@@LordNezghul that's pretty much what I said. Who wouldn't go for it? The fact that they were all part of a scam may or may not have been known to the Minatauro. The game may have been rigged for one of the 430s.
Just a thought. What if that tank booster company is actually run by the devs. They could reset old passwords on old accounts that haven't logged in, in over ten years. And it would explain why they aren't doing anything about it. Makes me wonder!
Nooo way! How could people, who sell you the real cheat mods, proclaim 100% safe ... if they don´t know the code of the "find cheater"-algorythm? Just a thought, you have a good day.
I do believe this is done by wargaming employee, to have like a side hastle. That is why wargaming never do anything about cheating, because they make profit out of it
back in 2011-12 there wasnt such security for accounts and most people used trash passwords, so some experienced hacker has no problem getting onto old accounts
Kellerman, we the average Joe morons who play this game really do appreciate your efforts, Thank you. The reality is: WG doesn't give a single crap. You can have all the evidence, turn in tickets, record videos, do all the investigation work for WG to point out these cheaters and WG response is: "Go pound salt and leave us alone" Anyhow thanks Kellerman and Rock on Sir.
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
@@FOKI5895 Man, these are all fake accounts with one shot damage on severeal battles (or 0). You saw the screenshot of the wot accounts on one monitor, right? And what about driving of minotauro without doubt. Was he so confident because he fired missiles at Ukraine? Dont be ridicolous. Only 26 players in the game because its happening late night. The MM draws anybody at this time, it seems that most of them are human controlled bots. That's how they get into same battle.
I sorted the most recent Tier 10 uploaded replays for "date" rather than damage. The first four replays all have the same cast of characters and the results are exactly the same as the replay you showed today. There's a couple of real players who ended up in the game but the other 27 are the platoons of shooters and the rest are targets to farm that never move. And the non-platooned players on the shooters' team also never move.
Even IF it were a server issue, how did HE know that this had occurred? He ran directly toward the enemy spawn point knowing he wasn't going to get shot. Assuming the other player was not part of the scam, he turned up late to the turkey shoot. He could have watched the mini map, seen the tank park spotted by the hacker and joined in on the fun.
maybe because his team also did not move except the 430U, he also looked back a couple of times when he realized he was alone. But no idea, there are different questions that come up in every scenario
Well done Claus. The prove lies in the fact that the Minotauro drives straight to the enemy base. Anyone else would stop "half way" to see what turns up in front. But he doesnt because he knows..........
I would have driven straight in as well after seeing 13 of my teammates being afk. Nothing suspicious about that especially since the Minotauro is a very good player.
@@Skerrry if he has rigged just 5 % it would still have a huge impact on his stats.. and if he is such a good player.. then why does he have to cheat ? where is the fun and where is the honor in that ?
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
@@FOKI5895 That's actually not outside the realm of the possible, but all the accounts with 0 recent WN8 and 0 average damage in that battle leaves a considerable amount of suspicion of deliberate rigging
I don't think you need support from WG side if you have made/hacked bunch of accounts to run a bot farm. WG should definitely do something about this but there's nothing that points directly at this being supported by WG. So far it seems very organized cheating by players/boosting company.
Yes, but there is money to me made. Ultimately, WG is far too entwined to Russia and Belorus. If they cared, and they don't, they would abandon the Russian Servers.
Things like this are why I've taken a long step away from world of tanks. When wargaming starts cracking down on these cheaters I'll start playing and giving them money again. As of now, the game is trash if this type of thing is being allowed. We'll back to playing cyberpunk or the new Cod. Maybe if the player base drops substantially, wargaming will do something about it.
Astonishing is right. But there are sick individuals who need to validate their existence by posting stats or possessing a rare pixel tank. That's actually rather sad, now that I think about it. Sad, but not forgivable.
This has a strong impact also on our ability to complete the campaign missions where you need to get Mastery Badge 1 or even Ace Tanker. It is either that I have gotten a lot worse, or it really got this much harder to get an Ace Tanker on just about anything.
The enemy team seems to be full of the older branch of tanks. The IS-7, E-100, Death Star, Bct. No Kranvagn, Progetto, Vz etc. Coincidence? Edit: The whole team composition is full of tanks from 2013, 2014. Not just the enemy team
Look at the tier X's . They are all older tanks that have been in the game for a long time. Almost all of them from nations that have been in the game for a years. IS 7s, Jagpnzer E 100. An E 5. No newer tier X's because these are old inactive accounts. Even an 215b I bet was grinded from the tech tree. Claus you need to get Jason Anderson as a guest on the show so we can thank him for his service. 👍
was your profile name always "@leopardone2386"? mine was "free_live_free" until this morning, as far as I'm aware. now it's "@free_live_free-511" is that what you see? looking through this comment sections there's a lot more @something1234s. everyone with an @ has numbers after a name. mine just has the - extra. completely unrelated to the video, yeah. but, google doesn't have a service desk anymore.
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
Wargaming will have a database listing all the inactive accounts that could be 'borrowed' for this. They also have your passwords guys. Always use a unique password or they'll use it to f*ck you over at some point.
Doesn't surprise me - after years of playing it has become obvious that some of the highest placed players in most vehicles have freaking unbelievable ratings and incredible win rates. Rates in the upper 90 percentile and few battles War Gamming doesn't care and I bet there are insiders involved in some manner
LOL you ever have one of those guys with the perfect win rate call you shit I did I was doing a lot of one on one tournament easy way to get gold with out paying but 100% of the time if you challenge them to a one on one they want do it.
When I was playing solo At my peak I was winning 73% battles, playing jgpz 4, jgd panther. Old is4 etc. When I was platooning at my peak with two other guys like me, we were on 97%wr xD But I was old school pro player, 68% wr, non boosted, none fresh account (if you start account once you learn the gamę IT will have better stats) - I only player one account.....
I actually have a theory running that WG puts bots into the game to inflate their player numbers to make the game appear more popular. Obviously this doesn't explain why the tanks did not move at the start, but maybe the server that the bots were running on disconnected.
This is a case where the ~30 or ~50 drone accounts, with the one (ish) boost account all launched simultaneously at a time where there was low server load. Can see this happening on the SA server sometimes. So if you look at the time - 03:16am - this is very early in the morning where these are nothing but ghosts playing. Thus when he launched his T10 game, the server identified a bunch of available T10's - with a good ratio mix of SPG, HT/MT/TD and launched them into the same game. And the 430U's were the only other human players on the team. And then he farmed. WG should not only check THESE accounts for possible fraud, but also the other T10's that were launched at the same time that did not make it into this game - as these would have ruined other games potentially as well...
Exactly, the team composition is such so all types are covered. So they get maximum chance to all get in the same match. This is middle of the night as well. The later you play the more wierd crap you see...
i was in a game like this once, its was scary farming the tanks on cap, then after a min one came to life and killed me. if this was like the game above, the player on my team would want to switch to an opponants tank to get rid of me as i would have been reducing the amount of farm he could do.
I had a server freeze once in tens of thousands of games. Me and one team mate could move and everyone else was frozen. It's INCREDIBLY rare. THen the other details about the accounts....this is rigging and not even trying to hide it.
They must be finding a quiet time on the server to make this happen. I wonder if they are buying up old accounts from players who no longer play or if they have found a stash of passwords somehow to just take them over. There is no way with everything shown here that this is some kind of accident. He knew to start farming right away, anyone who was in such a game that happened by chance would have at least been cautious for a few minutes before realizing the opposing team wasn't moving from the spawn.
Just checked my account that is old and inactive, and guess what, without logging in I have recently played 15 battles! So it is not accounts being sold, it is accounts being hacked or used somehow.
3:16 AM server time 100% tier 10 battle ... virtual machines orchestrating a very interesting result. He'd know watching a second monitor how many of his VMs would have loaded into the same battle and that's really what sealed the fate. By racing immediately from spawn to the other cap, it demonstrated awareness that the other team was comprised almost exclusively of AFKs.
Meaning that they rigged the MM by having not only the garbage accounts that ended up in this battle, but they probably had another 20-30 garbage accounts that ended in other battles... Meaning they might very well have had 100 garbage tanks in the MM at that moment in order to guarantee such result.
NO. As the other person said the battle was played prime time. Meaning that they rigged the MM by having not only the garbage accounts that ended up in this battle, but they probably had another 20-30 garbage accounts that ended in other battles... Meaning they might very well have had 100 garbage tanks in the MM at that moment in order to guarantee such result.
if you look at the 5 minute mark in the video, the game was played at 3 am, so they were able to stack up lots of bot players in one game because server popularion was low. However, there is a significant chance that the minutaro was just an innocent insomniac that accidentally stumbled into a rigged game, but this seems unlikely as he appeared not to be surprised by the mass of afk tanks in the beginning
yes at 3am it is not uncommon on the eu server to get kicked out of the waiting line because there are not enough players online. if i would do shit like that 3am-6am would be the right time on the eu servers for it.
Well you realize that is Tinfoil Hat kind of thinking... but. Because my account is much like the ones shown, started in 2012 and inactive for years I thought I would check it and found that it has been played for 15 battles in the last 60 days. Hmm... where is my tinfoil?
@@hoticeparty what would I screenshot that would be proof? Last game played? I can't prove I didn't play it can I. Wotlabs stats? Again it doesn't prove anything.
Another great revealing video about the underside of this game. To me it is very frustrating, but what bothers me even more is that other TH-camrs are pretty much silent and/or clueless about this. It makes me wonder how long it has been going on, how many players are actually involved, and if this is just overlooked/ignored by WOT? How could WOT and other TH-camrs miss this type of stuff and not know it is going on?
i think all 3 tanks are involved, both 430u fought so it would be harder for the automated system to detect something suspicious, like one team not shooting even one shot. and if the TD guy was alone he wouldn't be able to kill all the afk tanks because he can only do 21,2k dmg, not enough to win the battle
Completely they are, the worst in this is they don't even care. This is sad because this game is great and people will eventualy stop playing it just because WG didn't take action to clean up this type of cheating. They are building a reputation that they allow cheaters in their game. This is the Russian nature and culture, cheat and lie is part of their way of life.
I have not gave War Gaming any of my money for about 8 months. Because of this I will not be buying any Christmas boxes this year. Until this gets adressed "No Dough for you"! Thanks for your hard work and due diligence Claus.
thart only works when other players do the same its a hard thibg fo me to say but wot hasnt been fun in a long time so ill pledge to do the same change will only happen if we hit them whare it hurts and thats the bank account
As if this affects the random player at any significant way. In my last 25k battles I have never been in a battle where any sort of blatant game rigging happened.
I was in a game last week with a platoon of 3 on each side. 1 player in each platoon was playing as "normal". The other 4 did move around however , each and every one of them only fired ONCE and with ZERO damage.
I agree with Matthew. This has to be a crooked war gaming staff member that's giving these accounts away and/or setting this up. How else is this even possible
It appears that the game riggers have "purchased" or "hacked" hundreds of "old" accounts and use them for various "stat improving" purposes. Whatever "loopholes" they have found surely WG could plug. But there appears to be no interest from the WG side to make the game more balanced or fair in this regard. Good detective work Claus, keep it up.
Identifying old, inactive accounts like this would be relatively easy to do, but hacking them all is a different story. Makes you wonder if at least some of these riggers have an inside guy at Wargaming who resets passwords to get them access to use the accounts.
Great work Claus. Please don't stop making this video's. Maybe one day Wargaming will wake up and react correct way. Unbelievable that Wargaming letting them doing this with no consequences. WTF is going on here???!!!
I am wondering if the Obj 430U on his team was an accomplice. Strangely, while Minotauro had his pedal to the metal, getting to the happy hunting grounds, his teammate went straight for the only enemy tank that loaded in with an active player. Did they meet by random chance, or did both of our teammates have the enemy's eye view as well. Like Object was there to keep anyone spawning on the enemy team from interfering.
@@domberry1502 He would have gone straight like the cheater... Also, if u assume he was there to farm like the Minotauro, then why would he risk being killed by the other non-bot enemy tank... If you have a few brain cells and think of what I wrote you would agree with me. No offense. On the other side, it makes no sense that he was there to prevent the enemy 430u farming his bot team...because why would he care as long as he or his friend did his farming.
WoT is an old game and has run it's course , going down hill now. So WG is letting people do anything and get away with anything, just to get those last few $$$ out of it. Thanks for your efforts Kellerman, Rock on man. 🤘😎
It's always been that way......from day 1 it's been like playing blackjack where the dealer knows that cards you have and can choose to bust you or allow you to win. I knew this after playing for a month. All the deniers in the forums are just rolls paid for by WOT. Those are the __cks that will fall into a lake and deny they are wet.
@@hoticeparty First thing you have to realize: they are Russian. That explains everything. They have 10 million registered players in North America and yet only 100,000 are active on any given week.
Tanks for the coffee Claus. Nice investigative video. I have seen mass disconnection. But I wonder if Wargaming sold those old accounts? They must've been abandoned or purchased individually, in order to be used all this time later.
I'm with you Claus, there are no words. The odds are beyond astronomical that this was anything else BUT cheating!! Please stick with it Claus, Wargaming AND the greater WOT community has to take notice eventually and take ACTION!
Hello Claus. Greetings from UK. I'm a Romanian WOT player, living in UK . This thing with rigging just show up relatively recently in the attention ,and this thanks to people like you and others which HOPELESS tries to change the mentality of WOT board of directors. I personally participated in this kind of activity, and i rigged the game, trying to help our commander from a Romanian clan of which i was part at that time, to get on the missions forT22 medium tank. And that it happened around 6-7 years ago, or even more. When T22 was for the first time released to be earn on mission. We use to do exactly same shit that you see today, in the rigging replays that you receive. I was at the beginning in game, but the guys doing this seams to have lots of experience in rigging, so maybe they was doing this from some long time, before i get in game. The difference is only one : we was doing this in small groups, to "help" a friend, or in my personal situation a commander. But now this shit is so much better organize and became profitable business. I do not try to excuse me, i was aware that i break the game rules, but after a few rounds i quit doing this just because i realise that the guy i help( clan commander) do not really appreciate , he just use as. My good faith was cheated, i was thinking that i help a friend, but he don't give a shit about our efforts. That few rigged games was the first and last i take part. Unlike now ,that times was really risky to do that ,because we know and see accounts from our clan banned by WOT for 1 month or even 6 months, after someone send the replay with rigging game to WOT. This days nobody care. In my opinion WOT is a lost cause, and from MANY reasons, not just rigging. Now i only play when i have nothing better to do with my time, and i stop spending any kind of money for game from 3-4 years ago. I really believe that is the ONLY WAY to force WOT directors to change them mentality. When money will stop come in game then they will start care and listen about the problem in game. Till than.......like i say HOPELESS. Good luck with your channel. Sorry for my spelling and any nonsense ,English is not my first language
Thank you for your honesty. If I was in a cool clan, I would also feel pressured to help (to cheat) my commander in this way if he said that it was a requirement of staying in the clan. Maybe you learned at that point that the commander was an ARSEHOLE, and the clan was a sack of corrupt sh*t. Which clan was this please? Do you still play with them? Do not get yourself into trouble. I'll be honest too - One of my previous clans (EU server TDU Clan, also links with WJDE Clan) had a current member participating in a recent cheating rigging battle. I felt ashamed of them, but they kicked me out years ago when I was inactive for a year. Ah well, f*ck 'em. Live long and prosper my friend. Your English is very good, I understand every word.
There are other things going on in these games, I understand that you can get preferential matchmaking if you are the RIGHT PLAYER. This was droped recently in a stremed game game by a game influencer.
I am with you and thanks Claus. I am starting to post daily on WG Facebook page, the reasons why I refuse to put any more money into this game until the situation is fixed. They understand bad publicity and money. If other players went after WG on their social media, it would probably help to get a fix started sooner rather than later.
I'd like to see an IN-GAME protest too Don't use any consumables, no gold ammo, no training booklets, no bonds, no Directives, maybe only tech-tree units I don't claim to understand the monetization of the game, BUT... I know what they are trying to get us to spend RW currency on. If we play the game without rendering any of those items necessary, then it will let them know we are pissed off, right? Claus, maybe you and Quickybaby could organize such a boycott?
@@CrownTown10 And, up to now, all the money has already been given and converted into pixel currency, pixel tanks, pixel consumables etc. The damage is done, and I'll put it this way - many players may never have heard of Claus Kellerman! So, go into the game and raise awareness yourself. Point General Chat in the direction of Claus' video. I successfully did this all day yesterday and it was more satisfying than actually playing. Don't spam, but do slow spam. Also, chat with anyone that challenges the slow spam, or doubts Claus. As we know, anyone's opinion can be misinformed and there are many WoT 'fanboys', myself included, but this video here is EVIDENCE OF FRAUD!
Claus, this is all so simple. the cheaters/boosters are running 30+ virtualized Windows OS that has all their bot accounts, they load them up and put them into the Queue at the same time, and if they end up in the same game, they can just disconnect all of them and only leave the account running that gets the boosting....
Claus.. TOTALLY AGREE with you.. this is not a SERVER PROBLEM. The cheaters have hacked WG servers and hi-jacked inactive account.. to then use for their business. It could be WG itself.. using guys from the inside. How else to explain it?
Claus, check the time when this battle took place: 03:16. That's night time, when the server population is the lowest. I would assume it's easy to arrange something like this to happen at that time. It may also be possible that all these players are once again - the accounts that didn't make it into the battle that had the boosted account. So not necessarily the Minotauro player is at fault here.
Thanks Klaus, good work as always. I have no faith in WG fixing this, maybe their thinking is look if we ban this account he’s just going to use or open another one ? Maybe we all have to be less precious about our stats? Maybe the way forward is to remove stats from the game altogether? We each of us know if we’ve had a good or a bad game, isn’t that enough? Do we Need to know what colour we play at ? It took years to get the team kill removed and that was the only way to stop the as# holes? WG didn’t remove the accounts back then either at most they blocked a few for a week or so and they had other accounts ready to go if that happened! Players games were ruined until team damage was stopped and you were instrumental in helping this happen. Would love to hear your thoughts on how to STOP the cheaters, the more scenarios I run through in my head the more elusive the answer?
They used to do this in world of war craft. These websites that offer services break into abandoned accounts and take them over. Back then, they basically drained the accounts of valuables and probably did some other nefarious things too. In WOT, the take over abandoned accounts to use for boosting. One of the things they offer is marks of excellence. Pretty easy to get marks when you can farm in the way you showed. It's not a user multiboxing alla 2003. It's these companies using abandoned accounts to boost paying customers.
It's not just a disconnection. If the client can't connect to the game, noting happens. But ALL the barrels dropped. That can only happen, if the clients connect successfully to the server.
The game was played at 3 AM, and getting a tier 10 queue and that time takes very long. They queued all together and that's why there were those mediums who had no clue what was going on, the rest of them were just accounts for farming to mino. - these battles happend in the past aswell, i remember few replays
yes at 3am it is not uncommon on the eu server to get kicked out of the waiting line because there are not enough players online. if i would do shit like that 3am-6am would be the right time on the eu servers for it.
This explains why almost every game has inactive players in it which are fall offs from the account farms trying to get in the same game. WG needs to take the reporting mechanic in game more seriously when we report inactive/bot and start giving warnings out then ban them. I would be interested in the response you would get Claus if you reached out to WG for a comment on this.
First! - Since I've been watching the cheating videos you guys have been putting out it's been hard to want to play the game. The game in this video Wargaming needs to explain what happened.
I now log in just to slow-spam chat with instructions to watch this video. It's interesting to interact with the naysayers (WARGAMING MODERATORS???) and positive people who go to take a look and then report back. One player even started spamming my instructions too (good old copy and paste) in solidarity. I did this all day yesterday and didn't play a single battle.
I had a game yesterday with 6 people who didn't move from the cap and did 0 dmg. Unfortunately, it wasn't recorded, but i wasn't the only one who said something about it.
I assume the software he uses presses battle at exactly the same time for all the accounts, which increases the chances of getting the same battle. The alternative is worse, that WG are in on it and accept money.
Thanks Claus for the great video, similar thing happened to me last night on NA servers 7 afk tanks on my team lol, what a good direction Wargaming is going in if they want to lose their player base.
Been busting my arse since 2013 to be a good player....former tanker. It appears that if your not a " VIP " in WOT....the MATCH MAKER just dangles carrots for you, meaning yeah you get on a roll but then loss after loss after loss.....I've take 2 months off and may never return thanks to "CHIT" like this.....thanks for all your hard work and vids.......
In World of warships I believe there are "player " accounts that are actually bots / ghosts created by wargaming to fill places within games . If there is a way to trigger dead / ghost accounts that certainly throws out there some clever ways to fix games. Now if some of them are employees or ex employees with the ability to abuse server privileges withing WG then they are playing us harder than we are playing their games.
Nice Job Klaus. This rigging must end. I think there should be some autorecord of the replay files directly to WG servers after each battle, then each replay to be tested by some auto filtering systems to find some markers like many tanks with zero damage etc. And inf some of these replays is found it should be sent for another investigation. Other replays can be deleted.... Some system like this would cost something, but it would bring big benefit keeping the game almost rigging free
I wish I was more confident that Wargaming would do something about this. Sadly, I doubt it. Thanks for the videos Claus, keep up the great work. Also curious to me is that the replay appears to be uploaded by the guy that did all the damage?
@@domberry1502 He knew they were all inactive from the way he was driving. No caution, just zoomed right through the center without poking corners carefully. Pretty sure he's in on it...
Dakillzor had riggers on his stream and checked that in the first Minute. He blocked the shots with his JPZ and he kill the rigging Obj. 140 with blindshots. Hillarious! The TH-cam Video is from today on Dakillzors Channel.
@Claus Kellerman Here are WG's fixes: 1. Eliminate the availability/refresh of statistics data to aggregating websites therefore we no longer can look up the Booster accounts. 2. Strip replays of real player names thus ensuring true anonymity. We all know how they bungled the T-22 rigging, then gave them complete anonymity by selling the tank.
Claus I have had to many games where you have 4 or 5 tanks on your team that do 0 damage. Even in the last week I have seen players complaining about massive losing streaks. I used to think I was average but the last 2 weeks haven’t had a winning day. Day after day of 8 and 20 streaks. It just seems funny with all the complaints and my past experience that you can’t think something is going on with WG.
Yep I also play a lot less since a while , the last time I played I get into lost battles game after game. I had 9 loss in a row and almost every game didnt last longer then 4 minutes , it surely isnt because of my play. I dont have a lot fun playing the game like that so thats why I dont play on a regular base anymore. I used to be a 52.5% winrate player , but it already went down to almost 50% again. And it doesnt make any difference if I pick a tank that In normally do very well in , I just keep losing game after game 😂 such a joke.
Great work Claus, had a thought. These game rigging individuals for ever how long they have done this, are affecting the numbers in the game. But. WG has them also affecting the way the " Buffs and Nerfs" are done by these numbers they see from the games. It's just a thought
More than likely that is in fact going down the fact that these cheaters are going out and doing different things and rigging games is making it harder for people that don't cheat to get marks and everything else hell I feel like when I'm playing solo my teammates are enemies like they're only there to keep me from winning it's sad because the only agenda on anyone's mind is ( Do Damage ) without taking any risks Console Player Edit: What happened to trying to win the games?
How do the game riggers get access to so many 10 year old accounts without the help of someone in War Gaming? Raptor Boost is also buying commercial time during Claus' videos lately. Is a former or current WG employee involved in this? The fact that these ancient accounts are being reactivated is astonishing. Or are they new accounts that are only listed as old accounts. Inside access to the EG system looks to be happening here.
Maybe there is a function in the game that allows someone with access to it, to use accounts without informing XVM of any change to the account stats. I dunno how feasible that would be. Does WG and XVM collaborate? Clearly they do, but what kinds of collaboration are going on?
Hi Claus, I'm an attorney here in the USA N/A server. I and several of my associates are going to closely look into this game rigging that we suspect is mostly being perpetrated by Wargaming and former Wargaming executives and engineers. We have investigative resources here that you don't have. I and many of my colleagues have been playing this game for many years. We too have questioned the honesty of Wargaming and there business model in recent years. Now that you Claus have exposed this deception. We are seriously contemplating putting together a "Class Action" law suit. We are very serious about this. Imagine the enormity of this deception. It's mind boggling almost incomprehensible. I will keep you posted concerning our endeavor to expose the criminals. Thanks Claus you are an amazing human being. 😎
Hi Claus, another great piece of investigation. I have read most of the comments and a few point out that all the tanks are old long established tanks, there was no new tanks from the last few years and all the camo was the old stuff as well. Only one conclusion - An employee with access to accounts is supplying old abandoned account details to rigging firms, obviously for under the counter payments. I will be watching my games very carefully from now on.
Actually one of the inactive tanks had the Arnold Schwarzenegger black, red and white camo, which was released for his christmas special. Was that last year or the year before? I forget.
It used to be the case that. when a player was disconnected, that player was greyed out in the team panel. None of these players were greyed out so it looks like it was not some sort of multiple disconnect. WOW!
Sounds like the game rigging started quite a while ago and wargaming doesn't want to do anything about it. Could wargaming be responsible for the game rigging to make up for the money that the game is losing because of player base dwindling? Makes on ponder.
Considering how Wargaming already sells things I doubt they'd side venture this kind of thing for a low profit. They'd just straight sell free experience.
Sadly I don’t think Wargaming cares about this sort of cheating anymore. As long as the wallet warriors and noobs continue to use mommy and daddy’s credit cards to fuel the game’s money train, nothing will be done about this. If Wargaming was actually serious about stopping these sort of occurrences, measures would’ve been put in place years ago. I’m a WoT Console veteran of 7+ years (so I don’t think a cheating scandal of this magnitude is possible on Console given its limitations) but this video was still shocking to me.
WG will only react if someone slaps their wallet or if there is a sudden decrease in cash flow. In all other cases it is as Robert Flint said: "WG response is: Go pound salt and leave us alone". Even so, I hope that what you are doing, Claus, will not go unnoticed. Thank you for this, Claus, I hope the stupid windmills from WG start working.
I do not believe this is a random drop, which means that someone or more at wargaming is in on this. Someone is making extra cash. He affected more than the two ( innocent) players. As you pointed out the bar is raised for MoE.
In the ultimate irony, I was forced to watch a “Team Raptor” account boosting advert in the middle of this Video. Gotta wonder about TH-cam’s algorithm.
There is the prof, that WOT employees, are seizing unused accounts, and making bank, having done so. You will see nothing done to stop it ! I have sent your videos on this to Wargaming, (tickets) and 5 argumentative responses from Wargaming, have sealed it for me.
They were all connected, at least his teammates were. The game knows when someone is disconnected and eliminates that tank once the game ends, you will see "X was lost in battle" on the disconnected people. This shows up even in the postgame stats and replay as a destroyed tank, yet all his teammates survived. The average afk rate in wot is around one per battle, meaning 1 out of 30 or 3,3%. So the chance that his 13 teammates are connected, yet afk is around 6,3x10^-20%, or 0,063 attopercent (trillionth of a percent). This is 4348772 billion times less likely than an asteroid wiping earth tomorrow. You are welcome.
gj man, i never noticed that afk tank would be marked as lost in battle or destroyed tank,then this is 100% rigged. Gj wg cunts for allowing this. like im going to put more money into your shitshow!!!!
Keep up the great work Claus. I hope WG gets their shit together and does something about the lack of integrity in the game (but Im not holding my breath).
My guess (which a lot of others have mentioned) is that some WG employees have the account credentials database. They just flagged any 10+ year old accounts not recently active and sold them to (very likely their own) boosting companies. Unfortunately, this is ruining a very nice game.
Claus - sounds to me like someone on the "inside" at Wargaming (with systems access) has accessed inactive accounts and used them to "set up" a Rigged game. How else could the Match Making you outlined have occured??????? Some of the inactive accounts just happened to turn up on the same day? And ended up in the same game? Statistically impossible would be my guess.
WG is complicit, either by their actions or non action. I just feel sorry for the enemy 430, he could have had a monster farm if he'd gone down the other flank, though he probably wouldn't want this S**T S**W on his conscience!
Great job Claus, if there’s all this evidence that you and other people are bringing to public attention why isn’t Wargaming doing anything about ? ? ?
Because they don't give a shit. That's why I'm selling all my Tree Tanks and start playing only with premium ones (Bonds). More credits for me and no my real money for WG fuckers
Clause, I would suggest that the only way for anyone to get ahold of these old accounts with passwords to use them are getting help from WG'ing themselves.
My guess, someone who has access to dormant/inactive/abandoned accounts....and was able to set up a battle. Not sure how they can all drop into the same battle simultaneously, but I'm sure with some effort and help it can be done...thanks Klaus, but yet again another reason I don't play the game anymore.
@@matiasmaensivu7723 I don't really know, but it was very unusual to say the least. In hind sight, I should have kept the post game stats and the replay to check, it also happened 2 games in a row. There were only me and three other players that were driving around and farming, it didn't take long to realise that something was wrong.
@@matiasmaensivu7723 Matias, Sgntbilco is simply telling us of his experience, not his opinion of how it happened to him. Watch the video again, all the way until the end. If your English is not good, you may not understand it all. No offence intended my friend.
@@sgntbilco so did you give money to wg employee to get it happen? :D Its just a glitch. And it happening to random players confirms it. Just like the mino, if you see your own team afk, doesnt take a genius to drive straight to the dmg farm heaven. No idea why in this video they think its some rigging thing to drive straight to enemy spawn
Yesterday I played a game where like 4 of my team was bots.. so I don't think we were supposed to win, but my team had compatant players so we almost won, but when we had 4 left on my team and 3 on their team the game started glitching out for everybody on my team... and we lost
@@domberry1502 Its like when you push forward for one second, then it freezes for a couple seconds, then you are in the middle of the field, nowhere around the spot you wanted to go.. I thought it was maybe just mine but other people on my team were saying it started messing up for them too,, lol
Keep after them Claus!! Keep the pressure on War Gaming. Even if they stop this. The damage has been done to game stats. Thoughts on how this could be fixed?
I saw some simulare on a video QB was showing, dont remember if it was QB it self that was playing or if it was a replay sent to him, but at that time it was a server glitch and mid trough farming the enemy team started to move and shooting back.
Hi Klaus, a german TH-camr „Ohare“ has commented this game 8 days ago. Hi hasn‘t check the hole problem. But he clued this game was on server EU4, this is the „migration“-server vor russians since the war in Ukraine. Maybe this connects also to other riggings.
You would think community contributors would want to get cheating stopped and act together to do something about it. After all, cheating is bad for WOT and bad for them, as they promote the game. QB brought it to our attention. Claus picked it up and ran with it. I don't watch other contributors. Have they featured cheating at all and given their views on it?
That’s not possible. All they need is an empty server during certain hours (EU4) and queue 30/40 accounts same time. From time to time this will happen
Claus, this work is heroic. It by the end means, that WG is collecting money from us and allows deception, which also means, they betray us for spending our money in this game. I wonder whether this could lead to suing them. In this case it would pose a threat for them which should lead to prevent game rigging on their servers. Please, keep posting these issues and folks keep sendig this to Claus. THX!
@@blowbert9126 You are correct, nobody of us noobs would do this. The point is, it could cause a threat in a SWOT analysis, leading to do something against this rigging. For this reason it is of huge importance that our community contributors keep posting these issues.
He knew they were sitting ducks right from the beginning. Nobody would otherwise just drive straight to them without a worry.
this
In theory if you notice that almost everyone doesn't move in your team you can assume that same thing happen in enemy team.
That's a really good point! Other two players went to play as usual, he just went for it, no caution, no pauses, no nothing. Straight to other spawn.
@@LordNezghul that's pretty much what I said. Who wouldn't go for it? The fact that they were all part of a scam may or may not have been known to the Minatauro. The game may have been rigged for one of the 430s.
Who uploaded the reply?
Just a thought.
What if that tank booster company is actually run by the devs. They could reset old passwords on old accounts that haven't logged in, in over ten years. And it would explain why they aren't doing anything about it. Makes me wonder!
Nooo way! How could people, who sell you the real cheat mods, proclaim 100% safe ... if they don´t know the code of the "find cheater"-algorythm?
Just a thought, you have a good day.
I do believe this is done by wargaming employee, to have like a side hastle. That is why wargaming never do anything about cheating, because they make profit out of it
Yes you beat me to this idea, good job and good luck out there
back in 2011-12 there wasnt such security for accounts and most people used trash passwords, so some experienced hacker has no problem getting onto old accounts
There is a website where you can sell your account, maybe there are clans out there buying them up by the bunch.
Kellerman, we the average Joe morons who play this game really do appreciate your efforts, Thank you. The reality is: WG doesn't give a single crap. You can have all the evidence, turn in tickets, record videos, do all the investigation work for WG to point out these cheaters and WG response is: "Go pound salt and leave us alone" Anyhow thanks Kellerman and Rock on Sir.
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
lol
@@FOKI5895 Yes, right.
@@FOKI5895 Interesting.
@@FOKI5895 Man, these are all fake accounts with one shot damage on severeal battles (or 0).
You saw the screenshot of the wot accounts on one monitor, right?
And what about driving of minotauro without doubt.
Was he so confident because he fired missiles at Ukraine?
Dont be ridicolous.
Only 26 players in the game because its happening late night. The MM draws anybody at this time, it seems that most of them are human controlled bots. That's how they get into same battle.
I sorted the most recent Tier 10 uploaded replays for "date" rather than damage. The first four replays all have the same cast of characters and the results are exactly the same as the replay you showed today. There's a couple of real players who ended up in the game but the other 27 are the platoons of shooters and the rest are targets to farm that never move. And the non-platooned players on the shooters' team also never move.
Even IF it were a server issue, how did HE know that this had occurred? He ran directly toward the enemy spawn point knowing he wasn't going to get shot. Assuming the other player was not part of the scam, he turned up late to the turkey shoot. He could have watched the mini map, seen the tank park spotted by the hacker and joined in on the fun.
maybe because his team also did not move except the 430U, he also looked back a couple of times when he realized he was alone.
But no idea, there are different questions that come up in every scenario
They make fake it in one game, but no one is patient enough to fake it for longer time ...
Well done Claus. The prove lies in the fact that the Minotauro drives straight to the enemy base. Anyone else would stop "half way" to see what turns up in front. But he doesnt because he knows..........
I would have driven straight in as well after seeing 13 of my teammates being afk. Nothing suspicious about that especially since the Minotauro is a very good player.
Mr Mouth Kellerman...lost for wirds?!?!?!?!
WOW!!
@@Skerrry If i could rig all my battles like he just did i would be a unicum as well...
@@Mango.1971 As if he has rigged all of his 67k battles lol
@@Skerrry if he has rigged just 5 % it would still have a huge impact on his stats.. and if he is such a good player.. then why does he have to cheat ? where is the fun and where is the honor in that ?
Well done Clause , This couldn't happen without the help of WG employees working with these cheat companies,
No doubt.
totally agree its infested
Someone with access to login credentials would definitely make it possible.
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
@@FOKI5895 That's actually not outside the realm of the possible, but all the accounts with 0 recent WN8 and 0 average damage in that battle leaves a considerable amount of suspicion of deliberate rigging
I don't think you need support from WG side if you have made/hacked bunch of accounts to run a bot farm.
WG should definitely do something about this but there's nothing that points directly at this being supported by WG. So far it seems very organized cheating by players/boosting company.
Astonishing lengths these people go to - for a pixel award in a pixel game, and presumably wasted real money on it. Incroyable!
I think people are becoming more and more like robot cattle.
It suits our masters
Yes, but there is money to me made. Ultimately, WG is far too entwined to Russia and Belorus. If they cared, and they don't, they would abandon the Russian Servers.
Things like this are why I've taken a long step away from world of tanks. When wargaming starts cracking down on these cheaters I'll start playing and giving them money again. As of now, the game is trash if this type of thing is being allowed. We'll back to playing cyberpunk or the new Cod. Maybe if the player base drops substantially, wargaming will do something about it.
Astonishing is right. But there are sick individuals who need to validate their existence by posting stats or possessing a rare pixel tank. That's actually rather sad, now that I think about it. Sad, but not forgivable.
As you stated in the beginning, he went right to the tanks. If this was a "Disconnect" he would not know to do that. 100% Obvious.
he knew because his teammates werent moving
This has a strong impact also on our ability to complete the campaign missions where you need to get Mastery Badge 1 or even Ace Tanker.
It is either that I have gotten a lot worse, or it really got this much harder to get an Ace Tanker on just about anything.
My objective is literally just to have fun and collect Ace Tankers. This is achieveable as a free-to-play player, but you have to be patient.
These events are so astronomically rare that they don't affect things like ace tanker requirements in any meaningful way.
The enemy team seems to be full of the older branch of tanks. The IS-7, E-100, Death Star, Bct. No Kranvagn, Progetto, Vz etc. Coincidence?
Edit: The whole team composition is full of tanks from 2013, 2014. Not just the enemy team
Look at the camo they all use
They probably hacking old abandoned accounts
@@jbortego Maybe WG employees r involved
there is a progetto you schizo
@@panicdispenser6586 Very good Watson you are on the right track.
Look at the tier X's . They are all older tanks that have been in the game for a long time. Almost all of them from nations that have been in the game for a years. IS 7s, Jagpnzer E 100. An E 5. No newer tier X's because these are old inactive accounts. Even an 215b I bet was grinded from the tech tree.
Claus you need to get Jason Anderson as a guest on the show so we can thank him for his service. 👍
was your profile name always "@leopardone2386"? mine was "free_live_free" until this morning, as far as I'm aware. now it's "@free_live_free-511"
is that what you see? looking through this comment sections there's a lot more @something1234s. everyone with an @ has numbers after a name. mine just has the - extra.
completely unrelated to the video, yeah. but, google doesn't have a service desk anymore.
I have a possible explanation. All of the players accounts are made in the years WoT was at its peak and seem pretty normal except for the recent performace. The player here is in a clan that is a Ukranian clan. All of the accounts seem to have ukranian or russian names. The server this game was on is used by players from that region. And the date and time of this game 2022-11-09 03:16 corresponds to a Russian shelling in Ukraine that caused a massive blackout in East Ukraine on this day. The recent games of these players with 0 damage are probably them trying to play the game and getting disconnected like in this game, because of the power grid issues.
Wargaming will have a database listing all the inactive accounts that could be
'borrowed' for this. They also have your passwords guys. Always use a unique password or they'll use it to f*ck you over at some point.
@@FOKI5895 lol, open your eyes you muppet
That's what I said!
Doesn't surprise me - after years of playing it has become obvious that some of the highest placed players in most vehicles have freaking unbelievable ratings and incredible win rates. Rates in the upper 90 percentile and few battles
War Gamming doesn't care and I bet there are insiders involved in some manner
LOL you ever have one of those guys with the perfect win rate
call you shit I did I was doing a lot of one on one tournament easy way to get gold with out paying but 100% of the time if you challenge them to a one on one they want do it.
When I was playing solo At my peak I was winning 73% battles, playing jgpz 4, jgd panther. Old is4 etc.
When I was platooning at my peak with two other guys like me, we were on 97%wr xD
But I was old school pro player, 68% wr, non boosted, none fresh account (if you start account once you learn the gamę IT will have better stats) - I only player one account.....
I actually have a theory running that WG puts bots into the game to inflate their player numbers to make the game appear more popular. Obviously this doesn't explain why the tanks did not move at the start, but maybe the server that the bots were running on disconnected.
This is a case where the ~30 or ~50 drone accounts, with the one (ish) boost account all launched simultaneously at a time where there was low server load. Can see this happening on the SA server sometimes. So if you look at the time - 03:16am - this is very early in the morning where these are nothing but ghosts playing. Thus when he launched his T10 game, the server identified a bunch of available T10's - with a good ratio mix of SPG, HT/MT/TD and launched them into the same game. And the 430U's were the only other human players on the team. And then he farmed. WG should not only check THESE accounts for possible fraud, but also the other T10's that were launched at the same time that did not make it into this game - as these would have ruined other games potentially as well...
Spot on assessment.
Exactly, the team composition is such so all types are covered. So they get maximum chance to all get in the same match. This is middle of the night as well. The later you play the more wierd crap you see...
Who's game would he have ruined if nobody is on playing?
How wargaming gonna check himself??? Eyes to see...
i was in a game like this once, its was scary farming the tanks on cap, then after a min one came to life and killed me. if this was like the game above, the player on my team would want to switch to an opponants tank to get rid of me as i would have been reducing the amount of farm he could do.
same thing with me, I was just explaining it to my wife. lol
Daki just put up a vid, where he caught some riggers and blocked them from farming damage. Pretty cool.
I had a server freeze once in tens of thousands of games. Me and one team mate could move and everyone else was frozen. It's INCREDIBLY rare. THen the other details about the accounts....this is rigging and not even trying to hide it.
Yeah, but did you drive straight to their spawn knowing what was going on?
They must be finding a quiet time on the server to make this happen. I wonder if they are buying up old accounts from players who no longer play or if they have found a stash of passwords somehow to just take them over. There is no way with everything shown here that this is some kind of accident. He knew to start farming right away, anyone who was in such a game that happened by chance would have at least been cautious for a few minutes before realizing the opposing team wasn't moving from the spawn.
Game time was 3:16 am
It's someone in war gaming pulling old accounts thru their recovery tool and selling them to game riggers site's.
Just checked my account that is old and inactive, and guess what, without logging in I have recently played 15 battles! So it is not accounts being sold, it is accounts being hacked or used somehow.
Same here, haven't played for a long time, and checked my account and last 24h i have had 6 really bad games. Some weird shit is going on in WG
Good point mate as I think it's possible to sell accounts and this was something that went on in South America on console a lot.
Love how Claus dodged saying, "69," by saying "close to zero."
Well done, sir.
If Claus doesn't like a 69, he's missing out! However, he does want to make a serious video, he's not joking around this time :)
3:16 AM server time 100% tier 10 battle ... virtual machines orchestrating a very interesting result. He'd know watching a second monitor how many of his VMs would have loaded into the same battle and that's really what sealed the fate. By racing immediately from spawn to the other cap, it demonstrated awareness that the other team was comprised almost exclusively of AFKs.
Meaning that they rigged the MM by having not only the garbage accounts that ended up in this battle, but they probably had another 20-30 garbage accounts that ended in other battles... Meaning they might very well have had 100 garbage tanks in the MM at that moment in order to guarantee such result.
Server time at 03:00 in the middle of the week. Totaly agree that this ist No coincidence
Look at when they played 3.16 am on EU4 server. They knew that at that time the odds were great that they could fix the matchmaker.
This replay was uploaded at 3.16 am,The game was at 18 36 pm
NO. As the other person said the battle was played prime time. Meaning that they rigged the MM by having not only the garbage accounts that ended up in this battle, but they probably had another 20-30 garbage accounts that ended in other battles... Meaning they might very well have had 100 garbage tanks in the MM at that moment in order to guarantee such result.
if you look at the 5 minute mark in the video, the game was played at 3 am, so they were able to stack up lots of bot players in one game because server popularion was low. However, there is a significant chance that the minutaro was just an innocent insomniac that accidentally stumbled into a rigged game, but this seems unlikely as he appeared not to be surprised by the mass of afk tanks in the beginning
Bots are always marked as bots by WG, so that every player knows that it is an AI. These were all real accounts...
yes at 3am it is not uncommon on the eu server to get kicked out of the waiting line because there are not enough players online. if i would do shit like that 3am-6am would be the right time on the eu servers for it.
@@olafolafson7466 not actual wg bots, just accounts that sat there doing nothing on purpose
Mate that Minutaro new what was happening.. NO ONE drives STAIGHT through that town to the other side spawn without stopping!!
@@1ytcommenter If a rigger was to spam 30 accounts into the matchmaker at that time... Hey Presto! Instant Battle! Maybe.
Wargaming or former Wargaming employees are in on this. Period.
Well you realize that is Tinfoil Hat kind of thinking... but. Because my account is much like the ones shown, started in 2012 and inactive for years I thought I would check it and found that it has been played for 15 battles in the last 60 days. Hmm... where is my tinfoil?
lol I doubt that its just some random players
@@jimjohnson3432 screenshot it and upload the proof somewhere if that's true, that info could help.
@@hoticeparty what would I screenshot that would be proof? Last game played? I can't prove I didn't play it can I. Wotlabs stats? Again it doesn't prove anything.
Another great revealing video about the underside of this game. To me it is very frustrating, but what bothers me even more is that other TH-camrs are pretty much silent and/or clueless about this. It makes me wonder how long it has been going on, how many players are actually involved, and if this is just overlooked/ignored by WOT? How could WOT and other TH-camrs miss this type of stuff and not know it is going on?
They will know now, if they watch Claus or if Claus fans urge them to watch :)
i think all 3 tanks are involved, both 430u fought so it would be harder for the automated system to detect something suspicious, like one team not shooting even one shot. and if the TD guy was alone he wouldn't be able to kill all the afk tanks because he can only do 21,2k dmg, not enough to win the battle
Nah, there is no automated system that detects shit. No need to kill all, he could just have capped to win the game in the end.
Wondering...... What if WG emplyees also have a hand in this?
this implies that WG is complicit in the rigging
Completely they are, the worst in this is they don't even care. This is sad because this game is great and people will eventualy stop playing it just because WG didn't take action to clean up this type of cheating. They are building a reputation that they allow cheaters in their game. This is the Russian nature and culture, cheat and lie is part of their way of life.
@@sergech764 well, they do care about the russian servers. Atleast they did care, now they don't care at all cuz they don't own RU anymore
I have not gave War Gaming any of my money for about 8 months. Because of this I will not be buying any Christmas boxes this year. Until this gets adressed "No Dough for you"! Thanks for your hard work and due diligence Claus.
That is the way :D
thart only works when other players do the same its a hard thibg fo me to say but wot hasnt been fun in a long time so ill pledge to do the same change will only happen if we hit them whare it hurts and thats the bank account
As if this affects the random player at any significant way. In my last 25k battles I have never been in a battle where any sort of blatant game rigging happened.
@@Skerrry No, You are just ignorant to the facts.
@@sisyphus9252 Okay educate me. What are the facts that I'm missing?
Really appreciate your effort!!! No way it's no rigged, and no way WG doesn't know about this!!! Thanks again Claus 🍀🍻🍻🍻
I was in a game last week with a platoon of 3 on each side. 1 player in each platoon was playing as "normal". The other 4 did move around however , each and every one of them only fired ONCE and with ZERO damage.
I agree with Matthew. This has to be a crooked war gaming staff member that's giving these accounts away and/or setting this up. How else is this even possible
or WOT management knows this, and is getting kickbacks from the boosting companies. Just look at how the game is run.....
i would say its more than just a staff member
ty claus for doing this. we need to answear the question of why other CC-s dont talk about this. that is inportant.
It appears that the game riggers have "purchased" or "hacked" hundreds of "old" accounts and use them for various "stat improving" purposes. Whatever "loopholes" they have found surely WG could plug. But there appears to be no interest from the WG side to make the game more balanced or fair in this regard. Good detective work Claus, keep it up.
Identifying old, inactive accounts like this would be relatively easy to do, but hacking them all is a different story. Makes you wonder if at least some of these riggers have an inside guy at Wargaming who resets passwords to get them access to use the accounts.
I wonder if these were accounts flagged for using illegal mods.
WG is a dying game. Period The numbers don't lie. They are just trying to milk it for all it's worth before it just implodes.
Great work Claus. Please don't stop making this video's. Maybe one day Wargaming will wake up and react correct way.
Unbelievable that Wargaming letting them doing this with no consequences. WTF is going on here???!!!
Wargaming did this.
Man, wargaming never gonna correct those things, cause are working in the way that they developed the game...
I am wondering if the Obj 430U on his team was an accomplice. Strangely, while Minotauro had his pedal to the metal, getting to the happy hunting grounds, his teammate went straight for the only enemy tank that loaded in with an active player. Did they meet by random chance, or did both of our teammates have the enemy's eye view as well. Like Object was there to keep anyone spawning on the enemy team from interfering.
NO.
@@roberthak3695 How are you so sure? What do you know?
@@domberry1502 He would have gone straight like the cheater... Also, if u assume he was there to farm like the Minotauro, then why would he risk being killed by the other non-bot enemy tank... If you have a few brain cells and think of what I wrote you would agree with me. No offense.
On the other side, it makes no sense that he was there to prevent the enemy 430u farming his bot team...because why would he care as long as he or his friend did his farming.
WoT is an old game and has run it's course , going down hill now. So WG is letting people do anything and get away with anything, just to get those last few $$$ out of it. Thanks for your efforts Kellerman, Rock on man. 🤘😎
It's always been that way......from day 1 it's been like playing blackjack where the dealer knows that cards you have and can choose to bust you or allow you to win. I knew this after playing for a month.
All the deniers in the forums are just rolls paid for by WOT. Those are the __cks that will fall into a lake and deny they are wet.
Weird since this game could last way longer and generate more money idk why they are killing it for such temporary gain
@@hoticeparty Well Viktor Kislyi got at least 2 billion usd on his bank account. so why should he bother? just living the easy oligarch live.
@@hoticeparty First thing you have to realize: they are Russian. That explains everything.
They have 10 million registered players in North America and yet only 100,000 are active on any given week.
Tanks for the coffee Claus. Nice investigative video. I have seen mass disconnection. But I wonder if Wargaming sold those old accounts? They must've been abandoned or purchased individually, in order to be used all this time later.
Or hacked?
I'm with you Claus, there are no words. The odds are beyond astronomical that this was anything else BUT cheating!! Please stick with it Claus, Wargaming AND the greater WOT community has to take notice eventually and take ACTION!
Hello Claus. Greetings from UK. I'm a Romanian WOT player, living in UK . This thing with rigging just show up relatively recently in the attention ,and this thanks to people like you and others which HOPELESS tries to change the mentality of WOT board of directors. I personally participated in this kind of activity, and i rigged the game, trying to help our commander from a Romanian clan of which i was part at that time, to get on the missions forT22 medium tank. And that it happened around 6-7 years ago, or even more. When T22 was for the first time released to be earn on mission. We use to do exactly same shit that you see today, in the rigging replays that you receive. I was at the beginning in game, but the guys doing this seams to have lots of experience in rigging, so maybe they was doing this from some long time, before i get in game. The difference is only one : we was doing this in small groups, to "help" a friend, or in my personal situation a commander. But now this shit is so much better organize and became profitable business. I do not try to excuse me, i was aware that i break the game rules, but after a few rounds i quit doing this just because i realise that the guy i help( clan commander) do not really appreciate , he just use as. My good faith was cheated, i was thinking that i help a friend, but he don't give a shit about our efforts. That few rigged games was the first and last i take part. Unlike now ,that times was really risky to do that ,because we know and see accounts from our clan banned by WOT for 1 month or even 6 months, after someone send the replay with rigging game to WOT. This days nobody care. In my opinion WOT is a lost cause, and from MANY reasons, not just rigging. Now i only play when i have nothing better to do with my time, and i stop spending any kind of money for game from 3-4 years ago. I really believe that is the ONLY WAY to force WOT directors to change them mentality. When money will stop come in game then they will start care and listen about the problem in game. Till than.......like i say HOPELESS. Good luck with your channel. Sorry for my spelling and any nonsense ,English is not my first language
Thank you for your honesty. If I was in a cool clan, I would also feel pressured to help (to cheat) my commander in this way if he said that it was a requirement of staying in the clan. Maybe you learned at that point that the commander was an ARSEHOLE, and the clan was a sack of corrupt sh*t. Which clan was this please? Do you still play with them? Do not get yourself into trouble. I'll be honest too - One of my previous clans (EU server TDU Clan, also links with WJDE Clan) had a current member participating in a recent cheating rigging battle. I felt ashamed of them, but they kicked me out years ago when I was inactive for a year. Ah well, f*ck 'em.
Live long and prosper my friend. Your English is very good, I understand every word.
From that Mino's driving and positioning I have little doubt he knew how things were going to go down.
What baffles me is he actually uploaded this replay haha, he's completely sure he won't get any kind of ban.
@@juanjodpr well, they been getting away with A LOT over there...
I would have done the same thing if I noticed my team were all afk in the base.
There are other things going on in these games, I understand that you can get preferential matchmaking if you are the RIGHT PLAYER. This was droped recently in a stremed game game by a game influencer.
I am with you and thanks Claus. I am starting to post daily on WG Facebook page, the reasons why I refuse to put any more money into this game until the situation is fixed. They understand bad publicity and money. If other players went after WG on their social media, it would probably help to get a fix started sooner rather than later.
I'd like to see an IN-GAME protest too Don't use any consumables, no gold ammo, no training booklets, no bonds, no Directives, maybe only tech-tree units I don't claim to understand the monetization of the game, BUT... I know what they are trying to get us to spend RW currency on. If we play the game without rendering any of those items necessary, then it will let them know we are pissed off, right? Claus, maybe you and Quickybaby could organize such a boycott?
@@CrownTown10 QB relies on this game for his celebrity. He's paid.
@@CrownTown10 And, up to now, all the money has already been given and converted into pixel currency, pixel tanks, pixel consumables etc. The damage is done, and I'll put it this way - many players may never have heard of Claus Kellerman! So, go into the game and raise awareness yourself. Point General Chat in the direction of Claus' video. I successfully did this all day yesterday and it was more satisfying than actually playing. Don't spam, but do slow spam. Also, chat with anyone that challenges the slow spam, or doubts Claus. As we know, anyone's opinion can be misinformed and there are many WoT 'fanboys', myself included, but this video here is EVIDENCE OF FRAUD!
Claus, this is all so simple.
the cheaters/boosters are running 30+ virtualized Windows OS that has all their bot accounts, they load them up and put them into the Queue at the same time, and if they end up in the same game, they can just disconnect all of them and only leave the account running that gets the boosting....
Glad to follow WoT saga through Kellerman. A few years that I sent my account to sleep, still enjoy the shartshow through yt. Keep u the good work
WG doesn't care unless it hits them in the wallet.
Let's see what happens this christmas.
Thanks, I think there is a possibility that staff is possibly taking some side money to provide access and or codes.
Claus.. TOTALLY AGREE with you.. this is not a SERVER PROBLEM. The cheaters have hacked WG servers and hi-jacked inactive account.. to then use for their business. It could be WG itself.. using guys from the inside. How else to explain it?
Now way we can compete against game rigging!!! Claus well done man!!! Keep it up!!!
Claus, check the time when this battle took place: 03:16. That's night time, when the server population is the lowest. I would assume it's easy to arrange something like this to happen at that time. It may also be possible that all these players are once again - the accounts that didn't make it into the battle that had the boosted account. So not necessarily the Minotauro player is at fault here.
Thanks Klaus, good work as always. I have no faith in WG fixing this, maybe their thinking is look if we ban this account he’s just going to use or open another one ? Maybe we all have to be less precious about our stats? Maybe the way forward is to remove stats from the game altogether? We each of us know if we’ve had a good or a bad game, isn’t that enough? Do we Need to know what colour we play at ? It took years to get the team kill removed and that was the only way to stop the as# holes? WG didn’t remove the accounts back then either at most they blocked a few for a week or so and they had other accounts ready to go if that happened! Players games were ruined until team damage was stopped and you were instrumental in helping this happen. Would love to hear your thoughts on how to STOP the cheaters, the more scenarios I run through in my head the more elusive the answer?
Dakillzor has a video this morning of him noticing a 6 player platoon of game riggers. So he disrupts the game rigging,must see👍
Claus Kellerman - keeping it real. What a dude!
They used to do this in world of war craft. These websites that offer services break into abandoned accounts and take them over. Back then, they basically drained the accounts of valuables and probably did some other nefarious things too. In WOT, the take over abandoned accounts to use for boosting. One of the things they offer is marks of excellence. Pretty easy to get marks when you can farm in the way you showed. It's not a user multiboxing alla 2003. It's these companies using abandoned accounts to boost paying customers.
It's not just a disconnection. If the client can't connect to the game, noting happens. But ALL the barrels dropped. That can only happen, if the clients connect successfully to the server.
The game was played at 3 AM, and getting a tier 10 queue and that time takes very long. They queued all together and that's why there were those mediums who had no clue what was going on, the rest of them were just accounts for farming to mino.
- these battles happend in the past aswell, i remember few replays
yes at 3am it is not uncommon on the eu server to get kicked out of the waiting line because there are not enough players online. if i would do shit like that 3am-6am would be the right time on the eu servers for it.
This explains why almost every game has inactive players in it which are fall offs from the account farms trying to get in the same game. WG needs to take the reporting mechanic in game more seriously when we report inactive/bot and start giving warnings out then ban them. I would be interested in the response you would get Claus if you reached out to WG for a comment on this.
Yuri is attempting to call Claus to smooth things over right now. Don't worry ;)
First! - Since I've been watching the cheating videos you guys have been putting out it's been hard to want to play the game. The game in this video Wargaming needs to explain what happened.
I now log in just to slow-spam chat with instructions to watch this video. It's interesting to interact with the naysayers (WARGAMING MODERATORS???) and positive people who go to take a look and then report back. One player even started spamming my instructions too (good old copy and paste) in solidarity. I did this all day yesterday and didn't play a single battle.
I had a game yesterday with 6 people who didn't move from the cap and did 0 dmg. Unfortunately, it wasn't recorded, but i wasn't the only one who said something about it.
The devs were in on this. No question.
I assume the software he uses presses battle at exactly the same time for all the accounts, which increases the chances of getting the same battle.
The alternative is worse, that WG are in on it and accept money.
Thanks Claus for the great video, similar thing happened to me last night on NA servers 7 afk tanks on my team lol, what a good direction Wargaming is going in if they want to lose their player base.
Been busting my arse since 2013 to be a good player....former tanker. It appears that if your not a " VIP " in WOT....the MATCH MAKER just dangles carrots for you, meaning yeah you get on a roll but then loss after loss after loss.....I've take 2 months off and may never return thanks to "CHIT" like this.....thanks for all your hard work and vids.......
In World of warships I believe there are "player " accounts that are actually bots / ghosts created by wargaming to fill places within games . If there is a way to trigger dead / ghost accounts that certainly throws out there some clever ways to fix games. Now if some of them are employees or ex employees with the ability to abuse server privileges withing WG then they are playing us harder than we are playing their games.
Nice Job Klaus. This rigging must end. I think there should be some autorecord of the replay files directly to WG servers after each battle, then each replay to be tested by some auto filtering systems to find some markers like many tanks with zero damage etc. And inf some of these replays is found it should be sent for another investigation. Other replays can be deleted.... Some system like this would cost something, but it would bring big benefit keeping the game almost rigging free
Great video Claus. Wargaming will not do anything. They are in on it for sure.
I wish I was more confident that Wargaming would do something about this. Sadly, I doubt it. Thanks for the videos Claus, keep up the great work. Also curious to me is that the replay appears to be uploaded by the guy that did all the damage?
Yeah, maybe he's not in on the scam, but got lucky, if that's the right word...
@@domberry1502 nah, he’s just that stupid...
@@domberry1502 He knew they were all inactive from the way he was driving. No caution, just zoomed right through the center without poking corners carefully. Pretty sure he's in on it...
I am certain that the player uploaded it to cast doubt on them having anything to do with the rigging
@@danam0228 Another commenter suggested that the upload on WoTReplays could be an ad for the booster company, an example of their power.
Dakillzor had riggers on his stream and checked that in the first Minute. He blocked the shots with his JPZ and he kill the rigging Obj. 140 with blindshots. Hillarious! The TH-cam Video is from today on Dakillzors Channel.
Thanks, I'll watch it after reading these 1500 comments :)
@Claus Kellerman Here are WG's fixes:
1. Eliminate the availability/refresh of statistics data to aggregating websites therefore we no longer can look up the Booster accounts.
2. Strip replays of real player names thus ensuring true anonymity.
We all know how they bungled the T-22 rigging, then gave them complete anonymity by selling the tank.
I saw a Shimakaze DD healing in a Random battle years ago and everyone called me crazy and that stuff can't happen.
Claus I have had to many games where you have 4 or 5 tanks on your team that do 0 damage. Even in the last week I have seen players complaining about massive losing streaks. I used to think I was average but the last 2 weeks haven’t had a winning day. Day after day of 8 and 20 streaks. It just seems funny with all the complaints and my past experience that you can’t think something is going on with WG.
Yep I also play a lot less since a while , the last time I played I get into lost battles game after game.
I had 9 loss in a row and almost every game didnt last longer then 4 minutes , it surely isnt because of my play.
I dont have a lot fun playing the game like that so thats why I dont play on a regular base anymore.
I used to be a 52.5% winrate player , but it already went down to almost 50% again.
And it doesnt make any difference if I pick a tank that In normally do very well in , I just keep losing game after game 😂 such a joke.
Great work Claus, had a thought. These game rigging individuals for ever how long they have done this, are affecting the numbers in the game. But. WG has them also affecting the way the " Buffs and Nerfs" are done by these numbers they see from the games. It's just a thought
More than likely that is in fact going down the fact that these cheaters are going out and doing different things and rigging games is making it harder for people that don't cheat to get marks and everything else hell I feel like when I'm playing solo my teammates are enemies like they're only there to keep me from winning it's sad because the only agenda on anyone's mind is ( Do Damage ) without taking any risks Console Player Edit: What happened to trying to win the games?
Very good point
How do the game riggers get access to so many 10 year old accounts without the help of someone in War Gaming?
Raptor Boost is also buying commercial time during Claus' videos lately.
Is a former or current WG employee involved in this? The fact that these ancient accounts are being reactivated is astonishing. Or are they new accounts that are only listed as old accounts. Inside access to the EG system looks to be happening here.
Maybe there is a function in the game that allows someone with access to it, to use accounts without informing XVM of any change to the account stats. I dunno how feasible that would be. Does WG and XVM collaborate? Clearly they do, but what kinds of collaboration are going on?
Hi Claus, I'm an attorney here in the USA N/A server. I and several of my associates are going to closely look into this game rigging that we suspect is mostly being perpetrated by Wargaming and former Wargaming executives and engineers. We have investigative resources here that you don't have. I and many of my colleagues have been playing this game for many years. We too have questioned the honesty of Wargaming and there business model in recent years. Now that you Claus have exposed this deception. We are seriously contemplating putting together a "Class Action" law suit. We are very serious about this. Imagine the enormity of this deception. It's mind boggling almost incomprehensible. I will keep you posted concerning our endeavor to expose the criminals. Thanks Claus you are an amazing human being. 😎
I want to be part of that class action suit
@@weaselxp3663 10s of thousands will participate.
Hi Claus, another great piece of investigation. I have read most of the comments and a few point out that all the tanks are old long established tanks, there was no new tanks from the last few years and all the camo was the old stuff as well. Only one conclusion - An employee with access to accounts is supplying old abandoned account details to rigging firms, obviously for under the counter payments. I will be watching my games very carefully from now on.
Actually one of the inactive tanks had the Arnold Schwarzenegger black, red and white camo, which was released for his christmas special. Was that last year or the year before? I forget.
@@domberry1502 Good spot Dom, I think the Arny commander was about 3 years ago now but I could be wrong.
I am wrong it was December 2021
It used to be the case that. when a player was disconnected, that player was greyed out in the team panel. None of these players were greyed out so it looks like it was not some sort of multiple disconnect. WOW!
Of course! I forgot about this detail! Well spotted sir! This is important!
Live long and prosper :D
Sounds like the game rigging started quite a while ago and wargaming doesn't want to do anything about it. Could wargaming be responsible for the game rigging to make up for the money that the game is losing because of player base dwindling? Makes on ponder.
Considering how Wargaming already sells things I doubt they'd side venture this kind of thing for a low profit. They'd just straight sell free experience.
I thought that too..they are behind it..making the money by rigging for $$$ why wouldnt they? how else did 14 tanks just sit there?
WG has an interest in keeping these dormant garbage accounts around because they INFLATE the server numbers.
Anyone have a clue whatt the player base numbers really are, both now and historically?
Yes they’re responsible.
Sadly I don’t think Wargaming cares about this sort of cheating anymore. As long as the wallet warriors and noobs continue to use mommy and daddy’s credit cards to fuel the game’s money train, nothing will be done about this. If Wargaming was actually serious about stopping these sort of occurrences, measures would’ve been put in place years ago.
I’m a WoT Console veteran of 7+ years (so I don’t think a cheating scandal of this magnitude is possible on Console given its limitations) but this video was still shocking to me.
WG will only react if someone slaps their wallet or if there is a sudden decrease in cash flow. In all other cases it is as Robert Flint said: "WG response is: Go pound salt and leave us alone". Even so, I hope that what you are doing, Claus, will not go unnoticed. Thank you for this, Claus, I hope the stupid windmills from WG start working.
1500 comments and counting. People are noticing :)
I do not believe this is a random drop, which means that someone or more at wargaming is in on this. Someone is making extra cash. He affected more than the two ( innocent) players. As you pointed out the bar is raised for MoE.
In the ultimate irony, I was forced to watch a “Team Raptor” account boosting advert in the middle of this Video. Gotta wonder about TH-cam’s algorithm.
There is the prof, that WOT employees, are seizing unused accounts, and making bank, having done so. You will see nothing done to stop it ! I have sent your videos on this to Wargaming, (tickets) and 5 argumentative responses from Wargaming, have sealed it for me.
They were all connected, at least his teammates were. The game knows when someone is disconnected and eliminates that tank once the game ends, you will see "X was lost in battle" on the disconnected people. This shows up even in the postgame stats and replay as a destroyed tank, yet all his teammates survived.
The average afk rate in wot is around one per battle, meaning 1 out of 30 or 3,3%. So the chance that his 13 teammates are connected, yet afk is around 6,3x10^-20%, or 0,063 attopercent (trillionth of a percent).
This is 4348772 billion times less likely than an asteroid wiping earth tomorrow. You are welcome.
Cool comment, thanks for the maths too, I've never heard of the word "attopercent" before, and I LOVE a new word :D
gj man, i never noticed that afk tank would be marked as lost in battle or destroyed tank,then this is 100% rigged. Gj wg cunts for allowing this. like im going to put more money into your shitshow!!!!
Keep up the great work Claus. I hope WG gets their shit together and does something about the lack of integrity in the game (but Im not holding my breath).
My guess (which a lot of others have mentioned) is that some WG employees have the account credentials database. They just flagged any 10+ year old accounts not recently active and sold them to (very likely their own) boosting companies. Unfortunately, this is ruining a very nice game.
Claus - sounds to me like someone on the "inside" at Wargaming (with systems access) has accessed inactive accounts and used them to "set up" a Rigged game. How else could the Match Making you outlined have occured??????? Some of the inactive accounts just happened to turn up on the same day? And ended up in the same game? Statistically impossible would be my guess.
WG is complicit, either by their actions or non action.
I just feel sorry for the enemy 430, he could have had a monster farm if he'd gone down the other flank, though he probably wouldn't want this S**T S**W on his conscience!
He met the other 430 because his bot team revealed his position to prevent him getting involved. Whichever way he went he was doomed. No fun for you!
Great job Claus, if there’s all this evidence that you and other people are bringing to public attention why isn’t Wargaming doing anything about ? ? ?
Because they don't give a shit. That's why I'm selling all my Tree Tanks and start playing only with premium ones (Bonds). More credits for me and no my real money for WG fuckers
WG benefits? from inflating server numbers? you really think 100k players are online playing this shit game today?
WOT needs to account for itself no way these people are acting outside.
wg employee side hussle maybe?
Clause, I would suggest that the only way for anyone to get ahold of these old accounts with passwords to use them are getting help from WG'ing themselves.
My guess, someone who has access to dormant/inactive/abandoned accounts....and was able to set up a battle. Not sure how they can all drop into the same battle simultaneously, but I'm sure with some effort and help it can be done...thanks Klaus, but yet again another reason I don't play the game anymore.
I have experienced this twice it was very weird, and I didn't have a clue what was hoping on but now I realise.
you really think this is some inside thing XD its just a glitch
@@matiasmaensivu7723 I don't really know, but it was very unusual to say the least. In hind sight, I should have kept the post game stats and the replay to check, it also happened 2 games in a row. There were only me and three other players that were driving around and farming, it didn't take long to realise that something was wrong.
@@matiasmaensivu7723 Matias, Sgntbilco is simply telling us of his experience, not his opinion of how it happened to him. Watch the video again, all the way until the end. If your English is not good, you may not understand it all. No offence intended my friend.
@@sgntbilco and you think its not just a glitch? Why couldnt it be a glitch since it happened many times
@@sgntbilco so did you give money to wg employee to get it happen? :D Its just a glitch. And it happening to random players confirms it. Just like the mino, if you see your own team afk, doesnt take a genius to drive straight to the dmg farm heaven. No idea why in this video they think its some rigging thing to drive straight to enemy spawn
Yesterday I played a game where like 4 of my team was bots.. so I don't think we were supposed to win, but my team had compatant players so we almost won, but when we had 4 left on my team and 3 on their team the game started glitching out for everybody on my team... and we lost
Can you describe the glitching?
@Rrj private Can you describe the glitching?
@@domberry1502 Its like when you push forward for one second, then it freezes for a couple seconds, then you are in the middle of the field, nowhere around the spot you wanted to go.. I thought it was maybe just mine but other people on my team were saying it started messing up for them too,, lol
Keep after them Claus!! Keep the pressure on War Gaming. Even if they stop this. The damage has been done to game stats. Thoughts on how this could be fixed?
The only way I think this could happen is with the help of bribed War Gaming employees.
Yes I think some are involved using old inactive accounts.
Wargaming is a Belarussian/Russian company with a tax haven in Cyprus. They will never accept bribes.
@@jcbezuidenhout6053 you don't axept bribes, they just occur.
Yeh or Wargaming themselves . Which other game company only bans users with a once a year purge.
It doesn't need WG to get 30 accounts rigging MM.
I saw some simulare on a video QB was showing, dont remember if it was QB it self that was playing or if it was a replay sent to him, but at that time it was a server glitch and mid trough farming the enemy team started to move and shooting back.
Quickybaby may have declared it to be a server glitch but maybe he was wrong OR misleading his viewers from the truth. He IS paid after all.
Hi Klaus, a german TH-camr „Ohare“ has commented this game 8 days ago. Hi hasn‘t check the hole problem. But he clued this game was on server EU4, this is the „migration“-server vor russians since the war in Ukraine. Maybe this connects also to other riggings.
Claus, love your work. Maybe we can organise a "Do not play for 24 hours" for America and Europe as a protests I bet that'll make WG do something!
A lot of people of all ages probably don't know this TH-cam channel exists.
You would think community contributors would want to get cheating stopped and act together to do something about it. After all, cheating is bad for WOT and bad for them, as they promote the game. QB brought it to our attention. Claus picked it up and ran with it. I don't watch other contributors. Have they featured cheating at all and given their views on it?
@@generalpublic3744 I only watch Claus so I couldn't say.
@@domberry1502 true.
@@generalpublic3744 no, other contributors are ignoring it unfortunately.
So Claus, do they turn off all maps bar one. Would this also give them a higher percentage to land with their platoon mates??
That’s not possible.
All they need is an empty server during certain hours (EU4) and queue 30/40 accounts same time. From time to time this will happen
Even a premium account can only bar 2 maps
If the riggers are the ones that program the game, they can make anything happen. You hear that Wargaming?
Claus, this work is heroic. It by the end means, that WG is collecting money from us and allows deception, which also means, they betray us for spending our money in this game. I wonder whether this could lead to suing them. In this case it would pose a threat for them which should lead to prevent game rigging on their servers. Please, keep posting these issues and folks keep sendig this to Claus. THX!
Try to sue them. WOuld be hillarious to see someone lose hundreds of thousands in a justice case with 0 backing evidence.
@@blowbert9126 You are correct, nobody of us noobs would do this. The point is, it could cause a threat in a SWOT analysis, leading to do something against this rigging. For this reason it is of huge importance that our community contributors keep posting these issues.
I guess those old accounts where either long abandoned and hacked at some point or were sold to those companies by the owners.
I was just forced to watch a TeamRaptor advertisement before I opened your video….
That’s a slap to the face