When Zverev spoke about his match with Sinner I felt I'm listening to Roddick speaking about his matches with Federer. It felt like no matter what you do, you will almost always lose the match.
@@ellenday2155 I think he said in his post match interview that in slower conditions he really struggles to attack Sinner at all. Demin can't generate enough power to consistently drive him off the baseline so he just sends up playing the same point again and again. Reminds me of when Andy used to play Federer. Roger gets the ball onto Andy's backhand, Andy goes crosscourt, Roger drops slice short/spins it wide, Andy approaches or has or hit a backhand up the line. Roger passes or hits a winner into the open court.
@stearrow_3245 Demons strength is his speed/returning. He can beat most players just running around like that, but Sinner matches him in that and is much taller/hits harder, so he's basically an impossible match up. Ditto Djokovic for now. Dont know about his record vs Carlos but seems he could actually be a little less helpless against him.
I swear Andy you and Johnny Mac are two of the best analysts of the technical and tactical nuances of tennis. Coach or commentator I would love to see it.
Yeah. Hearing Andy and someone like JM as well (I agree) break stuff down just makes you understand how smart, intellectually, all the players are and have to be to have reached the top. But what sets some of them apart is their capability as pure communicators, where yes, Andy and JM are further talented.
John McEnroe?!? Literally the worst commentator and analyst out there. All his remarks are bleeding obvious, has never heard of players outside top 20. You need to watch more tennis, my gosh
Andy has by far THE BEST analysis of Zverev’s game against Sinner - comes from a place of having been there & depth of tactical awareness. unlike some others analysts, who did not play at this level.
Speaking as a tennis player, Zverev and the others in the 90s gen are skilled enough to deserve and earn majors. Speaking as a tennis fan though, it would be pretty funny if the 90s gen that the media has been hyping up for years ended up with no more slams.
The lost generation should have at least 7 slams. Rublev, theim, Alex, Daniel, stefanos. All of them never change up their approach. Carlos had to come and dethrone Novak in slams Alex could have easily won a slam with fixing is serve 4 years ago. He would double fault 14-16 times a match. You can’t win a slam doing that. Now that he fixed the serve it’s a mental game now. If I was Alex I would have went to Boris or Andre and have a week to go over mental aspects of the game. Watch film with them
It is an easy comparison to use between Zverev and Andy Murray pre winning a slam. One could say that if you knock on the door enough times, eventually the door opens. But I dont see it that simple for Zverev. For one, Murray was a great grass court player (grass being the surface most players are not comfortable on), and Zverev is not. Two, Zverev is very good on clay, but not only is he up against Alcaraz and Sinner who are probably better, but the depth of players good on clay is deep. So third leaves hard courts. I think he can win at Oz or U.S, but he will need everything to fall into place for it to happen.
When you get passed 10/12 times at the net, you certainly should re-evaluate your approach. And also - most approaches to the net, that Zverev made were not that bad approaches. Yet Jannik passed him almost every time.
His brother Mischa was a legit serve and volleyer. I saw him challengers in California and I had the speed radar gun set up at tournament and he would serve 70s and come in and volley. Nobody was hitting winners consistently. I don’t think he missed an overhead the entire tournament. By the way James Blake was at same Challenger in Sacramento. Fun times!
A point that I feel was not mentioned here at all is that he really needs to improve his volley. There were many situations where he was in a good position to win the point but ends up losing it, because he hit a mediocre volley. Against the top guys those points are going to make the difference
Zverev should not give up. Keep playing your best and you could very well break through. There may be a day a Sinner or Alcaraz for example are not having their best day. Maybe the draw opens up and you are not playing somebody in the top 5 in the final. He could also be in the "zone" one day and it does not matter who he is playing. Other players have lost Grand Slam finals in the beginning and came back to win one.
I'm surprised that Zverev pouted so much during the match. This was supposed to be the new and improved Zverev. He has the talent to win a Major but, like Kyrgios, there's something wrong between the ears.
Andy I posted this under another video of the match, I am curious what your thoughts are. So in the tiebreak 1 all, 2 all, and 3-2 are good examples of what follows. I don't believe Zverev lost that match completely from being outplayed, (although he was)at least the forehand not being the actual difference maker. The placement on the attack looked to me like the bigger issue. I thought he actually got to attack quite often and was just making a lot of bad decisions versus sinner specifically. He was opening up the court and looking for angles at the wrong moments. When he was pressuring, he was attacking into the corners. We know Sinner on the run is just ridiculous and he proved that by neutralizing practically everything. However, Zverev would try to continue back into another corner almost every time. So he was missing that next next hard angle or he would play a safer shot/or just not a great fh in a bad place. He needed to run him, and then hit hard to the middle once sinner was back (at least enough as a mix-up, 35-40% of the time?). He actually starts doing this halfway into the second set, and then sporadically in the third and it paid off. (he was in a sense not playing well for his shot shape like you talk about a lot) I think he either figured this out or heard it from his coach. He got way more approach shots when he was using this pattern. THEN, the problem became he did the exact same thing on the approach, playing too much into a corner. At one point James Blake even said, "I just don't think its the right move going in against a swinging forehand. If you give a player something to run at and trying to volley...". Just let him try to take a crack at a groundstroke from the T. I think that pattern only happened a couple times in the whole match(Sinner did hit a nasty cross court pass off it once). It's like he became aware of the first point about the baseline game, but just didn't follow it through well enough to see the effect. The let chord in the tie breaker honestly might have been the worst timed, most unlucky final point in recent history. If he had squeaked out that set, he might have had the confidence to have figured this stuff out before the match ended. But yeah, not a pro player here, so I understand I may be completely wrong, I didn't see that quite as negatively as you both did. If there is one shot I think Zverev could add its the defensive forehand in the corner. He just couldn't seem to hit it hard and keep it deep, or, spin it with good placement. If he could a little deeper with good placement, I think he's incredible at defending and would have had opportunities to close the court again (better than sinner because of his shot shape). It would have let him stay in a couple more crucial points. I believe he's on his way to a much better performance in the rematch.
Zverev's only chance is RG where his style suits the most. Only if he changes his forehand technique he will have a shot at the hard courts. We should all look at how different Djokovic's forehand is in 2010 then now. Also Fonseca is coming, window will be soon be closed.
If the idea is that Zverev could win in 2/3 set matches, but can't in longer ones 3/5 set matches due to a larger sample size, then the obvious solution to this is to shrink the 3/5 set matches. I don't know that serve and volleying is necessarily the answer since he is capable of holding his serve, although maybe mixing that up a bit a more might make the Sinner and Alcaraz not be able to get into a flow. What he needs to do is simply go balls out when he's returning. He needs to play (2) different games styles. He can play his consistent and safe tennis during his serve as long as he's holding it, and when he's returning he just needs to go for it within then first 2/3 balls no if or buts. He's already losing as it is against these guys anyways so who care if he loses this way if he was going to lose regardless. At least this way he went for it. The only other option that I can think off is that instead of hitting the forehand harder, he needs to hit much much deeper.
Yes, I agree with everything! Everyone who says Zverev needed to go out to the net more, is obviously disregarding the fact that most of Zverev approaches to the net were actually decent and he lost 10/12 points there. Going to the net was not the answer, and it seems like it never will be.
You can't talk about his mental game without bringing that up his conviction for battering a woman in Germany. It's shameful to just avoid the topic and wonder about his mind in the abstract. He was a few seconds of strangulation away from being locked up in prison. Winning a slam will not be a redemption story for me but a perversion. Seeing him cry tears of joy while his weird dad hugs him will see like some kind of catharsis but it'll just bury the person he really is.
No he doesn’t, too much scar tissue & he’s not as good as he once was & now Alcaraz & Sinner are simply better than he is, let alone worlds ahead mentally
Disagree love Alcaraz and Sinner but there will be slams where they won’t be physically 100% or mentally 100% we saw it with the big 3 EX 2014 US Open. Zverev gets it done at the French or the US open this year or next book it!
@@rishidandu8027yeah that just wishful bull right there. He’s been in only 3 finals, on of which he got lucky due to Novak withdrawing. He doesn’t have what it takes and never will
I hope he does. Things have to fall right for him, get a good draw and hope Sinner gets knocked out somehow. There's alot of other good players as well. Definitely won't be easy but he certainly has a shot.
@KOSlice1560 Pundits and ATP skirting over the elephant in the room, Zverev paying off women before possible trial regarding domestic abuse allegations
@@atmosphericfloatything2472 I mean Andy Roddick and other tennis figures have to maintain a professional attitude toward the situation. Someone like Andy Roddick can’t just go around saying that Zverev abused women because they’d be liable for defamation at that point. I’d like for the community to be able to discuss the situation more, but outside of an ATP suspension or another lawsuit, there’s really nothing more to do or say.
Zverev and Medvedev are the only two players in the top 20 who, on an attackable ball, do not move around it to play a forehand. 1. They have a perfect backhand, so they don’t need to. 2. Their forehand motion is too wide, making it difficult to take the ball early. No matter how perfect a backhand is, its trajectories and speed are structurally different from a forehand. If they don’t improve this shot, I see a tough time ahead against Alcaraz and Sinner. Alcaraz, but especially Sinner, has improved a lot they need to improve as well.
Basically agree with Andy that each player has a tool set and they can't suddenly become a different player and do things that they are'nt the best at. Zverev does need time to wind up his shots and in practice why not try to move up to the ball a little more but in a big match think you gotta go with whta you're most comfortable with. For me Zverev is an amazing cross court hitter off both wings but is less good than a djokovic at changing directions. Therefore I think he should stick to his cross court patterns and wait for the easier ball to change direction. If he's not getting that easier ball then he should just do what he's omfortable with even bigger. Hit the forehand and backhand cross court bigger and ask sinner the question "can you change direction when I'm hitting my shots that big and that deep. I thought in the final particularly off the forehand zverev had decided he had to hit the forehand down the line or in to out tpo make progress in the rally and judt think he was wrong on that. All he got for that decision was hitting a ton of unforced errors.
Andy was pretty suicidal with his net rushes. It just wasn't his natural game, but I do see his point in that it mixes things up. How different would history be had he made that high backhand volley against Federer in Wimbledon 2009 second set tiebreak?
I think that's why Zverev was so upset when he lost this time. He maybe thought after Fed, then Rafa and Novak started leaving & not winning all the time that he was in with a chance at last but then Sinner & Alcaraz arrived. Sinner has changed a lot about his game in the last 2 years. He has better footwork than Zverev for starters. He has a better serve and he's consistent. He also plays a better chess game on court - looking for the gaps, always one step ahead. Zverev could achieve all of the above. Much as he loves his dad, he should think of having an exra coach for a while - new ideas.
Is the entire tennis world going to ignore his anger issues and the fact that TWO women came forward with abuse allegations? He agreed to pay the German government a quarter of a million dollars in fines because of one of the cases that went to court. Shame on tennis for sweeping this under the rug.
Yes, it’s been ignored. We’re not going to stop supporting someone because some allegations came out about them. Disappointed? Of course. But still supporting him and hoping for success. Mistakes made by someone is no reason to wish for failure.
Zverev has NOT been found criminally or civilly responsible for his actions. There's been a 15-month investigation by the ATP in which they found no evidence about. Zverev did not pay anything to her, and around 450,000 Euros fine of Zverev (before the trial) was revoked. What happened to innocent before guilty...
More players need to go back to playing more all court. Vary shots more, go forward and serve and volley every few points, mix it up and keep them guessing. Sasha ain't beating Jannik at a baseline slog unless the latter is really off.
Aren't we missing the point here? 2020 he had literally everything go his way... Got 2 sets up in the final, wasn't even in front of an audience and he still choked. Choker!
He based his game all these years from back of the court shooting from both sides and a war of attrition and taking away legs of the opposition. Always likes playing 5 setters, and long matches. No variation. Not going to work as soon he will be older and will even loose those legs which Meddy seems to have lost these days. And, Meddy's bread-n-butter was also grinding all day long ala Simon his coach.
I would say even Novak at times used to deploy same tactics from back of the court and would tire Federer all day, who then start making mistakes. But Novak changed that after getting older.
It's all psychology really at this level. That's the secret and there isn't an easy answer because it's a very personal thing and finding the key to u lock his psychology.
(Just so you know Im not hating - I have been a fan of him since the beginning. Hell, I have been a fan of his brother Mischa playing challengers in the US. I always wanted Zverev to win a GS and thought he was the next person to get one before Wawrinka, Cilic). Bottom line is that Zverev doesn’t have the mental game to win. We can’t quantify mental game which is separate than IQ, EQ and even tennis IQ. Zverev is maxed out for his potential. That is great that he has maxed out even though he has no Slams…Many players have not maxed their potential physically, mentally and emotionally which is even worse. Older players before him, during his generation and even the next gen are not afraid of him.
I can see him winning one, but most likely it will involve Sinner, Djokovic, or Alcaraz (more more than one of them) out of that tournament. He's just 27, but then again, he's 27 and hasn't won one yet. But Keys got one. Wawrinka won 3 in the era of the 3 greatest ever and Murray.
Stanimal is a God. He beat down prime Novak twice in the biggest settings. Apologize 4 even mentioning Stan's name in a comparison with that German who wears 2 many necklaces.
If Sinner gets suspended he has a decent chance. However, if Sinner beats trial and Zverev has to contend with both Sinner and Alcaraz, his chances are less than 10%. The best of 5 format does him zero favors. He isn’t a better player than either and certainly the longer the match goes the less favorable his chances are.
Zverev needs other people to regulate him. On the court, he can't do that. The predictability of his game is a game he learned in early childhood and adolescence. Owing to his dysfunctional personality organization, he is not coachable. He can't introject new coaching to improve his game. On the court he's incapable of adjusting because he's still a little boy needing parents to tell him what to do. He has been over parentified. It is sad when this happens to tennis players.
There will always be at least two players substantially better than Zverev. He’s a good player with a great serve. It’s not enough at the summit of the game. Nor should it be.
I mean if you have a fairly confident that you will struggle to win against a certain player then maybe you should Judy do something different. Because if you do the same thing you can't be surprised when you get the same results
The way Zverev and Medvedev play is fast becoming an old skool format in my view. You need more versatility; being a good rallier doesn't cut it in the way the game has been shaping up since Alcaraz, in particular, broke through. Same reason guys like Ruud and Rublev will never win a GS
Zverev needs a different coach. I am never a fan of parents coaching their child (except Brian and Ben Shelton). I think he needs a coach who thinks differently and can when needed be as critical as needed. I do not think he is getting what he needs, coaching-wise.
Kim is lovely but she really needs to frame, structure and develop her thoughts when she talks for a protracted period of time and bring home her point (like andy), instead of hopping from one fragment to the next. Alternatively, just make a concise point and stop.
Zverev lacks the self belief to win a slam.. Look at the way he speaks about himself.. Would Rafa, Roger or Novak do that?? Not a chance. He's already defeating himself before stepping out on the court.
No, he does not - unless luck is truly a lady to him and a number of events happen to make it possible. He can not beat Sinner or Alcaraz, has a loosing record again Djokovic, particularly in grand slams, and will likely be beaten by one of the "young guns" ( during meany of the upcoming majors.
Zverev is too vanilla and has no net game.. stands too far back as kim said and keeps standing further back preventing from truly controlling the points
He needs to get a new coaching team. Move away from his family being the main coaching staff. Then he needs to get counselling not for tennis but for his personal issues. He is better than Sinner and Carlos but until he fixes these issues he will be stuck and not win as many Grand Slams as he should.
You can tell Andy loves this podcast and so do we.
When Zverev spoke about his match with Sinner I felt I'm listening to Roddick speaking about his matches with Federer. It felt like no matter what you do, you will almost always lose the match.
I got that vibe from Demin after he played Sinner.
@@stearrow_3245 True!
@@stearrow_3245 I feel so sad for Demon. Just nothing he does seems to trouble Sinner.
@@ellenday2155 I think he said in his post match interview that in slower conditions he really struggles to attack Sinner at all. Demin can't generate enough power to consistently drive him off the baseline so he just sends up playing the same point again and again.
Reminds me of when Andy used to play Federer. Roger gets the ball onto Andy's backhand, Andy goes crosscourt, Roger drops slice short/spins it wide, Andy approaches or has or hit a backhand up the line. Roger passes or hits a winner into the open court.
@stearrow_3245 Demons strength is his speed/returning. He can beat most players just running around like that, but Sinner matches him in that and is much taller/hits harder, so he's basically an impossible match up. Ditto Djokovic for now. Dont know about his record vs Carlos but seems he could actually be a little less helpless against him.
I swear Andy you and Johnny Mac are two of the best analysts of the technical and tactical nuances of tennis. Coach or commentator I would love to see it.
Yeah. Hearing Andy and someone like JM as well (I agree) break stuff down just makes you understand how smart, intellectually, all the players are and have to be to have reached the top. But what sets some of them apart is their capability as pure communicators, where yes, Andy and JM are further talented.
John McEnroe?!?
Literally the worst commentator and analyst out there. All his remarks are bleeding obvious, has never heard of players outside top 20.
You need to watch more tennis, my gosh
@ strong opinions loosely held😝
Zverev just needs to be there, giving it his all, trying. Pretty simple, don’t change a thing, don’t give up.
Andy has by far THE BEST analysis of Zverev’s game against Sinner - comes from a place of having been there & depth of tactical awareness. unlike some others analysts, who did not play at this level.
Speaking as a tennis player, Zverev and the others in the 90s gen are skilled enough to deserve and earn majors.
Speaking as a tennis fan though, it would be pretty funny if the 90s gen that the media has been hyping up for years ended up with no more slams.
He just needs to imagine Sinner is his ex, then he'll beat Jannik with ease.
Love your analysis. Helps me understand that the tennis circuit is a career not just a win lose proposition.
The lost generation should have at least 7 slams. Rublev, theim, Alex, Daniel, stefanos. All of them never change up their approach. Carlos had to come and dethrone Novak in slams
Alex could have easily won a slam with fixing is serve 4 years ago. He would double fault 14-16 times a match. You can’t win a slam doing that. Now that he fixed the serve it’s a mental game now. If I was Alex I would have went to Boris or Andre and have a week to go over mental aspects of the game. Watch film with them
Thiem won a slam but then had wrist issues, he was my pick at the time to become the next world n.1
It is an easy comparison to use between Zverev and Andy Murray pre winning a slam. One could say that if you knock on the door enough times, eventually the door opens.
But I dont see it that simple for Zverev.
For one, Murray was a great grass court player (grass being the surface most players are not comfortable on), and Zverev is not.
Two, Zverev is very good on clay, but not only is he up against Alcaraz and Sinner who are probably better, but the depth of players good on clay is deep.
So third leaves hard courts. I think he can win at Oz or U.S, but he will need everything to fall into place for it to happen.
Wasn’t Zverev’s brother almost exclusively serve-and-volley? And he’s almost allergic to the net.
Yep Mischa was one of the last pure serve and volleyers.
When you get passed 10/12 times at the net, you certainly should re-evaluate your approach. And also - most approaches to the net, that Zverev made were not that bad approaches. Yet Jannik passed him almost every time.
His brother Mischa was a legit serve and volleyer. I saw him challengers in California and I had the speed radar gun set up at tournament and he would serve 70s and come in and volley. Nobody was hitting winners consistently. I don’t think he missed an overhead the entire tournament. By the way James Blake was at same Challenger in Sacramento. Fun times!
A point that I feel was not mentioned here at all is that he really needs to improve his volley. There were many situations where he was in a good position to win the point but ends up losing it, because he hit a mediocre volley. Against the top guys those points are going to make the difference
Zverev should not give up. Keep playing your best and you could very well break through. There may be a day a Sinner or Alcaraz for example are not having their best day. Maybe the draw opens up and you are not playing somebody in the top 5 in the final. He could also be in the "zone" one day and it does not matter who he is playing. Other players have lost Grand Slam finals in the beginning and came back to win one.
I'm surprised that Zverev pouted so much during the match. This was supposed to be the new and improved Zverev. He has the talent to win a Major but, like Kyrgios, there's something wrong between the ears.
Not talented enough to be number 1 tho
Andy I posted this under another video of the match, I am curious what your thoughts are.
So in the tiebreak 1 all, 2 all, and 3-2 are good examples of what follows.
I don't believe Zverev lost that match completely from being outplayed, (although he was)at least the forehand not being the actual difference maker. The placement on the attack looked to me like the bigger issue. I thought he actually got to attack quite often and was just making a lot of bad decisions versus sinner specifically. He was opening up the court and looking for angles at the wrong moments. When he was pressuring, he was attacking into the corners. We know Sinner on the run is just ridiculous and he proved that by neutralizing practically everything. However, Zverev would try to continue back into another corner almost every time. So he was missing that next next hard angle or he would play a safer shot/or just not a great fh in a bad place. He needed to run him, and then hit hard to the middle once sinner was back (at least enough as a mix-up, 35-40% of the time?). He actually starts doing this halfway into the second set, and then sporadically in the third and it paid off. (he was in a sense not playing well for his shot shape like you talk about a lot)
I think he either figured this out or heard it from his coach. He got way more approach shots when he was using this pattern. THEN, the problem became he did the exact same thing on the approach, playing too much into a corner. At one point James Blake even said, "I just don't think its the right move going in against a swinging forehand. If you give a player something to run at and trying to volley...". Just let him try to take a crack at a groundstroke from the T. I think that pattern only happened a couple times in the whole match(Sinner did hit a nasty cross court pass off it once). It's like he became aware of the first point about the baseline game, but just didn't follow it through well enough to see the effect. The let chord in the tie breaker honestly might have been the worst timed, most unlucky final point in recent history. If he had squeaked out that set, he might have had the confidence to have figured this stuff out before the match ended.
But yeah, not a pro player here, so I understand I may be completely wrong, I didn't see that quite as negatively as you both did. If there is one shot I think Zverev could add its the defensive forehand in the corner. He just couldn't seem to hit it hard and keep it deep, or, spin it with good placement. If he could a little deeper with good placement, I think he's incredible at defending and would have had opportunities to close the court again (better than sinner because of his shot shape). It would have let him stay in a couple more crucial points. I believe he's on his way to a much better performance in the rematch.
Hope the beater never wins a GS!!!
French! But he needs to do it soon before Carlos go all Rafa on everyone and Jannik figures it out and Jaoa turns 23-24😅
Zverev's only chance is RG where his style suits the most. Only if he changes his forehand technique he will have a shot at the hard courts. We should all look at how different Djokovic's forehand is in 2010 then now. Also Fonseca is coming, window will be soon be closed.
Totally agree with Andy&kim always love this podcast.Brilliant analysis😊
Serve and volley off his serves is a no-brainer .
Brilliant analysis, Andy. Lots of analysts suggesting for him just to be more aggressive, as if he had never thought about it 😂
If the idea is that Zverev could win in 2/3 set matches, but can't in longer ones 3/5 set matches due to a larger sample size, then the obvious solution to this is to shrink the 3/5 set matches.
I don't know that serve and volleying is necessarily the answer since he is capable of holding his serve, although maybe mixing that up a bit a more might make the Sinner and Alcaraz not be able to get into a flow. What he needs to do is simply go balls out when he's returning. He needs to play (2) different games styles. He can play his consistent and safe tennis during his serve as long as he's holding it, and when he's returning he just needs to go for it within then first 2/3 balls no if or buts.
He's already losing as it is against these guys anyways so who care if he loses this way if he was going to lose regardless. At least this way he went for it.
The only other option that I can think off is that instead of hitting the forehand harder, he needs to hit much much deeper.
Yes, I agree with everything! Everyone who says Zverev needed to go out to the net more, is obviously disregarding the fact that most of Zverev approaches to the net were actually decent and he lost 10/12 points there. Going to the net was not the answer, and it seems like it never will be.
You can't talk about his mental game without bringing that up his conviction for battering a woman in Germany. It's shameful to just avoid the topic and wonder about his mind in the abstract. He was a few seconds of strangulation away from being locked up in prison. Winning a slam will not be a redemption story for me but a perversion. Seeing him cry tears of joy while his weird dad hugs him will see like some kind of catharsis but it'll just bury the person he really is.
You are completely wrong about the facts.
Thiem was so blessed to win that slam in 2020 not having to go through Fed, Rafa or Novak. Zverev will need a similar lucky draw to win a slam
Maybe Zverev can do it !
No he doesn’t, too much scar tissue & he’s not as good as he once was & now Alcaraz & Sinner are simply better than he is, let alone worlds ahead mentally
Disagree love Alcaraz and Sinner but there will be slams where they won’t be physically 100% or mentally 100% we saw it with the big 3 EX 2014 US Open. Zverev gets it done at the French or the US open this year or next book it!
@ when they aren’t in the way, he’ll lose to a guy like Fritz like he has done last year
@@rishidandu8027yeah that just wishful bull right there. He’s been in only 3 finals, on of which he got lucky due to Novak withdrawing. He doesn’t have what it takes and never will
I hope he does. Things have to fall right for him, get a good draw and hope Sinner gets knocked out somehow. There's alot of other good players as well. Definitely won't be easy but he certainly has a shot.
So to win a Slam is the Brass Ring for most players!
This apathy towards Zverev's personal issues is bordering on insanity
Wdym?
@KOSlice1560 Pundits and ATP skirting over the elephant in the room, Zverev paying off women before possible trial regarding domestic abuse allegations
@@atmosphericfloatything2472 I mean Andy Roddick and other tennis figures have to maintain a professional attitude toward the situation. Someone like Andy Roddick can’t just go around saying that Zverev abused women because they’d be liable for defamation at that point. I’d like for the community to be able to discuss the situation more, but outside of an ATP suspension or another lawsuit, there’s really nothing more to do or say.
@@KOSlice1560 He doesn't need to speak about this but he can choose to not talk about him at all.
@@KOSlice1560 It's not defamation if it's true. I 100% think he's guilty, but I don't like to see him get kicked to death constantly over it
He's #2 in the 🌎 and has won everything except a slam. So I'd say yes but like everyone, time isn't on his side
If Sinner gets banned, Alcaraz is off and Djoko is injured.
Zverev and Medvedev are the only two players in the top 20 who, on an attackable ball, do not move around it to play a forehand.
1. They have a perfect backhand, so they don’t need to.
2. Their forehand motion is too wide, making it difficult to take the ball early.
No matter how perfect a backhand is, its trajectories and speed are structurally different from a forehand. If they don’t improve this shot, I see a tough time ahead against Alcaraz and Sinner.
Alcaraz, but especially Sinner, has improved a lot they need to improve as well.
Alcaraz and Sinner both gave forehands which are absolute weapons. If Zverev wants to compete, he needs his to be one too
If he can get to a slam vs say Paul, Rudd, Fritz or Tiafoe type but even then there is no guarantee
Basically agree with Andy that each player has a tool set and they can't suddenly become a different player and do things that they are'nt the best at. Zverev does need time to wind up his shots and in practice why not try to move up to the ball a little more but in a big match think you gotta go with whta you're most comfortable with. For me Zverev is an amazing cross court hitter off both wings but is less good than a djokovic at changing directions. Therefore I think he should stick to his cross court patterns and wait for the easier ball to change direction. If he's not getting that easier ball then he should just do what he's omfortable with even bigger. Hit the forehand and backhand cross court bigger and ask sinner the question "can you change direction when I'm hitting my shots that big and that deep. I thought in the final particularly off the forehand zverev had decided he had to hit the forehand down the line or in to out tpo make progress in the rally and judt think he was wrong on that. All he got for that decision was hitting a ton of unforced errors.
Andy was pretty suicidal with his net rushes. It just wasn't his natural game, but I do see his point in that it mixes things up. How different would history be had he made that high backhand volley against Federer in Wimbledon 2009 second set tiebreak?
I think that's why Zverev was so upset when he lost this time.
He maybe thought after Fed, then Rafa and Novak started leaving & not winning all the time that he was in with a chance at last but then Sinner & Alcaraz arrived.
Sinner has changed a lot about his game in the last 2 years.
He has better footwork than Zverev for starters. He has a better serve and he's consistent.
He also plays a better chess game on court - looking for the gaps, always one step ahead.
Zverev could achieve all of the above.
Much as he loves his dad, he should think of having an exra coach for a while - new ideas.
Is the entire tennis world going to ignore his anger issues and the fact that TWO women came forward with abuse allegations? He agreed to pay the German government a quarter of a million dollars in fines because of one of the cases that went to court. Shame on tennis for sweeping this under the rug.
Yes, it’s been ignored. We’re not going to stop supporting someone because some allegations came out about them. Disappointed? Of course. But still supporting him and hoping for success. Mistakes made by someone is no reason to wish for failure.
@@zacharyedwards8853 You are so far off your rocker that you think it's acceptable to support an abuser.
Zverev has NOT been found criminally or civilly responsible for his actions.
There's been a 15-month investigation by the ATP in which they found no evidence about.
Zverev did not pay anything to her, and around 450,000 Euros fine of Zverev (before the trial) was revoked.
What happened to innocent before guilty...
And from your previous comments, you seem to have a biased view on DV *accusations*
@@zacharyedwards8853
Don't listen to him. He's shedding misinformation online
More players need to go back to playing more all court. Vary shots more, go forward and serve and volley every few points, mix it up and keep them guessing. Sasha ain't beating Jannik at a baseline slog unless the latter is really off.
Aren't we missing the point here? 2020 he had literally everything go his way... Got 2 sets up in the final, wasn't even in front of an audience and he still choked.
Choker!
He based his game all these years from back of the court shooting from both sides and a war of attrition and taking away legs of the opposition. Always likes playing 5 setters, and long matches. No variation. Not going to work as soon he will be older and will even loose those legs which Meddy seems to have lost these days. And, Meddy's bread-n-butter was also grinding all day long ala Simon his coach.
I would say even Novak at times used to deploy same tactics from back of the court and would tire Federer all day, who then start making mistakes. But Novak changed that after getting older.
It's all psychology really at this level. That's the secret and there isn't an easy answer because it's a very personal thing and finding the key to u lock his psychology.
(Just so you know Im not hating - I have been a fan of him since the beginning. Hell, I have been a fan of his brother Mischa playing challengers in the US. I always wanted Zverev to win a GS and thought he was the next person to get one before Wawrinka, Cilic). Bottom line is that Zverev doesn’t have the mental game to win. We can’t quantify mental game which is separate than IQ, EQ and even tennis IQ. Zverev is maxed out for his potential. That is great that he has maxed out even though he has no Slams…Many players have not maxed their potential physically, mentally and emotionally which is even worse. Older players before him, during his generation and even the next gen are not afraid of him.
I can see him winning one, but most likely it will involve Sinner, Djokovic, or Alcaraz (more more than one of them) out of that tournament. He's just 27, but then again, he's 27 and hasn't won one yet. But Keys got one. Wawrinka won 3 in the era of the 3 greatest ever and Murray.
Stanimal is a God. He beat down prime Novak twice in the biggest settings. Apologize 4 even mentioning Stan's name in a comparison with that German who wears 2 many necklaces.
I honestly don’t think he will at this point. If Sinner gets banned it will increase his chances though.
How many did lendl lose before he won?
Lendl lost 4 straight slam finals before winning 8. And so Zverev has definitely chance to win a slam or more as he is only 27.
Yes he does.
Ivanisevic did it. Zverev can do it
Zverev is the Choke Goat
If Sinner gets suspended he has a decent chance. However, if Sinner beats trial and Zverev has to contend with both Sinner and Alcaraz, his chances are less than 10%. The best of 5 format does him zero favors. He isn’t a better player than either and certainly the longer the match goes the less favorable his chances are.
Zverev needs therapy to improve himself not his game.
Zverev needs other people to regulate him. On the court, he can't do that. The predictability of his game is a game he learned in early childhood and adolescence. Owing to his dysfunctional personality organization, he is not coachable. He can't introject new coaching to improve his game. On the court he's incapable of adjusting because he's still a little boy needing parents to tell him what to do. He has been over parentified. It is sad when this happens to tennis players.
Zverev just needs to pray that he won’t face alcaraz and sinner in the finals of gs. Then he will have a real chance..
How many did Andy Murray lose before he actually won?
There will always be at least two players substantially better than Zverev. He’s a good player with a great serve. It’s not enough at the summit of the game. Nor should it be.
I mean if you have a fairly confident that you will struggle to win against a certain player then maybe you should Judy do something different. Because if you do the same thing you can't be surprised when you get the same results
No !
Zverev definitely does have a slam in his future. But he desperately needs a sports psychologist first.
He should hire Sinner's old team, especially the physio.
The way Zverev and Medvedev play is fast becoming an old skool format in my view. You need more versatility; being a good rallier doesn't cut it in the way the game has been shaping up since Alcaraz, in particular, broke through.
Same reason guys like Ruud and Rublev will never win a GS
Zverv needs somebody else to beat Sinner, just dunno who.
He will win if he doesn't have to face Sinner or Alcarez
He leads both Sinner and Alcaraz in H2H 😂😂
He falls backwards on his forehand
Zverev needs a different coach. I am never a fan of parents coaching their child (except Brian and Ben Shelton). I think he needs a coach who thinks differently and can when needed be as critical as needed. I do not think he is getting what he needs, coaching-wise.
He'll never win a Grand Slam, which is all four majors. But he may well win a major title.
Kim is lovely but she really needs to frame, structure and develop her thoughts when she talks for a protracted period of time and bring home her point (like andy), instead of hopping from one fragment to the next. Alternatively, just make a concise point and stop.
He stuck with he’s not good enough to beat the top two and there are young guys that are gonna Improve
No
To win a slam, Zverev needs the draw to open up for him. I don't see him beating the big two.
He has beat Alcaraz two times at slams. Sinner never seems to drop his level that low though.
Zverev lacks the self belief to win a slam.. Look at the way he speaks about himself.. Would Rafa, Roger or Novak do that?? Not a chance. He's already defeating himself before stepping out on the court.
No, he does not - unless luck is truly a lady to him and a number of events happen to make it possible. He can not beat Sinner or Alcaraz, has a loosing record again Djokovic, particularly in grand slams, and will likely be beaten by one of the "young guns" ( during meany of the upcoming majors.
Zverev is too vanilla and has no net game.. stands too far back as kim said and keeps standing further back preventing from truly controlling the points
He needs to get a new coaching team. Move away from his family being the main coaching staff. Then he needs to get counselling not for tennis but for his personal issues. He is better than Sinner and Carlos but until he fixes these issues he will be stuck and not win as many Grand Slams as he should.
How is Zverez better than Carlos and Sinner? Delusional..
@@timothylee2772 Ikr
Hope not. He’s done enough slamming for my tastes already.
Zverev is not best on any surface its unlikely to happen
Zverev can do it. Wimbledon or the US Open might be his best opportunities. He is an incredible talent.
Why Wimbledon?
Not Wimbledon he's volley isn't up to scratch
No!