The Secrets of Garabandal
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- Listen to Dr. Moynihan and Michael Hottinger as they discuss Garabandal.
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I would love too, but I am poor. I will pray for all those who are going.
I’m in the same poor boat as you(above) but look where that got Peter! 😀
Someday I’ll find a way to get to Garabandal!
I met Michael in Garabandal 2 years ago. I am a flight attendant for a major US Airline. I had a 2 day layover in Madrid, so my friend and I drove the 5 hours from Madrid to San Sebastián de Garabandal. We stayed in Asturias but spent a day walking around the village and exploring. It wasn’t until we were getting ready to return to Madrid that I made my last visit in the Visitors Center. I met Michael and he and I spoke at length. I speak Spanish but I was so taken aback to hear English spoken, and with an American accent! He was very kind, very informative and generous. I think Michael will remember this conversation.
I would love to return
At 47 yrs old I was in Santiago de Compostela fo my MA in Spanish in 2004-6 abut I knew NOTHING OF GARABANDAL! Or Fatima... Nowi know and have so much researched them both!,! I ache to return but have no $$ ! 8 grandchildren here in US and still teach high school Spanish. How can I get ther?!! God willing. I will within the 8 days announced b6 Conchita!
I met Michael in Garabandal January this year and watched his wonderful presentation twice🙏
A wonderful guy who has a great passion for his mission🙏
Delighted that he is doing this interview to get the word out because it’s a powerful message to the world and the Church🙏
Mikes, my nephew, is so impressive. Thursdays with Mike sounds great.
Superlative interview! Thank you, Dr. Moynihan for inviting Michael on your show to discuss these topics that most people are afraid of touching. I believe we are in the cusp of events foretold by our Blessed Mother at Fatima, Garabandal and Akita. These three visitations are of the same tapestry.
He’s truest a wonderful man! Thank God for Men like Michael!
Would you please let your guest speak. He’s easy to follow and does not need constant clarification. Also having a guest should be the guest’s opportunity to share his knowledge, not the interviewers. If the interviewer wants to show his knowledge do a solo podcast.
Your just picky their had a very nice conversation all through they are friends which sometimes the interuptions or fine they’v got a lovely relationship and its kind of cosy 👋👋👋☺️😍😇🥰💟☮️✝️☸️🕎🕉️✡️❤️🙏🙏🌻🌹🌸
Wonderful, enlightening interview. I will definitely tune in on Thursday from Australia. You are both a delight to listen to and I will
pray that your messages reach the world at large for so many who need them. God bless you both.
Speaking also from Australia….. we will definitely be tuning in for more!!
Wonderful interview Robert! So informative and confirming!
Wonderful discussion. The guest's voice is so calming and undoubtedly blessed. My mother gave me a Rosary from Garabandal in the late 70s. I cherish it. God Bless you borh.
I first heard of Garabandal on EWTN July 1994. I went back to confession and Mass 8/4/94...Feast of St. John Vianney. I am also from Delaware County, St. Philomena parish, but now attend the Traditional Latin Mass. Though I always loved my Faith, and never stopped praying, I was lazy and did not receive the Sacraments as I should. I will be FOREVER in debt to Our Lady for nudging me back via the Message of Garabandal. We were very blessed to have Mother Angelica and EWTN to guide us.
I remember in the spring of 1957 when I was a senior in college in Pennsylvania that it was reported in the national news that the message of Fatima had been forwarded to Rome from Portugal through TWO SEPARATE TRANSMISSIONS, two days apart. One transmission must have been the single sheet of paper that contained the actual words of Our Lady of Fatima that explained the MEANING of the apparition that Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta had just seen. The other transmission must have been Lucia’s notebook that described the apparition. When the Vatican released the Secret of Fatima in 2000, the actual words of Our Lady of Fatima were omitted.
Antonio Socci’s book, The Fourth Secret of Fatima, should be read by everyone who wants to know the full story.
I have the honor to know Michael’s parents. They are an example of godly, faithful, humble and God loving people .Thank you Michael for sharing your deep knowledge about Garabandal with us. Looking forward to next interviews with you. God Bless you!🙏
I met Michael just over 10 days ago in Garanbandal for the second time. He very kindly gave me time and fascinating information. Garanbandal is 100% true and of the utmost importance. God bless you Mike, Mervyn from Ireland. Don’t forget to watch out for my email request
Then how come Joey didn’t have his eyesight restored BEFORE he died?
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan He was told that he would see the miracle before he died, now are you going to say that he didn’t?
Some of my members have asked about this interview and I will wholeheartedly state Michael's testimony is wonderful and accurate information. Please share this video with others.
Many thanks Glenn... God bless you!
@michaelstephen6773 Please be advised that Glen Hudson is Not an authority on Garabandal. He mixes lies with Truth and has never even bothered going to Garabandal. Ask him a straight honest critical question and will hide run and delete and block you ftom "his members". You have a duty not to be deluded.
Michael if you ever get to San Giovanni and speak to Bro Emerlinda who actually knew and lived with Padre Pio then he will tell you a completely different story.
@@markmcintyre8102Padre Bernardino Cennamo, OFM Cap (the Superior of the Capuchin Order) would refute the claims made by Bro Emerlinda. Just a question: Was Bro Emerlinda ever a stone cutter?
Upon Padre Pio’s death in 1968, his close friend Padre Bernardino Cennamo, OFM Cap, was instructed to give Conchita several of his personal items. The priest gave Conchita one of the three veils that covered Padre Pio's face during his wake, saying that the stigmatic had requested this before he died. Conchita also was given Padre Pio's rosary, and one of the gloves he wore, stained by his stigmata.
Padre Pio affirmed Garabandal to Joachim Bouflet Ph.D in confession. Joachim Bouflet, Ph.D. (Doctor and Professor of Philosophy in the Sorbonne University of Paris and Consultant of the Congregation for the causes of the Saints in Rome) went to Padre Pio for confession on the evening of the 23rd of August 1968 [1 month before his death on 23 September 1968]. Padre Pio told him "Pray to the Madonna. Consecrate yourself to the Virgin of Carmel." "Yes, Padre, I pray to Our Lady of Mount Carmel. For that matter, I would like to become a Carmelite." He didn't comment on this but repeated with insistence, "Consecrate yourself to the Virgin of Carmel who appeared at Garabandal."
Bouflet: "So it's true?"
Padre Pio: "Certo e vero!" ("Yes, it's true!") Padre Saavedra, Garabandal Message of Hope, p. 244
From the book “Our Lady comes to Garabandal” by Fr. J. Pelletier, A.A., p. 219.
“While he was living, the same Padre Pio guaranteed the authenticity of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin. He met Conchita at San Giovanni Rotondo [January 1966]. Even during the last days of his life he talked about this to his brothers in religious life and left a personal message for the principle personage of the apparitions.”
From the book “The Final Hour” by Michael Harold Brown, p.141.
On the topic of Padre Pio’s belief in Garabandal: “Asked on another occasion about its authenticity, he answered curtly, “How many times must she appear there to be believed?”
From the book “Thunder of Justice” by Ted and Maureen Flynn, p. 163.
An incident which confirms Padre Pio’s belief in Garabandal occurred early in 1966. Conchita, who was only 16 years old, was visiting Rome with her mother and Fr. Luna. She had been invited by Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith. During the visit to Italy, Conchita met privately with Padre Pio. On this occasion, Padre Pio took Conchita’s hand and her crucifix that Our Lady had kissed in Garabandal and held them both in his own two hands. The crucifix had passed through the hands of the Child Jesus, during the apparition of 13 November 1965.
Are you the same Michael as interviewed in this podcast,,?
Yes can’t wait to watch next video!!! So pumped about Garabandal!! Thanks for sharing, ❤ from Kristy in Missouri 😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏📿📿📿🕊️🕊️🕊️
We loved this video. What Michael has to say about Padre Pío's letter was very powerful. Michael is an excellent witness. Thank you.
I would like to ‘like’ your program tonight a second time if that were possible. 😂
Forward it to many others who will surely give it the thumbs up 👍
Thank you so very much. This was excellent.
Great show. I’m so interested to hear more from Michael. I have just being watching, again, Garabandal: Unstoppable Waterfall. Great documentary with eyewitness testimony of all that happened. So, wonderful timing.
Great to listen to both of you, very interesting, God Bless!
Michael, what a wonderful surprise to hear you speaking with Dr Moynihan this morning, here in New Zealand. I met you last year when staying in the Divine Will House in Garabandal for 7 weeks. I'm so pleased to hear you'll be sharing your knowledge and love for our Blessed Mother to more of us around the world. We in New Zealand are the Antipodes to Garabandal. Thank you for your help while i was there.
Sherry Hughes
Excellent! I will tune in for the next one!!!!❤🙏
WONDERFUL INTERVIEW! Thank you both and God bless!🙏🏻✝️❤️🇺🇸
matches in with the strange denunciation by Fernández trying to silence Maryian apparitions and the wonderful supernatural effects of our Mother's messages
Yes. Confusion and conflicts ct are generated by the devil
Thank you for all your dedication to the truth and bringing the Truth to all of us, Dr. Moynihan. An amazing broadcast and great thanks to both of you. Hearing the stories and thoughts from you gentleman, give both hope and confidence, as well as faith in Our Lady and the Church.
THANK YOU FOR THIS.PLEASE TELL THE WORDS WE ALL NEED.
Wow, I can"t believe the knowledge of you to great men. Thank you!
I'm so glad this discussion will be continuing. This first one was riveting. I was in the studio audience at EWTN when Joey Lomangino was Mother Angelica's guest.
Thank you both was soooo good to listen to you both , look forward to next week
Dr. Moynihan and Michael Hottinger, it has been a pleasure to listen to both of you speak with passion of Garanbandal and including history lessons for us to follow with more understanding! You are wonderful people who compliment each to get the word out with a powerful message to the world and the Church! God Bless you both 🙏📿
Thank you,God bless! Great guest! 🙏 Salve Regina!
Thank you kindly both, my good gentleman.
God bless you both for doing good works for the Truth.
Nice to see you here my good comrade Mike. :-)
Please hurry and get Michael Hottinger back!!! He started to say things that need much more attention...
A tremendous discussion. Gentlemen, thank you both. Wishing ye every blessing. From Ireland ☘️.
May 30 ----ST JOAN OF ARC ... Pray for us !!!
I do believe that the awakening of conscience is happening now in gentle prayer to people in the state of grace. Those outside of the Church will require a more significant awakening that will be frightening to them. This has been on my heart for awhile.
This was amazing!! Thank God for both of you good men. We need more of you. God Bless and keep you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Awesome show
Thank you, again! Talking about the Holy Rosary, I just remembered Bishop Oliver Dashe Doeme's vision as he was going to his chapel and Jesus appeared to him with a sword in His hands. When the Bishop received it, it became a Rosary! Like St. Padre Pio used to say, it is a weapon! So, let's have a holy, powerful army with Our Lady's weapon for God's great glory. God bless all. 🕊️📿🙏
Hello from Wellfleet, Cape Cod, Trip to Garandabal in 2009
Pray The Holy Rosary and The Chaplet of the Seven Sorrows of Mary daily.
In June of 1988, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, imparted the definitive judgment regarding the events and messages of Akita, judging them to be trustworthy and worthy of faith. The Cardinal observed that Akita is a continuation of the messages of Fatima. WE KNOW THE THIRD SECRET!!!!!! The third secret was REVEALED to Sr. Agnes Sasagawa in Akita, Japan.
Excited for rhe next video with Michael 🙏💕🙏
The Lady delivered her message and the vatican could not stop Her. The Vatican also could not silence the seers or hid them.
Our Lady of Garabandal vs the hierarchy in the Vatican.?
Im really looking forward to the Thursday show.☘️
Saw Michael with Mark McLean. He went my Michael Stephen. Great in terviews with Mark.
Wonderful!
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Malichi was furious. John used very insulting, aggressive talk and Malachi was furious .
Please given us the the exact letter!!!!why is it not wheret!!!!!!where. PLEASE. The world needs this and especially the WORDS.
And deeper than anything mentioned here is the horrific realization that the novus ordo also changed the episcopal ordination. This is what the sedevacantists talk about. I'm not a sede but they do have a point regarding the changes made to the episcopal ordination. This is why Archbishop Lefevre started his own seminary so that the original Ordination rites were held complete as they always had been in past centuries. It does bring to light that If the bishops are not fully ordained they cannot ordain priests. And this is why among the canceled priests why many of them have been conditionally re-ordained, secretly. I remember a year or so ago Mel Gibson had many of these priests over to his home/ the church that he built and a very well-known traditional Bishop provided conditional re-ordination in the old rite. Some say it was Bishop Williamson course he has not said anything and nor do we know the names of the priests. But it's a very sobering thought.
When I think of the lack of traditional Catholic theology for seminarians being ordained at a diocesan levels across this country. They could never get Through the original seminary training that a sedevacantist seminarian goes through today. It's daunting but It is the exact kind of clear training that all seminarians used to get..but now lack due to modern formation methods.
Sooo is the Novus Ordo produced by the Church, bad for our souls?
Our short video of the devotion of the cross among the Garabandal girls:
th-cam.com/users/shortsAa6W0rk7SkU?feature=share
It is annoying that Moynihan kept changing subject and rambled into other topics when Michael was getting into controversal. Seems Moynihan too wants to avoid topic of the full 3rd secret of Fatima.
I do not realise what he is cutting though.he is trying to absorb a lot and the MESSAGE IS GETTING OBSCURED. The is a got man.
The first a Fussia was the shocking making if a two headed dog.on that very day.the dog lastly a few days. But it was shocking.my father was a commie at that time. He later became
a catholic.
This was excellent! I've never heard much of Garabandal, only some things, and was skeptical, I guess in a good way, but this was so informative and a very wonderful discussion. I believe in this now as it is not coming across as 'trendy' but very true. I appreciate this so much. How I would love to go on the pilgrimage but at this time, I don't think it will be able to happen for me. Robert, do you ever have any pilgrimages in the USA? I would love to go to Champion Wisconsin, to see the *only* approved apparition site in fhe USA. Mike, thank you for your explanations of this so well spoken. God bless you both.
I really don’t like when someone cuts off or talks over someone . Let you guest speak
Why is it that Garabandal has not yet been approved?
Cause it's bs and has even been warned by the Church to be wary of Garabandal.
Why Catholics are chasing unapproved apparitions? I'll never know
Michael solid guy....can you all address the fact that one of the seers does not partake in promoting or even standing by her experiences and lives not far away in Asturias...she doesn't reject it all i believe and is ambivalent , neither does she appear to be motivated to be an apostle for the messages.... strangely?
Very interesting. I'd like to hear about Our Lady of Guadalupe too.
He is trying to see the Words.
Malachi started to speak about John as thr rolypoly pope!!he had no time for his after that remark about Fatima. Its spoken on the Art Bell tapes.
Why is sit that Garabandal has not yet been approved? I'm do not intend to be contrary, but it's
something to wonder about.
Why is it that the third secret wasn't released in 1960 and probably still isn't fully?
Becasue Conchita gave Pope Paul VI the date of the future Miracle, and it has not come to fruition yet ! When the Miracle day happens ,it will confirm the validity of the apparitions.
@@Frank91815 Because the terrifying story of the "end times' the Vatican thought would be too much for the average Catholic to handle. Our Blessed Mother made it very clear at Garabandal that our actions will have consequences in the future, if we don't repent.
The church is running scared and Garabandal hits right between the eyes. It took years for Fatima and Akita among numerous apparitions for the Church to officially recognize these apparitions. That's why I couldn't give a rats hind end if the Vatican approves this or not. Padre Pio KNEW the truth and I personally feel he was FAR more holy than the last 3 popes in Rome. He was entrusted with a locution from the Blessed Mother...don't think any several popes can claim that. Think on that very carefully...she revealed herself to him...not the pope. Ask yourself why?
Around my speech. I can speak but only when Our Lady allows.
This implies that John XXIII acted in a rather non-saintly way .
I've been searching for the information on the five mysteries of Fatima Padre Pio passed on to the seers but can find no information. I know one you mentioned was The mystery of the appearance of the Blessed Virgin in the town named Fatima; another was the mystery of the significance of the name the Cova de Iria. Could you please tell me the others?
Thank you
I've known and BELIEVED in Garabandal for YEARS. You want to blow your mind? READ THE REVELATIONS OF OUR LADY OF GOOD SUCCESS IN QUITO, ECUADOR.
Blessings, gratitude! Let us bear in mind that the last advocation of Our Lady that the children saw in Fatima was Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, Who waved goodbye and said to them something like '...until St. Sebastian of Spain...' And I have a feeling It could well be Garabandal the place described in the Fatima secret (the Pope leading, going up a hill...); as he may arrange a visit/pilgrimage there when the Warning, Miracle happen, he sees it wherever he is, a sign is left. Also, it could well be during a visit to Fatima itself! Only God knows! There are other terrains where the secret could happen, even though I am inclined towards Garabandal, connected and/or seems like it is a continuation of Fatima, in my humble opinion. Let us pray fervently, keep the Sacraments up to date, be in a state of grace, wear the brown Scapular, pray the Holy Rosary, be good as Our Lady said. God forgive, sanctify, bless, save us all. In Jesus' Name we humbly, gratefully pray, Loving Father.
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Mary McClavey
How come the Orthodox church manage to maintain their traditional liturgy in spite of living right within the Soviet Union and subsequently Russia?
By struggling with the forces of modernism and the firmness of the pious laity to observe the Faith at a price to be paid
Glenn, Maria Saraco, , what about 4 Pope what about Sinod,what about trip to Moscow,what about a day od Miracke.what about Chonchita wisit Vatikan 2 time,what about,she say a day od miracle to Pope...
We owe Our Precious Lucy to find out what happened to her.
Aquita Japan …..
Akita
31:17 This is what I too, after much research, study & prayer, have come to the conclusion of. I believe this is exactly what the true sec was referring to.
Quito, Ecuador, Our Lady of Buen Sucesso 400 years before mentions many of the same points. Ecuador & much of Latin America was also later subsumed by atheistic mr×sm with the CC being under consistent persecution.
Rome's lack of obedience to Our Lady & ultimately Christ, loss of belief in the Supernatural has sacrificed Sacred Tradition, Sacred Heritage, two millennia worth upon the altar of atheistic mr×sm [which IS a religion]. Tragic.
30:15 Oct 11 was also chosen as "National Coming Out Day".
The church at Garabandal is it the Novis Order?
I need an audio of the Rosary to help me concentrate, I discovered that some of those available are not well done any more.
TH-cam has a rosary led by Bsp. Sheen with beautiful reflections st each mystery. Praying the Flame if Live rosary grants extra graces
I like to pray Rosary with Journey Deeper on TH-cam. It is slow and calm and with many more prayers and Novenas 🙏
Attend only the Latin (Gregorian Mass) where the Blessed Sacrament is respected. No more communion in the hand.
Smoothest wrll spoken low intensify interview ever.. Studied all this for years. There are some tiny tidbits of new info but on target with main body of information. Personally figured out years ago that Garabandsl is directly linked to Fatima. I also think Medjugorie is directly linked
And will fully revel Fatima and Garabandal in combinsidence .
From Iowa
How disappointing - to interrupt the interview to address a comment. Very poor decision!
The local bishop of Santander has always condemned it as does the current local bishop.
The alleged apparitions at Garabandal have not been approved by the Catholic Church, and have not been established as supernatural.
Extract from a Letter of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to His Excellency José Vilaplana, bishop of Santander:
28 November 1992
'...Therefore, this dicastery suggests to you that, if you deem it necessary, you publish a declaration in which you reaffirm the non constat of the supernatural nature of the apparitions in question, adopting as your own the unanimous positions of the preceding Ordinaries of that diocese...
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger.
Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.'
This is incorrect. The status is and has always been "non constat de supernaturalite" That is the "middle" status of the 3 possible statuses for an alleged apparition up until a week ago (a new classification system for apparitions was issued by the Vatican on May 17 2024. Perhaps Garabandal will be re-classified but for the moment it remains non-constat). Up until now if you requested a letter from the diocese of Santander that's what it said. It's worth noting that many apparitions started off as Non Constat until sufficient proof emerged to declare it "Constat de supernaturalite". For the sake of completeness "condemned" would correspond to "Constat de non supernaturalite" an example of this is Bay Side New York.
False! You have been misinformed. The one, the only and still current official position of the Catholic Church is "non constat de supernaturalitate."
The devil is a modernist.
The devil is a schismatic also and hates hierarchy
The notion that Vatican Ii cannot be questioned. How can that square with the idea that Vatican Ii was not going to present any dogma.i don't understand why you don't the rejection of the message of Garabandal and the four girls were treated horriibly by several bishops of Santander, one after another. There is nothing in the message of Garabadal contrary in any way contrary to Catholic teaching. Garabandal happened during Vatican II. The rejection of the Garabandal message was very similar to that of Vatican II. Also this council was extremely optimistic, so bishops were not willing to accept a message about priests, bishops and cardinals would mislead the faithful. So, the message of Garabandal was squashed. A commision was established. Part of it was a psychiatric who was an aethist who never even met the girls..
If you were going to talk about Garabadal, why did you said alimost nothing about the messages iof Garabandal and the way the girls were treated. There are two very interesting documentals about Garabandal . Why don't you dubbb them iinto English?
Garabandal is not approved. Nothing supernatural happened per the Bishop and Bishops the followed.
The alleged apparitions at Garabandal have not been approved by the Catholic Church, and have not been established as supernatural.
Extract from a Letter of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to His Excellency José Vilaplana, bishop of Santander:
28 November 1992
'...Therefore, this dicastery suggests to you that, if you deem it necessary, you publish a declaration in which you reaffirm the non constat of the supernatural nature of the apparitions in question, adopting as your own the unanimous positions of the preceding Ordinaries of that diocese...
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger.
Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.'
It is therefore blasphemous to declare this apparition to be the Mother of Jesus, and to quote these messages as coming from Our Blessed Lady when the Church has not declared the identity of this apparition.
@@mn17771 This is a non-sequitur. The notion that it is forbidden (much less blasphemous) to promote apparitions which have a status of "non-constat" is nowhere in current Church law. There are currently no prohibitions in place with respect to Garabandal. By the way, while he did not change the "Non Constat" finding of his predecessor, José Vilaplana, bishop of Santander, actually believed in the apparitions himself. He received the visionaries for friendly visits on multiple occasions among them a visit by Mari Loli when he was hospitalized toward the end of his life; he venerated her Crucifix which was kissed by Our Lady during the apparitions. There are photos. Approval won't come until the events prophesied there come to pass.
Not quite. If the Bishops wanted to say that then they would have said "Constat de non Supernaturalite" which means It IS established as not supernatural. The actual finding for Garabandal however is "Non Constat de Supernaturalite" which means "It is not established as Supernatural". The former is condemnation (i.e., it's definitely not supernatural) the latter is a we don't know ( it hasn't been proven) mm17771's excerpt below shows the Non Constat finding. Precision matters.
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I did not say that it was explicitly forbidden to promote apparitions that have not been approved by the Church, however it may be unwise to do so, especially as it gives rise to confusion.
For example, regarding Medjugorje, the apparitions are not approved but the Church has allowed pilgrimages under the following conditions.
In 2019, Alessandro Gisotti, of the Vatican Press Office said that the papal authorization for pilgrimages to Medjugorje must be accompanied by "care to prevent these pilgrimages from being interpreted as an authentication of known events, which still require examination by the Church. Therefore, care must be taken to avoid creating confusion or ambiguity from the doctrinal point of view regarding such pilgrimages. This also concerns pastors of every order and level who intend to go to Medjugorje and celebrate or concelebrate there even in a solemn way."
The issue of blasphemy is a separate matter. Describing any apparition as being Our Blessed Lady and attributing messages as being from Our Lady is wrong when the Church has not established an apparition as being Our Lady. It might be her, but equally it might not. We can't know until the Church gives its approval.
This matter of attributing the identity of Our Blessed Lady to unapproved apparitions is discussed in a video 'Discerning Apparitions - Medjugorje' on the Sensus Fidelium channel on TH-cam.
@@mn17771 If what you're saying is "I think it's imprudent to put faith in this unapproved apparition" then I wouldn't argue at all. That's a prudential judgement each person needs to make and if that's where you landed, well that makes sense. I'm familiar with the Sensus Fidelium video and various others on the topic by Father Ripperger, Wolfe and others. There are risks when it comes to alleged apparitions, the demons have quite a bit of access to our emotions and if one is very given to chasing "experiences" and visions and this sort of thing then it can be dangerous. No question. Where I disagree is when you accuse these people of blasphemy - as that's quite an accusation of material mortal sin. I think it should be understood that Mr. Hottinger and Doctor Moynihan are giving their own private opinions in the context of an apparition which is known to be Non-Constat; they have not claimed any authority to speak for The Church. For that matter even when they speak about the content of the Fatima 3rd Secret it's just their opinion - and that goes for Malachi Martin, Father Gruner and anybody else who on TH-cam who has spoken of the 3rd secret. In the Catholic Church, there are some things we absolutely must believe, there are some things we must not believe and there are some things we are permitted to have an opinion on. To accuse someone of blasphemy for expressing an opinion permitted by the Church is, in a sense, usurpation of the authority of the Church by the accuser.
Garanbandal Medjagorie stay away please 🙏 ENOUGH. These children have been shown and experienced the extraordinary and have gone to live ordinary lives of unbridled passion given their virtue over to the world only to pop out to give messages like (GOD FORGOVE FOR SAYING THIS) Our Blessed Mothet has an identity crisis. To St Bernadette she said my chd I cannot make you happy in this life only in the next. To Maria Conchita make sacrifice and pennance as this is the last warning so she goes to woke California only to marry and not enter religious life and do the only thing a chosen soul can do with this Extraordinary experience......Unbelieveable!
Fidelity to the sacrament of matrimony is a life of "unbridled passion"? Conchita lives in New York not California. Jacinta moved to California with her husband because that's where he worked. As somebody who knows these women, the assertion that they live lives of "unbridled passion" is actually a little bit amusing.
Our Lord did not call any of the girls of Garabandal to the religious life in order to insure that Our Lady's Message was not silenced as it was in the case of Sr. Lucia and the Secret of Fatima. There could be no abuse of the vow of obedience with respect to the girls of Garabandal.
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Amazing that you purport to know the mind and intention of our Lord God Almighty, in addition to declaring the alleged apparition at Garabandal to be Our Blessed Lady, the Mother of Jesus, in advance of any such declaration by the Church, although in this latter contention, you are in perfect harmony with the participants in this, IMHO, blasphemous video.
@@mn17771 Not so. I claim no such ability whatsoever. The comment is based upon the reality of what actually did happen. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@@mn17771 All apparitions start this way i.e, “non constat”. Was it blasphemous to visit Padre Pio and avail oneself of his special gifts while he was still alive and had a “non constat” status? Was it blasphemous to be present at the Cova during the apparitions? (Official Church approval came later). It’s fine and perhaps even prudent to choose to personally be wary and even avoid apparitions still in the “non constat” state but when you declare that people sharing their views to be “blasphemous” it's you who's crossing the line.
He is trying to see the Words.
Malachi started to speak about John as thr rolypoly pope!!he had no time for his after that remark about Fatima. Its spoken on the Art Bell tapes.