-redpill3
    @black-redpill3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something else funny is when stats tie, the boosted stat follows the descending order of stats, meaning even if it had 126 attack instead it would still get an attack boost over a speed boost with Booster Energy.

    • @victorjrromero1546
      @victorjrromero1546 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not how the stats works, or maybe in that case actually works.
      Yeah i think you are right

    • @black-redpill3
      @black-redpill3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victorjrromero1546
      Beast Boost has the same interaction for stats

    • @victorjrromero1546
      @victorjrromero1546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@black-redpill3 i mean the base stats, 126 Attack would be the same as speed, so as you say, the attack will boost anyway

  • @dazeen9591
    @dazeen9591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Game freak taking into account negative attack nature 0 IV/EV example is crazy to me. Game freak typically doesn't pay attention to these sort of stuff.

  • @alpatraxel
    @alpatraxel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    +Speed -Attack Nature: Allow me to introduce myself

    • @skrum7005
      @skrum7005 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro u blind?

  • @lkjkhfggd
    @lkjkhfggd ปีที่แล้ว +52

    An even better idea would have been to fix sleep and freeze mechanics so they weren't so broken...

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sleep is honestly fine
      Spore alone isn’t what makes amoongus so good

    • @lkjkhfggd
      @lkjkhfggd ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@GravityIsFalling In what way is sleep fine?

    • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
      @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@lkjkhfggd Rest Sleep Talk, like back in Gen 2 if sleep really becomes a problem this strategy will pop up again.
      There's also a few stat curing berries as well.

    • @kannanshrinivasan6984
      @kannanshrinivasan6984 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions lmao imagine being forced to run shit moves and items to counter a mechanic

    • @asierx7047
      @asierx7047 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I feel like they should've stuck with Legends' Frostbite status effect, which is widely considered the best take on freezing

  • @ScammertronVGC
    @ScammertronVGC ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Scarf Breloom “Allow me to introduce myself”

    • @solgaleoevans7864
      @solgaleoevans7864 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not really good to give it as choice item as after getting locked into spore, what then? You switch out? Thats a turn wasted

  • @CoralReaper707
    @CoralReaper707 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Just give Brute Bonnet swords dance. That's literally all I would want from this thing.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Growth works in sunlight

    • @CoralReaper707
      @CoralReaper707 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@12jswilson yeah, but it's not always the most reliable boosting option

    • @VenoMantis
      @VenoMantis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they seem to keep SD for sharper mon designs, or those with weapons. Brute Bonnet is just a fat ass mushroom lol

    • @CoralReaper707
      @CoralReaper707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VenoMantis to be fair, Bibarel has swords dance

  • @NLR-J
    @NLR-J ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The fact they balanced certain mon but kept almost everything else broken, proves even more how unfinished Scarlet/Violet is. Had they given themselves the time to actually balance out the game, improve framerate, fixed bugs, etc. Gen 9 could've been so much better instead of the current mess it is.
    (not saying the new games aren't fun, but it could've been much better)

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OU tier is unrecognizable because of all the op paradox, hisuian, and ruins mons.

    • @pokechannel9758
      @pokechannel9758 ปีที่แล้ว

      If everyone is broken then nothing is broken.

  • @Pudcup
    @Pudcup 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Breloom is twiddling its thumbs.

  • @tylerdamaso2559
    @tylerdamaso2559 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Listen listen speed boost baton pass espathra into booster brute bonnet

  • @matthewm3603
    @matthewm3603 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love little things that show GF keeping competitive in mind

    • @tehrik0020
      @tehrik0020 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It's all fun and games until you know, freaking Salt Cure, Shed Tail or Rage Fist.

    • @crispyfries2454
      @crispyfries2454 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Meanwhile palafin and chi yu OHKOing everything in sight

    • @Rptor_
      @Rptor_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Miriadon is probably the 3rd strongest Pokémon ever

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Then there's Fissure Ting-Lu.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Rptor_ I would say second behind Zacian crowned.

  • @Thatboigreedy
    @Thatboigreedy ปีที่แล้ว +23

    So why doesn’t breloom see play? I know base 70 isn’t “fast” but it’s sure faster than brute.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Because of lack of bulk? Seriously, Spore is A BROKEN MOVE.

    • @Relisoc
      @Relisoc ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Amoongus puts in wayyy more work overall, otherwise breloom probably would get looked at. The fact that amoongus hard counters breloom doesn’t help either. Also, brute bonnet with booster energy +speed would wind up outspeeding base 105s, 70 is quite slow in comparison

    • @diegoxavier9107
      @diegoxavier9107 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If it makes you feel better, Breloom is pretty good in early restricted formats and ones without Amoonguss because of its neat offensive toolkit to complement Spore

    • @abarette_
      @abarette_ ปีที่แล้ว

      In VGC: it's way too fucking frail.
      In BSS: it absolutely does see play. what a fucking obnoxious mon.

    • @andrewdrost6786
      @andrewdrost6786 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Amoongus is way bulkier and also gets access to rage powder, which is sometimes even more important to have than spore

  • @devincetee5335
    @devincetee5335 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Laughs in trailblaze+end of sun

  • @remiliyu
    @remiliyu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's only one way I can think of that'll trigger Protosynthesis speed with booster energy. That being Brute Bonnet being sent into Magic Room with one of it's teammates lowering it's stats (excluding speed) before it runs out. That being said, at that point, you should just use Breloom lol

    • @greavardbestboi773
      @greavardbestboi773 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or else - speed nature Bonnet in a trick room

    • @lordnatu
      @lordnatu ปีที่แล้ว

      Some abilities trigger before protosynthesis so you could do without magic room

    • @doomgirl5341
      @doomgirl5341 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@greavardbestboi773 at that point just use amoongus

  • @cosmocha6774
    @cosmocha6774 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    actually, intimmidate can still trigger protosynth speed for brute bonnet. i've tried it- by dropping the ATK, speed is the higher number, so booster energy activates it instead. pretty sick tech but very very niche

  • @yessir916
    @yessir916 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trailblaze can boost brute bonnet’s speed, then in sun, Protosynthesis boosts it’s speed boosts again

    • @vbarreiro
      @vbarreiro ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s 3 moves across at least two turns where a lot can go wrong, which balances it
      Turn 1 BB trailblazes, hoping it doesn’t get KO’d
      Turn 2 you either Sunny Day or switch to Torkal, and only THEN you can spore.
      At that point, it’s slightly less practical and much less reliable than trick room amoongus
      If it could just use Booster Energy, it could get a speed stat of 175 turn 1, immediately threatening the whole field.

    • @challengepanda537
      @challengepanda537 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vbarreiro More like one move since doubles exists. One turn for trailblaze and then switch in a torkoal next turn and bam

    • @andrewryan9087
      @andrewryan9087 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@challengepanda537 that's still two turns.

    • @Gspoink
      @Gspoink ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bruh what's up with dog trailblaze setpost lately. First rillaboom, then hisuian decidueye, and now this. And speed is getting lower everytime lmaooooo

    • @mushublaze
      @mushublaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn't protosynthesis only work with its highest stat? Even with a trailblaze boost, its attack is still higher than its speed

  • @zachsmith2349
    @zachsmith2349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most paradox pokemon have strange, seemingly specific stats. All the past pokemon have all an odd number for each base stat and all future pokemon have an even number.

    • @kxngrxse1562
      @kxngrxse1562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bc the past pokemon are wild and a little unorganized, like a odd number, while the future ones are robotic and planned specifically, meaning they would get even spreads to their abilities

    • @Handlingthesenuts.
      @Handlingthesenuts. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s like ultra beasts had prime numbers for their base stats except for naganadel, whose base speed stat was 121

  • @nathantheboi9616
    @nathantheboi9616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it should be said that under certain circumstances, when a pokemon's highest stat is lowered, ie: lowered atk or sp atk, the next highest stat will be boosted by protosythisis. so you could potentially partingshot your own brutebonnet to instead boost it's speed stat. just something to hink about

    • @anathos0369
      @anathos0369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the boost of energy booster if active from the very moment you send it so even with that property you couldn't boost his speed,
      but there is other ways like trailblaze to make your favorite mushroom faster.

  • @nathanielbass771
    @nathanielbass771 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breloom with base 70 speed at max 265: "Hi!" -also has mach punch, swords dance and now has access to tera ghost to block extreme speed, quick attack, fake out and mach punch. For that matter, Brute Bonnet gets sucker punch and trail blaze

  • @orkiporki8895
    @orkiporki8895 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's actually two points short, because if its Speed was the same as its Attack, Protosynthesis would still boost Attack. If a Pokemon has multiple best stats, the game prioritizes them in the order of Attack, then Defense, then Sp.Atk, then Sp.Def, and lastly Speed.
    Giving Brute Bonnet 125 Base Attack would be more frustrating because of this, it ties with its Speed at bare minimum Attack and funnily enough this still holds at Level 100 so you wouldn't be able to pull off fast Spore even on Smogon metas.

  • @cheesefarmer6139
    @cheesefarmer6139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it was faster it would make so many sweats on showdown cry

  • @johnnyp1986
    @johnnyp1986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is until you change Mycelium Might from Toedscruel and it starts sporing left and right😭

  • @moai4867
    @moai4867 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agility then sun could be deadly.

  • @aquaknight2269
    @aquaknight2269 ปีที่แล้ว

    brute bonnet's stats: I prevent a fast spore user from existing as that would be overpowered.
    breloom: am I a joke to you?

  • @ryanmoran8787
    @ryanmoran8787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buzzwole is the same way. If you run minimum attack and defense and maximum speed, you need a negative nature and can only get one of either attack or defense below its speed

  • @diablorojosincero4040
    @diablorojosincero4040 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saving the competitive world? Broken ahh meta ☠️☠️☠️

  • @trevorpacelli8056
    @trevorpacelli8056 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: "Laughs in Trick Room."

  • @quelloscarsoaivideogiochi2587
    @quelloscarsoaivideogiochi2587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time to choice scarf

  • @Phychologik
    @Phychologik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Choice scarf: 🗿

  • @nerfganon9214
    @nerfganon9214 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is literally the first thing I did when brute bonnet became legal and I was so disappointed I couldn't raise its speed

  • @scrub4327
    @scrub4327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a perfect addition to my trick room team

  • @watcherknight8760
    @watcherknight8760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gamefreak is only scared of 1 thing, a moderately fast spore user

  • @therealshocky
    @therealshocky ปีที่แล้ว

    Man got nerfed before he could do anything

  • @ThePika78
    @ThePika78 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breloom: "Am I joke to you?"
    Yes, yes he is.

  • @nazra1127
    @nazra1127 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    me with choice scarf brute bonnet: hold my beer

  • @spicycheese7602
    @spicycheese7602 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want pokemon like this and sandy shocks to be good, they are so weird and goofy and i love them

  • @dkznikolaj7013
    @dkznikolaj7013 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear, gamefreak has 1 unique person create 1 pokemon each, and sometimes we get this, sometimes they just asked the local hobo and he said "All in on attack and speed"

  • @nament7575
    @nament7575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to do a thing in Gen 8 doubles where I used prankster meow stick and skill swapped it with Amoogus to get priority spore

  • @GustoFormula
    @GustoFormula ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally found out this pokemon exists yesterday from the book in the school library in Scarlet and was excited to see it in the wild, and then I get it spoiled right in my face the next day 😭

  • @userunknown3761
    @userunknown3761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think what most people in the comments are missing is the luck aspect. Yes there are other broken mons but spores is a completely luck based move. Luck for it to hit, then luck for the sleep duration.
    Other mons are outright more broken but less luck based.
    Neither are healthy but usually avoiding too many luck based mechanics is preferable.

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spore is 100%

    • @AnglosArentHuman
      @AnglosArentHuman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      > spore
      > luck for it to hit
      My nigga, Spore has been 100% to hit since Gen 1

    • @sheeplol2161
      @sheeplol2161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnglosArentHuman gen 2*

  • @derpmiregaming368
    @derpmiregaming368 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learned the 1 difference the hard way when i brought it into my team in showdown

  • @adamandom
    @adamandom ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought Id see Freezai referencing hbomberguy's title format but here we are

  • @emceechupitheundying5692
    @emceechupitheundying5692 ปีที่แล้ว

    *stares at Walking Wake, who needs for it to have its SpA EVs INTENTIONALLY lowered to 248-244 or lower in order for it to proc protosynth speed*

  • @7raziel7
    @7raziel7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes the balanced brute bonnet and Tinkaton but allows things like flutter mane and chiyu to exist

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chi yu isn’t even broken

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GravityIsFalling Have we been playing the same game. I'm a Chi yu stan and like it more than it's counterparts. But that thing was Busted with it's ability. There's a reason that thing is in Ubers with Fluttermane. Even resisting it's Fire Attacks with good Tank Stats to back it up doesn't garuntee you can deal with it.
      That thing is a menace and just like the other mentioned was shaping the Meta entirely around it not many mons can do it. Very few could battle against it and even less could switch into it. One wrong mistep against Chi yu basically means you have lost the game

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.dylansgame5583
      VGC
      This video…is about…VGC

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GravityIsFalling And... Chi Yu can be a menace in Doubles as well. Even if both mons target it that just leaves room for it's partner to go Banana's Chi Yu doesn't have Bad Bulk is Fast and Hit's like a Freight-train even against Resists. Sure it doesn't have good moves to hit both mons at the same time but that strategy is honestly overrated.
      And when paired with the right partner basically can net you two kills for free. Even in a 6v6 that's at least a third of your team gone before you can react. Most people won't be expecting it and even if you predict it and have a decent counter that doesn't mean your getting off much easier. Unless you Double Protect turn one but that's a waste and how many mons run a set like that.
      If you attack both at the same time from turn one since VGC is so focused on Status, Support, and setting things up for later. You can just throw a wrench in their plans from turn 1 instead of playing to the other persons shenanigans. This is why VGC is so stagnant no one is willing to go against the meta and grain. Yet my meme mons back from Gen 4 to 5 got me invited to invitationals when I was younger didn't even understand EV's, IV's, Good Sets, Etc.
      I find if your smart and play against the Meta instead of with it your more overall likely to find success unless you constantly make bad plays. Instead of running the same cookie cutter teams everyone makes i just run whatever beats out the current threats. And that hasn't steered me wrong as mentioned by the previous accomplishment as I have had a consistent high elo in both singles and doubles on multiple tiers on Showdown.

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dr.dylansgame5583
      It’s good, but not broken

  • @MunchVGC
    @MunchVGC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a way to get it to boost Speed. If a Booster Energy user, let's say Iron Hands, was sent out at the same time as an Intimidate user, the Atk stat will be lowered first, and then Booster Energy will then boost the next biggest stat, which will then be Defense. So if you lead the min Atk max Spe Brute Bonnet and the opponent leads with something like Arcanine, you will get the Speed boost.

  • @bohanxu6125
    @bohanxu6125 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "damn I am too strong. I wish could have been weaker"

  • @slightlyuncomfortable
    @slightlyuncomfortable 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Note that this is only at level 50. When engaged in lvl 100 formats, a min attack max speed booster energy brute bonnet will get the speed boost

  • @marianorivera3272
    @marianorivera3272 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scarf Breloom is goated.
    so much fun back in DPP. that thing could hit spore before literally any mon not running a scarf could move.

  • @emileemile7451
    @emileemile7451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WHO GON STOP ME FROM SCARFING?

  • @CausticFoil
    @CausticFoil ปีที่แล้ว

    Then there's Breloom, which can very quickly spore, substitute and tera electric to turn its 4x weakness into a resistance. Then it has the option to run leech seed + leftovers or mach punch + bullet seed with access to technician and loaded dice.

  • @kenanroberson
    @kenanroberson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uhhmmm? Breloom is faster then both and has spore.. right?

  • @brian_zouuu
    @brian_zouuu ปีที่แล้ว

    Drought Eruption Torkoal + Choice scarf Brute Bonnet = win

  • @TheEnigmaticBM39
    @TheEnigmaticBM39 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh yes, my favorite route theme ..mnice touch

  • @robertgray3710
    @robertgray3710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brute bonnet with choice scarf:

  • @TheDancingMudkip
    @TheDancingMudkip ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick claw enters chat

  • @shadowspartanzeta7
    @shadowspartanzeta7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breloom wants to know your location

  • @AhmedKhaled-qh3ub
    @AhmedKhaled-qh3ub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mycelium might.

  • @kingwhacka8105
    @kingwhacka8105 ปีที่แล้ว

    But they know that you can doodle grafaiai next to toedscruel. Pretty sure they’re found in the same area too so we do get a lil “wink wink, nudge nudge” still

  • @The_Hand
    @The_Hand ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And then Breloom exists in the same Gen so it doesn’t matter

    • @anathos0369
      @anathos0369 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah but breloom is actually less powerfull than this thing (at least in the 6v6) because that shroom can trailblaze thus become fast af and spore everything.
      In Anything goes when there is no sleep clause this is a monster.

    • @IconicTristan
      @IconicTristan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Breloom is never used over Amoongus, it’s not tanky enough and 70 base speed isn’t enough to compensate for its lack of bulk, it just gets one shot before it can move. It doesn’t even get Trailblaze to boost its speed it’s horrid

  • @snomle
    @snomle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trickroom: Am I a joke to you?

  • @sonicx711
    @sonicx711 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And then you have madlads who run trailblaze bonnet

  • @InciniumVGC
    @InciniumVGC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brute Bonnet can still fast spore under Tailwind ;)

  • @hikermichael9443
    @hikermichael9443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tailwind brute bonnet would still work though

  • @hellohi2516
    @hellohi2516 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Bruce Bonnet”

  • @itz_gl1tch775
    @itz_gl1tch775 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    crazy to target brute bonnet when ursaluna, flutter and ogerpon exist

  • @supermahir59
    @supermahir59 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brute bonnet is underrated

  • @aquarsene1747
    @aquarsene1747 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean…. That is super clever and interesting to see how they balanced it out like that.
    (Fissure Ting-Lu enters the chat)
    Oh…..

  • @TeBoy010
    @TeBoy010 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my first time playing pokemon white, team was galvantula, Carroscotta, emboar, krookodile, swoobat, and ovc Amoongus, comments on amoongus, can take super effective moves with over half, spore and solar beam combo was scary, plus synthesis, he was unstoppable

  • @beerypollens
    @beerypollens ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trick room:

  • @majintv24
    @majintv24 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe protosynthesis is based on stat changes so if bonnets attack were lowered or speed were raised then trigger protosynthesis you could get a speed boost. I believe this because of an ubers game i had where my speed proto walking wake came in on stickywebs so protosynthesis boosted spa over speed. Unless showdown has it wrong which has happened in the past may be worth testing

  • @Hnui03
    @Hnui03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just use Trailblaze. I use Booster Energy Attack + Max Speed Trailblaze with Crunch and CC as the last 2 moves. Trailblaze hits deceptively hard, especially since you can boost against a sleeping opponent for multiple turns. And the other moves provide perfect coverage so that you can win, or at least cripple, every 1v1. Singles Battle Spot btw

    • @andresmunoz6356
      @andresmunoz6356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But that isn't the point, the point of the video is that gf shaftes brute bonnet to not be a First Turn speed spore user

    • @Hnui03
      @Hnui03 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andresmunoz6356 I know I know, but Brutes got the bulk to survive a hit, put them out of commission, then boost it's speed multiple times. Then just sleep and slam everything. It's a surprisingly fun strat

    • @Gspoink
      @Gspoink ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very luck reliant, as all thing should be expected for bss. For real though that work just there because everyone can spam Spore with no consequences lol. But No hate, if you find success there use it

    • @Hnui03
      @Hnui03 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gspoink I wouldn't say it's luck reliant, aside from sleep turns being a cruel mistress, but it is very matchup reliant, since it can thud vs opposing Grasses and Flyers especially, but that's why it pairs so amazingly with hazard support and/or Iron Moth. The duo are surprisingly potent. Even if Bonnet itself is walled/threatened, it can still leave an opponent asleep for easy setup/attacks from the Fire type. I was initially disappointed by how little use Trailblaze actually has outside of gimmicky Tera abuse, but Bonnet using it for 1st turn sleeping is amazing. At +2 with 180 Speed Jolly, you actually outrun Dragapult by one point, allowing for a good amount of HP and Attack to make the setup just that much more reliable

    • @Gspoink
      @Gspoink ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hnui03 fair lol, I have nothing against you anyway. Peace.

  • @TheHatShallDie
    @TheHatShallDie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah yes, I (Gamefreak) will balance this Pokémon around one move that I could choose not to give it and thereby shaft it right up the urethra with a flaming hot poker instead of making it a more offensively inclined Pokémon with differently distributed stats without that move, crippling its viability to erase a mistake I could have not made in the first place.

    • @SwagnerCountsThings
      @SwagnerCountsThings ปีที่แล้ว

      And not give a mushroom pokemon spore? Are you insane?

    • @TheHatShallDie
      @TheHatShallDie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SwagnerCountsThings it’s the more reasonable of the two options.

    • @lucasgreer1736
      @lucasgreer1736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's paradox amoonguss, amoonguss's entire thing is spore

  • @MrcreeperDXD777
    @MrcreeperDXD777 ปีที่แล้ว

    History is written by the victors, or more accurately, history is re-written by the prideful

  • @Ronin_PB
    @Ronin_PB 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speed Boost Protect into Baton Pass could do it though. A lot of setup but could be worth it

  • @robplaysstuff6029
    @robplaysstuff6029 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is also why mycelium might exists

  • @brendanboomhour7606
    @brendanboomhour7606 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then there's Toedscruel, which is fast, but fucked over by it's god awful ability

  • @SheridanLilac
    @SheridanLilac ปีที่แล้ว

    Xurkitree because of the stats will only ever get a Special Attack boost from Beast Boost no matter how minimal its special attack can get

  • @Tealoe
    @Tealoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Booster Energy can trigger Speed on Brute Bonnet if the following conditions are met: 1) Brute Bonnet has 252 SPE EVs and 0 ATK EVs. 2) Brute Bonnet enters the field while Sun is up. 3) Brute Bonnet's attack is lowered by 1 stage, OR it's speed is increased by 1 stage. 4) Sun goes down while Brute Bonnet is still on the field.
    Booster energy will trigger, boosting speed since it is now it's highest stat.

  • @eduvbs
    @eduvbs ปีที่แล้ว

    Toadscruel have the same reason for Miscelanius Magnum, but in my opinion the drawback could be just acting 50% speed when using status move

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ungaboonguss moment

  • @sillylilleavanny
    @sillylilleavanny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does he sound exactly like the embodiment of the nerd emoji😭😭

  • @AstroPC96
    @AstroPC96 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna know how Amoonguss will perform when Miraidon becomes legal in VGC!

  • @bruceblack950
    @bruceblack950 ปีที่แล้ว

    The big brain starts from Nintendo

  • @ScriptCatz
    @ScriptCatz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like this is just coincidental. Like c’mon, have you seen fluttermane? They have no fucks to give about balance

  • @nekomataumbreon
    @nekomataumbreon ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay but, hear me out, quick claw Spore Brute Bonnet

  • @kr555wizard
    @kr555wizard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wait i'm now just curious what happens when you have the mon's highest stats be both exactly the same number, how does the ability work? does it randomly pick between the 2 or does it have a favored stat?

    • @victorjrromero1546
      @victorjrromero1546 ปีที่แล้ว

      If two stats tie the priority is
      Attack > Defense > Sp. Atk. > Sp. Def. > Speed
      So if Attack is the same as speed then it boost your attack

  • @icesodapap5158
    @icesodapap5158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly max speed with trailblazer and natural bulk allows it to outspeed and spore

  • @PabloVargasHernandezIng
    @PabloVargasHernandezIng ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can fix your lisp, there is therapy.

  • @crimsonstride5457
    @crimsonstride5457 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's actually hilarious

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember trying to test this out to see if it was possible to have speed be the highest stat and was pretty disappointed after discovering this.