The Official Gilded Age Podcast | Ep. 1 “Never the New” | HBO
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- Hosts Alicia Malone (TCM) and Tom Meyers (The Bowery Boys) examine New York City hierarchy in the Gilded Age and the social constructs that go along with it. They react to the introduction of the Russell and the Van Rhijn families and how the series reflects 1800s New York. In part two, creator, writer and producer Lord Julian Fellowes joins the podcast along with Christine Baranski (Agnes Van Rhijn) to talk about creating the vision for the show and bringing Aunt Agnes to life. Watch The Gilded Age on HBO Max, and subscribe to The Official Gilded Age Podcast so you don’t miss an episode.
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Julian Fellows can continue to "ram" history down my throat anytime. I so enjoyed this 1st episode of the Guilded Age.
Also the "Dollar Princesses" were during this time who married into the British Aristocratic family. The money saved some of the historic estate homes. It's interesting.
Yes, thats one of Downtown Abbey main plot.
Also the plot in Edith Wharton's The Bucaneers. This was made into a BBC TV series in 1995, with Mira Sorvino
Yes Cora who married Lord Grantham was one such princess and they met at a party in New York for this very purpose.
And American girls learnt to live without bathrooms and plumbing
We are going to watch Gladys Russell marry a money poor titled brit. I hope she pulls a "Consuelo" and just shows out.
As someone who has Dutch and English ancestors who lived in pre Revolutionary NY it's interesting to me to see how these families continued after my lines broke off. I am impressed by how well Julian has researched all of this and I'm hoping that we get a visit from some of our favorite Downton Abbey Americans
Is this what a funeral is? "It wasn't worth such a long journey just to make sure Henry was dead". Epic! Love Aunt Agnes.
Watched it. Loved it. Everything I expected and more. The story pulls you in. Don't miss it.
Indeed , Wonderful !
Wow, what a grand time.
I love language as well.
As a former guide at Newport’s Breakers I think I noticed the Music Room with its beautiful blue marble fireplaces! Upcoming preview showed the Breakers Billiard Rolm.😊
My Son received an award at the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport. There was a dinner we attended at The Breakers and it was truly magical!!
Wonderful!! As guides we used to have a Christmas party and summer picnic at the mansions! Valet parking included !! Very fond memories! In fact I think I need to make a visit to Newport soon!! 😊
I am sure you had a grand time guiding tours at the Breakers. It was one of my favorite events to visit the Breakers.
Yes, it was a wonderful and fun experience! To this day I can recite the 45 minute script! 😊
I thought it looked familiar. I have been to The Breakers many times and I wondered it they were going to use some of the homes from NewPort
Would be nice to see a younger Martha Levinson mother of Cora crawly from downton abbey. Cora was born in the 1860s she would be 14 in 1882. so would be nice to see a cameo of the younger Martha character with her teen daughter.
Oh that would be amazing. I bet so many people would love to see that.
Agreed, but it would have to be done in such a way that it makes sense for the narrative of The Gilded Age. The timeline and social class certainly fit and it would be a nice tie in to reinforce the connection to Europe, but it can't just be thrown in as a wink and a nod to Downton fans. That would just be gratuitous, but if it helps round out a storyline then by all means.
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The Levinsons were from Cincinnati, not New York.
I am expecting Gladys to be a dollar princess. After all, there were happy dollar princesses.
I watched this Series from the beginning, it's very good. I'm especially interested in the African American lifestyles and old money vs new money, really interesting....
It’s is very interesting how quickly African Americans picked them selves up and rose in stature, after the end of slavery. Then how quickly and terribly they there put down. That is the real shame America must face, which is almost worse than slavery, because everyone participates in this subjugation of the black Americans. Those who actually participated in slavery was a much smaller number.
They need to show how even in the black community in NYC there was old money and New money . And also the colorist classes of the bloodvain society ( blacks with money who could pass for white) and the societies built for the darkerskinned upper and middle class old and new money
My Art History teacher started her lecture by saying "History is gossip."
I’m so excited to listen to these podcasts they are a perfect accompaniment to the show. I’m watching every episode twice, it’s a fascinating period.
Just a correction for the host: Christine Baranski did not say she herself was descended from the Drexel family. She said her late husband was the grandson of old-NYC society lady Elizabeth Drexel Lehr.
He was a lovely man and a great actor. Anyone who ever watched All My Children knew him as the wonderful Billy Clyde Tuggle.
The Russell character is clearly based on Jay Gould, Gilded Age railroad pirate. The character may have a different name, but he behaves in business like Gould and he even looks like him! Great Stuff...
I love his character. A ruthless businessman, which is the only way to be!
@@rhondawells7760 You may well be right, but you won't be surprised to know that his funeral was sparsely attended.
I think they are the Vanderbilts.
@@debrajenkins7777Yes, I think they're based on the Vanderbilt family.
At the time of writing this I have watched season 1 and half of season 2 I've finally found a podcast that is a passionate about this magnificent show as I am. So I've gone right back to the beginning of your podcasts to listen to them all. Also to show my support for the show as some critics were slating it and calling it boring, what do these so called critics know, how about asking the audience what we think! I love it and cant wait for season 3,4,5 etc .
Most enjoyable start to what promises to be another Julian Fellowes success! Extremely interesting and illuminating discussion.
I’m just happy that this is the first HBO based Podcast I might be able to watch.
In 1967, Disney did a movie called, "The Happiest Millionaire" was is closely based on the Drexel family at the start of WWI. The part about the boxing school is true and President Wilson did consider making physical training part of the military. In the end, as the young couple head to Detroit. It was a city that was growing by over a million every 10 years.
Please, everyone, if you can ever...please visit Newport. As a Rhode Islander, I can attest to the fact that they are glorious. Several scenes are shot in the "cottages".
i just love Julian Fellowes. He gets it.
I watched the series. It was wonderful. I like the character of Agnes, feeling she is strong and deep heart quite a kind woman.
She is very respectable and has a strong sense of family and of the obligation to do what's right. A true lady. I admire her a lot.
I met Ashlie Atkinson (Mrs Fish) in Pittsburgh while she was filming here. She came to the bar I work at for some drinks with some of the other people working on the film. She was really cool.
She was a STAR in Black Klansman. So good! Should have been nominated for supporting actress. I love her.
Very much enjoyed the first episode. Casting, writing, acting, direction, sets and costumes certainly don't disappoint. One of my grips about period production is when they play fast and loose with historical events. History as it happened is fascinating and entertaining enough without the need to take artistic license to make a story "better". Given how well Downton Abbey is done I don't think there will be any worry that GA will get it right. That said, I'm excited to see how the economic roller coaster of the era, the panics of 1884, 93, 96, and 1907 and 10, Tammany Hall, the end of Gilded Age and rise of the Progressive Era etc... will be incorporated into the story line. This is not a documentary so I don't expect exact fidelity to history, but some of these things definitely need to be included in the series.
Absolutely love this show. I was surprised that Marian comes from Doylestown rather than Elkins Park, which was an important area during the Gilded Age.
Bravo! Only someone from the neighborhood would pick up on that! But the land was really cheap in Doylestown so maybe that’s why. Also, Doylestown was an established artist community, so maybe that is why. Good point, though!
I loved the first episode! Loved seeing my friend Claybourne Elder as John Adams!!
I cannot decide which outfit I want to recreate everything is so beautiful.
Notice when Miss Scott came to dinner how the working class immigrants responded? This country is aweful from start to finish. Those ladies were SERVANTS but felt the need to exude superiority. The nerve. We are neither greater than or better than anyone. To the Miss Scott’s of the world, they fear you because of your greatness.
Yes. Did you catch that Ms Scott knows how tontear but the Irish servant girl
Does not. Also, the prior is while the other girl is under survitude.
Very interesting
Yet Ms Scott & her father having to yield the path to a white couple shows the ridiculousness of racism to me. Especially seeing as her father was likely more prominent than the man he was forced tonturas too.
@@mspurefunk5 exactly.
@samantha ssmith that’s ridiculous
I only started watching because of Christine Baranski. I did not even know her name lol. But i remember the face of someone who is a great actor. And i was born in May 1st, and she on May 2nd so i think i get her lol!
My family were 1 out of the 7 families that founded Manhattan island...we had a lot of family wars with the Rothschilds and so fourth
Well done to the show's creators, its amazing!!!!
Very interesting! You probably have many fascinating documents!
The families that stole Manhattan island you mean?
@@Leslie-ge2dt AND what land do you currently live on ?
@@KarlVanDuyn I live on Lenape land. And I also would never claim it as mine but hey colonizers gonna colonize I guess.
@@Leslie-ge2dt 2022.....get over yourself hunty
Marian forgot that Peggy bought her a train ticket when she was bereft of funds. I am so glad she reminded her. I wonder why the shop was shocked when Peggy went into the shop with Marian. They would have assumed she was her servant come to carry her packages and surely, they would have seen that before. Just wondering.
Maybe Peggy was dressed so nicely, she didn't look like a maid, and that confused them.
@@GuineaPig361 Good point
So cool. My family, the Wyckoff's, came to New Amsterdam in 1637.
How cool! Do you any articles of clothing or artifact or documents passed down? I imagine that would be against the odds from so long ago, but how wonderful it would be! We have a family Bible and a Fraktur for a marriage of our ancestors in Germany, both from the 1600’s. This is curtesy of my mother who married the eldest son. She thought those belonged to him and also was correct in thinking that he was the only one to preserve those items. Much love 💕🐝💕🇺🇸
Learned so much from this video! I'm going to rewatch the first episode now that you have taught me so much. Thank you!
Love this show and the characters!! Thank you HBO for sharing these wonderful series. Quality show and superb acting!
Very interesting serie, that show the social and economic relations at that era. Nothing is new under the sun !!!!
I love this freaking show
Just started listening to your podcast and really enjoyed it thank you! A part of me wishes Mrs Russell created her own “400” amongst the nouveau riche or whoever wishes to be a member of her circle of friends rather than trying to join Mrs Astor’s well established clique.
Guilded comes from the thin layer of gold in the mansions of the rich. It was big in Palm Beach with Flagler and Rockfeller. Here in Palm Beach we have the Flagler Museum a treasure and remant of the Guilded Age.
It's on repeat on my tv and my hubby is a bit worried about how crazed I am about it. 😅 I've had tv depression ever since Downton Abbey endedand now this 🥳🥳🥳🥳
I wasn't a fan of Downtown Abbey I couldn't get pass the first couple episodes. Gilded Age though I want to see more of as of right now.
Maybe after watching The Gilded Age Downton Abbey will be better for you!! It’s all intertwined history.❤️ best wishes no matter. I love history.
@@lperlman116 I mean it is set in the past and stuff might be going on, but Downtown Abby seemed stuffy to me, hence why I didn’t get into it. I enjoy history dramas as well.
I could never get into Downton Abbey because the central crisis seemed to be “oh no! Our landed gentry family - that did nothing to earn our wealth- might not keep it!” And my response was : good, you shouldn’t . This is a medieval system and carrying it into the 20th century is ridiculous. Gilded Age - while set earlier - feels more modern.
@@mariem24601 Downton Abbey it was more the characters felt stuffy (uppity) which maybe tied into your take on they didn’t work they just always had their status (land or whatnot).
In Gilded Age it is more new age vs old. Which is an interesting take.
Great new period tv show.
Been a fan of Lord Fellowes since Gosford Park.
Love the series & Love these Podcast & Love how they have the Beautiful photos on the screen as they are talking in the Podcast.
This series is Amazing !!!
Congratulations Julian Fellows
Another Fantastic !!! series 👏👏👏
Thank you for this!!!!!!
I LOVE this series and wish 7 days went by faster!
What a fantastic series. I actually work with someone who has a very small roll in episode 1. Very happy for her.
And funny that they give the definition of "The Guilded Age". A few years back, they found that the wall "guiding" at "The Breakers" was platinum.
The word is "gilded". Means a thin veneer of gold over some other material.
Great job on this podcast.
I really enjoy the podcast after seeing all episodes of this fantastic series! What I find especially interesting is the position of black people and the black elite that was also present in that age, a fact I didn't know anything about. Thanks for educating us!
The dialogue is great. Looking forward to the next episode.
Please note that what was known as central park was originally Owned by a thriving affluent Primary African American community though it did have a mix of whites into it as well. It was called Senegal Park also known as Seneca Park. During the rise of the so called guided age it was stolen these families was forced out and it was made into a park
I really enjoy the show, got hooked on the first episode. I only wish it was 20 episodes instead of 10 episodes 😒. And I love Miranda's Great, Great, Great Grandmother 👵
its only 10 episodes? Thought this was an ongoing series.
I am so exited to watch it! I adore Downton Abbey; I dearly hope this is going to be the frame in which we will meet young Cora and her family and possibly see the love story unfold that gave us Downton Abbey
Alicia Malone, I'm hooked. You know how to tell a story and what questions to ask. TCM is so fortunate to have you (and your colleagues, of course)--a perfect set to my mind.
Keep doing what you do, brainy beauty, and we'll keep on enjoying.
Beautifully done!!!!
I LOVE BARANSKI.
Even though she spreads nonsense??? to Ms Baranski's notion that women were tied up in corsets and 10 skirts all day and changed into and out of these elaborate garments numerous times even when there were no social events going on in their houses is a pure nonsense. They did have comfortable robes, pajamas, lingerie and comfortable non-restrictive house attires of all types (winter and summer) to lounge around their living quarters during off days, for sure. Just imagine being cinched in a corset for 18 hours with several dress changes when there's nobody around to admire it. What woman would have subjected herself to such utter idiocy for no reason?!!!
I know rust will be fabulous! Thank you for doing this✨
Team orientedness needed desperately
The team of horses harnessed to the Russell's carriage are an anachronism. The Fjord horses were not imported from Norway until the mid twentieth century.
EDITH WHARTON WROTE HOUSE OF MIRTH.
I READ THIS NOVEL AND COULD NOT IMAGINE WHAT WOMEN WENT THROUGH TO FIND THEIR PLACE IN OLD NEW YORK.
FEB 28 2024.
In the 1970s, Carnegie began making the steel which soon would enable skyscrapers to be built, not "decades" away. The 1st such skyscraper was built in Chicago in 1884, just 2 yrs after this series begins.
Very well done podcast both Alicia and Tom with detailed historic events that unfortnately New York and the world is still living today due to oppressive wealth accumulation. Julian Fellowes is a delight to listen to and I think he should keep talking and writing about many history chapters outside of Europe too. Christine is a stalwart but to listen to her about her process and interpretations was refreshing and so lovely. The show is just brilliant I hope it packs in more episodes per season and aslo has a good long run like Downton Abbey. HBO should try to remove the paywall on this show because it is a vital chapter in American history and history of economics and culture that every American should have access to view in order to know the beginnings of unfettered capitalism. We live in a world where history is being silenced and banned this show should be received by all.
Anyone noticed how important female ancestry is in this society? That's a big difference from Britain, where aristocrats got their social standing from their fathers and the titles and land they inherit. But in NYC, it's "your grandmother was a Livingston!" and "we're related though the Livingstons!" and "his mother's people came on the Mayflower" and "her background isn't impeccable...thanks to her mother." Their male ancestry is almost an afterthought.
Great musical score, it was singular in creating interest.
We also have the show 1883, one year later, where people were going west to seek their fortunes.
I think of the new show “1883”. Be fun if some teleport switched the characters’ places.
Love love love
Soooo freaking good! Thanks for this HBO!!!! It established so much more context.
Friends and I LOVE this series! Costumes are Beautiful! Agnes character has the BEST lines!
Awesome show, Mrs. Astor 400 vs the new money
BRAVO !
Love you Bowery Boys! (Read that like a Guns N Roses fan at a concert!) My ears perked up when I recognized Tom's voice.
I just loved the series
Loved it!!!
Yes! Lovely work.
From Downturd Abbey to Diarrea Highway
Gonorrhead Age
I Worship this Era 🙇🏾♂️💫👑👣
I don't even watch the series but I'm listening to the podcast lol
Belgravia is under rated. It was a great one off.
Agnes would know never to use "different" when "differently" is the grammatically proper word--IF she were old school.
I love Mrs Fish
I love the nods to Martin Scorsese's "Age of Innocence"...which I consider his finest film.
Greetings from florida 🐬 I watched this Gem 💎 yesterday and it was Fantastic ✨
It may be helpful to add a historian with a background in black history to your conversation from time to time. I believe you and your listeners would find such perspectives uncovering a great opportunity and not a little bit illuminating.
1:08:08-1:08:15 Christine Baranski stated it was her late husband not herself.
Do I have to pay HBO to see the series?I don't have even cable tv,only internet and my computer...
I was disappointed in the script so far. We get some understanding of the Brook family and their motivations but little about Bertha, other than she has a sister she doesn't want to have visit. I like how Fellowes mentions in the podcast that there was nothing overtly spectacular about Mrs. Astor at least in the sense of her appearance or humor. I come to the conclusion that many of these rich, society women back then were very intelligent but had no outlet for themselves other than planning parties and trying to keep control of their surroundings. I wish Fellowes would explore that more with the characters. How does Bertha come into her sense of style and design?
This show is written with the intend to be able to develop different storylines at the same time. They also anticipate different seasons. The first episode is just a primer to the canvas: you see the different personalities and you understand the dynamics of society. The interesting stuff will develop in the next episodes.
Love it. ❤
*What mansions/buildings are featured in these photos on rotation during the podcast? They don't seem to be from the show.*
Leaving this comment on each episode as I listen, hope someone can answer this pretty please! It's driving me nuts!
It would be nice to have some video clips
Am I the only one that thinks we're living in a gilded age TODAY? Millionaires flying themselves to space while 2.5 million children are homeless. Thanks, Julian, for reminding us we are just as ridiculous as the British.
Boa noite assisti ao 2° episódio, por engano, achando que era um filme, rsrsrs. É uma série! Gostei! Muito interessante, adoro filmes de época. Resolvi procurar encontrei aqui. Mas é em inglês. Não dou
conta. Tem como reproduzir em português? Agradeço a gentileza!
Marise Minas Gerais
What a happy comment! To say you thought it was a movie and then were delighted to see it was a series. That’s a high compliment to the series. Much love 💕🐝💕🇺🇸
Gostaria que o youtube traduzisse as legendas porque meu inglês é muito pobre. Sou brasileiro e amo séries de época com histórias inteligentes e situações bem construídas. Como The Gilded Age é uma produção a este modo para mim seria muito bom entender este podcast.
Did Marian Brooks character have her inheritance stolen by her attorney?
I thought that actor playing Miss Brooks was awful, so stilted and lifeless in her performance. So I looked her up to see if she's done anything else. And I was astounded to read she's Meryl Streep's daughter, what a shock!
I thought the very same thing. The Van Rijhn family is lifeless as a whole... Cynthia Nixon is generally basic, but Christine Baranski should be better. I do like the show though.
@@theresakeith5854 Yes I love Christine Baranski, maybe she'll bring life to that family if future scripts give her half a chance. 🙂
Sometimes, 'stilted and lifeless" is the goal. Think about Mary in Downton Abbey. However I disagree with you. To me she behaves like a stranger that is put in the middle of a group and needs to find how to behave: you remain still, you look around and you are careful.
What a lot of Americans don't understand is that most of the Irish immigrants didn't speak English but could only speak Gaelic. That is the major reason they were regulated to servant work.
"You Will Last Long;" And Especially It Is Interwoven; Wisely; As A Suggestion of "The Astors" And Their Experience With "The History of Their Association To the Wealth of Their Libraries;" "In Order; To Keep The Wealth And Its Treasures Within Some of Its Greatest Books; Even As Unto The Territories of "The Heart of Man;" In New York City;
Was the fashion quite different between NYC and England?
When Agnes told her staff to get Peggy a room, she didn't specify where so I wondered if maybe the staff took it upon themselves to relegate Peggy to servants areas while Agnes perhaps wouldn't have though simply didn't get involved. Dunno. Seemed interesting that the staff assumed her instruction there. Agnes certainly didn't have an issue with Peggy being black.
Randoph Hearst Built his Castle in California. He had people Scower the World for Antiques to Buy Money no object This was in the 1920's They still have 4 whearehouses full of stuff in San Fransisco
Sorry, a few typos here. The word is "scour". Also, "warehouses", and "San Francisco".
Misunderstood in gold "rush" times when they wrote history with the word "guilded" ....they meant guilted (corrupt times)imo.
The scenes being shown during the podcast: are those REAL mansions or are they sets from the show?
That’s the set.
超喜歡的
I really enjoyed the episode…. But part of me is wondering if this is glorifying the inequalities still existing in American society, time will tell it’s only episode one but it’s hard to “root” for the people who’ oppressed the rest of our recent ancestors
like most, there is good and bad in them.