Bruce was a friend. We went to high school together, we were both in band and golf. He was a great guy and very humble. We spoke and laughed at our high school reunion. He was very proud of his family, faith, and being a part of the Jack Nicolas design team. He died doing what he loved.
And proud of the Jack Douglas design team really?? Died doing what he loved?? I’m guess ing he’d rather be with his family at home and safe. False bravado makes the real things in his life seem so unimportant.
@@MarkT36 He called the Golden Bear Jack Douglas! His soft spot as a baby never healed. The void allowed him to lose 10-15% of his brain matter annually. His school bus was so short, there was only 1row of seats.
I remember having the TV on when the news broke. I was a big Stewart fan (I started liking him because he had started wearing the colors of whatever the closest NFL team was to the tournaments he played in, and of course his nickers). The only solace is knowing that everyone on that plane simply fell asleep and never woke up. Still such a tragedy.
He had such a beautiful fluid and rhythmic swing where everything seemed to move together in smooth unison, culminating in that classic high finish. Hard to believe its been 20 years - RIP Payne.
Payne was one of my favorite golfers, first because we shared the last name of Stewart. I remember hearing the announcement that he was on the plane & finally that the plane had crashed. At the time, I pictured in my mind what was he doing & thinking as the plane fell. Later I heard they were all unconscious. 6 families lost their loved ones that day. RIP
Nov. 30 1973..I flew with a 2 man crew on N275LE...Learjet 24D...from Chicago to Wilmington, DE. Jerry West was left seat captain. The trip over and back he had harnessed the 02 mask all the time. Even 45 years later I remember him explaining to me about De-compression procedures and his immediate responce for such an event. He was a F-102 pilot in the National Guard..did this out of habit. Took precautions especially when Learjets were relatively new in those days. I was an air traffic controller in the Air Force and later with FAA at the Center in Chicago. We all miss Payne Stewart and those on board.
First golfer we seen at Gleneagles in '93 as we walked from the car park to the course, he had his plus fours on as usual and instantly recogniseable to us... he was on the green over a Putt, canned it and punched the air with a big smile...great memories of Payne... he loved his Stewart Tartan too, great player to watch !
I was a crew member on the University of North Dakota's Cessna Citation II weather research aircraft from 1984 to 1993. I was the instrument engineer and experienced the very thing that killed the crew on Payne Stewart's plane. Our crew probably survived because of my realization that I was experiencing hypoxia. I participated in the altitude chamber training at Ellsworth AFB a few years prior. Our plane had a notorious cabin pressure leak at high altitude. We had an SF6 detection instrument on board, which was VERY sensitive to cabin pressure changes. We were flying at near the aircraft's service ceiling and this instrument started drifting badly. I asked the pilot to stabilize the cabin pressure so I could get accurate readings. It was no use, the cabin pressure kept decreasing. We had a sensor in the electronics that would disconnect power from the research equipment when cabin pressure hit 17,000 feet, or something like that. I knew we were going to lose power soon, so I started taking notes on what was going on. Suddenly I forgot how to write. It was then that I remembered being unable to write was a symptom of O2 depravation. I immediately yelled to the pilot, "Roger, drop the masks now!!" He did and we all survived to tell the story, although I was the only one that ever did. The call sign of our jet was 77ND and is currently in a KS boneyard. It crashed in AK due to ice ingestion during a Sikorsky helicopter icing certification experiment. That crew also survived without injury. If you'd like the pictures of that unintended landing, let me know I hope you enjoyed this little narrative. I enjoy sharing it.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q We moved to Bayfield, WI in 2009. That was my last year at UND. Thank you for the video and reply. What a small world! Best to you both.
Thanks for the interesting story - glad you're here to tell it! More great stories (that didn't end like yours) in James Chile's book 'Inviting Disaster.'
J"ai suivis les performances de Payne quand j'étais jeune , je suivais les tournois de de la PGA. J'apprenais le même sport que lui, mais sans aucun fondement d'en faire une carrière, mais lui oui. Aujourd'hui après plus de trente ans, J'apprend toujours, à connaître Payne. RIP Payne
A documentary suggested that the pilots' manual was worded wrong. When cabin pressure is lost, advice was revised to put on oxygen masks immediately, not go down the list. His Lear jet was "porpoising", trying to keep climbing, but the air not allowing it, so bobbing up and down.
Listened to the flight on Paul Harvey...all morning. ...After meeting Payne Stewart on the Sea Pines golf course on Hilton Head Island, SC...during The Heritage golf tournament.
@@JamesSmith-qr7be well first you just fall sleep nice and peaceful. Then you become brain dead and then finally within like 5 minutes you're dead and you never feel a thing. All those people were dead before they crashed. The same thing happened on a Helios flight. They lost pressurization and they all died and the plane crashed too. That flight had like a hundred and something people on board even little kids. You should check it out, there's a documentary on You Tube. It's either Mayday or Air Crash Investigation and its worth the watch.
I saw this happen. I was on the ground at the Aberdeen airport. I called a mechanic to come witness what I was witnessing. Neither of us heard of the news prior to what we were watching. Not until the FAA called the FBO did I realize what had just happened.
@@captainmorgan757 Understood. Then I guess you saw it spinning? That must have put a pit in your stomach seeing an out of control plane. I remember watching the 'special reports' that came on the news, and it sounded ominous. Such a shame for all those folks on the plane and their families, but I suppose we can thank God it didn't crash into a city or other populated area.
@@Jbiglin I had no idea what it was that I saw falling . My initial thought was, "what are they (the two chase fighter jets) dropping and why?" They were coming from the southeast, at roughly FL 350. Then an object began to fall. Five minutes later the fighter jets were just southwest of the airfield (approximately ten miles away) and circling about 2,000 ft. AGL. When I heard that they (the fighter jet pilots) "lost sight of the plane, in a cloud" it was a lie. There were no clouds in the vicinity of the airfield, at that time, on that day; otherwise, I would have not been able to witness all that I had witnessed. Why they lied about "losing sight of the plane" I don't know.
I remember watching CNN breaking news, then the continued coverage. There was some discussion that the plane might have to be shot down because of concerns it could go down on a school or big urban area. It was heading toward Canada, too. I was relieved when it went down over an open area. Still so sad. I loved watching Payne Stewart's career.
I was at work. I was listening to the radio in my truck when I heard the news. I didn't know Payne Stewart but I started saying to myself out loud "oh no! oh no! oh no! and started crying uncontrollably for reasons I can't explain. I just sat in my work truck sobbing. As a lifelong golfer and golf fan, I just felt that I couldn't understand how this could happen to such a good person. Sometimes things in this life just make no sense to me.
You can't explain it. All life is random and chance. It h as nothing to do with good or bad, nice or not nice, young or old. Whenever you risk your life, you could lose it. Flying is always a risk you agree to take when you buy a ticket.
legitimately cried when I heard the news... I loved watching him... thankful that in the latter years of his life, he was more humble and giving of his great personality... the 1999 US Open will always hold a special place in my heart.. his embrace with Phil over Mickelson's impending fatherhood summarized his heart.. so sad that he left way too soon
It's unfortunate that the names of the crew were not given the prominence of the others on the memorial marker. Just because they were working does not make their deaths any less meaningful.
@@95bochamp -- I'm with you =- Their names are in smaller font as well - I noticed that immediately....The hired help and not Millionnaire business people....Just wrong - Rest in Peace one and all
Remember Peter Aliss saying about how Payne Stewart was leading in a Ryder cup match with Colin Montgomery and the home US crowd were hurling abuse at Colin just before a putt. Payne stepped up and ended the round by halving it with colin knowing for well that Colin could have missed the putt and given Payne the victory. That's what you call sportsmanship, he was an amazing golfer and took all the pressure off Colin. A true legend along eith Seve and others
There is a golf course in a suburb of Vancouver Canada, called Northview that has a street named Payne Stewart Way . Payne Stewart was a great supporter of This Canadian PGA Event held there every year until 2002. It was also the home of the very first PGA Win for Mike Weir.
I'm sorry that Jesus didn't take better care of Payne and his family. They were left without him too soon. If that was God's plan, it was a bad plan, like so many plans.
Whenever something goes bad, it’s free will and whenever something goes good. It’s God‘s plan. I know a politician who thinks exactly like that. I think some say that he was chosen by God.
Sad Day,,,, Such a Great Talent,,,, Great Showman,,, Great Father and Husband,,, I Wonder How Accurate The 2 Minutes Between Last Radio Transmission and Being Off Course Really Is...
As a fellow Christian I remember with joy that he was born again before this but I grieve for his family and his friends because we all lost an admired person some lost a close friend and some lost a beloved person. The world lost the person who dared to dress different and had the perfect swing. Such a sad day!
What makes this even more sad is that the first item on the checklist in the event of a loss of pressurization at the time was not to don oxygen masks, but to try to figure out the problem and if you can't, then put on oxygen masks. As a result the FAA revised all checklists of pressurized planes ranging from corporate to commercial airliners to have the first item on the checklist for a loss of cabin pressure to don oxygen masks.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q TY such a sad day and I'm remembering PS 25 yrs later as I watched it Live so glad he won and over 2 of the best golfers ever!! RIP and can't wait to watch some more great golf tomorrow!
I felt terrible for him and his family in 1999, but all I could think about was how big of a jerk he was to me when I met him in 1987. I was 14 years old. He was my favorite golfer, and I was destroyed.
I would have liked to hear a couple of airplane safety experts comment on what happened and why both the pilot and copilot went to sleep at the same time. It seems that some of the six would have fallen asleep first and that might have caused alarm in the others. I don't know anything about airplanes losing pressure in the cabin, but I've always wondered about this particular flight. Wouldn't an alarm go crazy as soon as pressure was lost? Wouldn't the pilot/co-pilot immediately call their tower for help when the alarm went off? Was there a black box or are few private jets equipped with them? Has this happened 10 times in 20 years or was this the only time?
Read the very long comments of a gentlemen named "jagjet" on another channel named "Fatal Silence" who appeared to be very knowledgeable & had info not privy to most of us. He believes the pilots did not turn on the air pressurization switch, he stated they died quickly.
The NTSB put as much of the plane back together in a hanger at the Aberdeen SD airport. About a week after the crash while I was walking out of a business along Hwy 12 in Aberdeen I saw a flatbed full of plane parts go by. No big military or Hwy Patrol escort. Just an awful sight.
Remember his star starting to rise right before he passed. To be coming into his own right in the middle of tiger’s run was something. I was a teenager when he passed, I remember asking myself how hell a plane can crash while it’s still flying. Learned about depressurization at that point.
Amazing to think how many F15s were scrambled and caught up with Payee's flight, yet when on 9/11 when 4 commercial flights went awry and started slamming into buildings there were no airforce jets to be seen.
All because of a checklist that did not specify “put your mask on first”. Had the pilots done that, they could have dropped down to 10,000 feet and everyone would have lived. That checklist was changed after this incident, but too late for Payne Stewart.
@@MajorCaliber He is correct. That was the reason for the incident. They followed a check list that did not instruct them to put on their mask first. Sounds simple to us, but not so much for pilots who are trained to follow the manufacturer check list. And they did. And they died.
RIP Michael J. Kling (1956-1999) Stephanie Bellegarrigue (1972-1999) Payne Stewart (1957-1999) Robert E. Fraley (1953-1999) Van Ardan (1954-1999) and Bruce Borland (1958-1999)
A plane crash is one of the worst ways to go. People going on holiday, or coming back from holiday. People visiting family and friends. Luggage full of photos and videos, and gifts for family members. Children's toys found in the wreckage. "Bye. Have fun. I'll see you when you get back." Then...gone...forever. My wife's father died in a plane crash six years ago, and she's not been the same since. She still imagines he's alive. She loves him so much that she's willing to overlook logic and facts just for that glimmer of hope that she'll be able to see her daddy again. It breaks my heart. I'm crying whilst I'm typing this.
Balzac T Bagher No. They’re basically fake news. “Black man shot by cops”. But the real story is armed black man shoots at the cops and gets shot. But CNN reports it in a way to rile people up. That’s why they’re called fake news.
Don P Apparently you know what he is. And no. The flat earthers don’t like Trump. They tend to gravitate more to the left as it’s more authoritarian in nature. But you knew this. Not sure why suddenly people care about a president lying. Obama did it for eight years, so did Bush. Should probably stop letting your petty hatred get in the way of moving forward in life. At least then you won’t be on TH-cam asking asinine questions.
hard to believe an advanced aircraft like this wouldn't have an emergency warning indicator telling the crew that it was not maintaining proper cabin pressure. unbelievable.
The thing is, if it was a sudden depressurization, they'd have had very little time before they passed out-probably 15 seconds to hear the alarm, recognize what the problem was, and get the oxygen masks on.
Harpoon_Bakery It could be a lot of things. I could also be wrong about it being sudden. But yeah-at that altitude, your time of "useful consciousness" is pretty short
Everyone remembers where they were during these events. I had just watched Payne practice and play in his last tournament at Disney while on vacation at the Shades of Green Disney Military Resort. I later found out that my Air Guard unit in Tulsa took part in the chase. Such coincidence but it was a tragic day I’ll never forget. He was a great player, colorful character, and was good for the PGA.
Something similar but unrelated occurred with a Kalitta Lear as well. It wasn’t a rapid loss of pressure; instead a slow leak. Pilots went hypoxic; or very close to it....but thankfully they were able to get out of it. The ATC audio is on you tube
Grant unto them, oh Lord, eternal rest. Let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace. May their souls, and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace.
So this plane is 9 miles off course after half hour and F16s are scrambled. Why didn’t we do that on 911 when 4 jets were hundreds of miles off course?
Knowing all onboard were deceased I think the airforce took it down in a 'Safe Area' rather than take a chance on it not crashing in a built up area like a large city.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q I witnessed this from the ground at the Aberdeen airport (I had not heard of the news, so I had no idea what it was that I was witnessing). I can affirm your statement ma'am. The chase jets did *not* fire at the Lear jet. If someone thinks/says so, they are lying!
Payne Stewart is the professional golfer I first started watching and really enjoying his sport of golf, I was very saddened to hear of all the deaths of this crew/ Payne Stewart / and business associates. My deepest sympathy . I now love Tiger Woods, but will always hold Payne Stewart as my first favorite golfer. fan of Payne Steward (departed) now, but not forgotten,
What a horrible way to die I was driving across South Dakota when they announced it would run out of fuel around North and South Dakota not long after that crash Alaska 261 happened out over the Pacific Ocean 😮😮😮😮
Oh he didn't feel anything. When Hypoxia takes hold you just fall asleep nice and peaceful and then become brain dead and then finally death. They were all dead before they crashed.
N47BA Was on ferry only permit below 12,00 feet pressure vessel known issue and was not to be sold or leased, but it was. I went on mission in 2015 with an insurance investigator from Atlanta. He said its original owner had a son that carried a hand gun and a pilots license and may have discharged a gun in the cockpit area. It was well known this plane was not safe at high altitude and was NOT supposed to be sold or leased but quietly was.
What you are indicating , if true, is quite something. That's significant info. 12K ceiling sounds about right. When ATC in JAX told them to go to 39K, I was astonished. I did not know they were told to go that high.
Is there a flying & also medical expert on here???? I’m wondering do people on planes when that happens do they all pass out at once or could they pass out one at a time?????
Patrick Gray the people died of hypoxia, or lack of oxygen. It affects people differently and at different rates. My husband was the f16 pilot in the video. He had to go to the altitude chamber during training. So I’m sure they died one at a time.
I take it no bodies were recovered. What caused the plane to malfunction? It could have been: human error, design error, manufacturing error, maintenance error.
I worked security at the gate in the community he lived in and every time he passed me, he'd wave with this huge smile. RIP Payne Stewart.
Windermere, Bay Hill Club!!
@@Newzchspy Yes
And a golfer, to boot....that's the biggest pussy "sport" there is, not even really a sport
@@kendallevans4079 FUCK you. .pussy
@@kendallevans4079 Sport or not, you probably suck.
Bruce was a friend. We went to high school together, we were both in band and golf. He was a great guy and very humble. We spoke and laughed at our high school reunion. He was very proud of his family, faith, and being a part of the Jack Nicolas design team. He died doing what he loved.
Great Story To Share, Thank You.
And proud of the Jack Douglas design team really?? Died doing what he loved?? I’m guess ing he’d rather be with his family at home and safe. False bravado makes the real things in his life seem so unimportant.
@@fuzzybutkus8970 What the hell are you even talking about?
@@fuzzybutkus8970Moron
@@MarkT36
He called the Golden Bear Jack Douglas! His soft spot as a baby never healed. The void allowed him to lose 10-15% of his brain matter annually. His school bus was so short, there was only 1row of seats.
I was in flight school while this aircraft flew over us. I’m a golfer too. Broke my heart.
Me too
According to the NTSB, there was a loss of pressurization. However, the checklist did not have the donning of oxygen masks as the first step.
@@Powerranger-le4up and now oxygen masks are step 1. Rules of aviation are written in blood.
I remember having the TV on when the news broke. I was a big Stewart fan (I started liking him because he had started wearing the colors of whatever the closest NFL team was to the tournaments he played in, and of course his nickers). The only solace is knowing that everyone on that plane simply fell asleep and never woke up. Still such a tragedy.
He had such a beautiful fluid and rhythmic swing where everything seemed to move together in smooth unison, culminating in that classic high finish. Hard to believe its been 20 years - RIP Payne.
Sent from the heavens. He’s with the Lord.
@@SethMacLeod95Why? Did God want to play golf with him?
@@gogreen7794 what are you talking about? Lol
Payne was one of my favorite golfers, first because we shared the last name of Stewart. I remember hearing the announcement that he was on the plane & finally that the plane had crashed. At the time, I pictured in my mind what was he doing & thinking as the plane fell. Later I heard they were all unconscious. 6 families lost their loved ones that day. RIP
Nov. 30 1973..I flew with a 2 man crew on N275LE...Learjet 24D...from Chicago to Wilmington, DE. Jerry West was left seat captain. The trip over and back he had harnessed the 02 mask all the time. Even 45 years later I remember him explaining to me about De-compression procedures and his immediate responce for such an event. He was a F-102 pilot in the National Guard..did this out of habit. Took precautions especially when Learjets were relatively new in those days. I was an air traffic controller in the Air Force and later with FAA at the Center in Chicago. We all miss Payne Stewart and those on board.
First golfer we seen at Gleneagles in '93 as we walked from the car park to the course, he had his plus fours on as usual and instantly recogniseable to us... he was on the green over a Putt, canned it and punched the air with a big smile...great memories of Payne... he loved his Stewart Tartan too, great player to watch !
I was a crew member on the University of North Dakota's Cessna Citation II weather research aircraft from 1984 to 1993. I was the instrument engineer and experienced the very thing that killed the crew on Payne Stewart's plane. Our crew probably survived because of my realization that I was experiencing hypoxia.
I participated in the altitude chamber training at Ellsworth AFB a few years prior. Our plane had a notorious cabin pressure leak at high altitude. We had an SF6 detection instrument on board, which was VERY sensitive to cabin pressure changes. We were flying at near the aircraft's service ceiling and this instrument started drifting badly. I asked the pilot to stabilize the cabin pressure so I could get accurate readings. It was no use, the cabin pressure kept decreasing.
We had a sensor in the electronics that would disconnect power from the research equipment when cabin pressure hit 17,000 feet, or something like that. I knew we were going to lose power soon, so I started taking notes on what was going on. Suddenly I forgot how to write. It was then that I remembered being unable to write was a symptom of O2 depravation.
I immediately yelled to the pilot, "Roger, drop the masks now!!" He did and we all survived to tell the story, although I was the only one that ever did.
The call sign of our jet was 77ND and is currently in a KS boneyard. It crashed in AK due to ice ingestion during a Sikorsky helicopter icing certification experiment. That crew also survived without injury. If you'd like the pictures of that unintended landing, let me know
I hope you enjoyed this little narrative. I enjoy sharing it.
Do you still live in GF? I posted the video and my husband is the pilot that saw the plane go down. We still live in Fargo.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q We moved to Bayfield, WI in 2009. That was my last year at UND. Thank you for the video and reply. What a small world! Best to you both.
Thanks for the cool story! So glad you survived!
Thanks for the interesting story - glad you're here to tell it!
More great stories (that didn't end like yours) in James Chile's book 'Inviting Disaster.'
I have enjoyed your story. I would love to see pics.
Thank you for sharing your story. I find it fascinating.
I remember hearing this day quite well. It was a sad day. Hearing the news of the plane still in the air with all possibly dead still creeps me out.
I met Mr Stewart in Dallas, I was security in the locker room in the clubhouse. He was a great and kind man, always had a joke for me.
One of those days you never forget. RIP
Saw Payne win his last tournament while at the airport. Fun memories. Was devastated when he passed away.
At 0:06, that's NOT South Dakota. All phone lines are buried underground and have been since the '70's. So what else is fake in the video?
I think this was the first time I saw my dad well-up with emotion about something he was watching on television since Waco in 93.
I recall driving near Chicago, listening to the news reports on the radio when this occurred. Later on I read a book about Payne.
J"ai suivis les performances de Payne quand j'étais jeune , je suivais les tournois de de la PGA.
J'apprenais le même sport que lui, mais sans aucun fondement d'en faire une carrière, mais lui oui.
Aujourd'hui après plus de trente ans, J'apprend toujours, à connaître Payne.
RIP Payne
A documentary suggested that the pilots' manual was worded wrong. When cabin pressure is lost, advice was revised to put on oxygen masks immediately, not go down the list. His Lear jet was "porpoising", trying to keep climbing, but the air not allowing it, so bobbing up and down.
Listened to the flight on Paul Harvey...all morning. ...After meeting Payne Stewart on the Sea Pines golf course on Hilton Head Island, SC...during The Heritage golf tournament.
It doesn't seem that long ago. I watched it all that day.
I got to watch him play one year in the old Memphis St. Jude golf classic. What an authentically nice person.
Once cabin pressure goes below 1 ATM, you have seconds to respond...before death.
So how do you die? You just freeze?
You suffocate,not enough O2 in the air at high altitudes...then you freeze.
@@atticus9907 how long from feeling fine to death ya reckon
@@JamesSmith-qr7be well first you just fall sleep nice and peaceful. Then you become brain dead and then finally within like 5 minutes you're dead and you never feel a thing. All those people were dead before they crashed. The same thing happened on a Helios flight. They lost pressurization and they all died and the plane crashed too. That flight had like a hundred and something people on board even little kids. You should check it out, there's a documentary on You Tube. It's either Mayday or Air Crash Investigation and its worth the watch.
I saw this happen. I was on the ground at the Aberdeen airport. I called a mechanic to come witness what I was witnessing. Neither of us heard of the news prior to what we were watching. Not until the FAA called the FBO did I realize what had just happened.
Do you mean you saw the plane fall from the sky and crash?
@@Jbiglin I did not see the plane impact the ground, for it was about ten miles from my location (which was the Aberdeen airport).
@@captainmorgan757 Understood. Then I guess you saw it spinning? That must have put a pit in your stomach seeing an out of control plane. I remember watching the 'special reports' that came on the news, and it sounded ominous. Such a shame for all those folks on the plane and their families, but I suppose we can thank God it didn't crash into a city or other populated area.
@@Jbiglin I had no idea what it was that I saw falling .
My initial thought was, "what are they (the two chase fighter jets) dropping and why?"
They were coming from the southeast, at roughly FL 350. Then an object began to fall. Five minutes later the fighter jets were just southwest of the airfield (approximately ten miles away) and circling about 2,000 ft. AGL.
When I heard that they (the fighter jet pilots) "lost sight of the plane, in a cloud" it was a lie. There were no clouds in the vicinity of the airfield, at that time, on that day; otherwise, I would have not been able to witness all that I had witnessed.
Why they lied about "losing sight of the plane" I don't know.
@@captainmorgan757 Wow, that's insane. Cannot trust the govt.
Never forget getting off the golf course and hearing on the radio! R i p!
I remember the live coverage tracking the plane to see what happened boy 1999 was not a good year for private planes and famous people
Who else are you referring to? Honest question.
@@hopeless__-ut6tg John F Kennedy Jr, his wife, her sister
I remember watching CNN breaking news, then the continued coverage. There was some discussion that the plane might have to be shot down because of concerns it could go down on a school or big urban area. It was heading toward Canada, too. I was relieved when it went down over an open area. Still so sad. I loved watching Payne Stewart's career.
payne was very proud of his scottish ancestry. so ironic the final stop was Aberdeen
Absolutely insane 😳
Oh my😔
Damn
How’s it ironic
That was Aberdeen South Dakota, not Aberdeen Scotland.
I was at work. I was listening to the radio in my truck when I heard the news. I didn't know Payne Stewart but I started saying to myself out loud "oh no! oh no! oh no! and started crying uncontrollably for reasons I can't explain. I just sat in my work truck sobbing. As a lifelong golfer and golf fan, I just felt that I couldn't understand how this could happen to such a good person. Sometimes things in this life just make no sense to me.
He was an arrogant asshole.... and liked by few...
STONEFREE1962
I seriously doubt you are liked by anyone. You’re a real sick bastard!
You can't explain it. All life is random and chance. It h as nothing to do with good or bad, nice or not nice, young or old. Whenever you risk your life, you could lose it. Flying is always a risk you agree to take when you buy a ticket.
I remember that day ..... It was a shame ... The man was doing well in life and golf !
God bless Payne
Which God ? They claim there are many.
@@BigEightiesNewWaveJesus Christ. The ONLY way to the Father Almighty.
Believe today 🙏
I was just a kid back then now I'm 33 and i remember it as if it were yesterday that it happened
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legitimately cried when I heard the news... I loved watching him... thankful that in the latter years of his life, he was more humble and giving of his great personality... the 1999 US Open will always hold a special place in my heart.. his embrace with Phil over Mickelson's impending fatherhood summarized his heart.. so sad that he left way too soon
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Favorite Payne Stewart non golf memory he made a appearance on Home improvement & played a golf driving contest with Tim & AL. Lol
It was an interminably horrible time waiting for that plane to come down. There was nothing anyone could do but feel sick inside.
It's unfortunate that the names of the crew were not given the prominence of the others on the memorial marker. Just because they were working does not make their deaths any less meaningful.
The pilot names are on the memorial marker also
Michael Kling and Stephanie Bellegarrigue.
Agreed. I said that they should have been given equal prominence with the others (passengers).
The passengers and crew are always distinguished. Just because there is a slight separation does not mean lack of prominence. That's nonsense.
John Johansen says who? You?
@@95bochamp -- I'm with you =- Their names are in smaller font as well - I noticed that immediately....The hired help and not Millionnaire business people....Just wrong - Rest in Peace one and all
Remember Peter Aliss saying about how Payne Stewart was leading in a Ryder cup match with Colin Montgomery and the home US crowd were hurling abuse at Colin just before a putt. Payne stepped up and ended the round by halving it with colin knowing for well that Colin could have missed the putt and given Payne the victory. That's what you call sportsmanship, he was an amazing golfer and took all the pressure off Colin. A true legend along eith Seve and others
There is a golf course in a suburb of Vancouver Canada, called Northview that has a street named Payne Stewart Way . Payne Stewart was a great supporter of This Canadian PGA Event held there every year until 2002. It was also the home of the very first PGA Win for Mike Weir.
I've read His wife's memoir many times and the emotions are there every time. Payne was a great champion and knew Jesus Christ.
truly amazing the impact of his last few years..... _powerful_
on a first name basis?
I'm sorry that Jesus didn't take better care of Payne and his family. They were left without him too soon. If that was God's plan, it was a bad plan, like so many plans.
Jesus never existed and apparently god didn't care. Grow up.
Whenever something goes bad, it’s free will and whenever something goes good. It’s God‘s plan. I know a politician who thinks exactly like that. I think some say that he was chosen by God.
soooo sad sorry to all of the loved ones may you all rest in peace GOD SPEED!
I finished playing, walked in the clubhouse happy with my awful score. To watch this plane ride......
Sad Day,,,, Such a Great Talent,,,, Great Showman,,, Great Father and Husband,,, I Wonder How Accurate The 2 Minutes Between Last Radio Transmission and Being Off Course Really Is...
i was 10 years old and living in Huron SD when this happened. i heard about it from the news station KSFY
We watched it fly over our house with fighter jets next to it. Born and raised about 30 miles from Mina SD
As a fellow Christian I remember with joy that he was born again before this but I grieve for his family and his friends because we all lost an admired person some lost a close friend and some lost a beloved person. The world lost the person who dared to dress different and had the perfect swing. Such a sad day!
That is nice to hear. Now he sits next to Jesus in heaven. I hope the family and friends get restored. God bless them all!
Payne Stewart was a great golfer. May all who died that day rest in eternal peace.
The crash was talked about on Season 16 of Air Crash Investigation.
I lived in Aberdeen for 3 years, I had no idea!
I had no idea you played for Aberdeen or was it Aberdeen prison
What makes this even more sad is that the first item on the checklist in the event of a loss of pressurization at the time was not to don oxygen masks, but to try to figure out the problem and if you can't, then put on oxygen masks.
As a result the FAA revised all checklists of pressurized planes ranging from corporate to commercial airliners to have the first item on the checklist for a loss of cabin pressure to don oxygen masks.
The crash site is about 4 miles from the farm I grew up on. My father watched the plane fall while working in the field.
JDfreak 2012 I assume it just broke apart on impact since their was no fire due to no fuel???
@@patrickgray5633it dove straight in. The crash site wasn't very big. It went in deep.
JDfreak 2012 did your dad see the Air Force Jets as well?
I just hope you have no nightmares about it.
Jason Worth calm down Chief
Will never forget those leggings ... he was an awesome golfer 🏌️
Is 39K feet altitude normal for that type of aircraft? Seems way high
Yes normal
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q TY such a sad day and I'm remembering PS 25 yrs later as I watched it Live so glad he won and over 2 of the best golfers ever!! RIP and can't wait to watch some more great golf tomorrow!
Believe they purposefully fly that high because the air is thinner, lowering fuel cost.
All we can do is pray for them and all who have left this world, were right behind them in the flash of an eye.
I felt terrible for him and his family in 1999, but all I could think about was how big of a jerk he was to me when I met him in 1987. I was 14 years old. He was my favorite golfer, and I was destroyed.
I thought about this the first time I reached over 9 miles high in my Learjet 24F.
I would have liked to hear a couple of airplane safety experts comment on what happened and why both the pilot and copilot went to sleep at the same time. It seems that some of the six would have fallen asleep first and that might have caused alarm in the others. I don't know anything about airplanes losing pressure in the cabin, but I've always wondered about this particular flight. Wouldn't an alarm go crazy as soon as pressure was lost? Wouldn't the pilot/co-pilot immediately call their tower for help when the alarm went off? Was there a black box or are few private jets equipped with them? Has this happened 10 times in 20 years or was this the only time?
Read the very long comments of a gentlemen named "jagjet" on another channel named "Fatal Silence" who appeared to be very knowledgeable & had info not privy to most of us. He believes the pilots did not turn on the air pressurization switch, he stated they died quickly.
The NTSB put as much of the plane back together in a hanger at the Aberdeen SD airport. About a week after the crash while I was walking out of a business along Hwy 12 in Aberdeen I saw a flatbed full of plane parts go by. No big military or Hwy Patrol escort. Just an awful sight.
Remember his star starting to rise right before he passed. To be coming into his own right in the middle of tiger’s run was something. I was a teenager when he passed, I remember asking myself how hell a plane can crash while it’s still flying. Learned about depressurization at that point.
Amazing to think how many F15s were scrambled and caught up with Payee's flight, yet when on 9/11 when 4 commercial flights went awry and started slamming into buildings there were no airforce jets to be seen.
They were scrambled as soon as the authorities were aware of terrorism. Naive take.
@@mortalclown3812the only naive take is what you think happened on 9/11
All because of a checklist that did not specify “put your mask on first”. Had the pilots done that, they could have dropped down to 10,000 feet and everyone would have lived. That checklist was changed after this incident, but too late for Payne Stewart.
Are you sure about that? Oxy mask first has been S.O.P. on larger jets for decades...
@@MajorCaliber Putting on your oxygen mask was not listed as standard procedure for pilots. After this incident it was.
How do you know they even started the checklist? Highly unlikely they ever knew there was a problem.
All of the "what ifs" are so so awful having experienced yes same in 1974 - so so sad.
@@MajorCaliber He is correct. That was the reason for the incident. They followed a check list that did not instruct them to put on their mask first. Sounds simple to us, but not so much for pilots who are trained to follow the manufacturer check list. And they did. And they died.
I remember watching this happening on TV. What a sad day.
RIP
Michael J. Kling
(1956-1999)
Stephanie Bellegarrigue
(1972-1999)
Payne Stewart
(1957-1999)
Robert E. Fraley
(1953-1999)
Van Ardan
(1954-1999)
and
Bruce Borland
(1958-1999)
where were the Maintenace records of the lear?
I saw that crater in the ground. It was so deep and you could not even know that was a plane in there.
He was a champion golfer and super nice guy , what a waste 🏌️♀️⛳️
I’ll never forget watching this … Payne and I are both born on Jan 30th
Ditto.
Happy - belated - birthday. ✨️
"Great personality" does not describe Payne Stewart, although I admit this is a sad sad event to happen to anybody!
A plane crash is one of the worst ways to go. People going on holiday, or coming back from holiday. People visiting family and friends. Luggage full of photos and videos, and gifts for family members. Children's toys found in the wreckage. "Bye. Have fun. I'll see you when you get back." Then...gone...forever. My wife's father died in a plane crash six years ago, and she's not been the same since. She still imagines he's alive. She loves him so much that she's willing to overlook logic and facts just for that glimmer of hope that she'll be able to see her daddy again. It breaks my heart. I'm crying whilst I'm typing this.
Sorry for the loss. That must be hard to take
1999. Back when CNN reported actual news.
Still do but you don't like what they report
Nikki Travis lol truth?
If it’s truth why do they constantly settle out of court for libel, lies and slander? Hrmm?
Balzac T Bagher No. They’re basically fake news.
“Black man shot by cops”.
But the real story is armed black man shoots at the cops and gets shot.
But CNN reports it in a way to rile people up. That’s why they’re called fake news.
Don P And you probably think the world is flat and CNN tells the truth.
Don P Apparently you know what he is. And no. The flat earthers don’t like Trump. They tend to gravitate more to the left as it’s more authoritarian in nature. But you knew this.
Not sure why suddenly people care about a president lying. Obama did it for eight years, so did Bush. Should probably stop letting your petty hatred get in the way of moving forward in life. At least then you won’t be on TH-cam asking asinine questions.
hard to believe an advanced aircraft like this wouldn't have an emergency warning indicator telling the crew that it was not maintaining proper cabin pressure. unbelievable.
The thing is, if it was a sudden depressurization, they'd have had very little time before they passed out-probably 15 seconds to hear the alarm, recognize what the problem was, and get the oxygen masks on.
@@almostfm wow, that's hardly any time at all. so is a sudden decompression usually the bulk-head.? seems unlikely for a Lear product.
Harpoon_Bakery It could be a lot of things. I could also be wrong about it being sudden. But yeah-at that altitude, your time of "useful consciousness" is pretty short
SADLY MISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason Worth
Then just shut the hell up!!
Everyone remembers where they were during these events. I had just watched Payne practice and play in his last tournament at Disney while on vacation at the Shades of Green Disney Military Resort. I later found out that my Air Guard unit in Tulsa took part in the chase. Such coincidence but it was a tragic day I’ll never forget. He was a great player, colorful character, and was good for the PGA.
I immediately thought about flight 93 and how little wreckage was found.
Something similar but unrelated occurred with a Kalitta Lear as well. It wasn’t a rapid loss of pressure; instead a slow leak. Pilots went hypoxic; or very close to it....but thankfully they were able to get out of it. The ATC audio is on you tube
I’ve thought about setting the cruise control on my mini van to 90 mph then going in the back to lie down.
It’s like his life came full circle 🙏🏿
I’m just glad he found God and he went peacefully no pain felt😔
Excellent doc. Rip Payne.
Grant unto them, oh Lord, eternal rest. Let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace. May their souls, and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace.
Why are the crew's names smaller on the memorial? Because they weren't rich people in a private jet, just employees, they are less important?
So this plane is 9 miles off course after half hour and F16s are scrambled. Why didn’t we do that on 911 when 4 jets were hundreds of miles off course?
Or when they flew past one of the most protected airbases in the US
Knowing all onboard were deceased I think the airforce took it down in a 'Safe Area' rather than take a chance on it not crashing in a built up area like a large city.
Apsey boy no. My husband was the AF pilot in the video who saw it go down. It just ran out of gas and they knew it would go down in a rural area.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q That must have been horrible for your husband, knowing nothing could be done.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q I witnessed this from the ground at the Aberdeen airport (I had not heard of the news, so I had no idea what it was that I was witnessing). I can affirm your statement ma'am. The chase jets did *not* fire at the Lear jet. If someone thinks/says so, they are lying!
I believe the same. they didn't just sit back and let it crash
Payne Stewart is the professional golfer I first started watching and really enjoying his sport of golf, I was very saddened to hear of all the deaths of this crew/ Payne Stewart / and business associates. My deepest sympathy . I now love Tiger Woods, but will always hold Payne Stewart as my first favorite golfer.
fan of Payne Steward (departed) now, but not forgotten,
It was Tiger Woods who was too busy to pay tribute to Stewart at Pebble Beach...he was the only no show...what a complete ass of a human being
What a horrible way to die I was driving across South Dakota when they announced it would run out of fuel around North and South Dakota not long after that crash Alaska 261 happened out over the Pacific Ocean 😮😮😮😮
Actually it wouldn’t be so bad. Hypoxia is a state of euphoria. Then they simply fell asleep and died before the plane ever crashed.
@@user-ps8zx3cr4q hey , someone stealed you video
@@andrewilliamcesardossantos1555
'Stealed' is not a word. ('Steeled' is, but it means something else.)
What year did this happen?
1999
Payne felt no pain. At least I pray to god they didn't.
Oh he didn't feel anything. When Hypoxia takes hold you just fall asleep nice and peaceful and then become brain dead and then finally death. They were all dead before they crashed.
What people may not know is Payne Stewart took his family on tour. He was a dedicated family man. R.I.P. Payne Stewart and best wishes to his family
I remember being very sad he was my favorite golfer.
me too
A classic modern mystery. May their dear souls rest in peace 🙏
N47BA Was on ferry only permit below 12,00 feet pressure vessel known issue and was not to be sold or leased, but it was. I went on mission in 2015 with an insurance investigator from Atlanta. He said its original owner had a son that carried a hand gun and a pilots license and may have discharged a gun in the cockpit area. It was well known this plane was not safe at high altitude and was NOT supposed to be sold or leased but quietly was.
What you are indicating , if true, is quite something. That's significant info. 12K ceiling sounds about right. When ATC in JAX told them to go to 39K, I was astonished. I did not know they were told to go that high.
One of those sad moments in time RIP
I wonder if that’s what happened to at least one of the Malaysia flights?
It’s possible but most investigators believe it was a deliberate crash by the captain.
@@Powerranger-le4up and the other was brought down by a surface to air missile
Is there a flying & also medical expert on here???? I’m wondering do people on planes when that happens do they all pass out at once or could they pass out one at a time?????
Patrick Gray the people died of hypoxia, or lack of oxygen. It affects people differently and at different rates. My husband was the f16 pilot in the video. He had to go to the altitude chamber during training. So I’m sure they died one at a time.
I take it no bodies were recovered. What caused the plane to malfunction? It could have been: human error, design error, manufacturing error, maintenance error.
So sad. Loved Paynes dress class and golf ability..All trainers and nike badges now. Boring!!! RIP... x
I remember this when I was only a kid. I was Hunting in south Dakota in Wolsey South Dakota and Saw it.
What a loss. Sad way to pass away
The Flight Channel has a re-enactment if this crash and in the comments section someone explains the reason this happened.
r.i.p Golf champion
Hard to believe there was no liability to the aircraft owners... But, that's Florida.
Did the plane have a black box?
They had only the CVR and it only records the last 30 minutes and recorded the pressurization warning with no one talking.
Ironic. That small plane left a bigger hole in the ground than the one that crashed on 9/11