Tenno Shenaniganizer To be fair, nanotech is quite absurd. Have you ever heard of something called "grey goo event"? What is shown in the second Godzilla anime movie is not too far off except what people imagine what would happen in real life is *FAR* worse. A grey goo event would take over the Earth in a week, probably less. The problem is when authors try to put self-replicating nanomachines into their stories. If the plan is to save Earth, _no real scientist would risk a grey goo event._ The only actual magical thing about the nanomachines in the Godzilla anime is that when the humans first go to recolonize Earth and it's not a giant ball of metal. That does not make any sense.
extragirth64 I read an essay on grey gooing before. It compared how quick grey goo spreads to bacteria spreading in a jar. "If the bacteria has 24 hours to fill the jar, at what point is the jar half full? The answer is 23:59." Bacteria spreads with mitosis BTW (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 etc. Meaning it would've filled the jar completely in that final minute) I guess that the nanometal spent most of the 20000 years breaking its limiter. Even after it does that, it need to assimilate material. Most science fiction also tells us nano machines assimilate organic material better than say solid rock. We see how quick the nanometal absorbed organic material but surrounding rocks were almost untouched, like it was ignoring it and just using it as a foundation With all that in mind, I believe the nanometal was on the verge of an outbreak by the time the humans returned to take control of it EDIT: Unless of course the metal was smart enough to remain concealed because it didn't think it could beat goji without human/belo intervention
Tenno Shenaniganizer The real issue though is that the nanomachines in the Godzilla anime are technically an organism. It does not matter if it was specifically designed to attack Godzilla cells, it can mutate/evolve to eat something else instead. 1000s of years of self-replicating millions upon billions upon trillions of times and not having a single split-off species that decides to eat granite, cellulose or some other random material is insane. Those nanomachines are singled-cell life, its ability to evolve quickly is very good, in fact as good as bacteria, maybe better. Machines are not perfect, computer programs are capable of change just like DNA.
This is how I would've done the movie: The remaining Earth Returnists find MechaGodzilla City. They decide to rebuild MechaGodzilla but doing so and having it be equal to Godzilla's current size may take some time and leave them vulnerable for attack but they proceed to do so seeing as Mecha-G was designed to conquer Godzilla in the first place. In addition, they create the Vulture Mechs to hold off Godzilla and give the Bilusaludo some time to build MechaGodzilla 2.0. Then, when Godzilla has Haruo, Yuko, and Belu-Be on the ropes, he is knocked aside by an energy blast as MechaGodzilla rises above the clouds and the movie ends with Godzilla and MechaGodzilla about to duke it out. There, I just came up with a better storyline than anything Gen Urobutchi could _ever_ come up with. You're welcome.
Personally, I would prefer actually being able to see the fight, since that's basically what it's all building up to, but that's still a better plot than what we got from the movie.
good, but i'm not waiting another movie to see them fight. i would do the battle in the same movie, unless you want to make a mechaG, godzilla, ghidorah royal battle... that would be cool.
I was thinking of too but mine is sort of different though for Anime MechaGoji: Why not make him like Trypticon from Transformers since both of them are monsters that turn into a whopping city. You got yourself a mobile base and a weapon at the same time.
I have literally asked that question to myself as soon as I found out about the metal and that they don’t rebuild mechagodzilla it really pisses me off No joke I actually thought they introduced the metal as a way to get over the huge size difference between the to but no there’s nothing but I still don’t why that didn’t go anywhere
SkySlasher THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT, OMG i seriously dislike this movie and its plot. Its just not good, and insults the viewers intelligence. They set it up perfectly to have the biggest godzilla vs mechagodzilla brawl in history, and it would have totally made up for the fact that godzilla barely appeared in the first movie and most of the second, if they had that giant brawl i dreamed of. I remember thinking how the hell is mechagodzilla gonna be in this movie? It would have to be tiny, and then whats the point? So i went in thinking he would appear like the trailers said he would, because they did they showed mechagodzilla in the fucking trailer, and so i go in totally blind, find out about mechagodzilla city, think awe shit son its bout to get crazy up in here and then get the ultimate middle finger. Wow. I hate this movie honestly.
I thought that too, I even thought the name Mechagodzilla City was a reference to the name Godzilla Earth, signifying how they’re both extremely massive and so the battle would be on a larger scale. I assumed by the end, they’d realize they needed Mechagodzilla to fight Godzilla and so the city would repurpose it’s buildings into a body in a last ditch effort. Up until the credits rolled I was hoping Mechagodzilla would show up and take him on, but alas, no such luck : /
The more I look at this "Mecha Godzilla", the more I find it to be a live action version of Bayformers Trypticon. The design has an uncanny resemblance to the designs found in those movies like parts jutting out everywhere.
Also that whole thing about the machine being so complicated and detailed, the robots in the Bayformers have just as much complications and details (if not more so) and the animators could animate many of them with almost no problem.
I'm guessing the crew just didn't want to add Mechagodzilla. If they did, then why didn't they create a simplified version? They could have kept the design (as ugly as it is) and create a newer version that's bigger and much easier to animate. The in-universe explanation could be that recreating Mechagodzilla with the original design would take too long, so they'll have to go with a simpler design. All of this hype about the robotic kaiju, showing everyone the full design in various mediums, and we don't even get a cameo of the full design. The first movie showed more than this one did. What the heck?
I can agree when I saw the film I felt like I was cheated I mean mechagodzilla takes up most of the poster so I mean who wouldn’t think he would show up not to mention it would’ve saved a certain character that dies at the end from their fate I mean in planet eater I wouldn’t be surprised if ghidorah only gets a cameo and mothra who should have hatched by then never even shows up
They may not have allowed Mecha-Godzilla to be built, because then he would have succeeded in killing Godzilla. Godzilla wouldn’t have been there for Void Ghidorah to fight.
I say Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle would have been a lot better if they had Mechagodzilla fight Godzilla. As said in the video, they could remake MG, and improve him. And also said in the video, it never got a chance to fight. Even if it ended with Godzilla basically becoming Burning/ Scarlet Godzilla Earth, I’d be ok with that if Mechagodzilla had at least some chance to fight.
I don't see how this anime mechagodzilla can be genuinely dangerous to the franchise. The franchise is huge. Books, comics, movies, tv series. Inconvenient and a forgettable footnote for the franchise but not genuinely dangerous. Besides, I think this third anime movie is going to be drowned out by Godzilla: King of the Monsters. The release date that Netflix will get will be too close to the release of the upcoming Legenday film. Any damage anime mechagodzilla might do should be thwarted by the new movie. Time will tell and I will watch your video on the topic regardless.
Great video. For me, what pissed me off was not so much that they completely redesigned Mechagodzilla so that he barely resembles Godzilla. I’m open to new ideas, and this was an interesting choice. What pissed me off was the fact that they went through all the trouble of redesigning Mechagodzilla and advertising it to the public only to refrain from doing anything with it at all. Why go through all the trouble of radically changing an existing character if you aren’t going to do anything with it anyway? The redesign was completely pointless. They could have easily used an updated version of one of his earlier designs from previous films for his appearance and it would have made no difference in the plot at all! Even if they couldn’t animate the thing, it still doesn’t excuse what they did, because it would be their own fault for creating an impractical design for the character. I may not have been the biggest fan of their design for Mechagodzilla, but I was still curious to see what this new Mechagodzilla could do. It would have been interesting to see how it worked in combat with Godzilla. That, for me, was the biggest let down if the movie. Like Planet of the Monsters, City on the Edge of Battle had an interesting idea behind it, but it failed to live up to the potential of that idea.
My head canon is that the MechaGodzilla A.I. worked on a replacement body in secret in case he would be found. When the events of COTOB happen, and MechaGodzilla City is obliterated, the new body flies out and initiates this fight with Godzilla Earth: th-cam.com/video/hM8bP3G3AVM/w-d-xo.html . Assuming MechaGodzilla is confirmed dead, and will have no part to play in the third instalment, the only thing that changes is that we see a more bad ass fight. Link for your leisure.
to be fair, we don't know how much more powerful Godzilla has gotten since these 20,000 years. Sure they said his atomic breath could pierce through the atmosphere, but's that's the only implication we got.
I think the whole thing about the animators not being able to animate mechagodzilla because it's overly detailed and complicated is a poor excuse. Michael Bay's transformers designs are just as detailed and complicated as anime mechagodzilla and they were all animated almost flawlessly. That just makes the anime seem lazy.
Current Day Look. First of all, no, it was not impossible for Polygon to add in and animate Mechagodzilla. There is a fan animation made in MMD (MikuMiku Dance) where they animated a whole ass 18 minute fight scene between Godzilla Earth and Anime MG, not the City, the actual mecha. Granted the animations are a bit stiff but it's a fan animation, and a pretty damn good one compared to the trash Polygon gave us. It was entirely possible to simplify and modify the original model to be bigger, simpler, and maybe have more added weapons visible on it. Second. The Bilusaludo are dumb for even taking Metphies word in regard to rebuilding MG. From the first movie, it's clear that the Bilusaludo all either have a distain for religion, or are all Atheistic and therefore would be put off, if not annoyed at the cult-like nature of the Exif, so the fact that Galu-Gu was willing listen to Metphies when plot reasons point towards Galu-Gu being more likely to dismiss Metphies idea is complete bullshit on Gen's part, and a result of terrible direction on Seishita's end. Third. Even if they decided to go and rehash Haruo's plan and use Mechagodzilla City to execute it, why be solely reliant on just that one plan? You have an entire city's worth of Nanometal, the most advanced form of tech we've seen probably in the history of the Godzilla franchise at your disposal, and you do the minimum amount with it. If not rebuilding Mechagodzilla, why not use it for contingency plans in case if Haruo's plan were to fail? Why not have it recreate and construct more Vultures, or fully Automate the Vultures you already have? Why not try to use Mechagodzilla City to form a mass army of robotic mechs to fight Godzilla and overwhelm him with sheer numbers, which, fun fact, was actually a concept discussed in the directors commentary where Mechagodzilla City would've split/formed parts that could fly and combine with each other, and could ultimately combine with a Mechagodzilla to form a Giant Mechagodzilla. If not those, why not simply rebuild Mechagodzilla and improve it and use Haruo's plan as a way to stall Godzilla should he detect Mechagodzilla City? I felt that would've worked out way better since not only would they have at least one way to hold down Godzilla, but they could potentially have a weapon that could fight Godzilla with a contingency plan for a backup! It would've made the Bilusaludo and the non-kaiju cast seem much more competent and we also could've gotten a proper Anime Mechagodzilla interpretation, which if the wait for Godzilla Singular Point Season Two is any indictation, will probably be the ONLY Anime Mechagodzilla we'll see in a while, maybe ever. Finally, to add the nail to the coffin, we actually DO get to see what Anime Mechagodzilla can do (sort of). In the books, or somewhere in there, they have a whole program which has the proposal for Anime Mechagodzilla, which details his abilities as well as some visual to go along with them. Although the visuals are only silhouettes of Anime MG with some of the described abilities, they're still there and from what I've seen, would have been great to use against Godzilla and it did genuinely look like Anime Mechagodzilla would have given Godzilla a good and hard fight had he not been destroyed. To list some of the abilities Anime MG had (and you can look this up yourself), this MG had. 1. A Convergent Neutron Cannon that would have essentially worked as a counter and mimic to Godzilla's Heat Beam. 2. A Hyper Lance capable of impaling Godzilla and injecting him with Nanometal which would've destroyed him from the inside out 3. A Tail Attack which could've sliced through Godzilla 4. A Blade Launcher on Mechagodzilla's back which would've launched guided blades at Godzilla 5. The Nanometal Particle Diffusing Type: Thermal Energy Buffer Layer, which we saw Mechagodzilla City use 6. The Laminated Heat Resistant Armored Plate, which we saw Mechagodzilla City unsuccessfully form, but in theory could've provided MG resistance and in combination with the Buffer Layer, complete protection from Godzilla's heat ray Not to mention being able to regenerate and repair itself with the Nanometal it's made of. All of this could've made Mechagodzilla a genuine threat to Godzilla and yet Polygon was too lazy, Gen was too in his feels, and Seishita was too busy hating on "Traditionalists" to do anything of substance with Mechagodzilla at all.
I believe that they showed us instead of telling why they couldn’t just rebuild him. 1. This Godzilla showed us again and again that he is way too powerful for a new MegaG to even stand a chance against. 2. Godzilla defeated three monsters at once, survived 150 nuclear bombs falling on him,and destroyed gorwaff which is almost the size of the moon, these are expected in the prequel novels. 3. It would be impossible to deal with the heavy mass and keeping MegaG stable for a fight against Godzilla’s brute strength and power, no matter how many times they what they can do, even with MegaG’s ability’s. What I’m trying to say is, I don’t believe there’s no reason as to why they didn’t do it and mefies argument does has some what a good point. If you all can just think about more, you might understand what I’m trying to say.
I thought that they didn’t rebuild it because the idea was too limiting. They could do more with the city itself by making it a huge trap like they did, and how would they have hidden a Machine of that size? It would probably need to be the same size as Godzilla, and I would think that would be pretty hard to hide even with the shield
Yeah but Metphis (spelling?) Is shady AF. He's already been manipulating all of them even prior to going to Earth. His reasoning could easily be called a TRICK. After all he certainly seems to think that Haruo is essentially Jesus and is manipulating events so that he can fight Ghidorah.
Oh, I know he's probably manipulating everyone, seeing as how he's being very obvious about it. The fact that everyone around him is dumb enough to fall for it without questioning him is a problem all its own.
Omni Viewer the short explanation is because the human characters are so terribly written in this trilogy that it makes the human characters in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah look good
MG didn't operate to fight Godzilla when he was 50 meters, so they wouldn't want to risk a 300 meter MG just standing there and not doing anything. They also didn't know how powerful Godzilla Earth was now, and time wasn't on their side. The City was already pretty much built, and all it needed was someone to guide it. Edit: Just wanted to put it out there that Bandai Japan is making a Anime King Ghidorah figure....
There is however one question I have about the whole nanometal thing. If it's just an inanimate material, how was it able to create an entire city with buildings, weapons, computers and even a human-safe atmosphere?
If you're strictly going off of Metphis's argument, completely understandable. But I feel almost sure even the Bilusaludo stated themselves something to the effect of "Why rebuild Mechagodzilla when we can mobilize this whole city and use its resources to fight Godzilla via material warfare?" In a way, they're not wrong. Let me put it this way; if you've seen Pacific Rim, recall the moment where Striker Eureka kills one of the kaiju with his chest missiles. If those were effective enough to kill a kaiju, why not just build a perimeter of those missiles and use those to kill any oncoming monsters instead of building a giant robot? It's something I feel like the writers WANTED to convey, it just didn't translate well into the script or people just don't get the idea. Mechagodzilla City as a concept is a really damn cool idea. But I feel the biggest letdown is that the city doesn't have enough of Mechagodzilla. Like say, what if instead of the railguns seen with the tank-things, what if those were replicas of Mechagodzilla's oddly designed head? What if more of Mechagodzilla's planned weapons (like the Converging Neutron Cannon) were incorporated instead of generic blaster cannons? What if even the smallest of details, say the lights, were shaped like Mechagodzilla's eyes, making it look like he's always watching? So much more could've been done to really give MG City a sort of personality, but as is it falls flat because it just looks like a city. On top of all this, I have an even better question. If Mechagodzilla went through the effort of rebuilding the original base of operations (and then expanding on it), why didn't Mechagodzilla rebuild himself in the process? Or even better, make a body double of himself? Sure, it'd probably be 50 meters because of default programming without the Bilusaludo's guidance, but it's something to think about.
Reason: Nanocloud is the ultimate Kaiju. Forget Gidorah, nanometal mechagodzilla is a Universe - level threat. And there's no way to balance it against any adversary (except a literal all-powerful God) without gaping plot holes and deus ex machina (no pun intended).
I think that they would have had to disconnect the heat from everything. They head would have to be built back into Mecha-Godzilla (since it houses the AI) and this would cause Mecha-Godzilla City to “die”. They couldn’t detach the head, as it controlled, powered, and managed the entire City.
I'm surprised they even kept that element considering how much it wanted to deviate from the original series. Even the 1998 movie did that better than the whole anime.
Could have been because it would have been a massive undertaking and too much time to rebuild it. Furthermore, the more sound strategy was to execute the same plan they did for mini-Godzilla. It worked the first time. So, naturally they would have thought it could work again. At least when they rebuilt the vultures and EMP harpoons, they had spare parts to work with.
I had an idea for this concept, if there is one Godzilla earth then there could be a other monster skeleton out there, they could build a kiryu style Mecha monster or even a whole fleet to fight Godzilla earth piloted by A.I so that way no lives would be lost
I actually liked the idea of MechaGodzilla growing as a kind of disease for the Earth. Though I know a lot of people don’t like these films and I don’t mind! Like what you like, you do you!
If MechaGodzilla's design was complicated then couldn't they give MechaGodzilla a new, more simple yet flexible design like the READY PLAYER ONE design since they could've rebuilt him to be bigger than Godzilla was in CITY ON THE EDGE OF BATTLE? I mean some of the nanometal buildings are much larger than Godzilla and if they are hollow then MechaGodzilla could've been rebuilt in one of them.
Yeah, I mean the people don't even explore the whole city to see if any of the larger buildings are hollow and they don't have to worry about whether or not they could rebuild MechaGodzilla in another building since they were able to build weapons all over the buildings and even build a long row of guiding towers for Godzilla to walking into their pool trap along with 2 giant harpoons.
Apparently Toho Didn't want Kaiju battles as for it being hard to make Huge Battle being impossible Someone did it already on youtube type MMD Mechagodzilla vs godzilla earth. so its proven either Toho didnt want Kaiju battles or Polygon just hates Kaiju battles either way this was slap to the face to us fans of the series.
I'd say the reasoning given was actually pretty solid. They say that mechagodzilla could be rebuilt but they have no need to considering that they now know Godzilla's weaknesses and that their initial plan did indeed work. From what I can tell, mechagodzilla was intended to beat Godzilla with brute force and therefore was not effecient compared to their new plan. There is also the fact that your argument isn't a valid one I don't think. Because regardless of whether or not mechagodzilla was activated, he was still killed in one blast and considering he was the same size as godzilla I doubt he would have been fast enough to avoid atomic breath continuously. His durability was in question so therefore they opted to use smaller but faster machines. I'd also say that if you're gonna say that the movie never proves that their new plan in better because it ultimately fails, I'd argue that isn't true. We see in the first movie that the plan does indeed succeed in killing the first godzilla. And it would have worked in the second, the problem was that Haruo was not willing to sacrifice himself using nanometal to finally kill Godzilla. The movie emphasizes this greatly, it is the fault of Haruo, not the plan itself.
Enigmatic Strategist Haruo made the right call though. A world where mechagodzilla rules is even less survivable than a world where godzilla earth rules, you can at least hide from godzilla earth.
Tenebrio morio I don't doubt that. But my point was to point out tgat the argument presented in the video is flawed. Part of that was pointng out that the plan was fine, it would have succeeded but it was Haruo's resistance that caused it to fail. Regardless of whether it was a right choice or not, that fact remains.
Now don't get me wrong, I agree with you on this, but I think the wording the Bilusaludo use is that yes they can rebuild MechaGodzilla, but why should they when they make even more ambitious weapons. It's still crap we don't get MechaGodzilla in the film, but it's also good to consider that Haruo's plan did indeed work in killing a Godzilla, so using the nanometal to build a larger version of a proven method vs. rebuilding a weapon that was never tested makes sense to me. I don't like it and wish we got MechaGodzilla, but I can kind of understand it.
Wait, why didn't they also use time travel from their space journey to use the same plan from the 1st movie to kill Godzilla earth before he grew and terraformed the earth?
They could have easily solved the whole magic metal bs by simply saying it converts anything (mainly godzilla's monsters and plants) it comes into contact with into more nano metal. Heck the whole I could forgive the mechagodzilla cop out by saying it would take too long to build and they don't have time (godzilla was close by and would probably noticed a him sized robot being built). The whole movie felt a bit rushed story-wise (like a first draft). Like they asked Gen to make to write a story in X amount of time and after he threw something together they simply said "good enough."
Org13fan1 they did say that it converts other substances(specifically anything that shares godzilla earth's DNA) into nanometal, in fact they showed it happening multiple times. If it takes twelve hours to prepare shields, a emp weaponry, and a trench, what makes you think a 300 meter mech would be completed in a reasonable amount of time, without being noticed by the creature that obliterated a 30 kilometer meteor with the mass of the moon, when it was an infant. It would just be a repeat of what happened the first time. A movie shouldn't have to spell out the obvious.
Tenebrio morio true but it be better than the explantation they gave about it not being a match for Godzilla when they never used it. ( Not that it would last more than a few extra seconds) ; )
Org13fan1 they did however use gigan, who had nearly all of the capabilities of mechagodzilla, and while it did push him back a couple days, it was no match for the red spiral atomic breath.
I have a theory on how they could bring Mechagodzilla back (a weak theory and I doubt that its gonna happen buts its something that just ocurred to me) what if Yuko (that bland character that kisses Haruo and enacts all the ship art) could control the remainder of the nanometal, IF she is still alive and create either smaller Mechagodzillas or a larger one. (again doubtful and probably won't happen.)
if the design was so bad that they can not animated then why design it like that they really should have get there act to together by the way I have heard some where that king Ghidorah will be designed to look like it's made entirely out fire or some kind space energy I don't know if it's confirmed or speculation but if it is real it dose not sound good to me at least.
I thought the design was supposed to be an in progress sort of deal that we would see developing in the movie with a more traditional Mechagodzilla look at the end. Kind of like how Shin Godzilla's marketing only using the 4th form to avoid spoiling the metamorphosis plot, but in reverse.
Honestly...it’s bull crap...if the mecha Godzilla they made for the movie was too busy then why not 1. Rebuild Mecha-Godzilla 2. Improve him with more weapons and armor 3. As they build him, make him look more like Mecha-Godzilla!
What I find weird is the fact that the Earth us turning itself into metal like substance in response to Godzilla, yet there is a fear of Mecha Godzilla city escaping the valley and turning the world into a metal like substance.
You are 100% right in every way. The only thing i slightly disagree with, is that for some odd reason i kinda like the design. I realize its ugly, im not blind, and i just barley see mechagodzilla in that image, but i like the legs and red eyes, and i like the idea that it vaguely looks like mechagodzilla because in reality there is no reason to build a mechagodzilla, you would just build a giant relatively human robot, which is still a stretch because the military would never do that anyway, which is why mechagodzilla couldnt work in the monsterverse, but it makes no sense in the anime because they still call it mechagodzilla, its legs are very reptilian it has a tail and simulates godzillas dorsal plates, but it doesnt look enough like mechagodzilla to be mechagodzilla, and add that on top of the fact they didnt even build him again, but used this big dumb ass city that cant move as a weapon, and yet still it was destroyed and everyone died, again, and were right back where we started. Fuck this movie, seriously this movie is garbage, i whipe my ass with this movies script.
Ya and easier considering they tried somthing similar in the prequel novels operation Great Wall which proved not to be successful so ether try to rebuild mechagodzilla or just settle the city as it’s pretty safe there incomparason
Omni Viewer it worked far better than mechagodzilla could've. The only reasons it failed was that haruo felt the price would be too high, and godzilla earth was able to stall them long enough by going into burning mode.
SkySlasher no it wouldn't be, a 300 meter mech would be far less efficient to make than the shielding, guns, harpoons, and trench, and it would be impossible to hide before it's finished. All you'd get would be a repeat of the first attempt to use mechagodzilla, and then they'd have to wait another 20,000 years to try again.
I want to believe that they could have animated him if they had simplified his ' rebuild ' to make it work. they animated the little mechs so why not simplify mechaG? they could have even taken some hints from Ready Player One for ideas on how. IT was such a shame they did what they did.....i hope the third is better but.......i'm starting to be very disappointed in the overall experiment that this is.
I honestly think it was all build up, hype, for fans, and poor un-justified writing. They probably thought the concept of making Mecha-Godzilla part of something more was a good idea than including him entirely as he always has been, which is a giant Robot that looks like Godzilla and the robot being used to fight Godzilla. In summary, the writer(s) thought it would be cool to give Mecha-Godzilla's character a new fresh concept, but in the end failed to justify how that concept worked for the character in the world of the narrative. This is a very common problem in a lot of modern movies today, they have all of these interesting and cool aspects happening and going on for characters and plots, but when you really think about them, especially from a Viewers standpoint, they don't make much sense or any at all. And your absolutely right, the narrative does fail to justify why Mecha-Godzilla couldn't be re-made and why none of the characters thought about it.
Here's my theory for why they didn't properly rebuild Mecha Godzilla: because the Aliens want a trump card to lord over the humans. Think about it, they are the only ones with in depth knowledge of the nano metal's capabilities, they know full well what the possibilities are. So why risk using it to destroy Godzilla outright, when in all likelihood they can use it at an opportune moment, like say when a certain Planet Eater and Godzilla are fighting and critically wounding each other. The Saludo get the killing blow, effectively removing both Godzilla AND giving the impression that they are the saviors of their human "allies" against a cosmic threat, when it truth, much like in Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, the aliens are plotting AGAINST humanity. So Godzilla will be critically wounded if not thought to be killed via wounds from Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla, the Saludo would reveal themselves for what they are, and just as Mechagodzilla is being used as an engine of enslavement and dominance, Godzilla will return and destroy it and all its nano metal. The humans will realize Godzilla is a force of nature and balance, accept he is beyond their abilities and leave him be, returning to space to colonize elsewhere. That's my theory for all this at least.
When watching the film, I noticed that you could replace Mechagodzilla's head with a super computer, and the film wouldn't be much different. Perhaps the reason Mechagodzilla wasn't in the film in terms of behind the scenes reasons may be that he wasn't originally going to be in the movie. Perhaps it would've been something like a super computer, but because they felt that Mechagodzilla would be more marketable, they decided to use his head and put him in the marketing so that more people would see it.
I suppose their thought process was that as long as they get money, who cares how many people get disappointed, right? I do feel it was wrong to put Mechagodzilla in the marketing just for money.
All the monsters and themes in this trilogy, so far, have been poorly used. I mean even Godzilla only shows up at the very end to roar a few times before stomping the protagonists into the dirt. No sense of suspense or build-up.
Galaxeus Oh yea, I guess I shouldn't compare an ancient dinosaur to a plant that happens to look like a dinosaur just because they have the same name and the same silhouette, you're right. Won't happen again. 2014 should have given Godzilla the same screen time as Grootzilla.
I think that they wanted yo include mechagodzilla bit they couldnt cuz TOHO rushed them, i mean, these movies have like 6 or 7 months of difference, and due to the design they need more time to animate him
Here's one of the things that was good but not fully explored and kind of bothered me about the movie... The idea is that the city ITSELF is supposed to be Mechagodzilla's new form; a monster in and of itself, and could potentially spread out all over and effectively consume the world. Even being WORSE than Godzilla... However, that idea doesn't get across because of a major reason... It's not really Mechagodzilla...it's the Nano-Metal. There's nothing intrinsically Mechagodzilla about it. The Nano-Metal feels like the REAL thing that is a danger here, and Mechagodzilla is just...an afterthought; he's a just the corpse from which this disease has spread. And that's a huge problem...and it could've been avoided if they had done just ONE thing... Mechagodzilla NEEDED a personality; I feel like in the Prologue, they should've had Mechagodzilla actually FIGHT Godzilla and lose, instead of just getting destroyed without a fight. AND they should've established that MechaG has an artificial intelligence. Perhaps MechaG could disobey orders given to it; perhaps it could actually talk and communicate with it's handlers... Then after 20K years, MechaG has been in a barely functioning state - effectively only acting on instinct, using the Nano-Metal to spread and survive, instead of the Nano-Metal acting autonomously. Then when they rediscover it in the movie, by powering-up MechaG's head again, reactivates MechaG's AI and sends it throughout the entire city. From that point, it's only a matter of time until the people realize that the City is alive. That THEY'RE not the ones in control of It, IT is in control of Them... I feel like this movie tried to be an Anime Horror movie using Godzilla characters, instead of being an actual Godzilla Film; but it didn't go through with it's concept, and everything else about it, just felt superficial.
I see your point but mechagodzilla couldn't even take a shot of godzilla's atomic breath back then, is it possible to up his durability maybe absorb/redirect the ray yes but as we saw in the movie godzilla can easily destroy the metal
Personally I feel that even with MechaGodzilla on the field, Godzilla would've won anyway. His atomic breath clearly proved too much for nanometal before, why would it be different now that he's even more powerful. And lets remember.....the characters really didn't have time to rebuild MechaGodzilla given Godzilla was just a few hours away from their location.
I thought that when the city failed that it would all come together and create the biggest (and ugliest ) Mechagodzilla ever than the movie turned and gave me the middle finger
Not yet. Had to take a very long break from ripping into this thing, lest this channel simply become the "I Hate The Anime Trilogy" Channel. The hinted-at theme will be discussed in an upcoming video, though.
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It could have probably been time, think about it the canons took approximately 20 minutes or longer to make each one and each were the size of the tanks, in order to make a 300 m tall Mechagodzilla it would take way longer to rebuild it it took over 20,000 years to make a facility but Mechagodzilla is different, he would need a constant power source it just for movement but for weapons, the movie did explain that if you stay close to the city the Vultures will have unlimited energy but how much energy will be required to power Mechagodzilla. Especially with his abilities
Wait a minute Omni, I know I have not seen the movie yet but just to be clear are you telling me that after all the hype after all the excitement the horribly designed merchandise the main spot on the posters, one of the greatest enemies that Godzilla has ever had to face who appeared in all 3 Series, and even got to American interpretations and everything else after all of that, you're telling me that it was actually all for nothing that it was literally just pointless? If that's the case then mega Godzilla should have had a cameo appearance or we use as a plot device which he basically was. He should not have been a focus character at least that's what they made him look like from all the advertising. It should have just been another element in the movie not a focus points. You said it man this anime experiment is doomed to fail. You know what the funny part about all this is? Toho Is So Gone hold about the Godzilla franchise they can go flat any of your videos for even having a picture or movie clip or even a still shot of one of their movies and file copyrights over it. They even shut down a seven-year production fan made movie well they said the movie could not be an hour long and all kinds of other stuff basically and made the whole thing went with us to do. You're right man they have all these monsters now but they have no idea what to do with them and now their movies keep taking on a terrible Direction. They got mad about the 1998 Godzilla movie for being disrespectful to the origin of the original yet they approved on it then they did not like a 2014 Godzilla for whatever reason granted it was a more successful 1 and even paid homage to the prehistoric origin of Godzilla and yet 2016 rolls around and Godzilla is a mutated bacteria? And now he's a giant tree? What's next in 2021 he's actually going to be a mutated man? Or how about a mutated crocodile no way that's what that fan movie had their Godzilla looking like a mutated crocodile. Or maybe he's going to be some kids pet lizard that unexplainably got exposed to massive levels of radiation and turned him into a giant phenom! What is all this this is they're screwing over their own best-selling franchise. You know what I'm sticking with you the American Douglas series is paying more respect to The Source material. More so than the actual owners who keep rewriting it every other movie and are always rebooting it every other film! This is this is madness!!!
I sincerely agree with you on that. I was just hoping for so much out of Toho since the 2014 Godzilla film, yet this is what we end up having so far. Oh well, at least we have Godzilla King of the monsters 2019
Moon Blast i think it’s because we felt cheated I would’ve let that go if the film we got was worth it but in the end it wasn’t and it feel into the same trap as before
SkySlasher For me this movie this alright. I don't think it's the best a Godzilla movie could be, but I don't think it's as bad as people say it is. But in terms of design, this Mechagodzilla is actually my third favorite. I'm not lying.
You know thinking about it the reason mechagodzilla isn’t in the movie may be budgetary concerns flawed reason or not it’s still possible and they just advertised mechagodzilla just to get butts in the theater seats and ya I see what you mean if the trilogy pulls this stunt again and it’s a complete financial success then that shows they could just pull a Michael Bay and put the monsters on a poster a bus a toy etc and barely show them if at all but we fall for it and give toho our money anyways and they can continue making Godzilla movies worse the Godzilla’s revenge here some hope toho doesn’t fall into the trap of at least audiences
If you want Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla I've got good news. There are 5 movies about that. But in all honesty, imagine if the nanometal controls Yuko and she in turn ends up controlling Mechagodzilla. As in she "fuses" with Mechagodzilla and basically becomes it's brain. Yuko has the nanometal repair Mechagodzilla and have it grow to size of Godzilla so that they can fight. Then in Planet Eater it can be Godzilla vs King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla. Or would it be MechaYuko?
Yeah, i know there have been previous movies where Godzilla has fought Mechagodzilla...and each one put a new spin on it while still delivering the goods. That a film realized in animation - a medium where literally anything is possible - decided to just say, "I don't wanna, so I ain't gonna," is an opportunity squandered. Interesting theory about Yuko, but I highly doubt that's what they'll do it, especially since doing so would undo the moral of City.
To my opinion of this Mechagodzilla design is terrible and it doesn't look like mechagodzilla at all it looks like crossover between Evangelion, and something else
I have a question for you: is Godzilla vs Destroyah a horror film? The reason I asked is so people think first before showing this to their kids. I know the film is not rated in the States, but when I saw this at the age of 8 or 10, it scared me so much I had nightmares and daydreams of human size crimson monsters attacking me like they did in the movie. Why was this film not given a PG or PG-13 rating?
I'd say it definitely has Horror film elements, Heck, it draws heavily from the first two ALIEN movies during the middle act, so I think it's fair to classify it as Sci-Fi/Horror.
BUT THE CITY IDEA IS BORING!!!!! I can understand the writers thought they were being different and 'original', but it really was boring just having Godzilla walk upto and attack a fuckin giant City, that even dwarfed him.
Best way to sum up nano metal is like summing up the plot of the metal gear games. "Nanomachines, son!" They are whatever the plot needs them to be
Tenno Shenaniganizer
To be fair, nanotech is quite absurd. Have you ever heard of something called "grey goo event"? What is shown in the second Godzilla anime movie is not too far off except what people imagine what would happen in real life is *FAR* worse. A grey goo event would take over the Earth in a week, probably less.
The problem is when authors try to put self-replicating nanomachines into their stories. If the plan is to save Earth, _no real scientist would risk a grey goo event._ The only actual magical thing about the nanomachines in the Godzilla anime is that when the humans first go to recolonize Earth and it's not a giant ball of metal. That does not make any sense.
extragirth64 I read an essay on grey gooing before. It compared how quick grey goo spreads to bacteria spreading in a jar. "If the bacteria has 24 hours to fill the jar, at what point is the jar half full? The answer is 23:59." Bacteria spreads with mitosis BTW (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 etc. Meaning it would've filled the jar completely in that final minute)
I guess that the nanometal spent most of the 20000 years breaking its limiter. Even after it does that, it need to assimilate material. Most science fiction also tells us nano machines assimilate organic material better than say solid rock. We see how quick the nanometal absorbed organic material but surrounding rocks were almost untouched, like it was ignoring it and just using it as a foundation
With all that in mind, I believe the nanometal was on the verge of an outbreak by the time the humans returned to take control of it
EDIT: Unless of course the metal was smart enough to remain concealed because it didn't think it could beat goji without human/belo intervention
Tenno Shenaniganizer
The real issue though is that the nanomachines in the Godzilla anime are technically an organism. It does not matter if it was specifically designed to attack Godzilla cells, it can mutate/evolve to eat something else instead. 1000s of years of self-replicating millions upon billions upon trillions of times and not having a single split-off species that decides to eat granite, cellulose or some other random material is insane.
Those nanomachines are singled-cell life, its ability to evolve quickly is very good, in fact as good as bacteria, maybe better. Machines are not perfect, computer programs are capable of change just like DNA.
I think they have time to read built-in Mecha Godzilla body
This is how I would've done the movie:
The remaining Earth Returnists find MechaGodzilla City. They decide to rebuild MechaGodzilla but doing so and having it be equal to Godzilla's current size may take some time and leave them vulnerable for attack but they proceed to do so seeing as Mecha-G was designed to conquer Godzilla in the first place. In addition, they create the Vulture Mechs to hold off Godzilla and give the Bilusaludo some time to build MechaGodzilla 2.0. Then, when Godzilla has Haruo, Yuko, and Belu-Be on the ropes, he is knocked aside by an energy blast as MechaGodzilla rises above the clouds and the movie ends with Godzilla and MechaGodzilla about to duke it out.
There, I just came up with a better storyline than anything Gen Urobutchi could _ever_ come up with. You're welcome.
Personally, I would prefer actually being able to see the fight, since that's basically what it's all building up to, but that's still a better plot than what we got from the movie.
Exactly what I would've done if I was in charge!
good, but i'm not waiting another movie to see them fight. i would do the battle in the same movie, unless you want to make a mechaG, godzilla, ghidorah royal battle... that would be cool.
It's still a better plot line than what Urubutcher gave us.
I was thinking of too but mine is sort of different though for Anime MechaGoji:
Why not make him like Trypticon from Transformers since both of them are monsters that turn into a whopping city. You got yourself a mobile base and a weapon at the same time.
They didn't rebuild mechagodzilla because they knew the omni Viewer hated its ugly design LOL
GojiKingdom2013 they really could just do a redesign as they rebuild mechagodzilla
Jurassic-KaijuVerse101 Minus the special effects. The roar and attacks are all wrong.
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The design can work
So, if they couldn't animated the Mechagodzilla they have, why not just make a new design that will hopefully be easier to animate?
The design looks cool
I know the movie hasn’t come out yet to make this comparison but to me here it is
Godzilla KOTM > Godzilla anime
So yeah lol
An army of 50 meter MechaGodzillas vs one 300 meter Godzilla sounds pretty cool.
Spencer Baxterzilla1954 I thick they did that in the comics
Kimberly Collier Not my favorite comic series.
They did that in the comic
I have literally asked that question to myself as soon as I found out about the metal and that they don’t rebuild mechagodzilla it really pisses me off
No joke I actually thought they introduced the metal as a way to get over the huge size difference between the to but no there’s nothing but I still don’t why that didn’t go anywhere
SkySlasher THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT, OMG i seriously dislike this movie and its plot. Its just not good, and insults the viewers intelligence. They set it up perfectly to have the biggest godzilla vs mechagodzilla brawl in history, and it would have totally made up for the fact that godzilla barely appeared in the first movie and most of the second, if they had that giant brawl i dreamed of. I remember thinking how the hell is mechagodzilla gonna be in this movie? It would have to be tiny, and then whats the point? So i went in thinking he would appear like the trailers said he would, because they did they showed mechagodzilla in the fucking trailer, and so i go in totally blind, find out about mechagodzilla city, think awe shit son its bout to get crazy up in here and then get the ultimate middle finger. Wow. I hate this movie honestly.
Revolutionary Cinema Productions agreed
Revolutionary Cinema Productions actually that was the vulture the winged mechs they used instead
Not to mention that the POSTER (the main point of advertising no less) WAS A LIE
I thought that too, I even thought the name Mechagodzilla City was a reference to the name Godzilla Earth, signifying how they’re both extremely massive and so the battle would be on a larger scale. I assumed by the end, they’d realize they needed Mechagodzilla to fight Godzilla and so the city would repurpose it’s buildings into a body in a last ditch effort. Up until the credits rolled I was hoping Mechagodzilla would show up and take him on, but alas, no such luck : /
The more I look at this "Mecha Godzilla", the more I find it to be a live action version of Bayformers Trypticon. The design has an uncanny resemblance to the designs found in those movies like parts jutting out everywhere.
Also that whole thing about the machine being so complicated and detailed, the robots in the Bayformers have just as much complications and details (if not more so) and the animators could animate many of them with almost no problem.
I'm guessing the crew just didn't want to add Mechagodzilla. If they did, then why didn't they create a simplified version? They could have kept the design (as ugly as it is) and create a newer version that's bigger and much easier to animate. The in-universe explanation could be that recreating Mechagodzilla with the original design would take too long, so they'll have to go with a simpler design. All of this hype about the robotic kaiju, showing everyone the full design in various mediums, and we don't even get a cameo of the full design. The first movie showed more than this one did. What the heck?
I can agree when I saw the film I felt like I was cheated I mean mechagodzilla takes up most of the poster so I mean who wouldn’t think he would show up not to mention it would’ve saved a certain character that dies at the end from their fate I mean in planet eater I wouldn’t be surprised if ghidorah only gets a cameo and mothra who should have hatched by then never even shows up
They may not have allowed Mecha-Godzilla to be built, because then he would have succeeded in killing Godzilla. Godzilla wouldn’t have been there for Void Ghidorah to fight.
I say Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle would have been a lot better if they had Mechagodzilla fight Godzilla. As said in the video, they could remake MG, and improve him. And also said in the video, it never got a chance to fight. Even if it ended with Godzilla basically becoming Burning/ Scarlet Godzilla Earth, I’d be ok with that if Mechagodzilla had at least some chance to fight.
I don't see how this anime mechagodzilla can be genuinely dangerous to the franchise. The franchise is huge. Books, comics, movies, tv series. Inconvenient and a forgettable footnote for the franchise but not genuinely dangerous. Besides, I think this third anime movie is going to be drowned out by Godzilla: King of the Monsters. The release date that Netflix will get will be too close to the release of the upcoming Legenday film. Any damage anime mechagodzilla might do should be thwarted by the new movie. Time will tell and I will watch your video on the topic regardless.
They can barely animate Godzilla, as featureless as he is. There's no way they could've animated something as complicated as that Mechagodzilla.
Great video. For me, what pissed me off was not so much that they completely redesigned Mechagodzilla so that he barely resembles Godzilla. I’m open to new ideas, and this was an interesting choice. What pissed me off was the fact that they went through all the trouble of redesigning Mechagodzilla and advertising it to the public only to refrain from doing anything with it at all. Why go through all the trouble of radically changing an existing character if you aren’t going to do anything with it anyway? The redesign was completely pointless. They could have easily used an updated version of one of his earlier designs from previous films for his appearance and it would have made no difference in the plot at all! Even if they couldn’t animate the thing, it still doesn’t excuse what they did, because it would be their own fault for creating an impractical design for the character. I may not have been the biggest fan of their design for Mechagodzilla, but I was still curious to see what this new Mechagodzilla could do. It would have been interesting to see how it worked in combat with Godzilla. That, for me, was the biggest let down if the movie. Like Planet of the Monsters, City on the Edge of Battle had an interesting idea behind it, but it failed to live up to the potential of that idea.
My head canon is that the MechaGodzilla A.I. worked on a replacement body in secret in case he would be found. When the events of COTOB happen, and MechaGodzilla City is obliterated, the new body flies out and initiates this fight with Godzilla Earth: th-cam.com/video/hM8bP3G3AVM/w-d-xo.html .
Assuming MechaGodzilla is confirmed dead, and will have no part to play in the third instalment, the only thing that changes is that we see a more bad ass fight.
Link for your leisure.
to be fair, we don't know how much more powerful Godzilla has gotten since these 20,000 years. Sure they said his atomic breath could pierce through the atmosphere, but's that's the only implication we got.
In the movie they said through natural selection, Godzilla was chosen by Earth.
What dose that have to do with the whole Mechagodzilla topic?
Hell u could go the extra step n make 3/4 bigger Mechagodzillas rather then 1 to deal with him
I think the whole thing about the animators not being able to animate mechagodzilla because it's overly detailed and complicated is a poor excuse. Michael Bay's transformers designs are just as detailed and complicated as anime mechagodzilla and they were all animated almost flawlessly. That just makes the anime seem lazy.
You forget that there's also an alternate strategy which seems like it will take much less time.
Current Day Look.
First of all, no, it was not impossible for Polygon to add in and animate Mechagodzilla. There is a fan animation made in MMD (MikuMiku Dance) where they animated a whole ass 18 minute fight scene between Godzilla Earth and Anime MG, not the City, the actual mecha. Granted the animations are a bit stiff but it's a fan animation, and a pretty damn good one compared to the trash Polygon gave us. It was entirely possible to simplify and modify the original model to be bigger, simpler, and maybe have more added weapons visible on it.
Second. The Bilusaludo are dumb for even taking Metphies word in regard to rebuilding MG. From the first movie, it's clear that the Bilusaludo all either have a distain for religion, or are all Atheistic and therefore would be put off, if not annoyed at the cult-like nature of the Exif, so the fact that Galu-Gu was willing listen to Metphies when plot reasons point towards Galu-Gu being more likely to dismiss Metphies idea is complete bullshit on Gen's part, and a result of terrible direction on Seishita's end.
Third. Even if they decided to go and rehash Haruo's plan and use Mechagodzilla City to execute it, why be solely reliant on just that one plan? You have an entire city's worth of Nanometal, the most advanced form of tech we've seen probably in the history of the Godzilla franchise at your disposal, and you do the minimum amount with it. If not rebuilding Mechagodzilla, why not use it for contingency plans in case if Haruo's plan were to fail? Why not have it recreate and construct more Vultures, or fully Automate the Vultures you already have? Why not try to use Mechagodzilla City to form a mass army of robotic mechs to fight Godzilla and overwhelm him with sheer numbers, which, fun fact, was actually a concept discussed in the directors commentary where Mechagodzilla City would've split/formed parts that could fly and combine with each other, and could ultimately combine with a Mechagodzilla to form a Giant Mechagodzilla. If not those, why not simply rebuild Mechagodzilla and improve it and use Haruo's plan as a way to stall Godzilla should he detect Mechagodzilla City? I felt that would've worked out way better since not only would they have at least one way to hold down Godzilla, but they could potentially have a weapon that could fight Godzilla with a contingency plan for a backup! It would've made the Bilusaludo and the non-kaiju cast seem much more competent and we also could've gotten a proper Anime Mechagodzilla interpretation, which if the wait for Godzilla Singular Point Season Two is any indictation, will probably be the ONLY Anime Mechagodzilla we'll see in a while, maybe ever.
Finally, to add the nail to the coffin, we actually DO get to see what Anime Mechagodzilla can do (sort of). In the books, or somewhere in there, they have a whole program which has the proposal for Anime Mechagodzilla, which details his abilities as well as some visual to go along with them. Although the visuals are only silhouettes of Anime MG with some of the described abilities, they're still there and from what I've seen, would have been great to use against Godzilla and it did genuinely look like Anime Mechagodzilla would have given Godzilla a good and hard fight had he not been destroyed. To list some of the abilities Anime MG had (and you can look this up yourself), this MG had.
1. A Convergent Neutron Cannon that would have essentially worked as a counter and mimic to Godzilla's Heat Beam.
2. A Hyper Lance capable of impaling Godzilla and injecting him with Nanometal which would've destroyed him from the inside out
3. A Tail Attack which could've sliced through Godzilla
4. A Blade Launcher on Mechagodzilla's back which would've launched guided blades at Godzilla
5. The Nanometal Particle Diffusing Type: Thermal Energy Buffer Layer, which we saw Mechagodzilla City use
6. The Laminated Heat Resistant Armored Plate, which we saw Mechagodzilla City unsuccessfully form, but in theory could've provided MG resistance and in combination with the Buffer Layer, complete protection from Godzilla's heat ray
Not to mention being able to regenerate and repair itself with the Nanometal it's made of. All of this could've made Mechagodzilla a genuine threat to Godzilla and yet Polygon was too lazy, Gen was too in his feels, and Seishita was too busy hating on "Traditionalists" to do anything of substance with Mechagodzilla at all.
I believe that they showed us instead of telling why they couldn’t just rebuild him.
1. This Godzilla showed us again and again that he is way too powerful for a new MegaG to even stand a chance against.
2. Godzilla defeated three monsters at once, survived 150 nuclear bombs falling on him,and destroyed gorwaff which is almost the size of the moon, these are expected in the prequel novels.
3. It would be impossible to deal with the heavy mass and keeping MegaG stable for a fight against Godzilla’s brute strength and power, no matter how many times they what they can do, even with MegaG’s ability’s.
What I’m trying to say is, I don’t believe there’s no reason as to why they didn’t do it and mefies argument does has some what a good point. If you all can just think about more, you might understand what I’m trying to say.
I thought that they didn’t rebuild it because the idea was too limiting. They could do more with the city itself by making it a huge trap like they did, and how would they have hidden a Machine of that size? It would probably need to be the same size as Godzilla, and I would think that would be pretty hard to hide even with the shield
Omni Viewer Are You sure JJ Abrams wasn't involved in the making of this anime trilogy?
I didn't see his name in the credits, but sometimes I wonder.
So the answer is No, I mean why would he be involved in this trilogy while he's busy working on the star wars trilogy?
You mean Rian johnson
@@methlokaijufan9729 That would be more accurate. He did nearly destroy the Star Wars franchise, so why not he destroy more of our childhoods.
Yeah but Metphis (spelling?) Is shady AF. He's already been manipulating all of them even prior to going to Earth. His reasoning could easily be called a TRICK. After all he certainly seems to think that Haruo is essentially Jesus and is manipulating events so that he can fight Ghidorah.
Oh, I know he's probably manipulating everyone, seeing as how he's being very obvious about it. The fact that everyone around him is dumb enough to fall for it without questioning him is a problem all its own.
Omni Viewer the short explanation is because the human characters are so terribly written in this trilogy that it makes the human characters in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah look good
The third movie is on Netflix as of today and Metphies just revealed he’s lying to everyone 🤷🏼♂️
MG didn't operate to fight Godzilla when he was 50 meters, so they wouldn't want to risk a 300 meter MG just standing there and not doing anything. They also didn't know how powerful Godzilla Earth was now, and time wasn't on their side. The City was already pretty much built, and all it needed was someone to guide it.
Edit: Just wanted to put it out there that Bandai Japan is making a Anime King Ghidorah figure....
There is however one question I have about the whole nanometal thing. If it's just an inanimate material, how was it able to create an entire city with buildings, weapons, computers and even a human-safe atmosphere?
Thank you!! I thought I was the only one who had noticed this glaring plot hole.
If you're strictly going off of Metphis's argument, completely understandable. But I feel almost sure even the Bilusaludo stated themselves something to the effect of "Why rebuild Mechagodzilla when we can mobilize this whole city and use its resources to fight Godzilla via material warfare?" In a way, they're not wrong. Let me put it this way; if you've seen Pacific Rim, recall the moment where Striker Eureka kills one of the kaiju with his chest missiles. If those were effective enough to kill a kaiju, why not just build a perimeter of those missiles and use those to kill any oncoming monsters instead of building a giant robot? It's something I feel like the writers WANTED to convey, it just didn't translate well into the script or people just don't get the idea.
Mechagodzilla City as a concept is a really damn cool idea. But I feel the biggest letdown is that the city doesn't have enough of Mechagodzilla. Like say, what if instead of the railguns seen with the tank-things, what if those were replicas of Mechagodzilla's oddly designed head? What if more of Mechagodzilla's planned weapons (like the Converging Neutron Cannon) were incorporated instead of generic blaster cannons? What if even the smallest of details, say the lights, were shaped like Mechagodzilla's eyes, making it look like he's always watching? So much more could've been done to really give MG City a sort of personality, but as is it falls flat because it just looks like a city.
On top of all this, I have an even better question. If Mechagodzilla went through the effort of rebuilding the original base of operations (and then expanding on it), why didn't Mechagodzilla rebuild himself in the process? Or even better, make a body double of himself? Sure, it'd probably be 50 meters because of default programming without the Bilusaludo's guidance, but it's something to think about.
Reason: Nanocloud is the ultimate Kaiju. Forget Gidorah, nanometal mechagodzilla is a Universe - level threat. And there's no way to balance it against any adversary (except a literal all-powerful God) without gaping plot holes and deus ex machina (no pun intended).
I think that they would have had to disconnect the heat from everything. They head would have to be built back into Mecha-Godzilla (since it houses the AI) and this would cause Mecha-Godzilla City to “die”. They couldn’t detach the head, as it controlled, powered, and managed the entire City.
If it was too hard to animate Mecha-G they could have remade his body and say that why he looks different is because the Nanometal remade his body.
I had the same question. I got really mad when they decided to just make a trap, the only good thing that came out is Burning earth Godzilla
I'm surprised they even kept that element considering how much it wanted to deviate from the original series. Even the 1998 movie did that better than the whole anime.
Could have been because it would have been a massive undertaking and too much time to rebuild it. Furthermore, the more sound strategy was to execute the same plan they did for mini-Godzilla. It worked the first time. So, naturally they would have thought it could work again. At least when they rebuilt the vultures and EMP harpoons, they had spare parts to work with.
I had an idea for this concept, if there is one Godzilla earth then there could be a other monster skeleton out there, they could build a kiryu style Mecha monster or even a whole fleet to fight Godzilla earth piloted by A.I so that way no lives would be lost
Something like a military drone of sorts but made out of all of the deceased monster that Godzilla and humanity have killed
He could easily shapeshift into something easier to animate because he's nanometal. So as far as I can tell there is no excuse.
they should of made Mechagodzilla look more and more basically like Godzilla in the anime series
I actually liked the idea of MechaGodzilla growing as a kind of disease for the Earth. Though I know a lot of people don’t like these films and I don’t mind! Like what you like, you do you!
If MechaGodzilla's design was complicated then couldn't they give MechaGodzilla a new, more simple yet flexible design like the READY PLAYER ONE design since they could've rebuilt him to be bigger than Godzilla was in CITY ON THE EDGE OF BATTLE? I mean some of the nanometal buildings are much larger than Godzilla and if they are hollow then MechaGodzilla could've been rebuilt in one of them.
One would think that could have been an option, but they decided against it.
Yeah, I mean the people don't even explore the whole city to see if any of the larger buildings are hollow and they don't have to worry about whether or not they could rebuild MechaGodzilla in another building since they were able to build weapons all over the buildings and even build a long row of guiding towers for Godzilla to walking into their pool trap along with 2 giant harpoons.
Apparently Toho Didn't want Kaiju battles as for it being hard to make Huge Battle being impossible Someone did it already on youtube type MMD Mechagodzilla vs godzilla earth. so its proven either Toho didnt want Kaiju battles or Polygon just hates Kaiju battles either way this was slap to the face to us fans of the series.
I'd say the reasoning given was actually pretty solid. They say that mechagodzilla could be rebuilt but they have no need to considering that they now know Godzilla's weaknesses and that their initial plan did indeed work. From what I can tell, mechagodzilla was intended to beat Godzilla with brute force and therefore was not effecient compared to their new plan. There is also the fact that your argument isn't a valid one I don't think. Because regardless of whether or not mechagodzilla was activated, he was still killed in one blast and considering he was the same size as godzilla I doubt he would have been fast enough to avoid atomic breath continuously. His durability was in question so therefore they opted to use smaller but faster machines. I'd also say that if you're gonna say that the movie never proves that their new plan in better because it ultimately fails, I'd argue that isn't true. We see in the first movie that the plan does indeed succeed in killing the first godzilla. And it would have worked in the second, the problem was that Haruo was not willing to sacrifice himself using nanometal to finally kill Godzilla. The movie emphasizes this greatly, it is the fault of Haruo, not the plan itself.
Enigmatic Strategist Haruo made the right call though. A world where mechagodzilla rules is even less survivable than a world where godzilla earth rules, you can at least hide from godzilla earth.
Tenebrio morio I don't doubt that. But my point was to point out tgat the argument presented in the video is flawed. Part of that was pointng out that the plan was fine, it would have succeeded but it was Haruo's resistance that caused it to fail. Regardless of whether it was a right choice or not, that fact remains.
Enigmatic Strategist I completely agree. Just wanted to make the Haruo point, because people have been villainizing him for not being a total Ahab.
Tenebrio morio Ah ok.
If they got it working no one will still be happy because its a awful design, fuck it! make mechagodzilla a city.
Fair point
they really like using small mechs against big g
maybe it is limitations of the medium
Considering animation is meant to be a medium without limits, it would be quite sad if that were the case.
So the design is so complicated that a youtuber were able to make an animation of it.
Now don't get me wrong, I agree with you on this, but I think the wording the Bilusaludo use is that yes they can rebuild MechaGodzilla, but why should they when they make even more ambitious weapons. It's still crap we don't get MechaGodzilla in the film, but it's also good to consider that Haruo's plan did indeed work in killing a Godzilla, so using the nanometal to build a larger version of a proven method vs. rebuilding a weapon that was never tested makes sense to me. I don't like it and wish we got MechaGodzilla, but I can kind of understand it.
Wait, why didn't they also use time travel from their space journey to use the same plan from the 1st movie to kill Godzilla earth before he grew and terraformed the earth?
GojiKingdom2013 that's not how time dilation works, they can't travel backwards.
They could have easily solved the whole magic metal bs by simply saying it converts anything (mainly godzilla's monsters and plants) it comes into contact with into more nano metal. Heck the whole I could forgive the mechagodzilla cop out by saying it would take too long to build and they don't have time (godzilla was close by and would probably noticed a him sized robot being built). The whole movie felt a bit rushed story-wise (like a first draft). Like they asked Gen to make to write a story in X amount of time and after he threw something together they simply said "good enough."
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, considering Gen's other works.
Org13fan1 they did say that it converts other substances(specifically anything that shares godzilla earth's DNA) into nanometal, in fact they showed it happening multiple times.
If it takes twelve hours to prepare shields, a emp weaponry, and a trench, what makes you think a 300 meter mech would be completed in a reasonable amount of time, without being noticed by the creature that obliterated a 30 kilometer meteor with the mass of the moon, when it was an infant. It would just be a repeat of what happened the first time. A movie shouldn't have to spell out the obvious.
Tenebrio morio true but it be better than the explantation they gave about it not being a match for Godzilla when they never used it. ( Not that it would last more than a few extra seconds) ; )
Org13fan1 they did however use gigan, who had nearly all of the capabilities of mechagodzilla, and while it did push him back a couple days, it was no match for the red spiral atomic breath.
I have a theory on how they could bring Mechagodzilla back (a weak theory and I doubt that its gonna happen buts its something that just ocurred to me)
what if Yuko (that bland character that kisses Haruo and enacts all the ship art) could control the remainder of the nanometal, IF she is still alive and create either smaller Mechagodzillas or a larger one. (again doubtful and probably won't happen.)
Dang, I really want to hear that future video on Anime MechaGodzilla now. Keep it up.
I say well done old bean! Another flawless execution.
if the design was so bad that they can not animated then why design it like that they really should have get there act to together by the way I have heard some where that king Ghidorah will be designed to look like it's made entirely out fire or some kind space energy I don't know if it's confirmed or speculation but if it is real it dose not sound good to me at least.
At least he won't be a giant cloud then. I hope he will actually fight Godzilla at least.
I thought the design was supposed to be an in progress sort of deal that we would see developing in the movie with a more traditional Mechagodzilla look at the end. Kind of like how Shin Godzilla's marketing only using the 4th form to avoid spoiling the metamorphosis plot, but in reverse.
I wouldn't be surprised if King Ghidorah isn't even in the damn movie.
Honestly...it’s bull crap...if the mecha Godzilla they made for the movie was too busy then why not
1. Rebuild Mecha-Godzilla
2. Improve him with more weapons and armor
3. As they build him, make him look more like Mecha-Godzilla!
What I find weird is the fact that the Earth us turning itself into metal like substance in response to Godzilla, yet there is a fear of Mecha Godzilla city escaping the valley and turning the world into a metal like substance.
You are 100% right in every way. The only thing i slightly disagree with, is that for some odd reason i kinda like the design. I realize its ugly, im not blind, and i just barley see mechagodzilla in that image, but i like the legs and red eyes, and i like the idea that it vaguely looks like mechagodzilla because in reality there is no reason to build a mechagodzilla, you would just build a giant relatively human robot, which is still a stretch because the military would never do that anyway, which is why mechagodzilla couldnt work in the monsterverse, but it makes no sense in the anime because they still call it mechagodzilla, its legs are very reptilian it has a tail and simulates godzillas dorsal plates, but it doesnt look enough like mechagodzilla to be mechagodzilla, and add that on top of the fact they didnt even build him again, but used this big dumb ass city that cant move as a weapon, and yet still it was destroyed and everyone died, again, and were right back where we started. Fuck this movie, seriously this movie is garbage, i whipe my ass with this movies script.
Didn't the Bilusaludo also say that the "execution ground" plan to kill Godzilla was better than rebuilding Mechagodzilla and having them fight?
Well, given that it still didn't work, their reasoning doesn't amount to much.
Ya and easier considering they tried somthing similar in the prequel novels operation Great Wall which proved not to be successful so ether try to rebuild mechagodzilla or just settle the city as it’s pretty safe there incomparason
Omni Viewer it worked far better than mechagodzilla could've. The only reasons it failed was that haruo felt the price would be too high, and godzilla earth was able to stall them long enough by going into burning mode.
Tenebrio morio that doesn’t make a difference it still would’ve been way more efficient to just rebuild mechagodzilla
SkySlasher no it wouldn't be, a 300 meter mech would be far less efficient to make than the shielding, guns, harpoons, and trench, and it would be impossible to hide before it's finished. All you'd get would be a repeat of the first attempt to use mechagodzilla, and then they'd have to wait another 20,000 years to try again.
I want to believe that they could have animated him if they had simplified his ' rebuild ' to make it work. they animated the little mechs so why not simplify mechaG? they could have even taken some hints from Ready Player One for ideas on how. IT was such a shame they did what they did.....i hope the third is better but.......i'm starting to be very disappointed in the overall experiment that this is.
They can't recreate mechagodzilla. they mentioned it in the movie
Yes they can just like they created the vultures
Methlokaijufan97 no the ballusido said they can't idk why
No, they did outright that they can recreate Mechagodzilla. It that blond alien dude that said that they should not make an another MechaGodzilla.
8 seconds in, yeah I’m sure Omni. *makes the next video* God dammit Omni! XD
They went from a mobile able to dodge weapons platform to a none mobile city.
I honestly think it was all build up, hype, for fans, and poor un-justified writing. They probably thought the concept of making Mecha-Godzilla part of something more was a good idea than including him entirely as he always has been, which is a giant Robot that looks like Godzilla and the robot being used to fight Godzilla. In summary, the writer(s) thought it would be cool to give Mecha-Godzilla's character a new fresh concept, but in the end failed to justify how that concept worked for the character in the world of the narrative. This is a very common problem in a lot of modern movies today, they have all of these interesting and cool aspects happening and going on for characters and plots, but when you really think about them, especially from a Viewers standpoint, they don't make much sense or any at all. And your absolutely right, the narrative does fail to justify why Mecha-Godzilla couldn't be re-made and why none of the characters thought about it.
Deadpool already gave you the answer
Here's my theory for why they didn't properly rebuild Mecha Godzilla: because the Aliens want a trump card to lord over the humans. Think about it, they are the only ones with in depth knowledge of the nano metal's capabilities, they know full well what the possibilities are. So why risk using it to destroy Godzilla outright, when in all likelihood they can use it at an opportune moment, like say when a certain Planet Eater and Godzilla are fighting and critically wounding each other. The Saludo get the killing blow, effectively removing both Godzilla AND giving the impression that they are the saviors of their human "allies" against a cosmic threat, when it truth, much like in Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, the aliens are plotting AGAINST humanity.
So Godzilla will be critically wounded if not thought to be killed via wounds from Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla, the Saludo would reveal themselves for what they are, and just as Mechagodzilla is being used as an engine of enslavement and dominance, Godzilla will return and destroy it and all its nano metal. The humans will realize Godzilla is a force of nature and balance, accept he is beyond their abilities and leave him be, returning to space to colonize elsewhere.
That's my theory for all this at least.
Cause we are an anime and we have to be edgy and different
When watching the film, I noticed that you could replace Mechagodzilla's head with a super computer, and the film wouldn't be much different. Perhaps the reason Mechagodzilla wasn't in the film in terms of behind the scenes reasons may be that he wasn't originally going to be in the movie. Perhaps it would've been something like a super computer, but because they felt that Mechagodzilla would be more marketable, they decided to use his head and put him in the marketing so that more people would see it.
So that more people would end up disappointed?
I suppose their thought process was that as long as they get money, who cares how many people get disappointed, right? I do feel it was wrong to put Mechagodzilla in the marketing just for money.
All the monsters and themes in this trilogy, so far, have been poorly used. I mean even Godzilla only shows up at the very end to roar a few times before stomping the protagonists into the dirt. No sense of suspense or build-up.
And people whined that 2014 had little screen time...
nexusshark This movies mistakes does not excuse 2014s. Do not compare apples and oranges.
Galaxeus doesn't excuse you Ethier, LOL. I guess you're not a true Godzilla fan
Galaxeus Oh yea, I guess I shouldn't compare an ancient dinosaur to a plant that happens to look like a dinosaur just because they have the same name and the same silhouette, you're right. Won't happen again. 2014 should have given Godzilla the same screen time as Grootzilla.
nexusshark Why don't we call Kiryu "Zombie Mechagodzilla" while we're at it?
By that logic they shouldn't have done the same plan they did from the first movie: OH WAIT!
Because live is a shatter glass and we canont be happy.
I think that they wanted yo include mechagodzilla bit they couldnt cuz TOHO rushed them, i mean, these movies have like 6 or 7 months of difference, and due to the design they need more time to animate him
Here's one of the things that was good but not fully explored and kind of bothered me about the movie...
The idea is that the city ITSELF is supposed to be Mechagodzilla's new form; a monster in and of itself, and could potentially spread out all over and effectively consume the world. Even being WORSE than Godzilla...
However, that idea doesn't get across because of a major reason...
It's not really Mechagodzilla...it's the Nano-Metal. There's nothing intrinsically Mechagodzilla about it. The Nano-Metal feels like the REAL thing that is a danger here, and Mechagodzilla is just...an afterthought; he's a just the corpse from which this disease has spread. And that's a huge problem...and it could've been avoided if they had done just ONE thing...
Mechagodzilla NEEDED a personality; I feel like in the Prologue, they should've had Mechagodzilla actually FIGHT Godzilla and lose, instead of just getting destroyed without a fight. AND they should've established that MechaG has an artificial intelligence. Perhaps MechaG could disobey orders given to it; perhaps it could actually talk and communicate with it's handlers...
Then after 20K years, MechaG has been in a barely functioning state - effectively only acting on instinct, using the Nano-Metal to spread and survive, instead of the Nano-Metal acting autonomously.
Then when they rediscover it in the movie, by powering-up MechaG's head again, reactivates MechaG's AI and sends it throughout the entire city. From that point, it's only a matter of time until the people realize that the City is alive. That THEY'RE not the ones in control of It, IT is in control of Them...
I feel like this movie tried to be an Anime Horror movie using Godzilla characters, instead of being an actual Godzilla Film; but it didn't go through with it's concept, and everything else about it, just felt superficial.
I see your point but mechagodzilla couldn't even take a shot of godzilla's atomic breath back then, is it possible to up his durability maybe absorb/redirect the ray yes but as we saw in the movie godzilla can easily destroy the metal
My guess is that they couldn’t animate the fight. lol
Or they just wouldn't. Look at the fight between Godzilla Earth and "King Ghidorah" in Planet Eater
Personally I feel that even with MechaGodzilla on the field, Godzilla would've won anyway. His atomic breath clearly proved too much for nanometal before, why would it be different now that he's even more powerful. And lets remember.....the characters really didn't have time to rebuild MechaGodzilla given Godzilla was just a few hours away from their location.
Here is a thing I learned from anime from years of experience. Anime: you don't question it.
I never said I liked it, it just feel that this is lazy compared to GOOD anime.
OR.
We get three 50m piloted Mechagodzilla's
The behind the scenes reason that mechagodzilla not being in the movie is obvious
The budget was to low
Subscribed for the meteor lol
I have an odd feeling that Galaxeus is the one who gave you trouble, lol.
I thought that when the city failed that it would all come together and create the biggest (and ugliest ) Mechagodzilla ever than the movie turned and gave me the middle finger
This film dared to be stupid and not in a good way
I agree with you 100%.
The Bilusaludo also gives a reason doesn't he?
I'm curious about the entire anime Godzilla video thing mentioned at the end, was that ever made?
Not yet. Had to take a very long break from ripping into this thing, lest this channel simply become the "I Hate The Anime Trilogy" Channel. The hinted-at theme will be discussed in an upcoming video, though.
Why be a robot Mecha? When you can be a God?
My question is why was he even in the movie. They put it all over and then nothing.
The theory I discussed on my channel is because they knew they had a garbage design they were ashamed of so they did what they did in the movie
Also plausible.
They could have rebuilt him to be less complicated
You know I was one of/the guy(s) who posited the animation issue.
I recall now that I see you again.
Hello again, I only just remembered this video an I think it's incredibly relevant to AniMechagoji
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tl;dw: Animechagoji desperately needed some smooth lines.
It could have probably been time, think about it the canons took approximately 20 minutes or longer to make each one and each were the size of the tanks, in order to make a 300 m tall Mechagodzilla it would take way longer to rebuild it it took over 20,000 years to make a facility but Mechagodzilla is different, he would need a constant power source it just for movement but for weapons, the movie did explain that if you stay close to the city the Vultures will have unlimited energy but how much energy will be required to power Mechagodzilla. Especially with his abilities
Maybe, but that strikes me as a plot-induced limitation.
Wait a minute Omni, I know I have not seen the movie yet but just to be clear are you telling me that after all the hype after all the excitement the horribly designed merchandise the main spot on the posters, one of the greatest enemies that Godzilla has ever had to face who appeared in all 3 Series, and even got to American interpretations and everything else after all of that, you're telling me that it was actually all for nothing that it was literally just pointless? If that's the case then mega Godzilla should have had a cameo appearance or we use as a plot device which he basically was. He should not have been a focus character at least that's what they made him look like from all the advertising. It should have just been another element in the movie not a focus points. You said it man this anime experiment is doomed to fail. You know what the funny part about all this is?
Toho Is So Gone hold about the Godzilla franchise they can go flat any of your videos for even having a picture or movie clip or even a still shot of one of their movies and file copyrights over it. They even shut down a seven-year production fan made movie well they said the movie could not be an hour long and all kinds of other stuff basically and made the whole thing went with us to do. You're right man they have all these monsters now but they have no idea what to do with them and now their movies keep taking on a terrible Direction. They got mad about the 1998 Godzilla movie for being disrespectful to the origin of the original yet they approved on it then they did not like a 2014 Godzilla for whatever reason granted it was a more successful 1 and even paid homage to the prehistoric origin of Godzilla and yet 2016 rolls around and Godzilla is a mutated bacteria? And now he's a giant tree? What's next in 2021 he's actually going to be a mutated man? Or how about a mutated crocodile no way that's what that fan movie had their Godzilla looking like a mutated crocodile. Or maybe he's going to be some kids pet lizard that unexplainably got exposed to massive levels of radiation and turned him into a giant phenom! What is all this this is they're screwing over their own best-selling franchise. You know what I'm sticking with you the American Douglas series is paying more respect to The Source material. More so than the actual owners who keep rewriting it every other movie and are always rebooting it every other film! This is this is madness!!!
Machine Dragon Nero I thought the same thing
I sincerely agree with you on that. I was just hoping for so much out of Toho since the 2014 Godzilla film, yet this is what we end up having so far. Oh well, at least we have Godzilla King of the monsters 2019
Don't you think you and everyone else are overreacting?
Moon Blast i think it’s because we felt cheated I would’ve let that go if the film we got was worth it but in the end it wasn’t and it feel into the same trap as before
SkySlasher For me this movie this alright. I don't think it's the best a Godzilla movie could be, but I don't think it's as bad as people say it is. But in terms of design, this Mechagodzilla is actually my third favorite. I'm not lying.
Good question
You know thinking about it the reason mechagodzilla isn’t in the movie may be budgetary concerns flawed reason or not it’s still possible and they just advertised mechagodzilla just to get butts in the theater seats and ya I see what you mean if the trilogy pulls this stunt again and it’s a complete financial success then that shows they could just pull a Michael Bay and put the monsters on a poster a bus a toy etc and barely show them if at all but we fall for it and give toho our money anyways and they can continue making Godzilla movies worse the Godzilla’s revenge here some hope toho doesn’t fall into the trap of at least audiences
They could build mechagodzilla anytime
5:30-6:13 years later fan made animations make it happen.
One Word: BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mephis probably said that because he might be evil. He just seems shady
If you want Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla I've got good news. There are 5 movies about that.
But in all honesty, imagine if the nanometal controls Yuko and she in turn ends up controlling Mechagodzilla. As in she "fuses" with Mechagodzilla and basically becomes it's brain. Yuko has the nanometal repair Mechagodzilla and have it grow to size of Godzilla so that they can fight. Then in Planet Eater it can be Godzilla vs King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla. Or would it be MechaYuko?
Yeah, i know there have been previous movies where Godzilla has fought Mechagodzilla...and each one put a new spin on it while still delivering the goods. That a film realized in animation - a medium where literally anything is possible - decided to just say, "I don't wanna, so I ain't gonna," is an opportunity squandered.
Interesting theory about Yuko, but I highly doubt that's what they'll do it, especially since doing so would undo the moral of City.
Omni Viewer I... Actually agree there. Even though Mechagodzilla 2 was extremely boring in my opinion, at least they did something with him.
Omni Viewer yuko fusing with mechagodzilla.....gen urobuchi plot twist....
Macronicus And then she kills Haruo because damnit my potato daughter deserves better love.
Moon Blast potato daughter?!? What does that have to do with potatos
The budget
To my opinion of this Mechagodzilla design is terrible and it doesn't look like mechagodzilla at all it looks like crossover between Evangelion, and something else
Yes literrally they fuck up the mechagozilla
Uhh, because Toho can't make Godzilla movies anymore!
I have a question for you: is Godzilla vs Destroyah a horror film? The reason I asked is so people think first before showing this to their kids. I know the film is not rated in the States, but when I saw this at the age of 8 or 10, it scared me so much I had nightmares and daydreams of human size crimson monsters attacking me like they did in the movie. Why was this film not given a PG or PG-13 rating?
I'd say it definitely has Horror film elements, Heck, it draws heavily from the first two ALIEN movies during the middle act, so I think it's fair to classify it as Sci-Fi/Horror.
BUT THE CITY IDEA IS BORING!!!!! I can understand the writers thought they were being different and 'original', but it really was boring just having Godzilla walk upto and attack a fuckin giant City, that even dwarfed him.
I thought it was going to be a plog twist... Wasted oportunity
Why? It was to subvert your expectations!
But it was executed poorly because is renders MechaGodzilla completely pointless.
A regular Plumbus And disrespect the fans