Great QB' s all have quick feet and a quick release. Maye has both , next quick process the field. Seeing is believing on that one. He's big ,strong , intelligent, great arm can't wait to see him start.
Would love to see the line get healthy and a couple of games to build some true cohesion. Also to truly set him up for success is getting KB back and in game shape! Giving him a 3/4 option that can get open would set him up for success!
Breer started losing me when he started acting like they've been playing well, just one bad game against a great team. Kraft shill? Could be. They looked fine against thte 0-3 Bengals that always start badly. They were not impressive against the Seahawks. The offense looked very conservative and afraid and the defense did nothing to help win. The Seahawks completely controlled the game at the end. The Pats against the Jets looked about as bad as any team can look in a game. The trend is very bad. If they don't look better, coaches and gms need to be fired.
That's refreshing to hear. But I would still hesitate to put him before any of the injured O-Linemen comeback. Maye clearly is the best option just for his athleticism. However, this season is about building a new culture and developing young guys, not trying to make the playoffs.
@@SmellyCheeseBro I think he can make this OL a bit better with his running threat. There will be a lot more containment from the DEs instead of straight rushes all the time. Washington has a bad OT situation too and Daniels rushing is making them way better than they should be.
Hey everyone the goal here in 2024 isn’t to see Drake play (risking injury with THIS O-Line) and winning 6-7 games and missing out on the best Left Tackle in the draft. Everything the front office has done (signing core players for 2-3 years, trading Judon, taking Maye and WRs when no more good LTs were available at pick 34) is because they WANT a top 3 pick. Patience people.
I highly doubt that is their master plan in any way shape or form. I believe they have no clue what they're doing and just throwing darts at the wall. Hopefully Maye is really good as he looks the part. If there is enough pressure on Kraft then maybe he will spend a few bucks and hire a real gm, a real coach and real coordinators. The Chiefs have a very good gm. The Chiefs have an offensive genius as head coach and coordinator. The Chiefs have a great defensive coordinator. The Pats have a bunch of first year clowns.
Loser talk. Loser franchises are okay losing games. Loser fans are okay losing games. Dont be a loser. You can draft quality talent anywhere. Serious loser vibes floating around foxboro.
At this point just be a falcons fan. We're still trying to win games, you have a bunch of guys on defense that would disagree with you. These guys are still trying to win games and Drake Maye gives them the best chance to win.
After the niners to be honest drake maye could play the rest of the season, seeing the status of the rest of the NFL I don’t see why not, the bills is the only team that will be a challenger
I still think it’s funny we fired a football genius the best coach of all time and bob kraft replaced him with a linebacker with no coaching experience whatsoever.
If the pats figure out the offensive line you going to drake maye under center. I know maye is not josh allen but he has the tools to be a josh allen. Mobility qb can kill you.
Anyone looks good in practice but they want him to be ready so bad because he is a first round pick. We haven't had success with early round QB's in years.
Work him in, just like practice. I'm not sure on the backup rules, if you can rotate. The goal is to get him to full time status. Jacoby knows it. He's a good guy. He's taking hits. He could use a break sometimes. If he has a couple three and outs in a row, put the kid in. This year is about experience. Start ramping it up.
The line once healthy and give them a couple games to play together and get some cohesion! Also get KB back and in shape would be key! They need a 3/4 option in the passing game. That would set him up for success!
the o-line isnt getting any better. no one is coming to save the day. just play maye and scheme the play calling to get the ball out quickly. that is the only option and the longer we wait the worse the teams morale will be.
He's a football player for crying out loud. He's gonna get hit stop with the soft approach. The Commanders have a worse rated OL and JD is fine. My God people
@@michaelmonette7256 That’s actually not true. The Commanders signed 3 interior offensive linemen during the offseason all starting, and drafted a kid who is starting at LT. They were ranked 27th to start the season and are now ranked 22nd! The Pats started the season ranked 32, and they’re still 32nd!
@@michaelmonette7256 dude Jacoby has been hit 30 times in 3 games! That's atrocious for a professional team. And beyond Maye getting physically hurt, I am worried what sustained hits is going to do to his game! If the kid is constantly looking over his shoulder it is going to create bad habits that he will have to work twice as hard to overcome.
You have to rebuild the o-line around DM-10. It can’t be the other way around. If Jacoby Brissett, who is Brian Hoyer 2.0, gives us another yawner on Sunday, you have to play Maye going forward. The fans would go nuts if the Patriots don’t.
How many guys could CARRY a team right out of the gate? You have to support the guy a lot at first! I am excited about Drake, but let's be patient. This is the question I've had, do we have scouts and front office types that can evaluate OL talent and WR talent? We've been in rebuild mode for about 5 drafts. Shouldn't we have atleast one big/tough/fast WR? We used to get a lot of OL guys in the mid to late rounds, where are those guys? It seems like the front office survived the purge, but should they have?
We were so fortunate to get Drake. I said before the Draft, if Chicago is smart, they will take Drake or Jaden because both of them will be much better than Caleb. They went with the hype though and got the Johnny Menzel 2.0.
I genuinely do not understand everyones obsession with wanting to start him. Apparently, everyone online and social knows something that a professional headcoach doesn't.
Mac Jones was a certified practice hero. This isn't the same thing. If it was the same then maye would have been the week 1 starter like jones was. They are being careful
@@FantasySportsZen If you can't tell the difference between Mac Jones and Drake Maye then there is no reason for you to be watching football. You're wasting your time.
Where were these brilliant ideas before the season if the Pats won against Seattle and then lost to Jets for a 2-1 record this conversation isn’t needed
o line isnt as bad as it seems when a qb holds on to the ball for 4 plus sec a snap hes gunaa get hit we need a qb that can throw with a quick release and has vison brissett doesnt have either of those things . start maye and the o loine will actually look better then it has
It's also not as bad when you realize the Pats couldn't handle the Jets blitz with 5 and 6 rushers. The coaching is a concern. The team has to be trained well enough to handle a blitz. Is Brissett not realizing a blitz is coming? Is it the entire offense?
Caleb just threw for over 360 and two tds in his third pro game. Hes the only rookie qb to do this and one of ten qbs total all year who has thrown for over 300. I think his long term prospects are looking just fine.
There is no evidence that there is a linear 1 qb per draft. There are drafts with none and then drafts with multiple. You can only look at each qb on his own. What other qbs make no difference. Just sayin'.
Based on WHAT? His first pass in an actual game he almost threw an interception into double coverage. I mean he MAYE be the real thing, but the point is, who knows? To say you have any evidence he could be based on 8 passes against real competition is dumb
They literally said his teammates are getting really impressed by what he’s doing in practice .. he’s getting a 30% with first team and he’s on scout team.. whatever he doing in these practices are wowing the team
@@TheLMU123456 1) What else are they gonna say? "Hey, he really sucks out there?". They have every incentive to gas him up. And again, if they're being wowed by what he's doing in practice.....so what? It's...practice. Car dealerships around the midwest are filled with college qbs who wowed some teams during practice. I bet Ryan Leaf wowed his teammates too
@@BaronVonMunch Yeah and that's my point. Calling him "the real deal" based on practice is dumb AF. Pats fans know their team is basically the worst in the league and want to hold out some hope they found the next franchise QB. Maybe he is, but pump the brakes since it's...practice
I don’t wanna hear how good a QB is in practice. The Patriots should have, traded the 3rd pick to the Giants, drafted Malik Nabers, and used the haul they received to draft a QB like Cam Ward, and fix the oline…But hindsight is 20/20
keep him in bubble wrap and then at the end of the year let him get some garbage games in and start the season next season that's my opinion OL still won't be that good next year but he'll be more prepared to handle it with a couple games under his belt at the end of the year this year week 13 vs Indy would be a good game to drop him in especially if the season is already an overall L just how I feel about it
Jonathan Kraft has learned to buy the media. If the kid was any good he would be playing. I don't want to hear the nonsense about, "starting a rookie will hurt his development". That is not why teams sit rookies. They sit them because rookies are going to make the mistakes that lose games. This team is going to lose most games anyway. He is not playing because they are trying to hide him. They don't want to expose that they wasted a high draft pick. Holding off for as long as they can so that the stadium isn't empty this year. Boston sports media is pathetic
Who cares??? They're going 6-11 anyways. Until they fix the offensive unit as a whole, it doesn't matter who the QB is. Not getting good players in Taxachusetts like Belichick said 😂
The delusion that Belichick put out there about 'bargains' while exercising off-putting negotiation tactics was was born in a time where the teams held the lion's share of leverage over the players. As time went on, it became more onerous with the Patriots. When times changed and free agency became more nuanced and expensive, Belichick kept his same philosophy and it was all papered over to work because he had #12 holding it all together. When #12 was gone, the illusion disappeared and the fans found out that the emperor had no clothes all along. In this new era, you have to pay in order to be competitive and do so in a manner that is in line with what the player would receive elsewhere without Massachusetts' millionaire tax. Yes, it means the team must pony up more on it's face. However, the NFL salary cap is all about funny money and guarantees over the first 3 years of a contract. Belichick is still blowing smoke up people's back end.
He might be.....but he was only in the game vs the Jets for a few plays & didn't do anything extraordinary. You cannot possibly come to this conclusion from watching him on those handful of plays. Stop pretending like you know something....only time will tell.
Great QB' s all have quick feet and a quick release. Maye has both , next quick process the field. Seeing is believing on that one. He's big ,strong , intelligent, great arm can't wait to see him start.
Would love to see the line get healthy and a couple of games to build some true cohesion. Also to truly set him up for success is getting KB back and in game shape! Giving him a 3/4 option that can get open would set him up for success!
Next year the pats just need to get him a lt.
The media suddenly making the rounds to talk about how “Great Maye looks in practice” should tell you he’s starting extremely soon imo
Breer started losing me when he started acting like they've been playing well, just one bad game against a great team. Kraft shill? Could be. They looked fine against thte 0-3 Bengals that always start badly. They were not impressive against the Seahawks. The offense looked very conservative and afraid and the defense did nothing to help win. The Seahawks completely controlled the game at the end. The Pats against the Jets looked about as bad as any team can look in a game. The trend is very bad. If they don't look better, coaches and gms need to be fired.
I think he's just being realistic about the personnel. He's also not one for drama or hot takes so tends to play stuff down a bit @@BaronVonMunch
He’s a bit of a politician.
It doesn't mean anything, it's just a guy with no qualifications whatsoever making nonsense up, you got a 50 50 shot right
I don’t care how much he improved. If your o line is not blocking it means nothing
Sit him for the year... let him see what is to come... take the training wheels off in the off-season!
I want to see Maye play an entire game with his plays and throws and see what you got
That's refreshing to hear.
But I would still hesitate to put him before any of the injured O-Linemen comeback.
Maye clearly is the best option just for his athleticism. However, this season is about building a new culture and developing young guys, not trying to make the playoffs.
Agree fully and I don't think they should put him in behind this O-line healthy either
@@SmellyCheeseBro I think he can make this OL a bit better with his running threat. There will be a lot more containment from the DEs instead of straight rushes all the time. Washington has a bad OT situation too and Daniels rushing is making them way better than they should be.
Hey everyone the goal here in 2024 isn’t to see Drake play (risking injury with THIS O-Line) and winning 6-7 games and missing out on the best Left Tackle in the draft. Everything the front office has done (signing core players for 2-3 years, trading Judon, taking Maye and WRs when no more good LTs were available at pick 34) is because they WANT a top 3 pick. Patience people.
Couldn't have said it any better
I highly doubt that is their master plan in any way shape or form. I believe they have no clue what they're doing and just throwing darts at the wall. Hopefully Maye is really good as he looks the part. If there is enough pressure on Kraft then maybe he will spend a few bucks and hire a real gm, a real coach and real coordinators.
The Chiefs have a very good gm.
The Chiefs have an offensive genius as head coach and coordinator.
The Chiefs have a great defensive coordinator.
The Pats have a bunch of first year clowns.
no we want a super bowl every season even if it is unlikey thats always the goal
Loser talk. Loser franchises are okay losing games. Loser fans are okay losing games. Dont be a loser. You can draft quality talent anywhere. Serious loser vibes floating around foxboro.
At this point just be a falcons fan. We're still trying to win games, you have a bunch of guys on defense that would disagree with you. These guys are still trying to win games and Drake Maye gives them the best chance to win.
Get the kid an o line and some weapons on offense! Case in point Purdy.💯
This stuff is funny. Trust me, i swear, he's sooooo gooood. 😂
Would u rather them say he’s ass like wat do u want.
@@GummyBrah they have no idea either way. They don’t hit in practice and his Oline is garbage. Brady would get killed lol
The fact that this coaching staff has UNC plays speaks VOLUMES to how well we’re developing Drake
Week 5 or 6 we gotta unveil the drake 😎
Start Drake against Chicago for his first game. That makes perfect sense.
After the niners to be honest drake maye could play the rest of the season, seeing the status of the rest of the NFL I don’t see why not, the bills is the only team that will be a challenger
I don’t know how else to say this. The line leaks like a house built in Boston circa 1789. Do we wanna keep him dry? Put him in a house post 2020
I still think it’s funny we fired a football genius the best coach of all time and bob kraft replaced him with a linebacker with no coaching experience whatsoever.
Babooshka Krafty is a schmuck
What are you talking about? Mayo has been the linebackers coach and then defensive coordinator ever since Flores left?
@@MBPJason yeah wheres the coaching experience? He played linebacker, played linebacker mentor, then taught linebackers how to call the defense lmfao.
@@moon_jesus4k477 so none of the years coaching one of the top defenses in league count as experience? Dog you weird for that answer
@@MBPJason the linebackers have sucked since hightower lol.
If the pats figure out the offensive line you going to drake maye under center. I know maye is not josh allen but he has the tools to be a josh allen. Mobility qb can kill you.
Anyone looks good in practice but they want him to be ready so bad because he is a first round pick. We haven't had success with early round QB's in years.
Work him in, just like practice. I'm not sure on the backup rules, if you can rotate.
The goal is to get him to full time status. Jacoby knows it. He's a good guy. He's taking hits. He could use a break sometimes. If he has a couple three and outs in a row, put the kid in. This year is about experience.
Start ramping it up.
Drake is definitely eye candy 🍬 🤣
Just like ur momma
maye, should not start at all whats so ever, until the rest of the team decides to show up
I just fear that playing him before that O-Line improves is going to get him hurt.
The line once healthy and give them a couple games to play together and get some cohesion! Also get KB back and in shape would be key! They need a 3/4 option in the passing game. That would set him up for success!
the o-line isnt getting any better. no one is coming to save the day. just play maye and scheme the play calling to get the ball out quickly. that is the only option and the longer we wait the worse the teams morale will be.
He's a football player for crying out loud. He's gonna get hit stop with the soft approach. The Commanders have a worse rated OL and JD is fine. My God people
@@michaelmonette7256 That’s actually not true. The Commanders signed 3 interior offensive linemen during the offseason all starting, and drafted a kid who is starting at LT. They were ranked 27th to start the season and are now ranked 22nd! The Pats started the season ranked 32, and they’re still 32nd!
@@michaelmonette7256 dude Jacoby has been hit 30 times in 3 games! That's atrocious for a professional team. And beyond Maye getting physically hurt, I am worried what sustained hits is going to do to his game! If the kid is constantly looking over his shoulder it is going to create bad habits that he will have to work twice as hard to overcome.
hey lets bring back mac jones as the emergency QB behind Brisette
You have to rebuild the o-line around DM-10. It can’t be the other way around. If Jacoby Brissett, who is Brian Hoyer 2.0, gives us another yawner on Sunday, you have to play Maye going forward. The fans would go nuts if the Patriots don’t.
@NightowlProductionsGroup no you don't. You might be dumb as F but the rest of us know the oline is the worst in 30 years or more.
How many guys could CARRY a team right out of the gate? You have to support the guy a lot at first! I am excited about Drake, but let's be patient. This is the question I've had, do we have scouts and front office types that can evaluate OL talent and WR talent? We've been in rebuild mode for about 5 drafts. Shouldn't we have atleast one big/tough/fast WR? We used to get a lot of OL guys in the mid to late rounds, where are those guys? It seems like the front office survived the purge, but should they have?
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great post
We were so fortunate to get Drake. I said before the Draft, if Chicago is smart, they will take Drake or Jaden because both of them will be much better than Caleb. They went with the hype though and got the Johnny Menzel 2.0.
😂😂😂😂 Drake Maye is on the worst team and not starting!!! Patriots are awful now and will be for at least 3 years.
Would you Rather;
1) Listen to Albert Breer say 'Right?' every other sentence.
2) Listen to Zo mock Millikan every time he says anything.
I genuinely do not understand everyones obsession with wanting to start him. Apparently, everyone online and social knows something that a professional headcoach doesn't.
I’m not falling for this again;yall said the same thing about Mac Jones.
Mac Jones was a certified practice hero. This isn't the same thing. If it was the same then maye would have been the week 1 starter like jones was. They are being careful
Yup. And no matter what they'll say it again next time in 2-3 years also. 😂
Nobody ever said Mac was great , we all knew he’s a very limited QB.
Mac Jones sucked which is obvious to anyone with a brain. What world do you live in? Have you ever watched football before?
@@FantasySportsZen If you can't tell the difference between Mac Jones and Drake Maye then there is no reason for you to be watching football. You're wasting your time.
What is all this smoke 💨
Tank the year, draft the best LT next year. After that, #1 WR.
Live bullets live ppl rushing the QB getting home in 3 secs ..Come on guys it dosent matter who is behind center
Only a fool would start a rookie with great potential like him with the worst line since the early nineties.
Where were these brilliant ideas before the season if the Pats won against Seattle and then lost to Jets for a 2-1 record this conversation isn’t needed
He has an offensive line in Washington
Mayo...just let him damn play!!!
Mayo wants him to play lol. It's avp and wolf
o line isnt as bad as it seems when a qb holds on to the ball for 4 plus sec a snap hes gunaa get hit we need a qb that can throw with a quick release and has vison brissett doesnt have either of those things . start maye and the o loine will actually look better then it has
It's also not as bad when you realize the Pats couldn't handle the Jets blitz with 5 and 6 rushers. The coaching is a concern. The team has to be trained well enough to handle a blitz. Is Brissett not realizing a blitz is coming? Is it the entire offense?
Why sit the kid.. find out if he’s worth developing.. find out if he can play
WE ALREADY KNOW THIS‼️ "MAYE IS THE WAY, AND EVERYONE IS GONNA FIND OUT HOW GREAT HE CAN PLAY"‼️🏈💯🚀🎯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 #TOUCHDOWN #PATRIOTS
This one needs some work my friend lol stay in the lab
Wasn't Caleb a real deal
Wasn't Trevor a real deal
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no way you’re already saying caleb is a bust after 3 weeks 😂
@@patsfan4929*Seriously…not like that dude is getting swamped almost every play because the Bears OLine absolutely STINKS.*
Caleb just threw for over 360 and two tds in his third pro game. Hes the only rookie qb to do this and one of ten qbs total all year who has thrown for over 300. I think his long term prospects are looking just fine.
@@JonStark117Just like the Pats Oline is garbage. Don’t play Maye this year!
They do not hit in practice.
Typically, there's at most 1 good qb per class. Just sayin.
2020 says hello
There is no evidence that there is a linear 1 qb per draft. There are drafts with none and then drafts with multiple. You can only look at each qb on his own. What other qbs make no difference.
Just sayin'.
Sitting a 4th overall pick for a year y'all sound lame. Put him out there he can't be worse than bo nix take a chance don't be soft this is football
Based on WHAT? His first pass in an actual game he almost threw an interception into double coverage. I mean he MAYE be the real thing, but the point is, who knows? To say you have any evidence he could be based on 8 passes against real competition is dumb
They literally said his teammates are getting really impressed by what he’s doing in practice .. he’s getting a 30% with first team and he’s on scout team.. whatever he doing in these practices are wowing the team
If you listen they are all talking about practice which they do all the time. Man, you aren't too bright are you?
@@TheLMU123456 1) What else are they gonna say? "Hey, he really sucks out there?". They have every incentive to gas him up. And again, if they're being wowed by what he's doing in practice.....so what? It's...practice. Car dealerships around the midwest are filled with college qbs who wowed some teams during practice. I bet Ryan Leaf wowed his teammates too
@@BaronVonMunch Yeah and that's my point. Calling him "the real deal" based on practice is dumb AF. Pats fans know their team is basically the worst in the league and want to hold out some hope they found the next franchise QB. Maybe he is, but pump the brakes since it's...practice
@@Eggy79 So who do you think gives a better chance to win games ?
I don’t wanna hear how good a QB is in practice. The Patriots should have, traded the 3rd pick to the Giants, drafted Malik Nabers, and used the haul they received to draft a QB like Cam Ward, and fix the oline…But hindsight is 20/20
Imagine thinking this guy knows anything about QBs 😂
Guaranteed Maye is on the IL in 4 weeks...with this OL/WR group/garbage.
They said the same thing about Mac. Let him sit all year to watch and learn. Everybody needs to chill out.
But, is Albert Breer legit?
Looking like he's on the bench ?? We haven't seen shit yet, wym looking like the real deal? lol
Nah
keep him in bubble wrap and then at the end of the year let him get some garbage games in and start the season next season that's my opinion OL still won't be that good next year but he'll be more prepared to handle it with a couple games under his belt at the end of the year this year week 13 vs Indy would be a good game to drop him in especially if the season is already an overall L just how I feel about it
Keep snorting that hopium Pats fans
Why wouldn't they? Keep renting the Patriots free space to live in your head, plenty of room it seems.
U as lame as the real one? 😂 nice name. Lmao.
Gave us the best 20 years in sports history and space in your head rent free.....let's go Pats
New England fans soft af
Leave the real deal on the sidelines holding a clipboard until we get this O line disaster figured out.
Brisset is garbage takes to many sacks playe drake maye avp get the ball out quick is all we got to do
Let it go he ain’t starting……
The real deal at practice 😂 incoming Will Levis no2
They do seem similar. Daniel Jones is a decent comp too.
Jonathan Kraft has learned to buy the media. If the kid was any good he would be playing. I don't want to hear the nonsense about, "starting a rookie will hurt his development". That is not why teams sit rookies. They sit them because rookies are going to make the mistakes that lose games. This team is going to lose most games anyway. He is not playing because they are trying to hide him. They don't want to expose that they wasted a high draft pick. Holding off for as long as they can so that the stadium isn't empty this year. Boston sports media is pathetic
Who cares??? They're going 6-11 anyways. Until they fix the offensive unit as a whole, it doesn't matter who the QB is. Not getting good players in Taxachusetts like Belichick said 😂
The delusion that Belichick put out there about 'bargains' while exercising off-putting negotiation tactics was was born in a time where the teams held the lion's share of leverage over the players. As time went on, it became more onerous with the Patriots.
When times changed and free agency became more nuanced and expensive, Belichick kept his same philosophy and it was all papered over to work because he had #12 holding it all together. When #12 was gone, the illusion disappeared and the fans found out that the emperor had no clothes all along.
In this new era, you have to pay in order to be competitive and do so in a manner that is in line with what the player would receive elsewhere without Massachusetts' millionaire tax.
Yes, it means the team must pony up more on it's face. However, the NFL salary cap is all about funny money and guarantees over the first 3 years of a contract.
Belichick is still blowing smoke up people's back end.
Massachusetts is middle of the pack in taxes. It's over stated.
6?!! 😂😂😂
Tool take 😂
Where are they getting 6 wins?
He might be.....but he was only in the game vs the Jets for a few plays & didn't do anything extraordinary. You cannot possibly come to this conclusion from watching him on those handful of plays. Stop pretending like you know something....only time will tell.
lol exactly