What We Learned After Testing a Toyota Tundra for 40,000 miles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
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It's not easy to sell full-size pickups to truck-lovin' Americans unless you're an American brand. When we added a 2023 Tundra Hybrid Limited to our long-term fleet last year, we knew Toyota didn't design it to topple the Detroit Three. Yet we wondered if the reinvented Tundra could shrink the gap between itself and America's favorite pickups. After 40,000 miles, we have an answer.
The Tundra got a top-to-bottom redesign for 2022 that brought a more chiseled body and a Peterbilt's schnoz. It dropped the old V-8 in favor of a trio of V-6s, adopted a sturdier ladder frame, and replaced the rear leaf springs with coil springs.
The rear-suspension change helped transform the ride from jittery to buttery, especially with the optional load-leveling rear air suspension. Our Tundra was so equipped, and its smooth-driving nature received tons of logbook praise, with one staffer even comparing it to a Ram 1500-currently the benchmark in the segment. Not only did the Tundra's ride rival that perennial 10Best winner, but whether tooling around town or shuttling families across the country, we thought it drove more like a big SUV than a body-on-frame truck. That might not be a selling point for pickup purists, but it should be for everyone else.
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00:00 Intro
01:03 What we got, what it cost
02:35 The driving experience
03:52 Performance test results
04:20 The hybrid powertrain
04:56 The tonneau cover we installed
05:13 Interior
05:38 What we didn't like
07:27 Fuel economy
08:50 Winter
09:30 Service and maintenance
10:20 Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
We have about 5 of these in our shop getting new blocks. Main bearing failures on all of them ….. love how hush hush everyone is trying to be about it
Thats toyota for you. They do everything in their will to hide any bad press
You have five 2024 Tundras in your shop getting new blocks? That’s extremely weird given they are all brand new under warranty and Toyota would take care of that work. For free.
@@Vaiduoklis_Owl I work at a Toyota dealer lmao 🤣
Junks
@@tundras4ever552 Quit making logical arguments, it makes me look silly! 🤣 Well then, fudge, that’s not good news.
*MAIN BEARING FAILURES: Talk about them*
They know Toyota will do them dirty if they bring up the unreliability and poor engineering behind this powertrain. Toyota is infamous for retaliating against journalists for hurting Toyota's dying reputation for perfection.
Yes, but hybrid might be way less, due to the help of the electric motor.
He’s bought and paid by Toyota just like 80% of these reviewers
Just delaying the inevitable by a set amount or miles I imagine@@ttran8538
yeah, but they are still having less problems then GM's 6.2 and 5..3L engine probs and I am guessing Ram and Ford aren't any better as well....but I know, we all expect more from Toyota. Hopefully they can figure something out. Again, the percentage of those with engine probs are still lower than the other domestics
What I find most baffling about the new Tundra is Toyota had yeeeaaars to study the truck market and this is what they came up with?
...hey Ford has had cam phaser problems for years and they still factory install the same problems in their eco boosts till today
Car manufacturers need a reality check with their crazy prices.. its coming!
I think we need to recognize that clearly hybrids work better in cars compared to trucks. A corolla goingnto hybrid added like 1/3 efficiency but with trucks it seems to hardly make a difference
@@TheAnnoyingBoss naw. i did the math years a god when researching for a car as the cost of. A a battery failing at 150-200k miles
Offsetted the gas savings. Maybe ill do it again but changing a battery is still way more expensive than say an auto trans
COMING SMH THERE HERE
The wind noise through the doors is incredible for a $70K truck. Terrible
Did the mention it in the video. I’ve heard a lot about this issue.
Not sure what Toyota was smoking with their pricing for this generation
The craziest part is the non hybrid is actually priced really well compared to GM and Ford. Like really well. I was seeing XLT and LT trucks going for the same price as the Tundra 1795 edition
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@@yunghernando3946ford will still sell us regular cab short bed v8s or v6 or 4 bangers and it will cost less and youre buying a domestic company. More people buying f series than tundra. So parts will be way more available etc. Since we can still get regular cab short bed spec at the dealer you csn get in and out of the stealership for less. Toyota acts like they have something speical now they ride of reputation of times past which creates demand for their worse trucks now so you pay a lot for a tundra too and esspecially if they dont even offer a v8 or a short bed regualr cab pr pther varients etc. They want to sell 3.4 v6 hybrid and charge as much as possible for every one.
@yunghernando3946 Probably because the 3rd gen is so mediocre aside from engine output. The bed is smaller and less useful than a 2nd gen Tundra. The ride is worse. The fit and finish of the design is pretty poor. The public is becoming aware of the fact that even 2024 Tundras are having major engine failures. It's all dragging prices down, which in turn is destroying used values for current 3rd gen owners that potentially own a truck that could have a costly engine failure at any time. $32k to replace it and that's just a short block that the dealer will use to build an engine in the service bay. It's really completely expected that Toyota would have to throw cash on the hood to try to bring buyers in. Sales have been slow for being the newest half-ton on the market, which only adds to the pressure Toyota is feeling to get trucks off dealer lots.
@@hochhaul nah, I've owned both and the 3rd Gen is better in almost every way. Ride it's better, crewmax with 6.5' bed, better sound system, quiet ride experience, better safety. Prices are crazy for all vehicles at the moment. Also with the company issued recall, what makes you think anybody will be paying $32k out of pocket? Resale value isn't as good as it used to be, which will probably be great for somebody buying used and getting an extended warranty if Toyota offers it with the recall. And sales are not slow, April was the third most selling month of any Tundra... Ever. Where are you getting your info?
No auto 4wd, no tow hooks, plastic interior, plastic bumpers, and that front-end. I wish I liked it because I like Toyota.
Yeah we are a Toyota family and this one just doesn’t do it for me. The design is just not well executed, and the reliability issues are concerning.
I may change my mind after their emergency refresh next year though if the engine problems stop happening.
Engine failures is less than a .5%. Social media makes it sound way more severe.
I feel the same way. I love Toyota but they skimped on a lot of small things that would have made it more competitive with the big 3. And the reliability is concerning for a Toyota
@@illinoistiger8694 what reliability issues?
Cheapest plastic yet. Engine failures was the nail in the coffin. Even without engine failures, the lack of quality control, tiny bed, and weird styling made it too difficult to accept.
Love how they keep talking about how awesome Ram is but yet no one is buying them and Stellantis is about to start running dealers out of business. Several Ram dealers are having their floor plans repoed by banks
Ram is primarily a pricing issue. They need to offer 25% off msrp and they will sell again. Ram was just fleecing buyers during the shortages.
5 houses on my street alone all have RAMs lol
I'm the only one out here with a Toyota, granted it's a tiny Tacoma. I've just never been a fan of anything Stellantis.
ALL large trucks sales are compromised now. Ram is an awesome truck, far more appeal than any Tundra.
Proof? Or bull💩🤔
Real tundra owner here. I will never own a hybrid I have over 200k on mine and my wife has over 300k on her girl truck ie sequoia we love them they are rock hard reliable
Blah blah blah... it's old and outdated.... blah blah blah
Fake V8 sound can be turned off via Carista obd or through the dealer
I think rolling my back window down is really cool. Dealership has new brake kit on backorder under warranty. The engine runs great so far at 25k. The bumpers are cheap plastic. Overall, I love how it looks and tows my camper. Hope the bearing issue doesn't happen
I have a '24 pro and love it except for the bad turning radius and mpgs that I hope will get a little better.
Mpg sucks d**k! Very disappointed... plus not a fan of the engine noise
Skipped the 1st year production like everyone said and traded my '18 Tundra for the '23 Tundra. Had so many issues with it. Dead throttle at random times, screen would reset randomly, smell of antifreeze in the cab during winter months, door seal leaks, and many more issues. Got tired of going to Toyota with no fixes so traded for a '23 GMC Seirra 3.0 Duramax. 35k miles and I love it.
Got a 24 and after 2 months gave it to my wife! Went out and got a 24 Silverado zr2 with the same motor
I have the 23 Tunda Limited CrewMax(non-hybrid). 20,000 miles and about 15 of those are towing a 7500lb travel trailer in mountains. (Colorado). I change the oil every 5,000 miles (cause oil is cheap). I think the bearing failures are blown up because the old V8 was so reliable that any issues stand out. Every manufacturer out there has some issues and I think Toyota has far fewer and certainly doesn’t have any pending class action suits with their motors.
Haha
You’ve been suckered by the marketing department of a large corporation 😂 If you look at their past class action lawsuits, you’d know they have some serious recurring problems (ie 3 decades of frames rusting on every body on frame model they’ve ever made😂)
Why are you laughing at yourself
@@mvcharisma2968 smart guy... Ford and GMC have that same issue.
Call to toyota Financials to complain.
I think the idea of the hybrid in a Toyota pick up truck is not for extra gas mileage but for extra power.
Toyota should put a v8 and offer a dealer installed supercharger then...
@@Andy-lz6gb getting 20-21 mpgs in my hybrid. V6 does the job.
@@Andy-lz6gb yeah and get 10 mpg 😂
Duh
Love how they list out the $200-$400 alacarte options like you didn't have to pay 50% extra for the premium package to get the option for them 😂
Should talk about spun main bearings, turbo issues, excessive price jumps, dealer markups, Toyota not taking care of their customers anymore and not being the reliable option...
Damn, $63K for this. My 2009 Tundra Limited 5.7 V8 crew cab 4X4 was $38K. Sold it two yrs ago. Regret selling it now with this insane, inhuman prices Toyota decided to practice. Not to mention the mark ups its crooked dealers are adding.
So it’s just Toyota that has insane pricing?? Why are you just calling out Toyota and not all the rest of the companies?
@@ajmedeiros77 Because by far Toyota and its dealers are the most greedy of all. Just stating facts, nothing against them, except its crooked dealers adding $10K+ in mark ups.
38000 in 2009 is 57000 in today's money its not far off lol you need to learn what inflation is
Its called inflation.
@@ajmedeiros77 Cause by far, Toyota has the highest price mark ups in the industry.
Dad recently got a 2024 DC SR5 TRD Offroad. Honestly the truck has grown on me. I was gung ho on upgrading my Tacoma to a 2nd gen Tundra but after driving the 3rd gen for a bit ive changed my mind. Reliability is to be determined down the road but overall its a big improvement. Im sure as time goes on this will continue to get more reliable once everything gets ironed out.
17MPG… saving the planet one hybrid battery at a time… I’m so glad they threw out legendary reliability for almost no difference in fuel economy.
Avg. Mpg on the 5.7 4x4 is 13 or worse. So, a 4 mpg boost is pretty meaningful over the life of the vehicle, isn't it?
@@MrGlipsbyyoull lose that cost savings down the road if your a long time owner? What is the price of replacing the battery i wonder.
Yeah, I'm unsure of the longevity of those batteries. They are NiMh though, so not too pricey to replace compared to Lithium.
The money saved in fuel economy goes out the door with repairs. Our Prius needed a new battery and a head gasket. Toyota paid for the battery but not the head gasket. And it was a poor engine design. 3 model years newer and the car wouldn’t suffer the same fate. You have extra coolant to add to your hybrid as well.
I hear people say this but I’ve owned an 07 and now a 2020 both 5.7 4x4. I’ve never gotten that poor of mileage unless it’s city driving or sub freezing windy winter conditions. Even pulling my boat in the summer I normally get 10-12 mpg.
10:27 look at that misaligned chrome window trim between the driver front door and the rear door LOL wow
That is hideous. Unbelievable how bad that is. So many issues with panel gaps and trim. It's all over the forums.
Lol what a pos truck
I saw lots of that with the Tundra while cross shopping trucks this past winter. The fit and finish on the 3 F150s I bought was excellent; much better than the Tundra.
I was at the dealer with my 2008 5.7 and was talking to a service advisor and he said i better stay with the 5.7 and not get a new truck. He said they had several new motor failures.
As did the 5.7 when it came out
How many engines do yall go through in that 40k miles?
glad someone else noticed the front radar sensor getting covered in snow. I'm not about to use cruise control in wintery conditions, but the same sensor helps with overall safety. Is Toyota looking into a fix?
Bearings didn't fail yet?
Or he didnt tell you
Or they towed it in off camera...
So over played... every truck has it's problems...
It would seem only appropriate that your review acknowledge the massive failure of the engines. I'm a master ASE toyota technician with 5 years at toyota and many years prior. While I love toyota overall this rollout has been a disaster. 3 years in and just yesterday they acknowledged a need to recall over 95,000 tundras due to engine failure, as in complete destruction internally, that can occur while driving. -- Full disclaimer i own a 21 tundra, pre-redesign and love it. My 3 sons and wife ALL drive toyotas as well.
The wife and I bought a brand new 2023 Toyota tundra 1794 fully loaded One of the nicest trucks we ever owned here's the biggest problem We live in Arizona We understand that there's region codes where these vehicle ship apparently our region code is set to somewhere where the air conditioner doesn't have to run as often or as hard making the best air could produce cool on its best day never achieving cold or even coming close to making it cold enough to have to turn it down All of my other Toyotas just fine They fly somebody out from Colorado from Toyota to Testa vehicle He says it's within spec and there's nothing he can do about it So after 80k ++spent on the brand new truck we're stuck trying to either find a Toyota tech who can fix it or find a way to keep the air conditioner basically engaging for another minute so it will actually produce cold air super disappointing I've owned multiple Toyotas never a problem and for them to just literally tell me to go pound sand it's extremely disappointing
Toyota has lost their mind with the pricing of their new models. This Tundra is expensive, but so is the new Taco. And that fuel economy is atrocious for a hybrid. Other full size pickups without the expensive hybrid system get similar numbers. And don't get me started on that chintzy interior.
Typical dead broke piss pot who can not afford a new tundra.
The hybrid is for added power, not fuel economy. This isn’t a Prius. Ford does the same think they just named it correctly “Powerboost😎”
They did the engine because of emissions and towing.... catch up son...
If I were a Toyota engineer, I'd add a heated windshield wiper sprayer type system to blast off those radar sensors with a dedicated button on the dash, specifically when the vehicle is equipped with a cold weather package. Knowing this system from work, when the radar modules aren't working, it doesn't just cut out adaptive cruise, but the entire cruise system.
And also knowing these from work (the old Tacoma's and Tundra's also had this issue), the blind spot monitoring system modules are some of the absolute worst to deal with because of their location... I wish they'd reengineer that. Any little bump to the rear bumper ends, and everything goes out of whack, and it's so layered and needlessly complicated, it gives any wholesaler or used car dealer needless headaches down the line.
On the flipside, a broken tail light (even with the LED's and integrated tailgate release button) on these new Tundra's are several hundred dollars cheaper than say, a Big Three LED tail light (especially with the blindspot monitors built into them). I guess they had to make those compromises somewhere. Now if only they could better utilize their battery pack locations.
Blah blah blah... i need a nap after that babbling bull💩
Everyone loves to forget the 5.7 had even more problems than this engine in the first years it was built.. how about $4,000 air injection pumps my 2013 rock warrior had issues with, crankshaft failures ext
And the dealer warranty took care of that so on to the next 100,000 miles👍🏿
True, cz every auto manufacturer bring something new, they all fail in their first year then they improve, very first year of 5.7 had lot of issues, also with coolant, the new TT having issues right now, but I am sure toyota will eventually sort it out
At least it was priced fairly.
I own one and don’t like it. Seats are very uncomfortable on anything more than an hour drive, side panel of seat broke off after a few weeks, sun roof deflector tore apart after a few uses. Engine is actually pretty good to drive. I’m waiting on a ramcharger.
The bed is smaller than last gen, the ride is pretty harsh, and the fit-finish was bad in the trucks I looked at. The engine failures is a huge red flag. They claimed it was limited to 2022 but 2024 trucks are having engine failure too. Some are already on their 3rd engine.
I wish reviewers would go more in depth about seats. It’s one of the most important things for me . And it’s hard to get an idea of how good the seats actually are from a test drive
I like the seats 👍 no issues with what so ever on anything eles... mpg sucks
Love my 24 Tundra 1794. Praying it's not one of the 1% affected w/ Eng prob/failures...
LMK when the bearings give out....lots of recalls on these trucks!!
No spun bearings ?
You think this publication would tell you if that happened
I just spent 7 days and 2700 miles in my brother’s Tundra, which included a 19hr 1250 mile day. It’s fine.
Not all Tundras have the fake engine noise and it can be turned off by your dealer, or with some apps and an OBD2 connection.
As mentioned, the ride quality is impressive, but the 14” display menus aren’t intuitive.
My opinion, it’s an OK truck that isn’t worth the premium price.
Woah that is an expensive windshield. Nice truck though and useful review, thanks
I thought you guys did a long term one for the new Bronco?
Im surprised it went that far without a short block replacement.
v8 sound track (called Toyota ESE, engine sound enhancement) can be very easily turned off with a generic OBd2 reader or having the toyota dealership do it (they always do it for free)
Retractable bed step? Looks like a bike kickstand.
It's awesome, I can get in and out of the truck bed before someone with a gimmick gate can.
Toyota finally made a truck that is not horribly under powered.
Pass...to much mula
You reviewed a limited tundra. You get what you pay for.
WHERE IS WINDOW SHOPPING!? :) Good review, but we need Window Shopping!
I will keep my leaf sprung tundra v8...no thanks to turbos. The 5.7 is really not much different on fuel.
I also own a 5.7 Tundra (2017, SR5 with TRD package). I recently test drove a new Tundra. It really drives alot better than out generation truck. Power delivery(non hybrid), handling etc is all way better. As well as the interior... the longevity and durabilty though... that's still to be said. Just curious if you've driven a new one and what your impressions were.
@@chrish1850 I have not driven a new one. Maybe I should. I like the leaf springs on 2nd gen because I tow a 5 000 lb camper. Coil springs aren't as good for heavy towing.
@@chrish1850 I absolutely disagree. I traded my 2021 Tundra for a 2023. The new one drives like a SUV if that's what you like. It's not better. It's different. The new one accelerates better but sounds awful. The old one had MORE than enough acceleration and sounded wonderful. The new one has a pretty interior that rattles and has serious quality issues. The old one was rock solid and basic. The new one has paint quality issues. The old one was perfect. The new one has recurring engine issues. I'm on my 2nd engine replacement!!! My old one was perfect. I also had a 2015 Tundra with 280,000 miles on it that I traded for the 2021.
I should have kept the 2021. I'm looking for a low mile 2021 right now. I'm done with this new turbo garbage.
Having owned both you are wrong
@@kerplunk38880my experience is from the one week rental tundra I had, so not long term. Sorry to hear you have had all those issues. I obviously experienced non of what yoi described in the 23 Tundra I had.
How can we trust anybody in those jeans?
😲🤣🤣🤣
I have 2022 Tundra and 2 years old with more than 25,000 and no issues so far ... just regular oil change and few recalls ...
Same
22 tundra limited 46000 new turbo going in.
@johnpaugh1607 I don't have any issues ... just normal daily driving ... I don't understand why you have problems ... did you drive like a lunatic ? Heavy modifications on wheels tires and suspensions ???? .......
It didn't blow up?
I have two tundras 😊. Love those trucks. A 2010 trd crew max. With 297000 miles on it. Original water pump and Original 6 speed transmission. All original engine comp😅onents too. Smooth as silk. I was so impressed by this truck i bought a 2021 crew max 1794 edition black with brown leather interior tundra with the 5.7 i force V8. The Last of the V8s. I've owned different makes of trucks but none compared to the Toyota tundras. Like the commercial way back in the early 1980s. Oh what a feeling Toyota.
Long story short, Toyota still tries and fails to compete with the big 3 in full size pickup trucks. Plastic bumpers, plastic skid plates, no recovery hooks with a cheap interior and poor build quality means the Tundra continues to be miles behind Ford, Ram and GM.
That's my personal opinion as well
If the standard one is more fuel efficient than the hybrid, what's the point of the hybrid?
Power/speed? Hybrids are only beneficial in stop and go traffic, not for highway cruising, so it depends how you'll use the car to determine if it's worth it to you.
@Tolkytolkytolky I wonder how much of those gains actually translate to performance given the added weight of the hybrid system. Seems like they could have just turned the boost up a little.
It isnt and for power
@@Shakshuka69the hybrid increases the torque mostly for heavier towing duty.
The hybrid also takes up all the room under the rear seat with batteries. No thanks for the mediocre gains. I need that storage.
I had 2 of these in my biz I have a pilot car company escorting oversized loads we put 188000 on one zero problems but I had the oil changed every 5000 not as Toyota suggested 10000 I believe oil is cheap engines aren’t
His closing statements could be summed up with one word, “Meh.”
I was in the market for a new truck. After being shocked with the new extortionist prices, decided I will continue to enjoy my 2016 Tundra Platinum for the next 6-7 years.
I've have a 2021 F-150 Powerboost, and it still get's over 24 MPG in the city, far better when you have a Country drive with little stopping, sometimes reaching 27 MPG? and for the SAME MONEY.. and it's AMERICAN MADE!
tundras are made in the US too
Very same results from my '22 Lariat 502A PB. Love it...
17mpg average and well over 500 ft/lbs of torque. Definitely better than the old ones,
My 2021 with a 38 gallon gas tank tundra 5.7 I force is averaging 19 miles per gallon. The Last of the V8s truck 😮
Toyota of America 😂😂😂
Damning with faint praise indeed.
I bought a 2023 Tundra. Brakes squeal, AC not cold. Toyota refuses to fix anything. Service advisors are a joke. Toyota dealerships are like snakepits of dishonesty. I was told all 2022 to 2024 Tundras have defective brakes and bad AC, "just live with it" is their motto.
Yeah tell that to a fan boy and get called a hater or something
Your dealer sucks.
My dealer is pretty awesome. Haley Toyota in Midlothian Va., not there other locations. Those are terrible.
But as a Toyota fanboy I must say…their new trucks and SUVs are worthless cheap trash.
Tundra Sequoia Tacoma Land Cruiser and probably 4Runner too.
I hit 222,000 on my 2008 5.7L sequoia yesterday. Runs like new. No issues. All original.
This new stuff is trash. May as welll be a ford or gm.
Toyota dealers are constantly walking with one foot in bullsh!t everyday now.
I don't have either of those issues.
My ac is like a Siberian wind
As a current Lexus owner & Toyota. I would save yourself headache & buy a Nissan Titan instead. It has a N/A V8.
Buy an old new truck🤔 no thanks that thing is a outdated pig
My F150 Powerboost gets 25 MPG with no issues!
Yet
Sure haven't had any $24k engines fail!
What you should expect if you own one: your bank account is empty
Not if it's under warranty Mr negative
Looks like this was filmed months ago.
These things are so unreliable only Toyota fanboys justify them 😂
All trucks have their problems....people like what they like so who cares
THIS DUDE IS NOT A HONEST REVIEW, JUST LISTEN 5 MINS AND TURN ME OFF
My TRD Pro gets 16 MPG on a good day...abysmal fuel economy. That EPA rating of 20MPG is misleading and hypothetical.
2024 Limited TRD Max: I miss my 2007 5.7l! The power is good, not like the V8 though- the interior of the 24 is pathetic, the center console is a complete joke, the cup holders suck & the dam hump in the center rear seat......really Toyota!? I have a malfunctioning camera system, the sensors for the parking is a nerve wrecking POS! It beeps like crazy & worse yet slams the brakes on while trailering, cargo carrier or bike rack hooked up to hitch in reverse- this should hands down be a recall!!! Or a lawsuit! What the F Toyota I purchased a PICK UP TRUCK! If I wanted nerve wrecking beeps & whiplash from the brakes I would ride a roller coaster- Toyota you are simply destroying yourself!
3 MPG better after 40K miles, translates to 504 gallons of fuel.
Safety recall, beware.
Toyota didn't cover their defective windshield and charged you $1850 to fix it??
yea wtf
Haha i know right
I’ve read the grand highlander is having defective windshields also.
That's when you need to stand up for what warranty is good for. You can't be nice when you bring your vehicle in to a dealer.
wait theres denalis going for 63k?! where lol
I heard they have all sorts of turbo and engine problems. I would wait until they work out the bugs. Buying the first year of any car makers new generation is not always advisable.
Where’s Carlos???
Wow, I'm happy to see you guys didn't run into any main bearing issues with these trucks. I'm seeing horror stories about these engines all over the internet.
They actually changed the oil
Plus, there is a 0.04% chance is what the numbers work out
This is Car & Driver. They'd never report on parts breaking in a Toyota. They've been pushing the hype about Toyotas supposedly being indestructible for so long that they wouldn't want to have egg on their face even if they did run into problems.
@@Hazdazosnot really. They did a long term test on a black wing with engine failure and were completely transparent.
@gtrance3567 What does the Blackwing have to do with Toyota?!? They are more than willing to sandbag any American brands.
The era of a truck being able to reach the 300,000 mile mark on its original engine is over.
Essentially when hauling cargo or a trailer - the 3.4L turbo V6 from the Lexus LS 500 sedan is having to do the work of 5.7L V8. It may have been a heavy lump of an engine, but the 5.7 3UR-FE V8 was designed from the start to be a truck engine with modest output for its displacement.
How much did toyota pay you for this?
Anytime a vehicle goes 14 years without an update that gives buyers an Internet heroes time to solidify their prejudice for any changes or deviations from the original formula.
Damn what a random video to see a Halo fan on 😂. But this is a very valid point, folks are way too forgiving of the old platform and got complacent over all of its shortcomings
Shut up Toyota dropped the ball in so many ways grow up dude , criticism is warranted for this heap of cash garbage
Sorry you can't afford one
This statement is correct on the fact toyota reliability comes from lack of changes and just continuous improvement. The new tundra is no different. By 2027 it will be ultra reliable 😂
Fan boys like paying today’s prices for 15 year old technology lol
Car and Driver… you need an actual videographer. Doing a dialogue in part shadow and part sun, then underexposed in the truck, too wide of a focal length, odd images and transitions. I would expect more from an established brand like yours. #needswork
Yeah, let's not talk about how Ram will spend half the time at the dealership for service, Ford will leave you broken down on the road, and GMC and Chevy, in high trim, are $90k. Don't forget all those trucks will lose 80% of their value after the first five years. Meanwhile, Toyota is as reliable as a truck can get, and the resale value isn't even a debate. I have my 2022 Tundra Platinum non-hybrid; I paid $61k brand new out the door. My only complaint with it is the pathetic fuel economy, especially for a V6, but at the end of the day, it's a truck.
Maybe you could move on from the silly talk? I run personal and fleet Ford and GM trucks and none of them have left me on the side of the road. My F series trucks are worked hard day in and day out and they're dead nuts reliable. Your lack of actual knowledge is frightening.......
Amen brother. You are a hundred percent right. I have two tundras and love the quality of these trucks 😊 .
You opted for the I-Force Max
I opted for the no turbo 2023 6 cylinder 4 runner that’ll last 300-500k miles 🎉
Good Luck to All ❤
That was actually made in Japan…. Japanese plants have a different work culture and ethic that leads to higher quality. Smart move
Sold my ‘14 4Runner with that “good old motor” a year ago because after 9 years 97k miles the crank casing was falling apart on the motor and they wanted $8k to fix it, I sold it to carmax and moved on! I wish u the best, I have a new tundra which is why I’m here, I’ve been lucky so far almost a year in, I hope ur motor is a better one than the one I had.
And it was there early for its 100k service and I did every service with the dealer! FYI
How much are companies getting paid not to talk about how terrible the quality of the New tundra is!? I mean compared to past generations where they could be argues as the best of the best, now have become easily the worst.
Great achievement without a engine change!
Disappointing hybrid system compared to my Powerboost f150.
You mean the leader in automotive recalls WORLD WIDE the past 3 years. Yep, a product to be proud of. Build FORD tough where quality is job 1 !
Because they sell the most vehicles out of any brand. Which makes sense as to why they have more recalls which they are pretty quick to fix for free. Not excusing quality control, but from 2 million vehicles sold, a few hundred or thousand recalls is nothing.
All have recalls. If Toyota sold as much, they'd have more recalls as well. This Tundra has been pretty bad and plagued with problems Toyota refuses to fix.
@@user-cp1te3sf7wstill rather have a ford
You do realize an apples to apples F150 to a Tundra platinum is only slightly higher on gas mileage and a hella a lot lower in tow capacity? Tundra 10990 to F150 7800.
@@user-ue2ut8sw5s Another idiot fan boy.
I get 22 mpg with my 2023 SR5 crew max cab and 6.5' bed.
So you spent an additional 4k on a windshield and tonneau install. Then you justify the terrible gas mileage comparing it to a 5 year old Ram pickup with a V8. I’m not sure what to make of this review.
Main bearing failures!!! Talk about that!!! Also many more failures!!! Three years and failures still keep happening!!@
Not worth $63k
They should have never ditched the 5.7L power plant. Granted the mpgs is terrible but they should’ve looked into squeezing mpgs out of it rather than trying to join the 6-cylinder turbo market.
New price 71, one owner used price 69😂
The hybrid was not put in for fuel economy. Hybrid system put more power in lower gears so it's not stressing the turbos. That equals longer life. Toyota did a lot to keeping turbos cold as possible. This isn't new technology for tundra was used in lexus thats known for reliability.
I go by facts which you dont🤣
It will get better with time, that's what Toyota does better than everyone else...
still need to call them out for issues with new vehicles to keep them on their toes or they will just morph into big 3.
Gaslighting is what Toyota does better than anyone else. Anytime their vehicles have problems or cheap build quality their cult followers immediately start inventing excuses. Brand loyalty is so weird.
@@Lq32332 I never owned a Toyota or a Japanese car. But I know that when they discover a flow, they will find a solution and keep improving their product with time, and that's what other manufacturers do as well.
@@Lq32332 It really is
Big mistake eliminating the V8! I will never buy a vehicle with a turbo!
Ok.
This needs a diesel engine
Sad to say they don't make an oil burner for this engine
Lost respect for this review when it was stated that the fake V8 engine noise could not be turned off. False information and makes me wonder how much other stuff they have wrong.
nothing said about the battery state..my prius was reaching 100k and warranty running out and the batteries were failing but Toyota said they werent failed bad enough to replace..down the road it went no more hybrids until solid state batteries beware buying hybrids read the warranties people closely
Did you get any quotes on replacing the battery because I’ve heard with older Prius there’s a lot of independent shops that literally charge very little
10 years or 150k miles which ever comes first on the hybrid 🔋 battery warranty.
Toyota Tundra ,sure takes 1st place of having the ugliest front end on any pickup truck, known to mankind...just playing the ukulele.
The fuel economy thing is entirely on your driving habits…. Don’t go over the speed limit and you will get way more than 20 mpg.
TOYOTA YOUR CHECK CLEARED THE BANK NO MENTION OF THE 4 RECALLS AND BLOWN ENGINE AT 13K MILES ON MINE.THANKS CAR&DRIVER FOR NOT EVEN MENTIONING THAT YOUR SO UNBIASED!!!!!!!!!LMFAO
I'm hearing some major shilling lol