Because the government felt it was more important to try and protect children using the existing recommendations from the last inquiry than to launch another inquiry
Indeed. Even More sad that Tories and Reform Lied to you and betrayed you. As clearly stayed in the amendment, the purpose of it was to stop the bill altogether. Then they added a lot of words after that to betray you about their intentions. Look at the amendment. Labour tells the truth, Tories and Reform Lied. It us there in writing. They LIED.
@Grayson-y6l interesting, I'm genuinely trying to make sense of this recent stuff, since there's loads of confusion and super dramatic headlines and posts made by social media figures about a "cover up". For the people who do want another inquiry, what do they want to be inquired this time? Do they consider the last one to be insufficient? Do they want different things to be looked at this time? Or do they just want to do the same enquiry... again? I can't find a proper answer and it makes me question what people actually want?
@AaronTheGreat________ Both the Tories & Reform have jumped on the further inquiry bandwagon, for racist political reasons. Neither have offered meaningful actions, just demands for a further inquiry, before we have addressed the recommendations of the last one!!
We've already had several inquiries, the last one taking 7 years, costing nearly £200 million. The inquiry published a detailed 468 page report in 2022, which is in the public domain. That report made 20 recommendations, but the previous Tory government - of which Badenoch was part - implemented NONE of them. At least Labour are getting on with acting on that report with new, more stringent, laws... the first step of which was implemented in today's Bill.
We had an enquiry. It cost £220 million. The Tories didn't act on its recommendations. Starmer was the one who has done more to prosecute grooming gangs than anyone while he was the DPP. Stop listening to misinformation and conspiracy theories from the far-right.
@@alingard1 They are in with one in five adults voting for them. 20% of the adult population. They are on wafer thin ice and it is melting. Their dislike of the working class is obvious now . They wont get as many votes as last time! For a very long time because of this. I mean who wants to vote for a paedophile party? Enjoy it while you can. This has just made Labour defunct in the future.
@@rb1062 Sammy Woodhouse went to Reform Ltd with her story of abuse in Rotherham and, her words, they couldn't give a sh**. They can't take the moral high ground.
I’ve just listened to a victim on the radio. I was in tears. They are being shoved away by Labour as Starmer is terrified of what will be revealed. Truth could cost Muslim votes. It’s despicable deplorable depraved. I can’t be the only one to be utterly disgusted in our politicians. Implement the recommendations of the last review and give the victims the truth of what happened and force accountability on the people who should have helped them.
@@VadoVoodoolabour are doing the cover up. Starmer is hiding the truth, that’s why he threaten he’s MPs if their don’t vote against the inquiry. They get the whip taken away. I call it blackmail, n starmer knows he failed the victims. Otherwise he wouldtn object an inquiry. He was the top man director prosecution. At the time. Starmer out. Labour supporter are delusional. This is an outrage. Labour out.
Shame on all of them. This issue will never ever go away until it is dealt with comprehensively. It will linger like an open sore on the country for eternity. Lets hope the planned private inquiry exposes ALL those complicit from MP's to councillors to police the media and EVERYONE else.
It's amazing how none of you will even talk about the thousands of children abused by the church every year, but you are so focused on these alleged gangs
They want to action the instructions from the previous inquiry to help children NOW instead of further delaying it with another inquiry, why do you want to delay the implementations from the previous inquiry?
@@Hanloss Nope, you want to do what you did previously and silence the victims of your actions. What was it your MPs said? "they should stay quiet for the sake of diversity". You are beyond shame.
Having another public inquiry and not passing this bill . Would have kept the children in danger... Can have an inquiry later now that's how parliament works as I'm sure your aware .
@@poppypap596 Oh dear. That inquiry was into child sexual abuse and not about the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim's r8ping and torturing 11 year old girls. Why don't you want to find out why that is?
🙄 There's already been an inquiry 2022! 20 recommendations which the Tories did nothing about! Labour are now doing the work. Stop believing sh!t in our Tory biased toxic media. They omit vital info & twist things eg lie
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@@robster1073 It wasn't an inquiry into Pakistani Muslim r8pe gangs. What are you failing to understand about that basic fact. The 20 recommendations don't address the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim men r8ping and torturing little white girls.
No, because a further inquiry would only delay action against the last inquiry. The Tory amendment would only have addressed less than 3% of the abuse cases. I assume you don't care about the other 97%?!
@@1957hackie You should read it. It wasn't an inquiry into the specific issue of Pakistani Muslims r8ping and torturing girls as young as 11 en masse. Weird that you don't want an investigation into that specific issue. Why not?
Absolutely It's a s******e On bus other day .two young men threatening the driver to get a free ride then shouting obscenities and discussing buying drugs Bus full of oldies women . A society going down the gutter
@@wilhelm4321 This has been going on for more than 14 years - I didn't see Labour pushing for action during those 14 years. The vast number of councils where this is happening are/were Labour run. Thankfully Oldham have thrown that lot out of the door at last and that is why they have had the chance to request a new inquiry after previous attempts were stifled by the Labour councilors.
How ever are the cops going to investigate themselves with integrity, when so many of the victims were ignored by the very same cops. It’s a direct question from Channel4 to the POLICE… we’re not interested in the ‘partners’. You Mr Plod are the THIN BLUE LINE not the ‘partners’ I wonder if his daughter was a victim if he’d accept cherry picked stats on which category of victim deserves justice.
@@philthrelfall5294 Please tell me explicitly who is being prosecuted & what charges will be brought. Don't avoid the question tell me their names & what they did that facilitated the grooming of children. If "we already know the guilty parties" as Starmer said presumably they've already been prosecuted or they're current being prosecuted right? Labour & Starmer aren't just letting these people get away with it in order to avoid another inquiry are they?
You all seem to be getting an inquiry and a criminal investigation mixed up. ....YES to criminal investigation, NO to another inquiry. We've had 14 years of the conservatives " talking about doing something", let's actually DO SOMETHING!
@josephkerrigan733 In 2023 there were 4228 people prosecuted for group related sexual assault crimes against children in the UK. Which of these were you interested in specifically? Presumably just the 7% committed by those with a recorded "Asian" ethnic origin? Nobody is letting people "get away" with anything. This is all about making sure that victims are more willing to come forward and are supported when they do.
@@wilhelm4321 national injury? inquiry maybe? The last inquiry dealt with the Catholic Church, The Saville incident and examined 6 areas where this grooming was less of an issue than other places. This has to be an inquiry that covers the whole country not selected places which can be whitewashed over because the effects had less impact on the community. Stop ignoring what is going on. All the suggested actions from the last inquiry should be acted upon NOW and can be adjusted after a new inquiry if needs be.
@@wilhelm4321 No there hasn't. There's been an inquiry into the broader issue of child sexual abuse. There's never been a national inquiry into the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim men r*ping, drugging, and torturing white girls as young as 11. Why don't you want to find out more about this specific issue. Maybe you agree with the Pakistani Muslims and want to sweep it under the carpet.
@@wilhelm4321Pathetic sophistry and deflection. The problem is hundreds of thousands of perpetrators in a demographic Not a handful of Pervy priests Nice try at deflection .
There's already been a national inquiry, which took years to complete, cost hundreds of millions, and was published in 2022. The previous Government _which Badenoch was part of,_ implemented NONE of that inquiry's recommendations. At least Labour are getting on with implementing those recommendations into Law.
@ - 😆😆😆 .. an independent enquiry would show ALL the current/previous MP’s (including prime ministers) & police who were aware of what was happening throughout the UK but did/said nothing or were part of the cover up .. leaked memos prove brown & claire short knew EXACTLY what was going on but they made the decision not to take action, through fear of upsetting certain communities, & losing certain voters .. a bit like mr starmers decision not to prosecute Jim sav when he was in charge of the cps
Your happy to use these horrible crimes for another enquiry because you hope it will repeat your own views and say youre right. Without actually doing anything for the victims such as new laws for child protection would do.
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@@californiadreamin8423 The inquiry that was just used to cover up the scandal and brush it under the rug, you mean? Why do you lot rush to defend the indefensible for the sake of your multi-kulti delusions? Nonce-lovers and terrorist sympathisers and cretins, the lot of you
@@Vee-Hive Because it is very hard for a government to taken action on the last inquiry recommendations, when a further inquiry is in progress! Budgetary provisions could easily be over-turned, because the new inquiry 'might' place a different slant on things!? The Tories had 14 years and did very, very little!
@christopherrhead9274So that makes it OK then for Starmer to do nothing ? What sort of infantile logic is that that Starmer spouts ? Pathetic shin I cking sophistry and deflection . Typical barrister .
@@Lynnpjjbdndji Stop making this a left and right thing. They both failed. And it seems like many authority figures also failed these young victims but labour don't want to get to the bottom of that
20 recommendations from the 7 year enquiry and the Tories have not adopted a single one, now they want a second enquiry to put off any action for another 7 years, Starmer has said he would adopt all the recommendations of the first enquiry. Tories are such heartless twisters
There has already been an enquiry, it recommended 20 points to be implemented, the Tories accepted 18 but implemented zero. Badenoch has never raised CSA in parliament once, neither has she taken time to visit any of the victims! Instead, both the tories & reform use CSA as a political weapon, caring nothing about those victims!
I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry. A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent juts 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases. The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
@@josephkerrigan733 How can you call somebody dumb and be so stupid yourself. You seriously think that is what the Tories voted for? You literally just made up a load of cap that was at no point put forward as requirements for another investigation..... All that happened is it delayed kids being made safer. The folk demanding the truth, thinking there is some Labour conspiracy, when we just had the Tories in power for 14 years are morons. They could have brought it up at a different time, but they chose to screw over another bill. Most people outraged at Labour are completely ignorant of how our political system works. This was used as a political football to attract folk like you to the Tory party. What the end result of it will be, is abused children that could have been helped.
@@josephkerrigan733 Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@ you’re either ignoring my points because of ignorance or because it doesn’t play into your narrative! You’ve also misrepresented what I said, in fact, you’ve put words into my post that I haven’t said, which I find disgusting! Where have I said I don’t want those who failed the victims exposed? For that alone, you should be ashamed of yourself! The fact you can’t see that this has only become an issue for both the tories & reform since Musk got involved, shows me how gullible, bordering on stupid, some people really are!
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@@Yutrfhuukjgtujjif your good enough!!!...a "CON-lawyer" acting PM Starmer, COULD CHANGE ANY QUESTION...INTO 'HIS' OWN QUESTION!!! Do you watch, PM question time, EVER?
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@Grayson-y6l well maybe Starmer needs up his communications skills and go on TV and make that known . Instead of his attitude of obstinate slander towards the indigenous
Just when you think the political class can't sink any lower - they sink even lower. The conservatives had 14 years to order a full scale open inquiry. Labour policies could have gone ahead - along with a full open public inquiry. The only conclusion I can come to, is that they want very sensitive information to remain hidden. What else have they covered-up by simply omitting information? Honestly, what's the point of these people?
There was an enquiry, Starmer mentioned it himself, the Jay enquiry which was launched under Cameron. It took years to carry out, why do you want to wait another 7 years instead of carrying out the previous ones recommendations?
@@dominictemple you can do both you know, implement one set of recommendations and investigate further. The Jay report didn’t specifically look at gangs or explore who was involved in the cover up. We need the truth.
Both? Because the Tories and all of Musk’s followers are voting against enacting the Jay report’s recommendations. Musk is copying Trump’s behaviour on the US southern border, sabotage government legislation so you have something to complain about. Once the legislation is enacted, then we can talk about another near DECADE long inquiry.
@@darrennandrewfitness2836 WHO NEEDS PROOF...in ANYTHING these days?!?!? (Just make it up, as 'you' go along...like the press, media, police, MPs, even the PM himself...the WHO, BIS, IMF, BoE, FED, WEF...shall I keep going?) And, when you've burnt ALL evidence...say "you DIDN'T RECEIVE IT" & QUICKLY WALK FAST OUT THE DOOR!!! (LAST question to CON-lawyer acting PM: Starmer, Wednesday afternoon 8th Jan 2025, in parliament)
-Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
Labour want it buried, the Tories love the political leverage! This is about gangs that rape children, not ''groom'' them!! Put your differences aside and let's get to the truth.....for once I agree with Farage, somebody needs to dig deep, find the truth, and let the people of this country know what really went on, and let the victims have justice. You can't undo what was done to them, but you can give them closure of a kind, the truth!! Anybody that is afraid of that has something to hide??
Tories and Labour have failed little working class white girls. But you voted Labour didn't you. Even though Labour councils protected Pakistani r8pists.
14 yrs of the tories using inquiries to delay and hope people would forget. Now, using these poor victims as a weapon against Labour while giving themselves a pat on the back and a cheer.
What had the Conservative party done for this? This awful thing has brought up because it's Labor, otherwise it would be hidden forever!!! Please save victims and survivors.
No. It has been brought up because a foreign and influential man had enough, which means that the shill media can't ignore it anymore. The Tories are as guilty as Labour. But not anymore.
Tories had plenty of time to action on the last inquiry, but didnt, now they are jumping on it, says alot, Labour want to action on the last inquiry instaad of creating a new inquiry which would lead to more delay.
He's not at fault. In fact, it was he, as Director of Public Prosecutions, who made changes to the Crown Prosecution Service to bring the grooming gangs to justice.
Tories never asked for this during 14 years of power, or in the last 6 months of opposition. But sure lets bash Kier, the one guy in the room who is credited for his work in the last inquiry for advancing the prosectutions against the gangs. Makes perfect sense. Tories are a rich bunch, sure they could cobble up an enquiry if they finally care whilst the government write laws to protect children based on the previous recommendations.
But if it was wrong for the Tories not to do enough during their time in gov (notice how you ignore the labour gov preceeding it, and all he towns with labour run councils failing at this issue), how on earth is that an excuse for labour not to hold an inquiry now?
We need a tv or media to keep the pressure on the government to do the right thing this is one of the worst miscarriage of of justice the uk have known and the british people need help to find out who knew what was been cover up
@@richardmatthews7489 I think because if anyone asked for a public inquiry into the Catholic Church it would get pretty unanimous support. Meanwhile when you try to investigate grooming gangs that exclusively contained pakistani men suddenly the inquiry would be impossible & far too difficult & it's much better if all the police officers & social workers & councillors who were guilty just get away with their crimes because otherwise we might be seen as racist.
I thought this was about finding those in power who did not act and holding them to account? Oh nevermind its just about getting a report that blames muslims. And if the new enquiry doesnt say that youll want to waste another 200 million on another one.
Have any of the people having a go at the PM watched PMQs from today? Or read the bill? Or the Jay inquiry? I note that some of those commenting literally can't even spell the word inquiry.
No bots just decent honest human beings demanding a full and proper enquiry into who was complicit in helping these grooming gangs who were 90% from the religion of peace.
Interest headline, Channel 4, You could have said "Conservatives vote against immediate protections of children" but you didn't. Hoping for the Musk vote? Disgusting.
I know commenting here is screaming into the void, but there’s already been an enquiry and Labour unlike the Tories are going to enact the recommendations from it into law. If there was another one it would take years before any action could taken. That would delay protection of victims instead of actually protecting them.
This is good. Another inquiry would stop the gov from implementing the reccomendations from the last inquiry - WHICH THE TORIES NEVER DID. If you don't understand that I can't help you.
No it wouldn't, it would buttress the broader inquiry into child sexual abuse by including a deeper investigation into Pakistani Muslim r8pe and torture gangs. You know you can do two things at once, right? By the way Sammy Woodhouse, a survivor of Pakistani Muslim r8pe gangs has just called all the Labour MPs who voted against an inquiry "c*nts!" I guess you know more than her though. Well done.
Why? He's actually doing something about this, which is more than the previous Tory governments did, despite _several_ inquiries into child abuse/grooming having been published during their 14 years in power.
@@ftumschk I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry. A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent just 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases. The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
The world is watching Britain. Why is this being shut down ?
the muslim vote is too big to upset (that's what happens when you become the minority in all your big cities )
Your comment demonstrates you have zero idea about what you are so sure about.
Because the government felt it was more important to try and protect children using the existing recommendations from the last inquiry than to launch another inquiry
We just finished one enquiry in 2023, the Tories didn't act on it, Labour are acting on it.
Why do a 2nd enquiry, when we just did a 1st
this is good again they have ignored the people's desire for a proper enquiry and the facts are coming out daily , I see this as the end of labour
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@JanKowalski-h5n 😀
It is a RAPE Gang not grooming gang. Thanks. We failed the children!
When a country cannot protect its children that's when the country is finished.
Indeed. Even More sad that Tories and Reform Lied to you and betrayed you. As clearly stayed in the amendment, the purpose of it was to stop the bill altogether. Then they added a lot of words after that to betray you about their intentions. Look at the amendment. Labour tells the truth, Tories and Reform Lied. It us there in writing. They LIED.
Or a country that CAN but choose NOT to
Wasn't it Channel 4 that called it the "fake grooming gang scandal"?
Yes, then spread myths about "false accusations" and churches.
Rape gangs ..rape with violence was committed ..it went far beyond grooming .. this Subject is Starmers Kryptonite.. the question is why
Because a 7 year inquiry was completed in 2022
@Grayson-y6l interesting, I'm genuinely trying to make sense of this recent stuff, since there's loads of confusion and super dramatic headlines and posts made by social media figures about a "cover up".
For the people who do want another inquiry, what do they want to be inquired this time? Do they consider the last one to be insufficient? Do they want different things to be looked at this time? Or do they just want to do the same enquiry... again? I can't find a proper answer and it makes me question what people actually want?
@roseanncampbell3168 An inquiry that focused on everything except the actual perpetrators, the Islamic community.
@Grayson-y6l "teach kids about consent, Christian's bad" is a worthless inquiry.
Just another deflection and you've gobbled it up.
Labour don't want answers, seems strange, I wonder why.
What did the Tories do, over the last 14 years, to find answers / take action?
@@philthrelfall5294why are u blaming the tories 😂 both are as bad tories and the red tories VOTE REFORM
@@philthrelfall5294 Well done, you've just realised that the political class are depraved. You still voted Labour though, didn't you?
@@nemz7505 you're totally misunderstanding the issue but please carry on being ignorant 😔
@AaronTheGreat________ Both the Tories & Reform have jumped on the further inquiry bandwagon, for racist political reasons. Neither have offered meaningful actions, just demands for a further inquiry, before we have addressed the recommendations of the last one!!
Please publish the names of every Labour member who voted against an enquiry.
Yessss 👏
Okay misinformation bot.
There already was one. It lasted for 7 years, and the Tories never adopted the 20 recommendations.
time to start fixing it not just talking for years
We've already had several inquiries, the last one taking 7 years, costing nearly £200 million. The inquiry published a detailed 468 page report in 2022, which is in the public domain. That report made 20 recommendations, but the previous Tory government - of which Badenoch was part - implemented NONE of them. At least Labour are getting on with acting on that report with new, more stringent, laws... the first step of which was implemented in today's Bill.
An enquiry would show how many MP’s (including prime ministers), police, social workers etc were aware of the cover ups .. shower
Claims are not facts.
You do realise the conservatives were the ones in charge.
Why didn’t the previous inquiries by the Tories in their 14yrs in govt reveal all of these? Seems the Tories are the kings of cover-up.
@ - you just keep your head buried from the facts poppet
We had an enquiry. It cost £220 million. The Tories didn't act on its recommendations. Starmer was the one who has done more to prosecute grooming gangs than anyone while he was the DPP. Stop listening to misinformation and conspiracy theories from the far-right.
Labour will never get back in. Never
Hello. They’re in NOW mate. Big weird saying they’ll never get back in when they’re actually, errrr, in….
Brilliant.
made me laugh out loud. Thanks!!!
Shut up torie
@@alingard1Again imply they wont be reelected..
@@alingard1 Future tense proposition.
No gold star for you .🙄
@@alingard1 They are in with one in five adults voting for them. 20% of the adult population.
They are on wafer thin ice and it is melting.
Their dislike of the working class is obvious now .
They wont get as many votes as last time! For a very long time because of this.
I mean who wants to vote for a paedophile party?
Enjoy it while you can. This has just made Labour defunct in the future.
All the 364 MPs are a disgrace.
Not all! There are 5 Reform MPs who are head and shoulders above the rest.
@@rb1062you are complicit to the raping of children
Im still voting reform but it seems Nigel is sort of apart of these lot elon is most likely right we need new reform leader
@@rb1062 Sammy Woodhouse went to Reform Ltd with her story of abuse in Rotherham and, her words, they couldn't give a sh**. They can't take the moral high ground.
They have names and addresses
I’ve just listened to a victim on the radio. I was in tears. They are being shoved away by Labour as Starmer is terrified of what will be revealed. Truth could cost Muslim votes. It’s despicable deplorable depraved. I can’t be the only one to be utterly disgusted in our politicians. Implement the recommendations of the last review and give the victims the truth of what happened and force accountability on the people who should have helped them.
So what will be revealed sounds like you know please tell us all
@@poppypap596 You've just read that a victim was in tears because of this vote. You are a disgusting person.
It seems they value a muslim vote more than anyone else's vote, they will loose in future
@@poppypap596 you this labour apologist... go and calm down before you start supporting gr*pe indirectly
Yes they rely more on the postal votes. The kids are failed again
Whoever said no is just as disgusting as the grooming gangs and should not be there
they should be ashamed of themselves.
The Tories? Yes, they should.
@@VadoVoodoolabour are doing the cover up. Starmer is hiding the truth, that’s why he threaten he’s MPs if their don’t vote against the inquiry. They get the whip taken away. I call it blackmail, n starmer knows he failed the victims. Otherwise he wouldtn object an inquiry. He was the top man director prosecution. At the time. Starmer out. Labour supporter are delusional. This is an outrage. Labour out.
@@VadoVoodoo Its not even about Tories or Labour...They all have their own vested interests and now we need a change from this bent two-party race...
@@VadoVoodoo14 years of inaction
@@wilhelm4321 No, there was in inquire that took 7 years and produced 20 recommendations that the Tories ignored when in power
Shame on all of them. This issue will never ever go away until it is dealt with comprehensively. It will linger like an open sore on the country for eternity. Lets hope the planned private inquiry exposes ALL those complicit from MP's to councillors to police the media and EVERYONE else.
Wrapping your avatar in a little union jack does not make you even close to being right.
@@VadoVoodoo 🥱🥱🥱
It's amazing how none of you will even talk about the thousands of children abused by the church every year, but you are so focused on these alleged gangs
@@VadoVoodooare a Pakistani by any chance 🤔
@ 250, 000 white girls raped by Pakistani men who shouldn’t even be in this country, what about that?
And yet channel 4 about to air a programme about false accusations.
A very poor leader. UK sinking.
it's already at rock bottom thanks to 14 years of tory lies and corruption
Cameron, Johnson, May lol these were the people in charge, but you want to blame Keir.
@@wilhelm4321 He literally was the person in charge...
@@wilhelm4321Starmer was in charge of the CPS when all this blew up.
@@rb1062and he sorted it out, is that what you’re pointing out?
They can fool themselves, the folk can see it for what it is.
The trolls make it twice as blatant and more severe too.
and the folk will do jack shite, so victory for them
Anyone else being censored for having strong opinions about this!?
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Wow 😳 so the children are to stay in danger ?
They want to action the instructions from the previous inquiry to help children NOW instead of further delaying it with another inquiry, why do you want to delay the implementations from the previous inquiry?
@@Hanloss Nope, you want to do what you did previously and silence the victims of your actions. What was it your MPs said? "they should stay quiet for the sake of diversity". You are beyond shame.
What about the altar boys? Oh, I forgot, doesn't fit your narrative
They will stay in danger if there's another inquiry.
Having another public inquiry and not passing this bill . Would have kept the children in danger... Can have an inquiry later now that's how parliament works as I'm sure your aware .
Reminder that Channel 4 reported the grooming gangs as "fake"
I'd love to know more
Absolutely Evil to vote against a public inquiry .
There has been one by the Tories which they ignored and never implemented the 20 recomendations people just wake up
@@poppypap596 Oh dear. That inquiry was into child sexual abuse and not about the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim's r8ping and torturing 11 year old girls. Why don't you want to find out why that is?
🙄 There's already been an inquiry 2022! 20 recommendations which the Tories did nothing about! Labour are now doing the work. Stop believing sh!t in our Tory biased toxic media. They omit vital info & twist things eg lie
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@@robster1073 It wasn't an inquiry into Pakistani Muslim r8pe gangs. What are you failing to understand about that basic fact. The 20 recommendations don't address the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim men r8ping and torturing little white girls.
They blocked it because they knew all about it years ago , one big cover up as usual.
No, because a further inquiry would only delay action against the last inquiry. The Tory amendment would only have addressed less than 3% of the abuse cases. I assume you don't care about the other 97%?!
There was an inquirie into it, Check it out
@@philthrelfall5294 Not true - recommendations can be implemented immediately and then re-examined, adjusted, updated e.t.c. after a new inquiry.
@@philthrelfall5294 explain why that bullshit you're spouting makes any sense.
@@1957hackie You should read it. It wasn't an inquiry into the specific issue of Pakistani Muslims r8ping and torturing girls as young as 11 en masse. Weird that you don't want an investigation into that specific issue. Why not?
Frightened of the TRUTH being told, the MP'S who voted for no inquiry need to be named
They will be named in parliament records available publically
Britain is sick. Very sick.
Britain is not sick ... British so called leaders are sick
Absolutely
It's a s******e
On bus other day .two young men threatening the driver to get a free ride then shouting obscenities and discussing buying drugs
Bus full of oldies women .
A society going down the gutter
AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
That the tories have done nothing about this the last 14 years, yes I agree...total disgrace
@@wilhelm4321 This has been going on for more than 14 years - I didn't see Labour pushing for action during those 14 years. The vast number of councils where this is happening are/were Labour run. Thankfully Oldham have thrown that lot out of the door at last and that is why they have had the chance to request a new inquiry after previous attempts were stifled by the Labour councilors.
You obviously know everything think about this
@@wilhelm4321 Pathetic to make it a partisan issue. Too stupid to realise the Cons and Labour are both depraved and corrupt to their core.
@@wilhelm4321The Tories commisioned numerous inquiries, and inplemented some of the recommendations. Are you ignorant or just a Labour Party shill.
How ever are the cops going to investigate themselves with integrity, when so many of the victims were ignored by the very same cops.
It’s a direct question from Channel4 to the POLICE… we’re not interested in the ‘partners’. You Mr Plod are the THIN BLUE LINE not the ‘partners’
I wonder if his daughter was a victim if he’d accept cherry picked stats on which category of victim deserves justice.
Why? Because he is taking action, rather than sitting on it for the last 14 years, like the Tories have!?
@@philthrelfall5294 Please tell me explicitly who is being prosecuted & what charges will be brought. Don't avoid the question tell me their names & what they did that facilitated the grooming of children. If "we already know the guilty parties" as Starmer said presumably they've already been prosecuted or they're current being prosecuted right? Labour & Starmer aren't just letting these people get away with it in order to avoid another inquiry are they?
You all seem to be getting an inquiry and a criminal investigation mixed up. ....YES to criminal investigation, NO to another inquiry. We've had 14 years of the conservatives " talking about doing something", let's actually DO SOMETHING!
@ukscooby653 100%!!
@josephkerrigan733 In 2023 there were 4228 people prosecuted for group related sexual assault crimes against children in the UK. Which of these were you interested in specifically? Presumably just the 7% committed by those with a recorded "Asian" ethnic origin? Nobody is letting people "get away" with anything. This is all about making sure that victims are more willing to come forward and are supported when they do.
Duh curly locks. A national enquiry would expose everyone involved regardless of their political affiliation.
There has already been a national injury into this issue. You really want to help kids? Advocate an inquiry into the church.
@@wilhelm4321 national injury? inquiry maybe? The last inquiry dealt with the Catholic Church, The Saville incident and examined 6 areas where this grooming was less of an issue than other places. This has to be an inquiry that covers the whole country not selected places which can be whitewashed over because the effects had less impact on the community. Stop ignoring what is going on. All the suggested actions from the last inquiry should be acted upon NOW and can be adjusted after a new inquiry if needs be.
@@wilhelm4321 No there hasn't. There's been an inquiry into the broader issue of child sexual abuse. There's never been a national inquiry into the specific issue of Pakistani Muslim men r*ping, drugging, and torturing white girls as young as 11. Why don't you want to find out more about this specific issue. Maybe you agree with the Pakistani Muslims and want to sweep it under the carpet.
@@wilhelm4321 like you morally bankrupt atheists are any better
@@wilhelm4321Pathetic sophistry and deflection.
The problem is hundreds of thousands of perpetrators in a demographic
Not a handful of Pervy priests
Nice try at deflection .
Why did kier starmer,Rachel reeves,Angela Rainer ,David lammy and ed Miliband abstain on this vote ?
Wait till I speak to my local Labour MP.... Disgraceful
I remember this news reporter she was the most woke left liberal news reader .... she used to call out Poland for not taking in any illegal immigrants
Surprise surprise .. no thought at all for the innocent victims
There's already been a national inquiry, which took years to complete, cost hundreds of millions, and was published in 2022. The previous Government _which Badenoch was part of,_ implemented NONE of that inquiry's recommendations. At least Labour are getting on with implementing those recommendations into Law.
@ - 😆😆😆 .. an independent enquiry would show ALL the current/previous MP’s (including prime ministers) & police who were aware of what was happening throughout the UK but did/said nothing or were part of the cover up .. leaked memos prove brown & claire short knew EXACTLY what was going on but they made the decision not to take action, through fear of upsetting certain communities, & losing certain voters .. a bit like mr starmers decision not to prosecute Jim sav when he was in charge of the cps
@@ftumschkyeah right!take a look at labour mp’s,you will see why they voted no
@@ftumschk At last understanding without idiots like Reform or the Tories conveniently forgetting the facts.
Your happy to use these horrible crimes for another enquiry because you hope it will repeat your own views and say youre right. Without actually doing anything for the victims such as new laws for child protection would do.
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This decision is horrifying.... I wamt to be sick
Which decision might that be ? To ignore all the recommendations of the enquiry which has already been held , is that what you’re suggesting.
Why do you want to further delay help to the victims to have ANOTHER enquiry?
@@californiadreamin8423 The inquiry that was just used to cover up the scandal and brush it under the rug, you mean? Why do you lot rush to defend the indefensible for the sake of your multi-kulti delusions? Nonce-lovers and terrorist sympathisers and cretins, the lot of you
@@Hanloss Why do you see it as an either/or situation?
@@Vee-Hive Because it is very hard for a government to taken action on the last inquiry recommendations, when a further inquiry is in progress! Budgetary provisions could easily be over-turned, because the new inquiry 'might' place a different slant on things!? The Tories had 14 years and did very, very little!
The people are angry
I'm Irish and even I'm disgusted for what your government did today.
Props on the Irish people for at least attempting to deal with the migrant issue.
Kier was right tories did nothing
@christopherrhead9274 Both parties are to blame..Terrible for those children
@christopherrhead9274So that makes it OK then for Starmer to do nothing ?
What sort of infantile logic is that that Starmer spouts ?
Pathetic shin I cking sophistry and deflection .
Typical barrister .
PASS the CHILD PROTECTION BILL, not more delays with a 2nd Inquiry
14 years and now conservatives care ..... Disgraceful politics !!!!!
@@Lynnpjjbdndji Stop making this a left and right thing. They both failed. And it seems like many authority figures also failed these young victims but labour don't want to get to the bottom of that
20 recommendations from the 7 year enquiry and the Tories have not adopted a single one, now they want a second enquiry to put off any action for another 7 years, Starmer has said he would adopt all the recommendations of the first enquiry. Tories are such heartless twisters
Something to hide ?
@@waltermcphee3787 Investigating the failures of authority would not stop the suggestions from the last inquiry being actioned.
What does starmer have to hide? 🤔
alot, so hide your children in the basement till this is over, cause its gonna get worse
England has fallen. RIP.
Time for you to move to a facist country
Time for you to move to Israel
@@ilyasVatime you went back to where you come from then,racist
@@ilyasVa rich coming from a non english fellar
@@ilyasVa are you defending the grooming gangs..
There has been coverups
Shameless. Utterly unfit to govern.
Evil Labour
You complicit MPs think this will go away???? The people will decide when this ends!
Yeas
KemyBadnock is making a lot of noise now Hypocrite should resign and be jailed as well
There has already been an enquiry, it recommended 20 points to be implemented, the Tories accepted 18 but implemented zero. Badenoch has never raised CSA in parliament once, neither has she taken time to visit any of the victims! Instead, both the tories & reform use CSA as a political weapon, caring nothing about those victims!
as a fellow flaming O i agree, but as the upper post said, you can"t expect them to vote to investigate themselves
I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry.
A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent juts 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases.
The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
@@josephkerrigan733 How can you call somebody dumb and be so stupid yourself.
You seriously think that is what the Tories voted for? You literally just made up a load of cap that was at no point put forward as requirements for another investigation.....
All that happened is it delayed kids being made safer. The folk demanding the truth, thinking there is some Labour conspiracy, when we just had the Tories in power for 14 years are morons.
They could have brought it up at a different time, but they chose to screw over another bill. Most people outraged at Labour are completely ignorant of how our political system works. This was used as a political football to attract folk like you to the Tory party. What the end result of it will be, is abused children that could have been helped.
@@josephkerrigan733 Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@ you’re either ignoring my points because of ignorance or because it doesn’t play into your narrative! You’ve also misrepresented what I said, in fact, you’ve put words into my post that I haven’t said, which I find disgusting! Where have I said I don’t want those who failed the victims exposed? For that alone, you should be ashamed of yourself! The fact you can’t see that this has only become an issue for both the tories & reform since Musk got involved, shows me how gullible, bordering on stupid, some people really are!
Protecting all the labour councils that turned a blind eye and abandoned those innocent kids 😞
Scarmer has lots to hide , get rid of him now
Tell us then
Disgusting
Corruption. Back handers.
What a pathetic situation
Total disgrace
Labour government is a threat to our society.
I feel sorry for the families who have suffered.
😢😢😢😢
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
@@robster1073All the more reason for a new enquiry with greater powers
Be here now .
hold on i heard them say that talking about sexual grooming was Islamophobic
No one said that Andy
@@Yutrfhuukjgtujj are you living under a rock?
@@Yutrfhuukjgtujjif your good enough!!!...a "CON-lawyer" acting PM Starmer, COULD CHANGE ANY QUESTION...INTO 'HIS' OWN QUESTION!!!
Do you watch, PM question time, EVER?
Rape used as a weapon is not OK
Non of them care
England is cooked when they can't or won't invegate this
That feeling of being let down by your government!!
Starmer must RESIGN
LoL!
@@gerrabathwhat is funny?
Grow up.
@@dr_ned_flanders you on the register ?
@@gerrabath I know you are on the register
EVIL LABOUR
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
This is what happens when you vote for the type of person that protected Jimmy Saville.
The Tory party is dead. Where do I send condolences and flowers?
The graveyard
Where was the tories in those 14 years when they had a flippin majority..
exactly supreme leader
So that makes Starmers decision ok then ?
@Grayson-y6l I give up with Britain .
@Grayson-y6l well maybe Starmer needs up his communications skills and go on TV and make that known .
Instead of his attitude of obstinate slander towards the indigenous
@Grayson-y6l I'm not concerned with what Tories do
I'm concerned what Starmer Does Not Do.
National Scandal.
Just when you think the political class can't sink any lower - they sink even lower. The conservatives had 14 years to order a full scale open inquiry. Labour policies could have gone ahead - along with a full open public inquiry. The only conclusion I can come to, is that they want very sensitive information to remain hidden. What else have they covered-up by simply omitting information? Honestly, what's the point of these people?
Yes. I've seen a clip of Boris Johnson when he was MP saying money thrown at CSA would be " Spaffing money up the wall". Tories did nothing either.
@@linnyXYZ it's 2025. Only labours ilk are still playing the labour vs tory game.
There was an enquiry, Starmer mentioned it himself, the Jay enquiry which was launched under Cameron. It took years to carry out, why do you want to wait another 7 years instead of carrying out the previous ones recommendations?
@@dominictemple you can do both you know, implement one set of recommendations and investigate further. The Jay report didn’t specifically look at gangs or explore who was involved in the cover up. We need the truth.
Both? Because the Tories and all of Musk’s followers are voting against enacting the Jay report’s recommendations. Musk is copying Trump’s behaviour on the US southern border, sabotage government legislation so you have something to complain about. Once the legislation is enacted, then we can talk about another near DECADE long inquiry.
Starmer win because of this groomin gang vote
Send us ur proof 😂😂😂😂
@@darrennandrewfitness2836 WHO NEEDS PROOF...in ANYTHING these days?!?!?
(Just make it up, as 'you' go along...like the press, media, police, MPs, even the PM himself...the WHO, BIS, IMF, BoE, FED, WEF...shall I keep going?)
And, when you've burnt ALL evidence...say "you DIDN'T RECEIVE IT" & QUICKLY WALK FAST OUT THE DOOR!!! (LAST question to CON-lawyer acting PM: Starmer, Wednesday afternoon 8th Jan 2025, in parliament)
@@darrennandrewfitness2836 here we go starmer supporter and anti british google it you fin proof
-Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
Labour want it buried, the Tories love the political leverage! This is about gangs that rape children, not ''groom'' them!! Put your differences aside and let's get to the truth.....for once I agree with Farage, somebody needs to dig deep, find the truth, and let the people of this country know what really went on, and let the victims have justice. You can't undo what was done to them, but you can give them closure of a kind, the truth!! Anybody that is afraid of that has something to hide??
Yes I agree
My brother turn to jesus step into the ocean of his love
Only through christ can you love those children to get them to salvation
Oh my total nonsense convictions whaa
Enough is enough
The tories always want inquiries, it just delays and delays, we have an inquiry that made 20 recommendations and we need to act on them.
you couldn't have made this video any more confusing and uninformative. if all news reporting was like this, nobody would ever know anything.
Bad Enoch's first big policy is jumping on the Musk bandwagon?
Of course! She plans to lead Reform!
The Tories didn't want to do anything whilst in power for 14 years. Only when they're in opposition.
Funny how that keeps happening.
Tories and Labour have failed little working class white girls. But you voted Labour didn't you. Even though Labour councils protected Pakistani r8pists.
Every anti white party needs to go. Racism against British by Muslims is out of control
14 yrs of the tories using inquiries to delay and hope people would forget. Now, using these poor victims as a weapon against Labour while giving themselves a pat on the back and a cheer.
What had the Conservative party done for this? This awful thing has brought up because it's Labor, otherwise it would be hidden forever!!! Please save victims and survivors.
No. It has been brought up because a foreign and influential man had enough, which means that the shill media can't ignore it anymore. The Tories are as guilty as Labour. But not anymore.
Labour are revolting
Oh and the Tories are all wonderful get your head out of the sand
Both are appalling get your head out of it too
@@TraceyFrancis-h6k the Tories never implemented the twenty recommendations tell me why
Keir Starmer shame on u. Shame on u. U need to be voted out ASAP.
Guess C4 are happy. Shame om you!
Tories had plenty of time to action on the last inquiry, but didnt, now they are jumping on it, says alot, Labour want to action on the last inquiry instaad of creating a new inquiry which would lead to more delay.
Will Labour commit to deporting the Muslim communities that covered this up? If not they should be arrested
Ofcourse, Starmer wont admit fault, as usual
He's not at fault. In fact, it was he, as Director of Public Prosecutions, who made changes to the Crown Prosecution Service to bring the grooming gangs to justice.
@ftumschk Calm down there Mrs Starmer.
There is NO FAULT to admit. The enquiry has already been held. Having another enquiry will only delay things further, hurting the victims even more.
@@VadoVoodoo Yeah, couldn't possibly do both, eh?
@@Vee-Hive. You want to spend more money unnecessarily, and delay implementing the long list of recommendations already made.
Tories never asked for this during 14 years of power, or in the last 6 months of opposition. But sure lets bash Kier, the one guy in the room who is credited for his work in the last inquiry for advancing the prosectutions against the gangs. Makes perfect sense.
Tories are a rich bunch, sure they could cobble up an enquiry if they finally care whilst the government write laws to protect children based on the previous recommendations.
Tories are asholes 💕
❤
But if it was wrong for the Tories not to do enough during their time in gov (notice how you ignore the labour gov preceeding it, and all he towns with labour run councils failing at this issue), how on earth is that an excuse for labour not to hold an inquiry now?
We need a tv or media to keep the pressure on the government to do the right thing this is one of the worst miscarriage of of justice the uk have known and the british people need help to find out who knew what was been cover up
Yes there was a cover up, by the Tories, Labour are trying to undo that mess by implementing the enquiry that has ALREADY been held you muppet.
Children need protection now not after another enquiry get a grip
Cynical opportunitsm by the Tories
This is not good enough.
Channel 4 YOU ARE A DISGRACE!! Calling these crimes FAKE!! I will never watch you again!!!
Now do the Catholic Church.
Bet if they do you'll see priests on the news talking about it
Who's defending and covering up the catholic church?
@ it was literally covered up! lol. And why not equal media coverage?!
@@richardmatthews7489 I think because if anyone asked for a public inquiry into the Catholic Church it would get pretty unanimous support. Meanwhile when you try to investigate grooming gangs that exclusively contained pakistani men suddenly the inquiry would be impossible & far too difficult & it's much better if all the police officers & social workers & councillors who were guilty just get away with their crimes because otherwise we might be seen as racist.
"Mistakes will be made"... Police forces will be bent.. Victims will be shunned and called stupid little tarts or racists. Etc etc.
If only Elon could made ambassador to the UK
This channel has alot to answer too
The ones that voted it down are no doubt complicit…. 😉
Lets move on. No accountability needed. All is fine. We must not say or do something that might be perceived as racist. No .. we mustn't.
I thought this was about finding those in power who did not act and holding them to account? Oh nevermind its just about getting a report that blames muslims. And if the new enquiry doesnt say that youll want to waste another 200 million on another one.
Have any of the people having a go at the PM watched PMQs from today? Or read the bill? Or the Jay inquiry? I note that some of those commenting literally can't even spell the word inquiry.
The bots are out in force in the comments.
There has been an enquiry, the findings now need implementing in full.
*inquiry….learn to spell.
Meanwhile, the inquiry didn’t specifically look at gangs or the cover up. That’s what now needs to be investigated.
Sadly people won’t Google events and will just accept Twitter as gospel.
No bots just decent honest human beings demanding a full and proper enquiry into who was complicit in helping these grooming gangs who were 90% from the religion of peace.
@@kinyemibola4386 shush, bro
Yep, full-name-plus-indecipherable-code username, you're definitely not a bot.
Because Starmer was attorney General at the time it was reported
Interest headline, Channel 4, You could have said "Conservatives vote against immediate protections of children" but you didn't. Hoping for the Musk vote? Disgusting.
Mind Ur business
You horrible human.
Nigel will do an inquiry, the truth will out
I know commenting here is screaming into the void, but there’s already been an enquiry and Labour unlike the Tories are going to enact the recommendations from it into law. If there was another one it would take years before any action could taken. That would delay protection of victims instead of actually protecting them.
This is good. Another inquiry would stop the gov from implementing the reccomendations from the last inquiry - WHICH THE TORIES NEVER DID. If you don't understand that I can't help you.
No it wouldn't, it would buttress the broader inquiry into child sexual abuse by including a deeper investigation into Pakistani Muslim r8pe and torture gangs. You know you can do two things at once, right?
By the way Sammy Woodhouse, a survivor of Pakistani Muslim r8pe gangs has just called all the Labour MPs who voted against an inquiry "c*nts!"
I guess you know more than her though. Well done.
Cult behaviour
Cult behaviour from the left wing also
Keir Starmer makes Jeffrey Epstein look like an amateur.
An open secret island vs a entire nation.
Yeah, he does make him look like amateur
Channel 4 should just merge with BBC pdfs now. Starmer has to be sacked with the front bench
Why? He's actually doing something about this, which is more than the previous Tory governments did, despite _several_ inquiries into child abuse/grooming having been published during their 14 years in power.
@@ftumschk Well said, too much disinformation and ignorance flooding these threads..
@@ftumschk I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry.
A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent just 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases.
The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
Tory MP Imran Ahmed Khan convicted and imprisoned in 2022 for grooming and assaulting a minor -the same year the Tories 7 year enquiry ended and they ignored the entire 20 recommendations of their own enquiry
I'm surprised they left the comment section open, usually they don't want to hear from the people while they cover things up.
WONDER WHY