Worked with concrete for two years and have been in the construction part for 15years. To get rid of the noice on the worksite is a huge+ for you and all who work close to you. The removal of the fumes for any indoor or closed area is just massive! Great machine
thats one of the better applications for battery power. no noise, no fumes no carburator failing or shutoff cant crack issues. concrete does NOT stop curing when your equipment breaks down
I like working with concrete from some simple projects I've done around my place, I wish I had been introduced to it earlier in my life as I might have made a career out of it. Those machines were fantastic!
Great machines = great job. Very impressed with these machines and the low amount of noise and no exhaust fumes to deal with. You did a great job and purchasing these were a smart investment. Hope you and Greg have a MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Gas and plugin tools are becoming the thing of the past very quick. I used my battery snow blower last winter and it worked great without all the noise. Did my 80 feet driveway on 3/4 battery with 3 .5 inches of snow.
KYLE, I have to admit Milwaukee tools are pretty impressive..!!!! The battery technology is unmatched..And just the overall tool quality Stellar man….👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@beartiger1553 What do those big ole batteries cost to replace? I’m guessing $2-3K. That’s what makes it not really an apples to apples comparison to me. Initial output is already 2X+, then if you’re buying new batteries every 18 months, that really strains the deal.
@@psidvicious I’m in Australia the batteries I run coast $218 each I’m not paying to replace them mine have come under warranty the last 2 I had replaced are nearly 20 months old
Yeah, the Milwaukee M18 Fuel battery system charges fast! I have an M18 8AH battery and I can charge it from one bar in about 30 minutes! Milwaukee has the best battery system!
Now ya did it. Think you had people giving you too much "advice" before? Now you just unleashed the Concrete Guys! Lol, everyone of them are gonna have differing opinions on how you SHOULD'VE done it. On the other hand, those power trowels are friggin Awesome!! Great work! Floor looks amazing!!
Talking about people who have product influence brought to mind NORM ABRAM. He help to sell more Porter Cable biscuit joiners and cabinet saws than can be imagined.
And one of those memories was a 2nd floor apartment floor - about 100 yards - late in day on a sub freezing night forecast in South East FL. Yeah - and that NEVER happens anymore. Slab should NOT have been poured. Additives used to accelerate the set, but the slab froze anyway. All you can do is get it flat as you can and come back and grind a finish later on.
In SE Florida back in my day the aggregate tended to float so you used a "juke" to smash the agg down into the slab. That was a workout. Then a "darby" to float the top - later on a bull float was used (better). Looks like your aggregate is "less floaty" rock thus no need to smash it down.
With the old school gas powered finishers you HAD to be experienced because you only influenced "steering" them. If you tried to muscle it the machine could, would. and did throw your ass off the slab - and if it was on an upper floor - well you can't fly ;-)
it's always interesting to watch how different ppl in the US do things compared to us in Europe. here, you're required to run a 1cm thick dilatation stripe along the side of the walls, where the poured concrete slab butts up against. you could argue that inside the house the temperature will mostly be constant, so there's no need for dilatation, however you started off the work in the video on an outside area, where I'm pretty sure dilatation could be an issue. I'm not saying this is wrong, but over here, you're used to seeing different methods / requirements / code.
Expansion joint is typically used on most jobs like this in the US as well. Don’t know why they didn’t, on this one. It’s actually over-used in my opinion. You have to remember, concrete will never ever get larger than the day it is poured, in it’s plastic state, no matter what the temperature rise could get to. While curing it will contract from the edges and there will be a “crack” all the way around the edges, where it was poured against the wall. A cold joint is formed when new concrete is poured against older, smooth concrete.
In my area it's not typical, I think it should be used more outside as well as a thermal break but the general thought is because of the initial shrink and then the walls and floor should expand/contract slowly and similarly.
Wait! .... does THIS guy have a channel? I would have liked to see him pour the new foundation UNDER that old house. I hope he got it on film or whatever. VERY cool. 25 years ago I helped my brother a little as he lifted up his 100-year-old house and poured a new foundation under it, but I was only there a couple of days and didn't get to see the whole project. I poured a few sections under my 150 year old house... but it was nothing like this. Thanks for sharing this with us. I hope you learn what you want to know about concrete so maybe you can incorporate THAT service into your overall product as well. All I remember is that it is REALLY tough work.... and doing it every day would be quite a challenge.
Much respect to content creator. These new phones and equipment for videos have a lot to be desired because you simply can't hear them as well as before. I did enjoy the content, and volume changed around 4:30. 😊
I’ve been watching your channel for about 3 yrs. I thought you were joking when you said you never read instruction material and maintenance is something you do after the tool breaks. You weren’t joking. 🙃
At first I thought no way because of the cost. Than when the Company owner said he wish he'd know of something like this 20 years ago. Because of the health issues of breathing in the exhaust in basements. And he is right you can't put a price on that.
No thermal break between the floor and the walls? The insulation beneath the concrete floor should have been extended up the walls the height (depth) of the concrete 4"?
@@PeterJ-pj3ip Problem is that no one is asking for those things, and if you do them, don't expect to be paid for it. What they are paid for is to get the concrete in there, and make it look good. That's what counts and what they are rated by. If it looks good, all is well.
Yes. But the owner has a responsibility to understand building science and advocate for themselves. The architect and engineer can as well. And it would have been a modest increase in the budget for materials and labor to make a world of difference in the performance of this system.
Get that damn chute out of the basement! I'd have lost my mind on you all. Tiny basement, 12 guys running around and a chute in the way. Wind that mixer up and pull that crete! (Edit: I should watch the whole video before commenting haha.)
That power trowel is the way to go, especially in basements. I've almost killed half my brain cells running a gas one in basements. That's the cat's meow!
I never ever liked pouring and finishing concrete I don't mind framing it out I've done everything in construction and loved all of it most of the time. I'm always amazed that the shoe prints never show it would worry me to death I had one concrete contractor and he and his guys did all my work nice advertisement for the equipment and to have a guy that looks like he's been doing it for fifty years with his approval
Hi Kyle, Appreciate all your efforts in improving the building community. We have a building project we are contracting for - our local lumberyard expansion; Three Oaks MI. We are going to include hands on training opportunities at various points in the project for local contractors. We would love to have you teach setting the 66’ trusses on this project. Please let us know if you would like to be a part of this.
I'd be curious to see how long the battery overall capacity lasts. The faster a battery charges, the faster the overall capacity degrades. Sure, seeing how long the batteries last on the jobsite when they are brand new is important, but I'm more curious how they are doing a year from now after being used, abused, and quick-charged 5 or 6 days a week.
Hey, watch the video very impressed. It would help if you did turn the button on to start that’s a no-brainer but with that being said, they seem to be a whole lot lighter than the Gas version and the battery life is amazing and the best part is like the old man said at the end of the day in an application like this, where you’re not exposed to the atmosphere there’s no fumes and you can run them all day long and you’re not gonna die of CO2 poisoning which is a big deal. Are they expensive? Yeah hopefully they’ll come down but the R&D and like you said the batteries, the batteries is the biggest chunk of that money.
Concrete truck driver looking like one of yall cut him off in traffic and hes thinking about just hitting the switch and emptying the whole truck in your basement bunk it
If you have to have a no fumes/exhaust environment, ok but otherwise - $7500 vs $3500 and I bet the batteries are at least $2-3K to replace, it doesn’t seem like an apples to apples comparison for me. Quieter is nice but the price is still prohibitive.
all trowel machine have a anti swing safety switch on them , incase you loose yr grip on the handle bar the machine would be spinning like a helicopter for hours till it ran out of fuel ,,, it is a centrifugal inertia switch ,, been on them for a 100 years lol lol ,,,,
In some applications the battery operated equipment is to expensive. However in certain situations where fumes from a gas engine can create a problem with workers in tight or enclosed areas it is better to have battery operated equipment.
Worked with concrete for two years and have been in the construction part for 15years. To get rid of the noice on the worksite is a huge+ for you and all who work close to you. The removal of the fumes for any indoor or closed area is just massive! Great machine
Agree. I loved using them
thats one of the better applications for battery power. no noise, no fumes no carburator failing or shutoff cant crack issues. concrete does NOT stop curing when your equipment breaks down
None of which are valid issues.
I like working with concrete from some simple projects I've done around my place, I wish I had been introduced to it earlier in my life as I might have made a career out of it. Those machines were fantastic!
sometimes I feel the same way
wow 4 guys striking at one point, fast pour. really nice.
I can smell this video, the smell of fresh concrete inside on a crisp morning is wonderful
Just got home from a long day of work, watching more work.
Great machines = great job. Very impressed with these machines and the low amount of noise and no exhaust fumes to deal with. You did a great job and purchasing these were a smart investment. Hope you and Greg have a MERRY CHRISTMAS.
That is an honest day's work and living. Great job.
Some OGs putting in work on that concrete. Respect 💯
Nice mix of Concrete , Everything is going battery driven now. good video Kyle, Thanks.
My wife replaced me with her battery powered “boyfriend.”
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@@kevinhornbuckle🤣😂
Gas and plugin tools are becoming the thing of the past very quick. I used my battery snow blower last winter and it worked great without all the noise. Did my 80 feet driveway on 3/4 battery with 3 .5 inches of snow.
The fast-time video summary at the end was hilarious. Good video. Interesting to see an electric option.
milwaukee looks so cool，no cheap
That was a great match of chute to pour size and reach.
Good opportunity for Greg to learn a new process.
KYLE, I have to admit Milwaukee tools are pretty impressive..!!!! The battery technology is unmatched..And just the overall tool quality Stellar man….👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Battery’s don’t last though I’m going through them in 18 months warranty is good though
@@beartiger1553 What do those big ole batteries cost to replace? I’m guessing $2-3K. That’s what makes it not really an apples to apples comparison to me. Initial output is already 2X+, then if you’re buying new batteries every 18 months, that really strains the deal.
@@psidvicious I’m in Australia the batteries I run coast $218 each I’m not paying to replace them mine have come under warranty the last 2 I had replaced are nearly 20 months old
As a Green Bay Packers season ticket holder, I approve of the concrete guys hat! It’s definitely good to learn about the other trades!
Im not in the concrete business but man i could watch this all day
Wow what a machine or two to finish the floor Wonder what the outcome is at the end
4:54 Should have blue-taped that drain!
Thought the same thing
nice video. thank you buddy
I'm a vikings fan all I noticed is his packers hat throw it in the concreate lol, good job guys
This is what I used to do. Concrete basements. One of my first jobs.
We definitely didn't have that many people. It was me and 2 other guys.
Yeah, the Milwaukee M18 Fuel battery system charges fast! I have an M18 8AH battery and I can charge it from one bar in about 30 minutes! Milwaukee has the best battery system!
That "Kill Switch" will get you every time !!!
Now ya did it. Think you had people giving you too much "advice" before? Now you just unleashed the Concrete Guys! Lol, everyone of them are gonna have differing opinions on how you SHOULD'VE done it.
On the other hand, those power trowels are friggin Awesome!! Great work! Floor looks amazing!!
Bring on the advice! I love learning
Now that's a wide bull float, got to be strong to handle that one.
Kyle, you have probably sold more Milwaukee than their entire marketing department.
Hey man I make no money if someone buys a milwaukee. I just like some of their stuff and it helps me do a good job
Talking about people who have product influence brought to mind NORM ABRAM. He help to sell more Porter Cable biscuit joiners and cabinet saws than can be imagined.
@@RRBuildings I know. I respect that too. I'm 100% Milwaukee fanboy.
@@RRBuildings Don't they give you tools ? Yes ? Then you are getting compensation.
You make plenty off yt
Nice video ending
Yeah what’s up with that? No outro, no finished result, just fade to black? 😅
Brings back memories......
And one of those memories was a 2nd floor apartment floor - about 100 yards - late in day on a sub freezing night forecast in South East FL. Yeah - and that NEVER happens anymore. Slab should NOT have been poured. Additives used to accelerate the set, but the slab froze anyway. All you can do is get it flat as you can and come back and grind a finish later on.
In SE Florida back in my day the aggregate tended to float so you used a "juke" to smash the agg down into the slab. That was a workout. Then a "darby" to float the top - later on a bull float was used (better). Looks like your aggregate is "less floaty" rock thus no need to smash it down.
With the old school gas powered finishers you HAD to be experienced because you only influenced "steering" them. If you tried to muscle it the machine could, would. and did throw your ass off the slab - and if it was on an upper floor - well you can't fly ;-)
You should check European truck concrete pumps.
Brian seems like a cool dude
it's always interesting to watch how different ppl in the US do things compared to us in Europe. here, you're required to run a 1cm thick dilatation stripe along the side of the walls, where the poured concrete slab butts up against. you could argue that inside the house the temperature will mostly be constant, so there's no need for dilatation, however you started off the work in the video on an outside area, where I'm pretty sure dilatation could be an issue. I'm not saying this is wrong, but over here, you're used to seeing different methods / requirements / code.
When you say ' stipe'... Do you mean an expansion?
@@vitalsigns2679 (*typo, was meant to be stripe.) yeah, it's a foam material / roll which you tack to the wall
Expansion joint is typically used on most jobs like this in the US as well. Don’t know why they didn’t, on this one. It’s actually over-used in my opinion. You have to remember, concrete will never ever get larger than the day it is poured, in it’s plastic state, no matter what the temperature rise could get to. While curing it will contract from the edges and there will be a “crack” all the way around the edges, where it was poured against the wall. A cold joint is formed when new concrete is poured against older, smooth concrete.
In my area it's not typical, I think it should be used more outside as well as a thermal break but the general thought is because of the initial shrink and then the walls and floor should expand/contract slowly and similarly.
Well, it wasn't like Mike Day, but you got the job done.
Your right this was better than Mike Day
Wait! .... does THIS guy have a channel? I would have liked to see him pour the new foundation UNDER that old house. I hope he got it on film or whatever. VERY cool. 25 years ago I helped my brother a little as he lifted up his 100-year-old house and poured a new foundation under it, but I was only there a couple of days and didn't get to see the whole project. I poured a few sections under my 150 year old house... but it was nothing like this. Thanks for sharing this with us. I hope you learn what you want to know about concrete so maybe you can incorporate THAT service into your overall product as well. All I remember is that it is REALLY tough work.... and doing it every day would be quite a challenge.
Kyle, never seen you change the pads on the machine from float pads to finish. Must be finishing pads from the get go. It does look like a level pour.
would fun to run those batteries on the hand tools
Much respect to content creator. These new phones and equipment for videos have a lot to be desired because you simply can't hear them as well as before. I did enjoy the content, and volume changed around 4:30. 😊
Concrete waits for no man, but every man has to wait for concrete.
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Приятно смотреть слаженную работу
I’ve been watching your channel for about 3 yrs. I thought you were joking when you said you never read instruction material and maintenance is something you do after the tool breaks.
You weren’t joking. 🙃
Not a liar man. I only speak the truth.
Camera man did a good job
Doesn't do concrete work or finish but makes you believe he went out and bought these.
Its a Milwaukee advertising campaign
At first I thought no way because of the cost. Than when the Company owner said he wish he'd know of something like this 20 years ago. Because of the health issues of breathing in the exhaust in basements. And he is right you can't put a price on that.
Flatwork is a waiting job. Wait for your turn on the jobsite, wait for the concrete, wait to finish it, then wait for the check.
I've always referred to it as "Concrete Anxiety" ! All of the concerns, worries, all the way down to the timing of finishing.
No thermal break between the floor and the walls? The insulation beneath the concrete floor should have been extended up the walls the height (depth) of the concrete 4"?
At 10:26 TC there are gaps in the insulation and untapped seams that 'can' allow wet concrete to flow underneath the insulation floating it?
Gaps in the insulation will also ding you with thermal conductivity. The radiant heating is going to work much harder than it otherwise would have.
And no continuous vapor barrier 'over' the insulation with tapped seams? This was a lot of work that would have been excellent with a bit more effort.
@@PeterJ-pj3ip Problem is that no one is asking for those things, and if you do them, don't expect to be paid for it. What they are paid for is to get the concrete in there, and make it look good. That's what counts and what they are rated by. If it looks good, all is well.
Yes. But the owner has a responsibility to understand building science and advocate for themselves. The architect and engineer can as well. And it would have been a modest increase in the budget for materials and labor to make a world of difference in the performance of this system.
Get that damn chute out of the basement! I'd have lost my mind on you all. Tiny basement, 12 guys running around and a chute in the way. Wind that mixer up and pull that crete! (Edit: I should watch the whole video before commenting haha.)
Good thing you weren't there to offer your uneducated opinion
I know that feeling of I'm an idiot!
That power trowel is the way to go, especially in basements. I've almost killed half my brain cells running a gas one in basements. That's the cat's meow!
They make battery powered screeds as well.
Nice to see a Packer fan
I never ever liked pouring and finishing concrete I don't mind framing it out I've done everything in construction and loved all of it most of the time. I'm always amazed that the shoe prints never show it would worry me to death I had one concrete contractor and he and his guys did all my work nice advertisement for the equipment and to have a guy that looks like he's been doing it for fifty years with his approval
It's all good Kyle. And for the record, you are NOT dumb.
Like...what was that mix? Never seen concrete so smooth after 1 pull. Man
Either lots of water or it had a water reducer (plasticizer) additive added to it. Looked like a 7+ slump.
Plasticizer
Milwaukee is going to make a friggin car next lol
When will they make the one that the finisher rides on?😊
Worked on big tilt-ups that had them.
Gonna need a Tesla battery for ride-ons.
I can't believe you did not pump the concrete
what was the outdoor temp & concrete being poured temperature? Kudos on getting the steady camera footage
Is there any reason you guys don't use concrete pumping trucks?
Cost
watch how aunt tia tricks daddy into getting what she wants ace
Did they ise water reducer and fiber on that one?
I keep the manuals for a year or two then I use the crappy paper to start fires in my burn pit. Its really just an oldctruck wheel.
I keep them in a book, in case someone else acquired them from me or inherits.
Seems like the next tool you need is a drone, you wouldn’t have to wait outside!
It's a centrifugal safety switch. It's supposed to kill the machine if it gets away from you
Hi Kyle,
Appreciate all your efforts in improving the building community. We have a building project we are contracting for - our local lumberyard expansion; Three Oaks MI. We are going to include hands on training opportunities at various points in the project for local contractors. We would love to have you teach setting the 66’ trusses on this project. Please let us know if you would like to be a part of this.
reach out to me at kstumpenhorst@gmail.com
How long did the batts last? how long did they take to charge? Don't leave us hanging.
I thought he said a battery was rated for 30 minutes. The trowel came with 3 and the charger.
@@psidvicious Yes that is right but how long did it last in real life under cold and under the stress of the job.
@@billthompson9482 Yea, agreed. Conventional power trowels will last as long as you keep them filled up with gas and oil.
how long from smooth till they can crawl on the new concrete?
I'd be curious to see how long the battery overall capacity lasts. The faster a battery charges, the faster the overall capacity degrades. Sure, seeing how long the batteries last on the jobsite when they are brand new is important, but I'm more curious how they are doing a year from now after being used, abused, and quick-charged 5 or 6 days a week.
One guy was saying he was replacing them every 18 months. So probably at about 12 there’s a noticeable drop off in longevity.
Hey, watch the video very impressed. It would help if you did turn the button on to start that’s a no-brainer but with that being said, they seem to be a whole lot lighter than the Gas version and the battery life is amazing and the best part is like the old man said at the end of the day in an application like this, where you’re not exposed to the atmosphere there’s no fumes and you can run them all day long and you’re not gonna die of CO2 poisoning which is a big deal. Are they expensive? Yeah hopefully they’ll come down but the R&D and like you said the batteries, the batteries is the biggest chunk of that money.
Not related to this video, but do you ever use laser tape measures for layout? Have you found they are accurate?
Greg really dropped the ball in this one! Time to punish him!!!
Hey Dude
Did you buy those walk behind concrete polishers or are they loaned to you for free to make these You Tube videos?
It's not the manly thing to do, to read the operator's manual. Great video
And that’s why you read the manual!
19:25
😂😂😂
Concrete truck driver looking like one of yall cut him off in traffic and hes thinking about just hitting the switch and emptying the whole truck in your basement bunk it
25:00 milk it baby. It happened to every professional one way or another.
Why are there tires up on the back of the concrete truck? Thank you.
if they are going on a lighter weight road with a full load or need more float on a crappy site they can put those down and take more weight
Nice camera work, and most importantly editing. I know editing can be very time-consuming. So my appreciation.
That high pitched whine and double the price is a deal breaker for me
CANcrete!!
Hello Quad Cities
These men aren't playing around.
And they aren’t even Mexican!
ill keep a eye on him tray y u are gone sweetie... take care now...
that jr keeps ordering up stuff on my credit cards, week or 2 ill have him seeing stars
Did anyone pull that wire up when you were pouring? Reinforcement doesn't help sitting at the bottom of a pour...
Because you weren't there to give your uneducated perks of wisdom
$13,000 😮
That is not what he said...... Watch the video again and this time LISTEN
were at the swap meat
A LITTLE CALCIUM AND TIME AND YOU CAN POUR CONCRETE ALL WINTER … 😉
If you have to have a no fumes/exhaust environment, ok but otherwise - $7500 vs $3500 and I bet the batteries are at least $2-3K to replace, it doesn’t seem like an apples to apples comparison for me. Quieter is nice but the price is still prohibitive.
😁👍🏼😁👍🏼
Why didn't you use a vapor barrier
Not necessary
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I believe that is a TH-cam issue and it is simply time - takes a bit after posting.
First 🎉
Don't like the noise they make, but easy to rectify with some tunes on the headphones.
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If you aren’t learning you’re dying. I need to build my own home soon… gotta learn how to do it all well
You guys were just too excited to use the new tool and over looked the safety switch
all trowel machine have a anti swing safety switch on them , incase you loose yr grip on the handle bar the machine would be spinning like a helicopter for hours till it ran out of fuel ,,, it is a centrifugal inertia switch ,, been on them for a 100 years lol lol ,,,,
Or just hand trowel the finish 😂
In some applications the battery operated equipment is to expensive. However in certain situations where fumes from a gas engine can create a problem with workers in tight or enclosed areas it is better to have battery operated equipment.
Y'all gona be sore tomorrow for sure.
my shipping dept have this place back up and running in 2 or 3 hrs easily