thank you for sharing David I found it very Interesting. As a Veteran and a gun collector my self (I have an original 1865-1875 Sharps Rifle in 40-90Bn ) too see some of the fantastic firearms you own and shoot is very humbling. I hope you get all you want for this pistol and then some.
Hi Aaron ; Thanks for the reply. I also have a original Sharps. It's a 1865 carbine that was a factory metallic cartridge conversion to 50-70 in 1867. I've carried deer hunting a few times but so far haven't harvested anything with it. I've had better luck with my Springfield 1873 rifle in 45-70 thou. Ain't nothing better than shooting a 100 plus year old gun. David
I had the pleasure in speaking to David for a few hours this evening, and found out many details were left out of the Lost episode on the History Channel. If anyone out there has the money to purchase such a pistol, it would be worth your while to contact him.
This is very well put together and very good research I would like to know if there has been any additional information that you have found out about this gun
I got a letter from Smith & Wesson and they said they are considering making the Schofield again. I wrote them a letter they should make Singel Action revolvers to compete againts Ruger and Colt in Cowboy Action Shooting. They wrote back it could happen in further.
That is just so cool. I'm surprised the original auction place where the gun was acquired didn't take the grips off and see the blood.(I always take grips off, etc., any used revolver or pistol I buy just to check it out, ya know? Curiosity of my new acquisition.) Also, I'm wondering why there are so many signatures on the inside of the grips? Even without the historical prominence that is one nice revolver for the age...better than any ol' Uberti!!! Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your find. Has this gun ever been featured in American Rifleman, by chance? Jeff T., Pittsburgh, PA USA
This is unbelievable to me, you have Jesse James gun? That is so cool. I love learning about all types of history but the American West era is so intriguing to me.
Yeah and he “shoots the hell out of it” because why not add his stupid ass to its history. “Shot by Jesse James, but mostly shot by some fat cowboy action shooting self-important fool that takes his play time too seriously.” Honestly it’s morons like this that ruin much of history. I’ll just grab some of my antiques and add to their history by f’ing them up. Why not? I mean I own them now, no matter how they got to me. Brilliant shit
I watched you on that episode truly amazing .when I saw this vidio I remembered the show .it's amazing your a Lucky guy and glad u shoot some .I wouldn't shoot that one but glad u do the others
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
As a blood relative of the James family, congratulations! I watched the show on TV but just stumbled upon this video. Thanks! Really historical. Now Please find Custer's Falling block rifle and if anybody can that's you. Happy shooting! Again, thanks, David.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I just saw your reply while cleaning my computer. No jealousy, it's the biggest mystery out there in the gun collecting world, my friend! Let's be honest Hugh, wouldn't you like to find that rifle? It's gotta be out there. You may be the one to come across it, if you did, I would be the first to congratulate you...Happy Hunting!
@@robertscheinost179 My reply was directed at some idiot named Jo Wilkish, who has since deleted his comment, which if I remember was quite derogatory towards you.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Thanks for the info, Hugh. I remember that comment. His ancestor was supposedly killed by my ancestor, like we choose our ancestors! He told me to go to Hell and I responded by telling him to F himself. Thanks for the clarification!
As if, everyone else get’s to see this video before we do! It’s our history! I will now forever remember this when I watch the history channel! I now have a whole different outlook on these programs! And will now know possible most of the rest of the world has seen the program before I was watching it! Thanks for the final analysis, and I think you might possibly be correct with your final analysis! Thanks for the video!
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again. Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
I am pretty sure I have the last pistol Jessie carried. My great grandfather bought it from Frank James before he passed. It was an 1860 Colt and still shoots great.
Thankyou, Mr. Dave Baumann, for showing Jesse James's, Smith and Wesson scofield, on You Tube. I also want to thankyou, for the interesting narrative, and your opinion what really occurred, when James was shot by Bob Ford, I believe it were in a rented house outside of St.Joseph, Mo. Anyway I wish you well !!! , and may you get final confirmation on the blood DNA on the scofield revolver of Jesse's. Kevin Phoenix
Mate if you contact Forgotten gun's and get into there ear about that gun they just might be able to help you out . They have modern equipment buddy . Great story you got there and lots of beautiful and really cool gun's. I reckon it's JJ's gun mate . Great stuff
Sir you are a rare breed, I'm extremely happy this gun landed in your hands. People are always going to be jealous and say mean things. You did a great job in this video and I am a fan. Have a blessed day brother.
I’m not jealous or drunk but why the hell would you shoot the hell out of that gun? You’re not adding to its history, you are taking away from it since you are not a legend like Jesse James. We don’t buy famous antique swords and practice cuts with them. Using these old guns is destructive, as you damn well know, and if you are shooting the hell out of it, that’s a damn shame, sir. I hope I misunderstood something because I have no problem shooting old guns but not ones with provenance. I could see shooting a few times but to treat is as you would any tool is ignorant and callous.
@@jimjohn9041 What an asshole! You have a problem with shooting a gun with provenance but you don't OWN this gun so why are YOU giving the OWNER a hard way to go? Maybe you're not drunk or jealous so what is your beef with someone does legally with his possessions? Head case, perhaps??? Mr. Baumann does not need your advice on what he should or should not do.
@@jimjohn9041 it doesn't belong to you He can melt it and make a horse shoe with it if he wanted to, but no, he is sharing it with us. You sir are a Tool lol
Your collection is pricless alone in my opinion. Jessies gun is awesome and I would put it on display for the world to see. I think it could make millions of dollars just to get to see it in real life. Thank you for the video her and yes I watched the tv show when it came out and TV is bad about half truthes.
Fascinating!!! I’ve probably watch all of Jesse James movies. He’s the luckiest man on earth. I wouldn’t sell that gun for nothing. One thing I never knew was the caliber.
David have you had any updates on the gun as any other info or DNA Testing on the grips. A really great story as I grew up in Kansas city MO. have been to just about every Jesse James museum. from Missouri to Kansas.. please let us know either in another video or a response. would love to hear... thanks for a great story which I find to be very true based on evidence you have produce...
appreciating is one thing. shooting them in competition is another . These guns have served their time and belong in a museum or collection . I just can't get behind the knowing destruction of rare antiques . I mean he is shooting the Jesse James pistol and with every shot he is actively making the gun worth less and putting wear and tear on historic items for no good reason . I wish shooting these old guns was not doing that but it is and what in the heck is he doing shooting the gun Jesse James signed in the first place?
jesusoftheapes as far as I’m concerned ther his he bought them and he is a cowboy shooter I would shoot them to ther his I’m sure the black powder he loads into these is not that string to wreck them like I say he paid for them might as well use them as look at them
David, a remarkable journey and a well told story of your journey. You hold a key piece of the history of the American West. Enjoyed this engaging video. Maureen
Thanks; I found it after you posted this. The History Channel finally released it to the public for free viewing. They were charging $2.99 per episode unless you had cable tv and knew your password.
I watched the video on History Channel and at the beginning you mentioned you had thoroughly inspected the piece to learn if it was safe to fire, and it was not mentioned if you did or did not ever fire the piece. 1 ) Did you ever fire this Schofield ? 2 ) Does this Schofield chamber a .45 caliber cartridge ?
I've shot the pistol around 500 times. But only 100 times since the signature on the grips proved to be Jesse's I've let several of my friends shoot it. I reload my own shells for it in 45 caliber Schofield with smokeless powder.
You are welcome. The purpose of this video is to try to make contact with the person that owns the original signed Jesse James picture or a different DNA expert that believes he can get DNA out of these 135 year old blood stains.
@@davidbaumann8683 No question in my mind this is James' gun. Nobody that works for a living has time to engrave their name 5 times on the inside grip of their gun. A lazy person hanging around between crimes has plenty of time to do this.
Just saw the show that was on 'Found' Why Hopefully, near future DNA advancements will be able to verify that this was indeed Jesse's blood and this was definitely the gun he had one hit when he was killed like you suspected. Thanks for posting such a fascinating story and best of luck. Any updates, please post them !
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
Man, it was in Western OK? My father's side of the family is from there, specifically Colony and Corn Oklahoma. Damn. Schofields are cool for sure, especially when owned by J.James and worn when he died. However, those Merwin and Hulberts are the BEST of the era in my opinion.
I'm jessie James's 4th cousin. At least I wouldve been. We have his birth certificate and several pictures and documents of him. My great grandfather was his great grandson. We had one of his revolvers. But a fire destroyed our house and everything with it. All we have now is a few documents and pictures of him as a child and one of the original wanted sheets with his picture. I'm proud to see u have one of his guns. If only my great grandfather told us the location of his treasure. I'd be happy to give it away.
I would like to see your proof of these claims. If youre his great grand sons great grandson: a. That would not make you his fourth cousin but a direct decendant. B. That is too many generations that dont exist
Yeah right my man Jesse ain’t have to girl with the name Chesser, I myself rode with billy after his fled to New Mexico from Arizona and the regulators after awhile
If your great grandfather was his great grandson rhat would make him your great great great great grandfather or more. That doss not add up with when jesse james was born. Sorry. Your family lied to you or you have it wrong.
New sub thank you for sharing what a dream pistol not for how much you can get for it just to know the man who the world is talking about.I have never ever herd of found.I will be looking thanks.I hope when you sell it you give some to his grandson WOW I had no idea she died penniless my Lord and had to sell his dog WOW how awful the world isn't kind at all I am sure you will straighten out history so when his grandson tells his story he has you to pass the real kindness of how we have evolved as people.
I contacted the auction house and since I wasn't the original purchaser and the sale happened before they went to storing every thing on a computer. They couldn't help me or remember the sale so they were no help. Copies was exactly what I was after. This is the purpose of this video. To find the person who owned this prior to the year 2000. Or the person that owns the picture I showed in the video or any one else that is a real expert , not an alcohol induced expert, like I've had to put up with . Thank you for your response. David
There's some interesting and compelling things about this pistol...based on what I see in this video. I would love to see the questioned settled definitively. I hope it is proven to be Jesse's, but whatever the truth may be, let it be revealed. While, if it were his and present at his death, it's possible that his wife grabbed it with bloody hands, that is just a theory at this point...and that's using a theory to support an unproven conclusion. I would focus (first priority) on getting the blood tested by someone equipped to do so on older blood, THEN we can figure out how his blood got there...if it's his. As for the video, overall, I enjoyed it, although I am one of those who can only afford reproductions of the guns of the day. The sport of Cowboy Action shooting isn't unlike my old hobby of reenacting mounted Confederate Cavalry. In reenacting, there exists subsets and cliques, rife with snobbery and disdain for those they deem less authentically equipped and less historically correct.....though those snobs ride to these events in gasoline automobiles, benefit from and/or carry on their persons modern medical marvels that are certainly inauthentic. The point is, we don't live in the 19th Century. We aren't 19th Century people. Your 120 year old guns don't look like they did 120 years ago when So & So used them in the day. Now they look like antiques. The ones they used looked more like today's new reproductions in their day, so from a point of appearances, using well worn originals looks inauthentic. There's nothing wrong with preferring originals, but there's also nothing wrong with reproductions. There are a LOT of good folks who love the history and the guns who can only afford to get their little piece of it with reproductions. Those are my people...God bless them. Best of luck to you, sir, in the quest for authentication of that pistol.
plowboysghost his blood got there by his wife.. She ran and grabbed his pistol and Ford was already out the door before she could shoot him...Then went to Jesse and got the blood on her hands and then on the pistol grips
@@briggie27 That's stupid because they said they can use DNA from a dinosaur flesh to try and clone another. They just don't want to do the DNA test on the grips because they are lazy and don't want to search up old cowboys
My Dad had a Merwin and Hubert 3rd model Frontier in 44-40 back In the 60's. I like it because of how it was manufactured it is a very cool revolver but all that machining is probably what put um out of business. Could the blood have come from one of the wounded gang members after the Northfield Minnesota raid.
As to the Merwin & Hulberts. Since I own 3 and shoot all of them. They probably went out of business for poor sales. You have to understand that all cartridges back then were loaded with black powder. Black powder is a very dirty burning powder. These Merwins $Hulberts were built like a fine tuned watch. Very little tolerance when clean. I shoot my own reloads using much cleaner smokeless powder and in as many as 30 shots fired these guns start having problems rotating the cylinder because they are dirty and need to be cleaned. I can not imagine how fast using black powder will gum them up and case the not to function correctly. We haven't even gotten into blowing dirt that the frontier had plenty of. And as to the statement about the blood coming from the North Field raid I'm going to say no. This raid happened in 1876 and the Schofield was invented in 1875 with almost all of them going to the US Army. I don't think Jesse or his gang could have gotten their hands on any of them until 1878 when the Army sold them off as surplus.
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
Happy to see all of Jesse James family in the comments. What number is still available? I didn’t see 12th cousin. I’ll take that. I’m Jesse James 12th cousin!
Fantastic story! I am 65 years old, I am Brazilian and I live in the south of Brazil, in the city of Porto Alegre. I am passionate about the history of the Wild West. Its heroes, sheriffs and outlaws and also habits, the achievement so difficult and sacrificed. I research a lot about the lives of Jesse James, Billy The Kid, Wyatt Earp, Will Bill Hickock, Calamity Jane, Butch Cassidy, Doc Holiday, Pat Garret and others who built the beautiful history of the American West. Cinema does not always faithfully portray real events, using fiction and stabbing history. In the film The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (where Brad Pitt plays Jesse and Casey Affleck the Ford), Jesse presents Bob with an S&W Schofield and, ironically, was the weapon used by Bob Ford to murder him. Did this really happen or was it invented by the film's director? When Jesse takes off his belt with the revolvers before climbing on the chair to clean the dust off the painting, it gives the impression that he wants to be killed. (my opinion before the scene). In the film, Jesse faced a very strong emotional crisis, constantly living in remorse for the life he led. Did he know that Ford would kill him if he had a chance and then made it easy? What do you, who have a lot of knowledge about the life of Jesse James, think of my theory? I have two S&W Schofield CO2, 4.5mm, from ASG, (Steel Gray and Aging Black, the latter with wooden grips that I made myself). I also have an 1875 Remington. On my channel Airguns & Airsofts comment on issues pertaining to the Wild West and its protagonists. I really liked your video. You have the story in your hands! Its explanation is detailed and precise. Even with my English which is not very good, I managed to understand the content. Congratulations! You won a channel subscriber. I will follow the materials, which are like going back in time. They say that "hugs" are not sent to Americans, that this type of treatment is not used. Well, here in Brazil, suits as a habit, send hugs as a form of friendship, so ... Big hug!
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct..... I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
fantastic video and wow what a gun ... back in those days I have herd the 1877 and 1878 Colts (double actions) call pistols rather than revolvers ... as I understand it ... there is a J. James pistol in the Oshkosh WI museum ... just saying ... take care ... Michael
I stand corrected ... the pistol at the Oshkosh , WI museum ... is said to have belonged to Cole Younger and made it's way to Oshkosh from Northfield , MN ...
Hi Michael ; I' have several Colt Lightings (38 cal.)and Thunders (41 cal.) or also called 1877 Colt Double Actions and several Colt 1878 double actions. The 1877's have a bad tendence to break the v spring inside the frame. The 1878 is more reliable and comes in a larger caliber but both are slow to reload. It takes both hands to reload them. The Schofield could be reloaded on hore back in a full gallup with 1 hand. The Colts you mentioned , if you were on a horse, you'd have to drop the reins and hope you could stear your horse with your knees.
GOOD eye, Yes this Sheriff's model has a latger than normal trigger guard. The serial number on the trigger guard does not match the frame. I do not know who changed it. It was like this when I acquired the gun 30 years ago.
@@davidbaumann8683 .Even though R.L. Wilson wa fraud, his books have great pictures and in one of them is one or two Colt SAAs with extra large triggerguards not related to a Bisley's. I wonder if the one on your gun is one of those. I read somewhere that John Wayne's gun had such a t'guard but I never seen it on film.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
The house in st joe is the house he was killed at the house he was raised in is in Kearney Missouri along with grave next to his mother Zelda and cousin Archie his brother frank is buried in independence Missouri inna tiny cemetery
On my mothers side her grandfather which is my great grandfather his mother was directly related to him. Btw frank and him both were part of the golden ccircle. We have the patch and pendent from his belongings.
Do you know the story about Cole Younger's pistol. If it is the same pistol, he got shot during a bank robbery with Jesse and he dropped the gun in the street. After the shooting died down, the local druggist ran out there and got it.
David, I am researching Jesse James for my Year 12 Research Project. So far I am struggling to find sources and get interviews as it is part of the requirements. I can’t seem to find any of Jesse’s descendants and I was hoping I could get in contact with you and discuss anything you know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, Aaron
If you had took it To pawn stars they definitely would have to tried to low ball you, but other than that's real nice pistol. As they say in pawn stars" you got the holy grail" congrats on your find sir. Next thing you know you might buy another pistol that probably belong to billy the kid, but not sure if he carried smith and wesson.
Hi; Would you happen to have his contact info. Or know him well enough to pass on my phone number to him. This is the reason I posted this video. I 'm trying to gather information from people like you or the actual owners of Jesse James weapons . I'd like to compare notes and stories. Thanks for you reply. David 405 816-1340
@@davidbaumann8683 Mr Ford has passed away. I got involved with researching a Colt SAA ivory gripped nickel plated gun owned by a Mr. William Mitchell. Mr. Mitchell was a close friend of Mr. Ford and business associate. In Mr. Mitchell's collection he owned Jesse James' “Muscle Shoals“ gun. Also a SSA Colt nickel plated ivory gripped. This gun was authenticated by R. L. Wilson and Greg Martin as the gun that was taken by the James brothers when they robbed a government paymaster down in Alabama. During my research I found another Muscle Shoals gun on display in a museum in Kentucky? Mr. Wilson published the photo of the gun display that Jesse James Jr had loaned to the Worlds Fair of his dad's guns in one of his books with info on Mr. Mitchell's gun. Each gun in the display had a card that identified the gun. Info was illegible on image. I got the original image from Library of Congress. I now could see clear information on each weapon, boots, holster rig, and bridle. Mr Mitchell's gun was tag as belonging to Cole Younger taken from him in Medlia Minn after the Northfield raid. Anyway I received from Mr. Mitchell copies of communications and history of what happened to the James guns once they were returned to the widow James. The guns were loaned to a Dr. Lowery in Missouri that was the James family doctor by Jesse Jr. in lieu of payment for some medical service to Mr. James. Dr. Lowery sold them to Senator Hawes of Missouri to resolve a debt he owed for unpaid rent. The James family tried to recover the guns from Senator Hawes with no response. Stella James Jesse Jr's daughter approached Henry Ford for assistance to recover the guns.Henry Ford was interested in purchasing the guns for his museum collection only. The guns passed on to a Senator Boykin and Mr. Mitchell got his Colt from Boykin's son. Finally the James Family Foundation claim they have the original guns.
Thank you for keeping gun history alive.
Your welcome
Just watched the History Channel show Found that featured your gun. I was so excited for you. I love history.
thank you for sharing David I found it very Interesting. As a Veteran and a gun collector my self (I have an original 1865-1875 Sharps Rifle in 40-90Bn ) too see some of the fantastic firearms you own and shoot is very humbling. I hope you get all you want for this pistol and then some.
Hi Aaron ; Thanks for the reply. I also have a original Sharps. It's a 1865 carbine that was a factory metallic cartridge conversion to 50-70 in 1867. I've carried deer hunting a few times but so far haven't harvested anything with it. I've had better luck with my Springfield 1873 rifle in 45-70 thou. Ain't nothing better than shooting a 100 plus year old gun. David
AWESOME!!! I am a cowboy action shooter but shoot reproductions. You sir are an inspiration.
Thanks for this video. I saw the episode when it first aired.
I had the pleasure in speaking to David for a few hours this evening, and found out many details were left out of the Lost episode on the History Channel. If anyone out there has the money to purchase such a pistol, it would be worth your while to contact him.
Wow -- what an amazing collection! Thanks for sharing with us, David.
This is very well put together and very good research I would like to know if there has been any additional information that you have found out about this gun
Hi man. It's Ted from Texas here. It's a beautiful gun my friend. Enjoy it.
You have no idea how much I enjoyed this.
This is so awesome, congratulations. RIP Jesse James
I got a letter from Smith & Wesson and they said they are considering making the Schofield again. I wrote them a letter they should make Singel Action revolvers to compete againts Ruger and Colt in Cowboy Action Shooting. They wrote back it could happen in further.
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He was an evil man who killed many innocent people
This was an awesome video to watch. Congratulations Sir, on your impressive firearms and especially Jesse James's pistol..
Magnificent .one of my favorites..reminds me of a western series back in 72."alias smith N jones".
Damm
Beautiful pistol. I also watched the history Channel about this pistol.
Hello from Florida love your collection
That is just so cool. I'm surprised the original auction place where the gun was acquired didn't take the grips off and see the blood.(I always take grips off, etc., any used revolver or pistol I buy just to check it out, ya know? Curiosity of my new acquisition.) Also, I'm wondering why there are so many signatures on the inside of the grips? Even without the historical prominence that is one nice revolver for the age...better than any ol' Uberti!!! Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your find. Has this gun ever been featured in American Rifleman, by chance? Jeff T., Pittsburgh, PA USA
As interesting as this story is .....
Awesome find . What a piece of history.
This is unbelievable to me, you have Jesse James gun? That is so cool. I love learning about all types of history but the American West era is so intriguing to me.
Yeah and he “shoots the hell out of it” because why not add his stupid ass to its history. “Shot by Jesse James, but mostly shot by some fat cowboy action shooting self-important fool that takes his play time too seriously.” Honestly it’s morons like this that ruin much of history. I’ll just grab some of my antiques and add to their history by f’ing them up. Why not? I mean I own them now, no matter how they got to me. Brilliant shit
He shoots it because it's worthless. It's not Jesse's, it has no provenance, it's a bad story with no evidence.
Man this made my night, your guns are beautiful, they will make fine heirlooms someday!
I watched you on that episode truly amazing .when I saw this vidio I remembered the show .it's amazing your a Lucky guy and glad u shoot some .I wouldn't shoot that one but glad u do the others
Good luck David! Great video.
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
Watched the episode when it first aired. Watched it a few times since. Good Stuff. Best to ya! 🇺🇸
As a blood relative of the James family, congratulations! I watched the show on TV but just stumbled upon this video. Thanks! Really historical. Now Please find Custer's Falling block rifle and if anybody can that's you. Happy shooting! Again, thanks, David.
@@jowilkish7895 Sounds like you're a bit jealous there, bud.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I just saw your reply while cleaning my computer. No jealousy, it's the biggest mystery out there in the gun collecting world, my friend! Let's be honest Hugh, wouldn't you like to find that rifle? It's gotta be out there. You may be the one to come across it, if you did, I would be the first to congratulate you...Happy Hunting!
@@robertscheinost179 My reply was directed at some idiot named Jo Wilkish, who has since deleted his comment, which if I remember was quite derogatory towards you.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Thanks for the info, Hugh. I remember that comment. His ancestor was supposedly killed by my ancestor, like we choose our ancestors! He told me to go to Hell and I responded by telling him to F himself. Thanks for the clarification!
@@thatsmrharley2u2 But if you do ever run into Custer's Remington rolling block rifle, I would be the first to say congrats! Thanks again, Hugh.
Sir, you have a beautiful collection!
As if, everyone else get’s to see this video before we do! It’s our history! I will now forever remember this when I watch the history channel! I now have a whole different outlook on these programs! And will now know possible most of the rest of the world has seen the program before I was watching it! Thanks for the final analysis, and I think you might possibly be correct with your final analysis! Thanks for the video!
What a awesome collection....congrats...super cool
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again.
Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
I am pretty sure I have the last pistol Jessie carried. My great grandfather bought it from Frank James before he passed. It was an 1860 Colt and still shoots great.
Highly unlikely.
@@jdd1979 Jealousy becomes you.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 some people don't understand these guns had to end up somewhere with someone
@@danielblackburn1241 And thankfully it was me.
Incredible collection and awesome that you shoot them also. Thank you for sharing them with us. I only have reproductions.
Glad to see Doug Dimmadome still kickin'
Wow that’s a very interesting piece of history
I remember seeing that episode, if it's authentic then you have a priceless piece of history. BTW, you can watch this episode on HULU.
Wonderful collection
Thankyou, Mr. Dave Baumann, for showing Jesse James's, Smith and Wesson scofield, on You Tube. I also want to thankyou, for the interesting narrative, and your opinion what really occurred, when James was shot by Bob Ford, I believe it were in a rented house outside of St.Joseph, Mo. Anyway I wish you well !!! , and may you get final confirmation on the blood DNA on the scofield revolver of Jesse's. Kevin Phoenix
Mate if you contact Forgotten gun's and get into there ear about that gun they just might be able to help you out . They have modern equipment buddy . Great story you got there and lots of beautiful and really cool gun's. I reckon it's JJ's gun mate . Great stuff
Sir you are a rare breed, I'm extremely happy this gun landed in your hands. People are always going to be jealous and say mean things. You did a great job in this video and I am a fan. Have a blessed day brother.
Thank you for your comment. You are correct about what jealous or drunk people have replied to me on this piece of history.
@@davidbaumann8683 That's a damn shame.
I’m not jealous or drunk but why the hell would you shoot the hell out of that gun? You’re not adding to its history, you are taking away from it since you are not a legend like Jesse James. We don’t buy famous antique swords and practice cuts with them. Using these old guns is destructive, as you damn well know, and if you are shooting the hell out of it, that’s a damn shame, sir. I hope I misunderstood something because I have no problem shooting old guns but not ones with provenance. I could see shooting a few times but to treat is as you would any tool is ignorant and callous.
@@jimjohn9041 What an asshole! You have a problem with shooting a gun with provenance but you don't OWN this gun so why are YOU giving the OWNER a hard way to go? Maybe you're not drunk or jealous so what is your beef with someone does legally with his possessions? Head case, perhaps??? Mr. Baumann does not need your advice on what he should or should not do.
@@jimjohn9041 it doesn't belong to you
He can melt it and make a horse shoe with it if he wanted to, but no, he is sharing it with us. You sir are a Tool lol
Man shoots guns more expensive than my whole collection that I sadly lost in a Boating accident.
When Jesse James was a very young man, Jesse James robbed trains. When Jesse James was on the job, he took everything but the dang ol' train!
Your collection is pricless alone in my opinion. Jessies gun is awesome and I would put it on display for the world to see. I think it could make millions of dollars just to get to see it in real life. Thank you for the video her and yes I watched the tv show when it came out and TV is bad about half truthes.
Fascinating. Mr. Baumann sure has an expensive hobby.
Wonderful story and nice guns
Jesse James was killed unarmed. The man who killed him was labeled a coward for doing so.
Congrats on getting the answers on Found!
Fascinating!!! I’ve probably watch all of Jesse James movies. He’s the luckiest man on earth. I wouldn’t sell that gun for nothing. One thing I never knew was the caliber.
David have you had any updates on the gun as any other info or DNA Testing on the grips.
A really great story as I grew up in Kansas city MO. have been to just about every Jesse James museum. from Missouri to Kansas..
please let us know either in another video or a response. would love to hear... thanks for a great story which I find to be very true based on evidence you have produce...
Wish more ppl like you existed that appreciat these firearms I got some of my grand dads I need to look into
appreciating is one thing. shooting them in competition is another . These guns have served their time and belong in a museum or collection . I just can't get behind the knowing destruction of rare antiques . I mean he is shooting the Jesse James pistol and with every shot he is actively making the gun worth less and putting wear and tear on historic items for no good reason . I wish shooting these old guns was not doing that but it is and what in the heck is he doing shooting the gun Jesse James signed in the first place?
jesusoftheapes as far as I’m concerned ther his he bought them and he is a cowboy shooter I would shoot them to ther his I’m sure the black powder he loads into these is not that string to wreck them like I say he paid for them might as well use them as look at them
David, a remarkable journey and a well told story of your journey. You hold a key piece of the history of the American West. Enjoyed this engaging video. Maureen
Great story?he repeats himself; goes round and round, he'd bore the arse hole out of a tin wood pecker
To whom it may concern. You can watch this episode of found or any other episode of found on Hulu.
Thanks; I found it after you posted this. The History Channel finally released it to the public for free viewing. They were charging $2.99 per episode unless you had cable tv and knew your password.
Great information, everything that you came up with sounds real.
I watched the video on History Channel and at the beginning you mentioned you had thoroughly inspected the piece to learn if it was safe to fire, and it was not mentioned if you did or did not ever fire the piece.
1 ) Did you ever fire this Schofield ?
2 ) Does this Schofield chamber a .45 caliber
cartridge ?
I've shot the pistol around 500 times. But only 100 times since the signature on the grips proved to be Jesse's I've let several of my friends shoot it. I reload my own shells for it in 45 caliber Schofield with smokeless powder.
I've shot it hard and fast just like it was intended to be shot in 1875. I've run over 500 rounds threw it.
did you ever manage to get the documentation?
great story and find, did you ever get the paperwork from the guy you purchased the gun from after he died?
He explained that in the beginning
I love the gun David I collect cowboy action guns myself
Thank you for sharing this sir.
You are welcome. The purpose of this video is to try to make contact with the person that owns the original signed Jesse James picture or a different DNA expert that believes he can get DNA out of these 135 year old blood stains.
@@davidbaumann8683 Did you ever find Frank James letter? The original owner died?
@@davidbaumann8683 No question in my mind this is James' gun. Nobody that works for a living has time to engrave their name 5 times on the inside grip of their gun. A lazy person hanging around between crimes has plenty of time to do this.
Is the weapon "blued", or tarnished nickel?
Thank You
Nickel plated with lots of nickel missing
@@davidbaumann8683 Thank You; What is the length of the barrel?
@@davidbaumann8683 what size barrel?
It's old flaking off nickel plating winch is very common with over 100 year old nickle.
Just saw the show that was on 'Found' Why
Hopefully, near future DNA advancements will be able to verify that this was indeed Jesse's blood and this was definitely the gun he had one hit when he was killed like you suspected.
Thanks for posting such a fascinating story and best of luck. Any updates, please post them !
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
Man, it was in Western OK? My father's side of the family is from there, specifically Colony and Corn Oklahoma. Damn. Schofields are cool for sure, especially when owned by J.James and worn when he died. However, those Merwin and Hulberts are the BEST of the era in my opinion.
I'm jessie James's 4th cousin. At least I wouldve been. We have his birth certificate and several pictures and documents of him. My great grandfather was his great grandson. We had one of his revolvers. But a fire destroyed our house and everything with it. All we have now is a few documents and pictures of him as a child and one of the original wanted sheets with his picture. I'm proud to see u have one of his guns. If only my great grandfather told us the location of his treasure. I'd be happy to give it away.
I would like to see your proof of these claims. If youre his great grand sons great grandson: a. That would not make you his fourth cousin but a direct decendant. B. That is too many generations that dont exist
Me to my great grandfathers uncle rose with him
Yeah right my man Jesse ain’t have to girl with the name Chesser, I myself rode with billy after his fled to New Mexico from Arizona and the regulators after awhile
If your great grandfather was his great grandson rhat would make him your great great great great grandfather or more. That doss not add up with when jesse james was born. Sorry. Your family lied to you or you have it wrong.
Jacob Chesser wow that’s amazing you post a picture of his wanted poster
What a superb story , thank you. Any news on the provenance yet?
Beautiful wish I could have it! 💙🏁
New sub thank you for sharing what a dream pistol not for how much you can get for it just to know the man who the world is talking about.I have never ever herd of found.I will be looking thanks.I hope when you sell it you give some to his grandson WOW I had no idea she died penniless my Lord and had to sell his dog WOW how awful the world isn't kind at all I am sure you will straighten out history so when his grandson tells his story he has you to pass the real kindness of how we have evolved as people.
Have you tried to retrace the steps of the documentation from the auction house back as far as you can? Maybe someone made copies along the way.
I contacted the auction house and since I wasn't the original purchaser and the sale happened before they went to storing every thing on a computer. They couldn't help me or remember the sale so they were no help. Copies was exactly what I was after. This is the purpose of this video. To find the person who owned this prior to the year 2000. Or the person that owns the picture I showed in the video or any one else that is a real expert , not an alcohol induced expert, like I've had to put up with . Thank you for your response. David
There's some interesting and compelling things about this pistol...based on what I see in this video. I would love to see the questioned settled definitively. I hope it is proven to be Jesse's, but whatever the truth may be, let it be revealed.
While, if it were his and present at his death, it's possible that his wife grabbed it with bloody hands, that is just a theory at this point...and that's using a theory to support an unproven conclusion.
I would focus (first priority) on getting the blood tested by someone equipped to do so on older blood, THEN we can figure out how his blood got there...if it's his.
As for the video, overall, I enjoyed it, although I am one of those who can only afford reproductions of the guns of the day. The sport of Cowboy Action shooting isn't unlike my old hobby of reenacting mounted Confederate Cavalry.
In reenacting, there exists subsets and cliques, rife with snobbery and disdain for those they deem less authentically equipped and less historically correct.....though those snobs ride to these events in gasoline automobiles, benefit from and/or carry on their persons modern medical marvels that are certainly inauthentic.
The point is, we don't live in the 19th Century. We aren't 19th Century people. Your 120 year old guns don't look like they did 120 years ago when So & So used them in the day. Now they look like antiques.
The ones they used looked more like today's new reproductions in their day, so from a point of appearances, using well worn originals looks inauthentic.
There's nothing wrong with preferring originals, but there's also nothing wrong with reproductions. There are a LOT of good folks who love the history and the guns who can only afford to get their little piece of it with reproductions. Those are my people...God bless them.
Best of luck to you, sir, in the quest for authentication of that pistol.
plowboysghost his blood got there by his wife.. She ran and grabbed his pistol and Ford was already out the door before she could shoot him...Then went to Jesse and got the blood on her hands and then on the pistol grips
I have some S&W's 1st and 3rd models...
How much did you spend getting all that ? Testings,profesional certifications and reserch?
On Colts it about 300 bucks per gun. On the S7W's it was about 45 at the time. I haven't recherched one in 15 years so the price might have went up
This is Awesome
Brilliant effort.
That's awesome. Have the blood DNA tested.
He tried on the History Channel show Found. Sample was too old to have DNA in it
@@briggie27 That's stupid because they said they can use DNA from a dinosaur flesh to try and clone another. They just don't want to do the DNA test on the grips because they are lazy and don't want to search up old cowboys
it was a god video tums upp jesse james it s a cool gun smittan weson
I wouldn’t let lose of that pistol!
My Dad had a Merwin and Hubert 3rd model Frontier in 44-40 back In the 60's. I like it because of how it was manufactured it is a very cool revolver but all that machining is probably what put um out of business. Could the blood have come from one of the wounded gang members after the Northfield Minnesota raid.
As to the Merwin & Hulberts. Since I own 3 and shoot all of them. They probably went out of business for poor sales. You have to understand that all cartridges back then were loaded with black powder. Black powder is a very dirty burning powder. These Merwins $Hulberts were built like a fine tuned watch. Very little tolerance when clean. I shoot my own reloads using much cleaner smokeless powder and in as many as 30 shots fired these guns start having problems rotating the cylinder because they are dirty and need to be cleaned. I can not imagine how fast using black powder will gum them up and case the not to function correctly. We haven't even gotten into blowing dirt that the frontier had plenty of. And as to the statement about the blood coming from the North Field raid I'm going to say no. This raid happened in 1876 and the Schofield was invented in 1875 with almost all of them going to the US Army. I don't think Jesse or his gang could have gotten their hands on any of them until 1878 when the Army sold them off as surplus.
Should be in a museum
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
Happy to see all of Jesse James family in the comments. What number is still available? I didn’t see 12th cousin. I’ll take that. I’m Jesse James 12th cousin!
😅😅ikr everyone was kin to jj lol
My great great grandmother was a sister to Jesse James.
Fantastic story! I am 65 years old, I am Brazilian and I live in the south of Brazil, in the city of Porto Alegre. I am passionate about the history of the Wild West. Its heroes, sheriffs and outlaws and also habits, the achievement so difficult and sacrificed. I research a lot about the lives of Jesse James, Billy The Kid, Wyatt Earp, Will Bill Hickock, Calamity Jane, Butch Cassidy, Doc Holiday, Pat Garret and others who built the beautiful history of the American West. Cinema does not always faithfully portray real events, using fiction and stabbing history. In the film The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (where Brad Pitt plays Jesse and Casey Affleck the Ford), Jesse presents Bob with an S&W Schofield and, ironically, was the weapon used by Bob Ford to murder him. Did this really happen or was it invented by the film's director? When Jesse takes off his belt with the revolvers before climbing on the chair to clean the dust off the painting, it gives the impression that he wants to be killed. (my opinion before the scene). In the film, Jesse faced a very strong emotional crisis, constantly living in remorse for the life he led. Did he know that Ford would kill him if he had a chance and then made it easy? What do you, who have a lot of knowledge about the life of Jesse James, think of my theory? I have two S&W Schofield CO2, 4.5mm, from ASG, (Steel Gray and Aging Black, the latter with wooden grips that I made myself). I also have an 1875 Remington. On my channel Airguns & Airsofts comment on issues pertaining to the Wild West and its protagonists. I really liked your video. You have the story in your hands! Its explanation is detailed and precise. Even with my English which is not very good, I managed to understand the content. Congratulations! You won a channel subscriber. I will follow the materials, which are like going back in time. They say that "hugs" are not sent to Americans, that this type of treatment is not used. Well, here in Brazil, suits as a habit, send hugs as a form of friendship, so ... Big hug!
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct.....
I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
I love Jesse James I also like his gun when are you going to put it in a museum?
I've been seriously thinking about this thought a lot here lately. There is a big national museum not too far from my house.
Good video
I like this guy
All the best mate Hope you find what you need Good on ya mate
Wow. Very Cool. Good video too. 👍👍👍
This guy really needs to get a hold of Rick at pawn Stars so he can get a good deal off those guns hahaha
Best I can do is $5.
fantastic video and wow what a gun ... back in those days I have herd the 1877 and 1878 Colts (double actions) call pistols rather than revolvers ... as I understand it ... there is a J. James pistol in the Oshkosh WI museum ... just saying ... take care ... Michael
I stand corrected ... the pistol at the Oshkosh , WI museum ... is said to have belonged to Cole Younger and made it's way to Oshkosh from Northfield , MN ...
Hi Michael ; I' have several Colt Lightings (38 cal.)and Thunders (41 cal.) or also called 1877 Colt Double Actions and several Colt 1878 double actions. The 1877's have a bad tendence to break the v spring inside the frame. The 1878 is more reliable and comes in a larger caliber but both are slow to reload. It takes both hands to reload them. The Schofield could be reloaded on hore back in a full gallup with 1 hand. The Colts you mentioned , if you were on a horse, you'd have to drop the reins and hope you could stear your horse with your knees.
You are are unique individual sir and I have enjoyed this video! Bmf
What’s the story on the large trigger guard on the Sheriff’s Model? Excellent shootin’ collection!
GOOD eye, Yes this Sheriff's model has a latger than normal trigger guard. The serial number on the trigger guard does not match the frame. I do not know who changed it. It was like this when I acquired the gun 30 years ago.
@@davidbaumann8683 .Even though R.L. Wilson wa fraud, his books have great pictures and in one of them is one or two Colt SAAs with extra large triggerguards not related to a Bisley's. I wonder if the one on your gun is one of those. I read somewhere that John Wayne's gun had such a t'guard but I never seen it on film.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
I visited the James house in St Joe Mo 2 years ago was cool to see that!
The house in st joe is the house he was killed at the house he was raised in is in Kearney Missouri along with grave next to his mother Zelda and cousin Archie his brother frank is buried in independence Missouri inna tiny cemetery
On my mothers side her grandfather which is my great grandfather his mother was directly related to him. Btw frank and him both were part of the golden ccircle. We have the patch and pendent from his belongings.
Knights of the Golden Circle, that's cool.
Nice find
The pistol that belonged to Cole Younger is in the Museum in Berryville, Arkansas... a Smith and Wesson Scofield.
Do you know the story about Cole Younger's pistol. If it is the same pistol, he got shot during a bank robbery with Jesse and he dropped the gun in the street. After the shooting died down, the local druggist ran out there and got it.
Did you ever get the paperwork from that auction house referring to the gun ???
David, I am researching Jesse James for my Year 12 Research Project. So far I am struggling to find sources and get interviews as it is part of the requirements. I can’t seem to find any of Jesse’s descendants and I was hoping I could get in contact with you and discuss anything you know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, Aaron
Call me. I don't do text or emails. David Baumann 405 816-1340 around noon central time. I'll pass on what I have found out over the years.
If you had took it To pawn stars they definitely would have to tried to low ball you, but other than that's real nice pistol. As they say in pawn stars" you got the holy grail" congrats on your find sir. Next thing you know you might buy another pistol that probably belong to billy the kid, but not sure if he carried smith and wesson.
Shoot what ya brung... Shoot the real deal.
I do the same and am an avid collector, your Sir have a great piece of history.
I have never liked guns but you have a very big piece of history ! I hope that one day u can get the DNA too !
Very cool !! Congratulations !
Great story bud...Jesse is on cool dude
Jesse James was a real southern hero
Impressive !!
What is the barrel length please?
This pistol has the stock barrel length of 7 inches. This is the only length is was produced in and it hasn't been cut off.
@@davidbaumann8683 Thank You David and Good Luck to You!
Follow up. William Clay Ford owns two James guns. One is Jesse's S&W and Frank James Remington 1875. William Ford owner of Ford Motor Company.
Hi; Would you happen to have his contact info. Or know him well enough to pass on my phone number to him. This is the reason I posted this video. I 'm trying to gather information from people like you or the actual owners of Jesse James weapons . I'd like to compare notes and stories. Thanks for you reply. David 405 816-1340
@@davidbaumann8683 Mr Ford has passed away. I got involved with researching a Colt SAA ivory gripped nickel plated gun owned by a Mr. William Mitchell. Mr. Mitchell was a close friend of Mr. Ford and business associate. In Mr. Mitchell's collection he owned Jesse James' “Muscle Shoals“ gun. Also a SSA Colt nickel plated ivory gripped. This gun was authenticated by R. L. Wilson and Greg Martin as the gun that was taken by the James brothers when they robbed a government paymaster down in Alabama. During my research I found another Muscle Shoals gun on display in a museum in Kentucky? Mr. Wilson published the photo of the gun display that Jesse James Jr had loaned to the Worlds Fair of his dad's guns in one of his books with info on Mr. Mitchell's gun. Each gun in the display had a card that identified the gun. Info was illegible on image. I got the original image from Library of Congress. I now could see clear information on each weapon, boots, holster rig, and bridle. Mr Mitchell's gun was tag as belonging to Cole Younger taken from him in Medlia Minn after the Northfield raid. Anyway I received from Mr. Mitchell copies of communications and history of what happened to the James guns once they were returned to the widow James. The guns were loaned to a Dr. Lowery in Missouri that was the James family doctor by Jesse Jr. in lieu of payment for some medical service to Mr. James. Dr. Lowery sold them to Senator Hawes of Missouri to resolve a debt he owed for unpaid rent. The James family tried to recover the guns from Senator Hawes with no response. Stella James Jesse Jr's daughter approached Henry Ford for assistance to recover the guns.Henry Ford was interested in purchasing the guns for his museum collection only. The guns passed on to a Senator Boykin and Mr. Mitchell got his Colt from Boykin's son. Finally the James Family Foundation claim they have the original guns.
@@davidbaumann8683 Here is Jesse James's S&W Schofield and holster WCF possession.
I believe it is too ! So how much did you get for it ?