Man I remember being so psyched for this video to come out back in the day. We were all so hyped for TBC, and this video immediately starts with this upbeat song that perfectly matches the energy of the expansion. Then we get Otherguy's signature moonwalk, and these random insta pyroblasts because of that busted meta gem... that was the reason I dropped tailoring for jewelcrafting lol. Oh yeah and it also made me try to do solo arenas. Didn't turn out well lol.
Otherguy played mage pvp like it was quake 2+3 deathmatch... with counterstrike style boom headshots thrown in, bloody lovely to watch... really nice situation awareness, and playing the long term fight... miss the old days, but would never return to play any computer game now
This was the most effective way to play a mage early TBC. The chance of nova braking on icelance was really low so you could keep kiting while hitting them with icelance crits. It was nerfed on S2 patch
This video was recorded before season 1. Between the launch of TBC and the start of the first season. That's why everyone is so undergeared. The metagem he used got nerfed before the start of season 1 as well.
The moment I saw him cast a rank 1 frostbolt I got some serious nostalgia. It's the shit like that they keep removing that makes me not want to play anymore.
Apart from the fantasy novel about Raistlin Majere's life (The Soulforged), this is the reason I played a Mage. And elemental build for a while. I eventually settled on pure Arcane for PvP til the rest of my WoW days~ Also this along with Zalgradis PalaPvP3 introduced me to Rise Against
@Zeithri You'd have to see Sorrowhill 7 to see how old elementalists rolled. Before Arc Ex was perma instacast, Evocate and IceBlock were generic mage skills. Elementalist Mages had tons of burst AOE damage for PvP but had really bad mana issues (again, no evocate - pure reliance on mana gems and pots, before they shared cooldowns). I don't think anyone on YT has Sorrowhill7 uploaded, but I think yahoo videos still does.
@Zeithri They've always had Blast Wave, it just lacked the knockback that it has now. Elemental was completely obliterated in tBC (unlike Prep/ADR for Rogues being so ridiculous, and Multi-specced SL Locks pre-Resilience Buffs to DOTs and the SDI coefficients being so fucking ludicrous.) after the nerf to one simple item. The Meta Gem that allowed a POM on ANY spellcast, which is why you saw Pyroblasts being combo'd off of Ice Lances.
@makgirling - I were Elemental in BC. It's something that worked while it was plagued by mana issues, but it worked. Calling everyone he met to be aweful players is just making an excuse.
@ch0biq - I played since Vanilla. I know how Mages were. And since they lacked Flame Nova or whatever it was called again, as far as I know Elemental weren't really used for PvP at all. When then TBC arrived and Elemental became somewhat valid, yes, mana issues. I know that a lot.
what are u saying elemental wasn't good? I used to play an undead mage just like otherguy at because i was inspired by sorrowhill 1 and 2. And during the elemental mage phase (this means iceblock shatter and blastwave spec), I was tearing down popular videomakers in pvp. It wasn't viable, it was OP ;) Crits back then were a big deal, and with this spec u almost get 2 guaranteed crits in a row on instant spells (nova blastwave coldsnap nova fireblast). And you had 2 iceblocks for control.
@makgirling - If you watch alle the Sorrow Hills videos you realise that it aint bad players, the most of the time he is one vs two.. No discussion about, he is the best Mage in PVP until TBC-WoTK and now Cata + Panda-crap!
I dont see any of his videos coming close to Vurtne's skill though. And most enemys are not as good as those i saw on sylvanas :P otherguy plays a bit zergy and tunnelvision, vurtne had control, confidence and seemed to plan and predict moves to outlast fights (sometimes) Both works, the latter one is less relaxing though xD
+MrMekune I agree with some of it, but I also have to disagree a bit as well. If I may quote you; "he plays a more aggressive and thus more risky approach". This is in some sense true, but from my own knowledge and experience, if you do that against the best players, you usually end up at a disadvantage. Not saying Otherguy isn't skilled, and I love him for all the inspiring moments he's given me, but looking at Vurtnes footage I'd say he draws the longer straw here. When it comes to positioning, reactions, countering other players and using his enviroment/trinkets/knowledge of the game to his advantage, and the fact that he fased very over geared opponent makes him way ahead in my book. I might be a thad bit critical, but as I've been playing as a mage on Vanilla private servers for about 7 years or so, I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about :-D That being said though, love the video!
I'm pretty sure I remember Vurtne being mocked on our server for only showing fight he won. He hardly ever wanted to duel and IF he agreed it was in some remote location. The guy was pathetic even if the videos were entertaining.
@MrMekune You didn't need 8% spell hit in PvP in vanilla. You needed 3%(4% for 100%, but you always had 1% chance to get a resist). As a HC mage in vanilla (Marshal and killing everything in PvE apart from Saph and Kel) I can safely say, that Vurtne was the superior mage compared to Otherguy - at least from what they showed in their videos. But Otherguy is old school, he was one of the first, and by far the most popular PvP-video-mage in the early days of vanilla. To me, the "early" Otherguy was more of an inspiration than Vurtne, simply because he came long before and showed - even though riddled with flaws - a lot of the essentials, it took to be succesful as a mage. Otherguy's later movies were largely uninteresting, as he didn't develop his skills very much, but I watched - and still watch - them for nostalgia.
Although this footage is very old, there are a lot of videos proving that there were players who played extremely well even by today's standards. The same cannot be said for this mage as all he seems to know to do, is to run around in circles throwing instants against some of the worst players this game has ever seen.
Man I remember being so psyched for this video to come out back in the day. We were all so hyped for TBC, and this video immediately starts with this upbeat song that perfectly matches the energy of the expansion. Then we get Otherguy's signature moonwalk, and these random insta pyroblasts because of that busted meta gem... that was the reason I dropped tailoring for jewelcrafting lol.
Oh yeah and it also made me try to do solo arenas. Didn't turn out well lol.
Otherguy played mage pvp like it was quake 2+3 deathmatch... with counterstrike style boom headshots thrown in, bloody lovely to watch... really nice situation awareness, and playing the long term fight... miss the old days, but would never return to play any computer game now
God of Mage
Art of Mage
Genesis of Mage
Alpha & Omega of Mage
Home of Scorch
how i miss this guy!!!!! thats one of reasons i played Illidan server for seeing him.
All hail Otherguy
and of course, Vurtne + Grim for making classic/TBC the most exciting wow time ever
I miss the good old times, I miss you all old legend players... Where are you?? :(
This was the most effective way to play a mage early TBC.
The chance of nova braking on icelance was really low so you could keep kiting while hitting them with icelance crits. It was nerfed on S2 patch
that shit was so stupid
This video was recorded before season 1. Between the launch of TBC and the start of the first season. That's why everyone is so undergeared. The metagem he used got nerfed before the start of season 1 as well.
I miss you
The moment I saw him cast a rank 1 frostbolt I got some serious nostalgia. It's the shit like that they keep removing that makes me not want to play anymore.
Apart from the fantasy novel about Raistlin Majere's life (The Soulforged), this is the reason I played a Mage. And elemental build for a while. I eventually settled on pure Arcane for PvP til the rest of my WoW days~
Also this along with Zalgradis PalaPvP3 introduced me to Rise Against
@Zeithri You'd have to see Sorrowhill 7 to see how old elementalists rolled. Before Arc Ex was perma instacast, Evocate and IceBlock were generic mage skills. Elementalist Mages had tons of burst AOE damage for PvP but had really bad mana issues (again, no evocate - pure reliance on mana gems and pots, before they shared cooldowns). I don't think anyone on YT has Sorrowhill7 uploaded, but I think yahoo videos still does.
th-cam.com/video/tQgYro_mQA4/w-d-xo.html&feature=share
Thanks for uploading this to youtube! One of my old favorites.
miss that time
Virtne and this guy are legends
Also, reading comments that are ten years old saying "This is one of the classics" is wild
@Zeithri They've always had Blast Wave, it just lacked the knockback that it has now. Elemental was completely obliterated in tBC (unlike Prep/ADR for Rogues being so ridiculous, and Multi-specced SL Locks pre-Resilience Buffs to DOTs and the SDI coefficients being so fucking ludicrous.) after the nerf to one simple item. The Meta Gem that allowed a POM on ANY spellcast, which is why you saw Pyroblasts being combo'd off of Ice Lances.
thanks for uploading
6:06 "mod landowar" is probably "omg otherguy", haha
Woow is he still alive??? I miss him so much...
'Each other'guy
@makgirling - I were Elemental in BC. It's something that worked while it was plagued by mana issues, but it worked. Calling everyone he met to be aweful players is just making an excuse.
@ch0biq - I played since Vanilla. I know how Mages were. And since they lacked Flame Nova or whatever it was called again, as far as I know Elemental weren't really used for PvP at all. When then TBC arrived and Elemental became somewhat valid, yes, mana issues. I know that a lot.
that was a metagem proc - next cast instant cast iirc
good old times...
Shouts out to you Blaserc.
what are u saying elemental wasn't good? I used to play an undead mage just like otherguy at because i was inspired by sorrowhill 1 and 2. And during the elemental mage phase (this means iceblock shatter and blastwave spec), I was tearing down popular videomakers in pvp. It wasn't viable, it was OP ;)
Crits back then were a big deal, and with this spec u almost get 2 guaranteed crits in a row on instant spells (nova blastwave coldsnap nova fireblast). And you had 2 iceblocks for control.
@makgirling - If you watch alle the Sorrow Hills videos you realise that it aint bad players, the most of the time he is one vs two..
No discussion about, he is the best Mage in PVP until TBC-WoTK and now Cata + Panda-crap!
'와우는같이해야재밋죵'
First song title? Sounds like Social Distortion
I like using POM Pyro as finisher.
@epxevilknight Thanx so much dude
@makgirling - points to this video clip. . . -
I dont see any of his videos coming close to Vurtne's skill though. And most enemys are not as good as those i saw on sylvanas :P otherguy plays a bit zergy and tunnelvision, vurtne had control, confidence and seemed to plan and predict moves to outlast fights (sometimes) Both works, the latter one is less relaxing though xD
+MrMekune I agree with some of it, but I also have to disagree a bit as well. If I may quote you; "he plays a more aggressive and thus more risky approach". This is in some sense true, but from my own knowledge and experience, if you do that against the best players, you usually end up at a disadvantage. Not saying Otherguy isn't skilled, and I love him for all the inspiring moments he's given me, but looking at Vurtnes footage I'd say he draws the longer straw here. When it comes to positioning, reactions, countering other players and using his enviroment/trinkets/knowledge of the game to his advantage, and the fact that he fased very over geared opponent makes him way ahead in my book.
I might be a thad bit critical, but as I've been playing as a mage on Vanilla private servers for about 7 years or so, I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about :-D
That being said though, love the video!
I'm pretty sure I remember Vurtne being mocked on our server for only showing fight he won. He hardly ever wanted to duel and IF he agreed it was in some remote location. The guy was pathetic even if the videos were entertaining.
@MrMekune You didn't need 8% spell hit in PvP in vanilla. You needed 3%(4% for 100%, but you always had 1% chance to get a resist).
As a HC mage in vanilla (Marshal and killing everything in PvE apart from Saph and Kel) I can safely say, that Vurtne was the superior mage compared to Otherguy - at least from what they showed in their videos. But Otherguy is old school, he was one of the first, and by far the most popular PvP-video-mage in the early days of vanilla.
To me, the "early" Otherguy was more of an inspiration than Vurtne, simply because he came long before and showed - even though riddled with flaws - a lot of the essentials, it took to be succesful as a mage. Otherguy's later movies were largely uninteresting, as he didn't develop his skills very much, but I watched - and still watch - them for nostalgia.
4:24 wow
Although this footage is very old, there are a lot of videos proving that there were players who played extremely well even by today's standards. The same cannot be said for this mage as all he seems to know to do, is to run around in circles throwing instants against some of the worst players this game has ever seen.