no lie i love making music with someone who has no idea what they're doing just to see their eyes open up with joy when they add something and hear it back.
seriously! I don't like to make fun of people for it, because, like, asking people to do it for you at first is actually a good way to learn, cuz then you see how it builds up in more detail. and honestly non-musician darius seems to have reasonable suggestions, many people I have done this with are like "uhhh? I have no idea what parts songs have besides singing and piano?" even if they're pretty good at playing music a lot of people just don't think about it in terms of actually getting stuff done making a song!
Exactly! It’s all about energy exchange, if they are excited it makes you excited too, regardless of how knowledgeable they are, but if the energy is off it just feels like.. work.
@Red Cyndaquil Freakin love Lenarr btw bro recently started watchin his channel and it's such good content! Before I had only seen him in calebcity skits and stuff like that expensive water video
@@ko-chanTHEBULLY Lenarr is funny, but I feel bad for him sometimes. So many dumb self-promoters in his comments goin', "i MaKe coNtEnt sImiLar to LeNarr, sO pLeaSe chEck me out!"
I’m the musician friend that’s thinking “What the Hell Bro!! Just ask me to make you a beat or pick from my hundreds of unfinished ones in my library” lol
"do the thing with the mixing computer shit you do bro" or i hate when they say " Make it sound like [Grammy winning Engineer]" like bro who do you think i am ? 😂😂😂
the experiences i made with "non musicians" was like 200% the opposite.. ofc they may not know how the programs work, but they where so much more "pure" with melodies regarding to emotion, while over the years my creativity changed more to a "this is how i do it cause this is how it's done" instead of just "feeling" it like i did back in the days. they just don't overthink or overcomplicate, they just feel.. and that's lovely
With non-musicians you can tell when someone has a good ear for something. When you've done the same process, seen the magic a million times, constantly learn new things, it's not as mystical or sacred anymore lol. You can kind of forget how powerful something can be to someone else's ears. It's important to go back and relive that "feeling" approach to creativity every now and then.
Yeah I'm barely starting off and I've just been watching random music related videos and seeing people recreate songs to understand how they make the emotion they are going for and to see how people construct their drum patterns cause I'm just in it for fun
Ironically, this is a VERY great "basics" video for non-musicians on the very basics of the steps to the beat-making process, as well as relevant terminology. I love this.
The irony of this situation is when you're at this level of production capability, when someone says 'let's do something together,' it's easier to have them go to Subway and get you a meatball sandwich while you compose the song, than to have them actually 'help'. This skit is spot on.
@@wokeil yeah, fun, until they go from feeling included to feeling entitled to the whole music that basically you produced, and want you to be the guy in the back for gigs he/she is gonna front for
This could be a metaphor for working with yourself as a creative, even if you know stuff. It's all about starting with a blank canvas, then all you need is one simple idea to start the whole thing, but that simple idea could come from "someone who doesn't know music".
Honestly it's pretty fun to ask non-musician friends to describe sounds in non-musical terms and to try to make a song out of it. 'Hard hitting drums, add an angry electric sounding synth, maybe add some sparkles, make it sound like a storm at night..' -and then try and make that! It makes for fun music making with (non-musical) friends
@@cornela1 For fun, maybe that would be nice. But not in a more serious project. It's a nightmare working with someone who doesn't/can't describe what they want unless paid which doesn't reduce the difficulty but at least makes it worth it.
So hear me out: It begins just like Harry Potter, but there's Zombies. Lots of 'em. And vampires too, vampires sell well nowadays. And people fight the zombies with vampire magic.
I am the dude that has a lot of ideas for stuff I’ve never dabbled in. I guess the only difference is that I always attempt it as well lol I’ve had so many book ideas in my life, and I’ve always wanted to write a book. So I’ll probably write a god awful book and then do nothing with it like I did with my TH-cam channel full of garbage music I dabbled with and the super buggy games I developed when I dabbled in programming lol my life just consists of half passionate hobbies. But my ideas are fire lol if I had a friend with talent that I could just feed my ideas to, we would ACTUALLY be a good team lol
Would any of you like to be linked my actual start of my short story from my Google slides? It was supposed to be a joint project with a friend, and after 4 pages they flaked out saying they're scared to mess it up. I'm looking for legit judges/people to maybe view it and share their opinions. If so reply and I'll Google a copy to you from my business email. Please consider. Like if it's worth touching cuz I've been uninspired to continue it.
This is hands down, every single time. Then for the next three months they'll tell you they wanna get into it, then never install a DAW or write anything.
I got a friend who always wants to hang out to learn to make music. He brings his laptop around, fires up FL Studio and sits there looking at it for a bit, doesn't ask any questions, doesn't do anything, then closes it and plays a game instead and later goes "next time I'll really learn it" Short of me giving him personal lessons, I don't think he'll ever try to learn it. Not even watch a tutorial.
@Supper i dont think thats what op was getting at, hes just saying people tend to talk without any intention of actually acting on it. We do all do it in some capacity tho
The non musician was more knowledgeable than most. He actually knew what a" key" is! In my experience many don't know the difference between a bass or a guitar and have no concept of key or key changes but still think they want to make music!
That was fun to watch. Honestly, I can't get enough people to share my enthusiasm for making music. I even try to lend people ukuleles, drum machines, and samplers just to get them to TRY to make something and have fun.
Seriously, people get all embarassed and shit and it's like, what do you think I do in here all day? Fuckin around, making mistakes, playing stuff that doesn't sound good until I play something that does. It's all part of the process but people are so fixated on the perfect robot music they listen to all the time that they can't bear to be a little out of time or out of tune here and there. Those mistakes are what transform music from this abstract, mathematical ideal on the page into a real, human performance.
Reminds me of a band I was in. Guitarist came in with 2 chords, after we'd added words, vocals, backing vocals, drums, lead guitar melodies, structure and later kicked him out the band:- said he wouldn't allow us to play "his song" anymore.
As a musician in all fairness to him. He did the foundation of the song, which is the initial creative spark. You wouldn't have come up with the vocals or any of the other stuff if he hadn't layed down this foundation. So he rightfully owns at least 25% of the song. There is a rule of thumb when you are registering your songs. If you wrote the Chords and the melody (the vocals), 50% of the songwriting credits goes to you. Who wrote the drums is completely irrelevant and only a tiny bit of the credit goes to the back vocals because that is part of the arrangement, unless the back vocals are an independent melody instead of just voicing the lead melody. The only reason a drummer gets royalties for a song and even bassist is because bands make a contract between themselfs where they decide to split it evenly or in some other way....So yeah, if this song would be released and have success and then become a hit, he could sue you for not giving him a cut, If he has the initial recording of those chords or somekind of evidence that he wrote the foundation of the song.
He is still part owner of the composition, so if he really wanted to be petty, you're probably shit out of luck if he can prove that it started with that.
patrickguyum yeah reluctantly that's what we thought at the time and stopped playing the song in question. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. On the plus side his 25% of zero royalties is still fuck all. Maybe he should have let us play the song.
My experience is almost the opposite, wherein they keep disagreeing with me, “no, that’s not it, try something else”. Eventually they’ll sing off key and expect that to make something musical, or they’ll just use vague descriptive language they really leads nowhere. After al that, you end up putting some stock pop cliche music idea in there and then they’re happy cuz now it sounds like it could be on the radio Then later you’ll play the same thing and they’ll accuse you of changing it, like they got attached to something they didn’t write and are mad at you for playing something you came up with in a way they don’t remember. Then they’ll act like some kinda artists by saying “I don’t know, it just doesn’t sound the same anymore in that context”. I am not jaded or anything… That is why I pretty much don’t mess around with non musicians. It was kinda cool at first, but I just ended feeling device made for attempting to derive musical ideas into music that gets berated when they don’t like the results
Same experience here. Guys got a million changes to make but knows absolutely nothing about the DAW or music. Wants to be a rapper but does dick-all for work.
Haha I've been in this exact scenario more than once. The irony is that at the end, you have a cool track that you wouldn't have ever actually come up with on your own.
I had a friend like this, except he got mad at me for not finishing songs when he wanted them done. Keep in mind he never paid me, AND had me write his lyrics and design his covers. Safe to say, we’re not friends anymore.
@@PtylerBeats To be fair, it was a bit of my fault that it happened. I am very sensitive to criticism of my music, so when I get praise, it's just overwhelmingly gratifying. He would compliment the shit out of my work, but I guess that was him just trying to get something out of me
Ayo! The beat was on point, loved how u put it all together . Honestly the second beat u added I was thinking of that…. No lying. U should do an entire instrumental with that beat.
Man! When you "read his book" at 01:30 it brought back memories of times working with "artists" who had no musical sense of articulating effectively what they want. Then they wanted to take credit for the work done by me... LOL! Good skit bro!!!!
This video is exactly why I’m trying to learn how to read music and play an instrument other than drums. Cause I know that I don’t want to be that one person all the time who kinda has an idea but needs someone else to put it together. I have been that person, but trying not to be.
Your best bet would be to learn piano. I play other instruments way better than I do piano, but when it comes to composing, I always go back to the piano, and not my native instrument.
@@Jackson-ol5xt that’s how I started out learning piano. I played the trumpet since the age of 5 but around age 15 I wanted to compose and use music software. I immediately jumped to the piano.
It goes both ways tbh. Just knowing a bunch of chords and licks, without rhythm, can make a potentially awesome piano solo mediocre. Drummers already got that rhythm down. I’m a pianist and ive tried thinking like a drummer, rhythmically. But man, I just dont have a good sense of ghost notes and syncopation, like I logically get it but when I do it, it just doesnt sound right.
@@woah3108 I absolutely cannot do two different things at once haha. I could not get the hang of drums. But I got my theory down packed. When I first started, before I knew any theory, I had no ear for rhythm but a good ear for harmony. But I've slowly gotten a lot better at piano since then. The cool thing about making music is that everyone comes from different backgrounds so they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Some people understand technology, recording and mixing better and some understand theory, arrangement, and composing. Others understand how to play an instrument or use their voice well. Some have good ears, some think in a different direction as others. Some are charismatic, sociable, or have other skills useful in music.
This shit right here, I deal with customer like this at work. They come in not knowing what they want or how to get it and in my job that won’t cut it. It’s mad annoying this vid is too accurate…
I actually think it’s good to work this way with people who don’t have the highest musical skill level, and vice versa. I’m a pretty accomplished musician but as of now I’m not great at reading music (I want to be), and sometimes I’ve been that friend who doesn’t know how to produce anything and sometimes I’ve been the friend producing. It’s all about learning and at the end of the day, this track sounds good on this video! It can be super annoying when someone who doesn’t understand how much work goes into making music just expects too much from you, and that can be when it gets exhausting. It’s a fine balance, and I prefer working with people who are on a certain level that I hold in a serious regard, whatever that may be. It seems to make a huge difference
"Like right out of my brain..." Gave me a good chuckle! Naturally the non-musician will expect full songwriting credit for the song. They always do, no matter how little they actually contributed to the making of the track.
Hahahahaha... this is sooo spot on!! I don't know if I should laugh or cry, because that was pretty much the case in half of my music encounters (even in professional bands with studied musicians). Great job, man! Only thing missing: THEY want to put THEIR name first when it comes to credits ;-)
@@DreErdna I've watched some TH-cam videos and spent years dabbling with Audacity. Even took a Sound Design course, but I'm only at the level where I can do a basic cleaning and sound mixing. Some people have the skills. I am not one of them.
@@DreErdna True. I'd probably get better if I took more time to practice and stayed consistent. Perhaps it's time I actually upload something I've made to see if it's any good.
this made me cry... out of my ignorance (exactly like the non-musician dude in the video) and out of the quality of the song. you're a hero Darius... a hero.
The worst is when the producer thinks he's making some fire ish when his friends gas him up and it sounds like the barney i love you song with trap cymbals SMH 😂😂😂😂😂🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha ha! I love it!! So many people making “music” out there today (and there are a LOT of them) think just because they can click and drag pre-made loops around on a computer they are “musicians.” You gotta earn that label. You have to pay your dues practicing an instrument for years, gain some cred and learn some theory or read music notation AND have more than just some ability to use a mouse. No one gets to call themselves a “musician” without some bona fide skill. You don’t get to call yourself a “doctor” or a “chef” or a “pilot” without putting in the work, the years and the effort to earn those titles legitimately. Music is no different. Great video!!
As a lofi/jazz hip hop music producer, I’ve taken music classes long ago but I barely understand theory so I make music by ear. But when working with someone who doesn’t know how to actually make music at all, it’s kinda hard to work with them after a while lol.
Honestly having someone that doesn’t know a thing about music but can convey vague ideas helps me be more creative. I mean this skit is not a good example but some constructive ideas are always helpful
I always ask non-artists for their feedback on my art whether that’s music or paintings or writing… because they view it very differently and art is a funny thing that is made by artists for the enjoyment of non-artists. So whether they know it or not, consumers have a really good ear for what they like. But we pretend that non-artists have no idea what they’re talking about. And in a way, they don’t, but they know what they FEEL. And if a friend, who knows nothing about music, just feels like something looks/sounds weird, then I trust that reaction. Because, ultimately, that reaction is the same feeling that causes millions of people to purchase Drake albums or read a Harry Potter book. They may not be able to describe what they like about something, but they can certainly describe how they feel about something.
You forgot the part where he says “no man, that’s not it! In my head it’s sounds more turquoise. But maybe with just a hint of orange around the edges. You know what I mean?” No man, I don’t know what you mean. I play guitar. I don’t read minds!
As someone who does that exact thing and know others that do it to me, I sympathize with you but also understand the color analogies. Talking about music is strange
Ooh, I’m an author and I feel this so hard. Oh, I have a story in mind but don’t have time to do it, but you could. We could collaborate or something. Or, I want to write a memoir, can you help me, or even write it, because it’ll sound better coming from you. My placid grin, rapid blinking, and heavy sigh have become legendary.
Hey, don’t feel bad, i used to be just the idea guy but now i produce, and i play drums, bass and guitar, just gotta hustle and put that practice in. I think learning how to make beats gave me the introductory music theory that i needed to transfer over to playing live music and i suggest everybody who wants to make music takes a little gander at the software side
I like a midway between those 2 people, I can tell you what style and what instruments I hear going but when it comes to notes, I usually have like 1 idea of a pattern with drums, but then the rest I got no idea for especially when adding effects, I know how and most of the time which effect I want but its usually flat out guessing on the knobs until I hear what I want, other than that its usually me saying we need something make the beat more interesting, missing something in the beat, or some part needs to be lowered or raised
You know how many times women wasted my time and hurt my feelings cause they made me feel so used 😭 it's okay to engage and learn but you gotta be respectful and mindful. Music isn't a tool for musicians to be social particularly. It's a very intimate part of their lives and enjoy to share it not just give it away
It's less annoying if you actually have clear ideas - e.g. can you hum a tune you thought of? If we tried out three different chord progressions, could you choose the one you like? Can you beat out what you envisioned the drums doing on a table? Can you be really descriptive about the "story" or ideas you had? Even like "Hey, so it has this little bit that repeats, and then after a while this higher tune starts... nah, kind of a more... string sound? Yeah, cool. And it goes a bit like this but I'm not sure what to do next...Great. Then the bass line kicks in... it kind of goes up and down, a bit like walking up and down stairs... this kind of rhythm? Nah, maybe change like the third note? Yeah, that works now. Cool, and the drums start at the same time... Then there's like a fall off, and we add some white noise.... hmmmm not quite right. Rain sounds?" See? Already, you have a clearer idea.
@@juliemichellerobinson1841 Yea I can actually answer yes to all of those questions, I just don’t understand the technical part of putting it all together. I’m more of a drawer/painter (and can sing) and I’ve always dreamed of combining all these things together but I recognize I cannot do it all on my own
@@Euphoryaaa Having clear ideas and being able to explain them is the key to good studio time. This video is kinda making fun of how this dude just hummed a melody and the studio worker pretty much made the rest of it himself from there. If you are at least trying to help give them your ideas, you'll have your own great song. Maybe invest in a little MIDI keyboard and get a cheap DAW like Reaper, find some free MIDI instrument packs online and just start messing around with it. While it definitely helps to have prior understanding of music theory and some music background, that won't keep you from making great tracks if you make something you like. And then youll be able to understand the studio process better in case you do end up working with a music producer.
"I got this great melody in my head, it would be a hit" "Ok, can you hum it for me" *hums an arpeggiated minor chord* "Well, that's... really basic... could become a hit though"
This is me and my brother every time. I notice with a lot of people who play guitar, dont actually play guitar. They know a few songs and chords from those songs, not much about freestyle or finding their own sound. It's a blast 😅
I am absolutely the clueless friend lmfao i wish i knew where to start in regards to music knowledge since i have no instruments🤣 i do usually have good ideas in my head i wont lie
Start with a small piano keyboard or MIDI Controller connected to a daw. Then learn some music theory basics. You don't have to be good a piano either. Just enough to put a musical idea down.
@@Hakeemthedr3am no problem I'm just starting as well. And I find that having a keyboard helps because you're not necessarily worried about wether or not you can actually make a sound come out of the instrument. (For example with a guitar or trumpet or whatever) you simply press a key and the instrument does the rest. The music theory might not help until later on but if you have a good ear you'll hear what sounds good.
bro, you don’t even need to learn an instrument at all. people who use midi keyboards or instruments to produce usually already know how to play it, so they use it to produce. but you don’t even need to know how to play anything in order to produce. just learn how to use a daw, and learn music theory. unless of course you want to learn an instrument, then by all means go ahead. you also said you have good ideas in your head, i would just jump straight into the daw and try to make something. if you already have ideas, don’t let them die out. i myself skipped learning an instrument, and i still don’t know how to read musical notation, and i’m doing just fine.
Yo I'm early 🎶 Edit: This was me using FL Studio. I could never for the life of me explain what kind of song I wanted to make unless I figured it out for myself.
Bruh, how did I end up beatboxing almost the exact bass line and same drum right before he started playing them? Like, when they had that discussion of what else to add, I was just vibing to something I would add to those first two parts, and then he played it. The difference was the bassline I thought of had a little more to it, and the drum was a bit simpler on the kick.
Yeah, we internalize some patterns bc of the music we listen to as a society. It's a cultural thing, so it's not surprising that plenty of songs sound similar. The more you listen, the more you learn and your mind absorbs that, so that's why it's important to listen to different types of music if you wanna produce diverse songs
Dawg I remember when my nephew wanted to help me make a song and he did like one chord. I added more chords to make it a progression and made the melody with it since dude wouldn't communicate with me at all. Eventually I finished the song, and when I was done he said "wow we made this song sound so good"
I was really expecting it to turn out to be one of the existing songs with exact melody, exact chords and exact sound patches. And at the end him going "Yeah this already exists"
That's gotta' be a confidence thing. Dude could probably sing the full idea he's thinking of if he took his time to structure it a little in his head and sing one layer at a time, chord roots/bassline, "slow drums for this part then it picks up", turns out being a verse/hook whatever. Asking the musician/producer to do it is like, not willing to jump in and try, and hoping the musician can just understand exactly what they hand in mind, not really realising how many infinite ways you can go with one simple ass motif. We all got the music, just need the faith/courage and I guess willingness/discipline/strength to push through and execute, get those ideas out there. You don't need the key or any theory/language to sing it, "like this", we are the language yo. (I know this is one guy lol, but it's an interesting point, cool observation)
no lie i love making music with someone who has no idea what they're doing just to see their eyes open up with joy when they add something and hear it back.
seriously! I don't like to make fun of people for it, because, like, asking people to do it for you at first is actually a good way to learn, cuz then you see how it builds up in more detail. and honestly non-musician darius seems to have reasonable suggestions, many people I have done this with are like "uhhh? I have no idea what parts songs have besides singing and piano?" even if they're pretty good at playing music a lot of people just don't think about it in terms of actually getting stuff done making a song!
I love that you truly enjoy watching a non-musician’s reaction to the skills you provide them with. You love what you do!!
Same!! I love making music with people! They don't think like producers so it gives a different vision!
Exactly! It’s all about energy exchange, if they are excited it makes you excited too, regardless of how knowledgeable they are, but if the energy is off it just feels like.. work.
There is something laughable but also beautiful about playing a C major chord and seeing someone be impressed
Dude’s voice is so soft and calm, I could honestly just listen to him talk for hours
ASMR lookin boy.
@@dominiccampbell181 😆
@@dominiccampbell181 you beat me to it!! 🤣
Ur name is... interesting
I wish I could talk as softly as that, my natural speaking voice is just really loud, probably has something to do with singing Opera
I think that Darius has many alter egos living in his house. Must be nice.
yeah if you're into that kind of thing
PLOT TWIST DARIUS IS A TWIN AND HES HIDDEN IT ALL OF THIS TIME
I believe so too. How he casually talks to himself (empty seat) makes me think there's twins or triplets at most. 🤔
@Red Cyndaquil Freakin love Lenarr btw bro recently started watchin his channel and it's such good content! Before I had only seen him in calebcity skits and stuff like that expensive water video
@@ko-chanTHEBULLY Lenarr is funny, but I feel bad for him sometimes. So many dumb self-promoters in his comments goin', "i MaKe coNtEnt sImiLar to LeNarr, sO pLeaSe chEck me out!"
As someone who pretty often writes music I can confirm this is 100% accurate
@Jon Esser so you’re a rapper? sick, find a producer and get to work💪🏾
I’m the musician friend that’s thinking “What the Hell Bro!! Just ask me to make you a beat or pick from my hundreds of unfinished ones in my library” lol
Heavy relate
I concur.
being an asshole to a vocalist, who hasn’t learned the production terminology wont get yall anywhere
The fact that he knows what sequencers and compressors are makes him alright, usually people just say “do the buttons and the keys” 🙃
Heh
"Idk man just do the thing you know it better just reverb the filter or whatever"
@@cody42693 exactly bro
"do the thing with the mixing computer shit you do bro" or i hate when they say " Make it sound like [Grammy winning Engineer]" like bro who do you think i am ? 😂😂😂
@@BabyWavv "bro make me skrillex" *chooses a single saw wave form after you sit him down in front of a VST*
the experiences i made with "non musicians" was like 200% the opposite.. ofc they may not know how the programs work,
but they where so much more "pure" with melodies regarding to emotion, while over the years my creativity changed more to a "this is how i do it cause this is how it's done" instead of just "feeling" it like i did back in the days.
they just don't overthink or overcomplicate, they just feel.. and that's lovely
With non-musicians you can tell when someone has a good ear for something. When you've done the same process, seen the magic a million times, constantly learn new things, it's not as mystical or sacred anymore lol. You can kind of forget how powerful something can be to someone else's ears.
It's important to go back and relive that "feeling" approach to creativity every now and then.
Yeah I'm barely starting off and I've just been watching random music related videos and seeing people recreate songs to understand how they make the emotion they are going for and to see how people construct their drum patterns cause I'm just in it for fun
word up
That’s why drugs mix well with making music
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Ironically, this is a VERY great "basics" video for non-musicians on the very basics of the steps to the beat-making process, as well as relevant terminology. I love this.
Indeed
The irony of this situation is when you're at this level of production capability, when someone says 'let's do something together,' it's easier to have them go to Subway and get you a meatball sandwich while you compose the song, than to have them actually 'help'. This skit is spot on.
Lmfao 🤣 truth!!
Lmfao I knoow but its fun to help them feel included
@@wokeil yeah, fun, until they go from feeling included to feeling entitled to the whole music that basically you produced, and want you to be the guy in the back for gigs he/she is gonna front for
@@ShayerSUtsho Oddly specific 😭
@@ShayerSUtsho Yeah depends on the music. in hip hop that happens a lot
This could be a metaphor for working with yourself as a creative, even if you know stuff. It's all about starting with a blank canvas, then all you need is one simple idea to start the whole thing, but that simple idea could come from "someone who doesn't know music".
Honestly it's pretty fun to ask non-musician friends to describe sounds in non-musical terms and to try to make a song out of it.
'Hard hitting drums, add an angry electric sounding synth, maybe add some sparkles, make it sound like a storm at night..' -and then try and make that! It makes for fun music making with (non-musical) friends
agreed
bro sumn about that last line was so hard to me goddamn
@@cornela1 For fun, maybe that would be nice. But not in a more serious project. It's a nightmare working with someone who doesn't/can't describe what they want unless paid which doesn't reduce the difficulty but at least makes it worth it.
u reachin
this man lowkey gave y'all a lesson and creative perspective into songwriting on a skit.
I actually saved this video as a composition basics tutorial with literature notes for my music learning stack, lol.
this how rappers be in the studio, and then in interviews be like "yeah i produce my own shit"
That was sick man actually learned a lot
Can I ride your coal train daddy
A Love Supreme is a work of divinity up there with DSOTM by Pink Floyd
Same when a non-writer meets a writer: 'Dude, I've got the greatest idea for a book. All you got to do is write it down.'
So hear me out: It begins just like Harry Potter, but there's Zombies. Lots of 'em. And vampires too, vampires sell well nowadays. And people fight the zombies with vampire magic.
I am the dude that has a lot of ideas for stuff I’ve never dabbled in. I guess the only difference is that I always attempt it as well lol I’ve had so many book ideas in my life, and I’ve always wanted to write a book. So I’ll probably write a god awful book and then do nothing with it like I did with my TH-cam channel full of garbage music I dabbled with and the super buggy games I developed when I dabbled in programming lol my life just consists of half passionate hobbies. But my ideas are fire lol if I had a friend with talent that I could just feed my ideas to, we would ACTUALLY be a good team lol
Would any of you like to be linked my actual start of my short story from my Google slides? It was supposed to be a joint project with a friend, and after 4 pages they flaked out saying they're scared to mess it up. I'm looking for legit judges/people to maybe view it and share their opinions. If so reply and I'll Google a copy to you from my business email. Please consider. Like if it's worth touching cuz I've been uninspired to continue it.
Bruh….😭😭😭 I’m glad I’m not the only one
This is hands down, every single time. Then for the next three months they'll tell you they wanna get into it, then never install a DAW or write anything.
Or they quit after a few weeks. I've seen that outcome a couple times.
I got a friend who always wants to hang out to learn to make music. He brings his laptop around, fires up FL Studio and sits there looking at it for a bit, doesn't ask any questions, doesn't do anything, then closes it and plays a game instead and later goes "next time I'll really learn it"
Short of me giving him personal lessons, I don't think he'll ever try to learn it. Not even watch a tutorial.
@Supper i dont think thats what op was getting at, hes just saying people tend to talk without any intention of actually acting on it. We do all do it in some capacity tho
The non musician was more knowledgeable than most. He actually knew what a" key" is! In my experience many don't know the difference between a bass or a guitar and have no concept of key or key changes but still think they want to make music!
That was fun to watch. Honestly, I can't get enough people to share my enthusiasm for making music. I even try to lend people ukuleles, drum machines, and samplers just to get them to TRY to make something and have fun.
Seriously, people get all embarassed and shit and it's like, what do you think I do in here all day? Fuckin around, making mistakes, playing stuff that doesn't sound good until I play something that does. It's all part of the process but people are so fixated on the perfect robot music they listen to all the time that they can't bear to be a little out of time or out of tune here and there. Those mistakes are what transform music from this abstract, mathematical ideal on the page into a real, human performance.
All I can do is Laugh my boy ... 😂😂😂 But sometimes these session stretches you in ways with fresh eyes LOL.
Darius DAMNson back again with the awesome content, I do see the potential in him to open up a recording company with how musically-talented he is
Too true!
"I'm not a 'skills' guy, but I have IDEAS!" The proceeds to show he has no ideas OR skills.
Reminds me of a band I was in. Guitarist came in with 2 chords, after we'd added words, vocals, backing vocals, drums, lead guitar melodies, structure and later kicked him out the band:- said he wouldn't allow us to play "his song" anymore.
pop a 7th on one of the chords and tell them it's a different song
As a musician in all fairness to him. He did the foundation of the song, which is the initial creative spark. You wouldn't have come up with the vocals or any of the other stuff if he hadn't layed down this foundation. So he rightfully owns at least 25% of the song.
There is a rule of thumb when you are registering your songs. If you wrote the Chords and the melody (the vocals), 50% of the songwriting credits goes to you. Who wrote the drums is completely irrelevant and only a tiny bit of the credit goes to the back vocals because that is part of the arrangement, unless the back vocals are an independent melody instead of just voicing the lead melody. The only reason a drummer gets royalties for a song and even bassist is because bands make a contract between themselfs where they decide to split it evenly or in some other way....So yeah, if this song would be released and have success and then become a hit, he could sue you for not giving him a cut, If he has the initial recording of those chords or somekind of evidence that he wrote the foundation of the song.
He is still part owner of the composition, so if he really wanted to be petty, you're probably shit out of luck if he can prove that it started with that.
patrickguyum yeah reluctantly that's what we thought at the time and stopped playing the song in question. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. On the plus side his 25% of zero royalties is still fuck all. Maybe he should have let us play the song.
The song actually does sound like video game music. Pretty chill. The PS2 Star Wars Battlefront II tho
I feel more N64 donkey Kong country vibe
sounds like a chill loading screen
I love this glorious musical flex!
My experience is almost the opposite, wherein they keep disagreeing with me, “no, that’s not it, try something else”. Eventually they’ll sing off key and expect that to make something musical, or they’ll just use vague descriptive language they really leads nowhere. After al that, you end up putting some stock pop cliche music idea in there and then they’re happy cuz now it sounds like it could be on the radio
Then later you’ll play the same thing and they’ll accuse you of changing it, like they got attached to something they didn’t write and are mad at you for playing something you came up with in a way they don’t remember. Then they’ll act like some kinda artists by saying “I don’t know, it just doesn’t sound the same anymore in that context”. I am not jaded or anything…
That is why I pretty much don’t mess around with non musicians. It was kinda cool at first, but I just ended feeling device made for attempting to derive musical ideas into music that gets berated when they don’t like the results
Same experience here. Guys got a million changes to make but knows absolutely nothing about the DAW or music. Wants to be a rapper but does dick-all for work.
Basically every start up for a new song
Haha I've been in this exact scenario more than once. The irony is that at the end, you have a cool track that you wouldn't have ever actually come up with on your own.
I had a friend like this, except he got mad at me for not finishing songs when he wanted them done. Keep in mind he never paid me, AND had me write his lyrics and design his covers. Safe to say, we’re not friends anymore.
I got news for you... That dude was NEVER your friend- he just saw you as a dozier he could use as a workhorse. The world is full of people like this.
Jesus, how self centered could someone be?
@@PtylerBeats To be fair, it was a bit of my fault that it happened. I am very sensitive to criticism of my music, so when I get praise, it's just overwhelmingly gratifying. He would compliment the shit out of my work, but I guess that was him just trying to get something out of me
I love that TH-cam recommended this 😭 I really enjoyed this and am going to look at your other content.
Ayo! The beat was on point, loved how u put it all together . Honestly the second beat u added I was thinking of that…. No lying. U should do an entire instrumental with that beat.
Yea I’m sure u were
@@truegame142 lol
I just liked the hell out of this and you got my subscribe.
This is so real. Working with non musicians is a skill set on its own
Where can we find the beats he makes in his videos. I love them and would like to code to them. Imagine a 30 min loop of this for working... Paradise
No lie, content was great and wholesome! 10/10 💫
Man! When you "read his book" at 01:30 it brought back memories of times working with "artists" who had no musical sense of articulating effectively what they want. Then they wanted to take credit for the work done by me... LOL! Good skit bro!!!!
i love your videos. especially the comedic ones
At first I thought he was gonna sing Saria’s song from Zelda and I was like, you didn’t even invent a melody! 😂
This video is exactly why I’m trying to learn how to read music and play an instrument other than drums. Cause I know that I don’t want to be that one person all the time who kinda has an idea but needs someone else to put it together. I have been that person, but trying not to be.
Your best bet would be to learn piano. I play other instruments way better than I do piano, but when it comes to composing, I always go back to the piano, and not my native instrument.
I wish you luck in your endeavours.
@@Jackson-ol5xt that’s how I started out learning piano. I played the trumpet since the age of 5 but around age 15 I wanted to compose and use music software. I immediately jumped to the piano.
It goes both ways tbh. Just knowing a bunch of chords and licks, without rhythm, can make a potentially awesome piano solo mediocre. Drummers already got that rhythm down. I’m a pianist and ive tried thinking like a drummer, rhythmically. But man, I just dont have a good sense of ghost notes and syncopation, like I logically get it but when I do it, it just doesnt sound right.
@@woah3108 I absolutely cannot do two different things at once haha. I could not get the hang of drums. But I got my theory down packed. When I first started, before I knew any theory, I had no ear for rhythm but a good ear for harmony. But I've slowly gotten a lot better at piano since then.
The cool thing about making music is that everyone comes from different backgrounds so they have their own strengths and weaknesses.
Some people understand technology, recording and mixing better and some understand theory, arrangement, and composing. Others understand how to play an instrument or use their voice well. Some have good ears, some think in a different direction as others. Some are charismatic, sociable, or have other skills useful in music.
Haha i felt like that so many times!! This is amazing!
bro you lost me at "is it gonna have a chord progression"
"yeah yeah of course that would be good" lolll
This shit right here, I deal with customer like this at work. They come in not knowing what they want or how to get it and in my job that won’t cut it. It’s mad annoying this vid is too accurate…
As a fellow musician I confirm that this is exactly how it goes.
Bro my love for you goes beyond just your videos bro, you inspire me with almost everything I do, I wish I can be like you when I grow up
I actually think it’s good to work this way with people who don’t have the highest musical skill level, and vice versa. I’m a pretty accomplished musician but as of now I’m not great at reading music (I want to be), and sometimes I’ve been that friend who doesn’t know how to produce anything and sometimes I’ve been the friend producing. It’s all about learning and at the end of the day, this track sounds good on this video! It can be super annoying when someone who doesn’t understand how much work goes into making music just expects too much from you, and that can be when it gets exhausting. It’s a fine balance, and I prefer working with people who are on a certain level that I hold in a serious regard, whatever that may be. It seems to make a huge difference
"Like right out of my brain..." Gave me a good chuckle! Naturally the non-musician will expect full songwriting credit for the song. They always do, no matter how little they actually contributed to the making of the track.
😄😄
Yep!.💯🎯
Where can i play just the beat its self its so good
Loop the end
Hahahahaha... this is sooo spot on!! I don't know if I should laugh or cry, because that was pretty much the case in half of my music encounters (even in professional bands with studied musicians). Great job, man! Only thing missing: THEY want to put THEIR name first when it comes to credits ;-)
I'll be honest, I'd be the guy giving vague instructions. I like music, but I'd rely on someone else's talent to get anything good done lol
U can learn production
@@DreErdna I've watched some TH-cam videos and spent years dabbling with Audacity. Even took a Sound Design course, but I'm only at the level where I can do a basic cleaning and sound mixing.
Some people have the skills. I am not one of them.
@@Rainstar230 because they spent years & years perfecting their craft. Doesn’t come in a day or a year.
@@Rainstar230 ur prolly better than u think!!
@@DreErdna True. I'd probably get better if I took more time to practice and stayed consistent.
Perhaps it's time I actually upload something I've made to see if it's any good.
this made me cry... out of my ignorance (exactly like the non-musician dude in the video) and out of the quality of the song.
you're a hero Darius... a hero.
The worst is when the producer thinks he's making some fire ish when his friends gas him up and it sounds like the barney i love you song with trap cymbals SMH 😂😂😂😂😂🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
Alright now I need to hear a trap ass barney remix
I second this Barney Trap. Do it.
and make it NYC trap too
Ha ha ha! I love it!! So many people making “music” out there today (and there are a LOT of them) think just because they can click and drag pre-made loops around on a computer they are “musicians.” You gotta earn that label. You have to pay your dues practicing an instrument for years, gain some cred and learn some theory or read music notation AND have more than just some ability to use a mouse. No one gets to call themselves a “musician” without some bona fide skill. You don’t get to call yourself a “doctor” or a “chef” or a “pilot”
without putting in the work, the years and the effort to earn those titles legitimately. Music is no different. Great video!!
okay this song is actually quite a VIBE!! Post it Mr. Benson❤️
As a lofi/jazz hip hop music producer, I’ve taken music classes long ago but I barely understand theory so I make music by ear. But when working with someone who doesn’t know how to actually make music at all, it’s kinda hard to work with them after a while lol.
Bro can we get a longer version to when producers think they have something hot pt 2 that beat is just too nice
I have not seen your stuff in ages, thank you for still existing.
Honestly having someone that doesn’t know a thing about music but can convey vague ideas helps me be more creative. I mean this skit is not a good example but some constructive ideas are always helpful
I always ask non-artists for their feedback on my art whether that’s music or paintings or writing… because they view it very differently and art is a funny thing that is made by artists for the enjoyment of non-artists. So whether they know it or not, consumers have a really good ear for what they like. But we pretend that non-artists have no idea what they’re talking about. And in a way, they don’t, but they know what they FEEL. And if a friend, who knows nothing about music, just feels like something looks/sounds weird, then I trust that reaction. Because, ultimately, that reaction is the same feeling that causes millions of people to purchase Drake albums or read a Harry Potter book. They may not be able to describe what they like about something, but they can certainly describe how they feel about something.
@@PtylerBeats yeah this is what I mean. Feedback is good, especially from someone who has a completely different perspective from you
Love this skit! Lol, brilliantly done! Thank you for sharing your incredible talent with us. ♥️
he’s teaching us how to make music in the most entertaining way possible
Oh damn. You hit the nail on the head. Non musicians/producer collaboration. I spit out my lunch I laughed so hard. Hilarious.
You forgot the part where he says “no man, that’s not it! In my head it’s sounds more turquoise. But maybe with just a hint of orange around the edges. You know what I mean?”
No man, I don’t know what you mean. I play guitar. I don’t read minds!
As someone who does that exact thing and know others that do it to me, I sympathize with you but also understand the color analogies. Talking about music is strange
Maybe your friends are synesthetic and don’t know it
@@PtylerBeats they probably are and it’s something about myself I only found out had a name about a year ago
Wow! I'm not alone! Now show the part with the girls hanging off of the non musician while they sing along to your - I mean his song!
Ooh, I’m an author and I feel this so hard. Oh, I have a story in mind but don’t have time to do it, but you could. We could collaborate or something. Or, I want to write a memoir, can you help me, or even write it, because it’ll sound better coming from you. My placid grin, rapid blinking, and heavy sigh have become legendary.
Haha, Aren. 🤗
Hey, don’t feel bad, i used to be just the idea guy but now i produce, and i play drums, bass and guitar, just gotta hustle and put that practice in. I think learning how to make beats gave me the introductory music theory that i needed to transfer over to playing live music and i suggest everybody who wants to make music takes a little gander at the software side
"You can just do the mixing or whatever"..."Yeah, yeah some chords would be good" 😂😂
I like a midway between those 2 people, I can tell you what style and what instruments I hear going but when it comes to notes, I usually have like 1 idea of a pattern with drums, but then the rest I got no idea for especially when adding effects, I know how and most of the time which effect I want but its usually flat out guessing on the knobs until I hear what I want, other than that its usually me saying we need something make the beat more interesting, missing something in the beat, or some part needs to be lowered or raised
I love these
I always love having my friends come over and vocalize some stuff for me to play on piano xD
you missed the part where they get the mp3 and go around saying " yo listen to this fire beat i made"
💯🎯!.
Real talk. This is 💯 % . Really does my head in on a whole level!!!!
“We make a good team” lmao after I wrote this kids whole verse. Yup this is accurate
Session musicians on Fiverr be like...
Sounds like a Sonic menu screen
ur beats sound as calm as ur voice, which is pretty dope man! keep going!
I’ve always wanted to get with a music producer and get my ideas out of my head but I didn’t know it annoyed them so much
You know how many times women wasted my time and hurt my feelings cause they made me feel so used 😭 it's okay to engage and learn but you gotta be respectful and mindful. Music isn't a tool for musicians to be social particularly. It's a very intimate part of their lives and enjoy to share it not just give it away
It's less annoying if you actually have clear ideas - e.g. can you hum a tune you thought of? If we tried out three different chord progressions, could you choose the one you like? Can you beat out what you envisioned the drums doing on a table? Can you be really descriptive about the "story" or ideas you had? Even like "Hey, so it has this little bit that repeats, and then after a while this higher tune starts... nah, kind of a more... string sound? Yeah, cool. And it goes a bit like this but I'm not sure what to do next...Great. Then the bass line kicks in... it kind of goes up and down, a bit like walking up and down stairs... this kind of rhythm? Nah, maybe change like the third note? Yeah, that works now. Cool, and the drums start at the same time... Then there's like a fall off, and we add some white noise.... hmmmm not quite right. Rain sounds?"
See? Already, you have a clearer idea.
@@juliemichellerobinson1841 Yea I can actually answer yes to all of those questions, I just don’t understand the technical part of putting it all together. I’m more of a drawer/painter (and can sing) and I’ve always dreamed of combining all these things together but I recognize I cannot do it all on my own
@@Euphoryaaa Having clear ideas and being able to explain them is the key to good studio time. This video is kinda making fun of how this dude just hummed a melody and the studio worker pretty much made the rest of it himself from there. If you are at least trying to help give them your ideas, you'll have your own great song. Maybe invest in a little MIDI keyboard and get a cheap DAW like Reaper, find some free MIDI instrument packs online and just start messing around with it. While it definitely helps to have prior understanding of music theory and some music background, that won't keep you from making great tracks if you make something you like. And then youll be able to understand the studio process better in case you do end up working with a music producer.
@@owenfolsom9875 Thanks! I really appreciate your comment
This is the greatest shit I’ve ever seen 😂
It hits close to home with everything musician/ producer!.😂💯
This is giving me Zelda and Bomber Man vibes. Insane! 🔥 🎶
This is very funny and also VERY educational ! Thanks!!!
"I got this great melody in my head, it would be a hit"
"Ok, can you hum it for me"
*hums an arpeggiated minor chord*
"Well, that's... really basic... could become a hit though"
This is me and my brother every time. I notice with a lot of people who play guitar, dont actually play guitar. They know a few songs and chords from those songs, not much about freestyle or finding their own sound. It's a blast 😅
I would’ve say “boyyyyy this my beat. Not OURS!!” 😂😂
Love it! Haha sick beat too man. Have a great day 🤟❤️
I am absolutely the clueless friend lmfao i wish i knew where to start in regards to music knowledge since i have no instruments🤣 i do usually have good ideas in my head i wont lie
Start with a small piano keyboard or MIDI Controller connected to a daw. Then learn some music theory basics. You don't have to be good a piano either. Just enough to put a musical idea down.
@@dundy96 thank you for yhe advice! Ive always wanted to get into music with no real clue as to how
@@Hakeemthedr3am no problem I'm just starting as well. And I find that having a keyboard helps because you're not necessarily worried about wether or not you can actually make a sound come out of the instrument. (For example with a guitar or trumpet or whatever) you simply press a key and the instrument does the rest. The music theory might not help until later on but if you have a good ear you'll hear what sounds good.
Try guitar
bro, you don’t even need to learn an instrument at all. people who use midi keyboards or instruments to produce usually already know how to play it, so they use it to produce. but you don’t even need to know how to play anything in order to produce. just learn how to use a daw, and learn music theory.
unless of course you want to learn an instrument, then by all means go ahead.
you also said you have good ideas in your head, i would just jump straight into the daw and try to make something. if you already have ideas, don’t let them die out.
i myself skipped learning an instrument, and i still don’t know how to read musical notation, and i’m doing just fine.
It's like when someone give you an app idea and you have to build *everything* and they call it 50/50
Anyways ima need you to make a LoFi playlist now
So much this!
Thank you for articulating this nonsense soooo perfectly.
Yo I'm early 🎶
Edit: This was me using FL Studio. I could never for the life of me explain what kind of song I wanted to make unless I figured it out for myself.
Love this video actually hahahahaha exactly what I was hoping for a new creative energy in youtube a better way to express and tell stories 💡
Bruh, how did I end up beatboxing almost the exact bass line and same drum right before he started playing them? Like, when they had that discussion of what else to add, I was just vibing to something I would add to those first two parts, and then he played it. The difference was the bassline I thought of had a little more to it, and the drum was a bit simpler on the kick.
Yeah, we internalize some patterns bc of the music we listen to as a society. It's a cultural thing, so it's not surprising that plenty of songs sound similar. The more you listen, the more you learn and your mind absorbs that, so that's why it's important to listen to different types of music if you wanna produce diverse songs
@@UN-Seki I don't think it was that philosophical. I just felt like that's what would fit best with what he'd started with.
@@dominiccampbell181 really, I'm just saying you heard stuff like that before, so your mind led you almost the same place as his
Aaaaamazing man!!! I have those funny moments so often in the studio. Just like that!!! 😆😆😆
Lol as a noob starting out, I do both these characters with myself.
As a producer i can confirm that this is 100% accurate 😂
Dawg I remember when my nephew wanted to help me make a song and he did like one chord. I added more chords to make it a progression and made the melody with it since dude wouldn't communicate with me at all. Eventually I finished the song, and when I was done he said "wow we made this song sound so good"
we must have the same nephew
Sounds just like folks who want help to build an app .... except I can't do nothing that fast 😂
lmao just carry the whole team through the project why don't ya. 🤣
I was really expecting it to turn out to be one of the existing songs with exact melody, exact chords and exact sound patches. And at the end him going "Yeah this already exists"
That's gotta' be a confidence thing.
Dude could probably sing the full idea he's thinking of if he took his time to structure it a little in his head and sing one layer at a time, chord roots/bassline, "slow drums for this part then it picks up", turns out being a verse/hook whatever.
Asking the musician/producer to do it is like, not willing to jump in and try, and hoping the musician can just understand exactly what they hand in mind, not really realising how many infinite ways you can go with one simple ass motif.
We all got the music, just need the faith/courage and I guess willingness/discipline/strength to push through and execute, get those ideas out there.
You don't need the key or any theory/language to sing it, "like this", we are the language yo.
(I know this is one guy lol, but it's an interesting point, cool observation)
This is soooo so true!
Good to have you back sir.
hi
Hi!!!
@@thekittycat64 hola i was first xd
Oh man this is so true!... I got this in my head! Can you play it a bit more like this...
This seems like my kids buttering me up for whatever they want. Also they want bacon and pancakes, but not that healthy vegan bacon you made last week
Because the vegan bacon probably tastes like shit 😭
Real talk fo sho. Like when someone comes in sayin I want something that sound big and that all the input they got lmao!!!