Great presentation and logical thought processes (as usual from you) Note: Audient ID44 MkII is only $699 at our fav Sweetwater. It has FOUR independent artist cue mixes. 😮 And talk about Console preamps! 🎉 And it has dedicated balanced Insert points for using outboard gear on the preamps OR patching in your own BAE/Neve/WarmAudio channel strips 😃
Hey Colt, great video as always. I don't know man, I actually feel the Audient ID44mkii is the better buy here - just as powerful, great preamps, more adat I/O (enough outputs to run a minimum atmos rig). Honestly the only thing missing is the metering section on the MBOX and midi I/O. But its nearly half the price. Worth a thought
This is one of those interfaces that can easily get overlooked, or at least I may have overlooked. I've been caught up with the UAD stuff so much but this one is a great buy! If you compare the Mbox Studio to the Apollo Twin(both are fairly in the same price point) it shows that off hand out the box you get a bit more with this one. The Apollos just offer the unison technology to record thru virtual preamps. However, it's still more things to pay for when buying those preamps and plugins to work with the unison pres. Great video as always!
ID44 is significantly better than this box. Also, I don't think many gearheads will like the whole toyish/carnival look of this piece. I'm just saying....
@@burrellbrothersentertainme2281Exactly! I don't know who designs some of these pieces, but why would anyone want an expensive piece of hardware to look like a toy from the Carnival? Based on looks alone, I guarantee not many sales are being made in regards to this unit. AVID needs to hire a whole new team and get it together.
you really came in here and said "imma be a hater" lol there's stuff this does that audient does not and it's clear if you really knew both pieces of gear.
@@thesoundmajors9858 Maybe you're referring to the extra LED Meters, or that the Avid has a maximum sample rate of 192khz. I will admit that the additional analog outs are nice, but aesthetics of the gear is important to a lot of people, especially serious studio heads. I'm just saying, a piece that looks like a toy may not appeal to serious gear owners in many pro studio settings. I think the ID44 Sync I/O feature may appeal the a great number of users, which I believe the Avid does not have. The Audient also has a built in High Pass Filter, only achievable by Avid via software. The look of the gear matters to me, as well as a large population of other mature studio owners. I never said I hate the units' functionality... I said it looks like a toy... and it does. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this becomes a staple in professional studio settings. I don't think it will IMHO.
Dear Colt. Long time suscriber. I have AudioMedia III, Original Cyan M-Box, Digi 001 and 002. Aside an MIX ++ setup. DIgidesign was bad giving support for older interfaces once they develop another batch of newer interfaces. 2 years ago I tried RME and I cant go back. Now I have 3 RME interfaces for Protools. If Avid would be like RME and still support 20 years old interfaces I would go back with them. I really hope your interface to be still supported in 5 years. I guess you will end getting an Appollo from Upstair Studio A once you do the Atmos setup. I encorage you to embrace Dante to have connected Studio A and B for Tracking a band on both simultaneously. Thanks for your videos. Always inspiring.
Yepp, I agree. Never Avid again, I had a Digi002 with lots of RTA plugins, all useless. If Avid as a manufacturer screws up the clients for more money and create a lot of electronic waist for the environment then you totally suck as a company period. When a company like Neyerink needs to provide drivers to get the expensive Pro Control and C24 surfaces working and Avid as a producer doesn’t want to do it then I never spend a dime again even if they make the best of the best, which they don’t. My setup is RME with Reaper, companies that care about their end users and RME has up to date drivers for interfaces over 15 years old. 👊🏼
@@Studio22mix i am currently looking at the mbox studio because my RME ufx ii is super unreliable, the mic input to windows just stopped working and it sounds distorted at high sampling rates.
my RME was 2500 like 25 years ago .. 100 a year is cheap right lol .. re capped it myself last year.. total mix is great this has a mixer like it .. that mixer is the best thing to have
Hey Colt! great video again ! I really like how you review things and I bought this interface because of my old apogee element 24. The roundtrip of the avid mbox is higher but not a big deal at all I think. I ordered this interface at thomann from Germany. They give every person who ordered this interface a perpetual PT Studio with one year support. So I used every other DAW out there and everybody told me to not switch to pro tools but for me it feels right and I used the free version called intro I think and something happens inside myself when I start these DAW every time. I feel like coming home haha it's a lot of stuff to learn but at the end it's a phenomenal DAW and has a great community so far ! Thanks for your videos ! greetings Cryzor
4 mic pres are a good plus, but if I'm honest, once I get that close to $1.000 I'll just do RME. I've got a Babyface Pro FS as a portable bus powered unit (which I assume this isn't), and a Fireface UCX2, which has 6 analog outs and 8 analog ins, connected to a MOTU 8pre-es via adat AND sending AES digital to my main monitors (plus Auratones). The only thing that makes this avid box attractive is Pro Tools (which I don't care for).
Although I have the TL Audio Classic preamps and a Focusrite ISA One preamp I really like the preamps in the old AVID M Box Pro. It's much more superior to the other interfaces in the same category. I hope AVID would make a stripped down version of the M Box Studio that's more affordable than the original one.
I love the look of it, especially all of the I/O. I’m happy with my UAD interfaces but this looks great value for money. I remember the old Mbox from decades ago.
I have 2 independent headphone mixes on MiniFuse 4... 🤭 For what I do, there are enough inputs. Of course we talk about different levels of sound interfaces. Just saying that there are also cheaper interfaces that do independent headphones mixes, if that is all that matter to one. 😏
Arturia Audiofuse Studio. $899. It has all the same connectivity plus more, I would venture a guess to better preamps, one-for-one buttons, multiple HP mixes, built in reamp, and is a usb hub. Fairly extensive mix software but easy to understand and has a button on the interface to open said software.
It’s definitely Audiofuse vs MBOX for me. Both are loaded for the price. The usb hub is such a nice addition. But, one thing I read that might be a deal breaker is monitor outs are not balanced on the audiofuse. Without balanced trs going into my monitors I get noticeable noise (likely from my PC or my UPS). Also, if I purchase MBOX within the next few days, Avid will include a $600 perpetual license for Pro Tools Studio. Want.
Hey Colt, I have looked at the new Motu 828which even has a built in mixer along with a good cue mix app,please when you get a chance tell me what you think
I think "best" really comes down to what you need. The MBox is crazy, but I'n my case I only have one pair of monitors, rarely record more than one input at a time and NEED a clean, powerful headphone amp with low impedance to power my planars. After a ton of research, the Topping E2X2 was the only interface that fit the bill for me. The mic pres are extremely clean and the headphone amp is unmatched in any interface I've seen. It has multiple virtual outs with loopback, and it costs the same as other 2in2out interfaces like the Scarlett 2i2 or the Volt while absolutely blowing them out of the water in pretty much every category.
Hey Colt, how does it perform on Mac OS? And the round trip latency? Could you check the RTL in 44.100khz / 24bit/ 128 and 256 buffer size to show us the milliseconds?
The downside of it for me was that you’re not allowed to route directly from pro tools to the adat/digital outputs, you need to route them to the mbox control software and then to the adat BUT there’s only 8 outs so… that’s it, you can’t have those outputs and different analog outputs and so on… finally went to the Neumann mt48 and that’s a beast (goes beyond the $1000 tough)
I think that box is probably the next best option! Personally, I like the layout and function of this one a bit better, but that is definitely a capable box!
My Mackie Big Knob Series, 3x2 Studio Monitor Controller does all these but it started acting up after couple years of use. So I'm looking for an interface and monitor upgrade.
I feel kind of dumb to have to ask this but how is this a 21 input interface if it only has 2 mic inputs on the front and 2 on the back? I can't record a drum kit with more than 4 mics right? WTF am I missing?
Hi does anyone know if this Interface also is working on Windows 11? I need to get a new one since the Drivers for mine won't be updated anymore and neither Pro Tools oe Nuendo can find it anymore. Would be happy to get some opinions and thanks beforehand!
They always mention those high I/0 that are via ADAT 😂 Focusrite 18i8 3rd Gen does similar for less.. Including The 2 Headphones Out + The 4X Mic/Instrument in
Sold my UA with the old Thunderbolt and bought this MBOX. I am a "vet" and it is fabulous! Great mic pre's, a pretty unit. MBOX control makes it easy to get r done, unlike UA Console. DOPE!
I am not a fan of table top interfaces but i love the feat it has. Never heard of an interface that have a reamp box in it. Are there any interface alternatives in rack size that has that?
Colt... I know you run a Mac. Do you know how solid this is with a Windows PC? For example, some Thunderbolt interfaces flunk the Windows tests, despite the claims. And Windows latency? Will be using Studio One as the DAW. Your vids are quite helpful to rookies like me.
If you’re talking about windows, nowadays, one issue is usually is “Drivers” just check how solid it runs with drivers and that’s it. It’s usb c interface and not thunderbolt one
I couldnt connect to download the firmware my Win 10 desktop. I had to use my Win laptop 11 to flash the firmware but once that was done it worked fine with Win 10. The FX loops are a game changer as you can use these for guitars and synths and they work a treat.
I connect my speakers to it.. I have not tested it, but in my head I get better quality since I can stay digital and do not have to use the converters of the interface to go to my speakers
Lots of great boxes out there, this one is my favorite for both it’s form factor, and function. Thanks for watching!
Great presentation and logical thought processes (as usual from you)
Note: Audient ID44 MkII is only $699 at our fav Sweetwater.
It has FOUR independent artist cue mixes. 😮
And talk about Console preamps! 🎉
And it has dedicated balanced Insert points for using outboard gear on the preamps OR patching in your own BAE/Neve/WarmAudio channel strips 😃
In researching, for this set up, I looked at that one as well. Looks like a great option for the money!
@zackdarce You said it
@zackdarceThe converters aren't as good on the ID44.
The mbox studio is on sale right now for $599
Hey Colt, great video as always. I don't know man, I actually feel the Audient ID44mkii is the better buy here - just as powerful, great preamps, more adat I/O (enough outputs to run a minimum atmos rig). Honestly the only thing missing is the metering section on the MBOX and midi I/O. But its nearly half the price. Worth a thought
This looks fenomenal. Cool to see avid going in a more “modern” direction, similar to the RME and their TotalMix sofware, which I use and love ❤️
I would go for the Audient ID44 MkII. A couple more features for $100 less
Nah, this guy searched and found no other interfaces with the same features! /s
@@imdurc people don't like to listen lol
They sure don't! :P @@thesoundmajors9858
This is one of those interfaces that can easily get overlooked, or at least I may have overlooked. I've been caught up with the UAD stuff so much but this one is a great buy! If you compare the Mbox Studio to the Apollo Twin(both are fairly in the same price point) it shows that off hand out the box you get a bit more with this one. The Apollos just offer the unison technology to record thru virtual preamps. However, it's still more things to pay for when buying those preamps and plugins to work with the unison pres. Great video as always!
I feel the same way. 👍🏽
ID44 is significantly better than this box. Also, I don't think many gearheads will like the whole toyish/carnival look of this piece. I'm just saying....
I HATE.. when gear looks like “fun”… I like them ugly, heavy and serious… sleek is cool but all the bright cheerful kiddie colors… NO… HELL NO
@@burrellbrothersentertainme2281Exactly! I don't know who designs some of these pieces, but why would anyone want an expensive piece of hardware to look like a toy from the Carnival? Based on looks alone, I guarantee not many sales are being made in regards to this unit. AVID needs to hire a whole new team and get it together.
you really came in here and said "imma be a hater" lol there's stuff this does that audient does not and it's clear if you really knew both pieces of gear.
@@thesoundmajors9858 Maybe you're referring to the extra LED Meters, or that the Avid has a maximum sample rate of 192khz. I will admit that the additional analog outs are nice, but aesthetics of the gear is important to a lot of people, especially serious studio heads. I'm just saying, a piece that looks like a toy may not appeal to serious gear owners in many pro studio settings. I think the ID44 Sync I/O feature may appeal the a great number of users, which I believe the Avid does not have. The Audient also has a built in High Pass Filter, only achievable by Avid via software. The look of the gear matters to me, as well as a large population of other mature studio owners. I never said I hate the units' functionality... I said it looks like a toy... and it does. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this becomes a staple in professional studio settings. I don't think it will IMHO.
The conversion on the ID44 is mediocre.
Dear Colt. Long time suscriber. I have AudioMedia III, Original Cyan M-Box, Digi 001 and 002. Aside an MIX ++ setup. DIgidesign was bad giving support for older interfaces once they develop another batch of newer interfaces. 2 years ago I tried RME and I cant go back. Now I have 3 RME interfaces for Protools. If Avid would be like RME and still support 20 years old interfaces I would go back with them. I really hope your interface to be still supported in 5 years. I guess you will end getting an Appollo from Upstair Studio A once you do the Atmos setup. I encorage you to embrace Dante to have connected Studio A and B for Tracking a band on both simultaneously. Thanks for your videos. Always inspiring.
Yepp, I agree.
Never Avid again, I had a Digi002 with lots of RTA plugins, all useless. If Avid as a manufacturer screws up the clients for more money and create a lot of electronic waist for the environment then you totally suck as a company period.
When a company like Neyerink needs to provide drivers to get the expensive Pro Control and C24 surfaces working and Avid as a producer doesn’t want to do it then I never spend a dime again even if they make the best of the best, which they don’t.
My setup is RME with Reaper, companies that care about their end users and RME has up to date drivers for interfaces over 15 years old. 👊🏼
@@Studio22mix i am currently looking at the mbox studio because my RME ufx ii is super unreliable, the mic input to windows just stopped working and it sounds distorted at high sampling rates.
my RME was 2500 like 25 years ago .. 100 a year is cheap right lol .. re capped it myself last year.. total mix is great this has a mixer like it .. that mixer is the best thing to have
Hey Colt! great video again ! I really like how you review things and I bought this interface because of my old apogee element 24. The roundtrip of the avid mbox is higher but not a big deal at all I think. I ordered this interface at thomann from Germany. They give every person who ordered this interface a perpetual PT Studio with one year support. So I used every other DAW out there and everybody told me to not switch to pro tools but for me it feels right and I used the free version called intro I think and something happens inside myself when I start these DAW every time. I feel like coming home haha it's a lot of stuff to learn but at the end it's a phenomenal DAW and has a great community so far ! Thanks for your videos !
greetings Cryzor
Being a Cubase user I've never considered AVID. But this one seems to be interesting.
For many many years, their hardware was limited to ProTools. Only, in recent years, they’ve made a change, and I think that is really good.
4 mic pres are a good plus, but if I'm honest, once I get that close to $1.000 I'll just do RME. I've got a Babyface Pro FS as a portable bus powered unit (which I assume this isn't), and a Fireface UCX2, which has 6 analog outs and 8 analog ins, connected to a MOTU 8pre-es via adat AND sending AES digital to my main monitors (plus Auratones). The only thing that makes this avid box attractive is Pro Tools (which I don't care for).
Although I have the TL Audio Classic preamps and a Focusrite ISA One preamp I really like the preamps in the old AVID M Box Pro. It's much more superior to the other interfaces in the same category. I hope AVID would make a stripped down version of the M Box Studio that's more affordable than the original one.
I love the look of it, especially all of the I/O. I’m happy with my UAD interfaces but this looks great value for money. I remember the old Mbox from decades ago.
Thank you.
Only 8 software inputs for 22 hardware outputs : NO WAY !
Love your videos - always informative and entertaining.
Thanks for watching!
I have 2 independent headphone mixes on MiniFuse 4... 🤭 For what I do, there are enough inputs. Of course we talk about different levels of sound interfaces. Just saying that there are also cheaper interfaces that do independent headphones mixes, if that is all that matter to one. 😏
No doubt!
Lately I got interested in RME babyface pro as an upgrade under 1000$ for home studio. What's your views on RME?
Arturia Audiofuse Studio. $899. It has all the same connectivity plus more, I would venture a guess to better preamps, one-for-one buttons, multiple HP mixes, built in reamp, and is a usb hub. Fairly extensive mix software but easy to understand and has a button on the interface to open said software.
It’s definitely Audiofuse vs MBOX for me. Both are loaded for the price. The usb hub is such a nice addition. But, one thing I read that might be a deal breaker is monitor outs are not balanced on the audiofuse. Without balanced trs going into my monitors I get noticeable noise (likely from my PC or my UPS). Also, if I purchase MBOX within the next few days, Avid will include a $600 perpetual license for Pro Tools Studio. Want.
thanks for this review, it has been in my cart for a while. another one would be the Tascam Series 208i which has separate headphone mixes, too.
Great info Colt! I have a duet 2 and want to upgrade to a interface under 3000 and still thinking which to pick up! Thanks
899!??? YEP I have to get this!!! Great video!!
Killer box for the money in my opinion! Thanks for watching!
Hey Colt, I have looked at the new Motu 828which even has a built in mixer along with a good cue mix app,please when you get a chance tell me what you think
when I see colt I click.. wagwaan king
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I think "best" really comes down to what you need. The MBox is crazy, but I'n my case I only have one pair of monitors, rarely record more than one input at a time and NEED a clean, powerful headphone amp with low impedance to power my planars.
After a ton of research, the Topping E2X2 was the only interface that fit the bill for me. The mic pres are extremely clean and the headphone amp is unmatched in any interface I've seen. It has multiple virtual outs with loopback, and it costs the same as other 2in2out interfaces like the Scarlett 2i2 or the Volt while absolutely blowing them out of the water in pretty much every category.
Hey Colt, how does it perform on Mac OS? And the round trip latency? Could you check the RTL in 44.100khz / 24bit/ 128 and 256 buffer size to show us the milliseconds?
The downside of it for me was that you’re not allowed to route directly from pro tools to the adat/digital outputs, you need to route them to the mbox control software and then to the adat BUT there’s only 8 outs so… that’s it, you can’t have those outputs and different analog outputs and so on… finally went to the Neumann mt48 and that’s a beast (goes beyond the $1000 tough)
The Arturia audiofuse studio does exactly the same and more like usb hub, 2x adat. The avid has a nicer colorfull interface although.
SSL12 with the 360 software is a total no brainer! 😎
Pretty sure the audient iD44 has independent headphone mixes and everything else you mentioned? Can someone correct me if I’m wrong?
I think that box is probably the next best option! Personally, I like the layout and function of this one a bit better, but that is definitely a capable box!
I hope it serves you well!
no midi no reamp no bluetooth
Hey Colt, Can I plug my PT HD system w/2 196’s into this? Instead of adding an Apollo? Great video. Thank you,
MBOX STUDIO is my next interface
My Mackie Big Knob Series, 3x2 Studio Monitor Controller does all these but it started acting up after couple years of use. So I'm looking for an interface and monitor upgrade.
I feel kind of dumb to have to ask this but how is this a 21 input interface if it only has 2 mic inputs on the front and 2 on the back? I can't record a drum kit with more than 4 mics right? WTF am I missing?
ADAT sir
Hi does anyone know if this Interface also is working on Windows 11? I need to get a new one since the Drivers for mine won't be updated anymore and neither Pro Tools oe Nuendo can find it anymore. Would be happy to get some opinions and thanks beforehand!
Arturia Audiofuse Studio does everything this interface does and more.
Cole what would you recommend for an 8 channel audio interface around 1000.00?
They always mention those high
I/0 that are via ADAT 😂 Focusrite 18i8 3rd Gen does similar for less.. Including The 2 Headphones Out + The 4X Mic/Instrument in
Sold my UA with the old Thunderbolt and bought this MBOX. I am a "vet" and it is fabulous! Great mic pre's, a pretty unit. MBOX control makes it easy to get r done, unlike UA Console. DOPE!
Arturia has something very similar to this honestly, that is very very good!
I am not a fan of table top interfaces but i love the feat it has. Never heard of an interface that have a reamp box in it. Are there any interface alternatives in rack size that has that?
Nice piece! May I ask an unrelated question please. What display is that you’re using?
How would you compare this with Audient ID44 or Motu M6?
Quantum is 599.99 ? On sale hurry!
It looks like a Stars Wars controller or something when is not powered… :)
All of these youtube guys just do commercials now
Nice ty..
Presonus 2626 ..... Thunderbolt! Less than $700
Does it work 100% with Pc and Windows?
Ah-hem... ✋️😩
[cough cough] Arturia Audiofuse Studio
No, seriously...😂 It's literally a knockoff of the Arturia Audiofuse Studio, just with a few LESS features.
I had the Digi 001 in 2001
Colt...
I know you run a Mac. Do you know how solid this is with a Windows PC? For example, some Thunderbolt interfaces flunk the Windows tests, despite the claims.
And Windows latency?
Will be using Studio One as the DAW.
Your vids are quite helpful to rookies like me.
If you’re talking about windows, nowadays, one issue is usually is “Drivers” just check how solid it runs with drivers and that’s it. It’s usb c interface and not thunderbolt one
I couldnt connect to download the firmware my Win 10 desktop. I had to use my Win laptop 11 to flash the firmware but once that was done it worked fine with Win 10. The FX loops are a game changer as you can use these for guitars and synths and they work a treat.
So would you say this interface is better than the Digi 192?
guys do i go for this one or Apollo X4 Heritage Edition
do you not use opals or ns10s anymore
Cool video
What is with the Apollo x4?
A lot of interfaces have SPDIF in/out. What do people use these for?
I connect my speakers to it.. I have not tested it, but in my head I get better quality since I can stay digital and do not have to use the converters of the interface to go to my speakers
First one today
Get it!!
Spend a little more and get you a Cranborne R8.
I hadn’t seen that before, looks like a very interesting box!
Avid equals Protools, so never in my Apollo Studio, I am a Cubase guy for 25 years, but i respect..
Really? You have antelope, RME, universal audio and you choose AVID??? 🤣 cmon!
Once again, avid has nashville in a chokehold
Lost me at AVID....
ahahahah I understand you!
Audient ID44 or even ID22 for the win!
The Mboc is a very good sounding interface.
Easy, it's the RME Babyface PRO
Probably a decent interface but it looks so childish!
can you be my mentor 🥲
If you take the time to watch every video on the channel, you will get more info than I could give you in two years in person 😜🙏🏻
Nope...RME .
How does this compare to the Arturia Audiofuse Studio?
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