Tenuous and vague one, but Mark Jones scored a bizarre one for the Scarlets v ?Treviso? In the late 00s. He was tackled and not held, but his forwards cleared out over the top. But as no Treviso player initiated the ruck (old laws), and Jones hadn’t been tackled, he got to his feet and emerged from the mass of bodies and sprinted for the corner. Try was given, but looked bizarre. There is also an Arwel Thomas try for Swansea v ?Newport? around 2001. Both teams assumed there was a break in play so huddled. Thomas and the referee were on their own, and he took it quickly. Running in unopposed. As he hadn’t indicated he was going for goal, he could still take a tap penalty. It was just bizarre as the other 29 players had huddled up. Sorry, extremely tenuous, I’d be amazed if you found either of these!
I'm really confused by 4:00. So a player from the Rays grounded the ball behind their own line, but they awarded a try to the Stars even though there wasn't an attacking player anywhere near the ball? That's insane
That Sydney Stars try is a great argument for kit clash rules in rugby being a lot stricter. And also for referees to be goddamn competent, jeez now with Owens retiring there are like three
Andrew - Chris Henry try against Ospreys May 2016. Ospreys have a defensive ruck on their line, scrumhalf rolls it back to set up a box kick - he rolls the ball onto the try line, Chris Henry dives through and touches it down.
Andrew Forde making some excellent videos recently keep it up. Would it be possible if you could you do a video about Japan Top League Rugby as last season showed a great brand of rugby and it would be cool to see a compilation of it
Yes, this would be a try... Control of the ball in a try is any amount of downward pressure from the hand onto the ball. So a try can be awarded with even the smallest contact of a fingertip.
3:33 Try is valid. It’s a small detail in the law book. Try is only disallowed when attacking ball carrier held the ball into try zone. If the ball is already in the try zone, by for example a kick, a player can score a try even if they are in touch during grounding.
Yeh we've been hit hard too here in England though I am literally counting down the days to the six nations because it will just something to lift spirits of rugby lover in the UK and Ireland.
2'45: this happened during european cup final. Since we called in french rugby this kind of error : "une poitrenade" as this Clement Poitreneaud who made this mistake. He was 22 years old BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS the reaction of all the team (trainer, paettners, including the captain): Nobody heap on him (french verb "accabler") The following year He wins with Tolouse another european cup. When he retired (2016), he was the player on the top 5 of the most important number of game in the european cup (96), and won 3 time of this cup. fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/poitrenade
question: if you have a penalty can you kick for the corner and have a team mate score catch it and a try? or do you have to at least attempt for the posts?
I vaguely recall it being done in an old Wales game. Vannes tried it recently in a D2 game against Angouleme but it was disallowed for unsporting conduct....World Rugby law 8.20: If the team indicates to the referee the intention to kick at goal, they must kick at goal. The intention to kick can be communicated to the referee or signalled by the arrival of the kicking tee or sand, or when the player makes a mark on the ground....A sly dog maneouvre would need to be carefully orchestrated not to anagonise the ref.
My friend, be proud! Italy is a top-20 team in the world! They have the great experience and horrible luck to play top-10 teams almost exclusively. It will make for a strong Italian team but, like the making of sausage...some may not want to watch. 😜
Downward pressure. Since the video showed the ball change direction, that would be enough for the TMO. (I’m a rank amateur, btw, so this comment comes standard with one grain of salt....)
It's rugby league Looks like a tackle/ stoppage in play has just happened Ball is in play as soon as he rolls it back with his foot (called a play the ball) Normally 21 would pick it up/ pass it as soon as it is rolled back Instead he turns around and has a chat with his forwards meaning that the blue markers are free to pick it up and score
There’s multiple videos of men conceding very similar tries in this very video, how come you haven’t commented saying “quality advert for men’s rugby” ?
@@AndrewDavidForde Nope there aren’t. There’re errors of judgment, lacks of concentration, officials’ errors, and genuine “bizarre tries”...not Benny Hill calamity. Bless you for being so woke though. Very good of you.
@@AndrewDavidForde You mean the one where a quick flick pass (skill) goes wrong and is intercepted with a boot, then decent footwork and a straight chase, then a fumble after gathering but caused by a tackle, and one dick of the day moment where he passes it back to no one (but may well have been a rules knowledge attempt to disguise an intentional pass out the dead ball line)...then a good bit of skill to get the downward touch and try? That one. Has some similarities, but it’s a stretch. Where are all the other “multiple” examples?
@@davidw4970 Hyperbole lad, hyperbole. Biarritz' try vs Colomiers on Thursday to win the game is another good example. Good analysis of the try, I'd also add that the fullback slowly jogs to the ball while it's in the in-goal area, long before the winger is anywhere near it. However, my point is, if you can accept that the try I mentioned above is not an advert of men's rugby (professional rugby as well by the way), then how is one try in one match (look at the scoreline, the team conceding clearly have a tendency to concede) an advert for women's rugby?
There's a try just before it in a men's professional game that interestingly you haven't commented similar about with regards to men's rugby. Why is that?
There's some pretty similar tries scored by men rugby players in this video, and you haven't commented "this is why people don't watch mens rugby" - curious as to why that is?
@@harryburrows2112 Sorry I didn't realise there was a competition going on between mens and women's rugby? Why are they competing against each other on viewing figures exactly?
@@AndrewDavidForde What are you talking about? Nobody said anything about a competition. You asked me why I didn't make the same comment about mens rugby and I answered your question.
I didn’t realize a short clip or two of women’s rugby would cause some men’s testosterone levels to drop so severely. Medical attention might be advisable if this pattern continues....
I saw one clip of Italy, but don’t know their regional clubs to identify them. But, to your point, I saw my welsh friends more than I’d care to in this collection! 👍🏻
Would you like to see a part two? Comment down suggestions!
Murray Toulon
The halfway from WP Nel. Unusual because of position, not improbability!
Rugby’s worst lids?
Jonathan Joseph against Toulon
Tenuous and vague one, but Mark Jones scored a bizarre one for the Scarlets v ?Treviso? In the late 00s.
He was tackled and not held, but his forwards cleared out over the top. But as no Treviso player initiated the ruck (old laws), and Jones hadn’t been tackled, he got to his feet and emerged from the mass of bodies and sprinted for the corner.
Try was given, but looked bizarre.
There is also an Arwel Thomas try for Swansea v ?Newport? around 2001. Both teams assumed there was a break in play so huddled. Thomas and the referee were on their own, and he took it quickly. Running in unopposed. As he hadn’t indicated he was going for goal, he could still take a tap penalty. It was just bizarre as the other 29 players had huddled up.
Sorry, extremely tenuous, I’d be amazed if you found either of these!
3:33
He's clearly in touch.
That's a shocking call.
Are we not going to talk about how crazy treviso was in playing a quick ball IN YOUR OWN TRY
Yes, he clearly is in touch. Foot on ground over line.
What's that flag?
@@Raven-ci8pk CANZUK
5:12 this is so beautifull
I'm really confused by 4:00. So a player from the Rays grounded the ball behind their own line, but they awarded a try to the Stars even though there wasn't an attacking player anywhere near the ball? That's insane
Crazy isn’t it!
It's just a mistake by the ref😂
Yellow shoulder on the Rays' uniform meant he was confused for a Stars player. Real stuff up
Did that player at least got the try awarded on the score sheet?
First auto-try in the rugby history haha
Another cracking piece of work, Andrew! You started with one of the wildest ever!
Cheers Geraint! Much appreciated :)
i remember being at the match and asking my dad if that could happen and he said it wouldnt. i was laughing when we got
home i think its that funny
2:36 my wife and I were there and saw it live - absolutely brilliant!
I was at that Ospreys/Benetton game, it was all rather surreal for a couple of minutes then we all had a bit of a cheer. He was in touch though.
1:07 😏 everyone knew what was coming here😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂
Classic women’s rugby
So yere going to ingnore the exact same thing by professional men one club before
@@fw9498 Triggered! Soy lattes avaliable dude
@@graytoby1 not triggered jus sick of people putting down women's sport for no reason
2:26 I want to cry... The most sadly famous POITRENADE 😢
It's actually really funny how this video is actually about how good the tries look because of the opponent teams' errors.
Superb collection mate - thank you!
That Sydney Stars try is a great argument for kit clash rules in rugby being a lot stricter.
And also for referees to be goddamn competent, jeez now with Owens retiring there are like three
I think Nigel should be required to undergo cloning before he’s permitted to retire.
The shoulder forward pass is an underrated tactic for sure ! 😂
I think the Howley try has appeared on this channel more than anything else
These are good! My fave is Bill Twelvetrees’ contribution to the list. But, what an entertaining collection!
Andrew - Chris Henry try against Ospreys May 2016. Ospreys have a defensive ruck on their line, scrumhalf rolls it back to set up a box kick - he rolls the ball onto the try line, Chris Henry dives through and touches it down.
That first try is genuinely Top ten Best tries ever
2:53 why would you do that. Just why. Fair play to the 10 getting back
Needs a part 2, there are loads of weird tries out there
Any suggestions?
@@AndrewDavidForde I remember Gareth Maule scored one for the Scarlets a few years ago from a penalty kick, similar to the Harlequins try in the video
@@AndrewDavidForde The one where the 10 for Stade Français Rugby tried to kick the ball out of the air instead of catching it is a classic
Matthew Williams did think of that video but sadly can’t find any footage of it! Any others?
@@AndrewDavidForde I think Ireland vs England 2019 in the 6 nations had a couple of howlers. Pains me to say it as an Irish man!
Andrew Forde making some excellent videos recently keep it up. Would it be possible if you could you do a video about Japan Top League Rugby as last season showed a great brand of rugby and it would be cool to see a compilation of it
Excuse me I’m a newcomer to the sport, at 1:06 would this be a try even though the guy in the red jersey didn’t gain control of the ball?
Yes, this would be a try... Control of the ball in a try is any amount of downward pressure from the hand onto the ball. So a try can be awarded with even the smallest contact of a fingertip.
@@Tuckersluckier awesome. Thanks for replying
You got a great answer already. I’m just here to say welcome to rugby. I’m “new” myself. “Only” 10 years. 🤗 love this game.
Very good part two please cant wait !
100% that Scottish try vs Italy was the most weird thing
As a Scotland fan i was watching it live screaming at Fagerson to ground it!
That first try was straight from the training pitch, as they say in football what a set piece that was 😂
2nd one was so bizarre i wasn't sure which team was actually attacking.
I'm still confused at what happens in the clip where the guy scores a try against his own team..
Surely it should have been a scrum on the 5? 🤔🤷🏼♂️
The ref confused the yellow on the players shirt for an attacking player's strip. Just a huge cock-up
@@cameronduff9820 that’s the best explanation so far.....
the most bizarre thing about alot of these is that they were even awarded. At least 3 of these are clearly not tries.
0:00
Nice one
3:33 Try is valid. It’s a small detail in the law book. Try is only disallowed when attacking ball carrier held the ball into try zone. If the ball is already in the try zone, by for example a kick, a player can score a try even if they are in touch during grounding.
Why is that even a rule though
@@bobsquashv2742 lol great question, idk 😄
We've just had another 6 weeks of full lockdown announced in Ireland. Thanks Andrew for some really badly needed relief and distraction.
Yeh we've been hit hard too here in England though I am literally counting down the days to the six nations because it will just something to lift spirits of rugby lover in the UK and Ireland.
2'45: this happened during european cup final. Since we called in french rugby this kind of error : "une poitrenade" as this Clement Poitreneaud who made this mistake. He was 22 years old
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS the reaction of all the team (trainer, paettners, including the captain): Nobody heap on him (french verb "accabler")
The following year He wins with Tolouse another european cup.
When he retired (2016), he was the player on the top 5 of the most important number of game in the european cup (96), and won 3 time of this cup.
fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/poitrenade
Don’t heap. That’s excellent! Thank you for that.
Poitrenaud is a french legend. And every legend can make that type of mistake.
Ellis Jenkins: future Lions captain if he can stay fit. Awesome player.
This could also be summarised as "shittiest defenses in history"
1:08 wtf was that
Ikr
question: if you have a penalty can you kick for the corner and have a team mate score catch it and a try? or do you have to at least attempt for the posts?
I vaguely recall it being done in an old Wales game. Vannes tried it recently in a D2 game against Angouleme but it was disallowed for unsporting conduct....World Rugby law 8.20: If the team indicates to the referee the intention to kick at goal, they must kick at goal. The intention to kick can be communicated to the referee or signalled by the arrival of the kicking tee or sand, or when the player makes a mark on the ground....A sly dog maneouvre would need to be carefully orchestrated not to anagonise the ref.
The law about this seems clear on the subject of intent, but I expect some refs would let it slide.
Rob Howley was gambling
...on that kick.
I had to watch the Scarlets-Benetton one twice because I lost track of which team was playing which way the first time
I’m still pouring over the maps, trying to sort it out... :-)
what about were he kisses him at 4:44
Boys will be boys... 😜
Thought the Connor Murray try vs Toulon would be on here.
Yeah what a try
That aussie game what was it never heard if those teams
The nrc (national rugby championship), a level below super rugby but above Shute shield. That was the Sydney stars vs north harbour rays
Unbelievable how many of these involve Welsh teams. The jammiest nation in the history of rugby.
At 3:34 he is clearly in touch, TMO made a mistake.
I remember when this was my favourite Y-Tube Channel
Still is 😂😂😂😂😂
if there is a part two you can add Finn Russel's try against Ireland this six nations
2:35 looks to have pretty clearly gone out.
If you had made this video a week later you could have added this week's Biarritz late (and very bizarre) try against Colomiers 😂
Saint Helens winning try in the 2020 super League grand final
If we included league, the super league final moments deserve inclusion
You need the try of Beauxis vs Bath. Surely.
3:31 It is bizarre because the wrong decision was made.
The women’s try was just women’s rugby lmao. Hence why about 7 people globally watch it
ever notice how the most wild union tries are common league tries?
So basically that was a header assisted try
The women though😂
If you look closely at the rob howley try the ball actually touches the side line
I'm not sure has anyone here ever watched woman's rugby but stuff like this is a regular occurrence, it's practically unwatchable without laughing
I saw the first one live I was on the right of the posts
4:05 how can u score an own try?
As the say goes “If you can’t beat them join them”
The Quinn’s try was very weird
That first try, tho...
Well, at least we Italians are the best at something.
My friend, be proud! Italy is a top-20 team in the world! They have the great experience and horrible luck to play top-10 teams almost exclusively. It will make for a strong Italian team but, like the making of sausage...some may not want to watch. 😜
1:57 is not Rugby, well not Rugby in the context of the other videos. That is Rugby League.
5:00 surely it's not properly grounded
Of course it is.
Downward pressure. Since the video showed the ball change direction, that would be enough for the TMO. (I’m a rank amateur, btw, so this comment comes standard with one grain of salt....)
Do a video on BIZARRE tries in women's rugby
That 3rd try is hardly strange in women’s rugby let’s be fair
can sum1 explain 1:54
It's rugby league
Looks like a tackle/ stoppage in play has just happened
Ball is in play as soon as he rolls it back with his foot (called a play the ball)
Normally 21 would pick it up/ pass it as soon as it is rolled back
Instead he turns around and has a chat with his forwards meaning that the blue markers are free to pick it up and score
@@aidansmith9179 thanks!
Quality advert for women's rugby @1:06
Magic
There’s multiple videos of men conceding very similar tries in this very video, how come you haven’t commented saying “quality advert for men’s rugby” ?
@@AndrewDavidForde
Nope there aren’t. There’re errors of judgment, lacks of concentration, officials’ errors, and genuine “bizarre tries”...not Benny Hill calamity. Bless you for being so woke though. Very good of you.
David W did you not see the Scarlets try vs. Treviso just before hand?
@@AndrewDavidForde
You mean the one where a quick flick pass (skill) goes wrong and is intercepted with a boot, then decent footwork and a straight chase, then a fumble after gathering but caused by a tackle, and one dick of the day moment where he passes it back to no one (but may well have been a rules knowledge attempt to disguise an intentional pass out the dead ball line)...then a good bit of skill to get the downward touch and try?
That one.
Has some similarities, but it’s a stretch. Where are all the other “multiple” examples?
@@davidw4970 Hyperbole lad, hyperbole. Biarritz' try vs Colomiers on Thursday to win the game is another good example.
Good analysis of the try, I'd also add that the fullback slowly jogs to the ball while it's in the in-goal area, long before the winger is anywhere near it.
However, my point is, if you can accept that the try I mentioned above is not an advert of men's rugby (professional rugby as well by the way), then how is one try in one match (look at the scoreline, the team conceding clearly have a tendency to concede) an advert for women's rugby?
Wonderful!
J'en ai vu des essais deguelasse... mais alors celui-la!!!
Shame a couple of these tries weren't from rugby, like 1:53 and 5:24
excelenttttt
1:06 woman moment
Replace the word bizarre with uncommon & you would now have the appropriate title!
La poitrenade
Should rename shithouse tries
ok
“Why don’t you watch women’s rugby?”
There's a try just before it in a men's professional game that interestingly you haven't commented similar about with regards to men's rugby. Why is that?
This clip just ruined woman's rugby 😐
Woman’s rugby is just hard to watch…
I think 1:06 is why women are paid less
It's kind of strange how the thumbnails for these videos always seem to imply English failure.
You say that like it’s a bad thing! 😜 just kidding of course. But this thumbnail does seem to hint Ireland pulled one over on England.
third
fourth
1:07 This is why people don't watch womens rugby
There's some pretty similar tries scored by men rugby players in this video, and you haven't commented "this is why people don't watch mens rugby" - curious as to why that is?
If you try hard to find a problem in anything you will find a problem.
@@AndrewDavidForde Maybe because people watch mens rugby? The viewing figures speak for themselves mate.
@@harryburrows2112 Sorry I didn't realise there was a competition going on between mens and women's rugby? Why are they competing against each other on viewing figures exactly?
@@AndrewDavidForde What are you talking about? Nobody said anything about a competition. You asked me why I didn't make the same comment about mens rugby and I answered your question.
What’s the point of this ? Fill me in on this sport
Too bad you included women’s rugby clips. I’m outta here. I’m sure you feel that you are “inclusive” by doing so. Absurd
You must be fun at parties
I didn’t realize a short clip or two of women’s rugby would cause some men’s testosterone levels to drop so severely. Medical attention might be advisable if this pattern continues....
Too many of these from Italy/Italian teams :(
I saw one clip of Italy, but don’t know their regional clubs to identify them. But, to your point, I saw my welsh friends more than I’d care to in this collection! 👍🏻