@@IverKnackerov I thought the point was that he went to England to get to the next level, whereas we're used to Wales producing quality players in house. My bad I guess 😄
@@EggchasersRugby Hey Tim mate , do you know that there is a school rugby powerhouse just close to loftus versfelt , Afrikaanse Hoer Seunskool or simply Affies is their name . You will be impressed if you can visit the school.
I'm probably going to sound like a dork for saying this. But given the form of the Australian teams in Super Rugby, under a coach that actually gives a damn. I believe this is the start of Australia's rise back as a serious contender. With the British and Irish lions coming next year, and the World Cup in Australia in 2027. This team has something to play for. But more importantly, with the Melbourne Rebels leaving Super Rugby, a lot of those players will be condensed into the remaining teams, which I believe is good for Australian rugby overall.
I agree, a vague comparable is England. 3 clubs went bankrupt, but the talent was consolidated and filtered in, making 8 of the 10 teams (barring Gloucester and Newcastle) actually stronger, resulting in a much more competitive Premiership. From what I understand, Union isn't popular bar NSW or Queensland. I imagine the Reds and NSW will capture some Rebels like Tupou, LSL, Daugunu and Kellaway, improving the club sides and hopefully the Wallabies
That’s was I was trying to say about the wallabies. They have really strong players but their coaching direction has been crap. Now they have an experienced coaching leader as in Schmidt. He has an outstanding resume. He lead Ireland to 3 successful Six Nations Championships. Also managing in beating top teams while under his guidance against All Blacks and the Boks. So I woundn’t be surprised if they turn their form around and start with a win in this new era of rugby for them.
I don’t agree with the rebels assessment. Those players won’t want to be on someone else’s bench, so many will go offshore or to league. Up and coming players will do the math and recognise that union contracts have dropped by 20% and drift to league before we even hear of them.
This could end up being the most exciting game of the lot - in terms of being high scoring. Nothing to lose, everything to prove and due to awful management - players get free roam. 🤷♂️ Reckon this could be like watching a game of 7’s rugby over 80 minutes.
Great content, as always mate. It's hard to argue that this isn't the basketcase bowl! It's a very interesting combined team there; I don't know a lot about this backrow of the Welsh, but Bobby V and McReight have been the best two players in Australia for the last two years. Keep an eye on them.
Josh Hathaway was born and brought up in Wales, but like so many young Welsh players was poached by the English scholarship programme. Unlike Feyi Waboso, he actually plumped to play for the country of his birth and upbringing as a pose to his adopted one. Other than that.......some pretty spot on observations about the two unions. We'll just have to see what happens🫣
As an SA fan, I feel for Aus supporters. It was very strange seeing the Aus line up and recognizing hardly any of them, as I''m accustomed to seeing world class legends in your side. Having said this, I'd like to think that you have the talent and a very effective coach in hand. I suspect you'll be back to the top levels sooner than most expect. Personally, I expect you to push through for a clean slate win over Wales in this series. Close at times, but I believe you have enough to win the series, which would be a perfect start to Aus recovering from the Indiana "Jones" jaunt last year.
*Liam Wright* and *Tate McDermott* are co-captains at the reds, *Jake Gordon* is captain of the Waratahs, *Alan Alaalatoa* is the captain of the Brumbies, *Jeremy Williams* is the captain of the Western Force and *Rob Leota* is the Rebels Captain. Schmidt has picked all of them in the match 23, except for Leota who is out injured.
Sad that Australia has gone back kwards over the years as the rivalry and respect used to run between Bokke, ABs and Australia...they are still a Southern Hemisphere team thus as a Bok supporter I am rooting for Australia and have faith that they can once again be a formidable adversary
Ben Thomas played most of his matches in the 12 jersey next to Tinus de Beer, so if even a little bit of de Beer's flyhalf genius rubbed off on Thomas,, he'll be absolutely world class.
I think Tim Ryan is really hard done by. And what a shame that he's being told to bulk up and an indictment on rugby. The guy was scintillating in Super Rugby and should have a place in the squad. But Schmidt is such a step up from Jones.
It makes sense to pick a player on form. That was the exact problem with Australian rugby: it had too many coaches that would reward underperforming players throughout the Super Rugby season with an automatic Wallabies selection. And, what i like: actually picking a player in HIS POSITION. i really dislike selecting players out of position just to get them on the field, no matter the form. Kellaway is a fullback and would be better utilised on the bench as outside backs cover. Tom Wright deserved his spot as he has been fine! Taniela Tupou has me worried as he seems to be injured all of the time. Being big is good, but you need to be able to handle 60mins as a starter...
Joe Schmidt vs Warren Gatland... kiwi vs kiwi, unfortunately Warren has been around for a while, and Wales are where they are. Joe was with Foster for a bad period for the ABs... gonna be interesting
Agree with your comments on the respective unions Both the AR U and WRU have made some horrendous decisions based on hubris more than anything else With both believing they have greater depth than they actually have As for the actual teams i again have to agree with you on what Warren Gatland looks to be doing His using the 6Ns and Summer matches to actually look at all the young Welsh talent he can Then come the Autumn series i can see him then start assembling a real squad Mainly because he will have access to alot more tested players like G.Anscombe ,C,Sheedy N.Smith, and the injured players like J.Morgon ,H.Thomas ect Otherwise what Gatland is currently doing makes no sense what so ever As for J.Schmidt well he is picking on form [the only way to picjk a team ]and also experimenting by only using players based in Australia Of the two teams i would say that Australia seem to be the stronger and better balanced So are looking likely winners But who knows ??In sport anything can happenCome the Rugby Championship though im expecting J.Schmidt to start picking some overseas players like W.Skelton As N.Zealand and S.Africa are very obviously much harder processions
Ben Thomas has been fantastic this season as a playmaking 12. He is not a crash ball! As a 10 it’s risky but I’m quietly hopeful as he seems to have that special something you need for test rugby. Hey I may have egg on my face come Saturday.
Kiwi coaches everywhere 😳🤷🏼♂️🤷 That’s how Ireland progressed so much because of Joe Schmidt and our kiwi players Playing for Ireland Their big heads grew faster than their actual skills on the field 😂😂 running down the NZ after having kiwi coach and players lol unbelievable the disrespect the audacity 😂😂 The got a quick reminder didn’t they lol
Spot on regarding the wales bench,with winnett have to disagree his defence is shocking never seen him make a good tackle ,williams and beatham far better
I reckon every Wales team sheet should include Abi Tierney CEO. List her as...responsible for everything position. Heap the fckng pressure on her to solve the roots issues - her salary must be fat judging from words out her mouth. And now no one can speak thy're mind in the WRU for fear of recrimination. I got faith though, in the squad and let's face it, we never had deep squads, even in the good times. Just ride out these years best we can, keep supporting.
I loved this one again Tim. You hit the nail on the head. A group of us, all rugby nuttters, are going to be in Durban. We would love to catch up for a beer if you have time? We could meet anywhere? I am a 70 year old and have played coached and watched rugby all my life. Started when I was 6 playing barefoot. Terry Gillham
Im thinking the best case scenario may be massive Aus win. Sets them up for the lions and may be enough to end this weird Gatland/WRU experiment. Id quibble on one point. Wales are generating talent, they just aren't development. The skill level odntheir U20 side is high. The conditioning appears woeful. I don't think you can throw kids into international rugby anymore. It's too competitive. Unless you are SA or France and you have 10 awesome players per position.
Really sad for all rugby lovers to see such respected rugby countries so downtrodden. The truth is that all teams should feel the same trepidation about facing these two countries as when they run on to play the top 3. Rugby wants this. Sooner rather than later.
Both Coaches are experimenting with their sides which is good to see as they Wales has 4 years and Australia this year to do that. The players you left out the skelton and Arnold brothers thought they should not had been there last year only Skelton and Eddie forgot one of the most important things about Rugby with his two league coaches and that was the lineout we were slaughtered in our lineouts in the world cup. At least this team has the balance now although still do not think it is the best of the Australian Jumpers playing.
The Aussies can find world class players from no where, I.e Phil Kearns selected from club rugby, Campo who made the wallabies due to mass withdrawal from a Tour to NZ, just don’t be to surprised if some of the unknown guys become regular and great players for the Wallabies For producing athlete’s the Aussies Life style, Climate, and opportunities in a wide range of sports has the edge over many other countries including Wales
Although im an Welsh/Ospreys fan (yes I enjoy the pain), im not familiar with several of these players. However it looks like Gats has gone for size above form, which is concerning as we are never going to be able to produce as many big players like SA or England can. Also Hathaway is from Aberystwyth, so we're just taking him back after the English tried to nab him lol.
Same here - support "Y Gweilch/ Cymru " and 'Duw it's hard' at times - The WRU have been killing the game by'ere since the 1980's - This Tour could become as embarrassing as the '98 tour of South Africa ....... again I will hold my breath 😕
It could be worst for Wales their teams could have gone bust like English clubs, this Welsh team has a higher ceiling than England, judging on the game in Twickenham in the six nation's, enjoy the fun for now, we will soon be back.
You can say all you want about bad selections and bad administrators, but the best young talents are being lured to the more glamorous NRL and AFL competitions. Union is also losing kids at schools to these other codes. The game needs a massive injection of money to keep the professional game alive in Australia as well as a pathway from schoolboys through to senior pros or it's not going to have much of a future. Sevens rugby is also drawing a lot of talent away. I'm sure there are similar problems in other countries too. For instance, England has gone down to 10 premier teams.
I suspect it’s intentional judging by the effort Tim puts into getting all the unusual player names from around the world right. Maybe tongue in cheek at the Aussie accent?
Please get it right, Hathaway was born in Aberystwyth and played for Wales under 20s before he moved to England and signed a school contract requiring him to play for England under 20s. If we are going to talk of stealing players, IFW was born in Cardiff. Have you ever seen Ben Thomas play? He may play 12, but he's a natural 10, he's a talented player not a crash ball specialist.
Regarding Hathaway, Tim pointed out that he went to England to develop up to elite level, suggesting that if a proud rugby nation like Wales aren't doing that development then something is wrong. And re Feyi-Waboso choosing to play for England, many English players have gone the other way, as a Welsh mate has teased me about over the years - so I quite liked how this one went. Hopefully he does well 🤞🏼search google for Welsh players from England, then do it vice versa. The numbers aren't even close. All said and done, good luck against Oz, hope you guys do well!
@@Oakeyblokethere'll be more than one response as my posts aren't loading. Agree on player development pathway it's been neglected by the WRU for over a decade.
In my opinion Australia and Wales are still good and can get better which is a positive thing. Its no pushover for the All Blacks, Ireland or Boks against any of these teams to be honest.
Re Josh Hathaway and others it can't be right that Welsh and other players if they sign for an English academy are forced to sign a contract that says you have to play for England U20's if selected. How can that be even legal? Hathaway is 100% Welsh from Aberystwyth but having already played for Wales U20 he had to play for England if he wanted a contract. That sucks. Not something I could ever do but it's an underhanded way of trying to lure them in to the England set up.
Aussie here. It's obvious to me that you barely know any of the Wallaby players ... But, c'est la vie, and fair play for giving it a shot nonetheless 😉
Great video Tim. Most people in Wales like the selection of Ben Thomas at 10. He's got beautiful distribution and work well with Gtady and Bevan. Hathaway is Welsh born so they've tried to avoid a Feyi-Waboso situation, who was also born in Wales. Worry is the bench. But I think Wales might surprise a few people.
Absolute Rubbish!! This is 100% not the form team for the Wallabies. There are talented players in this mix, not the form players. Besides that, this is not an Australian team! This is a NZ D team with some scattered Aussies and Islanders throughout the mix. Currently, there is no representation on the international stage for Australians. Probably soon won't be for many other nations as well. We will just get a bland Barbarian team for every so-called country to throw money away too. The Wallaby selectors should be ashamed at themselves for stealing the talent of other nations (therefore harming their chances of winning a world cup) and then trying to palm them off to Australians that want to see a side that represents them, their people. International Rugby has/is fast becoming club sides in international colors... Yawn
Nah test rugby needs to be on point first for next year's Lions tour as that will be a massive boost of cash for Rugby Australia who desperately need it
He didn’t say it was an outrage…he said it was indicative of some of the challenges facing welsh rugby. Calm down. Hathaway may have been born in wales but he has 4 times more England U20 caps than welsh ones
@@IverKnackerovwhen moving to England the school contracts that are signed require availability for the England u20s If selected. There is no choice, other than signing the contract.
I stand corrected on the Welsh heritage of Josh Hathaway! Welsh LONG before he was English 😂
But he has played for England U20 4 times versus 1 cap for Wales U20….so the point is still valid 👍
@@IverKnackerovbecause he had to sign a school contract when moving to England requiring availability for the England u20s If selected.
normally been welsh I wouldnt be to keen on been called a basket case, but in the circumstances, ill thank you as its entirely appropriate
@@jukeseyablehahaha
@@IverKnackerov I thought the point was that he went to England to get to the next level, whereas we're used to Wales producing quality players in house.
My bad I guess 😄
I haven’t heard of this channel. But as an Aussie, this was a very measured but accurate assessment, respectfully delivered. Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
@@EggchasersRugby Hey Tim mate , do you know that there is a school rugby powerhouse just close to loftus versfelt , Afrikaanse Hoer Seunskool or simply Affies is their name . You will be impressed if you can visit the school.
I'm probably going to sound like a dork for saying this. But given the form of the Australian teams in Super Rugby, under a coach that actually gives a damn. I believe this is the start of Australia's rise back as a serious contender. With the British and Irish lions coming next year, and the World Cup in Australia in 2027. This team has something to play for.
But more importantly, with the Melbourne Rebels leaving Super Rugby, a lot of those players will be condensed into the remaining teams, which I believe is good for Australian rugby overall.
I agree, a vague comparable is England. 3 clubs went bankrupt, but the talent was consolidated and filtered in, making 8 of the 10 teams (barring Gloucester and Newcastle) actually stronger, resulting in a much more competitive Premiership. From what I understand, Union isn't popular bar NSW or Queensland. I imagine the Reds and NSW will capture some Rebels like Tupou, LSL, Daugunu and Kellaway, improving the club sides and hopefully the Wallabies
not sounding like a dork at all
That’s was I was trying to say about the wallabies. They have really strong players but their coaching direction has been crap. Now they have an experienced coaching leader as in Schmidt. He has an outstanding resume. He lead Ireland to 3 successful Six Nations Championships. Also managing in beating top teams while under his guidance against All Blacks and the Boks. So I woundn’t be surprised if they turn their form around and start with a win in this new era of rugby for them.
I don’t agree with the rebels assessment. Those players won’t want to be on someone else’s bench, so many will go offshore or to league. Up and coming players will do the math and recognise that union contracts have dropped by 20% and drift to league before we even hear of them.
This could end up being the most exciting game of the lot - in terms of being high scoring. Nothing to lose, everything to prove and due to awful management - players get free roam. 🤷♂️
Reckon this could be like watching a game of 7’s rugby over 80 minutes.
I don’t think so this is Joe Schmidt and Gatland wer talking about
YEAH NAH 😳😂👀
Great content, as always mate. It's hard to argue that this isn't the basketcase bowl! It's a very interesting combined team there; I don't know a lot about this backrow of the Welsh, but Bobby V and McReight have been the best two players in Australia for the last two years. Keep an eye on them.
Australia will get better with Schmidt.
Josh Hathaway was born and brought up in Wales, but like so many young Welsh players was poached by the English scholarship programme. Unlike Feyi Waboso, he actually plumped to play for the country of his birth and upbringing as a pose to his adopted one.
Other than that.......some pretty spot on observations about the two unions.
We'll just have to see what happens🫣
It's pretty sad here in aus. As a kiwi you ask people at work if they want to go watch the bledisloe, people just laugh 😂
As an SA fan, I feel for Aus supporters. It was very strange seeing the Aus line up and recognizing hardly any of them, as I''m accustomed to seeing world class legends in your side. Having said this, I'd like to think that you have the talent and a very effective coach in hand. I suspect you'll be back to the top levels sooner than most expect. Personally, I expect you to push through for a clean slate win over Wales in this series. Close at times, but I believe you have enough to win the series, which would be a perfect start to Aus recovering from the Indiana "Jones" jaunt last year.
*Liam Wright* and *Tate McDermott* are co-captains at the reds, *Jake Gordon* is captain of the Waratahs, *Alan Alaalatoa* is the captain of the Brumbies, *Jeremy Williams* is the captain of the Western Force and *Rob Leota* is the Rebels Captain.
Schmidt has picked all of them in the match 23, except for Leota who is out injured.
Sad tosee boyh teams in trouble I've watched the super rugby which has been great to watch
Sad that Australia has gone back kwards over the years as the rivalry and respect used to run between Bokke, ABs and Australia...they are still a Southern Hemisphere team thus as a Bok supporter I am rooting for Australia and have faith that they can once again be a formidable adversary
You're absolutely perfectly right about Austria, no question, since they lost to Turkey the other night...
😂 @@southefritelien
God we aussies need a win. I’ll take one on or off the field as it’s all falling apart.
This match up seems appropriate, need to find their fight again... Suited correctly!
Never get why the Australian team isn’t just dominated by the Brumbies and why there’s still such an even mix between the 4 teams.
Great stuff, Hope to see a great match since these 2 teams in the past have been world class
Ben Thomas played most of his matches in the 12 jersey next to Tinus de Beer, so if even a little bit of de Beer's flyhalf genius rubbed off on Thomas,, he'll be absolutely world class.
I think Tim Ryan is really hard done by. And what a shame that he's being told to bulk up and an indictment on rugby. The guy was scintillating in Super Rugby and should have a place in the squad. But Schmidt is such a step up from Jones.
It makes sense to pick a player on form. That was the exact problem with Australian rugby: it had too many coaches that would reward underperforming players throughout the Super Rugby season with an automatic Wallabies selection. And, what i like: actually picking a player in HIS POSITION. i really dislike selecting players out of position just to get them on the field, no matter the form. Kellaway is a fullback and would be better utilised on the bench as outside backs cover. Tom Wright deserved his spot as he has been fine!
Taniela Tupou has me worried as he seems to be injured all of the time. Being big is good, but you need to be able to handle 60mins as a starter...
The Basketcase-Bowl. What a correct statement. It'll be interesting to see what Joe Shcmit can do with Oz.
Joe Schmidt vs Warren Gatland... kiwi vs kiwi, unfortunately Warren has been around for a while, and Wales are where they are. Joe was with Foster for a bad period for the ABs... gonna be interesting
I’m totally confuse by the Wales selection
Agree with your comments on the respective unions Both the AR U and WRU have made some horrendous decisions based on hubris more than anything else With both believing they have greater depth than they actually have As for the actual teams i again have to agree with you on what Warren Gatland looks to be doing His using the 6Ns and Summer matches to actually look at all the young Welsh talent he can Then come the Autumn series i can see him then start assembling a real squad Mainly because he will have access to alot more tested players like G.Anscombe ,C,Sheedy N.Smith, and the injured players like J.Morgon ,H.Thomas ect Otherwise what Gatland is currently doing makes no sense what so ever As for J.Schmidt well he is picking on form [the only way to picjk a team ]and also experimenting by only using players based in Australia Of the two teams i would say that Australia seem to be the stronger and better balanced So are looking likely winners But who knows ??In sport anything can happenCome the Rugby Championship though im expecting J.Schmidt to start picking some overseas players like W.Skelton As N.Zealand and S.Africa are very obviously much harder processions
We moved on, looking ahead. New coach... Wales will get a smack...
As a scarlets fan want wales to give it there all that is what is important for me play for the shirt
Ben Thomas has been fantastic this season as a playmaking 12. He is not a crash ball! As a 10 it’s risky but I’m quietly hopeful as he seems to have that special something you need for test rugby. Hey I may have egg on my face come Saturday.
Kiwi coaches everywhere 😳🤷🏼♂️🤷
That’s how Ireland progressed so much because of Joe Schmidt and our kiwi players Playing for Ireland
Their big heads grew faster than their actual skills on the field 😂😂 running down the NZ after having kiwi coach and players lol unbelievable the disrespect the audacity 😂😂
The got a quick reminder didn’t they lol
Australia had many world class coaches successful with previous teams and after the wallabies so umm.. yeah 😳😳😂😂 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️Lol
Spot on regarding the wales bench,with winnett have to disagree his defence is shocking never seen him make a good tackle ,williams and beatham far better
I reckon every Wales team sheet should include Abi Tierney CEO.
List her as...responsible for everything position.
Heap the fckng pressure on her to solve the roots issues - her salary must be fat judging from words out her mouth. And now no one can speak thy're mind in the WRU for fear of recrimination.
I got faith though, in the squad and let's face it, we never had deep squads, even in the good times.
Just ride out these years best we can, keep supporting.
I loved this one again Tim. You hit the nail on the head. A group of us, all rugby nuttters, are going to be in Durban. We would love to catch up for a beer if you have time? We could meet anywhere? I am a 70 year old and have played coached and watched rugby all my life. Started when I was 6 playing barefoot. Terry Gillham
Tìm, where are you now? I know it's Zululand, but which venue?
Looks like a marula tree behind you.
Im thinking the best case scenario may be massive Aus win. Sets them up for the lions and may be enough to end this weird Gatland/WRU experiment.
Id quibble on one point. Wales are generating talent, they just aren't development. The skill level odntheir U20 side is high. The conditioning appears woeful.
I don't think you can throw kids into international rugby anymore. It's too competitive. Unless you are SA or France and you have 10 awesome players per position.
The bottom line is New Zealand/ South Africa/ Australia all heavy odds on favourites 🤪.
Hathaway was Wales u20s and then the following year switched to England u20s
Really sad for all rugby lovers to see such respected rugby countries so downtrodden. The truth is that all teams should feel the same trepidation about facing these two countries as when they run on to play the top 3. Rugby wants this. Sooner rather than later.
Both Coaches are experimenting with their sides which is good to see as they Wales has 4 years and Australia this year to do that. The players you left out the skelton and Arnold brothers thought they should not had been there last year only Skelton and Eddie forgot one of the most important things about Rugby with his two league coaches and that was the lineout we were slaughtered in our lineouts in the world cup. At least this team has the balance now although still do not think it is the best of the Australian Jumpers playing.
Only Bevan and Williams can kick so as Tim mentioned with 3 x12's it will be pretty one dimensional
The Aussies can find world class players from no where, I.e Phil Kearns selected from club rugby, Campo who made the wallabies due to mass withdrawal from a Tour to NZ, just don’t be to surprised if some of the unknown guys become regular and great players for the Wallabies
For producing athlete’s the Aussies Life style, Climate, and opportunities in a wide range of sports has the edge over many other countries including Wales
Although im an Welsh/Ospreys fan (yes I enjoy the pain), im not familiar with several of these players. However it looks like Gats has gone for size above form, which is concerning as we are never going to be able to produce as many big players like SA or England can.
Also Hathaway is from Aberystwyth, so we're just taking him back after the English tried to nab him lol.
Same here - support "Y Gweilch/ Cymru " and 'Duw it's hard' at times - The WRU have been killing the game by'ere since the 1980's - This Tour could become as embarrassing as the '98 tour of South Africa ....... again I will hold my breath 😕
Wainwright over Valentini is a joke surely
It could be worst for Wales their teams could have gone bust like English clubs, this Welsh team has a higher ceiling than England, judging on the game in Twickenham in the six nation's, enjoy the fun for now, we will soon be back.
Wales “won” the Spoon ….thats floor level, not ceiling
Ben Thomas has been THE form Welsh player in the URC this season
This is his big opportunity
Bevan is the future not Hardy
You can say all you want about bad selections and bad administrators, but the best young talents are being lured to the more glamorous NRL and AFL competitions. Union is also losing kids at schools to these other codes. The game needs a massive injection of money to keep the professional game alive in Australia as well as a pathway from schoolboys through to senior pros or it's not going to have much of a future. Sevens rugby is also drawing a lot of talent away. I'm sure there are similar problems in other countries too. For instance, England has gone down to 10 premier teams.
Was Australia deliberately spelt wrong on the Wales team sheet? AWSTRALIA? Could it be in the welsh spelling or Gatland mind games or no spell check?
Welsh spelling
I suspect it’s intentional judging by the effort Tim puts into getting all the unusual player names from around the world right. Maybe tongue in cheek at the Aussie accent?
Welsh, mate. Rhymes with "House Valuer". 🙂
No scotland preview?
Wales we have a chance
So true about the Unions
You do wonder if Gatland is trying to lose his job - is Winnett dropped or rested? Thought he was fabulous in the Six Nations
Please get it right, Hathaway was born in Aberystwyth and played for Wales under 20s before he moved to England and signed a school contract requiring him to play for England under 20s.
If we are going to talk of stealing players, IFW was born in Cardiff.
Have you ever seen Ben Thomas play? He may play 12, but he's a natural 10, he's a talented player not a crash ball specialist.
I was about to say this he is Welsh
Why would he want to play for a joke of a club setup?
@flyboy970 I don't blame him staying at Gloucester. It makes no sense to play in Wales when the WRU may still cut a side in the next 30 months
Regarding Hathaway, Tim pointed out that he went to England to develop up to elite level, suggesting that if a proud rugby nation like Wales aren't doing that development then something is wrong.
And re Feyi-Waboso choosing to play for England, many English players have gone the other way, as a Welsh mate has teased me about over the years - so I quite liked how this one went. Hopefully he does well 🤞🏼search google for Welsh players from England, then do it vice versa. The numbers aren't even close.
All said and done, good luck against Oz, hope you guys do well!
@@Oakeyblokethere'll be more than one response as my posts aren't loading.
Agree on player development pathway it's been neglected by the WRU for over a decade.
I hope the Schmidt and Aussies can win this one tbh I feel for our southern cousins.
wales doesnt stand a chance
Josh is welsh but so is the English wing born in wales played most of his rugby in wales talk about lack of knowledge
In my opinion Australia and Wales are still good and can get better which is a positive thing. Its no pushover for the All Blacks, Ireland or Boks against any of these teams to be honest.
Have you managed to catch any of the U20 world cup? Baby boks looking like there is some great talent coming through
Taniela Tupou looks to me like he’s never been truly fit. He’s gassed after about 10 mins & needs replacing. He’s wasting his talent.
Re Josh Hathaway and others it can't be right that Welsh and other players if they sign for an English academy are forced to sign a contract that says you have to play for England U20's if selected. How can that be even legal? Hathaway is 100% Welsh from Aberystwyth but having already played for Wales U20 he had to play for England if he wanted a contract. That sucks. Not something I could ever do but it's an underhanded way of trying to lure them in to the England set up.
I like Thomas @ 10, rough diamond.
Wales vs Australia is like watching two dwarves punching on
Basket Case Bowl 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not sure but are most of the Aus team Brumbies! Because they held their own in super rugby didn't they
Umm, do your homework bro 😉
It’s cold 😂😂😂
Say it as it is
Aussie here. It's obvious to me that you barely know any of the Wallaby players ... But, c'est la vie, and fair play for giving it a shot nonetheless 😉
Should we know them until they do something worth doing like making it to the quarters of a WC?C'est la vie as you say.
@@myshepspud1 well, du pont plays in a losing RWC QF and people claim him to be the best player in the world, so ... 🤔
Problem for both of theses unions is they can't find the right players to fill the national team because they don't exist
Great video Tim. Most people in Wales like the selection of Ben Thomas at 10. He's got beautiful distribution and work well with Gtady and Bevan. Hathaway is Welsh born so they've tried to avoid a Feyi-Waboso situation, who was also born in Wales. Worry is the bench. But I think Wales might surprise a few people.
I agree. Absolute mess.
Who would have thought that closing coal mines would kill a national rugby team?
The lack of experience at 9, 10 and 12 for us [Wales] is quite a risk especially when you also throw in a debutante on the wing.
Absolute Rubbish!! This is 100% not the form team for the Wallabies.
There are talented players in this mix, not the form players.
Besides that, this is not an Australian team!
This is a NZ D team with some scattered Aussies and Islanders throughout the mix.
Currently, there is no representation on the international stage for Australians. Probably soon won't be for many other nations as well. We will just get a bland Barbarian team for every so-called country to throw money away too.
The Wallaby selectors should be ashamed at themselves for stealing the talent of other nations (therefore harming their chances of winning a world cup) and then trying to palm them off to Australians that want to see a side that represents them, their people.
International Rugby has/is fast becoming club sides in international colors... Yawn
Time for Wales to say goodbye to Gatland. He’s a loser, terrible win stats. Need to look to the future with someone with fresh thinking….
They should have cancelled game...sunk the money, time ,and effort, into supporting the Grass Roots game in Australia , especially Indigenous Players
Nah test rugby needs to be on point first for next year's Lions tour as that will be a massive boost of cash for Rugby Australia who desperately need it
You have to get off this "englishman playing for Wales is an outrage" trip. You come across as some reform supporting English supremacist.
@@mixodorians12 and Hathaway is Welsh, born in Aberystwyth, so not English!
He didn’t say it was an outrage…he said it was indicative of some of the challenges facing welsh rugby. Calm down. Hathaway may have been born in wales but he has 4 times more England U20 caps than welsh ones
@@IverKnackerovwhen moving to England the school contracts that are signed require availability for the England u20s If selected. There is no choice, other than signing the contract.