5 REASONS WHY SXS'S RULE OVER JEEPS, PRE-RUNNERS AND SAND CARS | CHUPACABRA OFFROAD
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At the end of the day, as long as you are out having fun, that is all that matters. Who's strongly considering ditching the Jeep, PreRunner, or sandcar?
Ditching my prerunners for a Speed UTV (El Jefe)
I just bought a KRX and I love it more than my built jeep. I’m selling the jeep soon and putting the money into accessories for the KRX. Good review!
Nope. Never trade down to a sxs. 🤣
What about a Polaris Ranger XP 1000 Crew Trail Boss (6 seater with ridiculous bed payload capacity) with 14” of ground clearance? I’ve got a big family. Will be doing everything but very moderate scale. Want to go into tighter spaces, and just a tad faster than a Jeep. What’re your thoughts? That or Jeep?
@@ZaneBezesky If you live in Arizona, Utah, and/ or hunt, the ranger is hard to beat. If you live in California, the street legal aspect of the Jeep is a big deal. Honestly I'd love to have both, but the the new Ranger is a cool unit for a big family, and with 32" tires on it they are badass!
Agreed! SxS’s are the most capable off-road vehicle straight from the dealer floor. Stock or modified- you will have fun. Don’t need a ton of hp or big tires if you don’t want to go that route. We’ve been riding for 5 years and can’t imagine what life would be like without our SxS. Tread Lightly and learn about off-road etiquette out on the trail!
Sxs changed my family’s life by getting out and exploring what’s out there.
Each machine has a place. I've had the use of or owned about every common off road genera of vehicle. I've traversed trails on a trials bike that a side by side wouldn't touch. On the other hand a jeep would be much better for long trips on reasonable roads. Today, after seven decades, I own a side by side, a sport ute, and a Dodge Cummins.
Good video.
Ran Calico’s Odessa canyon in a bone stock X3 DS Max a couple weeks ago and cruised by 3 Jeep groups winching out. Not a single broken part, winch or tow was used. I wasn’t a SXS guy until I bought one!
How do you like the power of the base X3 max? I have one on order snd worried I am gonna wish I got the R or RR.
I don’t regret it at all, it’ll run Oldsmobile on stock big horns at 45mph. I have yet to be in a situation where more power would’ve saved me. The only thing I’d recommend right off the bat is 30”-32” tires. The 28’s really hinder the ground clearance in the rocks.
@@donhouston325 did you do a clutch kit when you went up to 32’s?
@@eljefe2564, I went to 30’s with stock clutching but haven’t had it out yet with them. I’ll adjust as needed after testing. From what I hear most guys have good luck with 30’s on a stock clutch.
Totally agree, I can go many more places, much faster and far more comfortable ride in the RZR then other off road vehicles!
I remember when rzrs first hit the scene and I thought to myself what a waste of money for a go kart... fast forward a few years I had an audi s6 quattro and a twin turbo ls1 drag truck and polaris dropper a huge factory rebate on the 2017 lineup... bought a 4 seat rzr xp1k for 16k out the door and never looked back. Now I own a tow rig, trailer and a polaris general xp4 converted into a 6 seat to take everyone out in the trails and I've not once missed the audi or drag truck or any of the maintenance costs or other headaches that go along with them. I've said for years that running trails in a sxs is the most fun you can have with your clothes on 😆
I went from CJ to TJ to RZR4 to X3 max. Downside of the SXS is trailering and A/C. Wife and 2 little kids wouldnt be down with desert runs in the summer where a 4 door jeep could drive to the trailhead on the highway, and ride during the day when its 100+ out.
That was so helpful especially as a beginner , the sxs can let me feel good in any type of trip till i find what inlike and even after
Thank you man 🙏🏻
Man I have an H2 and I have a 2021 RRS Max and a Kawasaki Tyrex2 and love my SxS’’s best of all and can get so many places with the small platform of the SxS💪❤️Not to mention it cost a whole lot more money to fix my H2 if I screw up on the trail or just a mechanical failure happens🤔
All good riding environments you mentioned but imo the most fun is the dunes. You are right about a tuned big turbo SxS in the sand, changes the experience completely.
Had a Jeep, quad and pre-runner and sxs / utv beats them all hands down. The versatility is way nice.
Any banshee will smoke your ass.
Depends what kind of riding you want to do if you want to rock crawl and camp probably go with a jeep and if you want to go fast into the whoops well side by side is the best
I feel the same, this is why i start to build my own buggy style sxs or utv offroad vehicle.
My budged it's very low.
Wish you all the best.
Thank you for this video, I have been on the fence for a while.
Something I look at more and more is parts availability hands down will be easier to find parts for a sxs no matter where you are at
Great point
Preach brother!!!
Thanks for the Valuable information good video awesome footage
I agree 100%. Jeeps are expensive and slow, sand cars limit where you can go unless it's a dual sport, and I own a prerunner, you gotta spend a ton of cash to get the same experience as you do in a SxS.
I would still like to own a big V8 prerunner and do a few Baja trips, which was always my dream, but now I'm thinking the Speed will be a better tool for the job, 4wd, lighter weight and easier/ cheaper to maintain with plenty of power.
I'm sorry but for the dunes I feel so much more safe in a sand rail, they are so much wider and have so much more travel in comparison, compared to like a can am x3 or like a polaris rzr turbo, they lack suspension travel and the roll cages tubes are as thin as paper, all my uncles that have owned utvs/sxs have allways had problems with them so much so they are selling them and getting sand rails, I'm only 15 but god for me a sxs just feels like a death trap, and when you modify it so much it basically just turns into a glorified sand car, and that's why when I'm older I'm either sticking to dirt bikes or getting sand rail.
I agree.. I've never broken a belt, catch on fire and flip.. oh wait, I have sandcar. Lol. Sandcars way safer and handles 100% better. I only play in the dunes, if I wanna go desert riding, I'll take my Toyota 4x4 Tacoma.
@@thelifeoffastony1157 agreed definitely buying one when I get older.
All fine and dandy when you’re in dreamland but a decent sand car is $100k. A side by side is $30k
@@digit975 if you think a decent one is 100k then you know nothing about sand cars lol
@@dirtyhabitz9947 I’m talking new vs new. A decent transaxle is $20k alone.
Good info
Cheaper yes and narrower that is the only places a SxS wins. All the Fan Bois prove my point. I have a long travel V-8 rail/pre-runner. Sees lots of high mtn trails in Colorado. So don’t say it’s not practical. I’ve done all the trails around ouray/silverton. It comes down to skills both driving and mechanical. I go with a crew of SxS’s and at the end of the day I can go faster and the ride is way smoother.
SXS fastest growing outdoor sport there is, started out in 2004 Rhino, now have a 2011 commander with 16000 some miles, do all my own maintenance, only on my third belt and still have the original for a spare
There's no doubt in my mind at all. I have been 4 wheeling for about 38 years. I've had all kinds of vehicles. My side by side is the best thing I've ever been in the woods with. There awesome. It's a game changer. Side by side rocks. Thanks for the video.
Stay safe and God bless.
Jeeps are the best bang for your buck. I've rented several sxs and driven several sxs owned by friends and honestly there fun for about an hour and after that your exhausted. The seats are uncomfortable. The engine is pretty loud you can't talk to your passenger..with the engine being behind you and underneath you your constantly sweating and hot .
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Hey I live in AZ too I’m getting my first sxs either 2021 turbo s 4, or rzr pro xp 4 my kids are older and as tall as me 6’ I never hear anyone address the rear seats in these machines. I can barely fit in the back of the turbo s but there’s decent room in the pro XP’s back seat. can you customize the back seat in the turbo s to push it back there seems to be about 1 1/2”- 2” inches back there. Any thoughts
Love your videos 👍🇺🇸
That's definitely a tougher call, I think the Pro Xp is overpriced, but if I had tall kids, the Turbo S is really tight in the rear. Has the whole family sat in a X3 Max? As much as I hate the length, that might be best for your family.
@@ChupacabraOffroad to be blunt I can’t do a 4 seat limo can am🤨 but the sport pro xp 4 is $25,600 and the turbo s velocity is $25,200 @ ridenow I guess I’ll decide while I’m there. Thx for the reply hope to see ya on the AZ trails someday 🏜
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Thank you for sharing
I think you are missing the point of why most people dislike or make fun of the UTV crowd. Its not because the vehicles are not as practical or if not more practical than a prerunner/sand car/rock crawler, its more so the demographic of people that are brought to the deserts now because of them. Its absolutely awesome UTV's are bringing in more people to the scene and showing people why offroading is so addicting, BUT and a BIG but is the issue lies within any old joe shmoe with ZERO experience being able to go and finance a car from wally's world and rip around with no regard, safety or etiquette to whats going on or the people around them. There is a serious issue with this going on now with a million of these cars ripping around the desert anywhere you go. There needs to be a safety course of some sort put in place that people have to participate in and pass to be able to own one of these things. Someone could say this should apply to a prerunner/sand car/rock crawler as well but typically when you are dropping 70+ thousand dollars on one of these higher caliber vehicles with your own non financed money, you're pretty invested and been around the sport long enough to know the ins and outs of being in the dirt. I agree with your pinned comment, as long as you're having fun thats all that matters. As long as people are doing it SAFELY.
I agree with your points of a safety class being required (as these machines are so capable) but just because someone spends $70K+ doesn't mean they know what they are doing, and this turns into 'Well I've been going to Glamis for...." argument.
My point with this video is that if you can only afford one of these vehicles, or are considering getting into offroad, a SxS is the vehicle. Any of these vehicles require responsibility to drive within your means, drive sober, and have common courtesy. That's a whole other conversation, maybe I can try and do a video to those points, new driver drama is a problem, I've never seen more trash in the desert after Covid turned everyone into "outdoorsy" people.
Its so true sxs are the way to go. i mean we sold our jeep for a 2020 x3 max turbo rr and its way more fun for my family of 4 and all for of us can drive it cuz they are so safe and easy to drive.
For as much as sxs's cost, they should be street legal. I'd rather have an 90's jeep since you can hit the hwy without having to unload and load.
Agree 100%
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I have a Pro XP ultimate, should I invest in aftermarket rods and arms? If so who is good?
Running bigger tires I assume? I've bent a few stock radius rods over the years thanks to 32" tires. If you have the budget, going to a 72" kit would be awesome, even though you are looking $8-10K by the time you get new shocks/ current shocks revalved and resprung. I wouldn't waste money on a A arm kit unless you go wider, and I'm also assuming you are in the Southwest where the width will really help your ride quality and stability. MY race car has a Lone Star 72" kit which has been good, not including the cheap heims and hardware it came with. Whatever you get, ensure it has USA made FK heims and Grade 8 hardware.
Completely agree, the utv’s are the ultimate tool for off-roading, obtainable for just about any person and provide levels of performance just a decade ago were reserved for people with much higher skill levels to build a prerunner/sand car/buggy or the resources to purchase one from a builder. I can’t even get my girl to go off-roading with me anymore if it’s in our Jeep or samurai, once you stop getting beat up you don’t really want to start again.
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Hell ya dude. No windshield, cold ass air coming in , stuffy ass helmets. Can’t talk to friends unless through headset. Can’t go through drive through and sip drinks 🥤 or grub on food , can’t grab things cuz 5 pointy glue you to the chair. Also banned from non OHV trails which is everywhere. Constant smell and sound from mufflers. Moths flying in when they see them lights at night. Just spend $50k+ on a stock truck and make it into a ultra4 4x4 prerunner.
Sounds like you need a golf cart and a 9 iron bro... this is Offroad! haha
@@ChupacabraOffroad Well…. Ah shit ,you might be right 🫤
And let's not forget. With the winch you can just yank these things up over anything. Lol. It's crazy. I've never got stuck to were I need someone else to help me out. I can't say that same thing about my old trucks and jeeps...
10 years deep on a sxs jeeps are super slow super heavy and rouph not even fun unless your a teenager or first timer. my deal sealer was any toy you can put a girl on the back and be good like a 4 wheeler or a gixxer. But hanging out with the guys you put your homie on the back of your 4 wheeler or gixxer and its super gay. Where the sxs you can make it street legal hang out with the guys go hunting anything in the mountains and it doesn’t feel like you been violated. Sxs for life try to run it at least 3 times a week nothing compares nada.
Hahaha that will be my April fools prank- new "2 up videos" with other guys on a quad, Hahaha
@@ChupacabraOffroad I have had young 4 wheel riders tell me sxs are for grampas then I tell them that and they have nothing to say. Little do they know I have had a quadzilla since 91 but I sure aint taking my homie on it backseat reserved for the ladys. Lol
Man I hate to say it because I am a sandcar guy but if it wasn’t for the razors and all sxs I don’t think Glamis would be as big as it is today. The only problem I really have is the choppy dunes and crappy routes most sxs owners take in the dunes it’s like follow the dunes and go with the flow hahahah.
The sxs is the only jack of all trades out there. There’s nothing else that you can buy and go ride anywhere and everything. They are definitely not the master of any one terrain, but with a few of the right upgrades they come very close.
Almost everyone in my riding group are SxS now and they're great. They are fast, comfortable, and safe with some modifications like cages and new seat belts. That said, as much as I like em I think they've become the "mustang" of OHV. People aren't starting off anymore on atvs or dirt bikes and going straight to a SxS and the amount of crashes I see it shows these people don't have dune knowledge. Secondly, they've ruined the dunes for atvs and dirt bikes. Custom shocks and stabilizers can't fix the roughness of the dunes because of all the SxS. I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud; I really like them, but I can't help but notice riding isn't what it used to be. A lot more stops because of throttle thumb or forearm pump. I know they're here to stay and I'm probably in the minority about them, I just wish there were small OHV weekends only sometimes. Just my 2 cents.
You make a lot of great points, and I agree as I’m a dirt biker at heart…. The whole landscape has changed in many ways
@Chupacabra Offroad I think SxS kinda saved the sand dune game because after 2008 it died off pretty good so I respect the SxS. And with atv and dirt bikes starting at 10k you might as well make a slightly bigger monthly and get a SxS. Just not sure how much longer I'll ride a atv till get a SxS, hopefully the belt system will be deleted soon because that's the biggest draw back of owning one right now.
I think SxS are a perfect tool for the widest variety of terrain. But especially these days with the high mark up, it’s hard to bite the billet over a 4wd prerunner
And bite the bullet again and again with prep costs.
When is that Speed utv coming?
Not exactly sure. the 4 seater is being tested in Arizona here soon, so they are getting close, but IMO they are 2-3 months out, at least.
Awesome can't wait to watch your video on that beast
Of everything offroad on 4 wheels, the SxS is hands down the best. Look at KOH results. I own a Jeep and SxS, the SxS destroys the jeep in both rock crawling and go fast desert. So fast getting from point to point in the desert over the jeep, always have to wait for my jeep buddies.
Can't compare Apples to oranges.
Do some traveling...don’t just be stuck in the southwest.
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Well done Nick. You nailed it and I wholeheartedly agree. I can afford a UTV unlike other off-road toys. Although the lifestyle led to an open Aluma trailer, lots more tools and toolbox, compressor, pressure washer, toy hauler and truck to tow! 🤣🤣 Here in St George we ride year round and just pull out of the garage and go. We call the RZR our retirement Harley/convertible sports car and I will run to get lunch for us or take a nice evening drive around town. The versatility and fun per dollar ratio is the best by far. 👍👍 I often ride street, fast desert, deep sand and rocks in one ride.
I’m no mechanic but with really basic maintenance we put 12,000 mostly trouble free miles on our 2015 XP4 which still had a lot of fun miles left in it when we traded for our 2019. We wore out clutches, belts and tires, but never have broken a belt. You have to pay to play, but the cost with a UTV is far smaller than other off road toys.
I also think that with the delivery of the Speed UTV, the eventual release of the Polaris Pro R and whatever Can Am has up their sleeve the margin of superior versatility will only grow. It will be less appealing to have a Sand car or pre-runner.
Love the content-keep it rolling! 👍👍😎
I agree totally. Also the x3 is definitely the way to go. Great video
Any thought to doing KOH?
Idk, the machines get beat to hell. I’d rather race Baja, but maybe one day
Anything rules over a jeep. They don't rule over sand cars.
Bring your sand car to Baja, Primm, sand hollow or Moab and you’ll wish you had a Pro R
So true👍
4 wheel off road go carts are cool, but who has one the Baja 1000 the majority of the past, BIKES! It takes more skill to ride a bike, it takes some skill to sit down and steer.
I came from the 2 wheel world, and bikes are amazing, but this is a SxS channel and the purpose of this video is comparing the dollar to fun ratio of a SxS, Jeep, and sand car. Some people will never ride a dirt bike...
I think its funny how guys get all butthurt when some guy with money buys a 45k side by side. The usual shit talk, like somehow being broke and having to duct tape shit together makes you more hardcore. You can spend all your time learning all about 4 wheeling. I spend my time learning to make more money, so I can buy the reliable high-end machine. No, I'm not going to start with a beater until I get your approval to step up, just to make you feel better. I feel zero shame for being able to afford this stuff, I worked very hard to get here.
I hear you, and you don't need a $45K SxS to have just as much fun either. This happens a ton in the bicycle world, I don't get it. We all spend our money on different things, to the level that makes us happy. We all splurge on some things, and cheap on others that we don't see as much value in. The sports top tier has become more expensive, but we can't be mad at Ferrari for making a car most can't afford, my 2 pesos....
If I wanted to just go rock crawling or just go to the dunes or just go pre running and nothing else. I could justify having A jeep or a rock crawler or Sandrail or pre-runner. Or I could have a side-by-side that is capable of doing all of them very well. Maybe not as well but very capable at all of them And much more.That is why I own a $30,000 side-by-side.
SxS is definately the most veristile. Even though mine is older I love it
On one of his recent presentations Robby Gordon said once the El Jefe Is out he'll probably be getting rid of his other pre-running rigs....whether it happens or not we'll see but that should tell you something about UTVs.
I always think the Jeep guys that literally get upset must just be pissed that a someone can purchase a UTV from the showroom and be ready to go the next day to do all of "their" trails in a ride that's cheaper, faster and more comfortable. Maybe not intense level 10 rock crawling, but everything else for sure.
Good points!
They do everything very good, I love mine.
100% agree, sxs are better in every terrain straight from factory.
Jeeps need to stay on the streets. Dummies on the internet who say jeeps are better have clearly never tried to chase a sxs thru fast paced desert whoops before
Thank you Nick!! SxS's rule!! Jeeps are like snails. 2 types of sand cars: 1) old-school/obsolete, 2) elite and too expensive. Pre-runners are not versatile. Nuff said.
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I agree with everything you have said. I love my rzr and ride as much as possible. The only thing that I just can’t get passed is the mandatory helmet law here in Cali. Riding in other states without a helmet is much more enjoyable and freeing. With a custom cage, suspension seats, and 5 point harnesses, I don’t see how my rzr is “more dangerous” than a V8 sand car in the dunes or a Jeep rock crawling in Johnson valley.
I came from the dirt bike world (literally sold helmets for a living for Fox) so I’m a huge advocate of wearing helmets, after being KO’ed and realizing how brutally dangerous these sports can be, but I know it’s not as comfortable. I agree that sand rails are no safer, and I assume that law went into effect once the Rhino accidents started happening?
@@ChupacabraOffroad yes, that’s correct. The laws were passed when the rhino accidents started happening. It is obvious when you read the law because it makes it illegal to add a rear bench seat in the cargo area which was common upgrade in rhinos. But SXS’s have come such a long way since the rhino days. The law seems outdated at this point.
I 100% agree with you. And it is even better because you know how to ride a bike lol
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Jeep rule!!! Heater!!ac!! Enough said!
Yeah only if you like going slow buddy
Why go outside if you are afraid of a little weather? Haha
What a dumb reason to pick a Jeep.