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Technics 1200 G Review - BEST Tunrtable in the world?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
  • HiFi PiG's Stuart gives us his thoughts on the iconic Technics 1200 G turntable. Is it the best turntable in the world for playing your vinyl?

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  • @jozefserf2024
    @jozefserf2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Forget the advertising hype, get a Technics.

  • @stevejohncrowe
    @stevejohncrowe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review Stuart. I went the Rega route but have a mate with an original, refurbished, 1200 (whatever) updated with new bearing etc. It sounds wonderful and will, I’m sure, still be spinning in fifty years time. He’s just fitted a Jelco arm and has three interchangeable cartridges.

  • @KarenAppleyard
    @KarenAppleyard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review thanks and it’s moved up on my shortlist now 👍🏻

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Be interested to hear if that's the route you went

  • @PhuckHue2
    @PhuckHue2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    greatest turntable ever

    • @JohnDoe-rn3jy
      @JohnDoe-rn3jy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even close

    • @PhuckHue2
      @PhuckHue2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnDoe-rn3jy Not very intelligent I see

    • @martinmelucci4383
      @martinmelucci4383 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great turntable, though evenTechnics would probably argue with you, given their current SL-1000R/SP-10R.

    • @bw8827
      @bw8827 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silly statement that's patently not true.

    • @PhuckHue2
      @PhuckHue2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bw8827 Dummy

  • @PaulGraham1977
    @PaulGraham1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Spot on video! Nicely done mate :)

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. We will be adding more short videos by way of introducing products. You might like the videos in doing introducing out reference system. Needless to say I start with the vinyl front end.

  • @sebek0311
    @sebek0311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How does it compare to 1200gr?

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't heard the HE at home and so can't comment.b

  • @ProjectOverseer
    @ProjectOverseer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting review.
    I own the old SL-1210mkll in mint condition. It also has a rubber underside on the platter. I also use a special arcrilic platter mat that dampens the platter even more.
    I have a collection of mid to upper midrange cartridges which sound superb on my midrange 25k audiophile system. The turntables weighs 12.5kg with tank like build. I've never heard cogging or any issues in playback sound quality.
    The SL-1200G is a fabulous near exact looking turntable, but I find it hard to believe I will hear a massive improvement in SQ to justify its 4K price. I will find out soon.

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have tried a whole load of mats on the 1200MK2 and the G and I think the standard mat is great, though I use a cork mat. Differences are, to be honest, minimal. The G is definitely better than the Mk2. I've had some nice carts on the 2 but got a Hana Red on the G now. With the Swingheadshell by Nasotec this is a great combo !

  • @jasonpomare5639
    @jasonpomare5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know you can spend the price of a house on a turntable but the technics turntables will satisfy me just fine 👍

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe a bit late for a review, but better now than never I suppose...
    Got the 1200G for about 2 years now and I'm still happy with it.
    The modernization is definitely noticeable, it's a lot more accurate than the original 1200 series.
    All positives compared to the originals, except for one thing though: the pitch between +/- 7 and +/- 8 is dead, just like the 1210M5G had.

    • @michaelwight9851
      @michaelwight9851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the digital pitch works in steps not as good as the mk2

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelwight9851 Exactly, that's because the MK2 has an analogue pitch controller instead of digital.

    • @adrianowallin
      @adrianowallin ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess I never hated my m5g because I like to mix no more than 4 plus or minus lol

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      To mixing I have used MK2s for years. Then got 7s and thought I'd not get on with the pitch. In practice I find it easier to lock in...which makes no sense, I know. The 7 isn't as well built as the 2 though. I'd love a pair of Us to mix on !

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hifipigTv I also own an MK7 (M7L actually which is a limited colored version of the MK7).
      It's much lighter and less solid than the MK2 indeed; the 1200G is the other way around, like an improvement in every way over the MK2.
      I use both for HiFi, so I use their tonearm lift and that tonearm lift on the MK7 is a bit of a let-down to me... it works, but doesn't feel like a 1k turntable.

  • @michaelwight9851
    @michaelwight9851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just realised the mk5g was the first digital pitch.

  • @badgastein2
    @badgastein2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Technics SL 120 with SME Ser 3 arm is still going strong after 45 years…

    • @intotheblue50
      @intotheblue50 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This reviewer has missed the the difference. The MK1 120 and the 1200 are a solid heavy alloy plinth where as the 1200 mk2 and on are half made of rubber. This is fine for DJs it is not fine for home use, as he says ie. for audio files. VPI went down the root of killing all vibration, a mistake, every thing has resonance and its own inherent sound, it's about how you design the resonance's to work together. I will go with the iconic SL120 every time.

  • @robocop2783
    @robocop2783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really want this turntable

    • @chamber20projects
      @chamber20projects 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This would be my ultimate endgame table. Will prolly end up going with a 1500c.

  • @z90012
    @z90012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've Got the Reloop Rp7000 MK2 absolutely Love it.built like a tank to 😊👍

  • @ottoolsen9676
    @ottoolsen9676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    have they manage to add an auto return on the tone arm?? the old one did not have any automation, and it may be usless for a dj, i used the 1200 as a dj in the 80's, and never missed this function, but it is a handy thing for home use, and i have no plan for a new dj business, that trainride is loooooooong gone. and for all that do not know the 1200 series, it is for sure one of the most stable turntables made, is it the best!! well is there a best, but it is for sure upp there among them. and it is for sure the best dj turntable ever made, the rest is just a copy of the 1200 series.

  • @Josal
    @Josal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review

  • @rufdymond
    @rufdymond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are some 1200/1210 really that light? I know they have changed over the years I have a MK2 from the late 1980s and the weighs 12.5kg

    • @helthuismartin
      @helthuismartin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He talked about the MK7 wich is 9,6 KG.. The MK2 ,,,and 5 too are indeed 12,5 KG.

  • @topgun3217
    @topgun3217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there !! I'm planning to buy a SL 1200G
    Would really appreciate it if you could tell me about a phono preamp and also a headshell/mc cartridge combo that would complement/do justice more than adequately to the SL 1200G
    Waiting expectantly for your response

    • @zogzog1063
      @zogzog1063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Headshell: Mainly I wouldn't bother. I like the styling of the Technics ... unless you get an Ebony (or African Blackwood, Mpingo, or any hardwood really) headshell. They make musical instruments from the stuff! The difference is slight and you would not notice it unless you become very familiar with your system, then you would detect a slightly more organic sound. (Top tip: get an ebony stabiliser while you are about it).
      Cartridge: The world is your octopus. Definitely a moving coil. Just be sure there is not a compliance mismatch (too much to discuss here). It would be pretty hard to overspend on a cart because the TT is just that good. If you are not confident in setting up Azimuth, Tracking Force, Alignment, Overhang, Vertical Tracking Angle, Anti-skate then go for a cartridge that has an elliptical stylus as they are a bit more forgiving where setup is less than optimal.
      Phono Stage: As with the cartridge the quality of the TT will not be the weak link vis a vis the phono stage. There seem to be many good ones out there, so look at the specs especially the Signal to Noise ratio.

    • @topgun3217
      @topgun3217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks for your detailed response. A lot to take in. Much appreciated

  • @topgun3217
    @topgun3217 ปีที่แล้ว

    By any chance, have you been able to compare the SL 1200G to the Dr. Feickert Volare turntable ?
    Asking because they are at a similar price point

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't. I have compared it to the SME 10/309 and a full Origin Live rig and preferred the Technics. YMMV

    • @topgun3217
      @topgun3217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for responding

  • @jasonpomare5639
    @jasonpomare5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful.

  • @nickmenges4792
    @nickmenges4792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Nick.

  • @sonofacheron
    @sonofacheron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid review

  • @arupnath3477
    @arupnath3477 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, What is the difference between Malaysia made Technics & Original Japanese made Technics ?

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know. Sounds like the start to an excellent joke, though.

  • @michaelwight9851
    @michaelwight9851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice vid

  • @colinhathaway9493
    @colinhathaway9493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to a Michell Gyrodec? Looking at making the switch as I fancy a change as I’ve had my Gyrodec for 12-15 years

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Difficult to say as I've no direct experience of the Gyrodec at home. I have actually considered moving the Technics down into our main system and would do so were it not for the fact that I need to be able to swap arms in and out for review purposes. Personally, I don't think you will be disappointed with the swap!

    • @colinhathaway9493
      @colinhathaway9493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hifipigTv being able to swap cartridges easier cos of the removable head shell will be a bonus as well. Been looking at getting a decent mono cartridge at some point. Also what cartridge were you using when testing the Technics. I have a Hana ML on the way

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've not compared it directly so can't comment.

  • @robertlancaster8190
    @robertlancaster8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are mains leads??

  • @spcverd6654
    @spcverd6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Las chapas de laton las venden en Aliexpres de un grosor de 3ml a un precio de 50 €.....El torque es inferior al tocadiscos Synq X-Trem 1 ( 4,5 a 5 ) y el peso de dicho tocadiscos es de 11 kg, ademas las luces azules y blancas las tiene el Synq X-trem 1 antes que el 1200, y la botonadura de retroceso y ajustes del tiempo de frenada y marcha estan a la vista, no escondidas como en el 1200, ademas el brazo de aluminio es mejor que el brazo del 1200, y otro adelanto que posee el X-trem son dos botones de parada, para `poder poner los tocadiscos en forma vertical para competicion..... etc..etc..👀👀👍..🤩...

  • @brucegelman5582
    @brucegelman5582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing how there are a gazillion expensive belt drives....why is that?

    • @artiefufkin3292
      @artiefufkin3292 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're easy to make. Tooling up to build a 12XX, never mind designing is mega money and a massive barrier to entry for smaller manufacturers. In short they can't afford to make them.

  • @michaelwight9851
    @michaelwight9851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the new mk7s are no way as good as the older models.

    • @TemujinScott80
      @TemujinScott80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I enjoy mine a great deal. Older models will definitely have different material used.

    • @willej6525
      @willej6525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t buy em then

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought some last summer to get back into DJing. They are ok to play on but they are not Gs.

  • @metademon333
    @metademon333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The turntable from my dreams(black 1210) that I'll never would have money to buy
    It Really SUCKS to be Poor and live in Macedonia

    • @metademon333
      @metademon333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I must say that I envy you, you're a lucky man
      Cheers!!!

  • @nasirbhati8834
    @nasirbhati8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Indian how much price Amazon available yes no

  • @paulboyce8537
    @paulboyce8537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLX 1000 does the same. Not saying the Pioneer is better but the Technics 1200 G is more than 7 x more expensive. Is it worth it? Pioneer is silent and has brilliant sound. Most people wouldn't be able to spot the difference. Most difference comes from cartridge and how well the insulation is. Using exotic materials in my opinion doesn't always bring the perfect result but it will empty your wallet. Made in Taiwan vs Japan there is nothing between. Hanpin Technics inspired tables are an upgrade/modern take in many ways giving them lot better value for money. For Technics you need to spend at least twice as much to get the same performance and Audio Tecnica is a match for example Technics 1500. And then there is the cost of repairs that is a nightmare. Inside the Technics is very cheap for the money you pay for it. There are teardown videos and to be honest what you find is not pretty.

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a mk2, a pair of 7 s and the g from technics. I also have an SME 10 and an Original Live Resolution. With the same cartridge (I have loads but my choice of them all is the Hana Umami Red) the G is the better turntable of them all, in my opinion. It’s probably three or for grand cheaper than the OL and much more than that with regards the SME. I haven’t tried the PLX and so I can’t comment. I’ve stripped and rebuilt a couple if MK2s and added more expensive arms and external psus but not compared them directly with the G but if I were to, I strongly suspect the G would be the victor.

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hifipigTv The point made is that the PLX 1000 is under AU$1000 and the Technics 1200 G over AU$7000. The margin in quality is small and the sound in blind test would become down to taste and cartridge. I'm talking about strait out of the box. No mods. Technics 1200 G has functions that are refined where as the PLX 1000 shines in it simplicity and in general improvement from the classic. Of course if money wasn't the issue I'll take the Technics. But considering the difference I don't think I can justify AU$6000 extra for the Technics.

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulboyce8537 I use the technics as a reference for reviews and for my own pleasure in a pretty revealing system and so I’d say I would be able to tell…however, you are correct, it’s not 7 times better. It’s bog standard with a great cartridge btw..

    • @paulboyce8537
      @paulboyce8537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hifipigTv You pay lot for the brand name and I do get it it makes you all warm and cozy inside to know you have something you like. Personally I have always been a Pioneer guy from the 80's component systems till today. I just got back to the vinyl after a long hiatus. I've got fairly large collection. For sure the Technics is not bad but I saw it very much overpriced. How I see it the SL-1500C is somewhere equal to AT-LP140XP, SL-1200GR I would compare to RP-7000 MK2 as equal, PLX 1000 little better. SL-1200G is in totally different price range even that I don't think it sound that much better. For that marginal difference I see expensive adds on the Technics that I'm sure some are willing to pay for. Personally I don't think I'll be able to spot the difference in the sound. In my opinion there is no right or wrong here.

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulboyce8537 I haven't heard all the Pioneers you mention so can't comment. The Technics G is actually the cheapest of the three turntables I mentioned (SME 10 and Origin Live) so I'm not really being swayed by price on this, Paul. The Mk7s, however, I do feel are an inferior product (other than the pitch control) to the MK2 1200 series.

  • @Victrola777
    @Victrola777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To even say best in the world, and Technics in the same sentence is just foolish !!! I have owned 5 highly regarded Technics tables, even a 1200 limited edition gold, and none of them were great turntables !!! I ended up selling them all.

    • @hifipigTv
      @hifipigTv  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I own several high-end turntables including an SME 10 with both 309 and 12" tonearms. The Technics gets played more than any of them. The current Mk7s are a good DJ turntable but ultimately flawed ( i own a pair of them). I also own a MK2. The G is a fantastic turntable that with a great cartridge will beat many so-called high-end audiophile turntables.