Wow that Signia crown looks amazing! Too bad they are not bringing a plug in hybird to USA or Canada yet, and only planning on selling only 1 trim , the limited in Canada. It’s a shame a beautiful vehicle like the venza is going to be discontinued!
I'm guessing Toyota/Lexus will really ramp PHEV and full EV models once their dedicated battery factory in North Carolina USA is up and running in late 2025.
A lot of overlap between Crown and Lexus but before too long Lexus is committed to going all EV so maybe this is a longer term way of offering a luxury option to those who prefer hybrid.
Lexus plans to sell *only* BEVs in North America by 2030 (and the years that lead up to 2030 would already see the non-BEVs dwindling). I don't think there's a concrete date for Toyota but we can be sure it would be much later.
@JohnHawksley87 Toyota owns Lexus. By 2030, Toyota has said that one-third of its entire global production will be electric. That is a lot of vehicles. That is a commitment.
YEEAAAAAAA more of the duo, as requested haha What are your thoughts on size compared to a cx-50? Definitely cross shopping the hybrid 50, 70 and crown signia now
This is suppose to replace the current short lived resurrected Venza. But the beef I have with this replacement model is current Venza has head-up-display and power steering options. Crown Signia doesn't have these options.
Love you two. Well done with the presentation chemistry.👏 About the Crown Estate, I love it, especially the interior. But when you mention premium stitching missing, I had to agree. Also, the naming “Signia” could’ve just been “Estate” which sounds better, and the missing Crown logo is another zonk. Otherwise I think it’s a worthy successor to the almighty Venza.
From Venza a SUV to Crown Signia, a WAGON. In the 80’s the CROWN series was the top of Toyota’s line that tower its lower end models like the Corona, Cressida and Corolla. So bringing back the Crown series is great but it kind of lost its “prestige” it had in the 80’s.
The Venza was appreciated but buyers could not get one as Toyota could not meet demand. It was a Japan built vehicle and people who made deposits for same were left empty handed.
The NX is smaller and comparable so I would have to go with that one. I'm getting sick and tired of Manufacturers making each New Vehicle or Refresh of existing vehicles larger and larger. Not every American is overweight, have dogs, kids or need all that extra space.
I hope this becomes the rav4 here in the UK. This design is just so balanced and exquisite and a far cry of the current rav4, which I've always found to be an eyesore. Great preview.
My issue is the crown interior is the same for all models! My gf and I got the crown crossover 2023. I was highly considering getting the sport/suv whichever one north america gets, but the same interior was the major turnoff for me. It made me go towards lexus instead. Maybe that was toyotas goal😂
The Crown Sedan still looks the most aesthetically pleasing out of the Toyota Crown lineup imo (and would be the most ideal one to purchase if you're in the market for a new car), I'm hoping that it will eventually be available in North America, maybe we will get a Lexus GS counterpart in North America. But I think this Crown Signia looks pretty good.
I hope when it does go on sale in North America that it will have a HUD and power tilt-telescoping wheel as my 2022 Venza Limited has those and this is bound to be lots more $$$. Toyota will have to figure out pricing as all these "Crowns" are stepping into Lexus territory.
I wonder which other Crowns we'll be getting in the GCC. We got the Crown that replaces the Avalon in June and I was told there was more to come. I hope we get the sedan and sport. The estate is my least favorite. Also Kirk, which is supposed to arrive earlier, the GX or the 250? Cause a manager at Lexus here told me we won't be getting the GX for a couple years, but the Prado is coming sometime in the spring (like March-April).
Kirk, I don’t know how I ended up unsubscribed to your channel? Thankfully TH-cam recommended your Maverick content to me yesterday so I was able to subscribe to you again.
Do you think Toyota will ultimately offer the Signia with the same 340 hop Hybrid Max powertain that's in the lifted Sedan or, perhaps, even the PHEV powertrain that's in the RAV4 Prime?
I miss the 10 minute windows you got at the Tokyo Mobility fair to film each car. I really dislike seeing folks get in the way of your review. I don't understand why they cant wait for you to finish by giving you space to film. Thankfully Dave got that one guy out of the way. Really wish americans where more considerate about others.
We have 2024 crown. The interior is kind of tight and lacking off the luxury elements. With the same price , you can buy Mercedes C class. Again, we bought Toyota because of the reliability and affordable maintenance cost.
That's a nice station wagon. Station wagons are superior to SUVs because they handle better, have just as much room, and are more fuel efficient. If Toyota calls it a station wagon or "Estate", they won't sell any to Americans. If they call it a SUV, Americans will make it a best seller and there will be a wait list.
I totally agree with you with the wagons being superior vehicles. Not too high or low, easy to get in and out of, they handle really well. I miss my Passat wagon.
For every car model I would only consider the wagon/estate/SUV/crossover/whatever you call with an extended truck version, not sedan not hatchback. This is my jam.
I’m wondering about the placement of the radar module on this and the new Camry. Will it help keep the snow and ice off of it? The problem with my 18 Camry is it gets disabled easily when there is snow and ice on it.
Yes, it would be a disaster if the headlights test out as Marginal or Poor! The current (now last gen) Camry is a "Top Safety Pick +" and the current Crown hasn't been tested yet. In 2023, there should be no excuse for a vehicle not to have "Good" rated headlights. Unless of course function gives way to style 😞
@@jsfbay1how do they test lights? What's considered great? I feel like nowadays most headlights are too much and are blinding everyone on the opposite lane
Here’s the problem. Toyota is introducing all these new models and they can’t manufacture enough of their existing models. They don’t have the parts to produce all these cars. It’s irritating the way Toyota is handling their current production orders.
Amazing design amazing Toyota quality.. just saw David in a Mazda video, saying how it was better than Toyota. He’s obviously wrong that was being paid to do a Mazda commercial do not trust him.
Thanks you two for going over this car together, you did a great job. Kirk is right, this is a larger (?) and more upscale Outback. It will be a hit. I love the proportions of this vehicle (I love wagons, if I can call it that, and have owned three of them over the years), and from the moment I saw this revealed with all four Crown variants, I knew I wanted it. But I really don't understand the product planners or whoever decides what content goes in what vehicles. Isn't the Crown line of vehicles meant to represent the best of Toyota, as in the most luxurious/exclusive line of vehicles? Well then Toyota, here's my list of features I was expecting but am not seeing. (It turns out that some of the equipment in my list may be available, but isn’t on the vehicle at the auto show &/or wasn't mentioned in the reviews I've watched.) 1. Hybrid Max (HM) powertrain. It's available on the other Crown, so why not this one? What a disappointment. Toyota, I hope you offer this later, perhaps in a Platinum trim that has these other "missing" features (see below.) David and/or Kirk, are you aware of any shortages of any of the components of the HM powertrain that would require Toyota to prioritize what receives HM and what doesn't? 2. Head Up Display (HUD.) I realize the other Crown here in North America doesn't have one, but, if this is the premium nameplate for Toyota, why omit a feature that is available on the brand-new 9th generation Camry (and is on the Venza that this vehicle is replacing)? 3. Traffic Jam Assist (TJA.) Turns out at least one reviewer has said that TJA *is* available in a package, but this pre-production (prototype?) vehicle didn't have the driver attention monitor camera(s) so I assumed TJA was unavailable. 4. Fourth generation hybrid system instead of Fifth. This is according to a Toyota spokeswoman quoted in a video by the "Driven Car Reviews with Tom Voelk" car review channel. The new Camry (and Prius and Corolla) uses the newest 5th generation system. Is this an issue of total system output? I.E. the Signia is quoted at 243 hp, but the new Camry has less. Is the 5th gen system intended for use only in smaller, lighter vehicles? 5. 360 cameras. Turns out that 360 cameras will be available in a package, but perhaps not on this specific show vehicle (no one has mentioned it so far, and I’ve watched a lot of reviews on this vehicle.) 6. Parking aids. The other North American Crown has Advanced Park on the Platinum trim. What about this Signia? Please Toyota? 7. Parking sensors. I didn't see evidence of them, nor did I see them mentioned in the press release (and I don’t recall any reviewer mentioning them.) I get that this isn’t the size of a Grand Highlander, but they would still be helpful and are available in many other vehicles. Please Toyota? 8. Kick sensor for the rear hatch. This is available on many other vehicles. Maybe it's on this Crown Signia but I didn't see mention of it in the press release. Please Toyota? Update: Micah Muzio from Kelley Blue Book says there *is* a kick sensor available, just not on the car at the show. 9. Electric tilt/telescopic steering wheel. That’s available on the Venza that this vehicle will be replacing. As I said above, I suspect some, if not all these features could come in the form of a future Platinum trim level (or included in one or more packages on the Limited trim.) But I'm guessing it's a secret. It may depend on how well it sells as-is (topping out at the Limited trim level.) What do people think? I think that the more people that ask for these features, the greater the odds Toyota brings them.
If this is the same pricing as the current Crown sedan then it'll be able to sell but higher than it'll be a challenge since you're stepping into Lexus territory.
@@ozyvillanueva9277 exactly what I did. I just bought my wife a new Lexus NX350h, I could get her a Venza Limited for $6k less. But I still chose the Lexus for really not much more $ and I paid cash in full.
At the end of the day (literally) if it lights up the road and doesn't shine into the rear windshield of the car in front of you, it doesn't matter where they put the headlights. Plus, this way they double as fog lights. It makes practical sense.
The low location will affect illumination negatively, and the recessed placement will also create a shadow area close to car. This is a problem. If I bought the Signia I would add additional lights like on a rally car. Major f-up by Toyota.
Is there a chance that the crown series appeals to Lexus buyers that would prefer to not drive such a flashy vehicle. The stealth wealth crowd. David- I wonder what the original concept or idea of Lexus. How was toyota going to manage producing Lexus branded vehicles and and crown series as well. I’ve been in a crown vehicle in Singapore long ago. Very rolls Royce like. Lexus is luxurious but I don’t feel they go after the RR market.
Honestly from what I’ve heard wealthy people already consider Lexus a stealth wealth brand. That compared to normal wealthy people car brands like Mercedes, Audi, Porsche or BMW. So who knows who this car is targeting.
@@ozyvillanueva9277. I am not wealthy in any way and I consider Lexus not flashy at all. I just bought my wife a new Lexus Nx350h and I paid in cash in full. I could get her a Porsche Macan or Mercedes GLE or BMW X3 for not much more $. My wife likes Lexus for it reliability and understated compares to German cars.
I'm just debating about an Outback or now this. I'm not fond of black wheels, but this has digital instrumentation. The Subaru will probably cost less. Tough decision.
Toyota can call that color anything they want, but it looks like Mazda’s Polymetal Gray Metallic to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mazda and Toyota start sharing color palates along with drivetrains and other parts. Beautiful station wagon though.
@@lloydlee8512 I like the RX as well, but I didn’t want to spend $63k OTD. Just bought my wife new 2024 NX350h, $52k OTD in cash. It is smaller for sure but that’s all she needs, her old car was a RX350 and out kids are driving age now so we don’t need a bigger SUV. And for long distance trip my ES350 is more comfortable.
Poor reporting to say this competes with NX or RX. NX 350h starts around 52K if you can find one plus whatever dealer mark-up. RX 350h is about $62k plus. The Signia XLE should start at about $43k. Interesting that Signia, Highlandrr, bz4x, RX, and RZ all share the same 112.2 wheelbase!
Like the SUV wagon and color. Estate wagons are getting rarer and rarer. Pricing, towing ?, safety & comfort features, new colors and wheels, AWD or 4WD.
Be careful Mazda about going TOO upscale as you will be priced out of the market. And why would you take the NEW Venza away after a few short years? Humm...
Also no HUD and no power tilt and telescopic steering like the Venza Limited also the fix panel roof is not a s t a r g a z e drop that too yet it’s over 50 grand most likely I don’t get it
Lifted sedan wouldn’t be bad since the Camry seat height is so low like it’s trying to be a Camaro. A “lifted” sedan would just be a “sedan” from 10 years ago when they weren’t all lowered like they are now. Too bad they ruined the Crown with the low roofline cutting the headroom. It’s too big of a vehicle to have that cramped interior.
That front end kills it for me. The separated headlights makes it look cheap and like an afterthought. Very much like GM and Hyundai/Kia, that’s not a compliment.
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love the bromance you two have going! Awesome stuff guys
Beautiful but I would prefer the sport !
But the sport only for asian market , i thinks
5:14
David: Excuse me sir but get the #@$% out the way
A Clarence Beeks phone booth moment...
You stop your filming... I need my filming ..
The spots on the back seat flaps remove to expose the child anchors. I must be a salesperson 😅
Kirk and David, Toyota has not yet announced pricing. You might want to drop the Lexus comparisons before they add $10K to the price. 😉😉
$10k markup may be the first year, after than they will be all MSRP.
Wow that Signia crown looks amazing! Too bad they are not bringing a plug in hybird to USA or Canada yet, and only planning on selling only 1 trim , the limited in Canada. It’s a shame a beautiful vehicle like the venza is going to be discontinued!
I'm guessing Toyota/Lexus will really ramp PHEV and full EV models once their dedicated battery factory in North Carolina USA is up and running in late 2025.
Now I don't have to buy another Subaru Outback! Thanks for the update Kirk!!! Been waiting for this Estate for a long time!
A lot of overlap between Crown and Lexus but before too long Lexus is committed to going all EV so maybe this is a longer term way of offering a luxury option to those who prefer hybrid.
Toyota is also committed to going all electric.
Lexus plans to sell *only* BEVs in North America by 2030 (and the years that lead up to 2030 would already see the non-BEVs dwindling). I don't think there's a concrete date for Toyota but we can be sure it would be much later.
@JohnHawksley87 Toyota owns Lexus. By 2030, Toyota has said that one-third of its entire global production will be electric. That is a lot of vehicles. That is a commitment.
I'm truly excited that
we're getting an elegant
sporty looking wagon
in North America 👊🏾
Great work guys. You two work well together.
Thank you 😊
YEEAAAAAAA more of the duo, as requested haha
What are your thoughts on size compared to a cx-50? Definitely cross shopping the hybrid 50, 70 and crown signia now
It's beautiful! I wish they would offer a version with 18 inch wheels and some tires that could handle a dirt road.
I wish Toyota would consider a less bulky steering wheel
This is suppose to replace the current short lived resurrected Venza. But the beef I have with this replacement model is current Venza has head-up-display and power steering options. Crown Signia doesn't have these options.
Also much less fuel efficient.
Love you two. Well done with the presentation chemistry.👏
About the Crown Estate, I love it, especially the interior. But when you mention premium stitching missing, I had to agree. Also, the naming “Signia” could’ve just been “Estate” which sounds better, and the missing Crown logo is another zonk. Otherwise I think it’s a worthy successor to the almighty Venza.
Wow this is the nicest Toyota in and out in a long while. I agree, I would like Toyota and Lexus to upgrade their interiors.
From Venza a SUV to Crown Signia, a WAGON. In the 80’s the CROWN series was the top of Toyota’s line that tower its lower end models like the Corona, Cressida and Corolla. So bringing back the Crown series is great but it kind of lost its “prestige” it had in the 80’s.
The Venza was appreciated but buyers could not get one as Toyota could not meet demand. It was a Japan built vehicle and people who made deposits for same were left empty handed.
that dude really loves his panel gaps
The Signia is nice but Lexus and Acura dealerships treat their customers best
So true. My dealership is always 100% straight up with me and they don't try to force you to buy anything
There’s nothing like the Lexus experience. I am spoiled for life.
The NX is smaller and comparable so I would have to go with that one. I'm getting sick and tired of Manufacturers making each New Vehicle or Refresh of existing vehicles larger and larger. Not every American is overweight, have dogs, kids or need all that extra space.
The Crown "Estate" or Signia is a great looking vehicle - fun to talk about this with you Kirk!
I hope this becomes the rav4 here in the UK. This design is just so balanced and exquisite and a far cry of the current rav4, which I've always found to be an eyesore. Great preview.
The Dynamic Duo is back! The more you guys talk about this Signia, the more I consider it for my next car. 🤩Thanks for the insights, Kirk and David!
My issue is the crown interior is the same for all models! My gf and I got the crown crossover 2023. I was highly considering getting the sport/suv whichever one north america gets, but the same interior was the major turnoff for me. It made me go towards lexus instead. Maybe that was toyotas goal😂
This is a nice vehicle! It looks spacious. I really hope we still get the Crown sport, imagine, with hybrid max powertrain 😍
The Crown Sedan still looks the most aesthetically pleasing out of the Toyota Crown lineup imo (and would be the most ideal one to purchase if you're in the market for a new car), I'm hoping that it will eventually be available in North America, maybe we will get a Lexus GS counterpart in North America. But I think this Crown Signia looks pretty good.
My neighbour Jeno would love the white or light Gray 🎉...your definitely on track...as clear as night and day eh😮
…neighbors eh😮
I hope when it does go on sale in North America that it will have a HUD and power tilt-telescoping wheel as my 2022 Venza Limited has those and this is bound to be lots more $$$. Toyota will have to figure out pricing as all these "Crowns" are stepping into Lexus territory.
HUD will not be available in any trim, nor the power tilt/telescoping steering wheel.
New pricing shows around $60K with all the “fixins”.
We need a retro “Oh What A Feeling Toyota “ jump 😃 another fantastic video 🫶🏾 we need the Sport too 😆 please 🙏🏾 Toyota please 🥺
I just love that color😊
I wonder which other Crowns we'll be getting in the GCC. We got the Crown that replaces the Avalon in June and I was told there was more to come. I hope we get the sedan and sport. The estate is my least favorite. Also Kirk, which is supposed to arrive earlier, the GX or the 250? Cause a manager at Lexus here told me we won't be getting the GX for a couple years, but the Prado is coming sometime in the spring (like March-April).
Gx arrives in January
I really wish the Crown Sport was coming to NA/US! Tell Toyota there are quite a few of us who want it over here
We're enjoying this collab!
Great looking! Have they said what colors it will come in?
Kirk, I don’t know how I ended up unsubscribed to your channel? Thankfully TH-cam recommended your Maverick content to me yesterday so I was able to subscribe to you again.
Do you think Toyota will ultimately offer the Signia with the same 340 hop Hybrid Max powertain that's in the lifted Sedan or, perhaps, even the PHEV powertrain that's in the RAV4 Prime?
I hope so! Count me in on wanting that!
Looks great 👍🏽
Kirk I love the front. Finally no spindle gaping mouth!!!
I miss the 10 minute windows you got at the Tokyo Mobility fair to film each car. I really dislike seeing folks get in the way of your review. I don't understand why they cant wait for you to finish by giving you space to film. Thankfully Dave got that one guy out of the way. Really wish americans where more considerate about others.
I like the collabs!!
Love this model.
Yay! I was waiting for this haha
Love these two together they make a formidable team with different gifts.
Just to get this straight, the Venza will no longer be sold after 2025 in North America?
Yes, it got discontinued
Yes. Crown Signia will replace it.
After 2024 calendar year venza is dead in NA
Cadillac Lyriq: $62.k Chevrolet Blazer ev (with some options) 60$K. cant wait to c how they price these....
Absolutely enjoy this duo dynamic
We have 2024 crown. The interior is kind of tight and lacking off the luxury elements. With the same price , you can buy Mercedes C class. Again, we bought Toyota because of the reliability and affordable maintenance cost.
Will Toyota brings a trim with 2.4T engine in future?
it better!!!
how much do you think it cost? $50,000 CAD?
That's a nice station wagon. Station wagons are superior to SUVs because they handle better, have just as much room, and are more fuel efficient. If Toyota calls it a station wagon or "Estate", they won't sell any to Americans. If they call it a SUV, Americans will make it a best seller and there will be a wait list.
I totally agree with you with the wagons being superior vehicles. Not too high or low, easy to get in and out of, they handle really well. I miss my Passat wagon.
Outback sales are going to drop
Depends on pricing, if Toyota gets it right then they absolutely will drop.
Different price. Outback tops at $43k. This wagon will top $52-3k my guess.
Iconic duo
Rather have the sport. I don't think people really like "wagons". I prefer the venza
For every car model I would only consider the wagon/estate/SUV/crossover/whatever you call with an extended truck version, not sedan not hatchback. This is my jam.
How much do you think prices will be?
I’m wondering about the placement of the radar module on this and the new Camry. Will it help keep the snow and ice off of it? The problem with my 18 Camry is it gets disabled easily when there is snow and ice on it.
Did the Guy at the end really said Porsche Purosange... hehe the Ferrari one - thank you for correcting him David
O man that front end smiling with it eyes closed lol 😂
WE WANT THE CROWN SPORT
very nice Toyota 👍
I like this, but just like the sedan, which I own, they need to put more dash stash space! Like the Highlander! Beautiful wagon, though!
That's really a great looking vehicle. And I'm guessing it will have an AWD option too?
AWD is standard
I like the back allot of camping space
I love it. But the headlights seem too small. We'll see what they test like by the IIHS
Yes, it would be a disaster if the headlights test out as Marginal or Poor! The current (now last gen) Camry is a "Top Safety Pick +" and the current Crown hasn't been tested yet. In 2023, there should be no excuse for a vehicle not to have "Good" rated headlights. Unless of course function gives way to style 😞
@@jsfbay1how do they test lights? What's considered great? I feel like nowadays most headlights are too much and are blinding everyone on the opposite lane
It’s a looker, love the color, but probably 10k more than a 2024 Venza Limited.
No more Venza on USA?
Yes. Crown Signia will replace it.
They should’ve done this 25 years ago
Here’s the problem. Toyota is introducing all these new models and they can’t manufacture enough of their existing models. They don’t have the parts to produce all these cars. It’s irritating the way Toyota is handling their current production orders.
Amazing design amazing Toyota quality.. just saw
David in a Mazda video, saying how it was better than Toyota. He’s obviously wrong that was being paid to do a Mazda commercial do not trust him.
I do not think David is influenced by anybody. I take his word as gospel.
You get both trim levels in Canada.
and im sure it will have a Lexus-like price
How much is the current Venza? Because this is confirmed to be replacing it.
@@faheemabbas3965
the crown sedan starts at $40k , so this will be more
Thanks you two for going over this car together, you did a great job. Kirk is right, this is a larger (?) and more upscale Outback. It will be a hit.
I love the proportions of this vehicle (I love wagons, if I can call it that, and have owned three of them over the years), and from the moment I saw this revealed with all four Crown variants, I knew I wanted it. But I really don't understand the product planners or whoever decides what content goes in what vehicles. Isn't the Crown line of vehicles meant to represent the best of Toyota, as in the most luxurious/exclusive line of vehicles? Well then Toyota, here's my list of features I was expecting but am not seeing. (It turns out that some of the equipment in my list may be available, but isn’t on the vehicle at the auto show &/or wasn't mentioned in the reviews I've watched.)
1. Hybrid Max (HM) powertrain. It's available on the other Crown, so why not this one? What a disappointment. Toyota, I hope you offer this later, perhaps in a Platinum trim that has these other "missing" features (see below.) David and/or Kirk, are you aware of any shortages of any of the components of the HM powertrain that would require Toyota to prioritize what receives HM and what doesn't?
2. Head Up Display (HUD.) I realize the other Crown here in North America doesn't have one, but, if this is the premium nameplate for Toyota, why omit a feature that is available on the brand-new 9th generation Camry (and is on the Venza that this vehicle is replacing)?
3. Traffic Jam Assist (TJA.) Turns out at least one reviewer has said that TJA *is* available in a package, but this pre-production (prototype?) vehicle didn't have the driver attention monitor camera(s) so I assumed TJA was unavailable.
4. Fourth generation hybrid system instead of Fifth. This is according to a Toyota spokeswoman quoted in a video by the "Driven Car Reviews with Tom Voelk" car review channel. The new Camry (and Prius and Corolla) uses the newest 5th generation system. Is this an issue of total system output? I.E. the Signia is quoted at 243 hp, but the new Camry has less. Is the 5th gen system intended for use only in smaller, lighter vehicles?
5. 360 cameras. Turns out that 360 cameras will be available in a package, but perhaps not on this specific show vehicle (no one has mentioned it so far, and I’ve watched a lot of reviews on this vehicle.)
6. Parking aids. The other North American Crown has Advanced Park on the Platinum trim. What about this Signia? Please Toyota?
7. Parking sensors. I didn't see evidence of them, nor did I see them mentioned in the press release (and I don’t recall any reviewer mentioning them.) I get that this isn’t the size of a Grand Highlander, but they would still be helpful and are available in many other vehicles. Please Toyota?
8. Kick sensor for the rear hatch. This is available on many other vehicles. Maybe it's on this Crown Signia but I didn't see mention of it in the press release. Please Toyota? Update: Micah Muzio from Kelley Blue Book says there *is* a kick sensor available, just not on the car at the show.
9. Electric tilt/telescopic steering wheel. That’s available on the Venza that this vehicle will be replacing.
As I said above, I suspect some, if not all these features could come in the form of a future Platinum trim level (or included in one or more packages on the Limited trim.) But I'm guessing it's a secret. It may depend on how well it sells as-is (topping out at the Limited trim level.) What do people think? I think that the more people that ask for these features, the greater the odds Toyota brings them.
Nice looking crossover but I am in more into sedans. Btw you look exhausted. I bet you are overworked covering the show and not getting much sleep.
You 2 make a GREAT team. I love both of you guys and your channels
The exterior color is not bad ,but it looks similar to Amazon trucks delivery.!😂
All-new? For me, it is like deep redesign.
I like wagons, and prefer business like interior. So think I'll add one to the three other Toyota's .
If this is the same pricing as the current Crown sedan then it'll be able to sell but higher than it'll be a challenge since you're stepping into Lexus territory.
Comparably equipped the RX350h will be at least $8k more.
@@jml9550I think for someone with the kind of money to buy a new Signia 8k isn’t much of a step up for a more lucrative and fancy car brand.
@@ozyvillanueva9277 exactly what I did. I just bought my wife a new Lexus NX350h, I could get her a Venza Limited for $6k less. But I still chose the Lexus for really not much more $ and I paid cash in full.
Wagon? I'm confused. Why is this titled a wagon? This doesn't appear to be a wagon. Am I mistaken?
Better looking than NX. Venza fail because it’s ugly and much smaller cargo vs rav4.
they should have used a crown badge instead of. besides thatt, its a really overall design
I like Venza much better🤦. Crown sport would be much much better choice over Siginia..😮💨
Not a fan of the headlight being in the bottom like a fog light :/
At the end of the day (literally) if it lights up the road and doesn't shine into the rear windshield of the car in front of you, it doesn't matter where they put the headlights. Plus, this way they double as fog lights. It makes practical sense.
The low location will affect illumination negatively, and the recessed placement will also create a shadow area close to car. This is a problem. If I bought the Signia I would add additional lights like on a rally car. Major f-up by Toyota.
Is there a chance that the crown series appeals to Lexus buyers that would prefer to not drive such a flashy vehicle. The stealth wealth crowd.
David- I wonder what the original concept or idea of Lexus. How was toyota going to manage producing Lexus branded vehicles and and crown series as well. I’ve been in a crown vehicle in Singapore long ago. Very rolls Royce like. Lexus is luxurious but I don’t feel they go after the RR market.
That’s for Singapore and Asia only. Crown is not a luxury here. It is near luxury.
RR?
Honestly from what I’ve heard wealthy people already consider Lexus a stealth wealth brand. That compared to normal wealthy people car brands like Mercedes, Audi, Porsche or BMW. So who knows who this car is targeting.
@@ozyvillanueva9277. I am not wealthy in any way and I consider Lexus not flashy at all. I just bought my wife a new Lexus Nx350h and I paid in cash in full. I could get her a Porsche Macan or Mercedes GLE or BMW X3 for not much more $. My wife likes Lexus for it reliability and understated compares to German cars.
They don't want to give you the Lexus quality but they want you to pay Lexus price ?????
Some would argue it is better than Lexus quality. This is built in Japan, Rx NX, ES built in north America
I'm just debating about an Outback or now this. I'm not fond of black wheels, but this has digital instrumentation. The Subaru will probably cost less. Tough decision.
Toyota can call that color anything they want, but it looks like Mazda’s Polymetal Gray Metallic to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mazda and Toyota start sharing color palates along with drivetrains and other parts. Beautiful station wagon though.
Beautiful car but not a fan that moonroof but I want a sunroof for this suv and Toyota Venza too but I’m keeping my 2015 Toyota Venza now
Then your next car will be a Lexus then. Lexus still offers moonroof on the RX and NX hybrids.
@@jml9550 I can get RX but not getting NX it look small for me but I’m looking forward Lexus RX sometime in 3yrs or something else Acura RDX or MDX
@@lloydlee8512 I like the RX as well, but I didn’t want to spend $63k OTD. Just bought my wife new 2024 NX350h, $52k OTD in cash. It is smaller for sure but that’s all she needs, her old car was a RX350 and out kids are driving age now so we don’t need a bigger SUV. And for long distance trip my ES350 is more comfortable.
Or I can upgrade to 2024 Toyota Grand highlander Limited AWD 8 seats
@@lloydlee8512 to me that’s the GH Hybrid Limited is best deal at only $55k loaded.
Super bummed that Toyota isn't bringing the Crown Sport here. Most of us don't need a 300 ft long SUV :(
lol this isnt even that long, its about same length as the camry
It’s literally the Subaru Outback.
@@faheemabbas3965This is more on road
Poor reporting to say this competes with NX or RX. NX 350h starts around 52K if you can find one plus whatever dealer mark-up. RX 350h is about $62k plus. The Signia XLE should start at about $43k. Interesting that Signia, Highlandrr, bz4x, RX, and RZ all share the same 112.2 wheelbase!
Like the SUV wagon and color. Estate wagons are getting rarer and rarer. Pricing, towing ?, safety & comfort features, new colors and wheels, AWD or 4WD.
Still hard to believe there’s NO MORE avalon
Agree thwt it is a larger higher end Outback
An Outback is 35-40k..they have to match that
Be careful Mazda about going TOO upscale as you will be priced out of the market. And why would you take the NEW Venza away after a few short years? Humm...
This has THS-4 yet it is supposed to be the top or near top Toyota product? You’d think it would be THS-5.
Hard pass. Same with Crown “Lifted Sedan”.
Also no HUD and no power tilt and telescopic steering like the Venza Limited also the fix panel roof is not a s t a r g a z e drop that too yet it’s over 50 grand most likely I don’t get it
Lifted sedan wouldn’t be bad since the Camry seat height is so low like it’s trying to be a Camaro. A “lifted” sedan would just be a “sedan” from 10 years ago when they weren’t all lowered like they are now.
Too bad they ruined the Crown with the low roofline cutting the headroom.
It’s too big of a vehicle to have that cramped interior.
Wow, this thing looks awesome!
looks ugly & bloated
A Lexus like vehicle without a Spare Tire?
They should have named it the "crown swag or swoop or just crown cross"
That front end kills it for me. The separated headlights makes it look cheap and like an afterthought. Very much like GM and Hyundai/Kia, that’s not a compliment.