Do you like the black background? I've been messing around with my camera's settings to get better white balance and stuff....so I figured I would give a black backdrop a shot to see how it looks. I kind of like it.
The black background works really well, I didn't even notice it until you said! Just a side note: I'm pretty certain that 'flat base' isn't a varnish, but used to Matt down gloss and satin paints by adding varying amounts. 'flat clear' is the Matt and, obviously, 'gloss clear' is the gloss. Tamiya's semi gloss is X-35 'semi gloss clear'. Keep up the good work fella 👍
No, Flat Clear is not matte. It is satin. It is between "flat" and "clear" which tamiya use for matte and gloss, respectively. It's what I sprayed onto the model and it's not matte. You also can use Flat Base as a varnish as I have done in the past, but it's not ideal. I'm mainly just using it as a visual aid of matte to demonstrate my point.
Yeah Tamiya flat clear is their matt its just not really matt. The flat base is to add to gloss paints to make them matt. Tamiya do a semi-gloss which is their satin.
Thanks Ian for this tutorial, i will safe this video in my tutorial playlist. If any viewer of my videos, have questions about an oil washes, i can recommend your video to him. Stay safe! Greetings from Germany
Great tutorial, it was a treat watching you apply the wash over the turret and see all those details come to life. You and Martin have different approaches, but both of you are superb modellers. Keep up with your great work and stay safe.
Superb video and just what I needed 👍 You covered everything very thoroughly, thank you I like the black background, it seems to highlight the model better. Thanks again and stay well.
Great video. Important topic that answers a lot of my questions. The black backdrop (Blackdrop) really brings out the Dark Yellow and Red Brown. Nice touch. Now I need to find out what the difference is between AK White Spirit and AK odourless thinner.
I love your videos although I do not agree on the enamel washes, I have been using vallejo washes for 5 years now and they work just fine for me. They don’t destroy my previous paint layers but they are a bit hard to clean up, you have a point there🙂
Having you and Night Shift both work on a tiger at once shows different possibilities of how to do something like being conservited on washing Zimmerit vs not being. Edit: You him also cool.
Many thanks for a most interesting video. I've been using Longlife floor polish for sealing my models, predominantly aircaft. Do you think that this will be suitable for enamel washes? Regards, Mike
I am not sure. Those floor polishes are not meant to be permanent; they're meant to be stripped easily. So you have to be careful that whatever wash you use isn't going to strip the polish.
Wash came out great. I had to double-take on that close-up of you holding the cupola. Looks super-realistic. Had a good chuckle when you “finger-wagged” the acrylic paints. 😂
Thank you. That was extremely informative. Explains how I managed to ruin my current model using acrylic washes and thinners over acrylic paint and varnish. Regards
Once I apply dust and oils later on it should be toned down more. I usually like a dark wash if I'm doing dust effects later....we will see how it goes.
Yes, Tamiya Panel Liner is just an enamel wash product like those from AK and Mig, etc. I have never personally tried the Tamiya Panel Liner but I have heard lots of positive things from people who have used it.
Since washes and filters are enamel based, why not simply use a few drops of Humbrol or Revell enamels diluted in some white spirit instead of using artists oil paints. Makes sense to me.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks panzermeiter, I have been watching and listening to you for 2 year now. Your amazing! Building, painting and the tutorials are impressive. I'm 57 was in a bad motorcycle accident and lost eighty percent use of my right hand. So this is much harder for me. But with some practice I will perciver!
X-21 isn't a great matte. It usually fogs up. It's meant to mix into glossy paints, not spray on its own. Use Testors Dullcote or Mr Super Clear or VMS matte, etc.
Do you have to wait a bit before cleaning up the excess wash with enamel thinner or do you clean it up immediately? Thank you and very informative video.
Hi all. To you all for the great advise. Was just wondering if someone could tell me why once I've primed and painted my model with acrylic and want to glue things on afterwards, my paint gets damaged. I'm using tamia cement with white cap. Please advise.
The Tamiya glue will melt paint because it's a chemical welding type of glue. If you're going to glue parts onto a painted model then you should use super glue instead for those parts.
is it the same procedure with soft skins (trucks , jeeps, ..) as with the tanks? i am painting now a opel blitz truck .. kind regards and greetings from Belgium..
Oh, thank you! Well, perhaps right now might not be the best time since the postal services here aren't working very well due to the virus. Which country do you live in?
Am i the only one that doesn´t think that a darker wash should be applied on DG colored zimmerit? The wash looks great all over the tank but not on the zim.
Certain airbrush acrylics like Vallejo can be thinned or reactivated with airbrush thinner. Personally, I hate enamels with a passion so I'm stuck doing acrylic washes. It's just quite a bit harder- work in small areas and touch it up with the thinner ASAP.
@@Panzermeister36 well, after a certain point of drying the acrylic won't reactivate as easily. I experimented this a bit on a spare model and enamel pin washes are much safer, easier, and better looking. And yes, it does cause the varnish to peel. 0/10 do not recommend scrubbing hard at all
The screens shot, at 50 seconds into video showing X-21, XF 86 and X22 lined up, is what I based my using Tamiya X-21for my final matt finish on my 2 month long build of a Zvezda Panzer IVG. In your video X-21appears to be presented along with it's medium finish and gloss counterparts, so......naturally..... I had used a lot of your techniques and the finish turned out perfect. My best build to date. Then I totally ruined it in the end with the X21 leaving the model with a frosty snow like surface . I'm beyond mad right now. First, please tell me what went wrong. Dilution was 3-1 thinner to paint. There is no real information about using X-21 on the internet except horror stories. My fault in the end but I never saw this one coming.
I've used X-21 in the past as matte before. Thin it down super thin with lacquer thinner, apply it in very thin coats, and avoid spraying too much into corners where you'll get frosting. If you've got build-up of frosting you can just rub it off with a brush apparently. It's just talcum powder.
@@Panzermeister36 i use model master lacquer satin varnish, for paint, i most mostly Ammo mig or Mr Hobby(both lacquer & aquerous type) depend on the color. For Enamel, i mostly use aritst white spirit /ordorless thinner. After thinking for a while, i really do thing this cause by Model master vanish, i not have this issue when i use some left over Gaia not varnish in my few first project
@@Panzermeister36 hello, i thought x-21 is not a varnish but a additive to get glossy colours matt and the tamiya semi gloss is x-35. Anyway, great tutorial as always, thank you.
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Do you like the black background? I've been messing around with my camera's settings to get better white balance and stuff....so I figured I would give a black backdrop a shot to see how it looks. I kind of like it.
So much better, makes the model really stand out and its clearer to see what you are doing and how that effects the look of the model.
Looks great man
Black background is excellent.
Hows distilled turpentine I use that with my washes
It really helps the lighter colored vehicles pop out. It could be an option to use a white or lighter colored backdrop for dark vehicles.
SECOND!
Bloody knew it , you two did this last time
Showoff.
Eye of the tiger
Great tutorial! I find oils much better and forgiving than enamels (probably because of long drying time).
The black background works really well, I didn't even notice it until you said!
Just a side note: I'm pretty certain that 'flat base' isn't a varnish, but used to Matt down gloss and satin paints by adding varying amounts.
'flat clear' is the Matt and, obviously, 'gloss clear' is the gloss.
Tamiya's semi gloss is X-35 'semi gloss clear'.
Keep up the good work fella 👍
No, Flat Clear is not matte. It is satin. It is between "flat" and "clear" which tamiya use for matte and gloss, respectively. It's what I sprayed onto the model and it's not matte. You also can use Flat Base as a varnish as I have done in the past, but it's not ideal. I'm mainly just using it as a visual aid of matte to demonstrate my point.
Yeah Tamiya flat clear is their matt its just not really matt. The flat base is to add to gloss paints to make them matt. Tamiya do a semi-gloss which is their satin.
Thanks Ian for this tutorial, i will safe this video in my tutorial playlist. If any viewer of my videos, have questions about an oil washes, i can recommend your video to him. Stay safe! Greetings from Germany
Thank you :)
Man ... what do you say when you receive an excellent lesson in that subject in which you are very weak? MANY THANKS !!!
Can the Tamiya Flat Clear that u use be thinned with acrylic thinner or water?
Acrylic thinner should also work fine. Not sure about water though.
watching a wash be applied is one of those oddly satisfying things
Yes and what's even better is watching how Mig oil paint goes well with Wilder enamel thinner😉.
Send by Uncle Night shift. All is nice except of dark wash on zimmerit, I know it is thing of taste but i would go with much lighter color.
Hello! I agree it is dark, but once we apply dust it will be toned down and should look alright. I hope at least :)
I like a dark gray brown mix...
Great tutorial, it was a treat watching you apply the wash over the turret and see all those details come to life. You and Martin have different approaches, but both of you are superb modellers. Keep up with your great work and stay safe.
Superb video and just what I needed 👍
You covered everything very thoroughly, thank you
I like the black background, it seems to highlight the model better.
Thanks again and stay well.
black back grounds matter
Uncle Night Shift sent me...
Great video. Important topic that answers a lot of my questions. The black backdrop (Blackdrop) really brings out the Dark Yellow and Red Brown. Nice touch. Now I need to find out what the difference is between AK White Spirit and AK odourless thinner.
Why wouldn’t you paint the tools/accessories before varnishing?
I love your videos although I do not agree on the enamel washes, I have been using vallejo washes for 5 years now and they work just fine for me. They don’t destroy my previous paint layers but they are a bit hard to clean up, you have a point there🙂
Having you and Night Shift both work on a tiger at once shows different possibilities of how to do something like being conservited on washing Zimmerit vs not being.
Edit: You him also cool.
Very nicely filmed buddy! A joy to watch :)
Thank you Michael :)
Just like somebody said: "Tuesday is a good day". Hope you're fine buddy, in these though days.
Can't beat the panel wash it really brings a model to life!
Thank you Shane!
Nice video.
Many thanks for a most interesting video. I've been using Longlife floor polish for sealing my models, predominantly aircaft. Do you think that this will be suitable for enamel washes? Regards, Mike
I am not sure. Those floor polishes are not meant to be permanent; they're meant to be stripped easily. So you have to be careful that whatever wash you use isn't going to strip the polish.
Nice job! But in the zimmerit I would prefer a more diluted wash. I'm always watching and learning with you and Mark Kovac. Thanks a lot!!
When I apply dust effects later, it will tone down the wash on the Zimmerit :)
I 100% agree on the turret and sides, but Meisters work on smalls and chipping was spot on.....very good videos every time sir.
Wash came out great. I had to double-take on that close-up of you holding the cupola. Looks super-realistic. Had a good chuckle when you “finger-wagged” the acrylic paints. 😂
Thank you Bruce!
Beautiful
Would using an acrylic wash and thinner not matter if you varnish the model as you did with satin varnish?
No, the satin varnish is also acylic based just like your base paints, so the wash will likely harm the varnish as well.
Is this an "unofficial" collaboration? Nice job btw.
Thank you. That was extremely informative. Explains how I managed to ruin my current model using acrylic washes and thinners over acrylic paint and varnish.
Regards
yeeea first to watch. :D
Great work as always!!!
Better to use brown oil paint on the Zimmerit, would not be so stark.
Once I apply dust and oils later on it should be toned down more. I usually like a dark wash if I'm doing dust effects later....we will see how it goes.
I use to use diluted black wash but hav changed to lighter brown on zimmerit and not to stark even with a good dusting.
What are your thoughts on using Tamiya Panel Liner as a wash? Is is enamel based?
Yes, Tamiya Panel Liner is just an enamel wash product like those from AK and Mig, etc. I have never personally tried the Tamiya Panel Liner but I have heard lots of positive things from people who have used it.
Don't forget Plasmo😉❗
Since washes and filters are enamel based, why not simply use a few drops of Humbrol or Revell enamels diluted in some white spirit instead of using artists oil paints. Makes sense to me.
...VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO...WELL LAID OUT...VERY HELPFUL, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Outstanding work & video. Really enjoyed this.
Thanks for the great videos! I followed your magic track assembly guide last night and i got my best result so far.
Fantastic!
Your awesome! I have x-35 semi gloss will that work for the wash?
It should work for the semi-gloss surface just fine :)
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks panzermeiter, I have been watching and listening to you for 2 year now. Your amazing! Building, painting and the tutorials are impressive. I'm 57 was in a bad motorcycle accident and lost eighty percent use of my right hand. So this is much harder for me. But with some practice I will perciver!
You didn't mention shis kebab sticks! Otherwise nice video
Thanks for the explanation about how you use thinners and why
After finishing the whole model is it okay to apply the X-21 to get rid of the little shinyness of the the x-86 ?
X-21 isn't a great matte. It usually fogs up. It's meant to mix into glossy paints, not spray on its own. Use Testors Dullcote or Mr Super Clear or VMS matte, etc.
@@Panzermeister36 thx
Very Helpful and a Joy to Watch, Thanks !!!!!! Almost forgot to mention that the black background does indeed seduce your subject to POP !!!!!!!
Thank you for the feedback
Thanks for this awesome and detailed Video!
Do you have to wait a bit before cleaning up the excess wash with enamel thinner or do you clean it up immediately? Thank you and very informative video.
I usually do it pretty much right away. The wash dries in a few minutes.
Hi all.
To you all for the great advise.
Was just wondering if someone could tell me why once I've primed and painted my model with acrylic and want to glue things on afterwards, my paint gets damaged. I'm using tamia cement with white cap. Please advise.
The Tamiya glue will melt paint because it's a chemical welding type of glue. If you're going to glue parts onto a painted model then you should use super glue instead for those parts.
Thanks for all the hints and tips.
Tony
Hi, thank you for the video -- excellent work. Question: were the extras (tools, cables) on a tank's exterior installed before camouflage was painted?
I still haven't painted the tools yet. Generally I don't think they were painted over, but I've seen that sometimes they were.
Outstanding workmanship my friend, I built this kit years ago and couldn't come close to what you did. Keep up the good work.
Thank you :)
is it the same procedure with soft skins (trucks , jeeps, ..) as with the tanks? i am painting now a opel blitz truck ..
kind regards and greetings from Belgium..
The technique should be the same on any model :)
What thinner should I use if I painted my tank in Tamiya lacquer paint
LP 55
Same rules as I applied on my model. Enamel thinner is your best option.
I have over 1500 model kits how do I go about donating some to you
Oh, thank you! Well, perhaps right now might not be the best time since the postal services here aren't working very well due to the virus. Which country do you live in?
USA.... I have a lot of doubles of kits ....
Dragon
Panthers
Elefant tanks
Tamiya tanks
Aircraft
Quick Tip- Apply a black wash around movable parts, like hatches, doors, and vision slits to make them look deeper than the rest of the details.
Fantastic build Evan👍👍 I need to use oils again. But I'm a bull in a China shop when I use it.🤣🤣🤣
Thank you!
Love your video thank you!!!!
Learned a few things! Love the black background! Look forward to your next!
Thank you!
Am i the only one that doesn´t think that a darker wash should be applied on DG colored zimmerit? The wash looks great all over the tank but not on the zim.
It's there for the shadows. Once I apply dust it will be toned down.
Thank you! Great lessons!
Looking good, excellent video 👍
fantastic video, please allow me a question : for a satin/semi matt varnish couldnt you mix gloss and flat varnish at a ratio 1/1 ?
Yes that should work for a satin varnish :)
Hey panzermeister I wanted to know, do you normally use a mask when you paint and work with enamels/oils?
No I don't. The Wilder thinner I use doesn't really have any odor.
Certain airbrush acrylics like Vallejo can be thinned or reactivated with airbrush thinner. Personally, I hate enamels with a passion so I'm stuck doing acrylic washes. It's just quite a bit harder- work in small areas and touch it up with the thinner ASAP.
But won't the airbrush cleaner also reactivate your base acrylics? Even acrylic varnishes?
@@Panzermeister36 well, after a certain point of drying the acrylic won't reactivate as easily. I experimented this a bit on a spare model and enamel pin washes are much safer, easier, and better looking. And yes, it does cause the varnish to peel. 0/10 do not recommend scrubbing hard at all
Evan you forgot the wheels ;)
I never pinwash the wheels. Useless because I'm going to apply mud there later.
what is the most matt varnish out there that you have used?
Hmm, I usually use Testor's Dullcote. But there is also AK's "Ultra Matte" varnish which I hear is good.
The exhausts haven`t been weathered, have they?
They had not been when I did this video. But I have another video I've done more recently on the exhausts for this Tiger.
Night Shift is gonna beat you up for applying a wash in the Zimmerit
Nah, looks fine on my end. I'm going to apply dust which will tone it down. We will see later..
@@Panzermeister36 Yeah I think your wash doesn't make the zim too stark, further processes should tone it down nicely
Semi gloss clear is x-35!
I find that's still too smooth. XF-86 is perfect in my experience.
The screens shot, at 50 seconds into video showing X-21, XF 86 and X22 lined up, is what I based my using Tamiya X-21for my final matt finish on my 2 month long build of a Zvezda Panzer IVG. In your video X-21appears to be presented along with it's medium finish and gloss counterparts, so......naturally..... I had used a lot of your techniques and the finish turned out perfect. My best build to date. Then I totally ruined it in the end with the X21 leaving the model with a frosty snow like surface . I'm beyond mad right now. First, please tell me what went wrong. Dilution was 3-1 thinner to paint. There is no real information about using X-21 on the internet except horror stories. My fault in the end but I never saw this one coming.
I've used X-21 in the past as matte before. Thin it down super thin with lacquer thinner, apply it in very thin coats, and avoid spraying too much into corners where you'll get frosting. If you've got build-up of frosting you can just rub it off with a brush apparently. It's just talcum powder.
@@Panzermeister36 It’s not coming off. I really don’t want to use s “hot” product with even
The slightest chance of destroying my work. Any other products for a final matt finish? Thanks
Testors Dullcote and VMS matte varnish have worked well for me in the past.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks for getting back to me. Really enjoying your projects.
how long you wait until the wash dry and start clean up ?, also, i also do varnish, but the enamel thinner also clean up the vanish up to primer
10 minutes. What varnish, thinner, and base paints are you using?
@@Panzermeister36 i use model master lacquer satin varnish, for paint, i most mostly Ammo mig or Mr Hobby(both lacquer & aquerous type) depend on the color. For Enamel, i mostly use aritst white spirit /ordorless thinner. After thinking for a while, i really do thing this cause by Model master vanish, i not have this issue when i use some left over Gaia not varnish in my few first project
Yes, I think it might be the varnish being removed and taking the paint with it. But I have never used that varnish myself.
Nice job
Thank you!
Can't you just use a premade satin varnish?
...like XF-86? Most varnishes require thinning.
@@Panzermeister36 : so it's the thinning that's not good? ( Answers a little vague man), and I'm saying that with all due respect.
I just mean, Tamiya XF-86 is a satin varnish product. So I was confused as to why you said I should use a premade product.
@@Panzermeister36 hello, i thought x-21 is not a varnish but a additive to get glossy colours matt and the tamiya semi gloss is x-35. Anyway, great tutorial as always, thank you.
Another double release Friday from Panzermeister and Night Shift. Most excellent!